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A little about kirzachah

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In 1904, Russian inventor Mikhail Mikhailovich Pomortsev received a new material - kersey: canvas fabric, impregnated with a mixture of paraffin, rosin and egg yolk. The properties of the new, very cheap material were very similar to the skin: it did not let in moisture, but it also breathed. True, its purpose at first was rather narrow: during the Russo-Japanese War, ammunition for horses, bags and covers for artillery were made of kersey.


Pomortsev's material was appreciated, it was already decided to let out boots from a kersey, but their production was not adjusted at that time. Mikhail Mikhailovich died, and the boots that were not made were, so to speak, put aside for almost twenty years.

Soldier’s shoes owed his second birth to chemist Ivan Vasilyevich Plotnikov, a native of the Tambov Region, a graduate of the Dmitri Mendeleev Moscow Chemical Technology Institute. The country had established production of "kirzachs", but their first use showed that in the cold the boots cracked, hardened and became brittle. We collected a special commission, asked Ivan Vasilyevich:
- Why is your kersey so cold and not breathing?
“Because the bull and the cow have not yet shared with us all their secrets,” answered the chemist.

For such audacity Plotnikov, of course, could be punished. However, this was not done. He was commissioned to improve the technology of production of kersey.

... The Great Patriotic War began. The importance of comfortable and cheap soldier's shoes turned out to be so significant that Kosygin himself was in charge of this question. After all, the army demanded enormous material resources, neither army shoes nor boots were sorely lacking. Leather shoes were just not doing anything. And the Soviet government even issued a closed order on the start of production of bast shoes for the Red Army, in order to put on soldiers at least for summer time and have time to resolve the issue with boots.

At the beginning of the war, Ivan Vasilyevich Plotnikov was taken to the Moscow militia. However, after a few weeks, many scientists were returned to the rear. Plotnikov was appointed director and at the same time the chief engineer of the Kozhimit plant and set the task in the shortest possible time to improve the manufacturing technology of tarpaulin boots.

Plotnikov coped with the task in a short time - by the end of 1941, the production of boots was established in the city of Kirov, where he worked at that time.



Many people think that the kirsa got its name precisely because Kirov became the first production city (Kirza in abbreviated form - Kirovsky Zavod). And there is an opinion that the boots are named so because they were originally made using coarse wool fabric, originating in the English village of Kersey, where they had long been breeding special breed sheep. There is also a version that the shoe "name" came from the name of the cracked and frozen top layer of the earth - kersey (remember, the first kersey also turned out to be brittle in the cold).

So, the production was adjusted. The boots were immediately highly appreciated by the soldiers: high - no swamp, almost impermeable, but breathable. The upper leg protects against mechanical damage, injury and burns. Another undoubted advantage: there is no need for laces and zippers. However, wearing a kirzachi was very inconvenient: after a few hours, the sock would certainly hit the heel and there would be calluses. And it turned out to be difficult to provide the whole army with socks of the required size. Russian savvy came to the rescue: footballers! Once they are wrapped correctly around the leg, the problem is solved. Moreover, in the case of wetting, they can be wound down with the other side - and the leg will still remain dry, and the wet edge of the fabric will dry out, wrapped around the ankle. In the cold, the soldiers would wind several sisters at once, and lay newspapers in the spacious leg of the kirzachs: an air corridor was created and at the same time a layer - and it was kept warm. And what to say that you can make a footwoman with anything. To her it is not necessary to pick up a pair and look for the right size. The lines themselves come to mind from the famous Kataev's story The Son of the Regiment:

“...- So, shepherd,” said Bidenko sternly, instructively, “it comes out that you didn’t make a real soldier, let alone an artilleryman. What kind of battery are you, if you don’t even know how to wrap a footcloth as expected? No you are not a battery, friend of the heart .... So, one thing: you have to teach you how to wrap footcloths, as every cultural warrior should be. And this will be your first soldier science. Look

With these words, Bidenko spread his footcloth on the floor and firmly put his bare foot on it. He put it a little obliquely, closer to the edge, and this triangular edge slipped under the fingers. Then he strongly pulled the long side of the footcloth, so that not a single wrinkle appeared on it. He slightly admired the tight cloth and suddenly, with lightning speed, with a light, precise air movement, he grabbed his leg, wrapped the heel abruptly around the cloth, intercepted with his free hand, made a sharp corner and wrapped the rest of his leg around the ankle in two turns. Now his leg was tight, without a single wrinkle, was swaddled like a child ... ”

Of course, the boots did not shine with beauty and grace, as, for example, American boots. However, here is a quote from the book of General O. Bredley, the author of the book "History of a soldier ”:“ By the end of January (this is the last military winter of 1944-1945), the disease of foot rheumatism reached such a large size that the American command was at a standstill. We were completely unprepared for this disaster, partly as a result of our own negligence; by the time we started instructing the soldiers, what kind of foot care is needed and what needs to be done so that the boots do not get wet, rheumatism has already spread throughout the army with the swiftness of the plague. About twelve thousand people got sick and because of this, their boots, consider, destroyed a whole American division in a month. The Soviet Army did not know this misfortune ... "

By the end of the Great Patriotic War, the Red Army numbered about ten million soldiers shod with tarpaulin shoes. The effectiveness of this production in the early years was approximately thirty million rubles a year.

And what about the Carpenters? For his invention in April 1942, he was awarded the Stalin Prize. During his life he prepared about 200 scientific and technical works, received more than fifty copyright certificates. Ivan Vasilyevich lived to a great old age and died in the year 1995. Today his name is the vocational school number XXUMX of the village of Novikova: previously it was a parochial school, which Ivan Vasilievich graduated from.

And in the village of Star Perm region a monument to tarpaulin boots is erected. They are made in such a way that anyone can try them on.

A little about kirzachah


It remains to add this. Not far from my house, literally a ten-minute walk, there is a small army shop. I recently went there and talked to the seller: do the kirzacs take these days? Take. They are in great demand among hunters and fishermen. As a comment, the seller listed me the excellent properties of these boots. But I already wrote about them above.
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  1. Glot
    Glot 29 December 2015 06: 49 New
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    Yes, kirzachi and footcloths, this thing! Convenient, easy and simple.
    I had boots in the army, but rarely walked in them. Mostly he dragged boots with footcloths.
    1. jjj
      jjj 29 December 2015 13: 03 New
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      In winter, by the way, in the Red and Soviet Armies relied boots and quilted cotton pants
      1. kaa_andrey
        kaa_andrey 29 December 2015 14: 13 New
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        I would like to quote from the movie "Only Old Men Go to Battle"
        "" So - The boot is more reliable in battle ""
        Thanks for the interesting stuff.
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 29 December 2015 15: 28 New
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          I’ll keep my shoe in the canvas
          I'll take it to my war museum
          And put it under the glass
          What are we to her
          Lucky ...

          Stan Golem
          1. anew
            anew 29 December 2015 18: 50 New
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            Quote: Alena Frolovna
            Lucky ...

            More fortunate not even with boots, but with footcloths. Immediately four pairs of unbreakable fresh socks in the form of two footcloths. There are many things to replace boots with, these are yuft, yalow, and chrome. Although for large parties, there is no alternative to kirzachs early. But footcloths have nothing to replace.
      2. kyznets
        kyznets 29 December 2015 17: 36 New
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        In winter, we also issued clothcloths. I wound them over thin hebe footcloths. Fully felt boots were not replaced, but were very warm. And even between these two footcloths if you lay a newspaper from below as an insole, it’s generally warm. The child served in the Marine Corps 2014-2015 urgent year. I looked at their shoes. Of course, winter boots are warm, good, but I believe that replacing boots and tarpaulin boots without losing quality is so far unrealistic. Yes, and footcloths to replace with socks is impractical. The footcloth and wash easier and dry, as explained in the article. And most importantly: a footcloth (correctly wound), you will never erase your feet.
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 29 December 2015 17: 57 New
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          I wound them over thin hebe footcloths
          And on the contrary, at first I wound the cloth, and on top - x \ b. It was better - the wool absorbed sweat better, and on top of the cotton cloth, the cloth protected the woolen from abrasion, and, moreover, the cotton cloth under the cotton kept the heat better. And compared to socks, foot cloth is much more practical. The main thing is to wrap it correctly. soldier
          And in a foreign country (MPR) he wore yuft. The latter, of course, are more durable for abrasion (leg by foot - and the kirsa was wiped much earlier than the yuft), but this is how someone walks. But the tarpaulin is much easier and does not freeze in the cold. Sometimes you come from the guard to the barracks from the frost (-40С), and the shafts are already made white in the heat, and in the training (Chita) the kirsa did not turn white, although there and there the frosts were not children.
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 19: 27 New
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            Quote: Black Colonel
            and in the study (Chita) the kirsa didn’t turn white,

            Humidity is different in the air in winter. We have on the Kolsky Square, where the Gulf Stream does not freeze and when -25 boots stand on end.
            1. Aqela
              Aqela 2 January 2016 08: 37 New
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              Just wanted to say the same. I visited both Chita and Ulan Bator. There is a lot of snow in Chita, and in Mongolia, even with severe frosts, it will sprinkle slightly ... and then, more likely, frost than snow. So, I think, in the barracks the air was more humid than on the street, which is why the boots were white.
        2. uwzek
          uwzek 29 December 2015 19: 19 New
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          Quote: kyznets
          In winter, we also issued clothcloths.

          In fact, they were flannel (cloth, just issued in the summer, but in winter they did not give out). Although, the small (but not always unimportant) features of the service for all may differ. We didn’t wash the footcloths (they were taken to the laundry). Thu such a footcloth (and how to wind it correctly) I still know. But you must admit: washing a sock is much faster than a large footcloth. That is, either you proudly boast that your wife always erases your socks, or simply repeat the hackneyed stamp.
          By the way, it’s not the sock or the footcloth that erases the leg, but the discrepancy between the actual size of the person’s legs and the standard step of the pads (I’ve marched and wore barefoot in my boots, I have such a good leg, size 43, of an army shoe block).
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 30 December 2015 06: 41 New
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            That's right! Flannel footcloths were given to us .And when we changed the linen on the bathing day, we also changed the footcloths.
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 31 July 2016 15: 10 New
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            We changed footcloths in the bathhouse. Dirty passed, clean received. But it was necessary to wash between the baths (usually rinsed and squeezed) so that the stench would not stand in the barracks. They simply did not respect those who have smelly footcloths.
            Looks like footcloths were all sorts depending on the climate. I served in the Far East in the Primorsky Territory. In summer there were ordinary cotton, and in winter a couple of flannel (winter) ones were added. Feet froze if it was cold, but newspaper or wool socks from home helped. They did not chase us for them.
        3. 97110
          97110 30 December 2015 12: 31 New
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          Quote: kyznets
          And most importantly: a footcloth (correctly wound), you will never erase your feet.

