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Chemezov: the number of helicopters produced in the country today is comparable to the volume of the Soviet period

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The Russian defense industry has increased the production of helicopters, and this year it reached volumes comparable to the Soviet ones, reports RIA News statement of the general director of "Rostec" Sergey Chemezov.


Chemezov: the number of helicopters produced in the country today is comparable to the volume of the Soviet period


“Essentially, yes. Because today here is the Mi-8 or, if we talk about the military version, then the Mi-171 is the most popular model, the most common. We have it almost all over the world - from Latin America to Africa, ”said Chemezov, answering a journalist’s question on the program“ News on Saturday ”.

“Currently, Russia produces about 300 helicopters per year. In addition, the process of import substitution of helicopter engines previously supplied by Ukraine is actively underway, ”he said.

“We have already created our own engine, BK2500, already this year we produce about 30 units, although we need 300. But, I think that next year we will already be closer to 200, ”Chemezov said.

The agency reminds that earlier, before the breakdown of military technical ties with Ukraine, the TV3-117 / VK-2500 engines were supplied by the Ukrainian enterprise Motor Sich.

Help Agency: “Rostec is a Russian state-owned corporation established in 2007 year to promote the development, production and export of high-tech industrial products. The corporation includes 15 industry holding companies (including Russian Helicopters, United Engine Corporation, Kalashnikov, etc.), 32 direct management organizations and 14 infrastructure organizations. ”
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Press Service of the Holding "Helicopters of Russia"
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 27 December 2015 12: 37 New
    10
    Hard to believe ... But if the truth is, then God!
    1. cniza
      cniza 27 December 2015 12: 40 New
      15
      God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.
      1. dauria
        dauria 27 December 2015 12: 51 New
        56
        God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.


        Arseniev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... came out at 900 per month. Once we got a board for the new year in Arseniev - there was such a parking lot at the factory, they even asked us to fly around an unpainted board and sign acts (something with a premium there). So far from the USSR. 300 per year is the capacity of one plant. You know, women collected helicopters at the Sazykin plant. A bow to those workers. There were no complaints about cars for a couple of years ...
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 13: 03 New
          32
          Quote: dauria
          came out at 900 per month

          Per month?! Oh, what for No.
          1. aktanir
            aktanir 27 December 2015 13: 13 New
            -9
            helicopters are good - reliable, I won’t believe about comparability, it’s too early to dream about it if they just haven’t compared with any year 1966)) At the same time, very little is done to improve the appearance of the helicopter - all models over the past 30-40 years look like one, but not very good in the current conditions, when priority is given to the beauty, aesthetics and personal convenience of the crew and passengers.
            1. Pilot
              Pilot 27 December 2015 15: 08 New
              10
              Quote: aktanir
              when beauty is given priority

              I think of reliability, functionality and price. Then it’s beautiful to paint and at least to nickel. :) Yes, and the design is an amateur.
            2. Koshak
              Koshak 27 December 2015 22: 20 New
              +3
              Quote: aktanir
              At the same time, very little is done to improve the appearance of the helicopter - all models over the past 30-40 years look like one, but not very good in the current conditions, when priority is given to the beauty, aesthetics and personal convenience of the crew and passengers.

              We are talking about military helicopters, and they are good without tuning.
            3. rJIiOK
              rJIiOK 28 December 2015 09: 23 New
              +1
              The Su-25 attack aircraft also does not change its appearance, but why? And because they are not looking for good from good, the body is durable and aerodynamically successful.
            4. Alexey-74
              Alexey-74 28 December 2015 10: 16 New
              0
              The same look? But what about the Ka-52, Mi-28 .... over the past 30-40 years, these helicopters have changed a lot both externally and internally !!!
          2. dauria
            dauria 27 December 2015 13: 14 New
            24
            Per month?! Yeah nafi


            In the year, of course, the old laughing В месяц 25 только на "Сазыкина" делали 24-ок, плюс "мессершмиты" (так заводские Як-55 называли)
          3. V.ic
            V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Per month?! Oh, what for

            Не звиздите и не звиздимы будете! В ноябре 1992 г. участвовал в приёмке "крайних" Ка-27ПЛ (четыре штуки). Не упомянут ещё Ростовский вертолётный завод.
        2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
          Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 December 2015 13: 07 New
          +3
          dauria-you have something wrong with the numbers, they are clearly overpriced !!!
          1. Haettenschweiler
            Haettenschweiler 27 December 2015 13: 10 New
            +5
            Quote: Vladimir
            Hard to believe ... But if the truth is, then God!


            - He does not tactfully tell how many of these helicopters remain in Russia. Because the vast majority go abroad.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 27 December 2015 13: 19 New
              +7
              50% maybe a little more. With oil workers and businessmen - about 150 cars in Russia per year, from 90 to 120 of them in the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the army.
            2. woron333444
              woron333444 27 December 2015 18: 38 New
              +2
              Yesterday there was a movie on TV about them, and he says there that it’s with export.
            3. rJIiOK
              rJIiOK 28 December 2015 09: 24 New
              0
              Of course, reliable cars are in demand.
              And how many helicopters do we ourselves? Every citizen on a helicopter?
              And for some reason, I suspect that if demand in Russia rises, production will increase.
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 27 December 2015 13: 13 New
            +5
            Only one thing is bad: in the Soviet years, the Mi-24 dominated the most important branch of helicopter engineering - combat helicopters, but now it seems that they are being replaced with eights, which, in general, is nonsense. And the magnificent Ka-29 is forgotten and abandoned.
          3. Serg koma
            Serg koma 27 December 2015 21: 17 New
            +1
            I won’t say anything about helicopters, but about tanks ...
            Примерно в середине "лихих" разговаривал с человеком из руководства "ЗОРа"( омский танковый тогда так назывался), примерный диалог.
            - Yesterday I returned from Tagil, they made ten cars a month (they meant tanks), but we don’t have that either ...
            (I frantically counted, multiplied, divided)
            - Stunned, it turns out 120 tanks a year about.
            - The capacity of the plant, which is ours, that Tagil designed for the release of 350 in peacetime!

