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Leonov about a unique rocket for the Buk-M3 and not only

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A unique new missile was created for the Buk-M3 medium-range air defense system, the Russian Service said on air News»Head of the Air Defense Forces of the Ground Forces Alexander Leonov.


Leonov about a unique rocket for the Buk-M3 and not only


“In the transport-launch containers (complex) there are six missiles in each self-propelled firing system. Rockets have become more compact, but, nevertheless, they fly faster, farther and more accurately. That is, a new unique rocket has been created, which will make it more likely to destroy air targets, ”Leonov quotes. TASS.

“The capacity of each installation has increased from four to six channels, which has increased productivity in 1,5 times,” he said.

Earlier it was reported that the "Buk-M3" will be adopted by the end of this year, and in the new year will begin to enter the army.

In addition, "a groundwork has been created to create a promising MANPADS, which will begin to arrive in a few years, and will already be protected from those jamming complexes that have just been developed and are being supplied to equip the advanced countries of the world, primarily from laser interference," he said. .

“The whole line of anti-aircraft missile systems comes to the air defense forces. The C-300B4 complex is unique. It allows you to fight with any means of air attack, including "avaksy", reconnaissance aircraft, jammers, "- said Leonov, answering the corresponding question of the journalist.

“The range of the C-300B4 is up to 350 km,” the general explained.

“Hypersonic air attacks require a completely different approach to the fulfillment of air defense tasks and the development of new systems,” he said.

According to the general, “the C-300B4 complex has two types of missiles, one of them is hypersonic, which allows you to hit ballistic aerial targets on hypersonic.”
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  1. The black
    The black 27 December 2015 13: 33 New
    51
    I hope that from the "created" to accepted into service will be the shortest possible time. smile
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 13: 35 New
      51
      Quote: Black
      I hope that from the "created" to accepted into service will be the shortest possible time. smile

      Can you read? Although, if you write, you know how. smile So here is a quote from the article "Earlier it was reported that" Buk-M3 " will be adopted by the end of this year, and in the new year will begin to enter the troops "
      Our air defense is traditionally pleasing - after all, the strongest in the world, which no one disputes.
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 December 2015 14: 52 New
        +7
        “A whole line of anti-aircraft missile systems enters the air defense forces. The S-300V4 complex is unique. It allows you to deal with any means of air attack, including Avax, reconnaissance aircraft, jammers, ”said Leonov, answering the journalist’s corresponding question.


        Re-equipment is in progress not so fast, but it is progressing even somewhere somewhere ahead of plans.
        1. Platonich
          Platonich 27 December 2015 16: 28 New
          +7
          From this, my soul somehow warms up !!!
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 27 December 2015 21: 01 New
            +3
            It will become warmer when numerous gaps in the defense are closed, even in the USSR the entire territory did not overlap (and it was unrealistic). For any good news, the old complexes need to be modernized.
            Quote: Platonitch
            From this, my soul somehow warms up !!!
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. seti
        seti 27 December 2015 14: 53 New
        33
        Faced the opinion that everything connected with Buki, Torah and other "outdated systems" should be allowed to re-melting. Mistake dear. Modernization, innovative technologies, new types of missiles, increased crew training and further planned re-equipment of all units on time. No need to invent an elephant - these systems will serve in the new conditions for a very long time. After such modernizations, they only remotely resemble themselves - in reality, this is something completely new. At times increased efficiency. Why spend a rocket in tens or even hundreds of thousands. Enough to spend 5 thousand. The main thing is that the result is guaranteed to be the same - the enemy is shot down and fried where it should.
      4. aksakal
        aksakal 27 December 2015 14: 57 New
        +8
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        here is a quote from the article “It was previously reported that the Buk-M3 will be adopted by the end of this year, and will begin to enter the army in the new year”
        - Assad after the settlement in Syria is the most. Israel will not be able to establish long-range air defense systems, because the whole territory of Israel is covered by such a complex, but Buk-M3 is just what you need. And afford Syria, because long-range air defense systems in addition to redundancy for Syria is also very expensive.
        1. Viking
          Viking 27 December 2015 16: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: aksakal
          Israel will not be able to establish long-range air defense systems, because the whole territory of Israel is covered by such a complex

