Who and why chooses the path of terror

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Who and why chooses the path of terrorIt so happened that I had to discuss with the famous journalist Maxim Shevchenko, who reposted the material on Facebook under the heading "How the FSB turned an athlete and a pupil into a terrorist." It was about a Moscow State University student, Varvara Karaulova, who tried to go over to the side of the Islamic State (IG) banned in Russia, but, in the opinion of a respected colleague who became a decoy of the FSB. The topic, especially in connection with the latest events, seemed to me important. Especially since, looking at the statistics, I found the following data. According to Rosfinmonitoring, in 2013 – 2014 more than 3,5 thousand Russian citizens sent money to terrorist groups. Financial assistance was sent from the 80 regions of the country. For the two years indicated, 40 million rubles were spent on the maintenance of terrorists, from January to early September 2015 only 300 million left the country to support the IG. According to the Interior Ministry, announced at the recent press conference Head Vladimir Kolokoltsev, 1800 Russians.

WHAT RADICALISM IS ATTRACTIVE


Indeed, why do people become radicalized? After all, the fate of the same Barbara would most likely be unenviable if she managed to cross the Turkish-Syrian border and join the ranks of the IG. She would have become a concubine or a lively bomber bomb, and maybe both.

Of course, only very naive people or simple duels can believe in FSB intrigues (although a Russian proverb on this subject is also known). With the current level of technology to identify recruiters of IG in social networks, live decoy ducks are not needed. Now, all the police of the world of pedophiles are revealed with the help of avatars, without resorting to the help of real people. It is clear that it is not the FSB that makes potential terrorists out of “sportswomen and women pupils”, but who or what really?

In this regard, other examples of intention not already averted, but the direct participation of Russians in the activities of the IG deserve attention. It is about the executioner from Noyabrsk, 28-year-old Anatolia Zemlyanka. He became the hero of the video, in which he cut off the head of 23-year-old Russian Magomed Khasiyev. It is known that the Dugout left the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District in June 2013. In Noyabrsk, he left his parents and brother Taras Zemlyanka. Anatoly Zemlyanka, nicknamed Jihadi-Tolik, graduated from school number 3 in the city of Noyabrsk, Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District. And although, unlike Varvara, he studied mediocre, but he entered the Tyumen University and went in for sports.

I must say that in our editorial office these cases caused a lively discussion. Special sympathy caused Barbara. Not everyone had the idea of ​​how a gold medalist of the Russian school and a university student could find herself voluntarily in the networks of jihadists.

I think that the search for an answer to this question is important given the spread of terrorism throughout the world. But here it is necessary to see two aspects, why people underestimate (or do not understand) the danger of terrorism and especially the disastrous consequences both for the individual and for the society to go under his banners. And on the other hand, to understand what pushes young people to such a fatal step. And it seems to me that these are sides of the same coin.

The first question I, in fact, answered at the beginning of the article. This is characteristic of the Russian intelligentsia (and after all, almost everyone who has a crust on higher education considers himself an intellectual) a distrust and a critical attitude to power. Incidentally, the Russian philosopher Berdyaev spoke about such intellectuals. In his opinion, “this kind of world, which until now has been living a closed life under double pressure, pressure from external — reactionary power (Berdyaev spoke of the power at that time, but my opponents, of course, mean today's. - NVO) internal - inertness of thought and conservatism of feelings, not without reason is called "intellectuals", unlike intellectuals, in the broad, national, general historical sense of the word. " From what Berdyaev said in the XIX century, a lot, in my opinion, is true in the XXI.

TERRORIST GOING


Now let's analyze the way of a young man to terrorists. Statistics claim that in 2014, 32,6 thousand people died at the hands of terrorists. These figures are indicated by the study “International Terrorism Index”, which, according to the BBC news agency, recently published by the Australian Institute of Economics and Peace. This is 80% more than in the 2013 year. Compared to 2000, the number of victims of terrorist attacks in the world has increased ninefold.

Most of the attacks occur in five countries - Iraq, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria. In these countries, 78% of people who were victims of terrorists last year died. Gradually, however, terrorism from these countries spread to other states. The number of countries in which more than 500 people died at the hands of terrorists increased from 5 in 2013 to 11 in 2014. In 67 countries, at least 1 people died at the hands of terrorists last year. These included France, Belgium, Austria, Australia, Canada, etc. In these countries, terrorist attacks are more likely to be done by loners. Who becomes a terrorist in the modern world?

The British Agency BBC published on this subject a collection of materials on the study of this problem by famous scientists. If to summarize their conclusions, the agency notes, then mainly educated people from the middle class are at risk. And the risk situation becomes the political situation in the country where the person comes from. Civil wars, armed conflicts, or excessive restrictions on citizens ’freedoms often stimulate terrorism. Thus, according to UN expert Nassra Hassan, who worked in Iraq for 1996 – 1999 and interviewed suicide bombers who did not succeed in the attack, ordinary members of terrorist organizations, as well as members of their families, mainly received a good education. They were led by religious beliefs, as well as political motives. This provision fully corresponds to the social status of the Russian Varvara and Anatoly.

It is also known that the ideas of serving the IG they came through the Internet. In 2010, Anatoly started a page on the social network VKontakte. There he appeared under the name Tolik Taymulla. The latest entries are dated 2011 year. The last status of the dugout: “Cry of a man is the tears of a lion!” From the point of view of psychoanalysis, in this case we are talking about obvious dissatisfaction with the current status and an attempt to assert itself on the basis of a revaluation of values.

What is important in this case for this category of young people? The barbarian, apparently, could not draw the line between absolute evil, which is the IG, and good. Anatoly deliberately chose evil. In other words, their basic values ​​(if any) turned out to be very conditional. By and large, the basic Christian commandments can be attributed to these values: do not kill, do not steal ... and basic human sins: pride and others.

As is known, the question of the path to terrorism occupied Russian writers in the nineteenth century. In this regard, it suffices to recall the famous "Demons" of Dostoevsky, where a generalized type of revolutionary terrorist was derived at that time. It is said that Russian nihilist Sergey Nechaev, who compiled the Catechism of a Revolutionary, was a prototype of his, a unique document in stories terrorist and revolutionary movement. By the way, Vladimir Lenin spoke rather favorably about this terrorist. Judging by the approach, terrorists of the last century and the current Islamic terrorists were distinguished only by the proclaimed goal. They had no other differences. Fanaticism was their guide to action. But fanaticism is not born from scratch.

THE MAIN RISK IS A SILENCE OF SOCIETY


Scientists name several potential causes pushing people to terrorism. One of the first to present his version was a Harvard scholar Alberto Abadi in his work on 2004 of the year. He believes that the matter is political freedom. At the heart of the work of a Harvard scholar is the International Terrorism Index, calculated by the World Market Research Center for 186 countries of the world. With this indicator, Abadi identified the terrorist risk for each country: how likely a terrorist attack is in it. He compared this indicator with GDP per capita, the Human Development Index, which takes into account incomes, the level of health and education of people in countries, and the Gini coefficient, which measures the level of stratification in society. In addition, he compared the terrorist risks with the Political Rights Index, which is calculated by Freedom House. It turned out that the latter to the greatest extent explains the risks of terrorism.

In countries where political rights are too limited, terrorist risks are very high. Such countries include most of the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Russia.

However, the risk turned out to be high for countries with a low index value, that is, where the political rights of citizens are almost unlimited. These liberal democracies include much of Europe and the United States. In the security zone, there are only states with a moderate level of political freedom, which are not many in the world.

But what about a student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University or a student of the Tyumen technical college? What criteria do they fall under? Formally, everything can be explained by the very index of political rights - after all, Russia is in a risk zone. And, probably, the transition of the Caucasian underground to the side of the IG is connected, among other things, with a similar factor. But, in my opinion, factors such as the lack of spirituality of existence, a divided family (in the case of Barbarians), when there was practically no time for the development of a person, a limited outlook and a primitive environment, typical just for many Russian schools and universities. They created a kind of spiritual vacuum into which any ideas could be successfully introduced: from Muslim fanaticism to exotic religions or the teachings of the god Kuzi (a semi-literate impostor who had recently exposed his own sectarian teaching).

In this regard, for the prevention and prophylaxis of such phenomena, I think two aspects are important - the efforts of the state and the efforts of the public. From the point of view of the state, attention is drawn to the state program of patriotic education of Russians up to 2020, which caused a lot of comments in the media, including negative ones. But really, the cases of Barbara and Anatoly show that patriotism in the country is far from being at the highest level and previous efforts to bring it up cannot be considered effective. The propaganda of the eternal, humanitarian values ​​today is probably easier to carry out precisely from the standpoint of the church. And what kind of church it will be: Orthodox or Catholic, Muslim or Buddhist - does not play a special role. The humanitarian essence of their message to society is important.
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  1. +9
    26 December 2015 06: 11
    Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
    Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..
    It is clear to Russia that this is absolutely not realistic, but as an illustration about the breed and origins of terrorism it is quite suitable ...
    1. +17
      26 December 2015 06: 36
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
      Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..

      well, if Islam and mosques are banned in Russia, then the terror will not go anywhere, the point is who and what preaches, and most importantly the attitude towards them, many cases are known that the "preachers" are known but they pretend to be lambs and in refusal, or everyone knows the return from there of those who were burned there and run home and, as it were, repent like the devil beguiled, and they were scolded before their parents and at home, so if these runners and future jihadists were found in the swamps with a brick around their necks, then look and those who wish would decrease in social networks, there would be fewer sayings like-dogs bark and the caliphate is coming- and the guard would be about 15 years in the shoulders and let him sew quilted jackets on the zone, it would be very significant and others would be a little tempered
      1. 0
        26 December 2015 06: 53
        Quote: midivan
        but as an illustration about the breed and the origins of terrorism is quite suitable ...

        The point is ...
      2. +14
        26 December 2015 06: 54
        But really, the cases with Barbara and Anatoly show that patriotism in the country is far from the highest level

        Patriotism has nothing to do with it .... One was impatient (I wanted to see romance on my own) ,,, Second psycho finished ... hi And all this hype is fanned specially!
        1. +3
          26 December 2015 06: 56
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          And all this hype is fanned specially!

          In general, that’s exactly what it is ..
          1. +21
            26 December 2015 07: 07
            According to Rosfinmonitoring, in 2013-2014, more than 3,5 Russian citizens sent funds to terrorist groups

            Do we have a potion ??? Often in social networks and the like I see an appeal to help a sick child or someone else and who checks if there is a child or is it some kind of criminal group ???????
            1. +18
              26 December 2015 08: 24
              Quote: nemec55
              Do we have a potion ??


