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Project "ZZ". iron Man

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Western analysts call Putin "The Iron Man" (in English, the original hard-man). Such a respectful nickname emerged because of Moscow’s unshakable position: for several months now, the Russian leader has been fighting against IG. Putin’s fight against terrorists fascinates people all over the world. Other analysts point out that against the background of a helpless West, Russia is positioning itself as the heroic stronghold of human civilization. True, Moscow’s high motives are denied: if it is so moral, then why is it doing an arms race?



Putin


As Peter Hann writes in a British newspaper "Express", at the beginning of 2015, many in the UK were outraged by Putin’s behavior, however, the Kremlin’s master seems to be ending this year. He destroys the evil in the face of the "Islamic state", and his actions lead to success.

If at the beginning of the year Putin’s activities in the international arena were negatively evaluated - the Russian president was compared as a character-villain from the Bond series (for example, he was accused of involvement in the poisoning of former spy Alexander Litvinenko), now he seems to be a politician who actually headed the mission militants "IG."

This year began for Putin's deterioration in relations with the West. They were the worst since the days of the Cold War, the journalist believes, since the crisis in Ukraine has spread, and the situation with the Malaysia Airlines board MH17 shot down near Donetsk has complicated it. In addition, the West was upset when the Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov was killed (in February), and he was shot dead "near the Kremlin." World leaders "condemned the murder and asked to conduct a full investigation into the circumstances of death," reminds the journalist.

As a result, seeing the continuing tension and the growth of contradictions, the Russian authorities finally took an anti-Western position. And even the resources of "Wikipedia" and "Fairy liquid" were briefly blocked in Russia.

Not less than three times this year, British fighter jets were raised from a base in Scotland - after Russian military aircraft "encroached on British airspace," writes Peter Hann.

But then "something happened," the correspondent continues. In order to change the international perception of Russian politics, “Putin’s former chief KGB agent made a turn of 180 degrees”.

In the past few months, he has shown himself to be “Iron Man.” His fight against IG, also known as Daesh, has expanded his fans. This happened because in September, he agreed to inflict airstrikes on the positions of jihadists in Syria.

The strikes were effective: Russian planes instantly bombed military facilities and jihadist training centers. In fear of the new Russian bombing, the militants were forced to retreat.

In early December, in just three days, Russia destroyed more than 600 targets "IG".

“During the mission, Putin’s bombers conducted hundreds of sorties in war-torn Syria, which is confirmed by the Russian Ministry of Defense,” writes the journalist.

More 2000 bombs destroyed extremist objects. The Russian military claims that 70 command centers, 21 training camp, six munitions and explosives factories, 43 ammunition depot and 6 oil facilities have been destroyed. And this is only from December 5 to December 8!

And in addition, the Russian Black Hole submarine (Russia's Black Hole submarine), based in the Mediterranean, began attacking Daesh targets with rockets in December.

As Mr. Putin continues his mission today to destroy the IS, his perception in the world is gradually changing.

The journalist recalls that in November the United States (Russia's traditional opponent of the Cold War) announced that V. V. Putin and B. H. Obama had agreed on a political transition and settlement in Syria. The goal of both states is to put an end to the civil war in Syria, which, in fact, led to the emergence and strengthening of the IS.

And therefore, Mr. Putin, a man whom "the West was afraid and hated", is now universally respected, the British author believes.

A somewhat different opinion about Iron Man is expressed in the Investor's Business Daily. According to the editors, Vladimir Putin puts himself in the role of a hero, but rather resembles a hooligan.

From the editorial Investor's Business Daily the reader gets a combined image of Putin: at the same time both a “moral hero” and a bully.

“Russia has repeatedly positioned itself as a heroic stronghold and protector of civilization against the backdrop of a helpless West,” writes the publication. “But if its morality is so high, why does it increase the arms race and take threatening actions against the United States?”

For example, last month, President Vladimir Putin slyly hinted at a development plan for a high-speed unmanned submarine of the Canyon project, capable of delivering nuclear warheads to a range of 6200 miles at a depth of 3280 feet.

The US military experts, having familiarized themselves with the project, said that the Canyon would be invulnerable to interception, able to bypass the American defensive missile shield and is designed to attack ports and coastal cities.

Information about the underwater drone was presented as an “accidental leak” that allowed Russian news agencies to make publications. In fact, this information is supposedly secret. The editors do not believe this: after all, in Russia, Putin controls the media. In fact, the information was a “threat” - another signal to the West about “aggressive” intentions.

Since 2005, in the absence of any real threats, the editorial board continues, Russia has increased its military budget five times, bringing it to 50 billion.

But this is not only Russia's military spending is worrying Americans. According to the publication, there is a "number of threatening actions" of Russia "in relation to the territory of the United States."

Last year, the Russian strategic air force showed its strength off the coast of California: Tu-95 “Bear” bombers were accompanied by American fighters (at least Bill Hertz wrote about it in The Washington Times).

This year, Russian bombers flew over the island of Guam. In addition, the Russians stepped up cyber attacks and espionage. Finally, Moscow took up the increase in the number of its Arctic bases (before 18) and tried to regain its influence in Cuba and, probably, in Venezuela. This is not to mention the fact that Moscow continues to harbor the traitor Snowden, who previously worked in the United States for the National Security Agency.

However, Putin continues to position Russia as a bulwark in the fight against terrorism. He really is fighting the Islamic State, and the Obama administration is only showing "helplessness" and "weakness." At the same time, Putin is successfully promoting "historical Russia's role in protecting Christian minorities in the holy land. ” In Russia itself, Putin is believed to oppose "social disintegration" and support the "spiritual rightness" of the Russian Orthodox Church.

And this is not some kind of distortion of reality, indicates the publication. All that is listed above, there are fragments of "historical heroism of Russia."

However, in Russia, Putin acts "as a petty thug": after all, he is building up military power, trying to resist the West, and also puts pressure on political opponents inside the country. “Putin may think that he is a hero, but he acts like a petty bully,” the publication ironically.

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Western analysts have declared Putin "Iron Man" - the one who worthily led the effective mission to destroy the militants of "IS" in Syria. And, since Putin does not stop beating violent terrorists, his perception in the world is changing, some authors say. Let's say more: Mr. Putin now enjoys "universal respect." At least, the British journalist Peter Hann is sure of that, working, by the way, in that very newspaper, almost 80% of readers of which the other day wished to make Putin the prime minister of Britain.

Recall, as the newspaper wrote recently "Express", 4 from 5 residents of the United Kingdom would prefer to see the leaders of Great Britain as the Russian president, and not at all David Cameron.

As for the editorial staff of Investor's Business Daily, it is strange, when speaking of Russia as a heroic stronghold and defender of civilization “against the background of the helpless West”, immediately calling Putin a “petty hooligan” who “increases military power”. First, no one interfered with the American coalition to truly smash the militants "IG". Livia was instantly bombed out. In Syria, the "helpless" West wanted to become himself. Secondly, it is simply ridiculous to call the United States and NATO, whose bases surrounded Russia, "helpless." Putin has to, willy-nilly, to be a “minor hooligan” in order to give big blows to the hooligans.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 29 December 2015 06: 49 New
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    На мой взгляд если Путин как "Железный человек"поставил бы всех Либералов из правительства "на место" и ему цены не было бы.
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 29 December 2015 06: 53 New
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      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, if Putin would have shown the Iron Will to the Liberals and there would have been no price.


      ВВП удается быть разным. Где надо быть жестким и настойчивым, где надо быть гибким и прагматичным... Главное что не меняется, он всегда умный... Может быть медленно "запрягает", зато ездит быстро...
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 29 December 2015 10: 53 New
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        4 out of 5 residents in the United Kingdom would prefer to see the Russian president in the leaders of Great Britain, and not David Cameron at all

        Do we need a British region ?! laughing
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 29 December 2015 13: 59 New
          +8
          Do we need a British region ?!


          Definitely not needed. In addition, England, when the time comes, will go under water.

          ... speaking of Russia as a heroic stronghold and defender of civilization "against the backdrop of a helpless West", immediately call Putin "a petty hooligan" who "builds up military power."


          Эти западные, впрочем как и некоторые наши, информационные трещотки то подразумевают "Путин - это Россия" и от неё нужно избавиться, чтобы не мешала иным жить , то для них "Путин-хулиган" и сам по себе, а значит тоже подлежит уничтожению, опять же потому что мешает.

          Russia today is a source of meanings, and it is not forgiven for it, just as Soviet Russia was not forgiven for a revolution, but because of it, the relations of labor and capital have fundamentally changed. A new idea for humanity is on its way, and today they spread rot for premonition of this idea - they could not integrate, they began to fear.

          But we didn’t go through that. Let’s pass this test - the temptation of malice. Angry and stupid people get angry because they are afraid of themselves ...
          1. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 29 December 2015 17: 16 New
            +7
            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            A new idea for humanity is on its way, and today they spread rot for premonition of this idea - they could not integrate, they began to fear.

            This is yes, scary! Whether it is feudalism, old-reliable, mixed with the colonial component is just a holiday. And we always come and spoil all raspberries !!!! Barbarians)))
      2. Bespectacled
        Bespectacled 29 December 2015 16: 09 New
        +7
        Quote: SS68SS
        медленно "запрягает", зато ездит быстро...

