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Mechanical engineering design bureau: the Ukrainian sight at the Chrysanthemum-S complex will be replaced soon

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The development of the Russian sight for the Khrizantema-S ATGM system is at the final stage, TASS a message from Valery Kashin, General Designer of the Mechanical Engineering Design Bureau.




“Modernization of the anti-tank missile system" Chrysanthemum-S "is conducted mainly in connection with the program of import substitution. Earlier, optical sighting stations were made in Ukraine. Now the development of a new optical station with significantly better technical characteristics is at the final stage, ”said the designer.

According to him, television (technical vision) and thermal imaging channels were added, in particular.

“Currently, the optical station is being tested as part of the complex. In addition, additional control equipment was introduced into the complex, which will allow linear machines to interact with the higher units using an automated control system for departments: to receive target designation, and so on, ”Kashin added.

He also noted that the issue of developing new missiles is not worth it. “We are improving the existing ones - we are improving armor penetration,” the general designer explained.
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ACC / Mikhail Dzhaparidze More details on TASS: http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2559183
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  1. avvg
    avvg 27 December 2015 10: 32 New
    +5
    We can, we just need finances and want to do it.
    1. seti
      seti 27 December 2015 10: 40 New
      22
      By the way, I watched this complex at the Military Acceptance. Pride in our designers and truly innovative technology. A very useful thing both in urban battles and in open areas. Particularly impressive is its armor penetration.
      And if you replace the sight, which will probably be made even more powerful, then there will be something in general.
      This is a good example when an entirely new system is created on the basis of an outdated platform.
      1. Darkmor
        Darkmor 27 December 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        want to do it.

        You know - Russians, a very lazy people. And sometimes it seems to me that we deliberately plunge into some kind of kaku to come up with an effective way to get out of it and become stronger.
        Almost adaptation of Nietzsche’s quote to our realities.
        There would be no crisis in Ukraine; it would have to be invented.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 27 December 2015 21: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Darkmor
          And sometimes it seems to me that we specifically plunge into some kind of kaku

          And this is because of laziness - to find adventures on the ass? belay
    2. svp67
      svp67 27 December 2015 10: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: avvg
      We can, we just need finances and want to do it.

      Yes, of course, money is an important component, but they are just a "push to the process", and so well-developed applied science, modern production and trained personnel, and of course TIME are really needed.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 27 December 2015 10: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        we need well-developed applied science, modern production and trained personnel, and of course TIME

        There are serious problems with all of the factors listed by you. Especially with a temporary component - no one will give us a chance to build up.
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 December 2015 11: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          no one will give us a chance to swing.
          Better to say that "they do not give".
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 27 December 2015 11: 34 New
            0
            There are still difficulties with production - there are very few factories, and so is the equipment there of wartime. And no one knows how to solve this issue.
        2. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 28 December 2015 10: 05 New
          0
          Batka’s somehow move faster: "(22.07.15) The Chrysanthemum-S anti-tank systems were traditionally equipped with a 1K118T control device manufactured by the Ukrainian" Fotopribor ". Now the workers of the Belarusian organize the production of the sight. "
          Ours are only now born ...
    3. alone
      alone 27 December 2015 16: 37 New
      -2
      Quote: avvg
      We can, we just need finances and want to do it.

      Nobody argues that you can do this. I’m only interested in one thing: More recently, Rogozin said that the import substitution in the military-industrial complex has been successfully completed. But now it turns out that the scope for Chrysanthemum is at an advanced stage. Question: Who is lying? Rogozin or Kashin?

      And further. if you need so much time for the sight (I’m not going to blame designers and those who are involved in this business), then for other components you need even more time, and most importantly a lot of money. You need to restore entire production lines and enterprises. .