            Вот такой разговор, "за что купил, за то и продаю". А добавьте сюда ещё и харьковский - за тысячу в год "ненапряжный" выпуск получится. Склонен верить что и с вертолётами в СССР дело обстояло примерно на равных с танками. fellow
        3. pvv113
          pvv113 27 December 2015 13: 20 New
          11
          You still forgot Rostov. In Kazan and Ulan-Ude, plants produce Mi-8, Mi-17 and their modifications, and in Arsenyev and Rostov Mi-24, Mi-35 of all modifications hi
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 27 December 2015 14: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: pvv113
            Arseniev and Rostov Mi-24, Mi-35 of all modifications

            "Роствертол" (Ростов-на-Дону) производит:
            Mi-35M;
            -Ми-28Н "Ночной охотник;
            Mi-26;
            Mi-26T;
            - blades for helicopters.
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 23 New
              0
              Quote: Bayonet
              "Роствертол" (Ростов-на-Дону) производит:

              You are not spies, an hour? Or are you working at ENKKAVED to misinform a potential adversary?
            2. pvv113
              pvv113 27 December 2015 22: 27 New
              +1
              There are also Mi-25 and Mi-35P, though I don’t know which plant produces them. Never encountered
        4. NIKNN
          NIKNN 27 December 2015 14: 11 New
          +2
          Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov said that the military department plans to restore the production of the Tu-160 strategic bomber-missile carrier in the Tu-160M2 version. It will be a practically new aircraft, 2,5 times superior to its predecessor

          We move as far as possible. Only see PAKD is delayed for now. request
        5. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 27 December 2015 15: 00 New
          17
          Quote: dauria

          Arseniev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... came out at 900 per month. Once we got a board for the new year in Arseniev - there was such a parking lot at the factory, they even asked us to fly around an unpainted board and sign acts (something with a premium there). So far from the USSR. 300 per year is the capacity of one plant. You know, women collected helicopters at the Sazykin plant. A bow to those workers. There were no complaints about cars for a couple of years ...

          I found the info.
          1. Yak28
            Yak28 27 December 2015 16: 17 New
            -8
            A lie table. Judging by it, 1981 on the 1990 each year, on average, 175-180 aircraft were made, of which 110 were military. This is a complete lie. By the end of 1991, the MAPO MiG produced about 1200 MiG-29 fighters, and how many SU-27 Mig-31, Su-24,25, Mig 21 was produced on 1985 year. I am silent about a bunch of other aircraft, and which 175 planes a year can be talked about. Also lies with helicopters
            1. Saburov
              Saburov 27 December 2015 17: 35 New
              +7
              Quote: Yak28
              A lie table. Judging by it, 1981 on the 1990 each year, on average, 175-180 aircraft were made, of which 110 were military. This is a complete lie. By the end of 1991, the MAPO MiG produced about 1200 MiG-29 fighters, and how many SU-27 Mig-31, Su-24,25, Mig 21 was produced on 1985 year. I am silent about a bunch of other aircraft, and which 175 planes a year can be talked about. Also lies with helicopters


              Dear, you at least looked at the MIG official website and looked at the information so as not to flog such nonsense! How could they produce 1200 fighters per year if MIG-29 (all modifications) from 1982 of the year to this day produced 1600 units? Man does not believe in anything so holy, of which he knows the least!
              1. Saburov
                Saburov 27 December 2015 18: 19 New
                +3
                By the end of the 80-s, the USSR accounted for more than a quarter of the total world production of aviation equipment and about two fifths of the entire military. In the USSR, up to 900 combat aircraft were produced annually, the highest rates for the post-war period were 1948-1959 (but this figure decreased since the advent of jet aircraft and with the complication of aircraft technical devices and instruments). 85% of the aircraft industry's production capacities inherited from the USSR. Now there are 312 enterprises with the number of employed 520 thousand people. Russia has come out on top in the world in terms of military aircraft production, overtaking the United States and China. In the first three quarters of 2014, the country's armed forces received 40 new aircraft and 80 helicopters. In total, about 90 aircraft and more than 200 helicopters will be delivered to the Russian troops this year.
                AIRCRAFT
                According to the data at the end of October since the beginning of 2014, the Russian Air Force received:

                12 multipurpose fighter-bomber Su-34,
                14 Su-30СМ fighters (by the end of the year 12 will be handed over),
                4 fighter Su-30M2,
                12 upgraded Su-27СМ3,
                9 combat training Yak-130.

                In addition, the strategic forces of the Russian Air Force received three upgraded strategic missile carriers Tu-95MS and a long-range bomber-missile carrier Tu-22М3, which underwent reconstruction and modernization.

                The deep modernization of the Mig-31 fighter interceptors to the Mig-31BM version is also continuing. In the first half of 2014, the rearmament of the first squadron of the Tver Fighter Aviation Regiment of the Western Military District (ZVO) on the MiG-31BM was completed. And at the end of October 2014, the regiment received the first two aircraft for the second squadron.

                Since the beginning of the year, the fleet of military transport aviation has replenished ten aircraft, including two serial heavy transport IL-76MD-90A, three new medium-range An-148 (out of four planned for this year), and other aircraft.

                As for helicopters, the army aviation from the beginning of the year received:

                12 attack helicopters Ka-52 Alligator. (A total of 240 pieces were ordered. In 2012, an 21 helicopter was manufactured, in 2013 - 24, in the 2014 it will be 28 according to the plan. Another 100 of these machines will be put into service by the Navy for fire support of naval assault forces, escort of carrier-based and airborne helicopters).

                5 attack helicopters Mi-28Н “Night hunter”,
                8 Mi-35M transport and combat helicopters, replacing the obsolete Mi-24;
                9 medium transport helicopters Mi-8AMTS,
                3 helicopter Mi-8MTV-5,

                as well as a significant number of light Ka-226, training "Ansat-U", helicopters for the Russian Navy Ka-32 and Ka-27M. Super-heavy Mi-26 transport helicopters were also built and handed over to the armed forces, including those designed to perform tasks in the Arctic.
                1. V.ic
                  V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 32 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Saburov
                  For the first three quarters of 2014, the country's armed forces received

                  Quote: Saburov
                  According to the data at the end of October since the beginning of 2014, the Russian Air Force received:

                  Quote: Saburov
                  In addition, the strategic forces of the Russian Air Force received

                  Quote: Saburov
                  The deep modernization of interceptor fighters also continues.