        In domestic politics, how many more years will harness, what do you think?
        1. vezunchik
          vezunchik 29 December 2015 18: 24 New
          +4
          yes ten years
        2. vezunchik
          vezunchik 29 December 2015 18: 24 New
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          yes ten years
    2. nrex
      nrex 29 December 2015 08: 10 New
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      And which of the liberals, in your opinion, are against Putin's policies? Surnames please list. None. So who are they bothering?
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 29 December 2015 09: 50 New
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        Quote: nrex
        And which of the liberals, in your opinion, are against Putin's policies? Surnames please list. None. So who are they bothering?

        Они не мешают,-они просто ничего не делают, сидя на руководящих должностях. Это называется- "саботаж".
        How is it by the way the May decrees of the President? Already forgot what year. 2012th?
        Но Путин упорно не хочет менять Правительство и всячески его поощряет. "Своих" не сдаем?
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 17: 36 New
          -1
          Whatever it was, the main thing that did not work out was how they did.
          1. AlexW
            AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 29 New
            +1
            К сожалению с нашей невнятной внутренней политикой к этому и идет. Только в России стеклотарой кидаться не будут.Сразу, что потяжелее в ход пойдет.Знаем -проходили. На радость врагам "бунт бессмысленный, кровавый"
        2. AlexW
          AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 23 New
          +1
          Hand over your own in such a difficult period. Yes, what are you? It’s all happening in Ukraine, but in Syria in general. Again, the bourgeoisie are building missile defense in Europe. Not to hand over their own either. Just think of stealing, well, what compensates pensioners.
    3. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 29 December 2015 08: 26 New
      -33
      It would be nice to squeeze the Communists.
      In my deep conviction, Russian society has become very weary, which threatens another great revolution with all the shocks and inevitable losses. Are we ready for another great October one? Will Russia crumble from this to dust ...
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 29 December 2015 08: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        Western analysts have declared Putin "Iron Man"

        В истории нашей страны уже был "железный человек" и он так прямо и звался: Сталин! Ох накаркаете на свою голову, господа империалисты!
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 09: 11 New
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          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          he was so direct and called: Stalin! Oh, crap on your head, gentlemen, imperialists!

          And how long did his empire called the USSR last? And nothing of the kind actually happened to imperialism. For this, cracking with regalia is good, on the one hand, and on the other, well, what's the point.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 29 December 2015 09: 18 New
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            Quote: _Vladislav_
            And how long did his empire called the USSR last?

            "Его империя" как раз при нём и существовала, и то, что в дальнейшем СССР не повезло с руководителями, это не вина Сталина!
            And it’s not for me to tell you what a headache Stalin was for the West.
            1. Mr. Pip
              Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 09: 40 New
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              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              It’s not Stalin’s fault!

              But be that as it may, his own people killed his own country - Stalin liked how Khrushch danced hopak on corporate parties - they danced request
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 10: 04 New
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                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                what is the future of the USSR bad luck

                It was not lucky for me when I went to the car in the morning and her tire went flat.
                And what happened to the USSR is a disaster of the 20th century. And the great tragedy of our people.

                And here's an interesting question, who is to blame?
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 29 December 2015 11: 36 New
                  +2
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  And here's an interesting question, who is to blame?

                  Well, not Stalin!
                  1. _Vladislav_
                    _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 11: 59 New
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                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    Well, not Stalin!

                    Well, Stalin is not Stalin. And the result in the end was one.
                    We love to talk like it was good before, and how bad now.
                    Well, I have a question. How did everyone prosralize, and who is to blame?

                    They blame, well, there, EBN, Chubais, there are still a number of people there. Well, my dears, you yourself gave them power.
                    And the fact that mass privatization took place later is the result of how they disposed of this power. Arranged by the given power.

                    The USSR is good, the USSR is good. Well, then what the hell is being asked. Che prevented standing up for power.
                    And the fact that the elite was bored (as they try to keep silent about it) is of no particular interest to anyone. The Soviet elite is knocked down - how do you? fine? But at the same time, the EBN is a scoundrel.

                    The Communists had a chance in 1996 to take everything into their own hands, again. But no, they preferred to merge the votes to the same EBNu, they were afraid.
                    1. SRC P-15
                      SRC P-15 29 December 2015 12: 24 New
                      +5
                      Quote: _Vladislav_
                      Well, I have a question. How did everyone prosralize, and who is to blame?

                      Blame Gorbachev with Yeltsin, who brought to this country.
                      The elite that brought these people to power is to blame.
                      We are to blame, the working people, who nurtured this elite, which lulled us with their promises.
                      But to put it in a simple way: WE ARE ALL DIVIDED.
                      1. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 41 New
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                        We are all divorced.
                        That's it! We were called to national happiness. But for some reason, first, Yeltsin with his democratic reforms, now Putin with his liberal partnership ...
                      2. _Vladislav_
                        _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 13: 01 New
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                        Quote: Gardamir
                        But for some reason, first, Yeltsin with his democratic reforms

                        Yeltsin-this is the result of prosere all communists. EBN, like the 90s, are the products of this proser. The glory of the proletariat, with a light stroke of the pen on December 8, 1991, was in the outhouse, and in the public.

                        I would not argue that Yeltsin, someone, somewhere led there, and so on. It was no longer a conduct, but an existence. And this existence was led by Yeltsin.
                        Then the Gshniks decided to put their man in power, which Putin is.

                        To say that Putin is a liberal, a traitor and it is unclear who-is a delusion. The result of his many years of activity you can objectively evaluate only after a while. When it will already be clear for sure - it is not necessary, rightly wrong. But scamming Putin is just the work of those same liberals, talk that Putin allegedly drank everything, ate everything, and stole everything - from Navalny, Nemtsov, Kasyanov, we heard many times.
                      3. Pancho
                        Pancho 29 December 2015 15: 59 New
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                        Quote: _Vladislav_
                        Then the Gshniks decided to put their man in power, which Putin is.

                        Come on?! EBN and Chubais is GBshniki?
                      4. _Vladislav_
                        _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 16: 53 New
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                        Quote: Pancho
                        Come on?! EBN and Chubais is GBshniki?

                        Did they bring Putin to power?

                        The oligarchs then just more than others wanted to remove Putin. On this and built power on the principle of vertical. But in order to carry out such work, a huge administrative (state) resource is needed, which special services have at their disposal.

                        Maybe you do not know but Putin GBshnik. Yes Yes. Revelation is probably for you.
                      5. Pancho
                        Pancho 29 December 2015 23: 05 New
                        +1
                        Well, you give a pancake! You probably recently landed on our planet, so you probably don’t know how it was? Kalugin was also a gbshnik. Serving in the KGB does not automatically mean that a person there who served as an incarnation of a knight without fear and reproach.
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                    2. AlexW
                      AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 41 New
                      +2
                      Gudkov (senior) is also GBshnik
                2. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 28 New
                  +1
                  To say that Putin is a liberal, a traitor and it is unclear who-is a delusion. The result of his many years of activity you can objectively evaluate only after a while
                  The voice of the Kremlin? To begin with, Putin himself does not hesitate to call himself a liberal, he respects Yeltsin respectfully.
                  The result of his many years of activity you can objectively evaluate only after a while
                  And how much time do you give? a hundred years? I already see an increase in retirement age. Destruction of Russian culture by different twinks, pepps and other valentines. Crimea is turned off, and by order of Putin, coal is driven to Kiev. Why Putin can not put Navalny, if supposedly Navalny opposition to him? But the Russians are given real terms, remember, spoiled the air at a concert by Makarevich, put him in prison for a long time and quickly condemned
                3. sa-ag
                  sa-ag 29 December 2015 17: 50 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Why Putin can not put Navalny, if supposedly Navalny opposition to him?

                  Зачем ему сажать такой кадр, когда Навальный проводит при случае работу по дискредитации любого протестного движения - "Не с кем работать будет" (С)
              2. Stanislas
                Stanislas 31 December 2015 08: 41 New
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                Quote: _Vladislav_
                Yeltsin-is the result of proser all communists
                Everything was already pros ** but even earlier. The Soviet leaders did not think of successors, apparently believing that this was a sign of the hated autocracy, that the people themselves would figure it out and choose who they needed. It began with Khrushchev. By the time Gorbachev arrived, the level of corruption in the state, which actually owned everything and everything, was already outrageous. Such as Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze in the highest posts of the power elite - in the Politburo - does this mean anything?
          2. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 13: 06 New
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            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Blame Gorbachev with Yeltsin, who brought to this country.
            The elite that brought these people to power is to blame.
            We are to blame, the working people, who nurtured this elite, which lulled us with their promises.
            But to put it in a simple way: WE ARE ALL DIVIDED.