      Hence the conclusion. Rogozin, as a representative of the government, is lying. Moreover, he is open and impudent. He works for the public.
    4. g1v2
      g1v2 27 December 2015 18: 06 New
      +1
      Naturally we can, but it also takes time. According to the report of the Moscow Region to the President, by 2025 it is planned to replace 826 items of Ukrainian products for our military industrial complex. These are dozens of workshops and industries, tens of billions of dollars and 8-10 years. It was planned to replace 102 items for this year. This is not an easy and extremely large-scale process. It is clear that there are the highest priority things for which the main forces and resources, secondary and auxiliary, are requested. I think that priority things will be replaced by 2018. For example, people appeared in Samara with fresh Russian passports that help repair gas turbines for ships. Motor Sich bypasses the bans by selling engines for both civilian vehicles and is going to assemble a part in Belarus. There is a company producing drones, as they say in Crimea, production has already been transported, etc. This is a huge task after which our defense industry will become much stronger and more independent, and more effective. In addition to Ukraine, from the former Soviet republics only Belarus supplies a lot to our military-industrial complex, but this is already much smaller volumes and if it is much easier to replace them in the future.
      1. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 28 December 2015 09: 41 New
        0
        "There is a company producing drones, as they say in Crimea production has already transported"
        There is such a story with the move: "Everything is elementary: they (brothers Stepan and Arman Hakobyans) simply do not want to repay debts and work off advances!" - one of the company's clients, who has been waiting for his order for about one and a half years, told our correspondent.
        We also found a mention of YUMIK in the topic "Black list of employers" at the "Odessa Forum". According to visitors, these firms deserved an "honorable" first place in the black list. “These are the people with whom you cannot deal, they will throw you and don’t even blink an eye,” wrote a visitor to the “Odessa Forum” Pamella back in February 2010. “
    5. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 27 December 2015 18: 17 New
      0
      Quote: avvg
      We can, we just need finances and want to do it


      Just before (in the Union) there was a more or less optimal distribution of developers and manufacturers, military and civilian universities, etc. Such missiles, engines, tractors, tanks and planes, etc. makes Ukraine, such and such flight, technical schools and other military-political educational institutions located in Ukraine. And not only in the military-industrial complex. Well, you got these chrysanthemum sights, we can do without you. But it is time and money. AND NEW QUALITY.
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  2. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 27 December 2015 10: 33 New
    +4
    Previously, optical sighting stations were made in Ukraine.

    Hehe ... We don’t even buy pork in Ukraine! .. Glory to the EU and the USA!
    1. wicked pinnochio
      wicked pinnochio 27 December 2015 10: 41 New
      +6
      Ukraine itself pork already buys survived
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 27 December 2015 10: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Hehe ... We don’t even buy pork in Ukraine! .. Glory to the EU and the USA!

      For a long time it was necessary to abandon the production of components for weapons abroad. It is better to develop our own production and, at the same time, to lure specialists from those enterprises.
      1. sssla
        sssla 27 December 2015 11: 09 New
        -4
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Ukraine itself pork already buys survived

        And how much did Russia buy before the sanctions ?????
        Only after the adoption of these against Russia did it become clear how much that the program of "import substitution" had to be introduced with a creak ?????
        Before you blurt out something about the neighbor who has entered the tortilla, you need to look and see if you are standing ankle-deep in it !!!!!
        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution 27 December 2015 13: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: sssla
          And how much did Russia buy before the sanctions ?????
          Only after the adoption of these against Russia did it become clear how much that the program of "import substitution" had to be introduced with a creak ?????
          Before you blurt out something about the neighbor who has entered the tortilla, you need to look and see if you are standing ankle-deep in it !!!!!