              General Vladimir Oskarovich Kappel: "It is necessary to convey, to instill our faith, to infect with our impulse, to instill love for real Russia, to transfer your soul to them, if necessary, but then their souls can be rebuilt! They can, they need, they must be made like us. They are also Russians, only drugged, deceived. They must, listening to our words, becoming infected with our example, revive in their souls the forgotten love for their real homeland, for which we are fighting. I demand, I command all my power to you all my old assistants, to forget about themselves, to forget that there is rest - to tell about what Russia was, what awaited it in the event of a victory over Germany, to remind what Russia is now. To breathe into their souls the pathos of victory over those who are now ruining Russia by deceiving them In the simplest words, to explain the absurdity and lifelessness of communism, which carries slavery, in which the entire Russian people will become a slave, and power under a red star will become the masters.We must squeeze our souls, our faith, our impulse into them, so that everything valuable and important for us becomes the same for them. And yet not a single word, not a single reproach for their past, not a single hint of enmity, even in the past. The main thing is that we are all Russians and Russia belongs to us, and there in the Kremlin is not Russian, a foreign international... Do not skimp on examples and give yourself completely to this work. "

              Alexey Borisovich Mozgovoy (from a letter to the Chairman of the State Duma): “Time has shown that only with the presence of the Russian National Project and the consolidation of the Russian people can one respond to modern threats.
              Despite the difference between the phrases "damned" and "Russian-speaking population", there is only one tendency to use it - the depersonalization and disintegration of the Russian people. This approach is not only wrong but also criminal. "

              Maybe this is extremism? Definitely for the Kremlin, but for you?
              1. +6
                26 December 2015 08: 57
                This is the only way to revive our People and Homeland.
              2. +6
                26 December 2015 10: 46
                In our country, the policy of radicalization is purposefully pursued by the Kremlin. There is no real political opposition in the country. Zyuganovites have long been nourished, while the fairies and Zhirinovites were originally Kremlin projects. Any other opposition not coordinated with the Kremlin is suppressed by all possible means, including defamation, criminal prosecution, etc. Elections are accompanied by widespread fraud and abuse, which no one pays attention to. Criticism of the current government beyond de facto banned. A little that you can easily rattle on the article about the violation of mass events, extremism, calls for the overthrow of power, etc. . Now imagine our youth who have not yet found those times when the decisions of our party were the only right ones, and it was better to keep silent about our own opinion, because those who are now 15-30 years old were brought up in an era of a kind of freedom and democracy. And these young people may have their own, possibly naive, ideals and ideas about life. And here they are faced with our black and white political world, where you are either with us or against us, and if so, then do not be offended if the whole machine of state coercion presses you. And many of those who are not indifferent, who are interested in social and political problems in the country, our state is trying to force to be like everyone else, or literally squeezes into radicals. So, instead of silent medalists, such barbarians of the guard appear here.
                1. 0
                  29 December 2015 18: 13
                  Quote: Nikolai K
                  There is no real political opposition in the country. Zyuganovites have long been fed,

                  Sorry, is this a complaint to anyone? is power to blame too?

                  Quote: Nikolai K
                  And many of those who are not indifferent, who are interested in social and political problems in the country, our state is trying to force to be like everyone else, or literally squeezes into radicals. So, instead of silent medalists, such barbarians of the guard appear here.

                  those. Varvara was not indifferent to political problems and all that happened was her protest against the "black and white political world"

                  maybe she just read the wrong books ...
            2. +2
              26 December 2015 08: 35
              Quote: nemec55
              According to Rosfinmonitoring, in 2013-2014, more than 3,5 Russian citizens sent funds to terrorist groups

              Do we have a potion ??? Often in social networks and the like I see an appeal to help a sick child or someone else and who checks if there is a child or is it some kind of criminal group ???????

              The wife's friend was taken right at work, kept in the "big" house for several hours ... for a comic picture in contact!
              1. +5
                26 December 2015 09: 01
                And not horseradish stupidly thoughtlessly post pictures!
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                2. 0
                  26 December 2015 14: 22
                  SashOK
                  Samaritan (8)
                  The wife's friend was taken right at work, kept in the "big" house for several hours ... for a comic picture in contact! 

                  And not horseradish stupidly thoughtlessly post pictures!

                  It is right! And then someone (from users on the Internet) with life experience and outlook will really understand that THIS is humor; and someone, on the contrary, foolishly take THIS for a "GUIDE" to action. In this case, a "dumb" post will act precisely as a political provocation. Nefig then be surprised at the appearance of FSB officers on the doorstep! There would be no people like Varvara Karaulova, Taras Zemlyanka and the like - the FSB officers, most likely, would not have come!
                3. -5
                  26 December 2015 18: 29
                  Of course, it is better to post clever pictures like "Who is for Putin - put a class." As I understand it, with such a pace, it will soon become our duty to "like" Putin, and who does not agree to go to jail. Recently in Krasnodar, a girl was sentenced to 2 years in a penal colony for publishing in Vkontakte.
                  http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2882988
                  1. +3
                    26 December 2015 18: 44
                    Nicholas
                    Recently in Krasnodar, a girl was sentenced to 2 years in a penal colony for publishing in Vkontakte.
                    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2882988

                    So nefig was "your" girl, to whom you refer and which you put as an example, to call in contact
                    go to the "march for the federalization of the Kuban." The last episode was the reason for initiating proceedings against her under Art. 280.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (calls for violation of the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation).
                    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2882988

                    Well, here, too, you have logically compared, as an opposition, completely incomparable things - humorous pictures and calls for real separatism!
                    1. +1
                      26 December 2015 19: 12
                      Tatyana, do you support the idea of ​​federalizing Ukraine and the right of the people of Donbass to decide their own destiny? Personally, I support. And Putin, by the way, also supports, and at the official level. So explain why we must adhere to the practice of double standards: on the one hand, by all means, support the freedom of self-determination of the residents of Crimea and Donbass, on the other hand, plant those Russians who propose holding a referendum (among other things, the right to which is enshrined in our constitution) on the federalization of the Kuban? It is clear that no one would have voted for it, but nonetheless. Imagine if in Catalonia or Scotland they would only give a term for an offer to hold a referendum, it would be just savagery. And with us this is reality.
                      Speaking of double standards. The FSB recently reported on the initiation of several hundred criminal cases under paragraph 2 of Art. 208 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "participation on the territory of a foreign state in an armed formation not provided for by the legislation of this state, for purposes contrary to the interests of the Russian Federation" in relation to ISIS members who returned to Russia. All this is good, but I am tormented by doubts: what about our citizens who fought on the side of the LPR and DPR in Donbass? After all, these formations are illegal and Russia recognizes this, the LPR and DPR are not part of Russia (again officially), i.e. belong to the territory of a foreign state. So, all the members of these formations also face up to 6 years in prison? Apparently not. Why? From the point of view of the law, I DON'T KNOW, probably it is believed that their goals do not contradict the interests of Russia, although I have not heard of the official position on this matter. In reality, it turns out that our law is like a rod, I want an execution, I want a sweet one. If he wanted to let him go free or amnestied for the stolen billions, he didn’t want to - put it to the fullest for the stolen three thousand rubles, etc. In my opinion, it is this policy of double standards that contributes to the loss of respect for this very state and leads to the radicalization of society.
                      1. +1
                        26 December 2015 20: 02
                        Do not worry you with unnecessary questions.
                        Do you know the joke: "Listen Givi, are you my friend or bear ...."
                      2. 0
                        27 December 2015 03: 58
                        Nicholas.
                        Tatyana, do you support the idea of ​​federalizing Ukraine and the right of the people of Donbass to decide their own destiny? Personally, I support. And Putin, by the way, also supports, and at the official level. So explain why we must adhere to the practice of double standards: on the one hand, by all means, support the freedom of self-determination of the residents of Crimea and Donbass, on the other hand, plant those Russians who propose holding a referendum (among other things, the right to which is enshrined in our constitution) on the federalization of the Kuban?
                        Nikolay, there are no double standards. There is a different background, the information about which you apparently missed back in 2014. I’ll tell you for a long time, I’ll say only briefly and refer you to the detailed primary sources, from which everything will become clear to you in detail.
                        In Ukraine, near Slavyansk, Lugansk and nearby cities, there is a large shale gas field, which was sold to Yanukovych by the Americans, British and Poles in January 2014. Therefore, citizens of Ukraine living on these lands - on the land of their ancestors - turned out to be illegally located on the land of another person’s land and must move out without any compensation upon the first request of the new owners of this territory. They are simply forcibly driven off their land. In other words, pure genocide was organized against them by the pro-American Ukrainian authorities in Kiev. These people defend their right to live on the land of their ancestors. The Russian language in this case is secondary. The Kiev authorities simply brought the population of these regions to the requirement of autonomy within the federation.
                        Is there anything similar in the Kuban? Or in the Krasnodar Territory?
                        The residents' requirements for federation must be justified. And since this is the introduction of a new territorial-administrative division, the question arises - to whom, why and why is this needed? What national composition will this territorial-administrative division have and why? Moreover, the Kuban itself, which is part of the Krasnodar Territory, does not coincide along the borders with the Krasnodar Territory itself and is smaller than it in size. Historically, the Kuban itself is inhabited by the Black Sea (formerly Zaporozhye) Cossacks.
                        At present, in everyday life, the Krasnodar Territory is called the Kuban and, conversely, the Kuban is the Krasnodar Territory. This territory has historically been in the zone of interest of Turkey. Why does Krasnodar Territory or Kuban need federal autonomy? Guess with 3 times.
                        I recommend links to this information.
                        1. What is America doing? - http://topwar.ru/52987-kakyu-zadachu-rechaet-amerika.html
                        2. URGENTLY! UKRAINE SOLD! FOR SHALE GAS !!! - JULIETTO CHIESA -
                        http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/2930900/post330772455
                        3. Type exactly in the search line exactly like this “Russian question. Zueva TF "- (full name" The Russian Question. National Crisis and Democracy: the Administrative-Territorial Structure of Russia "select the Russian National Library) -
                        http://primo.nlr.ru/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=07NLR_VU1&searc

                        h_scope = default_scope & docId = 07NLR_LMS010189542 & fn = permalink
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                      4. -1
                        27 December 2015 10: 56
                        "In Ukraine, near Slavyansk, Lugansk and nearby cities there is a large shale gas field, which Yanukovych sold to the Americans, the British and the Poles in January 2014. Therefore, the citizens of Ukraine living on these lands - on the land of their ancestors - were in fact those who are illegally on the land of a foreign owner and must leave without any compensation at the first demand of the new owners of this territory. They are simply forcibly driven from their land. In other words, against them, the pro-American Ukrainian authorities in Kiev organized genocide in their purest form. "

                        Tatyana, where have you heard such tales? As I understand it, you have already grown out of school age, and believe in fairy tales. Probably because you do not know the laws well. Apparently, from your point of view, there was especially a lot of shale gas directly beneath the cities of Slavyansk, Gorlovka and Donetsk, whose inhabitants were going to drive everyone to one, because they were especially fiercely protecting their homes.