          A long-range air defense systems (S-300VM) are available there from another neighbor of Israel - Egypt.
          1. remy
            remy 27 December 2015 18: 16 New
            33
            The S-300V4 air defense team is,
            2 regiments of 2 battalions of 4 batteries = 16 batteries
            Battery:
            1 launcher with 2 9M82MV missiles with a range of 385 km.
            2 launchers with 4 9M83M missiles with a range of 200 km.
            + 1 ROM with 2 9M82MV
            + 2 ROMs with 4 9M83M
            We get to the volley! 385 km in range, 185 km in altitude. - 64 missiles 9M82MV
            Well, and against aerodynamic targets - 256 9M83M missiles
            Total: 320 SAM in salvo!
            + 2 ACS Polyana D4M1, give target designation for 450 targets at a time! and keep 1000 more in mind.
            + 2 Sky-IED radars with a range of 600 km.
            1. goose
              goose 28 December 2015 11: 35 New
              +1
              While the Israelis have the Golan Heights, it makes no sense to install S-300 installations against Israel. Medium-range with minimum altitude - yes, it is necessary.
              Against the northern neighbor with the ambitions of the Sultan, the S-300 will be effective. In general, Syria was “lucky” with its neighbors - all strong armies and air forces.
        2. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 28 December 2015 12: 11 New
          0
          ..... here the Buk-M3 is just what you need. And afford Syria, because long-range air defense systems in addition to redundancy for Syria is also very expensive .....


          ..... It bribes that it is mobile - it is not tied to a guidance station (as far as I understand it is individual) .... And this is important .... lol
      5. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 28 December 2015 09: 58 New
        +1
        If so, then the level of our air defense will increase significantly, and if ours have already announced the presence of hypersonic missiles - this is a very serious argument !!!!!!!!
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 27 December 2015 13: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Black
      the shortest time will pass before being adopted.

      They can be adopted relatively quickly. The main question is at what pace the production of such complexes will be carried out.
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 13: 49 New
      16
      There is such an indicator as "target hit efficiency", at Buk-M2E it is 0,6-0,7, if it was raised to 0.95, or close - then this is a huge achievement! sorry did not bring the exact numbers ...
      in amers, the effectiveness of hitting a target on the best samples is 0.6 - 0.5 ...
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 27 December 2015 14: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        There is such an indicator as "target hit efficiency", at Buk-M2E it is 0,6-0,7, if it was raised to 0.95, or close - then this is a huge achievement! sorry did not bring the exact numbers ...

        If by the effectiveness of hitting a target, you mean (as it really is) the effectiveness of hitting a target with one missile in the range of 0,6 - 0,7 (which is why it was practiced launching two missiles at once for one target), then by "increasing the performance of the complex 1,5 times, "the increase in this efficiency is not also implied, also 1,5 times higher - i.e. up to 0,95. This refers to an increase in the number of missiles at the launcher, and how much more accurately these missiles will hit the target is not mentioned.
        1. martin-159
          martin-159 27 December 2015 14: 55 New
          +3
          “The capacity of each installation has increased from four to six channels, which has increased productivity in 1,5 times,” he said.
        2. Denis Obukhov
          Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 15: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          There is such an indicator as "target hit efficiency", at Buk-M2E it is 0,6-0,7, if it was raised to 0.95, or close - then this is a huge achievement! sorry did not bring the exact numbers ...

          If by the effectiveness of hitting a target, you mean (as it really is) the effectiveness of hitting a target with one missile in the range of 0,6 - 0,7 (which is why it was practiced launching two missiles at once for one target), then by "increasing the performance of the complex 1,5 times, "the increase in this efficiency is not also implied, also 1,5 times higher - i.e. up to 0,95. This refers to an increase in the number of missiles at the launcher, and how much more accurately these missiles will hit the target is not mentioned.



          There is one. several times it slipped from the military that our performance characteristics of their weapons are underestimated, the Americans - their performance characteristics are overestimated. Whatever the coefficient for reliability, there are always two consumption .. no need to save on matches ..;)
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 27 December 2015 15: 52 New
            +4
            Quote: Denis Obukhov
            There is one. several times it slipped from the military that our performance characteristics of their weapons are underestimated, the Americans - their performance characteristics are overestimated. Whatever the coefficient for reliability, there are always two consumption .. no need to save on matches ..;)

            Do not underestimate. I talked with one of the designers of Klab .., they came to us when the Indians on the 877s started to install them, from his words .. The performance characteristics are real, but for the most severe conditions. For example, the stylet flew 2k more than prescribed in its performance characteristics.
            1. My address
              My address 27 December 2015 17: 07 New
              18
              Quite possible. I know a little about how the electronics were tested in the USSR. Indeed, there were "our microchips are the biggest microchips in the world". But on the other hand, they withstood the mechano-thermo-X-ray chemical chemistry, it was a mockery, i.e. reliability was much higher than amerovskie. For example, the electronics F-111, obtained in 70-s from Vietnam, could not pass with us even only mechanical tests.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 27 December 2015 17: 37 New
                18
                Quote: My address
                Indeed, there were "our chips are the largest chips in the world."