                  Quote: Saburov
                  Fleet of military transport aircraft since the beginning of the year replenished

                  Quote: Saburov
                  As for helicopters, the army aviation from the beginning of the year received:

                  Quote: Saburov
                  as well as a significant number

                  Well, what would the relevant authorities do with you so years ago 50-40? Normal spy report to foreign owners. According to the results, either a shooting or a ticket to sunny Magadan for years on 25.
                  1. Saburov
                    Saburov 27 December 2015 20: 27 New
                    +6
                    Quote: V.ic
                    Well, what would the relevant authorities do with you so years ago 50-40? Normal spy report to foreign owners. According to the results, either a shooting or a ticket to sunny Magadan for years on 25.


                    This is open information of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, but full information about the number and composition of the Russian aerospace forces is a state secret.
              2. Yak28
                Yak28 27 December 2015 18: 26 New
                -2
                Not from a year, but from 1982 to 1991, you’re breaking rubbish.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov 27 December 2015 18: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Yak28
                  By the end of the 1991 year, MAPO MiG produced about 1200 fighters


                  Then write correctly! And how to understand you?
              3. Wheel
                Wheel 27 December 2015 21: 27 New
                +2
                Quote: Saburov
                How could they produce 1200 fighters a year if the MIG-29 (all modifications) from 1982 to the present day produced 1600 units? Man does not believe in anything so holy, of which he knows the least!

                And so they could.
                The Moscow factory from 1982 to 1992 produced 1132 pieces of the MiG-29.
                Accordingly, all the rest were produced by the Moscow and Gorky factories from 1993 to the present.
                In addition, the Irkutsk and Ulan-Udin factories for the same period produced
                780 pcs. Su-27.
                In addition, from 82 to 85th in Gorky, 288 MiG-25s and about 400 MiG-31s ​​were launched
                Plus here
                87 Yak-38 (Saratov)
                about 700 Su-24 (Novosibirsk)
                788 Su-22 (Komsomolsk)
                Total 4175 pcs. for 10 years, or 417 military units / year.
                Specially did not provide data on plants outside the RSFSR.
                / History of the domestic aviation industry. Series aircraft construction 1910-2010. (Sobolev D.A. (Ed.)) /
              4. Alex_Tug
                Alex_Tug 1 June 2016 01: 04 New
                0
                Yak28 не говорит в год, а всего Миг-29 на 1991 год. Там суммарное самолетов за 10 лет <2000.
                Если Миг-29 1200, то остальным останется <800.
                Somehow, in principle, the numbers are incorrect.
          2. Saburov
            Saburov 27 December 2015 18: 22 New
            0
            This is the aircraft release chart in the RSFSR.
        6. Alekseev
          Alekseev 27 December 2015 15: 26 New
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          Quote: dauria
          came out at 900 per month

          Это ЛА выходило иной год под 900. А вертолётов от 300 до 400. Так что "Вертолёты России" на уровне, дай Бог и другим так.
          However, the amount left in the past. Now the emphasis in the development of arms and military equipment (and indeed) on quality. There will be neither Ka-52 helicopters, nor T-14 tanks, and many thousands, like their predecessors, are not needed.
          I'm not saying that everything is fine. A lot is still very bad. request But the example of helicopter builders is encouraging.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 27 December 2015 17: 15 New
            +4
            Quote: Alekseev
            Это ЛА выходило иной год под 900. А вертолётов от 300 до 400. Так что "Вертолёты России" на уровне, дай Бог и другим так.
            - Consider the increased complexity of helicopters and aircraft compared to previous models. I think that by helicopter - comparable, as stated in the subject, comparable - does not mean more, it means less, but not at times.
        7. Homo
          Homo 27 December 2015 16: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: dauria
          So far from the USSR.

          So Russia is not the USSR. And by area and by population and production capacity. This refers to relative equality.
        8. Saburov
          Saburov 27 December 2015 17: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: dauria
          Arsenyev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... was published under 900 per month.


          Well here, dear, you have bent a little, to put it mildly ... in the USSR for the period from 1981 to 1990
          In the USSR, from 81 to 90, from 475 to 635 helicopters a year were produced. The maximum indicator is still far away, while the minimum is already close. And again I remind you, we are comparing Russia with the entire USSR, and not just with the RSFSR. I think the RSFSR we have already generally caught up.
        9. Yars
          Yars 27 December 2015 19: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.


          Arsenyev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... was published under 900 per month.

          yes what are you lying! not good to lie dear! Do you imagine the number of helicopters a year at this rate? and in ten years ?! do we all fly in helicopters ?!
          Here you have the official statistics - http://pofigzavr.livejournal.com/877.html
          and the people are a plus without even checking the information .............
        10. Serg koma
          Serg koma 27 December 2015 20: 56 New
          0
          Quote: dauria
          So far from the USSR

          Well, it’s in vain that you’re cutting it off your shoulder ...
          Ex-Minister of Defense of Russia Anatoly Сердюков вошел в совет директоров холдинга "Вертолеты России" – одного из мировых лидеров вертолетостроительной отрасли (входит в "Ростех"), предает ТАСС.
          am
          "Мебельщику" ВСЁ по плечу negative
          В СССР расстрельная статья была за ИЗМЕНУ Родине, сейчас "кресло" с хорошим окладом и золотой парашют в нагрузку - вот по этим "параметрам" до СССР точно далековато...
        11. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 27 December 2015 21: 04 New
          0
          was released under 900 per month [that is, per year]

          It is wrong to compare. All technical indicators of helicopters have stepped far forward since that time, so the exchange of 1 to 1 is not justified. This is the same as putting on a par with the dreadnoughts of Atlanta.
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 28 December 2015 01: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            It is wrong to compare. All technical indicators of helicopters have stepped far forward since that time, so the exchange of 1 to 1 is not justified. This is the same as putting on a par with the dreadnoughts of Atlanta.
            Mi-8 is produced and operated from the year 65 until now, if Che. To call modifications cardinal, the language does not turn around, you know.
            The situation is similar with the 26th and 24th.
            With the Kamov helicopters, everything is sad ....
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 27 December 2015 15: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        God grant

        Hope for God, but don’t be bad. It seems so says folk wisdom? :)
      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 27 December 2015 17: 09 New
        +1
        Are there any conditions? There is a certain desire (even more idle talk about the media), but the possibilities of our industry are clearly limited. We can make a glider, but the problem of engines will obviously not be solved in a year (I think five years will be needed). And with avionics, the trouble is Soviet times were clearly lagging behind, but now ....
        Quote: cniza
        God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.
      4. iouris
        iouris 27 December 2015 17: 17 New
        +1
        Where do the missing 600 engines come from (30 engines are practically 0, and all twin-engine helicopters)?
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 December 2015 19: 47 New
          0
          Quote: iouris
          Where do the missing 600 engines come from (30 engines are practically 0, and all twin-engine helicopters)?