                        Continuing the theme of poor knowledge of the law. Just in case, I inform you that Russia is a FEDERAL state and, for example, the republics of the North Caucasus have a special federal status. So if you stick to your fairy tales, oh sorry, conspiracy theories, then the federal subjects of the Russian Federation were always in the zone of interests of Turkey and so far, as you see, no one has expressed a desire to join Turkey. Regarding the question of why federalization is needed by the Kuban, I will say my opinion: why not. Nevertheless, there is a law and a constitution of the Russian Federation, and people have the right to submit for discussion to a referendum any issues that they consider necessary, even if this is outright stupidity and no one else will support them. And to clamp on 2 of the year for stupidity is an outspoken search. I emphasize that there is a LAW, and not a momentary understanding of the political situation that arose among individual law enforcement officers or judges after reading any articles and notes on the Internet that you, for example, refer to.
                        And the notes posted on a social network by some young doo. . . that is, girls are much less harmful and dangerous for the state than similar short-sighted sentences that demonstrate the implementation of double standards by state authorities, educate citizens of legal nigelism, create a sense of legal insecurity and thereby radicalize society. Personally, I am ashamed of my state, where such sentences are passed.
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                      6. -1
                        27 December 2015 11: 11
                        Imagine, these questions excite me. Because, our criminal code makes potential criminals of all our militias in the Donbass. Yes, they don’t touch them now, but, given that in our country the law that draws and its interpretations are changed by the wave of the wand of the bosses sitting on top, how do you know if they would consider it politically expedient to surrender all these people at some point?
        2. 0
          26 December 2015 07: 30
          A funny phrase "patriotism in the country" !!!
          How should patriotism appear? Upon the issue of a birth certificate?
          Or after the speeches of our leadership?
          1. +17
            26 December 2015 07: 54
            Quote: Reduktor
            How should patriotism appear? Upon the issue of a birth certificate?

            He appears from mom and dad! And as you grow older and the moment when you are already able to distinguish between what is fair and what is not, then its final design depends on you !!!
            1. +5
              26 December 2015 08: 41
              Quote: sssla
              And as you grow older and the moment when you are already able to distinguish between what is fair and what is not, then its final design depends on you !!!

              Yes, it’s still being drawn up !!! Stumble.
              1. +11
                26 December 2015 10: 18
                Yes, the fact that Gazprom Media owns TNT, the most "moral" channel, is enough.
                Yes, and journalists .... two-faced, today patriots, and yesterday -
                1. +4
                  26 December 2015 11: 00
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Yes, and journalists .... two-faced, today patriots, and yesterday -

                  Igor, because the catechism is binding, how can you argue against this? request
                  And what does the papa-rabbi say?
                2. +4
                  26 December 2015 12: 38
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Yes, the fact that Gazprom Media owns TNT, the most "moral" channel, is enough.


                  I didn’t know, my colleague, that the Millers and the senior Medvedevs were the owners of TNT. The news struck my word of honor. Now it is clear why this der ... oh, our children are watching, because "Gasprom" is a national treasure ", together with TNT. belay
                  1. +3
                    26 December 2015 21: 08
                    Did anyone pay attention to the Power of Siberia advertisement? the arrow with all this power of beauty, health, etc., flees to China ...
            2. 0
              26 December 2015 13: 01
              Do not confuse love for the Motherland and family with "patriotism for the country"
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              2. +2
                26 December 2015 19: 40
                I would say do not confuse love for the homeland with devotion and humility to individual leaders of the country.
        3. +8
          26 December 2015 08: 10
          Although I put a plus to the article, I think the author in the article went around and around, and even with a conclusion. The topic is relevant, but more global and does not come down only to suicide bombers and humanitarian messages (by the way, it sounds like the slogan of pacifists, although men should be advocates, and this is no longer pacifism, and the church must be protected). This topic is the priorities of our society and the propaganda of their power, the theme of iPhones, wheelbarrows, clothes (the idols of our consumer society, by the way, are a real ideology and I think it is actively moving as a release of social tension) and the topic of crime. In a word, this topic boils down to the right choice of priorities (and their combination) in domestic and foreign policy ....... these priorities, which are peculiar to us Russians in mentality. Only priorities are built on the basis of goals, but sometimes you can really prioritize to make a conclusion about goals (if they are unknown), and who will say what our goal is in Russia now? After all, we have priorities.
      3. +10
        26 December 2015 07: 38
        Quote: midivan
        Well, if Islam and mosques are banned in Russia, then terror will not go anywhere

        And why do you think that terrorism and Islam are synonyms? Look for someone who benefits.
        Probably now there is no one who will say that September 11 is the work of the brainless Ben Incense.
        1. +5
          26 December 2015 08: 42
          Quote: fraer
          Quote: midivan
          Well, if Islam and mosques are banned in Russia, then terror will not go anywhere

          And why do you think that terrorism and Islam are synonyms?


          And you inquire about the religion of the organizers of all the last terrorist attacks in 20 years (I suppose you can even find several Christians and even Buddhists among tens / hundreds / thousands of Muslims, only an exception will only confirm the rule). Also, do not forget about the religion of the ISIS, al-Qaeda, Taliban and others. The statistics are very indicative and like it or not, it leads to one answer to your question - "Because the absolute majority of terrorists are Muslims."
          1. +8
            26 December 2015 09: 22
            Quote: Rarog
            "Because the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims."

            How we are running. Well, why does everyone see only performers? Why are they only inclined in cases? Why don't we see who is behind this? And this is not the Bedouin Bin Laden, chosen for this role only because he is supposedly a Muslim. Think about who stood across the throat of the Koran, who does not recognize loan interest? Due to the loan interest, the whole world is at their feet.
            And only the Koran does not allow to complete globalization.
            1. +1
              26 December 2015 09: 38
              It’s a pity that you have everything started. Think, maybe there is still a chance to fix everything ?! Well, if without jokes, then you also have a series of questions for backfilling:

              Call them by name (those who are behind it)? Is there any proof? Is there any confirmation that "customers" can still control their "wards"? Or maybe it is the Saudi sheikhs who use the West and its resources to establish religious fascism of the Salafist persuasion around the world, and for all those who disagree - "head-ax"? Why exactly Muslims do not dislike being the perpetrators of the spread of world terror? The Mohammedans like to kill people in the most savage way, is it in their religious nature?
              1. +3
                26 December 2015 09: 49
                Quote: Rarog
                You have a series of questions about backfill:

                I'm reading.
                Quote: Rarog
                Call them by name (those who are behind it)? Is there any evidence?

                Zionism, the main weapon of which is loan interest.
                The Quran does not recognize loan interest. Therefore, it must be destroyed.
                They don’t hesitate in money. Even creating pseudo-teachings of a Muslim sense.
                A reference should be a personal understanding of the processes taking place on planet Earth. I have it.
                1. +4
                  26 December 2015 09: 59
                  I share your point of view about those who are trying to rule the ball on the ball, but we have no evidence of a world conspiracy. Then, even if this is true, it does not cancel the desires of those same ter.organizations to establish a worldwide caliphate and destroy all non-Muslims. And there’s a dime a dozen evidence, they launch their video messages to the world every day. In this situation, it is generally not clear who uses whom and for what purpose.

                  Quote: fraer
                  A reference should be a personal understanding of the processes taking place on planet Earth. I have it.

                  Only you have one? Is your only understanding correct?
                  1. +1
                    26 December 2015 10: 14
                    Quote: Rarog
                    Only you have one? Is your only understanding correct?

                    Oh, come on, you. I’m not the navel of the earth. I'm just learning hi
                    There is just an understanding, a conviction. And here in my opinion (only mine) I built my point of view from general to particular. You are from particulars to the general.
                    Quote: Rarog
                    And there’s a dime a dozen evidence, they launch their video messages to the world every day. In this situation, it is generally not clear who uses whom and for what purpose.

                    Well, we did not hold a candle when cutting heads. It could have been, could have been. request And take it at face value ...
          2. +3
            26 December 2015 09: 36
            Quote: Rarog
            And you take an interest in the religion of the organizers of all the latest attacks

            The worship of the organizers who are at the very beginning is the service of Mammon.
            1. +3
              26 December 2015 09: 46
              And the innocent Islamists cutting off their heads, blowing up people, promising to create a worldwide religious fascist caliphate and annihilate all those who disagree each time cry with burning tears, because in fact they do not want to do this, their bad uncles forced them to. And yes, every member is ter. not voluntarily came to cut, rob and kill organizations and knows that he is essentially a serf among the servants of the mammon, and in his heart he is white and fluffy. Doesn’t resemble anything? For example - ONE-CHILD!
              1. +1
                26 December 2015 13: 32
                Quote: Rarog
                For example - ONE-CHILD

                If I’m not mistaken, then these were not Muslims, but Bandera. And their religion is fascism.
                Quote: Rarog
                And the innocent Islamists

                And who said that the performers are innocent? I definitely didn’t say that. But you suggested take an interest in the religion of the organizers of all the recent terrorist attacks in 20 years I’m talking about them - their faith ministry to mammon. And what slogans will they promote by unleashing another slaughter - of the Reich or the Caliphate, these are already working moments
          3. +4
            26 December 2015 09: 50
            this is true for a short period of time, about 50 years. And the history of terrorism is several times longer. In the second half of the 19th century, bombs and shots came from the Volunteers, at the beginning of the 20th century from left-wing revolutionaries, at the end of the 20th century from nationalist groups and leftists, and only from 80-90 years of the twentieth century began to acquire Islamism among terrorists
          4. +3
            26 December 2015 17: 55
            Quote: Rarog
            And you take an interest in the religion of the organizers of all the recent terrorist attacks in 20 years (I think you can even find several Christians and even Buddhists among tens / hundreds / thousands of Muslims, only an exception will only confirm the rule).

            why should I be interested? I was not born yesterday (1976), they have already listed everything below, it’s only to add that Islam is a conservative faith and took advantage of it, and even then with the advent of the global network it will leave slowly, the more access to knowledge the less there will be those who wanted to cut their heads, they used the keyword, but who? You definitely can’t say it, everyone uses the best of all of the following to the best of his ability, and if everyone could name and prove it, it would hardly change anything, or perhaps make them take extreme measures and who will stop them? as recent events show, few people need at least the example of Syria, and one in the field .....
      4. +6
        26 December 2015 07: 47
        Quote: midivan
        heard in England struggled with such a method of stitching corpses in pork skins
        - In order not to reach such drastic measures, you need to educate children at home. Talk about your ancestry, about the Motherland, about patriotism, about the fact that there are all kinds of evil spirits that grew up in reverence for the West and love for the golden Mamon. And how to resist it. And only then you can be sure that your child will not be seduced by an ornate verbiage. And in our country, many "parents", apart from mats, cannot connect two words, and in schools, although there are still high-quality teachers, a lot of random dullness has appeared. But what can I say, judging by the speeches of some of the recent HSE teachers, you think that these guys hate Russia no less than the strategists from the Pentagon.
        1. +4
          26 December 2015 18: 16
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          In order not to reach such radical measures, it is necessary to educate children of the house.