            Communists came to power on bloody bayonets, titanic efforts for the glory of the revolution.
            And prosrali all easily and naturally. It was not even necessary to force.
            Grobachev, again, only led this procession. And the country - the party and the Soviet government was crawling.
            She won the war, she prosrail country at the end of the century.
          3. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 29 December 2015 13: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            And the country - the party and the Soviet government was crawling.
            She won the war, she prosrail country at the end of the century

            And who was in this party, not the people?
            But is it not the people who won the war, including the non-party people?
            Этот же народ, в большинстве своём, пальцем не пошевелил для защиты страны в "конце столетия".
            So you don’t have to blame everything on the mythical party, the people simply did not rise and that’s it.
          4. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 14: 19 New
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            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And who was in this party, not the people?

            No need to write off the people. The Central Committee of the Communist Party consisted of very specific people, and not the whole people. And under her leadership, the war was won, and under her strict guidance only ... to the country.

            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Этот же народ, в большинстве своём, пальцем не пошевелил для защиты страны в "конце столетия".

            And this respect is already the result of effective Western propaganda, which consisted of (as I said earlier) in three things: Jeans, Kaka-Cola and a bare ass on TV (neither I said by the way).
            And the people are not to blame for the fact that the propaganda of the proletariat was less interesting. It turns out the people did not believe in the party.

            The Communists were not able to maintain power, the power of the Soviets was not relevant at the time of 1991. Much more interesting and relevant things were suggested by decaying capitalism with its market economy.

            By the fact that the Communists at that time, there was nothing. They had nothing to offer the people. So it was decided to set the stage for global privatization in the country. So they launched the flywheel of the fall of the regime called RESET.
            Privatization is not a momentary phenomenon, it is a carefully planned, prepared process that has been prepared and developed by the Central Committee. The top, seeing a complete lack of prospects for the country and people, decided to initiate these processes. Moreover, there was a prospect of getting rich.
          5. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 29 December 2015 14: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            . It turns out the people did not believe in the party.

            А я ей никогда и не верил, и в партии не состоял, а "плыл по течению", как и большинство в то время. Вот и "выплыли" неизвестно куда. Хорошо, что у власти, в данный момент, стоит Путин. По тому, как он дистанцируется от всяких партий, я думаю, он на верном пути. Пока это видно на примере его внешней политики. С внутренней дело не ахти, но надеюсь настанет и её время.
          6. AlexW
            AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 59 New
            +1
            Веришь -не веришь. Ни кого не интересовало. Если ни член партии значит не управляемый, нет рычагов давления, значит ни какого продвижения по службе. И это не только в армии было. Ученому ни то что лабораторию не доверят, к серьезной работе не допустят.Нет -были конечно честные, идейные и не карьеры ради -но бюрократическая система просто их использовала в своих целях.Основная масса коммунистов таковыми и не были -просто приспособленцы -"члены" партии.
        2. Mr. Pip
          Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 14: 48 New
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          Quote: _Vladislav_
          The Central Committee of the Communist Party consisted of very specific people, and not the whole people. And under her leadership, the war was won, and under her strict guidance only ... to the country.

          Ну уж будьте последовательны: объективно говоря если "ЦК компартии состоял из вполне конкретных людей" то и фраза "под ее руководством была выиграна война, и под ее чутким руководством прос...на страна" лишена смысла!
          Ведь войну выигрывали и страну "проигрывали" вполне конкретные люди и они были разные, и политика у них разная была не смотря на то, что страна при них и называлась одинаково.
        3. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 14: 54 New
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          Quote: Mr. PIP
          Well, be consistent:

          I am consistent.
          There is one party, one slogan, one ultimate goal - communism.

          And the fact that the party and the authorities were one, and the people were different - this is already a delusion. An attempt to justify a dead end algorithm that has no solution.
          Type: We are not to blame, these are different people.

          Yes, quit. Here the Communists won the war, and here it was not the Communists who fell apart. You can’t be a little pregnant.
        4. Gardamir
          Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 32 New
          +1
          There is one party, one slogan, one ultimate goal - communism.
          What is Putin's goal?
        5. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 16: 40 New
          -5
          Quote: Gardamir
          What is Putin's goal?

          You can review the latest live stream from GDP. I think there you will find the answer for yourself.
        6. Gardamir
          Gardamir 29 December 2015 19: 22 New
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          You can review the latest live stream from GDP. I think there you will find the answer for yourself.
          looked, found the answer. but you will not like it. I’ll hint that he’s more and more speaking in his manner and in deeds, and now the West has loved him, more and more like Gorbachev.
        7. AlexW
          AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 07 New
          +1
          К сожалению..... .Конкретики все меньше.Начинается обычное забалтывание. Красивые, правильные слова за которыми не видно реальных дел и целей. Напрашивается аналогия с "ранним" и "поздним" Брежневым. До орденов дело дело еще не дошло, но дифирамбы, на фоне проблем в стране, все громче.
  2. Mr. Pip
    Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 17: 02 New
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    Quote: _Vladislav_
    And the fact that the party and the authorities were one, and the people were different - this is already a delusion.

    Вот чтобы не быть жертвой заблуждений и учите, уважаемый, отечественную историю лучше - потому что и партия (КПСС) и цели (коммунизм только с хрущева) и лозунги и люди (до 1953 года преимущественно из "бывших") были совершенно разные! hi
    You will probably be surprised, but in the days of Stalin:
    Практически не было пенсий, зато было "социальное страхование" - аналог нашему пенсионному.
    There was a paid secondary education, and only primary was universal.
    At the same time, there were meters for water and electricity and gas in communal apartments.
    А ко всему этому в стране действовало "частное предпринимательство" - артели, которые в некоторых отраслях по объему производства занимали большую "долю" чем Государство.
    Да и вообще много чего интересного было, что существенно отличало СССР до 1953 года от СССР после 1953 года - жаль, современные коммунисты вам этого не расскажут - подавляющее большинство коммунистов этого сами не знают и оно и правильно - они бы в "те времена" не выжили fellow
  3. _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 17: 14 New
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    Quote: Mr. PIP
    Here, in order not to be a victim of delusions, and teach, dear, domestic history is better

    Do not tell me what to do, and I will not tell you where to go.

    Quote: Mr. PIP
    The state.
    Да и вообще много чего интересного было, что существенно отличало СССР до 1953 года от СССР после 1953 года - жаль, современные коммунисты вам этого не расскажут - подавляющее большинство коммунистов этого сами не знают и оно и правильно - они бы в "те времена" не выжили

    In those days, under Stalin ..... is the USSR really just that under Stalin? But what about Lenin? The personification of the revolution, so to speak.
    And how tactfully methodically you disowned the USSR after 1953. Like, here we are, because it was cool here. And it's not us because we messed up there. And therefore, do not ask us for this.

    Instead of admitting that the communists are obsessed, you tell me duck stories.
  4. Mr. Pip
    Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 17: 48 New
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    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Don't tell me what to do

    Ну а кто виноват, что вы не знаете что "левые" бывают РАЗНЫЕ, и между ними конкуренция среди них иногда даже больше, чем с "правыми"? request
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    And how tactfully methodically you disowned the USSR after 1953. Like, here we are, because it was cool here.

    Что значит "открещиваюсь"? request
    Я всего лишь констатирую факт - что СССР это большой и противоречивый период, в котором было несколько периодов поменьше - если еще точнее, в СССР было 2 нетипичных для всего остального времени периодов - НЭП и "эпоха Сталина".
    You paint the whole historical period from 1917 to 1991 with one paint — but this is NOT CORRECT, as the internal and foreign policies of the USSR in different periods differed and were quite substantial.
  5. AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 52 New
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    Ordinary communists and party officials — nomenclature — these were completely different parties. The party organization secretary, elected by the party organization, received valuable instructions not even from the district committee secretary. It is not known how anyone elected, but most likely appointed by the party bureaucracy of the regional committee, regional committee. In fact, the party was led by assistants, ordinary employees who got a job for a high salary. Communists, party organizations were needed only to legalize the power of the nomenclature, to punish the obstinate. Well, and of course for membership dues. The salary of the nomenclature, however, had to be paid.
  6. Stanislas
    Stanislas 31 December 2015 08: 57 New
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    blame everything on a mythical party
    Вам за это минус полагается. Партия отнюдь не мифическая, но к 80-м годам народ там числился только для массовки и партвзносов. От "демократического централизма" остались рожки да ножки. Вороватые торгаши и прочие коррумпированные "партейцы" в регионах уже были местными баями. Ельцина выбрали, чтобы пил и грабить не мешал. Отнюдь не мифическая партия, а другой политической силы у нас быть не могло, быстро спелась с Западом, и всё пошло-поехало.
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 December 2015 15: 18 New
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    Quote: _Vladislav_

    Communists came to power on bloody bayonets, titanic efforts for the glory of the revolution ...

    The Bolsheviks came to power ... Social Democrats ...

    Quote: _Vladislav_

    And prosrali all easily and naturally ...

    А вот это сделали коммунисты. Только не те, которые призывали: "Коммунисты - вперёд!!!", - а те, которые орали с трибун: "Коммунисты - в первую очередь..."
    what
  8. ydjin
    ydjin 29 December 2015 15: 43 New
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    _Vladislav _ [/ quote]
    Communists came to power on bloody bayonets, titanic efforts for the glory of the revolution.
    And prosrali all easily and naturally. It was not even necessary to force.
    Grobachev, again, only led this procession. And the country - the party and the Soviet government was crawling.
    She won the war, she prosrail country at the end of the century. [/ Quote]
    Porridge in your head! In it you need not only to eat, but also to think!
  9. _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 15: 48 New
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    Quote: ydjin
    Porridge in your head! In it you need not only to eat, but also to think!