          And you learn to wind the footcloth well by rubbing your leg. Who was not trained before the army. For example me...
        4. Lord of Wrath
          Lord of Wrath 1 January 2016 05: 37 New
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          Quote: kyznets
          footcloths to replace with socks is impractical. Footcloth and wash easier and dry

          Yes, how much can these tales of highland give out then?
          Like a dirty wet rag wrapped around his leg, he folded it differently, wound it like a new one. Or that wrapping a footcloth over a bolt will protect against unwanted pregnancy.
          In the courtyard of the 21 century, forget about the tarpaulin govnodavs, footcloths and the combat effectiveness of the Mosin rifle.
          Example, only the Soviet government forced the Cossacks to pick up the Mosin rifle, and before that 30 years went with the Berdan rifle. So what if it’s single-shot, a good shooter and one bullet are enough, and the bayonet is well done. Let the smoky gunpowder, but the caliber is larger, and less need to be cleaned
          1. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 26 November 2016 23: 03 New
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            glass horseradish for five minutes, I didn’t see it right away, the footcloth is good to rewind on a halt, and my legs breathe and do not freeze in the dry right away, -40 it's felt boots, and in the middle strip the tarpaulin is good, in autumn and spring, well and in winter if not frosts, and if you run on a simulator, you do not need anything except sports slippers
        5. tundra
          tundra 1 January 2016 06: 54 New
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          And in Kamchatka we had three kinds of footcloths, black (felts wool felts h.B), flannel and cloth (summer). We always wound one at a time, well, in the summer they preferred flannel (and it is denser and sweats less) and the boots were thickened the sole.
      3. clidon
        clidon 29 December 2015 22: 54 New
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        There was a lot that was supposed to be in the war, but not enough - my grandfather and his part saw the boots only in the summer of 1944. Before that, boots with windings. And according to conversations from other parts - the boots were given out once (for 3 years of service), and if they went bad they would give out the same boots. There were enough of them.
      4. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 30 December 2015 06: 36 New
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        Oh, I still remember “kirzachi”, and army boots, and cotton trousers, and “padded jackets” under the overcoat, and “Karaulovsky” sheepskin coat, and winter nights in cold kungs or tents .... all the difficulties were nevermind ".... because it was all" in front "
      5. orsker
        orsker 30 December 2015 12: 23 New
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        Well, yes, he did. It was necessary ...
    2. uwzek
      uwzek 29 December 2015 19: 01 New
      +8
      Quote: Glot
      I had boots in the army, but rarely walked in them. Mostly he dragged boots with footcloths.

      In the army, in fact, no one carried anything. The uniform is determined by order. For the soldiers, the boots were supposed to be used only for the full dress without a belt (only when fired), the officers did not wear a tarpaulin.
      Even with my very comfortable (from the point of view of physical load on shoes) service in the army, not a single tarpaulin boot was able to withstand any serious wear period of 8 months without serious damage (previously it was a year). In the field (especially during periods of slaughter), such shoes fall apart in a month maximum. The tarpaulin top is rubbed on the inevitable folds. Of course, his "famous" water resistance and heat protection immediately disappear.
      Dermantin - he even remained in the Soviet Army.
      1. Lekov L
        Lekov L 30 December 2015 00: 09 New
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        Kirsa in the army rushed as it should be and still remained the next generations.
        I will not speak for the Kola Peninsula, New Land and Kushka - I do not know ..
        I know for the Kostroma, Yaroslavl, Nizhny Novgorod provinces and Balkhash.
        According to the status I was supposed to wear chrome and yal, but with pleasure, especially in the heat, I wore a kersey.
        Moreover, all the “running” boots were from a “special” SPECIAL WAY of worn kirszas.
        Who crosses on sports holidays at the weekend ran he remembers.
        Sincerely.
        Shl. sneakers bylaws were not comme il faut.
        1. BVTKKU86
          BVTKKU86 30 December 2015 20: 30 New
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          The accuracy of 1982, from Blagoveshchensk to Germany, I can confirm!
      2. Glot
        Glot 30 December 2015 06: 25 New
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        In the army, in fact, no one carried anything. The uniform is determined by order. For the soldiers, the boots were supposed to be used only for the full dress without a belt (only when fired), the officers did not wear a tarpaulin.


        Man, as they say: It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines. laughing
        Have you heard about the so-called “berets”? In our country, they really were called "jumping boots". There were winter and summer. And to wear what you want, or what is, what where I could put on, what is convenient - they wore it. Boots, berets, sneakers / sneakers, everyone decided for himself. So is the whole form. Especially when in an RPG somewhere, or oil the far flank. Here, such a hodgepodge came out, who was in such a big deal. Just upset and yet, all lovers of the statutory life. laughing Neither hemming, nor insignia or identification of affiliation, too, often did not exist at all. Both on footwear, and on clothes. Something was given out, something was exchanged, something was completely bought or sent from the house.
        Such is the service.
        And you say, "determined by order" ...
        They are often somewhere in the charters, far-o-o-o-o ... Where there are equipped barracks, parade-ground, and so on. And I’ve been in a tent for two years, at distant “points” in “Form No. 8”. laughing Do you know how to translate? That cn **** is something we wear. laughing
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 8 July 2016 22: 30 New
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          Do you know how to translate? That cn **** is something we wear.

          In the mid-80s he served in a special communications battalion. We were given the summer ones, but we ran cross-country and march-throws in kirzach. They are both lighter and their legs breathe. For 2 years of service he ran more than 18 years before that passed. hi
      3. 97110
        97110 30 December 2015 12: 37 New
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        Quote: uwzek
        officers did not wear a kersey

        The "partisans" wore. According to the rules of clothing allowance, if memory serves, officers received new uniforms, including tarpaulin boots. In fact, in 1981 he received a new training camp, in 1986 all the partisans dressed in second-hand clothes.
      4. Lord of Wrath
        Lord of Wrath 1 January 2016 19: 58 New
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        Quote: uwzek
        Nobody carried anything in the army. The uniform is determined by order.

        Ugums) it infuriated wild-ear-flaps worn from October 11 to April 11 and ears in a hat can be lowered by order of the commander-in-chief or at -25
    3. rfnthtirf
      rfnthtirf 29 December 2015 19: 25 New
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      I was not in the army, but I had an excellent father who taught me to wrap footcloths in the evenings. And when it didn’t work out, patiently showed it again and again. And I was about 10. When I gave birth to my first child, I swaddled all the children in the hospital, as if I had been doing this all my life. Only then I realized where the skills came from.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 19: 35 New
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        Quote: rfnthtirf
        When she gave birth to her first child, she swaddled all the children in the hospital, as if she had been doing this all her life.

        Itishkin light, the darkest thing is grandmothers, they are in the family house. laughing Especially then who will be responsible for the grandchildren, the check will be answered. At the moment, dad and mom can relax. Grandfathers and grandmother to what! laughing
        So advice, give birth .... laughing
        But by the time I’m getting close, grandchildren, already a cousin and then ... laughing
        1. 97110
          97110 30 December 2015 12: 38 New
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          Quote: marshes
          But by the time I’m getting close, grandchildren, already a cousin and then ...

          Twice grandfather, we are waiting for more.
    4. Nick
      Nick 29 December 2015 21: 31 New
      +7
      Quote: Glot
      Yes, kirzachi and footcloths, this thing! Convenient, easy and simple.
      I had boots in the army, but rarely walked in them. Mostly he dragged boots with footcloths.

      In SA, Kirza was used only on the top, the shoe was made of cowhide. The drawback of tarpaulin boots was that with constant wear they were wiped to holes in the ankle area after five to six months. The most practical and comfortable boots that I had to wear in the army are yuft boots with a thick microporous sole. Comfortable, the leg is at home, socks and waterproof, The main thing is that on micropore the preventive maintenance should be changed and printed.
      1. 97110
        97110 30 December 2015 12: 40 New
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        Quote: Nick
        The most practical and comfortable boots that I had to wear in the army are yuft

        0,5 kg is heavier than steam than tarpaulin. Weighed in due time.
        1. Nick
          Nick 31 December 2015 14: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: 97110
          Quote: Nick
          The most practical and comfortable boots that I had to wear in the army are yuft

          0,5 kg is heavier than steam than tarpaulin. Weighed in due time.

          But more durable, and most importantly comfortable
    5. Served once
      Served once 30 December 2015 10: 49 New
      +6
      One of the best army kirzachi memories! smile It’s convenient, fast, always dry and comfortable. And the smell! You go after the lights out when you are on duty in the company. A mixture of mastic, tarpaulin, laundry soap and footcloths. It's something. It smells like Guys. hi
      1. 97110
        97110 30 December 2015 12: 42 New
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        Quote: Served once
        And the smell!

        In the tent USB-56 (I remember the name by rumor), we must fight back with the entire platoon. If you enter a tent that has already been broken off, the smell hurts your eyes.
      2. Served once
        Served once 30 December 2015 16: 59 New
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        I argue with anyone and argue that it’s better that I’m not going to and I’m not going to worse. I spent two years honestly in kirzach and footcloths. This is My Memory. Like the Memory of my colleagues from Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia and other former republics of the USSR. My opinion is that the shoes are excellent. And if suddenly the “partners” decide to teach us the basics of “democracy” in land combat, I’ll put on the Kirzachi again and jump in t-54,55,62,72, mtlb, ats, pt-76 or whatever remains after the preemptive strikes hi Well, let progress give the Russian army new “kirzachi”, t-34 and ak-47. Let the new army of Russia dress and arm in a new way, it should be so. Generation from 40 to 60 and in the old fashion will agree to put on shoes, arm yourself and if it is necessary to give life for the homeland. soldier All with the Coming! And so that there is no war ...
        1. Fedor and Co.
          Fedor and Co. 30 December 2015 17: 19 New
          +2
          I support! The fascists will not come to us!
        2. 30BIS
          30BIS 30 December 2015 21: 39 New
          -15
          .Generation from 40 to 60 and in the old fashion will agree to put on shoes, arm and .... Well, let them put on the skins of cave bears, bast shoes, take a stone ax from their hands and shout Aaa !! Tudyt your bother !!! They will run to reactive systems. Rapid-firing machine guns, the latest tanks, infantry dressed in the latest uniforms and personal defense systems .. A kind of Budyonny cavalry on enemy tank columns. Throw you cap-bail! Russians are smart and talented people! The people are the winner! Worthy of the world's best weapons and uniforms! Glory to Russia!!!!
    6. 30BIS
      30BIS 30 December 2015 13: 01 New
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      Mr. .. my friend these are your kirzachi ... and footcloths. They have fulfilled their role. For the poor and the vast country, this was the way out. And if now shoe the army in kirzachi and footcloths - a shame! Shoes should be leather, comfortable, Lightweight, warm, not wet. Everything else kirzachi and footcloths ...
      1. 30BIS
        30BIS 30 December 2015 15: 15 New
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        Well, the club in the Stone Age is a super weapon. Progress is inevitable. Well, if you like kirzachi and footcloths that way .. Dress and wear without taking off. Good luck to everyone in the New Year !!
        1. Aqela
          Aqela 2 January 2016 08: 49 New
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          And what do you actually have against clubs? Or are few such devices used now? If, for example, a rubber baton, or folding telescopic, or has a handle on the side, then the mechanics of use remain the same. A club - it is a club, even “supertenological”. request
      2. gangut
        gangut 31 December 2015 15: 49 New
        +1
        Leather and comfortable shoes are in peacetime and at your expense, and when kneading there is no need for such snot. why now soldiers are wearing berets and socks I don’t understand
    7. romanru4
      romanru4 31 December 2015 09: 59 New
      +3
      Correctly! For the war in the vastness of Russia and Europe in a temperate climate - just right! In hot climates, these shoes are not only useless, but also harmful. So where are we going to fight?
    8. Alekseev
      Alekseev 31 December 2015 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Glot
      kirzachi and footcloths, this thing!

      That's right!
      Cheap and cheerful.
      But modern kirzachi. They only have shafts from kirsa, a leather block, a rubber sole, with grousers. Spring boots, of course, are stronger, but heavier and more expensive.
      And footcloths are, of course, an unsurpassed thing for the field. Is it possible to compare any socks in size with them, which means softness, thermal insulation, absorbent ability and ease of manufacture.
    9. Gato
      Gato 31 December 2015 18: 03 New
      +1
      In a hot climate and in the mountains of kirzachi - the worst thing you can think of. Soviet mountain boots, too. The roller coaster with hooks is the most, but in those days it was very difficult to get them.
    10. Aqela
      Aqela 2 January 2016 08: 33 New
      +1
      The ability to reel footcloths came in handy for me when wearing rubber boots. Sometimes he even wrapped footcloths over his socks. An unexpected effect was obtained: 1) the socks did not slip when socked, 2) in wet weather, the socks were always dry, all the moisture was removed by footcloths, drying and washing of footcloths was not a tricky thing.
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 3 January 2016 06: 18 New
        +1
        The footcloths were worn on 1-2 years, forced by the commanders. Then, anyway, they all put on their socks, in winter + woolen that my mother sent, self-knitted. And crosses ran as before, and legs did not wash. As for hygiene, if you are not a pig, you don’t have to stretch a pair of socks before the end of the scrap. Gentlemen, well, do not so praise what the country, due to necessity, offered to wear a soldier. So close to admire the bast shoes, they also breathed very well, and they grew on every birch, and how many newspapers can be crammed into them! laughing
  2. goody
    goody 29 December 2015 06: 51 New
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    Additional purely Russian things, except matryoshka, balalaika and vodka ...
    Good morning to all forum users!
    1. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 29 December 2015 09: 31 New
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      Good
      From the article it is clear that production was established at the end of the 41st. And now let’s recall what the traitor (“Day M”) Rezun wrote: inspiredly lied about the mountains of boots before the war. Allegedly they exchanged cheap tarpaulin for expensive leather along the entire border, and this, in his opinion, clearly proved that Stalin was going to attack first. Say, you can’t appear in front of civilized Europeans in bad boots.