          I didn’t talk about children, but for those children who are already 25 or more to educate them? and parenting is already a strategy, I was talking about tactics, or do you think that parents didn’t give education to those who travel? Karalova Moscow State University, do you think everyone can afford to study there? Maybe parents missed somewhere, but I think that there was too much freedom , start with liberals education in the teachings of IV Stalin in the fresh air smile of the same gays and all dishonesty, the people we are so we cannot be a carrot but without a whip wink a whip is needed for better digestion of gingerbread. otherwise heartburn bully litter for a pun the head is bursting with seriousness already
      5. +2
        26 December 2015 12: 47
        Yes, it’s not a matter of Islam or a funeral in a pig’s skin. The fact is that terrorism is used as a tool to combat the unwanted. They will stop using it and there will not be such a wave of terrorism. There in the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th how many terrorist acts were in Russia. Was there at least one Muslim involved? No one. For this, the ears of the British and French special services stick out from all the revolutionary parties. And now, too, all the strings go overseas
        1. +3
          26 December 2015 18: 18
          Quote: ZAV69
          Yes, it’s not a matter of Islam or a funeral in a pig’s skin. The fact is that terrorism is used as a tool to combat the unwanted. Will cease to use and will not become such a wave of terrorism

          and also will cease to be used if there is no desire to be used wink
    2. +3
      26 December 2015 07: 05
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Why is there no terrorism in Japan?

      Look wider: because Japan itself is of critical strategic importance for the United States in the Pacific. And one more thing: Don't you find it surprising that a rather weak book "Poisonous Fish" has been written about Japan? This is me for a question that is not only about Islam.
    3. +13
      26 December 2015 07: 40
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..

      I personally on the drum, what is the name of the house in which a person goes to pray and how he does it. But only until thenuntil he says that his god is nishtyak and the rest are bullshit. And the rest of the people must either believe in their god, or be destroyed. In this moment believer is turning in a religious fanatic and should, at least, pray to his god for many, many years in a solitary confinement of 1,5x2,5 meters.
      1. +4
        26 December 2015 18: 23
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        At this moment, the believer turns into a religious fanatic and must, for at least many, many years, pray to his god in a solitary confinement of 1,5x2,5 meters.

        and we have to feed him all together? that’s why I’m hogging pork, and it’s better to spend the money that would go to the grub of these believers on children, for now, give them a book and a TV and a gym, European standards and there should be something no less than there should be, and yet I am for missing such fanatics and without publicity
    4. Darkoff
      +7
      26 December 2015 08: 27
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
      Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..
      It is clear to Russia that this is absolutely not realistic, but as an illustration about the breed and origins of terrorism it is quite suitable ...

      Islam is not a cause, but a tool, a means of achieving completely non-religious goals. Historically, Islam today is the most convenient propaganda platform for terrorists. In the name of Christ, holy emperors, communism, democracy, etc. too much has been going on in this world. There would be no Islam, would come up with something else
    5. +1
      26 December 2015 08: 50
      Yes, there Christianity did not particularly take root.
      Japan, in a sense, is a completely pagan country.
      1. -1
        26 December 2015 13: 06
        Japan is pagan?!?! You don't just say that to the Japanese!
        1. Fox
          +4
          26 December 2015 16: 08
          Quote: Reduktor
          Japan is pagan?!?!

          yes. in relation to us is pagan.
          1. 0
            26 December 2015 17: 12
            To you?! Will the East give you?
          2. 0
            26 December 2015 20: 07
            Of course pagan.
            Shintoism.
            In China, it's a nightmare. There they flirt with the gods and joke.
            1. 0
              28 December 2015 08: 08
              Of course, paganism is a broad concept, but still it mainly applies to religions before Christianity and idolatry.
              It is not entirely correct to compare Eastern religions with Western religions and Islam, since there they preach primarily the WAY (Tao), HUMAN ACTIONS FOR HIS LIFE.
              Classical Western and Islam are purely authoritarian religions based on the fear of God and the fear of some kind of punishment.
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        3. 0
          26 December 2015 20: 02
          Do not show everyone their ignorance. the main religions in Japan are Buddhism and Shinto, and many Japanese people attend both temples. And Shinto is quite a pagan religion in our understanding, which is characterized by polytheism, worship of animals, natural objects and forces of nature, shamanism, faith in talismans, etc.
    6. 0
      26 December 2015 09: 10
      And also because it is an extremely closed country in which a huge level of organized crime is the Yakuza. And the Yakuza have been in a sort of alliance with the state for centuries, and make sure that nothing out of the ordinary happens in Japan, crush all crime under themselves. Japan in this regard, only by open data is an extremely unique country ...
    7. 0
      26 December 2015 09: 36
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      (the last case is Aum Shinrique)


      A little off topic, sorry. Why the last case? Aum-Senrike "lives and lives", flourishes. The scale of this organization is amazing, as is how many people (and of all ranks) it covers. I was in Japan, in a restaurant we got into a conversation with a Japanese (and he is a retired police officer), he told a lot of interesting things about this sect. The most interesting thing is that even the "almighty and terrible Yakuza" does not go into the interests of this sect. According to the Japanese, the sect very harshly punished the mafia in its time. And the interests of the sect cover almost all areas of business in Japan. It's like "Freemasons", only in Japanese and with a Japanese flavor. This sect includes from peasant to minister.
    8. +10
      26 December 2015 09: 42
      Firstly, Islam is not prohibited in Japan, since 1974 an officially registered federation of Muslims of Japan has been operating there.
      Secondly, in Japan there are about 40 mosques and several hundred Islamic prayer houses, the Tokyo mosque and the Kobe mosque are quite famous buildings
      Thirdly, since 1938, an Islamic printing house has been operating in Japan, the Koran has been translated into Japanese, and Japanese intelligence has been working with Islamic movements since the twenties, preparing to conquer Asia, without interfering with their meetings in Japan

      Today, many thousands of Muslims, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Afghans work in Japan, and no one bothers to practice their religion.

      And your conclusion about the origins of terrorism is absolutely wrong. An Islamic instrument, such as communism among the Red Brigades, nationalism with Bandera, ETA, the IRA, the tigers Tamil Ilam, the Indians who killed Indira and Rajiv Gandhi. The tigers Tamil Ilam defeated everything six years ago, while they were not Muslims at all, although suicide bombers were used in large numbers.
      There are no terrorist attacks in Japan just because there is no order for terrorist attacks. And the terrorist attacks are ordered not from Mecca, but because of the Big Puddle, this is hardly anyone in doubt
      1. cap
        -1
        26 December 2015 12: 09
        Quote: Pissarro

        And your conclusion about the origins of terrorism is absolutely wrong. An Islamic instrument, such as communism among the Red Brigades, nationalism with Bandera, ETA, the IRA, the tigers Tamil Ilam, the Indians who killed Indira and Rajiv Gandhi. The tigers Tamil Ilam defeated everything six years ago, while they were not Muslims at all, although suicide bombers were used in large numbers.
        There are no terrorist attacks in Japan just because there is no order for terrorist attacks. And the terrorist attacks are ordered not from Mecca, but because of the Big Puddle, this is hardly anyone in doubt

        + + + + hi
      2. +2
        26 December 2015 12: 12
        Quote: Pissarro
        Firstly, Islam is not prohibited in Japan, with


        1. A Muslim will never receive citizenship in Japan.
        Japan is the only country that does not grant Muslims citizenship.
        It’s impossible to argue: the law is the law.

        2. Muslims do not have the right to stay in Japan for a long time.

        3. Attempting to spread Islam is a criminal offense. You can go to jail for this for a long time.

        4. There are no schools in Japan that teach Arabic.

        5. The Koran is a forbidden book. You cannot import it. Only an "adapted" Japanese version is available.

        6. Ritual observance is permitted only in enclosed spaces. If ordinary Japanese see the rituals, the Muslim faces a prison.

        7. Speaking in Arabic is strictly prohibited.

        8. Japan has virtually no embassies in the Arab countries.

        9. Islam in Japan professes 0.00% of the Japanese.

        10. A Muslim who has come to work in Japan has the right to work only in a foreign company. That is, Japanese companies do not hire people professing Islam.

        11. Visas to Japan give Muslims very rarely. Even famous doctors, scientists professing Islam can not get a visa to Japan.

        12. Employment contracts often state that an employer has the right to dismiss an employee without explanation if he finds out about his Islamic faith

        13. Muslims are forbidden to rent houses in Japan, not to mention the purchase of property.

        14. Non-Japanese companies are involved in translating technical documentation from Japanese to Arab customers.

        That's so in fact .. to decide whether or not Islam is forbidden to readers in Japan hi
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        2. -1
          26 December 2015 20: 11
          Where did you get all this heresy?
          1.Nobody interferes with Japanese citizens becoming Muslims.
          2. Give at least one document that discriminates against Arabs or Muslims in relation, for example, to Christians.
          3. I saw enough Arabs in Japan and, imagine, they spoke their native language and no one forbade them.
          Finally a backfill question. What countries do you think are the main suppliers of oil to Japan? well you get the point. . .
        3. +2
          26 December 2015 20: 29
          I don’t know where you got all this information from. I was in Japan a month ago with Afghans and Pakistanis who have been living and working for years in Japanese companies. Many have Japanese wives. A familiar Kazakh also lives in Japan and is married to a Japanese woman, works in the Japanese company. I especially killed the bike about the fact that there are no Japanese embassies in Arab countries, I live in an Arab country and received a visa at such an embassy. laughing
          Moreover, there are Japanese embassies in almost all Arab countries, if you do not know, Japan has one of the main trading partners, which is impossible without high-level contacts.
          Pearl about the prohibition of the Arabic language in Japan is already quite ...... What language do you think the Arabs in Japan speak to each other? Allegedly forbidden Arabic is studied by students, for example, Tokyo University for the Study of Foreign Countries, along with Persian and Turkish. Yes, and it would be strange for a developed country not to learn a language spoken by half a billion people.