                - switched to import - and the result is obvious. There is no way to decrypt the black box from the SU-24 bomber, everything is ruined there. Who watched the opening of the black box - he saw how the specialists after opening just became hardened by what was installed in this box. "Mat, but everything is done here! Again mat!". On the WorldCrisis website, one special said that there is only one Soviet chip, the largest in this box, but from gold, so it is one and the whole, the rest of the chips are well.
                I think maybe stop laughing at the size, and resume their release? And even the black boxes no longer fulfill what they are supposed to do, but what if such chips are in combat units? It can refuse at the right time!
              2. mav1971
                mav1971 28 December 2015 20: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: My address
                Quite possible. I know a little about how the electronics were tested in the USSR. Indeed, there were "our microchips are the biggest microchips in the world". But on the other hand, they withstood the mechano-thermo-X-ray chemical chemistry, it was a mockery, i.e. reliability was much higher than amerovskie. For example, the electronics F-111, obtained in 70-s from Vietnam, could not pass with us even only mechanical tests.


                Something we have different opinions.
                As far as I know, during the standard application of the F-111, namely flight in the mode of enveloping the terrain, the airplane is subject to constant overloads. And the shaking is very strong. especially where such a flight is needed. In hilly and mountainous terrain.
                And their electronics allowed it.
                and besides, during the tests, the “pigs” during automatic flight with envelope relief reached speeds 1.2M at an altitude of 60-80 meters.
                And ours were not able to implement a similar flight mode. Just because of the electronics and its mechanical strength.
                Something like that! :)
        3. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 27 December 2015 16: 23 New
          0
          Quote: SRC P-15
          then by “increasing the productivity of the complex by 1,5 times" is not meant to increase this efficiency, also by 1,5 times - i.e. up to 0,95. This refers to an increase in the number of missiles at the launcher, and how much more accurately these missiles will hit the target is not mentioned.

          Not professionally familiar with air defense systems. The nominal consumption of missiles for the 1st target of the 2nd missile? And is the norm different from the types of air defense systems?
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 27 December 2015 17: 30 New
            +6
            Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
            Not professionally familiar with air defense systems. The nominal consumption of missiles for the 1st target of the 2nd missile? And is the norm different from the types of air defense systems?

            I can’t say for sure about modern systems, but when I was at the S-125, there was such a standard. If I’m not mistaken, then on the early S-300 missiles consumption was also up to two for one target.
        4. aksakal
          aksakal 27 December 2015 17: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: SRC P-15
          the effectiveness of hitting a target with one missile in the range of 0,6 - 0,7
          - not enough? Such efficiency is acceptable for long-range air-to-air missiles, but for stationary air defense systems ... the S-0,9 always had, and in general at exhibitions during demonstration firing, the target was hit by the very first missile.

          Here was the S-200 complex at live firing in Sary-Shagan, and all our calculations were always struck by the first and only missile.
          Perhaps wrong.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 27 December 2015 17: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: aksakal
            the effectiveness of hitting a target with one missile in the range of 0,6 - 0,7 - is not enough? Such efficiency is acceptable for long-range air-to-air missiles, but for stationary air defense systems ... S-0,9 always had,

            The coefficient 0,6 - 0,7 is not my statement, but a visitor under the nickname "Denis Obukhov". The S-300 has a coefficient of 0,9 - you are right here. But they are aimed at the target, anyway two missiles, if the first does not destroy the target, then the second starts automatically, in the latest upgrades a transition to manual control is possible. If someone corrects me, I will be very grateful.
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 27 December 2015 21: 30 New
            0
            Not much, of course.
            By aerodynamic purpose Buk M3 - 0,99
          3. KVIRTU
            KVIRTU 28 December 2015 08: 26 New
            0
            I would say the expense is determined by the senior manager for the situation, com. a regiment, for example, or a division commander, if one acts autonomously.

            And so, from practice, I saw an expense of 6 (!) At the training ground, though for the Wasp division, and on finishing off the Flight target (Tu-143 UAV), which left both the 200th and the 300th, although it was damaged, the autopilot refused, didn’t want to parachute in the right place (those had 2 consumption, because the target height was up to 1000).
            What drones did in the 70s!
        5. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 27 December 2015 18: 51 New
          +7
          Quote: SRC P-15
          "1,5 times increase in complex productivity" does not mean an increase in this efficiency, also 1,5 times - i.e. up to 0,95. This refers to an increase in the number of missiles at the launcher
          If memory does not change, then the fire performance of the SAM system is the number of targets fired at per unit time. Usually take in a minute. Judging by the fact that the rocket was hidden in the TPK, the influence of the Shtil-1 ship system is strong here.
          The use of 9M317M missiles and vertical launch launchers gave the air defense system a completely new quality. The fire performance of the air defense system significantly increased, the rate of fire increased (the launch of each missile can be carried out every 1-2 seconds instead of 12 seconds for a single-beam oblique launcher of the Uragan air defense system), the reaction time, weight and dimensions of the complex decreased ...
          I think the "vertical configuration" of the air defense system will be the main one during the modernization of the EM 956 ave.
          1. Wajra-3
            Wajra-3 29 December 2015 08: 13 New
            0
            The complex in all respects becomes universal. By the principle: Wherever I want, I’ll put it there.
      2. castle
        castle 27 December 2015 14: 53 New
        -2
        Dear Denis Obukhov!
        Let’s immediately discard such concepts as “if,” “if yes, if,” and “what if.” For a serious server "topwar.ru" such concepts are not suitable!
        You write that the “effectiveness of hitting a target" in Buk-M2E is 0,6-0,7, and for "amers" the effectiveness of hitting a target on the best samples is 0.6 - 0.5. Is that what you mean? "Minus 0,6"? The more Americans shoot, the less they hit? Just inattention when writing a comment or ...?
        Did you take this information about the “effectiveness of hitting the target” from open sources that always lie, or from secret documents of both the Russian and the United States of America (is your statement fraught with recognition of treason or recognition of espionage)? Or, God forbid, the data on the "effectiveness of hitting the target" you took from the brochures of manufacturers? Or from statements by representatives of the Moscow Region?
        1. avdkrd
          avdkrd 28 December 2015 03: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: hrad
          - 0.6 - 0.5. Is that what you mean? "Minus 0,6"? The more Americans shoot, the less they hit? Just inattention when writing a comment or ...?