    And it's all?
    Very informative.
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 29 New
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    Communists came to power on bloody bayonets
    But tell Putin unless before 2000 he was a janitor. In his posts, he is responsible for all the chaos and blood of the 90s
  11. _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 16: 35 New
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    Quote: Gardamir
    Tell me Until 2000, Putin was a janitor. In his posts, he is responsible for all the chaos and blood of the 90s

    In short, Putin is to blame. Clear.
  12. yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 December 2015 15: 12 New
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    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Well, I have a question. How did everyone prosralize, and who is to blame?

    Blame Gorbachev with Yeltsin, who brought to this country.
    The elite that brought these people to power is to blame.
    We are to blame, the working people, who nurtured this elite, which lulled us with their promises.
    But to put it in a simple way: WE ARE ALL DIVIDED.


    Никто нас не разводил. Просто в стране не осталось людей, способных мыслить трезво, а главное, объединиться...Кто объединился быстрее, тот и стал править бал. Кто эти "они", видно невооружённым взглядом.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 29 December 2015 13: 47 New
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    Vladislav, but tell me how we ourselves gave power in the 90s? Most of the population of the USSR lived by inertia, the elections were considered empirical, not depending on a particular person at all, privatization was not clear to anyone at all, HOW WE ASKED, what one specific person could do, because the people of this concept are more historical than practical, even now when it is already clear to everyone that the economic bloc of the government is not specifically coping, everything is limited to an evil mumbling among themselves and on programs like Solovyov. In truth until thunder strikes ....
    1. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 14: 12 New
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      Quote: lis-ik
      but tell me, how did we ourselves give power in the 90s?

      You, I didn’t specifically introduce you. It was, in my post, about the leadership of the country. Namely, the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Not much, not a little. Please note, people love to remember the glorious Soviet past. And there really were a lot of positive things. However, the people believed in what? To the party. And where did this party lead the people?
      So if you are not a communist or their follower, I have no questions for you at all.
      Further....

      Quote: lis-ik
      even now when it’s already visible to everyone that the economic bloc of the government is not specifically managing

      I sometimes like to watch how the people declare their position in moments when a little fried smell.

      Remember:
      The beginning of 2014, the imposition of sanctions against Russia by the West. The opinion of the people, the majority.
      - Ohhhh, what are these sanctions for us, we will tear you up, where are your sanctions, Putin did well.
      Mid-summer 2014, the opinion of the population.
      - Oh my God, Khan, the ruble is falling, oil is falling on guard, Putin, why the hell are you doing this all, the economy can’t cope, everything is gone.
      The beginning of 2015. Opinion of the population.
      - Oh, and yes, we don’t care about your sanctions, and what is all this? and the west? we knew it, we said that your sanctions suck.
      The end of 2015. Opinion
      - Ahhhh guard !!! tangerines in the store !!!! oil!!!! ruble!!! The economic bloc is not coping, Putin - leave!

      That is, and this is just a small example.
      It turns out that you, the people, expect from Putin, as the leader of a great state, great accomplishments and compliance with the status of a great power. Putin begins to act, and as soon as you meet a light breeze, as resistance increases, on the part of the enemy you are right away - aaaaa! guard! my tangerines in the store. And immediately you start to vang, we are not going there, this is not the right way, but under Stalin ..... and so on.

      For this, well, honestly, with all due respect, you are not doing a thankful job.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 29 December 2015 15: 40 New
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      Quote: _Vladislav_

      It turns out that you, the people, expect from Putin, as the leader of a great state, great accomplishments and compliance with the status of a great power. Putin begins to act, and as soon as you meet a light breeze, as resistance increases, on the part of the enemy you are right away - aaaaa! guard! my tangerines in the store. And immediately you start to vang, we are not going there, this is not the right way, but under Stalin ..... and so on.

      For this, well, honestly, with all due respect, you are not doing a thankful job.


      Do not try to build phrases half true. We are entitled to expect great achievements from Putin, since he was elected. And he, as the guarantor of Costituation, is obliged not only to pay attention to the destruction of terrorists outside the Russian Federation, but also to take effective measures to intensify the actions of the government. Now the situation of the 90s is beginning to develop. It is enough to miss the moment, and citizens who do not have the right under Art. 37 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation will become somewhat active in other activities, the search for livelihoods.

      We do not have our stores, and in stores - tangerines. We are workers, in the modern world - workers whom the employer has the right to kick out of the gate at any whim (just don’t argue and do not say that the interests of the employee are protected by the chairman of the company’s trade union organization bought with offal). And we have the right to tell the guarantor that not everything that Moscow is Russia. For the residents of our city, it sounds like a mockery, an invitation to take a walk along the festive, shining lights of New Year's streets (TV commercials), when there is not even one, the most ordinary lamp on their own ...

      But actually, Karamzin correctly said:
      "Всякий народ имеет ту власть, которую заслуживает".
      hi
    3. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 16: 14 New
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      Quote: yuriy55
      Do not try to build phrases half true.

      I'm not trying, I'm building phrases.
      It is not clear only by what criteria, evaluating my comment, you determined the degree of falsehood of this writing.

      Quote: yuriy55
      We are entitled to expect great achievements from Putin, since he was elected.

      Of course, they elected and declared their position - but under Stalin, but earlier, we cannot do anything, we must act, we want to be Great, Americans by the fingernail.
      Putin began to act. The slightest resistance is already unbalancing you. Well, if you are so much afraid of socio-economic overloads, then what the hell is it, you expected Putin to confront the West. You do not understand what this threatens.

      Like, we want to be great, to be respected and reckoned with us, but without consequences, and so everything was beautiful.
      Alas, this does not happen.
      And if you are not ready for this, then I propose not to twitch, but to develop in the wake of American politics.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 35 New
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    However, the people believed in what? To the party. And where did this party lead the people?
    However, people believe in what? In Putin. And where does this Putin lead the people?
  • _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 29 December 2015 16: 44 New
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    Quote: Gardamir
    However, people believe in what? In Putin. And where does this Putin lead the people?

    People really believe in Putin. Or does not believe. But he leads the people.
    And accordingly, the final result of his work can be judged by its results.
    If you want to draw conclusions about the work already done, well, please compare 2000 and 2016.

    What was, what is. What was not, and what they got.
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 29 December 2015 17: 56 New
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    Quote: _Vladislav_
    But he leads the people.

    Where, for what purpose, nothing of the kind has been announced to society, and he does not lead the people, he enjoys his support, and you just need Western lending and high hydrocarbon prices, life here and now, no strategic planning, the law on industrial policy has not been adopted, as I understand it ...
  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 17 New
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    Вы уверены, что это Путин ведет народ. Вот так вот один взял за фаберже весь 140 млн. народ и повел куда то. Опять аналогия с Брежневым -с 64г по 75-76 -прогресс во всем, а чем закончился -афган, крах экономики, "гонки на лафетах" и передача власти Горбачеву -могильщику СССР.А где народ? -Народ безмолвствует и послушно топает за очередным вождем "всех времен и народов"
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  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 38 New
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    Guilty of course. What kind of system did he create that allowed the transfer of power to mediocrity
  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 49 New
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    Of course to blame! What kind of system did Stalin create that allowed the mediocrity to come to power and destroy the work of his whole life!
  • a housewife
    a housewife 29 December 2015 18: 02 New
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    Bullshit bad luck with a wheel. Here the New Year is on the nose, and my telly and microwave broke at once, this is bad luck! crying
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 21 New
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      Bullshit is a question - a telly is a box for idiots, and microwaves (their radiation) are harmful to health - this is what we have known since the days of the USSR.
  • veksha50
    veksha50 29 December 2015 11: 27 New
    +8
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    "Его империя" как раз при нём и существовала, и то, что в дальнейшем СССР не повезло с руководителями, это не вина Сталина!



    In fact, we still use the many fruits of that empire ... Not until the end, the young reformers destroyed ...
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 29 December 2015 12: 23 New
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    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    "Его империя" как раз при нём и существовала, и то, что в дальнейшем СССР не повезло с руководителями, это не вина Сталина!