          According to the ban on renting houses is also nonsense, do you think Muslims live on the streets there?

          And don’t tell anyone about the adapted version of the Koran, distorting the text of the scriptures is forbidden, one incorrect letter and this is no longer the Koran. And the heresy in which ISIS believes and preaches.

          Where did you get these theses? They are all false to one source, an interesting source, who distributes it

          except for the first paragraph, they really do not give citizenship there. And not only to Muslims
        4. +2
          27 December 2015 04: 37
          I know where you got this nonsense. Remember the citizen of Japan, the operator of igil (banned in the Russian Federation), so he is a Muslim. He worked with igil and the Taliban. How so? Why didn’t Japan deprive him of citizenship and expel him from the country? And plus, tens of thousands of Muslims live in Japan, why are they not being deprived of citizenship? There are mosques. Why do not they destroy? One down (like el murid) wrote and everyone began to copy. But sometimes you have to think about it with your head. You at least read what you copied. Each item contradicts each other :)
    9. +2
      26 December 2015 09: 55
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Because Islam is forbidden - mosques,

      Tsarubitsy, Kaplan, ...... Here is Islam sideways? Japan has strong conservative parenting traditions, I think.
      1. 0
        26 December 2015 10: 06
        Islam was in both Russia and the USSR, but something extremists were not observed. All this came with perestroika when they allowed to preach to the mullahs who came from Saudi Arabia and from other countries of the Middle East, and sent them to study at their madrassas. After all, no one checked what they were taught there, and what the visitors were preaching, and so they missed the infection.
    10. 0
      26 December 2015 10: 11
      What nonsense. Islam in Japan has not been banned. Just historically in Japan there are few Muslims, as well as Jews.
    11. +2
      26 December 2015 13: 54
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Why is there no terrorism in Japan?

      And I have a counter question: why was there no terrorism in the USSR? There is no terrorism in the DPRK either. The answer is simple, no matter how sad it sounds: there is no terrorism where there is an ideology, a strong ideology.
      And we need to think about it seriously. We need ideology, maybe we need not quite ideology, something that most of us understand by this concept, but something more. Rather, we need an Idea, a Great Idea. After all, terrorism is also an idea. And only an idea can effectively fight against an idea.
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      2. -1
        26 December 2015 20: 22
        Terrorism is not an idea, but a TOOL to fight for your idea. As you remember, the terror was white. red and whatever. And believe me, from the fact that you try to impose ONE idea to everyone, there will be no less terrorists. On the contrary, I believe that the only effective way to fight terrorism, on the contrary, is to enable people to express and promote the whole diversity of their ideas, i.e. replace terror with really working legal instruments of socio-political struggle. Naturally within the law.
        1. 0
          27 December 2015 02: 28
          Quote: Nikolai K
          the only effective way to fight terrorism, on the contrary, is to enable people to express and promote the whole diversity of their ideas, i.e. replace terror with really working legal instruments of socio-political struggle.

          Strange, here in Geyrop it seems to be already implemented, but the terrorists are not being transferred. Moreover, terrorists with geyropeyskih passports born in this same Geyropa. So something is missing.
          By the way, why is fascism reviving in Geyrop? Just because fascism is not only people, but also ideas, and it is not so easy to kill ideas, they will surely find fertile ground. The same with terrorism, because the same Islamic terrorism did not arise yesterday, it is several hundred years old. And the terrorist (I’m not talking about mercenaries who quickly flee if there is a sufficiently high probability that their precious skin will receive several unplanned extra holes) is dangerous precisely because he is not afraid of death, he was well reasoned enough that after death he will fall into a paradise where he will be cared for by dozens of beautiful naked gurus. And all sorts of instruments of the socio-legal system will not help, just as the fascists did not help to legally come to power in Germany. Unless of course create new tools, a new socio-legal system. And on the basis of what to create it? Naturally, on the basis of a new Idea, an Idea more attractive than the ideas of jihad and the world caliphate. As long as there is no such Idea in the world, terrorism will live and prosper.
    12. +2
      26 December 2015 15: 08
      And if you open Wikipedia -
      In 1939, Islam was recognized as one of the current religions of Japan. By 2010, the total number of Muslims was estimated at 185 thousand people.
      Currently, in Japan there are 30-40 small mosques and about a hundred Muslim prayer rooms.
    13. +2
      26 December 2015 17: 04
      Because the Japanese are a single monolithic nation with its own culture.
    14. 0
      26 December 2015 22: 31
      Because there is its own bandit group Yakuza. And it certainly will not let anyone fight in controlled territories. And we had our own thieves in law in the USSR. They also had their own territories under control. And if there were problems, they solved common gangways them. And they guaranteed the authorities peace and quiet.
    15. +1
      26 December 2015 23: 14
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
      Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..
      It is clear to Russia that this is absolutely not realistic, but as an illustration about the breed and origins of terrorism it is quite suitable ...

      What kind of nonsense are you writing here?
      The Basque left-wing, nationalist organization of ETA separatists in Spain, the Colombian Combined Self-Defense Forces, the Salvadoran Black Shadow, and Mara Salvatrucha are not telling you anything.
      Who cares what faith they represent, terrorism has no nationality, much less faith.
      Bandits and murderers, terrorists - they are outside the nation, outside religion!
  2. +6
    26 December 2015 06: 20
    In principle, I did not find anything new in the article! Everything comes from the Narodnaya Voltsev and the search for truth. Remember what layers of society people came to Narodnaya Volya. Everything and everything comes from there. I have cited the Russian People’s Volunteers as an example, the same situation in many countries of the world.
    1. +13
      26 December 2015 06: 30
      Quote: Amurets
      Everything comes from the Narodnaya Volya and the search for truth.

      everything comes from upbringing, lack of ideology, lack of youth policy, young people, thrown into free swimming, become easy prey for recruiters. the dull unemployed tomorrow is not very attractive, but here it is exotic, money, power .. let fog into unstable brains: here is a new "jihadist" for you. so the fish rots from the head ...
      1. +4
        26 December 2015 07: 17
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ... everything comes from education, lack of ideology, lack of youth policy, youth ...

        Here is Putin about it: "The most important thesis is that education and upbringing cannot be limited to schools. Today, both education and upbringing takes place in schools, in cultural and sports organizations, and simply in the urban environment. This requires from local and regional authorities an unusual and the complex work of coordinating different areas in which our children develop "http://79.120.77.163/klin/page.php?id=463
      2. Boos
        +5
        26 December 2015 07: 23
        They expressed it sensibly ... About fish, by the way ... Putin recently "scolded" everyone, the fish, he said, should become available to the people. I'm waiting now, when it gets cheaper.)))
        1. +5
          26 December 2015 07: 35
          You have good fishing in the Urals. What to expect?
          1. +1
            26 December 2015 10: 47
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            You have good fishing in the Urals. What to expect?

            On the Volga the same good .... was. Due to uncontrolled catch and emissions of fish chemistry, almost no fish remained. I don’t think that it is different in the Urals.
            1. +3
              26 December 2015 13: 37
              I was there that year. Compared to our region, it’s a fairy tale.
              1. +1
                26 December 2015 15: 10
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                I was there that year. Compared to our region, it’s a fairy tale.

                The tale was about 15 years ago. Fisherman, you could live comfortably.
        2. Fox
          +3
          26 December 2015 16: 10
          Quote: Boos
          . I'm waiting now, when it gets cheaper.)))

          when the rest rises in price!)))))
      3. +4
        26 December 2015 08: 39
        Young people are brought up from childhood and the "quality" of the youth depends on how the child was raised at home and at school. In the family, in most cases, the child is at the mercy of the pro-American Internet and pro-Western TV, the school has withdrawn itself from education, and the Bologna system is bringing up spiritually illiterate dummies. As a result, we have what we have.
      4. +4
        26 December 2015 09: 59
        The presence of youth education in the USSR and ideology did not stop terrorists from hijacking planes and detonating bombs, because in any society there are elements suitable for recruiting into terrorists, including Soviet ones. As they say, if everyone is happy and satisfied, then this someone does not like it.
        Terrorism will be as long as there is an order for it from the customer and while the special services will work poorly, and you can always find thugs and brainwash them.
        1. +3
          26 December 2015 11: 01
          Quote: Pissarro
          The presence of youth education in the USSR and ideology did not prevent terrorists from hijacking planes and detonating bombs.

          There is a law of normal distribution according to which there will always be ~ 5% degenerates, ~ 90% "indifferent" and ~ 5% geniuses. The task of the state is to channel the energy of the silent majority towards creation, not towards destruction.

          1. 0
            26 December 2015 18: 05
            About geniuses - optimistic! wink
            1. +1
              26 December 2015 19: 43
              Quote: samarin1969
              About geniuses - optimistic!

              No skolichki. It’s just that not all geniuses lick the ass of the bosses and not all of their brilliant ideas are in demand.
      5. +5
        26 December 2015 10: 04
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        everything comes from upbringing, lack of ideology, lack of youth policy, youth thrown into free swimming,

        Good day, Andrey!
        About "abandoned". Parents do not see their children for more than half of the day. If you take away "how are you at school", "did your homework, did you eat?" parents talk with their children heart to heart for 15-20 minutes a day. At school, it is impossible by law to put pressure on a child even psychologically. And then - thorns, music, cartoons, movies. Only a fool thinks that cartoons and other "culture" live on their own.
  3. +7
    26 December 2015 06: 22
    I am deeply convinced that the fight against terrorism should be carried out with the upbringing of our younger generation and stricter measures of responsibility not only for performers / organizers, but also for all kinds of accomplices.
    And the low level of patriotism - "disentangling" the result of the 90s is ready. So you need to start with the family, with raising its social status - then your money will not be transferred to this scum of ISIS and run there for a "better life."
    1. +9
      26 December 2015 07: 03
      I am deeply convinced that the fight against terrorism must be carried out with education our the younger generation


      And how to educate him against the background of Chubais corporate events or Gazprom's advertising about "national property" with Miller's income? if a young guy can "earn" (??), (they give him so much at work) 17-20 thousand a month, a meter of housing from 40000, and still "need" to get a family, raise children.
      Maybe "well, it's a" bitter root vegetable "...
      "Better to be a falcon than a raven ...."
      ??????? what
      1. +11
        26 December 2015 07: 29
        Precisely, landing a red rat according to Article 275 of the Criminal Code would be a real patriotic education, and not an abstract verbiage about morality.
      2. 0
        27 December 2015 08: 04
        meter of housing from 40000


        Very optimistic price.
  4. +4
    26 December 2015 06: 29
    Quote: narval20
    Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
    Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..