          Какие только чудеса не стали твориться в мире. Вот взять Беларусь, кто бы думал, что она может стать чуть ли не основным поставщиком красной рыбы, мидий, цитрусовых, бананов...и все "Зроблена ў Беларусі". Так,что вполне возможно, что и на этих движках то же клеймо...
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    3. svp67
      svp67 27 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir
      Hard to believe ... But if the truth is, then God!

      And you look here http://www.great-country.ru/articles/sssr/sov_delali/00009.html for helicopters of the Mi8 family is still YES, but somehow it is forgotten that at the same time other types and brands were produced in the USSR helicopters and here - NO
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    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 13: 23 New
      +8
      It is important to fully ensure the production of engines for helicopters in Russia. Including all components. In this production, one cannot depend on unfriendly states.
      How much has to be redone to compensate for broken communications.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 13: 28 New
      +6
      I can add to the news that, according to the same helicopter builders, the current helicopter, although it is being produced on a conveyor belt, is unique on each side both in terms of the composition of the electronics and the cabin (unlike in Soviet production, where there were fewer options). and these are additional difficulties in production. therefore, the piece rates comparable to the Soviet ones will even be abruptly higher.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 27 December 2015 14: 20 New
        -1
        Сердюков отрасль возглавит,ни чего не будет,всё"реформирует" с Васильевой на пару.
    7. seti
      seti 27 December 2015 15: 11 New
      +8
      Why is it hard to believe ..? There are really a lot of helicopters now being released. Therefore, the problem is still in the engines. In St. Petersburg, they are just setting up a mass production of VK2500. But almost all of our helicopters fly from it to transport helicopters. He is more powerful and perfect TV3-117 which is essentially Soviet, not Ukrainian. And its potential is much higher. So the future lies with our engines. The main thing is to establish the production of a new engine in the shortest possible time, to reduce production costs and increase output. Well, shove it more actively on the international market for sales of Soviet / Russian helicopters in order to gradually get rid of competition from the TV3-117. These are millions and billions to the budget and manufacturing plants. Let me remind you that a new helicopter costs millions, depending on the modification.
    8. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2015 15: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      Hard to believe ..

      The Bible has already described a similar character - Thomas the unbeliever. Until October 2015, few believed that Russia was capable of delivering massive strikes with high-precision cruise missiles over a distance of 1500 km. However, alas ... A miracle happened.
      Russia is a wonderland.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 38 New
        -2
        Quote: Nick
        Russia is a wonderland.

        Here you can see immediately the person who did not serve in the Air Force. Air Force = Wonderland!
        1. Nick
          Nick 29 December 2015 13: 15 New
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: Nick
          Russia is a wonderland.

          Here you can see immediately the person who did not serve in the Air Force. Air Force = Wonderland!

          You are right about one thing; I did not serve in the Air Force; I served in the Strategic Rocket Forces.
      2. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 27 December 2015 20: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Nick
        Russia is able to inflict massive hits high-precision cruise missiles at a distance of 1500 km. However, alas ... A miracle happened.
        Russia is a wonderland.


        - От 18 до 26 пусков, согласно открытых источников. Это не совсем, чтобы прямо "массированные", но и использование крылатых ракет в принципе для России нетипично, как правило, это "фирменный стиль" USArmy. Искренне радует, что "всевеликий" пока не додумался запустить в Сирию наземные войска. Пусть это остаётся масштабной военной операций по нанесению воздушных ударов, хотя бы, если уж без войнушки в Сирии ему никак. Искренне желаю военным лётчикам, чтобы количество взлётов равнялось количеству посадок.
        1. Nick
          Nick 29 December 2015 13: 27 New
          0
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - От 18 до 26 пусков, согласно открытых источников. Это не совсем, чтобы прямо "массированные",

          For the strike on the British Isles, of course, it’s not too massive, for you a couple of thousand it’s not a pity, but for Daesh very much ... And then, what a high fire performance, 26 launches per minute. I roughly estimated from one platform the launch was made every 4-5 seconds!
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Искренне радует, что "всевеликий" пока не додумался запустить в Сирию наземные войска

          He thought of not introducing ground forces. It will be more accurate.
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Let it remain a large-scale military operation to inflict air strikes, if only if he doesn’t have any war in Syria.

          ... that’s nothing for us, and you won’t sit behind the English Channel, don’t hope. On your streets in London, Islamists are chopping English soldiers into pieces in broad daylight.
    9. Civil
      Civil 27 December 2015 16: 29 New
      -2
      Serge! Say hello to your friend Tolik Serdyukov! Say we'll never forget him!
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 December 2015 01: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Say we'll never forget him!

        Well ... like this ... he is still alive! ???
    10. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 December 2015 18: 40 New
      -2
      Vladimirych (4 Hard to believe ... But if truth be given, then God! ................................... ........ Yes, it can and is true! The only question is, how many of them remain in Russia? Yes, and the release of MI 8 and Mi 17 And not Mi 24, is a reflection.
  2. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 12: 37 New
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    the number of helicopters produced in the country today is comparable with the volumes of the Soviet period

    Nothing. Right now, Serdyukov Anatoly Eduardovich, correct this annoying flaw. Just helicopter construction is now assigned to lead.
    1. Bath
      Bath 27 December 2015 12: 41 New
      -4
      Yes, they sent a goat to the garden for being guided by plywood, they will begin to fly, what’s new there in a helicopter building nano-helicopters on paper they are, but actually dumb
    2. Bespectacled
      Bespectacled 27 December 2015 12: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Right now, Serdyukov Anatoly Eduardovich, correct this annoying flaw.

      Who would doubt ...
    3. uge.garik
      uge.garik 27 December 2015 13: 12 New
      +1
      ... an article would be necessary in the Criminal Code, a firing squad .., - for sabotage and the failure of the state defense order ..!
    4. veksha50
      veksha50 27 December 2015 16: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Just helicopter construction is now assigned to lead.



      Do not be scared at night looking ...

