Italians will assist in the construction of the Indian frigate 17A

The Italian company Fincantieri, in accordance with the signed agreement, will provide technical assistance to the Indian shipyard Mazagon Docks Limited (MDL, Mumbai) in the construction of the 17A frigate, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the resource Mer et Marine.

Total must be built 7 ships.

“Italians will carry out a detailed study of the frigate’s project, optimize it, and introduce the principle of modularity and integration into it. Training and assistance programs are provided at every stage of the program’s implementation, from design to transmission to the customer, ”the newspaper writes.

In addition, Italian specialists will assist in the modernization of Indian shipyards, "by introducing modern principles and practices in the field of design and construction on them."

length of the ship - 149 m, displacement -.. 6,4 thousand tons According to the resource, the new frigates (a modernized version of 17 project) "will be equipped with eight anti-ship missiles of BrahMos, 32 anti-aircraft missiles vertical launch videos Barak 8, systems of air defense short-range, artillery installation 76 caliber "mm or 127-mm, torpedo tubes, and one or two helicopters."

Comments

[USSR 1971]

For India, it may even be built, but Russia, taking into account the latest miscarriages of France along the Mistrals, needs to rely only on its shipbuilding.

[jjj]

Such a large ship, and in armament a little more powerful than a missile boat. Or this data is linden

[donavi49]

Well, he has 32 Baraka-8, it's like a Redoubt - 90km range, good channel and the probability of defeat.

Plus two helicopters.

Yes, and this is a ship of the far sea zone.

In fact, it is necessary to equal it with 11356 - it is larger, but on the whole more powerful and much more advanced on RTV. On the other hand, twice as many shock missiles, two air defense circuits, etc. But the Indians may not need to overload the ship with weapons, this is also not very good.

If you compare with FREMM (the best heavy frigate today) - then there is almost all parity. Therefore, in vain, the ship is quite good.

[seti]

If this happens then this is bad news for us. We have been building Indian Navy ships for several years now, and this is, as it were, our market, our niche. If the Italians get through there, then we will have to make room. Or suggest something cooler. And the steeper can only be something solid and that not everyone can offer. I mean the export version of the aircraft carrier 23000E "Storm". I wrote an article on this topic on the forum
http://forum.topwar.ru/topic/2509-a-nuzhen-li-nam-avianosets-v-blizhayshem-budus
hhem / To whom it is interesting to read. I’ll add from myself that the arms market is shrinking and competition is growing - you need not just to maintain your positions, but to crowd out competitors on all fronts. I hope nothing shines in pasta in India.

[novobranets]

Quote: seti

I hope nothing shines in pasta in India.

In fact, Italians are strong competitors in the field of shipbuilding.

The ships and ships they make are good.

And to keep this market, you need to try hard.

[APASUS]

Quote: novobranets

In fact, Italians are strong competitors in the field of shipbuilding.

Italian shipbuilders are rednecks and traders, by the way, with the Indians, they are facing each other.
In Italy, there were several high-profile cases of raising prices, not meeting deadlines and their quality is not important. The only thing they can do is interior decoration.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: seti

And the steeper can only be something solid and that not everyone can offer. I mean the export version of the aircraft carrier 23000E "Storm". I wrote an article on this topic on the forum

Well, can we, this is also a question, because we haven't built it for ourselves since 0, on the territory of modern Russia. This "aircraft carrier" cannot even be called a project - there is no documentation. One layout and a great title. It is unlikely that the Indians will get involved.

[mav1971]

Quote: seti

http://forum.topwar.ru/topic/2509-a-nuzhen-li-nam-avianosets-v-blizhayshem-budus

hhem /

As soon as I saw your connection between the steam catapults of the aircraft carrier and the A-100 Premier, I realized that it’s not even worth reading further ...

[Mountain shooter]

What’s oceanic - it’s clear that around India there’s just the ocean. The armament for such a large trough is weak. Maybe I don’t understand something, but like a frigate air defense. Mumbai cover?

[bad]

you can minus .. but the Indians act on the principle - in the hands of others, horseradish is thicker .. they cannot build their own despite any programs "do in india" now they are interested in the Italians .. when we build a "Leader" with a nuclear power plant, remember my word is that there will be bags of money right here ... yes, they buy a lot from us, but you don't need to kiss them in the ass because of this ... we should trade more actively with other countries too ..

[seos]

Yes, but they develop shipyards and shipbuilding ... and collect all the modern technologies ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: bad

.when we build a "Leader" with a nuclear power plant

that's when they build ... then. and now, after TAKR, when the deficiencies and malfunctions were fixed for a long time, (as much as bricks !!! were pouring near the boilers ...) the Indians probably know better whom to turn to ...

[Stirbjorn]

First you need to prepare a project, first and at least lay)

[Vladimir 1964]

“The Italians will conduct a detailed study of the frigate’s project, optimize it, and introduce the principle of modularity and integration into it. Training and assistance programs are provided at every stage of the program, from design to transfer to the customer. ”

Italians have always been good shipbuilders and it is extremely naive to evaluate them as competitors. And the Indians have always sought to expand the range of arms suppliers. And it must be admitted that in terms of "numbers" in the BIUS and other integration systems of weapons, the Italians are ahead of us, whether we like it, colleagues, or not, but unfortunately it is so.

[NGK]

Italians are sometimes called unrecognized geniuses of naval technology! There are plenty of historical examples!

[chunga-changa]

Here's a sensible approach. "Our figures" should also, instead of a stupid purchase of mistrals, with which the "partners" then easily threw us, demand that the French also re-equip the shipyard "to introduce modern principles and practices in the field of design and construction." I think no one would care about the mistral now if they got at least one modern shipyard.