    To the relatives of those killed at the hands of the soldiers of the RAF, IRA, ETA and other "Armed proletarian cells" Your words - "like a balm" to the soul, right? hi
    IRA and ETA haven't given up yet, by the way.
  5. +8
    26 December 2015 06: 30
    "How the FSB turned an athlete and an excellent student into a terrorist."

    Well, no matter how. Who, besides the KGB-FSB, can create villains in the country. Those who constantly run into this organization do not realize the simple truth - the protection of state security is a priority. And with the terrorists, their accomplices and those who, no matter for what reasons, are eager for terrorists, the conversation should be short. Regarding M. Shevchenko, we can say that you don’t understand the peasant, and on many issues (from Donbass to Syria). Now he stands with his chest in defense and support, then suddenly tomorrow begins to mix everything with dirt. It seems that he has separate opinions for different audiences.
    1. +1
      26 December 2015 07: 05
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Who besides the KGB-FSB can

      Who else is to blame for the liberal press .. SZKSiBT can not be PR ... tea is not the deputies
    2. +2
      26 December 2015 07: 38
      Yes this man, like a weather vane! He just had to flash in the media. And then they began to forget. And all his reasoning is complete crap.
  6. +1
    26 December 2015 06: 32
    Islamists simply use faith for their own purposes, it is beneficial for elite Muslims who make money on this, and some imams also use more and more people on earth for the sake of Islamization, those who come and discover the converted Korans about terrorist ones and do not understand the real faith of Islam. Many say and write everywhere less see the news; there’s one lie, completely nonsense teach children to watch the news, otherwise they read on the internet, all kinds of correspondence with terrorists and rapists, sellers of spice and all kinds of rubbish!
  7. +1
    26 December 2015 06: 32
    Of course, only very naive people or simpletons can believe in the intrigues of the FSB (although the Russian proverb in this regard is also known).


    Oh ...
    Is the ECHO OF MOSCOW party naive people .... no, just there the people gathered who argue the worse the Russian people and therefore RUSSIA the better.
    As for the recruiters, this problem did not arise today, but even in the first Chechen war ... then a lot of mercenaries from all over the world began to arrive in CHECHNYA, then the recruiters spread to the territory of RUSSIA ... the fight against them then was not conducted at all ... it is now they only realized it and made conclusions ... but better late than never, the process began.
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 08: 48
      That's just about the party on the site in the comments of "Echo of Moscow" ... Have you often met smart people from among the echoes there? laughing
  8. 0
    26 December 2015 06: 33
    And what kind of money does the terrorists receive abroad? You just need to "tightly" block and prevent money transfers to the belligerent countries. Otherwise, under the guise of a sick aunt or grandmother, loot goes to igil or nusra ...
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 10: 05
      this will not help. Money can be transferred to Europe, America, the Emirates, Turkey, and from there it will go where it is necessary. At one stage, such schemes do not work, there are always two or three transshipment points. The purpose of payment to "grandmother in ISIS" and direct transfer in Raqqa or Mosul will not pass at the initial stage. laughing
  9. +3
    26 December 2015 07: 01
    These are more often inspired people, loyal to the imposed beliefs. The most important terrorists remain "behind the scenes." They are like puppeteers pulling one rope or another: an idea, a religion. Terrorism is the political tool of these puppeteers.
    1. +4
      26 December 2015 07: 33
      I agree.

      Protocol 7 (which is fake naturally) states: “In order to prove to the world the enslavement of European governments, we will show on one of them our power through violence and the reign of terror.”

      "... to summarize our system of curbing the goyim
      governments in Europe, we will show one of them their strength by assassination,
      that is, terror, and to all, if we allow their rebellion against us, we
      we will answer with American, or Chinese, or Japanese cannons. "
      Protocols http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/AE/protokoly.txt_with-big-pictures.html

      Aaron Russo on the plans of the world government: terrorism and chipization
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrB66XOLas8
  10. +5
    26 December 2015 07: 04
    Unfortunately adequate less and less. Young people are taught by tolerasts and liberalists in the spirit of same-sex love and the worship of McDonols with the dollar. Here from a prestigious university in Moscow, one on television said such that Ivan the Terrible would have boiled it in boiling water and would have been right. Although the king himself was relatively meek and for the entire reign he killed an order of magnitude less than the European rulers of those times.
  11. +7
    26 December 2015 07: 08
    They go to satisfy their ambitions. Do not work, BUT to get this money and go unpunished, who will touch the fighter for Vera. After all, there are many terrorists from the prosperous regions of our ball. I would like to add one point - Malaysia or the Philippines, many Muslims, a high level of poverty. It seemed that there he was, another center. And the trick is that they DO NOT have OIL.
    1. +12
      26 December 2015 07: 26
      Not just ambition. It is also a form of protest against, from their point of view, injustice ... Now even we have a clan society. If the mother or father gene. director or powerful, then according to the bearded anecdote "Dad, will I be a colonel? Yes, sonny. And a general? No, a general has his own son." So, along with the marginals, normal guys who were not born in the right family and who have a heightened sense of justice go to the radicals ... And there are no statistics, but for some reason it seems to me that the marginals are in the minority. Since no one has yet succeeded in creating a well-coordinated combat-ready unit from dullards. God grant that I was wrong. The increasing number of them says that the problem will only grow. And do not forget the ideology .. What can the same Russia oppose? The ideology of money, which many have been obsessed with since the 90s? Or as gayrope - values ​​blue and pink? And the radicals make it possible to see the light at the end of the tunnel, albeit in the form of paradise hourias. hi
  12. +6
    26 December 2015 07: 26
    It seems to me that they get into terrorism in three ways.
    1) Professional psychological treatment by a specially trained person. A specialist will almost always fool an amateur.
    2) Id ... nihilism, characteristic of the intelligentsia, among which it has always been believed that opposition to power is the duty of any "decent person".
    3) A banal game of hormones, when young people, under their influence, begin to strive to deny everything that exists "romance and exploits", in the presence of free time. This is how "pale youths with a burning gaze" appear, who were all students.
    The rest is particular and a combination of these three.
    1. +3
      26 December 2015 09: 18
      Quote: Dart2027
      It seems to me that they get into terrorism in three ways.

      Well, we raised a young man (girl), gave him (her) the right education, instilled a fairly high level of culture (based on high samples of world works of art, correct historical examples and te de ...), spiritually educated - in true faith ( any!) - and release it (ёё) into life ... Pre-gouged out eyes and cut off (or shutting up forever) ears, because In this life and in this society, a well-educated young man (girl) with the right civilian (humanitarian!) life position will become a terrorist - inevitably! Because he will crave justice - social, material ... any kind; which in our society is not, and - I suspect - there is none, and never has been, and never will be ...
      ... This is what is called an "idealist" in common parlance ...
      ... And a realist will go to work in Gazprom or as a government official ... to carry out "financial operations" for personal enrichment with banknotes skillfully printed on good paper ... to take "gifts" from grateful citizens - rewards for efficiency and agility .. .In a word - to rob others, increasing the amount of injustice on the planet, adding nuclear fuel to the hellish bonba ... which sooner or later will be blown up by "ardent vyunosh with a burning gaze" (a girl with a suicide belt) ...
      ---
      there is no way out! Netuti of his exit ... Unless - to accomplish the impossible - to abandon the pernicious path of development on which we all stand! Who is the first - will refuse from gold toilets, silver yachts, super-fast aircraft, luxury villas ... and so on? ...
      1. +1
        26 December 2015 09: 33
        Quote: vlad-58
        Well, we raised a young man (girl), gave him (her)

        Any person from childhood will be faced with the manifestation of the realities of life, and there is really no ideal society anywhere.
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          26 December 2015 20: 48
          You, apparently, forgot how you yourself were young. And I remember how I was an idealist and a radical, and now my son, perhaps the same. Because it is a property of youth, because they are not born conservatives, they become. And all this energy of youth must be given a positive source of output, well, they do not want to believe that the state of crooks and thieves is the best that they can have. And if you don’t give it, then someone will reconcile, and someone will look for radical methods., Right?
  13. 0
    26 December 2015 07: 33
    If my memory serves me right, entot Shevchenko some time ago, along with other characters, actively promoted a whole program of re-education of militants in our south. Nobody knows how it goes then?
  14. +5
    26 December 2015 07: 34
    Youth always strives for extremes, as a result, today's youth falls into extremism, nowhere else.
    Gagarin's generation dreamed of space. The youth went to conquer Siberia. The word is what "conquerors", romance.
    And today, how to become a conqueror? Yes, just become a terrorist. Victims, blood of innocent people? Yes, this is nothing, associated costs. How have today's mega-consumers become successful? Yes, taking away public and personal property, neglecting the accompanying victims. So, that neglect of people's lives hails from there, from the 90s.
    What should be done? Tidy up the head.
    There must be a conformity of social order with universal values.
  15. +5
    26 December 2015 08: 00
    All "hemorrhoids" in complexes that are from childhood. They didn’t love one ... They didn’t want to listen to the third one ... Then such people grow up with the motto "They will know about me! They will talk about me!" I quote the parrot Kesha from everyone's favorite cartoon. People grow up with complexes who are the EXECUTIONER, and who are the VICTIMS. And some with the RESCUE complex, which is also not very good. And each of them has its own scale of universal values ​​... So they begin to change the world and life "for the better" ... And what is being done with good intentions? Right! The road to hell is being paved.
  16. +2
    26 December 2015 08: 09
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    Quote: midivan
    heard in England struggled with such a method of stitching corpses in pork skins
    - In order not to reach such drastic measures, you need to educate children at home. Talk about your ancestry, about the Motherland, about patriotism, about the fact that there are all kinds of evil spirits that grew up in reverence for the West and love for the golden Mamon. And how to resist it. And only then you can be sure that your child will not be seduced by an ornate verbiage. And in our country, many "parents", apart from mats, cannot connect two words, and in schools, although there are still high-quality teachers, a lot of random dullness has appeared. But what can I say, judging by the speeches of some of the recent HSE teachers, you think that these guys hate Russia no less than the strategists from the Pentagon.