          Sorry, but your comment is pure populist (drawing attention to the insignificant). Everyone understood that the first “-" was used as a dash.
          If you have other TTX data (not from open sources), then either bother to provide them, or give a logical refutation. Everything else is demagogy.
          PS in the last sentence was a dash.
      3. PVOSV
        PVOSV 29 December 2015 09: 39 New
        0
        Initially, the Buk 9K37 military air defense system was intended to combat aerodynamic targets in the conditions of radio countermeasures and, in the future, with Lance ballistic missiles.
        The probability of defeat (one SAM) for the Buk 9K37:
        fighter 0,8., 0,9
        Helicopter 0,3., 0,6
        cruise missile 0,25., 0,5
        Buk-M2E has the probability of hitting targets with one missile:
        tactical aircraft and helicopters 0,9 – 0.95
        tactical ballistic missiles 0,6 – 0,7
        http://topwar.ru/83497-.html
        There are changes.
    4. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 27 December 2015 14: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Black
      I hope that from the "created" to accepted into service will be the shortest possible time. smile

      There’s no need to talk much: things speak for themselves. Military engineers are doing their best, perfecting Russian weapons, so that there are no analogues in the world. Well, Minister of Defense S. Shoigu correctly put the emphasis, trying to increase the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the country. After all, the military power of Russia is the guarantee of peace for our people!
    5. TsUS-Air Force
      TsUS-Air Force 27 December 2015 16: 51 New
      -7
      and we hope that there will be no crude and not suitable as a boulder or first yars!
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 27 December 2015 19: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: NOC-VVS
        will not be raw and not suitable as a boulder or first yars!
        Yes, it seems that all childhood diseases were behind and the last launches of the Bulava were successful, even with volley fire of 2 ICBMs on November 14th. 2015 from the board of the APRK "Vladimir Monomakh". Judging by the video, the rate of fire is 5 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svdgop5D4wU
    6. nemets
      nemets 27 December 2015 19: 29 New
      0
      It would be desirable, time and so to spare
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 20: 55 New
      +8
      Upgrading only missiles is much cheaper than developing the entire complex. “Buk M3” slowly gets into the “zone” C 300, “Tor” into the zone “Buka”, “Carapace” into the zone “Torah”! Directly "Faster, Higher, Stronger." It seems to me that the breakthrough occurred in the energy of fuel for solid rockets, on which new achievements are based .. This allowed us to reduce the weight of warheads and increase the amount of fuel. The probability of hitting the target became 99.999, if not mistaken.


      Even the ultralight "Willow" has increased the ceiling to 4.5 km!

      clickable.
    8. Reducer
      Reducer 28 December 2015 08: 24 New
      0
      Google complex S-300B4, we get:
      12.03.2012
      The Russian Ministry of Defense has signed a contract with the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern for the supply of S-300B4 anti-aircraft missile systems, Interfax reports citing a representative of the military department. The agreement is designed for three years. The source of the agency did not specify how many total complexes the Ministry of Defense bought, but noted that the Southern Military District would receive the first three divisions of S-300B4.
      The concluded contract provides for the payment of an advance to Almaz-Antei and its contractors in the amount of 80 percent of the total cost of the agreement. What kind of amount is involved in the contract is also not reported ...
      S-300V4 complexes, called by some sources "Vityaz" (?!?!?) ...
      ... In 2011, the Russian army will be equipped with a new high-performance modification of the S-300 - S-300B4 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM), the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry said. This SAM model has performance characteristics that exceed the capabilities of the previous modification - S-300V3 - 1,5-2,3 times ...
      source http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/S-300V4.html
      Rhetorical question: NU And ???
      ps: what kind of wild photoshop in the article? really really "Used photos:" Almaz-Antey ""
  2. My address
    My address 27 December 2015 13: 41 New
    +6
    Simply put, they are engaged not only in creating new systems, but also in “pulling up” those already in service.
    This is the optimal solution, which allows a fairly high degree, without failures at the time of rearmament, to support air defense / missile defense. Everywhere would be so, incl. in the whole industry. Thank God that the idiotic postulate of Egor Daidar and other Chubais is not applied to the defense - "the market organizes everything."
  3. The black
    The black 27 December 2015 13: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    will be adopted by the end of this year,