      This is his revelation, with the exception of his mistakes regarding aviation, was the first thing that struck me as a clear lie: didn’t you accidentally paint your tank and machine gun in glamorous pink? To Europeans like it.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 19: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: vladimir_krm
        Allegedly exchanged cheap tarpaulin for expensive leather

        They were boots, but not so practical, because "- Because the bull and the cow have not yet shared all their secrets with us," the chemist answered. " But the replacement of boots on the border is certainly a lie. Everyone remembers shoes with windings. But officer were yuftovye.
      2. uwzek
        uwzek 29 December 2015 19: 41 New
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        Quote: vladimir_krm
        From the article it is clear that production was established at the end of the 41st.

        Production was established in 1904 (as stated in the article). Always (tarpaulin shoes) was considered an ersatz, was never perceived as a full-fledged army in the field. Perhaps, after improvements to the start of World War II, it slightly improved its properties or reduced the cost of production.
        Kirsi praises are sung by people who have never once spent more than nine hours in a row without changing shoes ...
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 December 2015 19: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: uwzek
          Kirsi praises are sung by people who have never once spent more than nine hours in a row without changing shoes ...

          Wow, 24 is not enough! laughing Damn, I’m not in the understanding-kirsa is better than chrome, yufti or yal. Damn it Slippers. laughing
          1. Beaver
            Beaver 29 December 2015 21: 29 New
            +7
            Yuft boots are actually “armored boots” that perfectly protect the legs from mechanical damage, while being heavy like weights. Their outlines are fastened by the same technology as on the Kirzach, namely, they are nailed with shoe cloves. I once had a lot of leather tops in excellent condition, with dropped soles.
            Kirzachi is much lighter in weight, but rubbed quickly on the folds, yes, yes. What's better? I think it all depends on the task. hi
            PS Even the yuft and chrome boots did not have a “tread” on the soles, which made them extremely slippery.
            1. marshes
              marshes 29 December 2015 21: 39 New
              +2
              Quote: Castor
              PS Even the yuft and chrome boots did not have a “tread” on the soles, which made them extremely slippery.

              But what’s the shoemaker? Yes, the leather sole, like expensive shoes, people probably forgot, I like oxford shoes, Cossacks, Rubber bands are glued even in parts, the shoemakers had everything ...
              1. Xsanchez
                Xsanchez 30 December 2015 19: 14 New
                +2
                In tarpaulin boots, the top was tarpaulin, from below, like a shoe made of yuft leather, and the sole was a piece of wood, because the sole consisted of 2 layers: the first layer of fiberboard, the second layer of pressed leather. The sole was lined with shoe carnations. The soldiers covered their legs by foot while rubbing their shafts at the fold. In winter, the leather sole froze, becoming stiff, and began to glide strongly. -for this, many knocked out the sole (fortunately leather) with small horseshoes in front and behind. As a result, in the summer, at night, on the parade ground, many of them clicked and beat sparks when walking.
                In the second year, they gave us new boots: the top is tarpaulin, the bottom is yuft, and the sole is made of foamed polyurethane, about 10-15 mm thick, with a grooved tread, and with a solid heel of the same material, the top of the bootleg was pulled by a strap. the mass seemed very light, with a soft sole (like sneakers) .Later, they began to put such a sole on berets.
        2. anew
          anew 29 December 2015 20: 03 New
          14
          Quote: uwzek
          Kirsi praises are sung by people who have never once spent more than nine hours in a row without changing shoes ...

          It seems that from 6 to 22 hours more than 9 hours will be. And so, every day, except vsk. And outfits. And nothing. I join the opinion that the kirzachi is completely nothing.
          1. 26rus
            26rus 29 December 2015 23: 29 New
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            Quote: anew
            Quote: uwzek
            Kirsi praises are sung by people who have never once spent more than nine hours in a row without changing shoes ...

            It seems that from 6 to 22 hours more than 9 hours will be. And so, every day, except vsk. And outfits. And nothing. I join the opinion that the kirzachi is completely nothing.

            But on the guard, that’s all 24. It seems that the author of this opus of boots didn’t wear a boot. soldier
            1. wandlitz
              wandlitz 30 December 2015 04: 43 New
              +4
              During the exercises, the boots were never removed for days. You rewind the footcloth and walk on.
            2. Xsanchez
              Xsanchez 30 December 2015 19: 17 New
              +2
              Who was not in the army can not understand all the charm of slippers!
            3. Kindzadza
              Kindzadza 31 December 2015 20: 14 New
              +1
              plyusuyu.sam in the security company 2 years departed.
            4. visitork67
              visitork67 3 January 2016 21: 43 New
              0
              Maybe they had a quiet hour in the mega-super-Nazi part. And the boots were two sizes smaller, and even left and right were forced to change so that the enemies thought that a group of disabled children had passed. fool
        3. vladimir_krm
          vladimir_krm 30 December 2015 10: 38 New
          +2
          Hehe. 9 hours ... I was in outfits in my clothes, it’s 24 hours plus 3 hours round trip. That's where the "pleasure" is! Changing shoes in a tarpaulin is a pipe dream.
      3. Senior manager
        Senior manager 5 June 2017 08: 02 New
        0
        Do not remember the name of the devil (Rezun), for nothing.
  3. samoletil18
    samoletil18 29 December 2015 07: 01 New
    38
    How many nasty things I heard about the kirsachs! But he served two years in them, at the institute for potatoes, to the army in the forest-taiga ... The main thing is that there was something to rewind the tailor from. And I never thought that their origin was difficult. What's there, ordinary kirsa. And to the Victory, she contributed, everything beyond the asphalt was passed by the pickaxes.
    I don’t know what is there with socks and new shoes for the army, but as a doctor, as a person who served an emergency, I would recommend that the kirzachis and tailors not be forgotten. Hygiene, and with a certain dexterity, they will allow you to get into action faster on alarm than in socks with lace-up boots. I hope the current uniform has incorporated the experience of the past.
    1. miv110
      miv110 29 December 2015 11: 29 New
      30
      I remember how much noise and cod there was when the footcloths in the army were abolished as a wild anachronism. And our army tortured those footcloths in battles. In addition to the above advantages, it should be noted that the footcloths were mainly made of linen fabric, which in itself has excellent hygienic properties and this avoids skin diseases of the feet. How many pairs of socks in the army today wear out against a pair of footcloths - who knows?
      1. Glot
        Glot 29 December 2015 12: 15 New
        34
        I remember how much noise and cod there was when the footcloths in the army were abolished as a wild anachronism. And our army tortured those footcloths in battles. In addition to the above advantages, it should be noted that the footcloths were mainly made of linen fabric, which in itself has excellent hygienic properties and this avoids skin diseases of the feet. How many pairs of socks in the army today wear out against a pair of footcloths - who knows?


        It's right. And you can adapt a lot to the footcloth if it is not. And socks, they are socks. Although we had unique ones, they wound foot-wraps under the boots (berets).
        I remember once I regretted it so much that I put on my boots with footcloths as usual, but decided to go in "jumps". On Shuroabad, he was running over the hills, almost knee-deep in the snow, and his legs were frozen. When it was all over, I burst into the “shishigi” body, I don’t feel the legs, I decided to take off my shoes. And they all froze wet, FIG shoelaces untie. Cut it. Then it all pulled off with difficulty. If my boots with footcloth would be on me, once and done. And the footcloths would dry quickly. In general, at such moments you understand what is what. And no matter who the boot with the partyka, calling them an anachronism, is a very, very erroneous name.
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      3. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 29 December 2015 13: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: miv110
        How many pairs of socks in the army today wear


        5 pairs are given to a fighter for a week
        1. uwzek
          uwzek 29 December 2015 20: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Kostoprav
          5 pairs are given to a fighter for a week

          And where do these norms come from?
      4. Archon
        Archon 29 December 2015 16: 47 New
        +9
        How many pairs of socks in the army today wear out against a pair of footcloths - who knows?

        When Serdyukov served. Everything depended on the decision of the foreman and officers. There is an option when for each a certain number of pairs of summer and winter socks is allocated, but it turns out that they are saved on employees and employees have to buy their own socks. And there are probably parts where everything is normally given out to everyone. Much more problems arose with shoelaces. Shoelaces are torn, and then they steal from colleagues, then disassembly, abuse, etc. begin. In general, the weak point is not socks, but laces.
        I hope the situation has improved now
        Kirzachev did not wear, and in general there were enough military boots. The only thing is that it is very cold in the severe frost, because they are all-weather, not insulated. Although at various exercises we were given boots and it was relatively warm in them (if the size fit and the boots are not too "wooden"), there was a case when I had to stand for a long time on the seashore in December early morning in berets. And then many of their legs did not feel from the cold - even though active physical exercises helped keep warm.
        1. Xsanchez
          Xsanchez 30 December 2015 19: 28 New
          +2
          In winter, on guard, they gave us boots and a sheepskin coat with a length of half. If you go into the guardhouse without sweeping the snow from the boots, then you go to the next guard in wet boots. Besides, it’s not important in galoshes or without, it’ll get wet in wet snow. Therefore, boots were put on in severe frosts, and if there was a thaw, then boots were also taken, and a couple of flannel footcloths from the foreman were with them.
          1. stopkran
            stopkran 31 December 2015 09: 49 New
            +2
            The sentry is a “living corpse” wrapped in a sheepskin coat, instructed to tears and exposed to frost. )))
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 29 December 2015 13: 00 New
      +9
      Everything is right and everything is right. For a soldier, the best shoes, if properly selected for the season. In winter, we were given two pairs of footcloths in Khabarovsk, flannel and cloth, so those who did not have the practice of wearing boots before the army, or at least did not know how to wear them and what they were wearing, initially felt uncomfortable. Because, upon receiving the uniform, the boots were taken to fit the size of the wearable shoes, and two footcloths, of course, could not be wound.
    3. uwzek
      uwzek 29 December 2015 19: 58 New
      -11
      Quote: samoletil18
      with a certain dexterity, they will allow you to get into action faster on alarm than in socks with lace-up boots.

      At the forefront, warriors sleep in uniforms. Behind the rear, an alarm rise, on the contrary, does not require haste. You should calmly (it’s better deliberately slow) to dress, be lazy to get locked combat equipment (if it does not contain ammunition, you can not soar further: at least a couple of hours of delay). For the alarm commanders, who take much longer than You lace up the boot (even if the whole part fits you to lace up her boots) ...
      I apologize for the last passage ...
  4. Mera joota
    Mera joota 29 December 2015 07: 08 New
    -20
    Of course, the boots did not shine with beauty and grace, as, for example, American boots. However, here is a quote from the book of General O. Bradley, author of The History of the Soldier

    It does not follow from this that tarpaulin boots are not wet and rheumatism is not terrible for the owner of the boots ...
    The boots were immediately highly praised by the soldiers: tall - no swamp is scary

    The author probably knows only by hearsay the swamp otherwise she wouldn’t write such nonsense.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 29 December 2015 07: 44 New
      38
      Quote: Mera Joota
      It does not at all follow from this that tarpaulin boots are not wet.