    I agree with the commentary. However, it becomes difficult to explain and educate when in real life everything is different. What a bit of Chubais said something awkward and what? there is normal! A stream of information flows on the network and from the TV screen, which is difficult for an adult to filter, and children do not orientate at all! One house is worth something! So so far there is no common (ideological) directive from the state "where are we going and what are we building, what do we want to achieve? ", there will be no sense. And to say that there should not be a common goal for the entire civil society is not correct.
  17. 0
    26 December 2015 08: 14
    no, everything is clear here, a young, smart, not painted beauty (and, accordingly, the guys do not go around in a crowd), of course, a long real time is inadequate, but it’s worth chasing others away.

    but Maximleonardych, IMHO, something completely, our Orthodox Jehadist should be checked for mental health and sent either to treatment or to rest.
  18. +2
    26 December 2015 08: 16
    Internal emptiness leads to such actions of people. Now the world is designed in such a way that, with an excess of services and goods, everyone has forgotten about moral education. Previously, a lot of resources were devoted to morality in the USSR. And of course, this is not a panacea, but the percentage of outcasts was completely different. but Barbara thinks there was an emptiness inside, which some small thug filled with his fables about a white bull. And for a young girl it’s not very difficult to confuse her head.
    1. +3
      26 December 2015 08: 23
      And I'm talking about the same thing. In the USSR, the foundations of a just and ideal society were clearly spelled out, and most of the citizens strove for this. Everything was clear and clear.
      1. +3
        26 December 2015 10: 19
        at the same time, the society was protected from terrorism not by the prescribed principles of a just society, but by the work of the KGB of the USSR. Because you can abandon a terrorist and from behind a hill, and in the environment of national minorities, or among dissidents, even in the USSR there were many of these environments with which the foreign intelligence service
  19. +2
    26 December 2015 08: 34
    For thirty years in a row, for the sake of the West, they corrupted the population as much as they could, debilitated, stuffed TV with an abomination and a liberal foul, erasing the line between good and evil. They completely stopped the social elevators and plunged the camp into corruption.
    And what else do the authorities want after this criminal activity of population degradation?

    To get started, remove, at least from TV, any muck and porn (including Svanidze and the like), stop lying without a break, give hope and an idea, and then no one will break into terrorists.

    Varya and Tolik are a direct result of the actions of our government! There can be no doubt about that!
  20. +1
    26 December 2015 08: 45
    For some reason, in the USSR, the church (Christian, Islamic, etc.) did not play a special role in the upbringing of society. But morality, education, social relationships, etc. were orders of magnitude higher than in the Republic of Ingushetia and present-day Russia.
    Religion cannot manage an educated society.
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 09: 13
      Because at that time, everything that we saw and heard was riddled with moral content. A school, a TV with 3 channels, newspapers, children's camps, theaters and much more. We were brought up with the concepts of what is good and what is bad. And we rejoiced stick in hand instead of a beautiful machine gun. And now there is complete emptiness, except for an abundance of bad information and unnecessary goods. And as a result, empty mind. There is a fact: the better a person lives, the worse he becomes. But it is not possible to return to the Middle Ages, but it’s quite possible to turn the media and education in kindergartens, schools, universities!
      1. 0
        26 December 2015 09: 48
        Can. Normal secular education, as it was in the USSR.
        1. +6
          26 December 2015 10: 17
          You will probably be surprised. So, a normal Soviet general (and not an "infantry") -Dudayev. He was not raised in Saudi Arabia.
          1. +3
            26 December 2015 10: 31
            Shamil Basayev was not raised in Saudi Arabia either, but on the basis of the 345th airborne regiment for commanding a detachment of volunteers in Abkhazia, according to Ruslan Aushev and Alexander Lebed
    2. 0
      26 December 2015 10: 47
      Yes, because in the USSR, for violating every commandment, there was an article of the Criminal Code. Therefore, morality was kept at the state level. All concessions were equal and far from state administration.
  21. +1
    26 December 2015 09: 03
    The worst thing is that there are rods in Daesh from all over the world - not the poor and disadvantaged, but as a rule, quite "rich Buratins". And even worse is that some of them imagine themselves to be almost Che.
    Ernesto Guevara (bright and eternal memory to him) such would be shot.
  22. +4
    26 December 2015 09: 18
    You should not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if he is not there. Among people at all times there are individuals with a "dislocation" of the brain, regardless of the love of others, the level of education, the presence of an official state ideology (which is what, and in the USSR this was enough). I am glad that there are fewer such exceptions among people who really work and have their own families than among those who are idle and are in bliss and bliss. Man is a social being and outside of society he turns into a likeness of Mowgli. People's behavior is shaped by public opinion. If it allows permissiveness under the guise of some kind of tolerance, puts up with parasitism, with crimes, with immorality, I think the result is clear. On the contrary, a society that stands on the inviolability of compliance with the rule of law, without exceptions in favor of some of its members, taking into account their status, protecting people regardless of their position and taking, first of all, their personal usefulness for society, and not their parents as the basis for assessing, then the number of search lovers adventure and adrenaline rush will be reduced. But alas! will not disappear into the prose of life. Dialectics!!! Namely, the real, and not ostentatious, inevitability of punishment for antisocial manifestations will make not everyone, but some, think.
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 09: 35
      Oracle You wrote very beautifully.
      The inevitability of punishment - so it is now in action. Our "stupid" (according to the Western media) bombs do not distinguish between targets that romantically or ideologically cut off heads. Fugasu is all the same. It is inevitability.
      With Raduyev, a dead cock, it was the same inevitability.
      Adrenaline is different. And this is not disgusting either.
  23. +5
    26 December 2015 09: 20
    I am sure that one who has read the Qur'an at least once in his life will never come under the banner of the Islamic State or other such evil spirits. hi
    I emphasize - READ. Himself. And I didn't listen to stories about how to read it. And about how to "correctly" understand what the Prophet said.
    The Qur'an is written by God. All his interpretations are from the Iblis.
    Sincerely.
    1. +1
      26 December 2015 10: 46
      I totally agree. The truth is borne by the original source of religion.
      I did not read the Qur'an, but I read the Gospel. The first impression is a set of parables, i.e. understanding did not happen. Understanding occurred later, as it gradually, involuntarily.
      God is the highest mind, which contains information about the preservation and continuation of intelligent life. A man is given to perceive this information with his mind and not only. In addition to consciousness, the human body perceives, so a person grows out of a cell. In a conscious life, a person must be rational, i.e. his intentions, deeds, everything should be for the good of life: both his own and those whom he is obligated to take care of, and any living person. In the Gospel, people are disciples of God, and sermons are slaves. Feel the difference between the student and the slave: in both cases, the person has a subordinate position, but the student is striving for knowledge, improving, i.e. approaching the teacher, and the slave is a disenfranchised creature that the owner can kill at any time or give, sell. That is why there is a parable condemning churchmen.
      As far as Islam is concerned, so many religious dogmas are interpreted by preachers that instead of religious morality, people become a murder weapon.
  24. 0
    26 December 2015 09: 43
    why do people radicalize?
    Yes, because they see how swindlers and thieves burst with fat, and the common people drag out a beggarly existence, and the phrase "a thief should be in prison" falls under the article "calls for a violent overthrow of the government")))
    1. -4
      26 December 2015 10: 11
      Who are these modern terrorists? These are, as a rule, worthless people who cannot learn anyone, who cannot occupy any worthy place in life, they were thoughtlessly born in an immeasurable amount by their Muslim mothers in the hope that Allah would give them everything. Blowing up a world in which there is no worthy place for them is the only opportunity for them to prove their own significance. Where you can’t create anything, you have to destroy it, that’s all. In the furnace of war, all of them, there they belong.
    2. +2
      26 December 2015 10: 35
      Do you think that Varvara Karaulov and Anatoly Zemlyanka were concerned about the fate of a simple beggarly people? laughing
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  26. +6
    26 December 2015 10: 22
    spiritual vacuum into which any ideas could successfully infiltrate: from Muslim fanaticism to exotic religions


    This is the main reason for the spread of terrorism.
    Man needs the goal of his existence. Consumption is not a goal, but a means of subsistence.
    The goal of existence, many put the achievement of a kind of "justice".
    But the "recipes" for achieving this justice are different. For some it is a "society of equal opportunities", for some it is a "world communist republic of labor", and for some it is a "world caliphate."
    Terrorism is not a goal, but a means to an end.

    Propaganda of eternal, humanitarian values ​​for today is probably easier to conduct precisely from the position of the church.

    That's right, what's "easier". And it is even easier to "carry on propaganda (of any" values ​​") with the help of terror, which we observe.
    1. +3
      26 December 2015 10: 30
      Guevara let go of prisoners of war. These-cut the heads of civilians.
      The romance of the revolution?
      Yes, humanitarian values ​​are really not enough ...
  27. +1
    26 December 2015 10: 48
    [
    Quote: Pissarro
    Do you think that Varvara Karaulov and Anatoly Zemlyanka were concerned about the fate of a simple beggarly people?

    Especially I went to the trash cans. Surprise, but the poor people there did not meet. In general, these "nischie" - zadolbali put their foreign cars. laughing Neither pass nor drive.
    Oh, grief, fierce, goryachko ... Ai-ah, poverty overcame the Russian girl ..... Poverty from their poverty put their poor machines on the lawn, and our power is anti-national, vile and dirty, they (abominable such mother-like) well, they will not be allowed to crush the children of other religions ....
    Flood? Flood. But it got sick.
  28. +2
    26 December 2015 11: 05
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Why is there no terrorism in Japan? (the last case is Aum Shinrique)
    Because Islam is banned there - mosques, meetings, preaching ..
    It is clear to Russia that this is absolutely not realistic, but as an illustration about the breed and origins of terrorism it is quite suitable ...

    Is it a matter of Islam? Is the same Aum Shinrique also Muslim? Or are the Japanese, atrocities in China and other countries cleaner than any terrorist, also Muslims? Something almost inaudible about the attacks in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait? The question is how is it presented when Jews, Americans, French, British bomb peaceful cities, kill thousands of innocent people - women, children, overthrow unwanted governments - this is democracy, not terrorism. Christian terrorism (western) that gave birth to Hitler, Mussolini, modern America, France - the thing is much worse.
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  31. +1
    26 December 2015 11: 19
    Quote: Oleg Nikiforov
    ... Propaganda of eternal, humanitarian values ​​for today, probably, is easier to conduct precisely from the position of the church ...

    Could you announce the list of these values, except those that God through the mouth of Moses gave to the Jews. God gave them to them, not to us.
  32. +1
    26 December 2015 11: 24
    Quote: Boris55
    Could you announce the list of these values, except those that God through the mouth of Moses gave to the Jews. God gave them to them, not to us.