    there will be some difference between WILL BE ACCEPTED and ACCEPTED, especially since there is nothing left before the end of this year wink
  4. NIKNN
    NIKNN 27 December 2015 13: 45 New
    +2
    According to the general, “the S-300V4 complex has two types of missiles, one of them is hypersonic

    How many grandmas have thrown into the hypersound and still thunder, but just a rocket costing 1000 orders of magnitude less and ... request
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2015 14: 39 New
      +3
      Hypersonic aircraft and missiles have a future, so let the attendants swell it.
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  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 13: 50 New
    +2
    So here you are, the killer of the "Peaceful American Bombers Bearing Democracy" ™!

    ... in the instructions, the addition in small print - "... to achieve a high-quality result, use in combination with the preparations" S-300 "," Shell C1, "Krasuha", "Mercury", "Carpool."
  7. 23424636
    23424636 27 December 2015 13: 56 New
    +1
    I want one at least one real goal from 82 years old and all are just targets. They asked Yugi the “Ural tracker”, striped with the French, to click but the paid agent, to whom the country's enemies built another Ulyanovsk hut, was afraid.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 27 December 2015 19: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: 23424636
      They asked Yugi the “Ural tracker”, striped with the French, to click but the paid agent, to whom the country's enemies built another Ulyanovsk hut, was afraid.

      He was just "very worried, you see" for its distribution on the planet! They would have beaten the “warriors” of striped and frogmen over the South, look, and democracy would have stalled for a while ... And this is terrible damage for the advocates of this democracy itself.
      HER, would not have been allowed to do so by the 200 counselors-crusaders who sat in their offices and waved the hand of our homegrown reformers-privatizers. bully
  8. Butt
    Butt 27 December 2015 13: 58 New
    +3
    The S-300V4 complex is unique. It allows you to deal with any means of air attack, including Avax, reconnaissance aircraft, jammers »
    They will well train EW KRET and confirm our advantages in practice. How are the technical characteristics of EW in combat use and tactics of influence on the "partners" implemented? If not worse than Khibiny by D. Cook, then forward and with the song!
    It would be nice to try the S-300B4 complex to cover our pilots and airfields in Syria. And then they reported on NATO’s readiness to send the German Avaks to Turkey.
  9. OlegV
    OlegV 27 December 2015 14: 01 New
    +5
    Tests of the Buk-M2 SAM:



    Military engineers are doing their best, perfecting Russian weapons, so that there are no analogues in the world. Well, Minister of Defense S. Shoigu correctly put the emphasis, trying to increase the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the country. After all, the military power of Russia is the guarantee of peace for our people!



    More information about air defense systems is here. http://nevskii-bastion.ru/buk-m3/
    1. remy
      remy 27 December 2015 18: 20 New
      +3
      SAM Buk-M3 transport and loading machine 12 missiles
    2. PVOSV
      PVOSV 29 December 2015 09: 58 New
      0
      interesting cutting, especially off-screen commentator delivers on 1-09 laughing
  10. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 27 December 2015 14: 01 New
    +4
    It’s like the golden age of missiles has come ... you don’t have time to digest the information .. Under a good umbrella and the soldier is comfortable
    1. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 27 December 2015 14: 07 New
      +3
      The main thing in NATE is the age of frustration. The question constantly hangs: is it worth it? And how at the same time is not about.
  11. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 December 2015 14: 11 New
    +4
    More and more often news about new complexes appeared; the aliens shared technologies in any way (just kidding). And here’s another new pzrk-“willow” complex that was just taken into service, and this is the miracles of design thought.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2015 14: 42 New
      +1
      We made a willow based on the NEEDLE - we quickly tested and accepted it.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 December 2015 14: 42 New
      -26
      These are not aliens, but the American company Raytheon (Rayzion) drives everyone.
      (Aegis system, Standard Missile SM-2, SM-3 missiles)
      She is now the world leader in air defense / missile defense.
      Sometimes she shares technology herself, sometimes she has hackers
      borrow technology and ideas ... One way or another, it sets the pace. crying
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 December 2015 14: 58 New
        +4
        I agree that in the new beech they made it convenient to store missiles, reload in a package, and put new electronics. in the USA it is necessary to adopt the communication of different systems into one complex, this is why they are strong. To hit the target in one area of ​​work was not.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 27 December 2015 19: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Zaurbek
          in the USA it is necessary to adopt the communication of different systems into one complex, this is why they are strong. To hit the target in one area of ​​work was not.