      P.S. С дрожанием в голосе спрашиваю: "Правда, что ли ???"... Я что-то проспал ???
      1. Bath
        Bath 27 December 2015 22: 49 New
        -1
        I see people still believe in Taburetkina minuses instructed how many more suckers around then
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 December 2015 12: 38 New
    +2
    By helicopter a day, cool! Well done! recourse
  4. Petruha
    Petruha 27 December 2015 12: 41 New
    +4
    sorry, of course the motor Sich! Boguslaev kept the plant afloat for so many years, people worked for him and received quite well by the standards of Zaporizhia. and now the plant is bending. ruined, country! but now there are their own engines and the Russian Federation does not depend on foreign morons.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 12: 52 New
      46
      Жалко? А мне нет. Поделом им. Если на всё 750-тысячное Запорожье (из которого 18 тысяч составляют работники "Мотор-Сич") нашлось всего 300 человек, посмевших встать против озверевших майдановских нацистов.

      Do not remember April 2014? And I remember.
      1. onix757
        onix757 27 December 2015 12: 57 New
        +1
        You might think we would have come out more. Our people have long been turned into a mass, which even defend their civil rights with scrap.
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 27 December 2015 17: 04 New
          +4
          Quote: onix757
          You might think we would have come out more. Our people have long been turned into a mass, which even defend their civil rights with scrap.

          Maybe not very much would come to the defense.
          But so that there were so many scum that they throw stones at people and beat unarmed armature. I do not believe!!!

          The ukroeksperiment is terrible in that out of most young people they have grown geeks without a mind and a heart.

          Whatever they say about Russia, but we see geeks in the average statistical amount. Basically, people are normal, kind and reasonably educated smart.
      2. uge.garik
        uge.garik 27 December 2015 13: 18 New
        0
        So it’s precisely these people who need to be conquered, defended ..! Our gene pool ..!
      3. onix757
        onix757 27 December 2015 13: 25 New
        -1
        The fact is, left-bank Ukraine would have long been in the orbit of influence of the Russian Federation if our elites were guided in their actions by the interests of the people, and this is impossible in principle in the prevailing feudal-oligarchic system.
      4. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 27 December 2015 13: 26 New
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        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Жалко? А мне нет. Поделом им. Если на всё 750-тысячное Запорожье (из которого 18 тысяч составляют работники "Мотор-Сич") нашлось всего 300 человек, посмевших встать против озверевших майдановских нацистов.

        Do not remember April 2014? And I remember.



        Any actions of Ukraine against Russia as a rule lead to the fact that in Russia it is necessary to build something and break in Ukraine. In this case, they build factories for the production of engines near St. Petersburg and break Motor Sich. The blockade of Crimea by Ukraine forces Russia to build bridges, roads, power plants, power lines, and increase food production. In Ukraine, they break power lines, roads, reduce electricity production. What do you think is more profitable for a country's development to break or build?
        Engines, by the way, developed in St. Petersburg, Motor Sich serial plant. So nothing prevents setting up a release in Russia
        1. onix757
          onix757 27 December 2015 13: 31 New
          -11
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Any actions of Ukraine against Russia as a rule lead to the fact that in Russia it is necessary to build something and break in Ukraine. In this case, they build factories for the production of engines near St. Petersburg and break Motor Sich. Ukraine’s blockade of Crimea forces Russia to build bridges, roads, power plants, power lines, increase food production

          Ukraine is not only a motor-sich, but also a human resource, a favorable geopolitical location, a sales market and a powerful military industrial complex.
          And about the plant near St. Petersburg, so it has not yet been built.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 14: 07 New
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            Quote: onix757
            sales market and powerful VPK.

            A bad market, to put it mildly, now from Ukraine. And unreliable.
            Насчёт "мощного ВПК" вообще насмешили. Такой он "мощный", что, к примеру, на головном танковом заводе за пять лет 10 танков по таиландскому контракту изготовили. Был мощный, да. Был, да сплыл.
            1. onix757
              onix757 27 December 2015 14: 21 New
              -16
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              Bad, to say the least, now from Ukraine sales market

              Putin decided whether he should be good or good in 2014 when he spoke for the protection of the Russians.
              Насчёт "мощного ВПК" вообще насмешили.

              In vain, in Russia, the closure of defense enterprises took place and is happening much faster than there.
              over the course of five years, 10 tanks were manufactured at the head tank factory under the Thai contract.

              But this does not negate the fact that there is a plant and people work at it. Accordingly, with a competent statement of the matter, I could work with a vengeance in our interests. But the Russian Federation has its own path, as the recent GDP was justified, we are not building the USSR-2.
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          So nothing prevents setting up a release in Russia

          Do you consider yourself a specialist in engine building? Can you imagine that a particular type of engine matches a specific number of identical vanes in a turbocharger? To make ONE blade = this is to first make an almost single crystal of metal of specific sizes and do a hell of a heap of operations with it before allowing it to assemble a specific stage of the turbocharger. These are not pistons for automobile manufacturing, other loads and operating conditions are extreme. There were timid attempts to /! Projects! / To launch the release of TV3-117 in Perm in 1987, but they were nipped in the bud by the cleanser Gorbaty / Mecheny.
          1. mart-kot
            mart-kot 28 December 2015 14: 22 New
            0
            Not sts in compote, in Perm everything is okay docks, we need to do shovels, we’ll have power, we’ll only expand them, restore the workshop and go back into battle. And so we work and collect engines.
          2. mart-kot
            mart-kot 28 December 2015 14: 22 New
            0
            Not sts in compote, in Perm everything is okay docks, we need to do shovels, we’ll have power, we’ll only expand them, restore the workshop and go back into battle. And so we work and collect engines.
      5. Horst78
        Horst78 27 December 2015 16: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Do not remember April 2014? And I remember.