    Quite right))) This is his defect in the future.
  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 36 New
    +1
    Вот это и плохо, что от одного человека зависит судьба миллионов. Плохой был Ельцин, повезло с его "приемником". А кто его сменит?? Сидим трясемся -как бы хуже не было...
  • nimboris
    nimboris 29 December 2015 12: 04 New
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    gentlemen imperialists ... swindlers and parasites))
  • Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 29 December 2015 12: 43 New
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    We had Iron Felix.
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 29 December 2015 08: 49 New
    +2
    Do not press, but send in a peaceful direction. They are sane.
  • Consul-t
    Consul-t 29 December 2015 09: 01 New
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    It would be nice to squeeze the Communists.
    In my deep conviction, Russian society has become very field


    Может дело не в коммунистах? а в нашем айфонщике? В правительстве все делают, для начала революции. И как говорит на гарант, "Правительство работает эффективно"
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 December 2015 12: 26 New
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      Quote: Consul-t
      В правительстве все делают, для начала революции. И как говорит на гарант, "Правительство работает эффективно"

      Or maybe he is plotting a revolution in this way? :-)
  • Mr. Pip
    Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 09: 35 New
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    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    In my deep conviction, Russian society has become very field

    The most interesting thing is that the State Department’s natural intrigues are hiding behind the left flags after not rolling right ones.
    Хотя, с другой стороны, посмотрите на европу - налоги для умных под 60%, пособия по безработице для глупых (в том числе для "беженцев"), легализация всех возможных извращений с целью недопущения любых "дискриминаций" - вообщем европа теперь рай для любого коммуниста, желающего "все отобрать и поделить" а потом "есть и не работать" fellow
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    Are we ready for another great October one?

    The problem of Russia was not Oktyabrskaya, it was only a consequence of complete anarchy in the country - the Bolsheviks provided at least some power in the country and at least thank them for that.
    But now we have the glory of God in the country there is a Strong Power, and you can also fuss on the Internet - no one is afraid of trepunov laughing
    1. dauria
      dauria 29 December 2015 10: 30 New
      +8
      рай для любого коммуниста, желающего "все отобрать и поделить" а потом "есть и не работать"


      A strange idea of ​​the Communists. laughing На тетрадках в линейку на последней страничке обложки печатали "Моральный кодекс строителя коммунизма". Гляньте , удивитесь. А то, что написали Вы, очень подходит к нашим "олигархам"

      The text of the "Code of Ethics for the Builder of Communism"
      1 Devotion to the cause of communism, love for the socialist homeland, for the countries of socialism.
      2 Conscientious work for the good of society: he who does not work does not eat.
      3 Everyone's concern for maintaining and enhancing the public domain.
      4 High consciousness of public duty, intolerance to violations of public interests.
      5 Collectivism and comradely mutual assistance: each for all, all for one.
      6 Humane relations and mutual respect between people: a person is a friend to a friend, comrade and brother.
      7 Honesty and truthfulness, moral purity, simplicity and modesty in public and personal life.
      8 Mutual respect in the family, concern for raising children.
      9 Intransigence to injustice, parasitism, dishonesty, careerism,

      money-grubbing.
      10 Friendship and fraternity of all the peoples of the USSR, intolerance of national and racial

      dislike.
      Intolerance towards the enemies of communism, the cause of peace and freedom of peoples.
      Fraternal solidarity with the working people of all countries, with all peoples.
      1. Mr. Pip
        Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 11: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: dauria
        The text of the "Code of Ethics for the Builder of Communism"

        Words seemingly beautiful, but did they work? fellow
        Мало разве среди членов КПСС было карьеристов, много ли среди них было действительно преданных делу коммунизма, мало ли было тунеядцев, диссидентов, стиляг - знали ли о уважении к покупателю продавщицы советских магазинов - правильно ли понимали "гуманность и товарищество" дерущиеся на сельской дискотеке - почему им было все равно на то, что было написано в школьной тетрадке на последней странички?
        Isn’t adult life more complicated than a school notebook? request
        1. dauria
          dauria 29 December 2015 13: 22 New
          +5
          Words seemingly beautiful, but did they work?


          Представьте себе , работали. Слова всегда "работают". На современных тёток в церкви старухи шипят- одень платок, и те одевают smile Of course people fully с такой моралью всегда было мало, и можно считать это мечтой. Но она хотя бы была. А что теперь? Поповское "не убий, не укради" , да и то не для всех ? "Успех", который выражен даже не в деньгах, а в obligatory protrusion наличия этих денег ( иначе и смысла нет). Бронированные двери, решётки, заборы, видеокамеры, охрана (от кого?) Это жизнь? . Тфу, да любой работяга тогда жил свободней и без страха за будущее, чем теперешний "манагер"
          1. Mr. Pip
            Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 13: 35 New
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            Quote: dauria
            "Успех", который выражен даже не в деньгах, а в обязательном выпячивании наличия этих денег

            What exactly do you mean by that? An expensive car or a big house? Well, this, like many other things, is first of all more comfortable.
            Quote: dauria
            Armored doors, bars, fences, video cameras, security (from whom?) Is this life?

            And then what's wrong? It means that people have something to protect, during the USSR there was simply nothing special to protect and there was no possibility, now it has appeared - what's bad? request
      2. AlexW
        AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 37 New
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        Эти заповеди были обязательны к исполнению рядовым коммунистам -труженикам. У номенклатуры были совершенно другие заповеди - прямо противоположные. Когда вождям надоело прятать"нажитое честным трудом" они и порвали страну на удельные княжества. Первые секретари стали президентами, вторые-третьи губернаторами и мэрами.Ну и секретарям райком то же кое что досталось -фабрики, заводы. А простым пахарям -ваучеры.:)
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 29 December 2015 13: 55 New
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    Cap Morgan "российское общество сильно полевело, что грозит очередной великой революцией "
    If anyone really provokes a revolution in modern Russia, it’s the oligarchs and the 5th column, in the person of the opposition paid by the US State Department.
    While the latter do this consciously with the aim of redistributing property, neglecting the interests of the country, the former create the country's economic difficulties for the sake of personal interests.
    There are formally parties in the Russian Federation, but of these, only partially the Communist Party sometimes try unsuccessfully to defend a different point of view from the EP.
    And there is no reason to blame the Communist Party for revolution. The deputies' corps is mostly homogeneous. Any party is predominantly represented by the same people: they didn’t choose from EP, they go to the Communist Party to get power on their lists.
    Only those who consider neglect of the interests of the state to be the norm can lead to a revolution in the country.
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 29 December 2015 17: 31 New
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    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    It would be nice to squeeze the Communists.

    On the Ukrainian path pulled? Can all parties be banned except EP?
  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 32 New
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    Причем тут коммунисты во главе с прикормленным "оппозиционером" Зюгановым.Те же либералы -олигархи и организуют русский майдан, что бы остаться у кормушки.
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 29 December 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    Нам сейчас сам Бог "велит" открывать новые предприятия для организации экспорта, отличная возможность подсадить на свой товар Европу! Пример Китая перед глазами!
    1. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 09: 52 New
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      Quote: Samaritan
      Нам сейчас сам Бог "велит" открывать новые предприятия для организации экспорта

      Экспорт уже "пошел" с уже имеющихся предприятий.
      В остальном, эти предприятия открывает не государство, а бизнес - у государство всего 3 ветви власти: законодательная, исполнительная и судебная - ветки "насильственное открывание предприятия" в демократическом государстве не предусмотрено.
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 29 December 2015 08: 47 New
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    Дойдет и до либерастов. Просто метода у Путина такая - все делать демократическим путем, что бы комар носу не подточил. Видимо, когда приходил к власти, определенные гарантии безопасности и признания "общечеловеческих ценностей" либерастам дать пришлось. А ВВП своих слов на ветер не бросает и пальцы за спиной не скрещивает. Просто в один день важную фигуру из вице-премьеров двигают на хлебную должность в РАО, лишая возможности влиять на государственные дела, но так, что западным кураторам обижаться не на что, потом на не менее хлебную, но совсем уж боковую Роснано, и опять все тихо, а теперь выясняется, что замы то воруют, значит и сам не очень чист - как минимум отставка с позором, или посадка. Только кто его будет теперь защищать? Обычный проворовавшийся манагер.
    Думаю, сейчас эту методу нужно ускорить и упростить. Кураторам не до защиты "демократии" в России. А народ поддержит.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 29 December 2015 08: 53 New
      0
      Putin’s simple method is to do everything democratically, so that the mosquito doesn’t undermine his nose.

      Возможно, он и не у Иосифа Виссарионовича учился, но тогда, точно, ни к одному Делу подцепиться было нельзя, все по Закону. Всяким Мемориалам, приходилось пачками реабилитировать, так просто, "не виновата я...", и все.
      1. skifd
        skifd 29 December 2015 09: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: avva2012
        Putin’s simple method is to do everything democratically


        Well, yes, but still ...

        1. avva2012
          avva2012 29 December 2015 10: 09 New
          +4
          Good song. Well, only Joseph Vissarionovich did not speak, but did.
          Do not tell me how, you put the video. It seems to be clear with the picture, there is an icon.
          1. Yura
            Yura 29 December 2015 11: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: avva2012
            Do not tell me how, you put the video. It seems to be clear with the picture, there is an icon.

            The button with the image of the film, then insert the copied video address on YouTube or another resource and that's it.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 29 December 2015 11: 51 New
              +1
              Thank! Holiday greetings!
        2. Chelyabinsk
          Chelyabinsk 29 December 2015 11: 16 New
          0
          And I think they will surrender themselves.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 46 New
      +1
      And GDP does not throw its words into the wind
      Remember how he promised to protect Russians in Ukraine? Now other songs. Wait, here you draw another HPP. Only truly for the Russian Kremlin is worse than the State Department.
      1. skifd
        skifd 29 December 2015 15: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        Only truly for Russian Kremlin worse than the State Department.