          Respected! The fleet has already mastered this at the Shtil-1 ZKR, Polement-Redoute ... I believe that we will not stop there. yes
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 December 2015 14: 58 New
        0
        I agree that in the new beech they made it convenient to store missiles, reload in a package, and put new electronics. in the USA it is necessary to adopt the communication of different systems into one complex, this is why they are strong. To hit the target in one area of ​​work was not.
      3. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 27 December 2015 16: 35 New
        0
        On the high banks of the Amur
        http://alex-anpilogov.livejournal.com/109887.html
        There and about SOI even.
      4. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 27 December 2015 16: 35 New
        0
        On the high banks of the Amur
        http://alex-anpilogov.livejournal.com/109887.html
        There and about SOI even.
      5. ML-334
        ML-334 27 December 2015 17: 55 New
        0
        Not a company, but some sort of entrance yard.
      6. aksakal
        aksakal 27 December 2015 20: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        customize all the American company Raytheon (Rayzion).

        - which is released by Mr. ... obviously under the name "Patriot" developed? Nu-nu, world leader in air defense laughing laughing laughing
        The rockets themselves are at the level, I do not argue, there is still an unsolved technology of kinetic interception, but this is all that this Revision has in its assets, and this does not make it a leader in air defense / missile defense in any way, just the number of the best companies in the world, and then with a stretch
      7. Reducer
        Reducer 28 December 2015 13: 33 New
        0
        I don’t know how Ration shares the info, but I’m not averse to poking it myself - that's for sure!
      8. tezey
        tezey 28 December 2015 16: 47 New
        +1
        Let's be frank. Not a company, cool, by the way, drives everyone, but the decisions of the American government. Without the decisions of the US leadership, there would be no Standard Missile. Now essentially. In terms of missile technology SM-2, SM-3 are certainly advanced in the field of interception of medium and short-range missiles and possibly for SM-3 to intercept individual ICBM head units on the final flight path. However, and most importantly, SM-3 has the ability to destroy satellites in low orbits. The deployment of this system essentially changes the strategic balance between nuclear powers with satellites in low orbits, and these are military satellites. So it gave a similar deployment for the United States. Can there be confidence in their superiority and invulnerability? Not at all. The security of the United States and its space grouping has not increased, but rather worsened. There is no secret that the PRC has already tested its anti-satellite weapons, and Russia will soon adopt even more advanced S-500 complex than Aegis. In addition, it will follow race to replace expensive satellites with new ones capable of recognizing an attack and maneuvering away from missiles. No dear, Raytheon does not manage to be in the undisputed leaders. And it is worth remembering the Russian proverb, for every tricky w-y, there is x with a screw.
      9. jasorgho
        jasorgho 29 December 2015 17: 24 New
        0
        @voyaka_uh, I do not agree with you
        missiles about a little on other principles: firstly, there is a kinetic defeat of the target (which is generally unique);
        further they are capable of intercepting only ballistic targets at a height of at least 60 km;
        they do not take into account multiple warheads, and effectively intercept missiles in the initial slow section of the trajectory. so that the spread of technology from the MISLs standards was allegedly affecting the regimental air defense designed to deal with low-flying and maneuverable targets.
        all the more so, western air defenses of this class traditionally lag behind in characteristics, first of all everything is poured into aviation as an air defense system.

        By the way, your dome is a very interesting system and trophies, but they are not designed for interference
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 December 2015 14: 11 New
    +8
    Obviously, our chemists have made a “breakthrough” in solid fuel energy. Otherwise, there are no options for such a mass production of new missiles with unique characteristics in range and speed. The point is clearly not only in the "electronic stuffing." Even the ultralight "Willow" raised the ceiling by a kilometer!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 27 December 2015 14: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Obviously, our chemists have made a “breakthrough” in solid fuel energy.