      It is necessary to smear correctly - and they will not get wet, and if they are dragged without leaving, then you can kill quickly, like any shoes. If you rub it correctly, then you can safely go into any puddle, if only it would not pour through the shaft.
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 29 December 2015 09: 15 New
        -11
        Quote: inkass_98
        then you can safely go into any puddle, if only it would not flow through the shaft.

        Exactly, a puddle, but not a swamp ...
        1. Petrix
          Petrix 29 December 2015 09: 48 New
          +8
          Quote: Mera Joota
          That's it, a puddle, but not a swamp ..

          And how is the water in the swamp different from the water in the puddle? Smell if only.
          1. would
            would 29 December 2015 21: 59 New
            +3
            By stepping into the puddle once, he shook off his shoes and went further along the dry surface. And the swamp is when you walk along this quagmire for 10 minutes, 20,30,40 and so on.
        2. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 29 December 2015 15: 29 New
          +7
          Mera Joota "That's right, a puddle, but not a swamp ..."
          I’m constantly at work in kirzach and through swamps and puddles. And climb into the pits in the swamps (this is not a reservation). Nothing gets wet. Of course, if it’s stupid to stand in water for a couple of hours, it may leak.))) Again, if it is waist-deep in water, it will also leak))).
          1. Rostovchanin
            Rostovchanin 29 December 2015 18: 07 New
            +9
            I will tell you in secret that the NATO berets (or American) are very comfortable, but after a constant stay in the water for 15 minutes they flow :). So that only a chemical protection suit or wanderers do not flow in water :)
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    2. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 29 December 2015 08: 47 New
      15
      The author very interestingly revealed the topic. And if a lot of bile is produced, a doctor must be visited.
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    4. nn11
      nn11 29 December 2015 12: 19 New
      +8
      The fact is that tarpaulin boots have narrow shafts. Even if you draw in them, your legs do not become heavy and your boots do not fly off. In rubber boots, it’s very difficult to go or run through a deep puddle (swamp) and not leave them there.
    5. Sofia
      29 December 2015 12: 27 New
      16
      I was pleased, honestly - this is about the fact that the swamp is only hearsay) And the author (that is, I) thinks that they put their boots on their hands and arthritis is a disease of the ears))
      1. OCD
        OCD 29 December 2015 14: 03 New
        +2
        Only rubber does not get wet in water. It’s easy to jump through a shallow stream in kirsach, and your feet will get wet in boots. But after 10 minutes, when in the water and kirzachi get wet and wet boots get wet and boots with gortex get wet. What you want smear get wet. Where there are seams, water comes in. On asphalt and hard surface, boots are more comfortable. Mud, slurry, water is better than boots - (rubber) with footcloth
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 December 2015 14: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: UBOP
          But after 10 minutes, when in the water and kirzachi get wet and wet boots get wet and boots with gortex get wet. What you want smear get wet. Where there are seams, water comes in.

          I’m sorry, not a fig, from the beginning they need to be treated with glycerin. And the shoes with gortex, the membrane, better from good manufacturers, I have Turkish since the 2000s, still alive. Firm-YAKUPOGLU.
          1. Riv
            Riv 29 December 2015 18: 02 New
            10
            We smeared the shoes with Johnson-baby oil (my idea, there is the main component of liquid paraffin) and the cream and the brush are on top. They became very soft, stop getting wet, but still footcloth is better than sock even in them. Another secret: in the process of winding it is necessary to wrap the end of the footcloth under the foot, then it presses it and it never unwinds.
            1. marshes
              marshes 29 December 2015 18: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: Riv
              We oiled boots with Johnson Baby

              Well that's cool! good
              As in our old days, boots were smeared with fat tail fat.
              I don’t remember that someone in the old days we wore bast shoes, Baipak boots or leather socks, old people or others still go around, but they wear galoshes.
              My mother from Mari, said that she wore bast shoes after the war, but lived in the dugout, Marie EL. And that the neighbors "knocked", the grandfather returned from the front and decided to put up a log house, payment that moonshine, stukanuli-appeared next to Irkutsk.
              He was familiar, the kingdom to him, told when he arrived in Almaty, he was surprised that personal cattle grazed and neighbors did not knock, and they and her mother left Voronezh from near, they knocked that they brought piglets, like to CELINA.
            2. Beaver
              Beaver 29 December 2015 21: 39 New
              +4
              Quote: Riv
              We oiled boots with Johnson Baby

              Once there was no boot cream, they found face cream in someone's bedside table. belay Nothing, he came up to the boots too. laughing
          2. OCD
            OCD 31 December 2015 09: 10 New
            +1
            Not with glycerin, but with warmed castor oil. And on soap and chrome boots, it is better to treat the leather sole with natural drying oil. Gortex is good for a day, and then it must be dried at room temperature. What shoes, what clothes. And what a gortex in the army. We take into account, when forcing shallow puddles and streams, the same height of the bootleg is somewhere around 40 cm, and the height of the boots, the army standard is 27-28 cm. Cast soles on tarpaulin boots, on stones in mountainous and wooded areas fly as you and did not dream. In Chechnya and Ingushetia, in autumn and winter, they walked in mud and snow in rubber boots.
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 30 December 2015 11: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Sophia
        And the author (that is, I) thinks that he puts boots on his hands and arthritis is an ear disease))

        Sarcasm, it’s certainly good. smile And the article is not bad. But since you are an author, explain one passage.
        Moreover, if wet, they can be wound with the other side down - and the leg will still remain dry, and the wet edge of the fabric will dry out, wrapped around the ankle.

        If the foot in the tarpaulin boot is wet, then either the boots are passed, most likely the seams, or the water has got through the boot. If seams are missed, then rewinding is pointless, it will immediately get wet and both the foot and the ankle will be damp. If the water poured through the top, then the leg is already all wet. There is an option that you took off dry boots from a murdered enemy or comrade, you disdained his footcloths and rewound your footcloths in this way smile
        But to be more realistic, try to give an example of a situation where such a rewind makes sense. Or rebuild the phrase so that it correlates with reality more real, sorry for the pun. Really curious! At the same time hone journalistic pen. wink
        1. trantor
          trantor 31 December 2015 14: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: bot.su
          But to be more realistic, try to give an example of a situation where such a rewind makes sense.

          Do your legs never sweat?
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 2 January 2016 22: 28 New
            0
            Quote: trantor
            Do your legs never sweat?

            They are sweating. But in the boot, the foot apart from the ankle does not sweat. Even if we allow that the ankle sweats less than the foot, the footcloth there is unlikely to dry out from the sweat, so will and will remain. But if it helps you, for God's sake. I prefer to just rewind more tightly and just dry it as soon as possible. The benefit dries, if not in the rain, quickly.
    6. stopkran
      stopkran 31 December 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      I had one funny incident in a “self-propelled gun” when I jumped a puddle and tied one foot in the mud, so that until I pulled my foot out of the boot, I couldn’t get my foot out of this trap. The boot then was torn by improvised means for about 15 minutes. in shoes he stood like a pillar until the second coming. And if this happened in a combat situation ?! )))
  5. cobalt
    cobalt 29 December 2015 07: 13 New
    +4
    A real statesman, there would be more of these
    1. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 29 December 2015 09: 42 New
      19
      There was one more ingenious thing: a padded jacket, he is a quilted jacket, he is a sweatshirt, he is a quilted shirt, he is a pea jacket in the military version. Light but warm enough clothing, and over the years of many years of production thought out so that at the lowest cost to be as comfortable as possible. Army, collective farm field, taiga, prison camps - yes this is national Russian clothing! :) In the 90s, they were remade into fashionable jackets.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 29 December 2015 14: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: vladimir_krm
        In the 90s, they were remade into fashionable jackets.

        Yes, and now trends are skipping, just the opposite :-)

        It remains to find out whether there are footcloths from Versace laughing
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 29 December 2015 18: 13 New
        -5
        Recently, there was an article at the VO that the Russians spied on the quilted outerwear of the Japanese during the Russo-Japanese War. And then they finalized it to a practical design, turning this clothing into Russian national, along with a hat with earflaps and felt boots.
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 December 2015 18: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: Black Colonel
          Recently, there was an article at the VO that the Russians spied on the quilted outerwear of the Japanese during the Russo-Japanese War. And then they finalized it to a practical design, turning this clothing into Russian national, along with a hat with earflaps and felt boots.

          The steppes wore all the described clothing.
          A padded jacket, poor Kazakhs and Uzbeks were worn in winter.
          A cap with earflaps, this is a LITTLE BUT, only without a backdrop.
          Felt boots, damn yapas it is visible not measured a lot of rams, felting of wool is among nomads.
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 30 December 2015 14: 56 New
            0
            Quote: marshes
            Felt boots, damn yapas it is visible not measured a lot of rams, felting of wool is among nomads.

            So I imagine, nomads in knee-high boots, spurs are attached to the boots on the back, instead of galoshes ... But how nomadic nomads stick in a stirrup, it’s generally a Mongolian song with LITTLE on the head .... Forgot to knee-high boots the Russian sheepskin knee-length, so that in the saddle warm the nomads sat)))
  6. Igor39
    Igor39 29 December 2015 07: 13 New
    21
    I don’t really like it on a wooden sole, in the village I have these, Belarusian molten soles, warm and light
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 11: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      , belarusian molten soles, warm and light

      Does the sole not burst?
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 29 December 2015 12: 44 New
        +4
        No, I’ve gone two seasons already, though I don’t go to the country often, I go hunting, fishing a couple of times around the yard, they are still lined with white fleece-like fabric inside, synthetic, the porous sole does not freeze, I’m in winter for them I’ve been hunting all day, I’ve got a winter sock, my legs were dry and warm. In our service we had such berets, well, on hard soles, on such molten soles there was a shortage, light and comfortable.
        1. marshes
          marshes 29 December 2015 13: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Igor39
          .In the service we had such berets, well, on hard soles, on such molded soles there was a shortage, light and comfortable.

          In our 90s, they appeared, such as having given them to the “young” from school, so half with colds fell. I had to let my felt boots on the insoles. And right away in the winter it was clear where the snow stood there with molten soles melted until asphalt. Then the soles began to burst, so then shod in normal kirzachi.
          According to the berets in general, at the beginning, Kiev mabuts were appreciated, there were Chinese and others ... In short, I messed up ... I ordered two pairs from Turkey, so since the 2000s they have been still alive.
          And I like the classic bunny, I don’t suffer with flat feet, now the Cossacks from Texas have a problem with them, I can’t run like in sneakers. I’m used to seeing my leg.
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 29 December 2015 13: 26 New
            +3
            Well, I don’t like the classic heavy kirzach, these cast ones are excellent, you know if a private house, quickly put on, quickly removed, the sole is high, they don’t get wet, washed everything from dirt, then cleaned it with cream and like new ones. For the summer I bought Here are such Chinese on Ali express, I thought shit, but it turned out to be normal, in the summer I go, I’m a cop in them.
            1. Igor39
              Igor39 29 December 2015 13: 28 New
              +3
              Here are the Chinese, but nothing normal
              1. marshes
                marshes 29 December 2015 13: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: Igor39
                Here are the Chinese, but nothing normal

                They have like moccasins, gerbils. Well, it’s if they hunt pigs in my region. That’s not to stomp. I’ve been in sneakers, they quickly get hot sand while in Chinese sneakers. Columbia, Shaki or Aplee. By the way, this is not a bad sport. shoes can be branded. smile
              2. Hell's Angel
                Hell's Angel 29 December 2015 16: 16 New
                11
                I don’t know how the Chinese are, but Crispi is a thing! By the way, at the dawn of my service, I had to wear the so-called “lightweight” ones, the ones with a cast sole and a kersey top. So, after a short time, everyone came to the conclusion that there is no better footcloth (even for shoes)! 89 year, the evening before the end and the company of "raccoons stripes" washing socks. That picture! In the winter of 94 - 95, I was once again convinced of this.
                And, like a new flannelette footcloth, after a bath it is nice to lie on your foot? Especially if you spent three days x .. where?! Who remembers those pleasant sensations? AND?
            2. marshes
              marshes 29 December 2015 13: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: Igor39
              Well, I don’t like the classic heavy punch,

              Only CLASSIC! For the convenience of dressing, I simply cut them off like berets of steel. While I completely processed the new ones with cream, they don’t get wet. Heels of the dowel, “toe-in collapse”. smile I wear it often, not only around the house. At the base, you can step on a chipped piece of metal or the remainder of the electrode, the sole will not melt. In nature, only in the autumn-spring period.
              Last spring, the courtyard was flooded with meltwater until it was pumped out wet. The truth of the water was just above the ankle.
              And in the summer on PUTsu, in a heat it is better to have a tights and sneakers if not to run. smile "Slippers" laughing And it isn’t up to them that the shoes are not in accordance with the charter, though then he began to cut the shafts. The high shafts from the golif, PS-lame, do not look bad. And with a lump of trim plus good cross-country. smile
              1. Igor39
                Igor39 29 December 2015 13: 45 New
                +1
                Do you still have a holife? smile wink
                1. marshes
                  marshes 29 December 2015 14: 07 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Igor39
                  Do you still have a holife?