        Choi I a всё больше от "гусских-х-х" слышу .... wassat What are you waking up from ?? request
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 29 December 2015 16: 02 New
          +1
          Judging by the profile picture, a real Russian pagan. The wheel of Veles, in my opinion.
          So, where, where are we, clumsy. Although, no, their clubfoot is also in honor.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 49 New
            0
            hi
            The wheel of Veles, in my opinion.
            Просто Колесо. катится Колесо по дороге жизни. И всё повторяется. Почему я такой злой? Да потому что снова свернули на те же ухабы. Понимаю молодых, им хочется своих шишек себе на лоб набить. А мне то, "шо опять"?
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 29 December 2015 17: 32 New
              +2
              Ну и слава Богу,вы, хоть не поклонник, Перуна. А, то модное увлечение, язычество стало. А, то, что злой, плохо конечно. Ведь, чем моложе, тем непримиримие. Вы, наоборот, человек более мудрый, раз старше. Значит и к пониманию ближе. Но, выражение,"для русских кремль пострашнее госдепа", перебор, не считаете?
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 29 December 2015 16: 40 New
          0
          However, the people believed in what? To the party. And where did this party lead the people?
          What am I? I’m from Vyatka myself, what do you think?
    3. AlexW
      AlexW 30 December 2015 04: 44 New
      0
      "Определенные гарантии безопасности....либерастам дать", а заодно и чиновничьей номенклатуре не прикасаемость, гарантии казнокрадами и коррупционерам.Только вот работягам и пенсионерам как всегда ни кто ни что не гарантирует.
  • Altona
    Altona 29 December 2015 15: 23 New
    0
    Quote: avvg
    На мой взгляд если Путин как "Железный человек"поставил бы всех Либералов из правительства "на место" и ему цены не было бы.

    ----------------------
    Сложный вопрос. Демарш Чубайса на корпоративе и слова на пресс-конференции о "разбрасываться и дорожить своими кадрами" не оставляют нам надежд на смену элит. Читаю книгу Веллера "Срок для президента", думаю тоже как мы дошли до такой ситуации и как будем выходить. За рядом спорных моментов читать интересно, хоть я и списал Веллера как писателя со своей полки как увлекающегося сильными перехлестами в своих опусах.

    Link: https://www.litmir.co/br/?b=170722&p=1
  • AlexW
    AlexW 30 December 2015 03: 18 New
    0
    Ага, еще бы казнокрадов, да корупционеров и остался бы один- без "команды".Хотя он и так, как его СМИ преподносит, один работает, везде поспевает. И рубильники дергает, и щенков детям дарит,и шоу проводит на тему :"Все хорошо прекрасная маркиза"
  • WE ARE MAKING
    WE ARE MAKING 29 December 2015 06: 53 New
    17
    Putin is iron, but the economy is made of foreign smelly plastic.
  • USSR 1971
    USSR 1971 29 December 2015 06: 53 New
    19
    I support and share the president’s foreign policy by 100%, unfortunately internal by 60. I can’t understand why a number of clearly incompetent ministers are being held, the issues of the fight against corruption and the softness of the thieves in the state. sphere.
    And bureaucratic lordly mess on regional seats and around them.
    1. andre
      andre 29 December 2015 07: 46 New
      13
      Вот я не понимаю,все тут думают что Путин если бы хотел,то давно всех взяточников и казнокрадов пересажал и перестрелял? Все помнят как наш ВВП пришел к власти,а главное после кого? Вы думаете что простой товарищ из кгб мог вот так запросто убрать подальше всех грабителей народа - олигархов.Явно это был приход "команды". Короче вывод мой таков,не все так просто в нашей власти. Внутренний враг он намного страшнее!!!
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 29 December 2015 08: 30 New
        -5
        Answers to your questions in the reign of Peter the Great. No one remembers the scope of the theft of that era, but great achievements remained.
        Putin wants to make looted billions work for the Russian economy.
        By and large it doesn’t matter who is at the control levers of this or that enterprise. It is important that this corporation works.
        1. Mr. Pip
          Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 09: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          Putin wants to make looted billions work for the Russian economy.

          "Награбленное" уже работает.
          Любой человек, поинтересовавшийся структурой бизнеса "олигархов" с удивлением может узнать, что это "виртуальные миллиарды" работающие на экономику РФ - и как вы верно отметили, кто "оператор" этих миллиардов уже не важно.
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 29 December 2015 11: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          Putin wants to make looted billions work for the Russian economy.


          Hmm ... If he manages to do this - he will need to erect a monument during his life ....
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 49 New
      +1
      I support the foreign policy of the president
      What is his foreign policy? With examples please.
    3. Bespectacled
      Bespectacled 29 December 2015 16: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: USSR 1971
      internal unfortunately at 60.

      Yes, you are a big optimist!
    4. Altona
      Altona 29 December 2015 18: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: USSR 1971
      I can’t understand why a number of clearly incompetent ministers are being held, the issues of combating corruption and the softness of the thieves in the state. sphere.
      And bureaucratic lordly mess on regional seats and around them.

      -------------------
      He answered, he doesn’t surrender his own, legalized the stolen, the rest wipe themselves and cry.
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 29 December 2015 06: 59 New
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    Since 2005, in the absence of any real threats, the editorial continues, Russia has increased its military budget by five times

    Russia has no threats at all, only we smell flowers. yes
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 December 2015 07: 32 New
      +8
      Quote: Vladimirets

      Russia has no threats at all, only we smell flowers

      They would have considered the American budget, but apparently the authors of European publications are not paid for this.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 December 2015 07: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They would have considered the American budget

        The United States is full of threats, one Ebola is worth it, but here the military budget cannot be increased. smile
  • Cu6up9k
    Cu6up9k 29 December 2015 07: 05 New
    -6
    Everything is not so obvious in the president’s domestic policy. Perhaps if there had been a different domestic policy, there would have been no such foreign policy.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 29 December 2015 08: 00 New
      +6
      Cu6up9k is probably the daughter of a Kiev stoker, in which not everything is clear. Kievans refuse heating and hot water. wassat
      1. Bespectacled
        Bespectacled 29 December 2015 16: 35 New
        +1
        I think the opinion of a friend Cu6up9k entitled to be. Only a strong state respects and fears (militarily, economically and politically). And no Turks and others like them would allow themselves such attacks and provocations.
        And with our domestic policies, we have little chance of this. Only now nuclear weapons restrain adversaries.
      2. Cu6up9k
        Cu6up9k 31 December 2015 08: 18 New
        0
        And Balu, apparently, is just a circus misha
      3. Cu6up9k
        Cu6up9k 31 December 2015 08: 18 New
        0
        And Balu, apparently, is just a circus misha
    2. Cu6up9k
      Cu6up9k 31 December 2015 08: 22 New
      0
      I tried to convey the idea that the president also had to come to an agreement within the state and, therefore, not all his desires and projects in domestic politics could be realized. To have to put up with something and sacrifice something to gain support in foreign policy.
  • 1536
    1536 29 December 2015 07: 11 New
    +6
    Сменили риторику, но суть политики "сдерживания" России осталась прежней.
  • vitya1945
    vitya1945 29 December 2015 07: 15 New
    +3
    России повезло что у руля ,,железный человек",а не ,,железный дровосек".
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 December 2015 07: 17 New
    +3
    why does she (Russia) step up the arms race and take threatening actions against the United States?

    There’s no point in answering yet another stupidity, moreover, dense. Even with a normal assessment, the West will not do without a spoon (scoop) of tar. And estimates of GDP in the West have really changed for the better, if you do not take into account the finished Russophobia.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      . And estimates of GDP in the West have really changed for the better,

      Yeah, how much they love Yeltsin and Gorbachev ...
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 54 New
      +1
      And estimates of GDP in the West have really changed for the better
      Интересно который раз я задаю этот вопрос? Все пищали. когда Путина ругали, ну как же "раз запад ругает значит всё правильно делаем". Теперь опять правильно делаем? Как так?
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 29 December 2015 15: 57 New
        +2
        We are doing everything right! And this is a warning to America:
        https://www.gismeteo.kz/news/proisshestviya/9394-na-zapade-meksiki-vnov-izvergae
        tsya-vulkan-kolima /
  • parusnik
    parusnik 29 December 2015 07: 20 New
    +8
    But if her morality is so high, why is she stepping up the arms race and taking threatening actions against the United States?My dear man, yes, because the USA is running around the world with a gas canister and with matches .. Here we’ll burn it down .. US pyroman .. he will set fire to something, and then admires it, or it’s throwing firewood into the fire .. Naive, you're my...
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 29 December 2015 07: 34 New
    +2
    Nothing is as effective as gross flattery
  • Roust
    Roust 29 December 2015 07: 37 New
    -1
    He feels the support of his people, lifted the country from its knees after the treacherous rule of humpback and drunk EBN. The main thing is that we do not whimper about the economy. Be patient. Everything will be fine.
    1. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 09: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Roust
      He feels the support of his people.