      Yes! Most likely they switched to octogen.
  13. NordUral
    NordUral 27 December 2015 14: 19 New
    +3
    Success! Separated air defense and missile defense is the most important area of ​​our air defense from missiles of various types to aviation.
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 December 2015 14: 37 New
    +1
    It seems like such missiles go to the new "Calm", no?
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 27 December 2015 16: 07 New
      +1
      Well, how to "look" .... SAMs for Buk-M3 air defense systems have the index 9М317М (х); that is, a whole "series" of missiles was developed. Basically, these missiles can be identified on 2 "groups": with semi-active and active radar "homing" heads. For most modifications, an inclined launch is provided, but there is also a vertical launch. A number of "sources" state that the 9М317МЭ rocket for the Shtil-1 naval air defense system is from this "series".
  15. okroshka79
    okroshka79 27 December 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    Dear SRC P-15! You are not quite right. The fact is that a larger number of missiles ready for launch at a launcher increases the chances of multiple shelling of the same target. And then the likelihood of her defeat increases. For example, when firing a target with two missiles, the probability of which is W1, the probability of hitting the target will be W2 = 1- (1-W1) x (1-W1).
  16. ovod84
    ovod84 27 December 2015 14: 57 New
    0
    In short, it’s clear that there is a strengthening and modernization of air defense and this is good. I just get confused about beech and armor, about their mission.
  17. podgornovea
    podgornovea 27 December 2015 15: 06 New
    +1
    The increased channelity of Buk-M3 as well as the increased ammunition are very “useful” for massive Kyrgyz air raids, which is what our “sworn friends” from the West like to do.
    Io what is needed.
  18. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 15: 12 New
    +4
    The main thing is to save the BUK-M3 school! Apparently, this school is an extremely necessary combination of operational and strategic air defense !!!
  19. doework
    doework 27 December 2015 15: 18 New
    +1
    nice to read, cheers to military engineers! keep it up and don't stop!
  20. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 27 December 2015 16: 13 New
    +2
    Such news is encouraging.
  21. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 27 December 2015 16: 13 New
    +1
    But what is increased channelism, do you even know? What is it for? It's interesting to just read the calculations of respected experts.
  22. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 December 2015 16: 28 New
    +4
    It mentioned the S-300B4 air defense system. But about this SAM, I do not understand everything. Somehow I came across such data that the latest modifications of the 9M82 / 83 missiles with "final indexation" -M1? Or M2? possess "range" to 350 km. It was this fact that served to make a decision on the resumption of production of C-300В4 complexes; For a long time I could not solve the problems with the 40Н6 missile for the S-400 air defense system. I recently tried again to find the mentioned data on the S-300В4 air defense system ...... and .... I did not find anything about the 9M82 / 83 (M1? / M2?), But a link appeared that С-300В4 will use the 40Н6 rocket of the C-400 complex.
  23. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 December 2015 16: 39 New
    +2
    It often seems that our rocket designers are working wonders. Perhaps this area of ​​military equipment is simply charging with work, a very interesting direction. Behind is the country.
  24. tanit
    tanit 27 December 2015 16: 53 New
    -12
    Leonov ... And what else did Kimlyuzhinov say?
    We admire the words of those who personally and closely interacted with aliens?
    The main thing is to say it right and on time, and it doesn’t matter anymore that the roommate Napoleon says the same.
    For those who are not in the know. Leonov has long and far and deeply gone mad. With all due respect to him, this uncle has ceased (for a long time) to be friends with brains. hi
    We smile and wave. (Penguins, from the south of Africa, the island is there)
  25. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 27 December 2015 16: 55 New
    +2
    This is great, which means that industry is starting to catch up with the Wishlist of the military, whom they lost in the dashing 80s and 90s.
  26. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 27 December 2015 17: 03 New
    +1
    According to the commander in chief, in the near future the arrival of the S-500 in the territory of the Arab Republic is expected.

    Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/600621#ixzz3vWu2QpsL

    Is this true or idle talk?
    1. tanit
      tanit 27 December 2015 17: 28 New
      0
      Hmm .. if from Leonov something chatter hi
      Everything else can be true.
      1. barsik92090
        barsik92090 27 December 2015 19: 41 New
        0
        For harmful talk in the field of defense, it is necessary to excommunicate from access to the Internet.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 December 2015 19: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Good AAAH
      According to the commander in chief, in the near future the arrival of the S-500 in the territory of the Arab Republic is expected.

      Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/600621#ixzz3vWu2QpsL

      Is this true or idle talk?

      Firstly, even your link says that the aerospace forces are awaiting the arrival of the S-500 (just the receipt, there is no question about the ATS), and secondly, the S-500 is only EXPECTED in 2016.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 27 December 2015 20: 29 New
        0
        Firstly, even your link says that the aerospace forces are awaiting the arrival of the S-500 (just the receipt, there is no question about the ATS), and secondly, the S-500 is only EXPECTED in 2016.

        Like this? And where did I copy about the Arab Republic? Maybe it's some other, not ATS?

        Russian Aerospace Forces cleaned up the sky over Syria thanks to the S-400

        According to the commander in chief, in the near future the arrival of the S-500 in the territory of the Arab Republic is expected.


        Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/600621#ixzz3vXimHeGp

        Immediately after the headline.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 27 December 2015 20: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Good AAAH
          Like this? And where did I copy about the Arab Republic? Maybe it's some other, not ATS?