        Remember and don’t understand HOW SO?
    2. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 27 December 2015 13: 14 New
      +2
      I'm sorry too. Moreover, this is my hometown, and the plant where my parents and grandfathers worked all their lives ...
      Only recently I came across the composition of the Security Council of Ukraine, and it turns out that Boguslaev is included !!!
  5. 34 region
    34 region 27 December 2015 12: 42 New
    +1
    As I understand it, this is done at state enterprises. Will privatize as ineffective? All ears have already buzzed for us, only private is effective!
  6. lukke
    lukke 27 December 2015 12: 43 New
    +1
    I read the title of the article and thought - is it possible that the next merit of a fraction will be painted ?!)
  7. pts-m
    pts-m 27 December 2015 12: 43 New
    0
    The main thing is not to forget to update your Armed Forces.! And the beginning is always difficult, and then like clockwork. Verified in practice. Good luck to helicopter builders and their suppliers!
  8. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 27 December 2015 12: 44 New
    +3
    I watched his interview. Double feeling. As for the defense, everything seems to be right, but as for AvtoVAZ, he said that there would be no more reductions, there would be a natural decline. What is it like? Farce, and cynical. I live in Togliatti. Forced to write a statement of their own volition.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 27 December 2015 13: 01 New
      11
      So I do not catch up even kill. How can a country produce the best rocket, airplane, tank engines, turbines for nuclear power plants in the world .. not create a normal, reliable, automotive, economical engine.?
      They cannot, do not believe, DO NOT WANT and DO NOT GIVE those sitting in the Duma.
      Here Valuev for example, what is he doing there?
      1. onix757
        onix757 27 December 2015 13: 53 New
        -12
        Quote: Barracuda
        So I do not catch up even kill. How can a country produce the world's best rocket, aircraft, tank engines, turbines for nuclear power plants ..

        The design school has been lost. Stupidly buying a license and stamping, about their development is out of the question. When the Union had a full production cycle, now the head plants are forced to do what they can find and preferably cheaper.
      2. avt
        avt 27 December 2015 13: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: Barracuda
        T sitting in the Duma.
        Here Valuev for example, what is he doing there?

        what So you won’t answer right away ... the first thing that comes to mind is Caligula who rode into the Senate there on a horse and appointed him a senator, and he was also going to make the horse a consul.
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 27 December 2015 16: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: Barracuda
        Here Valuev for example, what is he doing there?



        Hmm, I found someone to complain about in the Duma ... Yes, he is probably the most harmless there ... Due to some specific features ... Like Klitschko, he doesn’t break into mayor-governor-speaker ... Otherwise, he’s ...

        There is someone to present about what they are doing in the Duma ...
      4. V.ic
        V.ic 27 December 2015 19: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Barracuda
        Do not create a normal, reliable, automotive, economical engine.?

        This mystery is great, it is covered with darkness!
    2. 34 region
      34 region 27 December 2015 13: 13 New
      0
      Probably not by choice, but by agreement of the parties. With the payment of the average monthly salary. Maybe I'm wrong. But in my opinion, layoffs follow this pattern. Or you work out for three months with a salary lower than the minimum wage and upon dismissal you get the average for the last three months. So it turns out the dismissal of their own.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 27 December 2015 13: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Region 34
        So it turns out the dismissal of their own.

        But in reality this is a reduction.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 27 December 2015 13: 44 New
          +2
          The reality is contraction. But we also live in a virtual world. Announce salary increase. Hooray! The prize is being cut. Result? The amount has not changed. And on papers, the salary was increased. Another variant. You remain after work. Hours more salary per month more. According to the report, salary for the month increased. And you are talking about reality. hi
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 December 2015 12: 53 New
    0
    Вертолетостроение в России всегда было на мировом уровне. Движки за чем то на Украине оставили, да кто же знал ... Зато разработки движков - свои, и стало быть, развернем свой выпуск, а "МоторСичь" хай идёт, куда хочет, вместе с ... В России выпускается единственный в мире боевой вертолёт сосной схемы, имеющий перспективы перейти в скоростные - причём круче "Оспреев" и "Сикорских". Авионика у нас очень быстро развивается и обновляется.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 20: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The only pine helicopter combat helicopter in the world is produced in Russia,

      Вертолёт соосной схемы это просто чуть другой редуктор ВР-252, понижающий обороты двигателей до 272-270 об/мин и колонка несущих винтов, передающая вращающий момент системе несущих винтов. Читайте книгу Арлазорова "Винт и крыло", где рассмотрены достоинства соосной схемы.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 27 December 2015 20: 44 New
        0
        Well, yes, here all theorists with knowledge gathered, and ran to institute libraries (where they are not allowed without a pass ticket) taking with them an engineering calculator, a couple of sheets of whatman ... and a culman behind ... (tablet)
        How many Sikorsky helicopters did he take? At Rachmaninov's house he lived in the states, until he got to his feet.
        Я к примеру "ЗА" соосную схему, но не во всех разных случаях.
  10. moskowit
    moskowit 27 December 2015 12: 55 New
    +4
    Oh well. The output in the USSR has always been compared with the imperial indicators of 1913 of the year. And what current and future Russian will we compare with what year, with 1983?
    1. 34 region
      34 region 27 December 2015 13: 17 New
      0
      Yes, it’s certainly interesting to compare the indicators of the 80th or 90th year with today's. But for some reason such comparisons are embarrassed to do, modest! Though! There are comparisons in the number of stores and foreign cars per capita!
  11. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 December 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    У меня над головою Ми28 и ми26так часто летают,что я просто удевляюсь если не услышал гул движков,и не заметил вертушку"спешащую по своим делам"!!!
  12. Orenburg
    Orenburg 27 December 2015 13: 13 New
    0
    Quote: bespectacled
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Right now, Serdyukov Anatoly Eduardovich, correct this annoying flaw.

    Who would doubt ...

    And then the supreme will cover him again, will pass by as a witness. The raven will not peck out the crow's eye!
  13. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 27 December 2015 13: 17 New
    +1
    In the 80s, approximately 500 pieces were produced. in year. Maybe uncle compares with 90-91 year, there could be worse. But most likely it’s just lying, like everyone is so stupid, no one will check.
  14. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 27 December 2015 13: 26 New
    0
    Really caught up with the USSR ?! Something is not believed ...
  15. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 27 December 2015 13: 53 New
    +1
    And why not catch up. With all my great respect for the USSR, he had one weakness in production - the dispersion of component suppliers throughout the vast country. What is the cost of such logistics?
    If we want to produce a competitive product, we cannot do without new plants, as well as without narrowing the geography of supplies of components for the product.
    An example is the Elektropribor factory in Voronezh - a theme, something related to military rocket science, employed 5000 people. Considering that since 1998, its checkpoint has been, almost in front of my eyes, exported not enough products.
    And in the new factories, from zero - 600 people work, but a decent amount - this is the key to competitiveness.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 20: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Anisim1977
      he had one weakness in production - the dispersion of component suppliers throughout the vast country. What is the cost of such logistics?