      Именно, посмотрите сами по сторонам, почти каждый имеющий деньги или кредиты и за счет них одежду, машины, квартиры и отпуск на югах - это и есть самый надежный электорат Путина, который гарантированно против любого "майдана".
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 10: 23 New
        -1
        Quote: Mr. PIP
        Именно, посмотрите сами по сторонам, почти каждый имеющий деньги или кредиты и за счет них одежду, машины, квартиры и отпуск на югах - это и есть самый надежный электорат Путина, который гарантированно против любого "майдана".

        And this layer is just starting to stand on its hind legs .. You are sorry, apparently from another layer ..
        1. Mr. Pip
          Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 10: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          .Sorry, apparently from another layer.

          Вам, простите, видимо по делу сказать нечего было и "что сказали то сказали"? request
          Ну так давайте, расскажите мне, как человек у которого например 1.0-1.5 млн "за машину" и 3.0-3.5 млн "за квартиру" пойдет на "умирать на майдан" лишь по тому, что в магазине хлеб и гречка подорожали? laughing
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 10: 47 New
            -1
            Quote: Mr. PIP
            Ну так давайте, расскажите мне, как человек у которого например 1.0-1.5 млн "за машину" и 3.0-3.5 млн "за квартиру" пойдет на "умирать на майдан" лишь по тому,

            He will do it because there is nothing to pay for all these loans and a mortgage .. but the price of buckwheat, etc., it’s not significant
            1. Mr. Pip
              Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 11: 25 New
              -1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              He will go to him because there is nothing to pay for all these loans and mortgages.

              This is in honor of what it is? request
              Salaries did not fall, and loan payments remained the same.
              And if he was fired, then Putin is NOT to blame.
              А если ему после "подорожания гречки" стало нечем платить по кредитам то виноват тоже только он сам - нормальные люди планируют бюджет так, чтобы всегда оставался "запас покупательской способности".
              Кстати о падении "покупательской способности" наших граждан - падание покупательской способности не приводит напрямую к ухудшению уровня жизни при наличии "запаса" этой самой покупательской способности.
              За всех говорить не буду (говорю за поддерживающих Путина) но "запас" у наших людей есть!
              Достаточно поинтересоваться статистикой, в крупных во всяком случае городах (где живет основная масса наших граждан) основные покупки это товары "средней и выше средней ценовой категории" а частота покупок дорогих товаров (тех же машин) чаще чем в ЕС.
              Поэтому "электорат" Путина (а о нем была речь изначально) хуже жить не стал, если вы конечно улавливаете основную логику hi
              Ну а "недовольные" будут всегда, главное, что среди "недовольных" практически нет "активных слоев населения" - если вы конечно опять понимаете о чем я hi
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 11: 52 New
                +4
                Quote: Mr. PIP
                Ну а "недовольные" будут всегда, главное, что среди "недовольных" практически нет "активных слоев населения" - если вы конечно опять

                Oh, Vanya, Vanya - as he was Down House, he stayed ..
                On the sim, I stop the dialogue with the troll ..
                1. Mr. Pip
                  Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 12: 09 New
                  -2
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  I stop the dialogue with the troll ..

                  When there is nothing to say, go to the personality of the opponent? request
                  Bye hi
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 55 New
      +1
      lifted the country from its knees
      but could not straighten up. more like a cancer pose.
    3. yuriy55
      yuriy55 29 December 2015 16: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Roust
      He feels the support of his people, lifted the country from its knees after the treacherous rule of humpback and drunk EBN. The main thing is that we do not whimper about the economy. Be patient. Everything will be fine.


      The most important thing is not to endure ... laughing
      Here, after all, how? Better to overtake than not to overtake ... wink
  • 31rus
    31rus 29 December 2015 07: 39 New
    +4
    Уважаемые,что за туфтология?Путин "железный человек",ну тогда следуя логики ЕС по отношению к России просто железобетон,реально чего мы Россия добились?Уже слушать противно "прорыв","новый поворот" и т.д,да только все на месте,пиар конечно хорошо ,вот только для кого?И как тут не стать железным ,считай в изоляции живем
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 December 2015 07: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: 31rus
      But just for whom?

      For the electorate
    2. nrex
      nrex 29 December 2015 08: 16 New
      +3
      War time, you know, has arrived. Maybe you didn’t notice?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 29 December 2015 08: 48 New
        +3
        War time, you know, has arrived.
        And don’t say Rotenbergs are now getting contracts, without a tender, yes. war, s, but how much has not been drank yet?
  • Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 29 December 2015 07: 42 New
    +4
    And the USA is so white and fluffy. Yeah. But Putin is a hooligan, breaks other people's toys, driving them out of the sandbox into which they were shitting.
  • Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 29 December 2015 07: 51 New
    +6
    True, Moscow was denied high motives: if it is so moral, then why is it arranging an arms race?

    Ну не понятно толерантным господам!.. Не умещается в их головах, что нравственность, как и добро, должна быть с кулаками! Не отвечают эти понятия толерантным "ценностям".
  • Mantykora
    Mantykora 29 December 2015 08: 01 New
    +7
    Лучше не "железный", а "настоящий человек".

    However, in Russia, Putin acts "like a petty gangster": after all, he is building up military power, trying to confront the West, and also putting pressure on political opponents within the country. “Putin may think that he is a hero, but he acts like a petty bully”

    Как политкорректно и вежливо... оскорблять президента другой страны без серьезного повода или официальной войны. Замечательные "американские стандарты" и "культура".
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 12: 58 New
      0
      Лучше не "железный", а "настоящий человек".
      a liberal cannot be a real person!
  • nrex
    nrex 29 December 2015 08: 07 New
    +2
    I don’t care what the Western press writes about him, but the society is definitely starting to wake up. Good deeds and in word of mouth reach the masses.
  • V.ic
    V.ic 29 December 2015 08: 08 New
    +4
    Western analysts call Putin "Iron Man" (in the English hard-man original).

    I'm not very agile in English, but comparable:
    (in the English original hard-man) hammer into the translator hard and get = hard;
    Slaughter iron and get iron.
    So this is not about the metal that this character is made of, but about the characterization of the opponent - type = hard man / man flint /.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 December 2015 12: 29 New
      0
      Quote: V.ic
      and about the characteristic of the opponent - type = hard man / man flint /.

      или "крутой"
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 29 December 2015 13: 28 New
        -1
        Quote: sa-ag
        или "крутой"

        У Юрия Шевчука в одной из песен есть выражение: "Но не знали мы молодые, Что крутыми бывают лишь яйца."
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 December 2015 08: 13 New
    +4
    Without reformatting domestic politics, the economy, the elite, we should not hope for success in foreign affairs. Where are our allies ?. At a short historical stage, you can probably do without them. But we got involved in a long game of survival. Without reforms within the country, without revising their foreign policy ambitions (Russia is far from the USSR), they will trample us. We threw the glove to the powers that be. Retreat is impossible.
  • avva2012
    avva2012 29 December 2015 08: 18 New
    -1
    Все у господ, демократов, детство в одном месте играет. Супермен, железный человек, фу. В России другое название есть, "человек с железными я..". Это вам, не Горбачев, "начать, кончать", Путин, по-русски, четко выражается и емко. Ничего, господа хорошие, "Будет вам и белка, будет и свисток!".
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 December 2015 08: 44 New
      0
      Putin, in Russian, is clearly expressed and capacious.
      Yes Yes. buzzwords are its transparent, implicit, volatility, and so on.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 29 December 2015 08: 56 New
        0
        Well, we then understood with you, and whoever didn’t understand, it was clearly told about (in) the tomatoes (s).
  • nrex
    nrex 29 December 2015 08: 20 New
    +5
    Quote: vladimirvn
    Without reformatting domestic politics, the economy, the elite, we should not hope for success in foreign affairs. Where are our allies ?. At a short historical stage, you can probably do without them. But we got involved in a long game of survival. Without reforms within the country, without revising their foreign policy ambitions (Russia is far from the USSR), they will trample us. We threw the glove to the powers that be. Retreat is impossible.

    The allies of Russia, as at all times, are the Army and Navy, and now also the VKS.
    All the rest without handouts are not friends.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 December 2015 08: 43 New
    +1
    Забавно, как "излучатели добра" работают! Оказывается, когда запад путина хвалит это хорошо? Только хард это не железо
  • avva2012
    avva2012 29 December 2015 09: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    Western analysts have declared Putin "Iron Man"

    В истории нашей страны уже был "железный человек" и он так прямо и звался: Сталин! Ох накаркаете на свою голову, господа империалисты!

    We are waiting, we hope and believe.
  • Vantal
    Vantal 29 December 2015 09: 16 New
    -1
    Putin has to perforce be a “petty hooligan” to give big hooligans on the nose ....
    And we will help him in this. Nobody except us!
  • Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil 29 December 2015 10: 37 New
    +2
    And I like Putin because for the first time since Uncle Joe’s reign, I’m not ashamed of the head of state.
    In addition, Putin is the leader of the nation, not a hired manager like the current European officials!
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 29 December 2015 10: 58 New
    +3
    "Если она (Москва) столь нравственна, то зачем устраивает гонку вооружений?"
    Is the answer not clear?
    In order to defend a moral position, war cannot be allowed.
    And the most effective way to rule out a war is to be so strong that no one doubts that Russia cannot win the war, which is what Putin is now doing to prevent an attack on the Russian Federation.
    Then the dialogue about morality begins, when the adversary realizes that in the fight he will fail and lose everything, and in the dialogue a mutually beneficial result will be obtained.
    The situation in international affairs is how does a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada defend his position, which is more effective: to fight Klitschko or to conduct a dialogue?
    Putin in the dialogue, of course, is not Klitschko, but you should not run into his fist.
    That is why Russia clenches its fists to force peace.
    1. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 29 December 2015 11: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: olimpiada15
      that’s what Putin’s doing now is preventing an attack on the Russian Federation.