                  I’m no longer serving, the RPK’s holography.
                  And so much from the clothing supply of my father, brother, and mine was left a lot. Field PSh, overcoats, overcoat cuts, for a walk, for everyday wear, a hat, karakul for a collar, belts, tablets, boots, Flying winter with fur jumpsuit, leather jackets and many others. ..
                  1. Igor39
                    Igor39 29 December 2015 15: 06 New
                    +4
                    Well, you have enough for a long time good
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 29 December 2015 15: 26 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Igor39
                      Well, you have enough for a long time

                      It is a pity that the lumps do not live for a long time. The economy is no matter how, and I wear it sometimes as a daily routine.
                      There was a case, we drove into a cool store for a viskar. I turned out to be the youngest. In a pea jacket and in tartan jackets, I went for goods. The saleswomen were snorting at the beginning, the bomber drew up, they called the guard ... smile The wallet opened calmed down, there viskar, caviar, salads, etc. ... then they were probably in shock when I climbed into bags with 570 lech. laughing
                      Kent, by the way Igor, a participant in the Tajik war, he taught some ... and so on a kaena and a T-shirt, jerseys with outstretched knees, a man’s purse, he goes for groceries.
                      So I want to say, there is nothing to be ashamed of ... On the one hand, it’s not decent, but who is behind the counter ...
    2. Nitarius
      Nitarius 29 December 2015 12: 49 New
      +2
      YES cast IT IS !!! in 90 years he went to them at home .. NO PRICES TO THEM!
  7. Good cat
    Good cat 29 December 2015 07: 17 New
    11
    Tarpaulin boots are super shoes for a soldier, at first it’s hard, of course, then they become slippers, I didn’t run in berets, I don’t know, but chrome boots were rare .... they were, but in kirzachi you’ll put footcloths on a helicopter and drive all day, the main thing is to cross the rewind normally. At first, yuft boots were given to cadets; they are stronger, but heavier.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 December 2015 07: 34 New
      +9
      I went to kirsachs for a couple of years ... there is no doubt comfortable shoes ... really hard, but that was a plus in kicking, it was good and the leg was light when you took them off.
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      2. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 29 December 2015 12: 25 New
        +9
        What does heavy mean? I tried cross-country races and march-throws at WU in kirzach! The leather ones were 2 (two) times heavier - they were weighed for dispute in the dining room.
    2. Sorokin
      Sorokin 29 December 2015 20: 08 New
      +5
      The crimson trees are even heavier. We tricked ourselves before changing the shoes for kross; they gave us autorota to park works.
  8. kvs207
    kvs207 29 December 2015 07: 30 New
    +7
    However, wearing kirzachi on socks was very inconvenient: after a few hours, the sock certainly got knocked on the heel and corns appeared. And it was difficult to provide the entire army with socks of the required size

    What kind of socks are we talking about? They were not in the supply of soldiers until ... most likely the end of the 50s. Footcloths and windings. He took the boots for 2 years in the army and I think that this is quite normal shoes for the mass army. The main thing, as noted above, is to wind the footcloths correctly.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 29 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +6
      Socks in the SA went under the boots. In the boots - a footcloth. In the summer of HB, in the winter cloth. Fine. He climbed into the army in kirzachi like in his native shoe. But he didn’t know how to wind footcloths before the army. The sergeant taught quickly. FOR 2 years of service NEVER !!! (surprisingly, but true !!!) did not rub his legs. But the people with bloody blisters saw everything as a selection - the urban "intelligentsia". The sight is something else - for a divorce in slippers, barely dragging feet ...

      Speaking of socks in boots. In tyrnet, a description of a case of times of war, when an experienced enemy reconnaissance was exposed precisely in footcloths, walks. He threw himself at us many times, including and in the form of the Red Army. Accordingly, he was able to use footcloths. And the military doctor drew attention to him. After a long march on foot, he was the only one in the convoy of captive Germans in the convoy with intact legs, because he wound footcloths on a long journey. And the rest of the prisoners were in SOCKS, who ordered to live long after several tens of kilometers (here they are, socks !!!). It was such a "phenomenon" that interested the observant comrade, where this simple German soldier learned how to use the RUSSIAN means so cleverly ...
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  11. bionik
    bionik 29 December 2015 07: 45 New
    +7
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    1. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 29 December 2015 15: 27 New
      14
      Boys! On thin shoulders
      Miraculously kept freedom
      Chicks in tarpaulin boots -
      The honor and glory of the Russian people.


      Did you stumble upon the enemy -
      Scary, mom, first time attack!
      Boys in tarpaulin boots
      How many of you, seeing death, have not cried?

      A lead hurricane mowed you down
      Beat swipe, burned his palms.
      Boys in Canvas Boots
      You went to the enemy in a dying groan ...

      You are sitting right in front of your eyes
      You were growing up, getting older
      Chicks in tarpaulin boots
      On a bloody merciless march.

      Stalingrad and Kursk
      Battles near Moscow and Koenigsberg ...
      Boys in Canvas Boots
      Courage in the dust of the enemy plunged!

      And now fear is no longer known
      Standing in a fierce whirlwind
      Boys in tarpaulin boots
      So many times in the face staring death ...

      What are the tears in the eyes of?
      The gray-haired heroes cry -
      Boys in tarpaulin boots -
      Veterans in a thinned formation ...
      Olga Fursova
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 29 December 2015 18: 22 New
        +1
        Cool poems, sincere! +
  12. Vladycat
    Vladycat 29 December 2015 07: 46 New
    +7
    I myself am for the tarpaulin. During my urgency shoes just as the parade went. Although closer to the demobilization he decided to ponder and ran a little in his shoes. I regretted it. I read an article about how they arranged trials with a march-throwing church, ovskie boots and Belorussian berets. The boots steered!
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 29 December 2015 16: 16 New
      +5
      Incorrectly wrapped a footcloth for the first time, knocked down his leg. But learned to reel. In the field do not roll socks and boots. At one time.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 29 December 2015 08: 03 New
    +7
    A low bow to Mikhail Mikhailovich Pomortsev .. and Sofia to you for the article .. Happy New Year! Creative success!
  14. Velya
    Velya 29 December 2015 08: 15 New
    +9
    During service (2004-2006), we were given berets, and if we had tarpaulin on the training, then after training we were given completely leather. But in the winter at the outpost, we ourselves asked the foreman of the outpost to give us the kirzachi hidden in the warehouse. it’s still more convenient and warmer to walk to 10-15km at -10-15 in kirzach (or sit in a barrier) than in berets. So kirzachi rule!
    1. kinolog2322
      kinolog2322 29 December 2015 11: 42 New
      +8
      Yes, and in terms of running up in kirzach faster than in berets.
      1. Velya
        Velya 29 December 2015 16: 02 New
        +1
        There is such a thing.
  15. semirek
    semirek 29 December 2015 08: 25 New
    +5
    One of the first conditions for the emergence of tarpaulin boots (bootlegs from tarpaulin) in the USSR was skin saving, in tsarist times there was no such problem - there was enough skin. The second moment: the “tarp” went into operation in 39, when, suddenly, they reduced the recruiting age from 20 years to 18, an extra million soldiers were under arms - it’s not realistic to wrap such a horde in the skin in a matter of weeks.
    about socks, of course it’s ridiculous to read - the best thing that was invented in the army, or rather taken from the people — these are footcloths, a gymnast (peasant shirt) and felt boots.
    During the war years, savvy soldiers tried to change their shoes from tarpaulin boots to officer purses or removed boots from excellent leather from killed Germans, wearing leather boots was a special chic among soldiers --- a kirsa is a kirsa.
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 29 December 2015 08: 51 New
      10
      The gymnast is not a peasant shirt, but a shirt for gymnastics, that is, sports.
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    3. Poppy
      Poppy 29 December 2015 09: 05 New
      +4
      under the tsar in peacetime there was no such problem, but in the First World War she stood up to her full height - just then soldiers began to put on bast shoes
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Poppy
        under the king in Peaceful time there was no such problem

        You correctly noticed this in peacetime ... And with the outbreak of war, all soldiers in shoes with windings wore shoes.
    4. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 29 December 2015 09: 25 New
      +5
      I wore both the officers and the tarpaulin ... There is nothing more convenient and easier than the tarpaulin, everything else is show off :)

      We had some kind of problem on airplanes in our regiment. Not too serious, but the KB representatives had to decide it. And a test pilot flies into our regiment. He identified the problem and fixed it over time, but the story is not about that. Our gentlemen’s officers were especially touched not only by the fact that he behaved absolutely in his own way, without bulging his nose, but the fact that this test pilot, this ace, before whose experience our military personnel could still grow and grow, flew in ordinary soldier's tarpaulin boots.

      This, despite the fact that the officers, in the presence of chrome, soap and yuft boots, would wear a soldier's kirsa in the bastard, as they say. Well, besides, the Motherland did not save on pilots, and luxurious boots of an unusual construction at that time were attached to the flight form: lacing - for an exact fit on the leg, and in everyday life they used powerful, extremely reliable "lightning".

      So why did an experienced ace prefer a tarpaulin? It turns out that this is not a whim. Who wore the “lame”, he understands why the orderlies were needed in the tsarist army: removing them without a squeal and outside help, especially if the foot is not quite standard, is very problematic :) But the soldiers drop off elementarily, and this is important in case of fire in the cabin and bailouts. The boots will burn, but the legs will remain intact. And the shafts are higher than the boots, legs protect from fire better. At the same time, they sit quite firmly on their feet, and will not fly off at the moment of a jerk when opening the parachute.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 29 December 2015 10: 52 New
        +4
        In aviation, boots were not popular, to put it mildly, chuckled. Sometimes they hoped, of course. For someone to climb into the cockpit of tarpaulin boots, this was unthinkable. Maybe this ace that you mentioned was from the front-line soldiers. And when you bail out, you can best barefoot "get out built"
        The very experience of wearing long boots (cadet) is durable, comfortable and lightweight, and of course footcloths, very hygienic. I never wore the tarpaulin, although, to be honest, they look scary.
        1. Jackking
          Jackking 29 December 2015 13: 45 New
          +8
          Yalivye boots can only be worn for show-offs - in the morning, having run through the dew, they add sooo much weight. There is nothing better than kirzach
      2. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: vladimir_krm
        remove them without a squeal or outside help,

        It’s not the fault of the boots, but the fashion of the time, to sew the bootleg strictly on the calves so that the bootleg does not slip into the accordion, although in the villages and provinces there was its own chic: the bootleg is in the accordion, it's like jeans with holes.
    5. Ivan Tartugai
      Ivan Tartugai 29 December 2015 11: 10 New
      +7
      "... in tsarist times there was no such problem - there was enough skin."
      After a few months of the war, the Russian army began to lack shoes for soldiers. This was noted in Brusilov’s memoirs. They began to buy shoes in the West, and even the fabric windings were purchased by him.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 29 December 2015 15: 33 New
        +1
        = Ivan Tartugai "This was noted in Brusilov’s memoirs. They began to buy shoes in the West, and even the fabric windings were bought by him."
        And in the Great Patriotic War, too, they wore boots with windings of the year until 1943, then they apparently increased the production of boots.
        1. Ivan Tartugai
          Ivan Tartugai 29 December 2015 19: 15 New
          +2
          And in the Great Patriotic War they also wore boots with windings.
          The military depots for the deployment developed by the General Staff of the Red Army were located almost close to the border.
          In the very first days of the war, the Wehrmacht captured a huge number of warehouses with weapons, military equipment, ammunition, food, fuel and lubricants, including clothing depots, and basically safe and sound.
          As a result, the cannon "hunger" - reduced artillery regiments appeared, the rifle "hunger" - one rifle for two or three, and here there is a lack of shoes and boots.
          This is in the memoirs of General Antipenko NA and not only him.
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Nagaibak
          then apparently increased the production of boots.