          By August, 2015 pork increased by 3,5%, and poultry by 8%, judging by the articles.
          The fact is that the market was oversaturated with the introduction of products. a niche was freed up, more indulgences began to be given to farmers, and finally they reached a decent level in processing, processing and a variety of products (Mirotorg, as an example, you can bring a bunch of other enterprises, but if you need to find it yourself.).
          But in Ukraine, local farmers will bend after the abolition of indulgences within the country and on the market in the Russian Federation and I want to note that Ukraine is not currently under any sanctions.
          1. sssla
            sssla 27 December 2015 16: 33 New
            0
            Quote: Phantom Revolution
            But in Ukraine, local farmers will bend

            It depends on what the farmers grow !!
            If they are engaged from a number of sunflower corn, etc. then most likely not !!
            But those who work in animal husbandry may not survive, given the demands that the "government" of Ukraine accepts under the pressure of European "radishes" !!
            1. Phantom Revolution
              Phantom Revolution 27 December 2015 19: 01 New
              0
              Quote: sssla
              what farmers grow !!
              If they are engaged from a number of sunflower corn, etc. then most likely not !!

              Regarding crop production, there is also a controversial issue, which is closely connected with the same livestock breeding (there will be less buyers for animal feed). Yes, and competition with the EU is in question (most likely they will grow that they will not be able to compete with goods from the EU, for example sunflower, but it is depleting the land), if it is cheaper to buy corn from the EU, they will buy, because incomes are falling in many in Ukraine, and not only there, the crisis.
              1. sssla
                sssla 27 December 2015 20: 19 New
                +1
                Quote: Phantom Revolution
                there is also a moot point

                Well, controversial so controversial)) I have a few familiar farmers, so from their words I outlined my vision! Well, and how it will be in reality, here he himself only knows! )))
                1. Phantom Revolution
                  Phantom Revolution 27 December 2015 21: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: sssla
                  Well, controversial so controversial)) I have a few familiar farmers, so from their words I outlined my vision! Well, and how it will be in reality, here he himself only knows! )))

                  Time will tell, to be honest, it would be better if everything worked out in Ukraine, as in the whole world.)
                  1. sssla
                    sssla 28 December 2015 13: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Phantom Revolution
                    to be honest, it would be better if things worked out in Ukraine, as in the whole world.)

                    Duck we (normal and a lot of us tutochki) only FOR !!
                    Ukraine and Russia should be one whole !! (oh, they won’t blame me for a moment that I’m asking for something from Russia again ???????) And we justify the proverbs of our people that the Pans are cursing and at the lackeys forelocks are cracking! Well, with the coming of you and all in all !!
        2. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 27 December 2015 18: 06 New
          +1
          You see, a colleague ..... Then, cheap meat poured into Russia from abroad when they entered the WTO .............. It was easier to buy than to make a sin than produce it .... And By the way, prices fell sharply for meat .... Ukraine has a completely different situation, it’s just a decline and collapse ........ I think that is what Phantom = revolution meant ...
        3. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 27 December 2015 18: 33 New
          +1
          Such x ... nude, will you cut it? Has anyone said even a bad word about Ukraine (the people)? And you immediately "... are you not ankle-deep in it !!!!!"? (in cow
          the cake of your cow).
          So rejoice.
          1. sssla
            sssla 27 December 2015 20: 26 New
            -1
            Are you gonna fuck that nude?
            You’ll fuck you respected and I’m saying as is !!
            Quote: evge-malyshev
            Has anyone even said a bad word about Ukraine (people)?
            Read carefully the discussions on Ukraine !! Some get to that point in their verbal perversions that everyone living in Ukraine is equated with Bandera and stubborn !!
            An interesting situation is developing! To me, living in the territory of Ukraine, some "comrades" living somewhere in the Far East of immense Russia, according to their "friends", also allegedly living on the ter. Ukraine, they will tell you how it really is in Ukraine !!! No need to run into soft rudeness hi
            So rejoice.
            I’m not in a sect to rejoice without a cause, but you are comrades looking at how you talk obscenity, rather you are a regular there !!!
            1. sssla
              sssla 27 December 2015 20: 50 New
              0
              Quote: evge-malyshev
              So rejoice.