          Well, a dumb journalist writes "according to ...", and further in the text: "... the S-400 is a reliable defense of the air borders, and at the moment the VSK of the Russian Federation is awaiting the arrival of the S-500." If you understand in Russian, then this videoconferencing will receive the S-500, but there’s nothing about the delivery to the ATS. request Although the text also says VSK. laughing I don’t know what it is, maybe a military construction company. smile
        2. wolk71
          wolk71 27 December 2015 20: 50 New
          +5
          According to the commander in chief, in the near future the arrival of the S-500 in the territory of the Arab Republic is expected.

          Order in the skies over Syria was restored thanks to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system, delivered to the territory of the Arab Republic to strengthen the Khmeimim air base on November 26, said Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces Viktor Bondarev.

          According to him, the S-400 is a reliable defense of the air borders, and at the moment, the VSK of the Russian Federation is awaiting the arrival of the S-500. In addition, the Tu-160 White Swan bomber will be presented in a new configuration in the near future, he added.

          Bondarev also noted that Russian pilots have never attacked civilian targets in Syria, reports TASS.

          “I want to say with dignity that during my entire stay there my pilots never missed, never struck at“ forbidden ”objects, the so-called“ sensitive places ”- these are schools, hospitals, mosques, other holy places” “He said, adding that the operation was carefully thought out.

          Russia made the decision to transfer the latest S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria after Turkey shot down the Russian Su-24 bomber. The incident occurred on November 24. The Su-24, which was carrying out a combat mission as part of the fight against Daesh, was shot down by a Turkish F16 fighter near the border with Turkey. However, the Turkish military still deny that the Russian plane did not violate the borders of the country's airspace.
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  27. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 27 December 2015 17: 22 New
    0
    There is an escalation of tension. Bulgarian media.

    Miroslav Lazanski, a Serbian military analyst and candidate for secretary of defense announced shocking information to write to balkanspress.com. According to him, from eavesdropping on a conversation between NATO officers it became clear that "it will be in the near future, on Thursday." Lazanski was supposedly in a luxury hotel in the Austrian capital, where there was also an informal meeting of senior NATO officers. He was next to a group of them and overheard fragments of conversation during the next major military conflicts in the world.


    http://www.blitz.bg/news/article/382925

    New Year's, drunken joke, and he disheveled?
  28. tanit
    tanit 27 December 2015 17: 36 New
    0
    That's about Anal Whiners .... Serbian, Montenegrin, Bulgarian and other Greek "brothers" - maybe not. Its enough. Even in.
  29. vair
    vair 27 December 2015 18: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: Platonitch
    From this, my soul somehow warms up !!!

    And the "partners" - gets colder wassat
  30. BOB044
    BOB044 27 December 2015 19: 43 New
    +3
    There are brains and hands in our defense industry. So we are happy and the enemies are afraid. hi
  31. Manul
    Manul 27 December 2015 21: 19 New
    0
    The first two sentences are wonderful. But not enough. The rest is all superfluous and far-fetched, such as not only two notorious phrases. I directly and don’t know what to plus, and what to discuss. Thanks to the people who managed to tell something about the main topic, continue and develop the discussion, which is interesting to read. But for such modest informative news, you can express a loud fi. Of course, I can’t put a minus, but a respected author ... Instead of an article, you can do just one name ..
  32. LPD17
    LPD17 27 December 2015 22: 19 New
    0
    Your idle talk is empty.
    Until she works on a flight or someone else whom Assad did not call into the sky of Syria, all this blah blah blah ........
  33. afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 December 2015 22: 25 New
    +1
    All kinds of beeches are needed, all kinds of beeches are important! good
  34. litus
    litus 27 December 2015 23: 06 New
    0
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Yes, it seems that all childhood diseases were behind and the last launches of the Bulava were successful, even with volley fire of 2 ICBMs on November 14th. 2015 from the board of the APRK "Vladimir Monomakh"


    I read somewhere that there were still comments on one of the two missiles at the final stage of the flight
  35. Garis
    Garis 28 December 2015 05: 21 New
    0
    So I want to say - "welcome" brothers in mind ... lol
  36. Wolka
    Wolka 28 December 2015 05: 52 New
    0
    time is urgent, this product immediately to the troops ...
  37. solovey
    solovey 28 December 2015 07: 45 New
    0
    the main thing that would have time to rearm !!!
  38. please
    please 28 December 2015 08: 29 New
    0
    / All this is good, enthusiasm rolls over. How about the material and technical supply of existing complexes and new ones? In terms of repair base is changing?
  39. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 28 December 2015 10: 50 New
    0
    “The range of the C-300B4 is up to 350 km,” the general explained.
    But interestingly, AWACS at what range does it work? Will there be enough of these "up to 350 km" to land it?
  40. Gadfly
    Gadfly 28 December 2015 11: 47 New
    +1
    BUK has the very first probability of 0.7-0.8 on the plane. and for a single non-maneuvering plane and helicopter, only 1 missile was considered. When maneuvering and in interference 2. The launch interval of at least 2-3 s during the maneuver of the target was increased by calculation.