      Вот именно, но прямо напасть на Россию с её растущей мощью и влиянием очень дорого и очень опасно - поэтому "англичанка" как всегда гадит - вводит санкции для стимулирования "недовольства" и стимулирует "оппозицию" стимулировать "недовольство" с одной единственной целью - ударить Путину "майданом" в спину - её избитый и проверенный прием.
  • veksha50
    veksha50 29 December 2015 11: 19 New
    0
    "Но потом «что-то произошло»..... в сентябре he agreed нанести авиаудары по позициям джихадистов в Сирии"....

    Um ... If you describe everything like that, as the Anglo-Amer journalist writes, then it is clear why Putin and Russia, to put it mildly, do not like ...

    So, Putin, at the request of the coalition, began to fight in Syria ... But what does the journalist not mention that for three months (the United States and Great Britain persuade the same Putin to join their coalition ???)

    А "угрозы России" - просто смешны...

    Hooligan Putin ... Nooo, he has not yet hooligan ... While he acts tactfully and diplomatically ...
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 29 December 2015 11: 28 New
      +1
      So a journalist had never seen bullies in his life.
      Если только в фильмах Гай Ричи. А, если у писаки, воображение хорошее, то вообще хана. Как представит на улицах Лондона казака (-ов) из "Шерлок Холмса...", и штаны бежит менять.
  • L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 29 December 2015 12: 24 New
    +6
    As Putin does not try, but as there was complete anarchy in the country, it remains. The oligarchs rob the bowels of the earth. Many enterprises and factories are in decline.
  • Balagan
    Balagan 29 December 2015 12: 45 New
    0
    Well, with a small bully, everything is clear. And the big one is Obama?
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 29 December 2015 13: 34 New
      0
      Quote: booth
      Well, with a small bully, everything is clear. And the big one is Obama?

      No, Obama, if large, then hender and sneak.
      As sometimes children are mischievous, they spoof and run to complain that the other is to blame.
      Only in the international arena from such behavior of leaders- the blood of innocent people flows in streams.
  • su163
    su163 29 December 2015 13: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: alex-s
    4 out of 5 residents in the United Kingdom would prefer to see the Russian president in the leaders of Great Britain, and not David Cameron at all

    Do we need a British region ?! laughing


    NO. Feed then these slurp .............
  • Glad
    Glad 29 December 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    “Russia has repeatedly positioned itself as a heroic stronghold and protector of civilization against the backdrop of a helpless West,” writes the publication. “But if its morality is so high, why does it increase the arms race and take threatening actions against the United States?”

    А это ничего, что военный бюджет блока НАТО "слегка" больше, чем военные бюджеты всех остальных стран мира вместе взятых?
    And these people say that Russia is stepping up the arms race and recall morality ...
    May cried. wassat
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 December 2015 13: 51 New
    +4
    ... Where, indicate to us, fatherland fathers,
    Which ones should we take for samples?
    Are not these people robbery rich?
    Protection from court in friends found, in kinship,
    Magnificent building chambers,
    Where are bottled in feasts and revelry

    And where do not resurrect customers-foreigners
    Passed through the life of the infamous features.
    And who in Moscow was not clamped with mouths
    Lunches, dinners and dancing? ...


    ... Here are those who survived to gray hair!
    That's to respect who we should be in the desert!
    Here are our strict judges and judges!
    Now let one of us,
    Of the young people, there is - the enemy of the quest,
    Without demanding a place or a promotion in rank,
    In science he casts a mind that thirsts for knowledge;
    Or in his soul God himself will stir up the heat
    To the creative, high and beautiful arts -
    They immediately: robbery! fire!
    And he will be known as a dreamer! dangerous !! ...


    Messages from A.S. Griboedov

    Maya Hahatal laughing
  • Glad
    Glad 29 December 2015 14: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: yuriy55
    Are not these people robbery rich?
    Protection from court in friends found, in kinship,
    Magnificent building chambers,
    Where are bottled in feasts and revelry

    Yeah ... Smart people say it right. The oligarch in Russia should be alone. More than one, our economy will not survive.
  • unsinkable
    unsinkable 29 December 2015 14: 42 New
    -1
    I won’t talk about anything. I like Putin a hero-bully. good
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 December 2015 17: 31 New
    +4
    Here is the true iron solution of the iron man:
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law abolishing the indexation of pensions for working retirees. The relevant document is published on the official Internet portal of legal information.

    http://www.rg.ru/2015/12/29/pensii-anons.html
  • GraveBezKresta
    GraveBezKresta 29 December 2015 18: 46 New
    +1
    "Путин - железный человек"
    Похоже, уже чугунный. С деревянным рублем и кучей "друзей" - врагов народа...
  • Bjorn
    Bjorn 29 December 2015 19: 27 New
    +1
    I read comments and I can not help but write) Well, you are very demanding everyone.
    Ehh friends ...
    I want to say a lot, but I need to write an entire article, which I unfortunately do not know how.
    You have a great president, believe me, I have someone to compare with. The whole world speaks of yours, they quote it, they watch it with bated breath. He does not leave the screens and pages of all television channels and newspapers.
    But to take at least our penguin, the national nickname of Toomas, well, who will remember him? Last mention - the wife of the president of Estonia was caught by a paparazzi kissing a Frenchman of Arab descent. And now local media are slandering his new darling - a Latvian, with huge debts to banks, which ordinary people will maintain and pay her loans.
    And we see the penguin once a year on TV when he reads out New Year’s speech.
    I will say this about the words of my true Estonian acquaintance, whom we met near the Christmas tree. We have been there for a long time, and their company arrived forty minutes later. So here are his words - Again, our coke fireworks has gluttoned and weighed about an occupation for half an hour.
    So not everything is so bad with you) And Happy New Year Friends !!!
  • Neko75
    Neko75 29 December 2015 19: 36 New
    0
    Quote: sa-ag
    Quote: Gardamir
    Why Putin can not put Navalny, if supposedly Navalny opposition to him?

    Зачем ему сажать такой кадр, когда Навальный проводит при случае работу по дискредитации любого протестного движения - "Не с кем работать будет" (С)

    Liberals sit on the handouts of the West. You have to do something. They do not need an opposition, but a well-fed and calm life, preferably free then.
  • holding
    holding 29 December 2015 20: 17 New
    -5
    Pukin has been driving for 15 years. And it seems that he is on a mission, and the task is for everyone to ride viburnum, in the Crimea, not be able to express their opinion and be silent. A peppy shusher gathered in a slumber. 13 years old they pumped oil, the skolkas built. And how oil has fallen, everything, the threat of discontent of the population, the only way out is Voynushka! Syria, etc. For myself I’ll tell you, hbz it became better to live ...
    But certainly not the majority of Russians. Throw me tomatoes and a rating of minus, for ... t.
    1. Glad
      Glad 29 December 2015 21: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: hoot
      15 years steers Pukin.

      Вы слишком узко смотрите на вопрос, коллега. Я не хочу Вас обидеть, а просто констатирую факт. Такой "войнушки", как в Сирии мало для того, чтобы компенсировать то недовольство, о котором Вы говорите.
      For comparison, Stalin became that Stalin, whose political possibilities are usually taken into account, not in 1924, but after the Victory, in 1945. And before that, he had to maneuver between different forces within the party.
      You want the process of gaining full independence to go faster. I also want to. But alas. Putin is not Harry Potter. He has no magic wands.

      P.S. И, прошу Вас, воздержитесь пожалуйста от словесных конструкций типа "Пукин". Это переход на личности. Обычно его используют люди, у которых нет других аргументов, кроме эмоций.
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  • miland
    miland 29 December 2015 21: 57 New
    0
    Mouzon in the topic:
  • Chak
    Chak 30 December 2015 00: 18 New
    0
    Regarding Nemtsov, who was killed somewhere near the Kremlin ... One must take into account the opinion of British comrades. Let them not be upset, they will bring down the liberals near their embassy, ​​as well as near the embassy of the United States of Matrasia, otherwise you will panicky, the show passed by their windows. But people have already prepared: they got popcorn, Pepsi poured into glasses, and Nemtsov was taken to the Kremlin ...
  • sds87
    sds87 30 December 2015 00: 36 New
    0
    And what kind of news is that Putin and Medvedev were talking with Kudrin? It seems like asking to return ... If this is true, then the scribe fluffy has already bared his teeth and is preparing to jump ...
  • Pictures
    Pictures 30 December 2015 09: 48 New
    0
    > вот уже несколько месяцев российский лидер воюет против «ИГ»

    How long have you blown up houses in Moscow? 15 years have passed, but as if it were yesterday.