              Yes, and I want to ask you how old if not a secret ???
              1. sssla
                sssla 28 December 2015 00: 50 New
                -1
                Quote: sssla
                Yes, and I want to ask you

                I understand that the answer is yok !!
                Well, I didn’t expect another from the ordinary household troll !!!
        4. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 27 December 2015 18: 33 New
          0
          Such x ... nude, will you cut it? Has anyone said even a bad word about Ukraine (the people)? And you immediately "... are you not ankle-deep in it !!!!!"? (in cow
          the cake of your cow).
          So rejoice.
    3. samoletil18
      samoletil18 27 December 2015 11: 33 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Previously, optical sighting stations were made in Ukraine.

      Hehe ... We don’t even buy pork in Ukraine! .. Glory to the EU and the USA!

      Pork in lace panties ... I do not like it, in short.
  3. svp67
    svp67 27 December 2015 10: 34 New
    +3
    Well, here they are, and the REAL terms of "import substitution", and by and large and modernization ... I really hope that soon there will be more and more similar news.
  4. ejov1976
    ejov1976 27 December 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    In order not to have to use these things in Russia, you need to use them in a timely manner on distant approaches. For example, as now in Syria
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 27 December 2015 10: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: ejov1976
      In order not to have to use these things in Russia, you need to use them in a timely manner on distant approaches. For example, as now in Syria

      There are closer places wink
      1. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 28 December 2015 13: 50 New
        0
        Some valtsman did not like laughing
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 December 2015 10: 49 New
    +2
    Excellent. "Double-barrel" (Chrysanthemum) will receive Russian sighting stations, and even better than the previous ones. This is real import substitution in key industries. Testing is not a quick process.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 27 December 2015 12: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Excellent. "Double-barrel" (Chrysanthemum) will receive Russian sighting stations, and even better than the previous ones. This is real import substitution in key industries. Testing is not a quick process.

      The truth is yours. Thanks to import substitution, all equipment is being upgraded to the latest ideas and taking into account new threats. Pleases. wink
  6. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 27 December 2015 10: 55 New
    +2
    In terms of the deadlines for completing the tasks, it turns out that "we jumped like a fly, we flew like a bee". Promptly, happy. Highly. good
  7. atamankko
    atamankko 27 December 2015 11: 03 New
    +1
    It is necessary to distance ourselves from the "brothers" of Ukrainians, for at the right moment they will betray.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 27 December 2015 11: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: atamankko
      for at the right moment they will betray.

      So already betrayed. Don't you know?
  8. NDR-791
    NDR-791 27 December 2015 11: 04 New
    -1
    It looks like they only collected sights in Ukraine. Since Soviet times, Belarus has specialized in optics.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 December 2015 19: 09 New
      +1
      Ha Ha Ha. Yes, and the launch vehicles on the southerly machine are also just gathering.
  9. vmo
    vmo 27 December 2015 11: 05 New
    +1
    At last! Very happy !!!
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 December 2015 11: 07 New
    0
    Interestingly, on TV, in one program about military equipment, they proudly declared that this complex was Russian to the last screw! Or are there only our screws, and everything else is a prefab hodgepodge? And what else in Chrysanthemum will be branded “Made in from there”?
    1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 December 2015 11: 55 New
      -1
      Gentlemen otretsaly, set a minus, well, and then organize it, be adequate people
  11. GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 27 December 2015 11: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: wicked pinnochio
    Ukraine itself pork already buys survived