          In total, 1941 45 36 people were mobilized into the Red Army during the 000-000 year, from Vladivostok to Iran and Brest. Made by 10 000 000 helmets.
    6. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: semirek
      or they removed boots from excellent leather from killed Germans,

      Rave!!!! A Russian will never put on a German boot: the German boot has a very low rise, everyone has a wide skeleton, they have a leg structure such that the Russian leg does not climb into them, and you won’t wear the boot because of the "rise" three sizes larger. Read more of our grandfathers memoirs. Small details are the most interesting. We even had lice different: German transparent and was visible belly lice with blood. Our gray and dull. There is a mention in German memoirs that lice on a German soldier appeared in the second week after crossing the USSR border, with advanced troops or by train, but in the summer it was easier: you can throw off your clothes and wash wherever you want. Remember the scene when German soldiers entered Krasnodon in the "Young Guard", how they undressed to the goal washed at the column in the middle of summer? And everything was fully manifested with the onset of cold weather, when you do not undress and wash yourself anywhere. It is enough to recall that in the summer of 1941, all the soldiers of the German army carried powder against lice. A strange and amazing story, it’s like with French dysentery in 1812 summer, when a third of the Napoleonic troops in front of Borodino fell with diarrhea.
    7. Wheel
      Wheel 2 January 2016 19: 10 New
      0
      Quote: semirek
      in tsarist times there was no such problem - there was enough skin.
      You were deceived in a big way ... laughing
      By the year 15, the so-called “windings” with boots appeared.
      Well, a little such an intractable lady as statistics ...
      "In only one and a half years of the war, from January 1916 to July 1, 1917, the army took 6 million 310 thousand pairs of boots, 5 million 800 thousand of them were ordered abroad. In 1916, the army and rear warehouses received up to 29 million pairs of shoes (of which only about 5 million pairs of boots). "
  16. uskrabut
    uskrabut 29 December 2015 08: 39 New
    +7
    Kirzachi is a brilliant invention! Checked in urgent wear and kirzachi and berets. In kirsa you can walk all day without taking off in the heat and cold. But there were problems with the berets, three pairs of socks per day had to be changed because dampness accumulated, then acquired a second pair of tibia (half a day in one, the other half in the other pair) but this is impractical, and in the field it is completely ..op. So definitely kirsa is better
  17. apro
    apro 29 December 2015 10: 24 New
    +4
    Kirzaki thing, I dragged in the army and now I work as a welder in them, it’s better not. I decided somehow to put the juveniles to bring up some uncomfortable, the best foot cloths in winter and summer, legs are warm and dry, feet do not sweat in the heat.
  18. Rashid
    Rashid 29 December 2015 10: 27 New
    +9
    I’ll insert my 5 cents. In childhood, we wore kirzachi size as 34-36, then children's boots were popular. My father taught me how to wind footcloths, and still do it myself (how to tie a pioneer tie). Now I wear old kirzachi in the country, it’s very convenient, especially when you go to the forest - you won’t hurt your leg about the branches, and the snake will not bite your bootleg. By the way, my father was called up in the 39th, so the first year he wore boots with windings, so, he says, there was a hassle.
  19. thinker
    thinker 29 December 2015 10: 29 New
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    And in the village of Starry Perm Territory, a monument to canvas boots was erected. They are made in such a way that everyone can try them on.
  20. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 29 December 2015 11: 23 New
    +3
    Good shoes tarpaulin boots and for service, and for work, and for relaxation.
    When he was a foreman in winter and summer, he wore tarpaulin boots. Warm in winter and simple in summer.
    They were especially convenient at the construction and repair of railway facilities, where the whole day either by dust, or by dirt, then by rubble, then by snow.
  21. tolancop
    tolancop 29 December 2015 11: 26 New
    19
    About the creation of tarpaulin - very interesting, did not know.
    But about the footcloths, the author is clearly not in the know ..
    "..However, wearing kirzachi on socks was very uncomfortable: after a few hours, the sock certainly got knocked on the heel and corns appeared. Yes, and it was difficult to provide the whole army with socks of the required size. "And the problem is solved. Moreover, if wet, they can be wound with the other side down - and the leg will still remain dry, and the wet edge of the fabric will dry out, wrapped around the ankle ..."
    He wrote in such a way that one gets the impression that the footcloths were required with the advent of the kirzachs, and this is incorrect in principle. A sock in any boot will not live long, in tarpaulin or leather. The footcloth and boot were not contraindicated, he himself did not come across, but he had to hear about wearing footcloths in boots.
    The author mentioned ingenuity, only with the time of its application was mistaken for at least 150 years. In the Pikulevsky Favorite it is mentioned that the Russian army owes the introduction of foot cloth to Grigory Aleksandrovich Potemkin. Maybe so, but I think that before that, boots were not worn barefoot ... footcloth ancient invention.
    I myself began to stomp in kirzach for a couple of years before the army. T.ch. Having joined the ranks of the SA, I never had problems with wearing a kirzach - my native shoe. And the sergeant taught how to wind his footcloths on the very first day. And after the army, the kirzachi with footcloths did not leave, wore from time to time.
    And I think the rejection of footcloths in the Russian army is a huge mistake.
    Well, what did they not please the Minister of Defense, I don’t understand? Cheap, practical, hygienic. The only minus is the negative image of this object that has developed for some reason, as something dirty and smelly (yeah, week-long socks, of course they look elegant and air ozonizes :)).
    And this image arose, I believe, from the work of the "intelligentsia" who had fallen into the army, who from the beginning did not do hard work and did not wear anything heavier than slippers. And they put them in boots, but the footcloths did not really teach how to wind, and as a result, their legs were knocked down in blood. And who is to blame? An individual who has not learned a primitive device? Right now, he’s never to blame for anything! PORTANKA is to blame !!!
    There are monuments to commanders. There are animal monuments. There are monuments to events. But in my deep conviction, Kirzachi and Portyanka also deserve their monument !!!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 29 December 2015 11: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: tolancop
      And here about footcloths

      First, "plus" to you. And now the criticism: pants = "trousers" and their natural continuation = "foot wraps". I remember a school New Year's party. Preparing for it, I (sixth grader) cut out a wooden “gladius”, made a cardboard armor, greaves, elbow pieces and a shield ... and only the second place, and the first took fifth grader in brand new paws of direct weaving / as it was later said “Tatar”, and the Russians had to be woven with an "oblique" weaving /, in a canvas shirt made of nettles and a felt cap. The bast shoes were dressed in COTTAGES, tied at the top with a lace. So the bast shoes in the slush were worn only on footcloths and were a ONE-TIME thing, for they crawled into the account “once”. So: footcloths = these are "footwear" for shoes.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 25 New
        +4
        Complete Church Slavonic Dictionary Dyachenko p. 458. Portische = clothes, dress. Tailor = clothes. Port = rag, shirt. Ports = 1) in general ancient russian clothing, it is known from the annals of the 1074 summer: "the contribution to it is from the Chernetsky ports." 2) men's underwear, dress. This is for general information.
    2. stopkran
      stopkran 29 December 2015 12: 35 New
      +6
      Failure to boot is sabotage and sabotage. Statements by “commanders” who don’t understand why their personnel are mowed by catarrhal diseases look very interesting. In boots spare pair of dry socks is not provided. )))
    3. moskowit
      moskowit 29 December 2015 12: 47 New
      +4
      Everything is correct. Excerpt from Dahl's Dictionary ...

      "... A tailor, a tailor. Same, a rough tailor; a tailor, a piece, a cut off part of it, especially for footcloths, many plural wrappers, onuchi, undercoats for shoes, according to 1 1 / 2 arsh. On the leg. .. "
    4. kyznets
      kyznets 29 December 2015 17: 49 New
      +5
      Footcloths were worn even before the boots. Father said that they were dressed in bast shoes and leather "desks." Yes, and in the army they also wore boots with windings, I saw how they were worn with galoshes (eastern). Plus - you do not need different sizes of socks, do not rub your feet, are easy to use and hygienic - they are easy to wash, dry. SIMPLICITY IN MANUFACTURE.
      And there was such a convenient and practical thing as a padded jacket. Light and warm. And what were hebe army breeches, or a mabuta for boots. With knee pads, tight, sturdy and practical, socks. In a breeches (with a high belt), wide in hips and dense in calf-ankles it was very convenient to move - they did not constrain movements, did not blow out anywhere.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 30 December 2015 14: 17 New
        +2
        “With socks of different sizes, they came up with the following thing: Socks are made without a“ heel, such a long pipe is obtained ... But, again, they stitch into folds on the ankle ... ”
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  22. bionik
    bionik 29 December 2015 11: 43 New
    +6
    Somehow I watched a program on the Russia’s channel “I order you to live. Dubynin” Evgeny Nikitenko tells Major General Gen. Deputy Chief of the 40th Arm Department. 85-87gg: -When a soldier was blown up on a mine the leg came off on boots (that is, by kaleno), in a boot on a shin, in a sneaker of the foot or could get off with a heel. That the commander issued an order to go on combat in sneakers.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 12: 00 New
      0
      Quote: bionik
      .To the commander issued an order to go on combat in sneakers.

      What then was the Leningrad Adidas?
      A little later, Iranian adidases were not bad, now Chinese shaki or aple. smile
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 30 December 2015 12: 43 New
        +3
        - Fargona! Sneakers produced by the Ferghana shoe factory, a replica of the Puma, the sole is unbearable, but the threads are rubbish, the seams are constantly spreading ...
    2. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 37 New
      -3
      Quote: bionik
      in a foot sneaker or could get off with a heel

      Have you tried barefoot? Everything seems to be logical! Twenty grams of explosives are torn off the top, in shoes only a heel, then it was necessary to go further and barefoot ... and armored genitalia from fragments.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 20: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        Have you tried barefoot? AT

        Do not fool around figs, by the way a petal, in a cross, tears off an ankle, in a berets or a boot the results are deplorable. There on the shin.
        And abroiggens just do galoshes.
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        and armored genitalia from fragments.

        So there’s nothing to be clever. You will fall ....
  23. marshes
    marshes 29 December 2015 11: 46 New
    +3
    Kirzachi is not bad shoes, I still wear a private house. Yes, and sometimes I drive in the car, if I need to go to the base or out of town. They are heavy heavy, chrome for show-offs, although I also have them. Leather boots, black, I prefer Turkish. There and the skin is good and Goreteksovskoy lining.
    I wear, kirzachi, with footcloths or with knitted woolen socks. True, I drove the dowel into the heel, instead of the horseshoes, I cut my bootleg, hemmed it for the convenience of putting it on and off. Now I have them like "slippers".
    By the way, I have winter, flying, boots with fur and with a zipper on the top, like unth but the fur inside is also smart shoes.
    PS I’ll save my feet, from rubber shoes and cheap trousers to rheumatism “two steps”.
  24. marshes
    marshes 29 December 2015 12: 04 New
    +9
    I’ll add, cleaning the tarps. Maybe someone found WAXA, that’s a nasty thing. It seeped through the boot and painted the footcloths or lump in black and blue. Those who liked to sit on the courts painted the fifth point. smile
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 29 December 2015 12: 52 New
      +3
      It was ... But the wax is nothing compared to printing ink !!! Somewhere foreman we got a can somewhere, they cleaned it when it was really bad with supplies. I can’t even imagine what curses from the BWC rained down on us.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 13: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: tolancop
        But vacca is nothing compared to printing ink !!!