      You're not right. Albert Speer, Minister of Arms and Military Industry of the Third Reich, introduced this armament production scheme, which is not very vulnerable to air strikes. The Luftwaffe made two air raids on the Gorky Bearing Plant. The volume of production in the USSR was saved by the availability of mobilization stocks of the necessary nomenclature of bearings and emergency supplies of it under Lend-Lease.
  16. Rigla
    Rigla 27 December 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    There is no hope in the shifters of the Ukrainians, it is necessary to raise the engine industry on their own. At the same time worsened the financial life of creatures ukrov.
  17. tinibar
    tinibar 27 December 2015 14: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: dauria
    came out at 900 per month

    Per month?! Oh, what for No.

    Apparently a typo, was meant in a year ... hi
  18. smith7
    smith7 27 December 2015 14: 38 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.

    Прекрасно, согласен. Но еще хочется чтоб и "ширпотреб" российского производства был "впереди планеты всей". Если усилия промышленности бросать на промышленные товары, то это буквально будет означать Золотой век России, ибо травля России её многовековыми врагами завершиться. Мечта. А пока надо вертолеты, корабли, ракетные комплексы и затянуть пояса. Иначе - экономическое рабство. Мы не можем себе позволить "жировать" за счет остального Мира, как это делают олигархические экономики мирового зла.
    1. Mikhalych 70
      Mikhalych 70 27 December 2015 20: 14 New
      +1
      Камрады! У меня одного "дежавю"? Вспоминаю детские ассоциации: мы против империалистов мира. Армия сильна, оборонка на высоте, джинсы только на "галёре" (для питерских, кто в теме). Потом Меченый слил Союз, ЕБН добавил, и появились "варёнки" от кооператоров, потом мы стали дружить со всем миром, появились "МD", но, в армии перестали проводиться учения. Много чего произошло, в итоге мы показали, что умеем огрызаться, стрелять из Каспия, и поднимать "стратегов".Я к чему. Вот понимаю головой, что надо опять "затянуть пояса" для того, что бы хватило денег в стране на провода в Крым и керосин для самолей. Но! Лёгкая промышленность опять, получается в опе? И, что ? Опять, "... лучше всех у нас ракеты и балет !"?! Думаю, не будет у нас своих чайников ... Или-или ... Что ж, пусть лучше террористы на клочки разлетаются в пустыне...
  19. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 27 December 2015 14: 46 New
    0
    Yes, normal :)
    There is no need to count on more.
    There is no one to work.
    Yes, no one will go to such pay wassat
    (It’s bad to say so, but fact is fact)
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  21. okroshka79
    okroshka79 27 December 2015 15: 09 New
    +2
    I want to add to the comment Anisim1977. The spread of allies, of course, made production more expensive, but not significantly. But this was done quite consciously to create industries and jobs evenly throughout the country. Such was the economic policy of the state. Moreover, on average, transportation costs amounted to no more than 2% of the cost of production of military products, despite the geographical location of the enterprise. And in the presence of stable state orders, the delivery of components to assembly plants was carried out in a timely manner on a contractual basis. So, there was no particular weakness in the military production of remoteness of suppliers of components for MZK. On the contrary, many social problems were simultaneously solved.
  22. for_White_Only
    for_White_Only 27 December 2015 15: 12 New
    -4
    Quote: dauria
    God forbid, that would have surpassed all the conditions.


    Arseniev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... came out at 900 per month. Once we got a board for the new year in Arseniev - there was such a parking lot at the factory, they even asked us to fly around an unpainted board and sign acts (something with a premium there). So far from the USSR. 300 per year is the capacity of one plant. You know, women collected helicopters at the Sazykin plant. A bow to those workers. There were no complaints about cars for a couple of years ...

    Yes, yes, yes)) 900 per year)) ahah) komunyaki omnipotent)
    The tablet cited GELEZNII_KAPUT (1) RU Today, 15:00
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 20: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: for_White_Only
      Yes, yes, yes)) 900 per year)) ahah) komunyaki omnipotent)

      You yourself are only capable of producing fertilizer and related miasms.
  23. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 27 December 2015 15: 22 New
    0
    Such news is encouraging, but for some reason the presence of Serdyukov is immediately alarming: again, he will find some sort of Vasiliev. Time will tell, but I think they warmed it in vain.
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 December 2015 15: 25 New
    0
    The next stage is the change of the Mi 8 generation and the development of lighter vehicles and a high-speed helicopter. This is the engine of the industry and the key to success for 50 years. By analogy with the Mi 8
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 20: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The next stage is the change of the Mi 8 generation and the development of lighter vehicles and a high-speed helicopter

      Уважаемый, Ми-8 = это классика жанра производства геликоптеров. Porsche Cayenne не отличается принципиально от Fiat 124. Колёс 4 (четыре), двигатель 1 (один) и т.д. Качественно эпоха вертолётов закончится при достижении путевой скорости около 400 км/ч, грузоподъёмности брутто/нетто 15/6,5 т. и дальности те же самые 800 (ну максимум 850) км. Дальнейшее развитие только тюннинг и дополнительные примбамбасы. Воздух всё-таки сжимаемая среда, которая повышает сопротивление движению летательного аппарата не просто пропорционально увеличению скорости его движения, а даже пропорционально квадрату, а затем и кубу скорости движения. Скорости движения законцовок несущих винтов вертолётов стремятся к скорости звука, но не превзойдут её... А это финиш! Представьте себе ещё один немаловажный момент, что лопасть несущего винта при положительном угле атаки по ходу своего движения, совпадающего с направлением движения ЛА, должна изменить угол атаки на отрицательный при вращении против движения ЛА. Просчитайте изгибающие моменты, действующие на лопасть при циклическом изменении шага винта. Делите общий вес вертолёта на количество лопастей, получается, что каждая лопасть винта должна выдерживать ДВОЙНУЮ получившуюся нагрузку примерна "четыре" раза в секунду (больше в соосной схеме/меньше в поперечной). Конструкция лопастей сейчас подошла к практическому пределу прочности. И без развития прорывных технологий в производстве лопастей либо их конструкции, впереди маячит технологический и конструкторский тупик развития вертолётов.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 28 December 2015 08: 37 New
        +1
        Dear, I have no complaints about the principle of flight with MI 8. Good car. But without a change of generations in 5-10 years, sales will go down due to competition, the cost of transported cargo, the cost of flight hours,% of combat-ready helicopters. Materials and engineering solutions are already ahead. Therefore, a successor is needed. And you need to learn in time to change the lineup.
  25. bashkort
    bashkort 27 December 2015 16: 03 New
    0
    In Kumertau, helicopters of the Ka family also produced and are releasing. Since this year, the enterprise with Kazan has been merged into one holding.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 21: 05 New
      0
      Quote: bashkort
      In Kumertau, more Ka family helicopters let out и produce.