    ... because it tastes better with a chocolate flavor laughing
  12. Rigla
    Rigla 27 December 2015 11: 39 New
    +3
    Finally, we will squeeze out these ukrov creatures from high technology, and they don’t really need them, these traitors will be promised mercedes and yachts like why they need a defense negative
  13. Rigla
    Rigla 27 December 2015 11: 46 New
    0
    To everyone who still considers the inhabitants of Ukraine our brothers, plunge here http://forumodua.com/showthread.php?t=1417512&page=2193 They are creatures and the point
    1. andrew-z
      andrew-z 27 December 2015 13: 19 New
      0
      What exactly did you dislike about the site? Not bad political satire, in my opinion. When a similar caricature of Ukraine is posted here on VO, everyone for some reason rejoices and says "good". When something like this comes out on ukrsaytah about Russia - you are unhappy and say "bad". It's strange ...
    2. brisk
      brisk 27 December 2015 14: 27 New
      -3
      Quote: Rigla
      Rigla (4) Today, 11:46 AM
      To everyone who still considers the inhabitants of Ukraine our brothers, plunge here http://forumodua.com/showthread.php?t=1417512&page=2193 They are creatures and the point


      Yes, I think so! And brothers, and sisters, and children, and parents, and godfathers, and matchmakers ... And he himself, Russia and Ukrainian, 2 in 1. Got it? It is this specialization that you have been singled out here --- graze and inspire to the most respectable public which Ukrainians are bad? I have been watching you for a long time. Who would have poured explicit slops on Ukraine and Ukrainians, the most smelly slops? And Joseph Vissarionovich Rigla is always ready! It will not be surprising to find out that you are actually a Lviv law-maker from the glorious myster Lvov from the ideological front that has been removed. With a certain Lviv Internet-kavjarni, scribble and incite anti-Russian passions, through anti-Ukrainian passions. You are a skimmer, you didn’t exist even further than the project under the USSR And I served the actual urgent USSR-ovskoy. Even not in the spoiled Gorbachev USSR. Clear?
    3. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 December 2015 18: 53 New
      0
      To everyone who still considers the inhabitants of Ukraine our brothers, plunge here http://forumodua.com/showthread.php?t=1417512&page=2193 They are creatures and the point ................. .................................................. ........
      .................................................. ..............................
      ............ Hear the EBA.lo. close. Yes and you definitely aren’t my brother maximum sister!
  14. acetophenon
    acetophenon 27 December 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Rigla
    To everyone who still considers the inhabitants of Ukraine our brothers, plunge here http://forumodua.com/showthread.php?t=1417512&page=2193 They are creatures and the point

    If you went to the toilet, looking for an icon there and resenting the presence of a toilet would be utter frivolity. IMHO.
  15. Rigla
    Rigla 27 December 2015 14: 00 New
    +1
    I do not care, as it were, the main thing is that the traitors to the Ukrainians would feel bad.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 27 December 2015 19: 03 New
      0
      Well you and! people with?
  16. tinibar
    tinibar 27 December 2015 14: 17 New
    0
    Quote: avvg
    We can, we just need finances and want to do it.

    Finances, for them to be sufficient, it is enough to stop plundering, and desire alone is not enough, the POLITICAL WILL OF THE LEADERSHIP is needed, and in the leadership we, unfortunately, have a lot of "random" people ...
  17. pts-m
    pts-m 27 December 2015 14: 23 New
    -1
    there is nothing to remember about the ruin. as they say ... she died so died ... urine hi corrects the words in her hymn. it disappears from the text ... not ... but the lard in their head instead of brains. hai proud of their intelligence.
  18. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 December 2015 14: 51 New
    0
    Chrysanthemums - Ptur large caliber, for the reserve of defense of tank dangerous directions. One. Missiles are enough for any tank. In the portable version of this complex is not, the rocket is heavy. Interestingly, they plan to install similar systems on helicopters and Su 25. Helicopter radars are already standing ....?
  19. prosto_rgb
    prosto_rgb 28 December 2015 01: 22 New
    0
    so it’s already sort of replaced
    That video from the TV channel Star about this complex can be seen with a new sight.
  20. Pattor
    Pattor 28 December 2015 14: 49 New
    0
    Again zvizdezh. We lie all the time. The sight on the Chrysanthemum is not Russian, it is made by the "Peleng" RB.