        We went to motorists alone, painted boots. smile
      2. saygon66
        saygon66 30 December 2015 12: 13 New
        +2
        - We were given a hydrophobic lubricant in healthy jars ... kg on 3 ... The colors were rather gray than black ... after that it was impossible to “sparkle” the boots ... laughing
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 29 December 2015 18: 39 New
      +3
      It was. As I went into the barracks for the first time in training, I was immediately struck by a nasty thing in the nose. It turned out to be a wax. The most terrible horror! belay
  25. vnord
    vnord 29 December 2015 12: 13 New
    +6
    I remember after 3 months of everyday wear and running in long boots, I had a chance to run in sneakers - I had such a feeling. that the legs themselves run.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 29 December 2015 17: 21 New
      +4
      It was also such a feeling that the legs from under the ass run forward)))
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 29 December 2015 18: 41 New
        +5
        When the shoes were shod on a demobilization to headquarters, at first I didn’t understand why the legs above the knee fly up. Then I realized - 1,5 years in the yuft make themselves felt.
  26. stopkran
    stopkran 29 December 2015 12: 15 New
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    In boots it is good to walk on the parquet and asphalt, but in the field it is a killer for the feet, as the American general rightly noted. It is especially interesting how often it is necessary to wash the shoelaces in the autumn-spring period and comb out the feathers and thorns from them. )))

    "Spacious boots in front of narrow ones and onuchi or footcloths in stockings have the advantage that in the case when your feet get wet or sweat, you can immediately throw them off, wipe your foot in a footcloth and, wrapping them again with a dry end, in speed to put on shoes and protect them from dampness and chills, but in narrow boots and stockings you can’t do anything that is inconvenient to throw off or put on again, and stockings can’t always be changed or dried, through which poor soldiers have unceasing the legs are wet, often expose themselves to colds and other illnesses; not having the need to tie their legs tight with narrow boots, soldiers can walk more freely and carry over traveling work more, and blood circulation does not stop. " - Prince Potemkin-Tauride (from a letter to Catherine II, 1783)
    1. Glot
      Glot 29 December 2015 12: 24 New
      +4
      It is especially interesting how often it is necessary to wash the shoelaces in the autumn-spring period and comb out the feathers and thorns from them. )))


      Our laces did not last long. Torn, rotted ...
      Some replaced them with wire. smile
    2. tolancop
      tolancop 29 December 2015 12: 54 New
      +7
      ".. Prince Potemkin-Tauride (from a letter to Catherine II, 1783)"
      Someone to the Minister of Defense put this letter on the table !!!
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 29 December 2015 13: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: stopkran
      In shoes it’s good to walk on the parquet and asphalt, but in the field it’s a killer for the legs,

      I read a long time ago about the first experience of using footcloths and boots of the Kaiser army in the Franco-Prussian war. Out of inability to wind footcloths, the Germans raped a lot of those out of action due to worn legs.
  27. Balagan
    Balagan 29 December 2015 12: 24 New
    +3
    Something after the army no longer wanted to climb into the kirzachi, but he was always surprised at his boss - on an expedition (and he went to the field when he was already 70), he always traveled only in kirzachi.
  28. Russia
    Russia 29 December 2015 12: 26 New
    +8
    In kirsach almost all the children's winters ran through! It was great to ride the hill! And then they saved more than once! The thing was!
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 12: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Rossi-Ya
      In kirsach almost all the children's winters ran through! It was great to ride the hill!

      Especially if you rub the sole with paraffin. smile
    2. Glot
      Glot 29 December 2015 12: 36 New
      +3
      It was great to ride the hill!


      Yes, that's for sure !!!
      To be honest, I forgot, and then you said - I remembered. drinks
  29. Sofia
    29 December 2015 12: 34 New
    13
    Dear forum users, thank you all! About footcloths, I know, of course, was, just put it miserably, I will consider for the future. I wanted to insert a piece about the history of the sisters, but I was too lazy to finish writing.
  30. tolancop
    tolancop 29 December 2015 12: 46 New
    +7
    I remembered more about the kirzachi. It so happened that at work they sent a group of comrades, which I included, to provide patronage assistance to the nearest state farm, "40 years without a harvest." Specifically, raking hay in a meadow. I went in light shoes, in sneakers. And shortly before that, he shook his leg and the ankle still ached. Walking on asphalt is normal, and the meadow, as a sin, turned out to be hummocky. A couple of hours in light shoes on a humid place with a damaged ankle seemed hell. The next day he dressed the kirzachi. Heavier than the sneakers, but the injured leg in them was much calmer and more comfortable.
    RETURN BOOTS AND SHOES TO THE ARMY !!!!
  31. marshes
    marshes 29 December 2015 13: 15 New
    +3
    More about footcloths, probably some kind of standard exists, but why, after several washings, they sit down so much, but I generally keep quiet about woolen clothes.
    Doors, the same topic. Therefore, the new sheets disappear. I only went to the sheets in the schools and put in PVC insulation from the wire, who knows he will understand. And it looked gorgeous ... Especially on the “deaf” Suvorov jacket.
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 29 December 2015 13: 28 New
      +3
      "... PVC insulation from the wire." Vein? Before school, he served urgently "in boots", also inserted. But the vein in the gateway, it was the privilege of the second year of service, in the first it was possible to get it on the neck. And also springs from a cap in shoulder straps were inserted. Chopped in length and two pieces in uniform. The officers could not understand why the epaulettes do not crumple and are so elastic.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 13: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: rudolff
        And also springs from a cap in shoulder straps were inserted. Chopped in length and two pieces in uniform. The officers could not understand why the epaulettes do not crumple and are so elastic.

        I didn’t put in clerical glue, the epaulettes were not with plywood but with a pipe, the officers were pushing through, they couldn’t find the criminal.
        Trucks, yes our chip, the police and the PKK in the KZ, saddle. smile
        Damn I have teachers ... Father, Brother, Cousins. Yes, and the house, there all the military then lived ...
      2. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 29 December 2015 17: 24 New
        +2
        and we inserted a thin knitting needle into the shoulder strap)))
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 29 December 2015 18: 49 New
      +3
      We had a major hobby for our deputy — he would approach a soldier, usually a grandfather or a scoop, who "is duly assigned by service life", pulls out a wire and notifies the whole parade ground that it is "already seven hundred and eight hundred last!" I doper one thing - instead of PVC insulation I used a thin x \ braid that goes on top of the PVC, I inserted it into the binder. And it looks like (after all, I also wanted to prank), and it was not felt by touch.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 18: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Black Colonel
        . And he has a view (after all, I also wanted to prank),

        Well, you see, it looked gorgeous with psh.
        On a lump is not very good ...
    3. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 29 December 2015 20: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      why after a few washings they sit so hard

      I was given an overalls at work on 185 at work, and I had 176, I wanted to sew it up, and then put it into the washing machine at 90 degrees, just in the water and interrupted the process, immediately rinsed, they began to grow, then put the wash on 40 degrees and the length did not change, even after a few washings. hot and cold like shagreen skin.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 20: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        They gave me a work uniform

        What kind of overalls?
        Zhirik is right, man, the body grows, 20 years 170,63 kg-40 years 173,90 kg. I run and swing, if I didn’t, then I would leave for 100.
        Two sand pears tore laughing
  32. Leader
    Leader 29 December 2015 14: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: tolancop
    And I think the rejection of footcloths in the Russian army is a huge mistake.

    Support!
    Many years in PV; He wore both boots and berets. My opinion is clear: boots are better.
    Especially for the infantry, and even more so (God forbid! Of course) in conditions of war on our territory.
    With modern technology, boots can be made better and at a higher level; while maintaining the main advantages - footcloths (rather than socks), lack of laces, high boot.
  33. 2nd 12th
    2nd 12th 29 December 2015 14: 46 New
    +3
    The army was exclusively in boots and footcloths. On duty and exits issued boots and cotton quilted jackets under pea jackets.
    Everything is interesting to me, but how much time does it take to tie shoelaces about raising an alarm? In my opinion, winding footcloths is faster
  34. tolancop
    tolancop 29 December 2015 14: 49 New
    +5
    I also remembered about the kirzachi ... The sole of the kirzachi is an insidious thing, has good thermal insulation properties and a rather large heat capacity.
    On the one hand, it’s good. But on the other ... For those uninitiated in the insidiousness of the soles, an attempt to warm their feet by the fire can turn into a surprise: while you are warming and the foot does not fit tightly on the sole - great, but you just have to step ..... Song !!!
    The reverse is also possible. I remember they kicked us off to the parade ground from November 7th .. On the street about -35 in the sun, we stood in formation for more than an hour. They marched. They ran to the barracks and took off their boots rather ... Half of the footcloths remained in the boots - they froze from the inside to the sole !!! What is strange - no one got sick.
    In CA, the term for wearing socks was assigned 8 months. I personally didn’t have enough (I bought for my money when they completely fell apart), although we were not burdened by long runs in the field or by marching in my unit. How infantry fit into the timing for me is a mystery.
    1. Glot
      Glot 29 December 2015 15: 57 New
      +1
      In CA, the term for wearing socks was assigned 8 months. I personally didn’t have enough (I bought for my money when they completely fell apart), although we were not burdened by long runs in the field or by marching in my unit. How infantry fit into the timing for me is a mystery.


      For two years I changed two boots. In principle, the first couple of years and a half attributed. Well, it’s clear that there were also berets boots, but they wore few. Sneakers. In them, probably more than climbing shoes. And so, boots and boots. I held on. Although he repaired, heel interrupted twice. This is taking into account the fact that I had to run into them, and grease the flanks and climb the Pamir mountains. smile Although for many the kirsa fell apart for half a year.
    2. Jackking
      Jackking 30 December 2015 10: 30 New
      +3
      To be honest - surprised. I had 2 pairs for 2 years - I prepared the 3rd pair for the demobilization. The servicemen will understand that the top of the bootleg is obliquely cut, the turned heel is ironed with bootleg ironed with shoe iron! And the lacing on the airborne boots was originally! smile
  35. marshes
    marshes 29 December 2015 15: 10 New
    +4
    And who went on guard in a sheepskin coat?
    especially if it's 70 ... size laughing Like a raincoat tent or figs you, a cleaver stood. smile
    1. palm
      palm 29 December 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      And who went on guard in a sheepskin coat?
      the one who really pulled the strap was walking. "theorist" charter look through at your leisure
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 16: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Palm
        the one who really pulled the strap was walking. "theorist" charter look through at your leisure

        What's wrong?
    2. Glot
      Glot 29 December 2015 15: 50 New
      +8
      And who went on guard in a sheepskin coat?


      A sentry is a corpse wrapped in a sheepskin coat, instructed to tears and thrown into the cold. laughing
    3. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 29 December 2015 16: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: marshes
      And who went on guard in a sheepskin coat?

      We had one sheepskin coat per post. The whole science is how to change a sheepskin coat when changing sentries without releasing a weapon. wink And under the sheepskin coat, and under the overcoat a pea jacket, and under the pea jacket, a jacket and under a jacket, a tunic, legs on itself. In short, onion. wink
      Quote: marshes
      I was only a sheet in schools and filed, inserting PVC insulation from the wire, who knows he will understand.

      I got another experiment when they tried to introduce plastic gateways. Well, quickly removed this innovation.
      Those who wore boots and know how to wind footcloths understand how brilliant this invention is.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 16: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Was Mammoth
        I got another experiment when they tried to introduce plastic gateways. Well, quickly removed this innovation.