      On the first question no objection. And what about second question is it possible in more detail about those ordered under the contract for 2016? Something I'm not aware of about the release. Not everything that flies is manufactured / manufactured, although almost everything that was once made and then repaired flies.
      Quote: bashkort
      Since this year, the enterprise with Kazan combine in one holding.

      И это наполняет сознание "bashkort"-а непередаваемой радостью? Where будут перечисляться денежки "ёскенем"?
  26. veksha50
    veksha50 27 December 2015 16: 10 New
    +2
    "уже в этом году мы производим около 30 штук, although we need 300. But, I think that next year we have will be closer to 200"...

    Hmm ... the walking one will master the road ... and then he will be able to master the mountain ... Water does not flow under a lying stone ...

    Even in other industries, there would have been shifts ... In general, as always: I needed a pendel to make it ourselves ...

    We do not need globalization, we need our own and only our own industrial products ...

    Сейчас камнями закидают, однако - как не сказать "Слава Украине" ??? laughing

    PS At least in some sense it’s useful - they began to make engines for helicopters themselves, rockets ... Now we would have mastered the line of aircraft to replace the family of reliable old Anovs ... Well, engines for ships ...
  27. Yak28
    Yak28 27 December 2015 16: 57 New
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    In the USSR, only about 300 MI-8 helicopters were made a year.
  28. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 27 December 2015 17: 40 New
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    Quote: pvv113
    You still forgot Rostov. In Kazan and Ulan-Ude, plants produce Mi-8, Mi-17 and their modifications, and in Arsenyev and Rostov Mi-24, Mi-35 of all modifications hi

    And also the MV Milksh MVZ in Tomilino-Nearest Moscow Region and Kumertau with the Ukhtomsky Helicopter Plant in Moscow. Last-from Kamov’s company
  29. Ilya77
    Ilya77 27 December 2015 17: 47 New
    +4
    I'm glad for the defense industry, I myself work in it, in aviation. Only here I have doubts about the need for these state corporations - we ourselves enter into it, only the good of it .. here Mayweather came, Rostec paid, asked what side? They took it, threw out five million dollars, and also organized it sucks. It is possible for our plant to pay a salary for this money for a year. It feels like all these UAC, USC, Rostec are pure, so that there people would be lured and cut ribbons, and money would be pumped through themselves, but this does not affect ordinary workers at all. Of course, on the one hand, sometimes it’s not good when a private owner owns a defense plant, it often ends in tears with us, but then again, it’s not necessary to create state corporations, well, or something more modest.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 21: 08 New
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      Quote: Ilya77
      money was pumped through itself, but this does not affect us at all for ordinary workers.

      Well, now you understand why and for whom it was done!
  30. holgert
    holgert 27 December 2015 19: 06 New
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    I would like something new, and not just the developments of the USSR. Where are new ideas, thoughts, projects ??? I won’t believe that they are not ---- it’s just profitable to stamp old ones !!!! And the fact that MI-8 is a cool machine -so you don’t need to talk about this !!!!! New ideas in the New Year !!!!
  31. Siberian
    Siberian 27 December 2015 19: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    Quote: dauria

    Arseniev, Kazan, Ulan-Ude .... came out at 900 per month. Once we got a board for the new year in Arseniev - there was such a parking lot at the factory, they even asked us to fly around an unpainted board and sign acts (something with a premium there). So far from the USSR. 300 per year is the capacity of one plant. You know, women collected helicopters at the Sazykin plant. A bow to those workers. There were no complaints about cars for a couple of years ...

    I found the info.

    ...... Your info is true and those who try to challenge it simply simply do not own the information. Anyway, the basis of the helicopter is the engine. And what is finally expected in 2016, as many as 200 VK-2500 engines, says a lot and confirms the author’s correctness in the fact that we really mastered the exit of helicopters in the same way as in Soviet times. And this is already a big brick in a building being built by Russia, which is called import substitution. So, here we are, in the helicopter park being built by the country, we don’t depend on anyone will be.
  32. zinander
    zinander 27 December 2015 20: 39 New
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    I don’t know what about the Soviet period, but at the moment there are almost no orders for the KVZ and many are sent on administrative holidays. This is information for consideration, and the problem with the engines is very big.
  33. marder4
    marder4 27 December 2015 21: 27 New
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    where so much to us
  34. Orionvit
    Orionvit 27 December 2015 21: 40 New
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    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: dauria
    came out at 900 per month

    Это ЛА выходило иной год под 900. А вертолётов от 300 до 400. Так что "Вертолёты России" на уровне, дай Бог и другим так.
    However, the amount left in the past. Now the emphasis in the development of arms and military equipment (and indeed) on quality. There will be neither Ka-52 helicopters, nor T-14 tanks, and many thousands, like their predecessors, are not needed.
    I'm not saying that everything is fine. A lot is still very bad. request But the example of helicopter builders is encouraging.

    В 80-е "Мотор сич", тогда ещё просто Запорожский моторостроительный завод, выпускал от 15 до 20 вертолётных двигателей в день. Афганистан много моторов съел.
  35. serg.ru
    serg.ru 27 December 2015 21: 45 New
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    Serdyukov on the board of directors of Rostec is the sunset of Russian aviation
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 27 December 2015 22: 01 New
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      Quote: serg.ru
      Serdyukov on the board of directors of Rostec

      Serdyuk come over a mess!
  36. 23424636
    23424636 28 December 2015 10: 00 New
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    I remember how they advertised a new plant under Peter Klimov. Already a couple of years have passed, but only 30 pieces ?! It’s just time to open a low-cost airline to Kolyma and everyone who is tired of an undertaking not to leave the place. It’s probably more fun to buy from Zaporizhzhya MotorSichi 117 for a look. There, in Snezhnoye, mine 18 has its branch, titanium parts do, maybe there guys will launch it faster than fat St. Petersburg cats. The salary at the mine in Snezhnoye miner is 6 thousand Russian rubles.
  37. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 December 2015 10: 48 New
    0
    Engine production is a high-margin business and the salary of the worker does not affect the final price of a helicopter or aircraft engine, but the qualification of the worker is very much affected, plus the machine park. And you need to motivate and the final result needs to be tied with Ukraine, maybe someone needs to be lured.