        And in what year was it?
        Quote: Was Mammoth
        Those who wore boots and know how to wind footcloths understand how brilliant this invention is.

        At the moment, almost every other day I dress the kirzachi.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 29 December 2015 16: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: marshes
          And in what year was it?

          Somewhere in the years 73-74. Thrown away. Hemmed as usual.
          The granddaughter somehow wrapped rags on her legs and runs. Blurted out. He planted, taught footcloths to wind. Then the three-year-old of her father taught footcloths to wind. wink
          1. marshes
            marshes 29 December 2015 16: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Was Mammoth
            Somewhere in the years 73-74. Thrown away. Hemmed as usual.

            Yes, then I just "drew" laughing .
            Father PSh filed up to 88 to the field. And then when the field exit. Strange lumps he did not have, the Air Force, were technically appreciated blue.
            Strange, they could introduce a neck scarf, but this is from the category of the bourgeoisie. Then I wore it 90-00, a convenient thing. For that, the hemming is clean, but there are no furuncles.
            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 29 December 2015 16: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: marshes
              Strange, they could introduce a neck scarf, but this is from the category of the bourgeoisie.

              Hemming is a thing for hygiene. Therefore, it was necessary to hem in constantly. A scarf is an extra attribute, although it’s probably convenient. Every day you will not change it.
              Quote: marshes
              My father taught me ....

              Me too.
              1. marshes
                marshes 29 December 2015 17: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Was Mammoth
                . Every day you will not change it.

                He washed daily, even when he was on a business trip. A green satin scarf. Moreover, a ready-made tourniquet. Yes Americanism ... But it is ready on the neck. You do not need to wind it on your butt.
          2. marshes
            marshes 29 December 2015 16: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: Was Mammoth
            The granddaughter somehow wrapped rags on her legs and runs. Blurted out. He planted, taught footcloths to wind. Then the three-year-old of her father taught footcloths to wind.

            My father taught me, then he was a carduel at all, at first in boots and then in kirzachi a youngster. In our school, the 80s were forbidden to come in kirzachi and the snowballs uncoiled the ice path from the entrance from school.
            Yes, and probably half the micra learned to transfer the pain from hitting the boot to the shin. My mazol was formed on the shins or from the kirsach or after stuffing with a gymnastic stick, Goju-ryu then keushinkai. smile
      2. tolancop
        tolancop 29 December 2015 17: 17 New
        +5
        "... Who wore boots and knows how to wind footcloths understand how brilliant this invention is"
        TRUE verb, dear !!!
    4. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 29 December 2015 17: 27 New
      +2
      but you’ll get in a snowdrift and fine lol
  36. rudolff
    rudolff 29 December 2015 15: 52 New
    +7
    In a sheepskin coat on guard? There was a thing ... When she was urgent, in Moscow. Frost was at night at forty, and a shift of two hours. Although in such a frost, according to the charter, an hour is required, but ... They wore everything they could. On top of the PS is a padded jacket and cotton pants, then an overcoat and a sheepskin coat on top. Needless boots. Without a sheepskin coat they could not stand it. Cool stuff! But ... If you fall, without help you can not get up.
  37. palm
    palm 29 December 2015 15: 57 New
    -6
    on a kirsa citizen it’s really not bad. But I don’t remember a kirsu for the army with a kind word. in the summer it is hot in the winter it is cold in the muddy feet are constantly wet. and after the march-throw with a full calculation on the legs it seems that weights were suspended. Romance damn ...
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 16: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Palm
      in the summer it is hot in the winter it is cold in the muddy feet are constantly wet. and after the march-throw with a full calculation on the legs it seems that weights were suspended. Romance damn ...

      In the summer, and most of all, in the winter the same is not bad.
      Where did they serve?
      1. palm
        palm 4 January 2016 21: 45 New
        0
        Xavo Turkvo
    2. tolancop
      tolancop 29 December 2015 17: 28 New
      +3
      It is strange that you have negative memories from the army kirsa ... I served in Siberia - it’s hot in summer and cold in winter, but I have no reason to complain about the terrible uncomfortability of the kirzachs. And I had to go into them and in severe frosts. There was even a small incident: the commander ordered the whole part to be worn in felt boots, but I didn’t find a large size and felt boots suitable for my leg. The whole part is in felt boots, I am alone in boots. The construction commander noticed and began to stick the company. The company man moved the arrow on the rear. The commander did not calm down until he received confirmation from the half-bloodlot and the warehouse manager that there was a large appeal, but there was nowhere to take such felt boots .. So I "flaunted" weeks 2 or 3. And nothing. And about wet feet in the mud, IMHO, if in the boots you couldn’t protect your feet from moisture, then in other shoes even more so.
      1. marshes
        marshes 29 December 2015 17: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: tolancop
        I’m a big size and boots that fit my leg

        as I understand in the ranks ahead stood smile .
        We had felt boots with such dimensions that I climbed into it with a boot 43. And then, good for my father, he flaunted his winter winter boots.
        But it’s a shame that the Air Force, Navy and Army support were different.
        I pulled on gloves at the field exit, demi-season air force, here's the thing. With a scarf on my neck, with a wagon and gloves, I looked like an officer in the 40s.
        1. tolancop
          tolancop 29 December 2015 21: 49 New
          +3
          Ahead stood, you correctly noticed it ... stood "as three poplars on Plyushchikha" and stood out with a non-standard look ...
  38. Edge
    Edge 29 December 2015 16: 09 New
    +6
    “A large mirror hangs in front of the ladder to the wardroom. And every time I go down to eat, I see myself in all its glory, starting from the legs. In the mirror, Russian tarpaulin boots appear, and then my whole graceful figure, not burdened with fatty deposits.
    And every time I think that heavy Russian boots easily make a Russian man a man. Even if he is not a man at all from nature itself or from fatal fatigue. That is the secret of our invincibility! The soldier who has obtained his boots is doubly a soldier. And if with a squeak, yes new ones, and if louder rumble with horseshoes on the steps, then any zhumryshka in Russian boots is already a daredevil from daredevils!
    And this strengthening agent costs twelve rubles. "
    Viktor Konetsky "Yesterday's Concerns" (author of the script "Striped Flight")
  39. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 29 December 2015 16: 14 New
    +4
    Very good article. Thank you, Sophia. What an amazing invention! Everything is for Victory!
  40. andrewkor
    andrewkor 29 December 2015 17: 34 New
    +3
    And I served a long time ago, but I still wear work boots with footcloths, since there are no problems with the material - old sheets are all that.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 17: 55 New
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      And I served a long time ago, but I still wear work boots with footcloths, since there are no problems with the material - old sheets are all that.

      By the way, I heard you’re not in a bad shape, they have your cap with a cap, brown prasrasras and shoes are not bad, what they offered though looks like Turkish.
  41. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 29 December 2015 18: 41 New
    0
    It is interesting of course, only the Red Army men for the most part fought the whole war in boots with windings.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 18: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Klibanophoros
      It is interesting of course, only the Red Army men for the most part fought the whole war in boots with windings.

      It was funny when an officer was taken prisoner.
  42. marshes
    marshes 29 December 2015 19: 13 New
    +3
    In the comments Pvshniki noted so that musical greetings. From the "Big"-TAIL, with documents.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 22: 03 New
      0
      By the way, she was so small. laughing
      already ... 15 dog ....
  43. aspid163
    aspid163 29 December 2015 19: 50 New
    +3
    I also have a vacca. I smeared my leather berets with it and then went for a week with blue legs.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 20: 04 New
      0
      Quote: aspid163
      I also have a vacca. I smeared my leather berets with it and then went for a week with blue legs.

      Stop, what kind of berets? laughing
  44. Signaller
    Signaller 29 December 2015 19: 52 New
    +2
    Honestly, I did not happen to go to them. Slzgil in 74 to 76 in the GSVG. We had summer. Not a bad option. A year in them went according to the norms. Then new ones. Yes, and it’s not so cold in Germany - tailored t-shirts in winter m PSH. In the summer of HB and ordinary footcloths. Here are just my youth boots I got the first. Polyurethane soles and heels like Cossacks now. Settled nothing. The main size came up, did not fly and did not sting. Right on the foot.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 20: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      Slzgil in 74 to 76 in the GSVG. We had summer.

      And here’s the “recognition” and who served in the western war zone. They didn’t wear kirtzachs, yuftivs, yalovy and lame men. And so that they wouldn’t seem poor. Summer boots were worn with rubber molded soles. Well, the theme is elegant . smile .
      but in general, who came from the GBV ... I have a coffee set, it's something, not an Afghan with a mogul!
      The initial soundtrack is especially gorgeous.
  45. 73petia
    73petia 29 December 2015 20: 02 New
    +5
    Normal piers with leather insole on brass nails!
    Now they don’t do it anymore. Now the boots are glued on
    steel nails. Rubbish. Two months is no longer enough.
    Ask for porridge. Boots on brass nails go year and don’t ask for porridge.
    Heels are stomped and their legs are rubbed.
    But it is being repaired.
    1. marshes
      marshes 29 December 2015 20: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: 73petia
      . Boots on brass nails go year and don’t ask for porridge.

      On birch, wood, nails. Dear Cossacks. Felt hats, rabbit ....
      Quote: 73petia
      Heels are stomped and their legs are rubbed.
      But it is being repaired.

      If you have good boots, you can immediately stick on an additional rubber band at the shoemaker.

      my shoemaker, a citizen of Georgia ....
      The tailor of these .... laughing
  46. Kibl
    Kibl 29 December 2015 20: 23 New
    +4
    But my mother did graduate work when she studied at the Moscow Institute of Light Industry, the faculty of designing leather products (shoe makers), namely the design of the all-army kirzach boot of the 1949 model. And that was in 1970!
  47. Uruska
    Uruska 29 December 2015 20: 27 New
    +4
    In Soviet times, footcloths were cotton (summer) and flannel (winter). Cloth in the middle lane was not. Maybe in the northern regions were cloth (woolen)? They changed weekly. Washed in military laundries. Cadets of military schools were given uft boots. Couple for a year. Heavy. And get wet, as well as tarpaulin, as well as berets. Sometimes in summer camps issued tarpaulin boots. We wore them with pleasure. They are lighter. But, they are rubbed on the folds. During the transitional period, contract soldiers could wear berets, and conscripts could wear tarpaulin. I had a shoemaker soldier. He took tarpaulin boots and sewed the upper from old berets to them. It turned out very carefully (berets were in short supply). I believe that in due time tarpaulin boots, footcloths, gates, quilted jackets and earflaps (Finnish) played a very important role in the Red and Soviet Army. But, one must look for them a replacement from modern materials, new solutions, technologies ...
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 29 December 2015 21: 46 New
      +2
      Right! winter flannel footcloths were not cloth. This I confused for the past years.
  48. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 29 December 2015 20: 33 New
    +4
    He served in the border troops of the Republic of Belarus, after the boots with high berets were introduced, at first all conscripts were happy, but then instead of the received berets (those who entered the outfit for guarding the GG) they themselves bought ordinary pickaxes in which it turned out to be much better, more comfortable, the leg didn’t gets tired and breathes, well, and rewind the footcloth dry side and forward.
  49. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 29 December 2015 21: 41 New
    +3
    I read a lot of interesting things about the "kirzachs", I didn’t have to wear it myself, either in the school or on the ship.
    1. Rusfaner
      Rusfaner 18 October 2016 14: 07 New
      0
      On the ship, is it, like, "bastards"?
  50. tolancop
    tolancop 29 December 2015 21: 44 New
    +4
    [quote = uwzek] [quote = vladimir_krm] ... The praises of the kirze are sung by people who have never spent more than nine hours in a row without changing shoes ... [/ quote]
    If under re-shoeing it is meant to be swollen-rewound a footcloth-shod, then it is unclear what you need to do in order not to find a couple of minutes to fix the footcloth. If changing shoes means changing shoes as such, then .... I had to go on a business trip at one time, where there was simply nowhere to change shoes. So he spent 5 days in boots (he rewind footcloths). Nothing, the legs fell off.