    And let me partially announce?
    Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    In my opinion, it’s quite enough. hi
    1. -1
      26 December 2015 11: 30
      Quote: tanit
      Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

      Do you propose closing schools, cutting electricity and burning everything that is written and printed? wassat
      Spirituality does not grow from scratch, it is based on the deeds and actions of ancestors.

  33. +1
    26 December 2015 11: 45
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: tanit
    Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    Do you propose closing schools, cutting electricity and burning everything that is written and printed? wassat
    Spirituality does not grow from scratch, it is based on the deeds and actions of ancestors.


    I propose: land - to peasants, factories - to workers.
    I propose - still prohibit carrying pseudo-historical nonsense.
    1. +4
      26 December 2015 11: 55
      Quote: tanit
      I propose: land - to peasants, factories - to workers.
      I propose - still prohibit carrying pseudo-historical nonsense.

      Land - to the peasants, factories - to the workers. Good, but a slogan. Nonche was given peasants land of ten hectares, and how to cultivate it? Shovel? When to plant, and when to fertilize? And loans at 20%? All this is deceit and deceit. But blessed and poor in spirit believe in it. laughing



      By and large, the whole story is nonsense. The only question is in whose interests and how it is presented.
  34. 0
    26 December 2015 12: 09
    Everything is simple. Take the commandant Che for the basis. Add your nonsense.
    At the exit are creatures that explode people.
    Che-let go of prisoners, even- after Tanya was killed.
    Guevara and these scum - this is scum and Guevara.
    It infuriates me - they use the image of Che (I won’t tell about ways of dealing with this).
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 12: 17
      Quote: tanit
      (I won’t tell you about ways to combat this)

      But in vain. The topic seems to be just about this.
      First thought, then action. As we think, we are doing so. How do we live.
      We change the thoughts of others - we change the life around us.
  35. +1
    26 December 2015 12: 21
    Whenever my neighbor begins to hint to me that in our country there is more to come .... I - call the police ...
    The poor country. wassat
    Space is not enough to park.
  36. cap
    0
    26 December 2015 12: 40
    All doubts are from ignorance. Everything is said very clearly.
    It reads:
    Then Jesus, having released the people, entered the house. And, having approached Him, His disciples said: Explain to us the parable of the tares in the field.
    But he answered them: he that sows the good seed is the Son of man;
    the field is the world; the good seed are the sons of the kingdom, and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
    the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels.
    Therefore, as tares are collected and burned with fire, so it will be at the end of this age:
    the Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather all his temptations from the kingdom and doing lawlessness,
    and plunge them into the fiery furnace; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth;
    then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who has ears to hear, let him hear!
    (St. Matthew's Gospel 13: 9-43)
    hi
    1. 0
      26 December 2015 12: 47
      Quote: cap
      (St. Matthew 13: 9-43) hi

      And also a bunch not from Matthew. Hmm ... and from Judah the same gospel was. laughing
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        0
        26 December 2015 14: 34
        Are you talking about Judas who hanged himself?
        Did you write the gospel in the afterlife?
        Do not rack your brains. At the Last Supper there were two Jude.
        But this is not for you to write hi .
  37. +7
    26 December 2015 12: 58
    But I really didn’t like the article. Many clever words and not a word of truth. What are political freedoms at 18? Who at this age is interested in? Rave. Remember yourself young, we were all revolutionaries and wished to remake the world as we understood it with our youthful mind, which was far from wisdom. There is nowhere to go, all children should be at least a little revolutionaries, this is the dialectic of the development of society. Those. the desire for revolutionary changes, no matter what sense, of a private or universal scale, MAY push a certain part onto the path of extremism, again of any nature - a gang of gopniks, steal in a store, enlist in the French Legion, the main action. In the USA, it seems to me that this is quite clearly manifested in the constant shootings by schoolchildren of their classmates and teachers. Some of the “revolutionaries” are afraid of punishment, some are passive, again for the time being, let them jump, kill with impunity and shout a crowd of primitive speech - we get a massive influx of passive extremists. Some extremists will cut their veins. It will always be. And the line, as it were, is not drawn. We call the bearded Wahhabis terrorists cutting their heads at the camera. And the youngsters who beat the classmate with bits and shoot it on the phone, are they NOT terrorists? Is an American student massacred at school, NOT a terrorist? What is the difference? In small nuances? Let's call a spade a spade. Extremism that kills people - terrorism. Islamic terrorism is only one of the varieties.

    Now I’ll try to present my version about the struggle with active young revolutionaries. So that their revolutionary orientation does not grow into extremism, and even more so terrorism. Then one of the commentators touched on the topic of terrorism in Japan, not owning the topic at all. I will not rassusolit long, but similar to Western or Middle Eastern terrorism in Japan, and others like her, and in China, Korea, will not, as long as they continue to have the model of spiritual education that they have today. In a nutshell, this is the priority of the public over the personal. The state ponad u, so to speak. In the West, the personal prevails over the public. We are in the middle, with a roll to the east. In Russia, which we lost, this roll was much more significant, we didn’t spare our stomach for Mother Russia, and then the women-bankers spent lard greens in order to draw the majority to their side on a subconscious level. (The most annoying thing was that the KGB knew about this program, but it didn’t take nichrome, it was underestimated). The result - in bad times, everyone wanted a VCR, viscar and Coca-Cola, not a power. Innocent for the uninitiated impact on the minds led to disaster.
  38. +7
    26 December 2015 12: 59
    Continued:

    The methods of combating extremism are, as it were, not very complex, given the fact that only percentages of young revolutionaries can become really active. Starting with the little things and mixed with the main ones.

    Legal education. Wow, how not enough. Never enough. Legal lawlessness in the country just plays the opposite role - anti-legal education. Here they were right, landing a redhead +100500 points, some indicative flogging does not count. Sorry, this item has not yet passed.

    The education of real patriotism since childhood. What dill is doing now. We laugh, and in fact they were given the model by those who issued the destructive model for the USSR. And this model works. They grow up with the “Ukraine ponad truncated” hollowed into the brain, and we? With faith in the HSP? Who seriously studied this program made conclusions? Maybe they did, but were afraid of the consequences? Maybe the emergence of real patriotism in New Russia scared the connoisseurs so much that they began to mow down the leaders? It seems like that. Patriotic capitalists are the first enemy. This means that this item will not work either.

    To direct energy into a creative channel. It requires money and work. Who will give the money? Rottenberg? I And this paragraph does not seem to work.
    And this can be done for a long time, but the conclusion will always be the same: “Right” measures in the existing model of predatory capitalism are impossible. And this means only one thing, youth extremism will grow. Unfortunately. They will tighten the nuts, but this is a dead poultice.
  39. +1
    26 December 2015 13: 06
    Quote: tanit
    Quote: Boris55
    Could you announce the list of these values, except those that God through the mouth of Moses gave to the Jews. God gave them to them, not to us.

    And let me partially announce?
    Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    In my opinion, it’s quite enough. hi

    "So yes," Moses passed on the ten commandments to the Jews, but the apostles of Christ commanded them to everyone, regardless of nationality (there is neither a Hellenic nor a Jew). The moral code of the builder of communism also relies heavily on these commandments.

    And if you literally move away from them, then what is it that is bad for you: Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood?
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      26 December 2015 13: 42
      Quote: Freeman
      And if you literally move away from them, then what is it that is bad for you: Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood?

      Decembrists advocated for the freedom of serfs, but they do not need freedom without land.
      Equality between those who create and those who only consume will never be.
      The fraternity between the winner and the vanquished will never be.

      God gave people WILL. Freedom, equality, fraternity - a beautiful screen that hides from us the gift of God - WILL.

      So with the commandments ... says do not kill, and then kill all who are not with you. Says do not steal, and right there everything is yours, ... etc ... The apostles lie. They distort the teachings of Christ for their sake. Have you seen the most important book - the revelations of Christ? Me not.
      1. cap
        +1
        26 December 2015 14: 47
        Quote: Boris55
        . The apostles lie. They distort the teachings of Christ for their sake. Have you seen the most important book - the revelations of Christ? Me not.

        It is strange that you read the Gospel and did not find revelation in them.
        Read all the same .. or just .. "lie".
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          26 December 2015 15: 20
          Quote: cap
          It is strange that you read the Gospel and did not find revelation in them.
          Read all the same .. or just .. "lie".

          They do not just lie, but form double standards.

          5 commandment: “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged on the land which the Lord your God gives you” (Exodus 20: 12).
          "If your relatives urge you to worship other gods ... then kill them ... stone them to death" (Deuteronomy 13: 6-10).
          6 commandment: “Do Not Kill” (Exodus 20: 13).
          "But in the cities of these nations, which the Lord your God gives you for possession, do not leave a single soul alive ... as the Lord your God commanded you" (Deuteronomy 20: 16-17).
          "... do not be afraid of the people of this land; for they will go to us to be devoured" (Numbers 14: 9).

          7 commandment: “Do not commit adultery” (Exodus 20: 14).
          "... but all the female children who have not known the male bed, keep alive for yourself" (Numbers 31: 17-18).

          All the commandments do not fit, but believe me - there it is the same.

          Can you give a link to the revelations of Jesus? Hardly. They do not exist, and therefore any nonsense can be carried on his behalf. "When did the evangelists live?" : http: //79.120.77.163/klin/page.php? id = 364

          Religions are not able to unite people - not for this they have been introduced into our life.
          1. cap
            +1
            26 December 2015 17: 31
            Quote: Boris55
            Religions are not able to unite people - not for this they have been introduced into our life.

            On the contrary, it has almost been destroyed.
            What then was Christianity for humanity 2015 years from the birth of Christ?
            What is celebrating that part of the world that calls itself Christians?
            Will you advise me what to believe "deceived".
            Suggest your alternative. Currently, there are 2,18 billion Christians in the world - almost a third of the world's population.
            Become the Messiah and this is your flock hi .
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              26 December 2015 17: 42
              Quote: cap
              Will you advise me what to believe "deceived". Suggest your alternative.

              Are you kidding? laughing
              But seriously. There is an alternative Biblical concept - this is the Concept of Public Security (BER). You can easily find information about her on the Internet.

              Quote: cap
              What then was Christianity for humanity 2015 years from the birth of Christ?

              It was a sect - a sect and left.

              "Signs of a sect, defined in accordance with the Concept of Public Safety (COB):

              1. The presence of esoteric and exoteric teachings, which in Russian means: in a sect there is always a teaching for the crowd and a teaching for the elite - dedicated hierarchs.
              2. The presence of certain dogmas of the doctrine, which are not subject to discussion and should be accepted by adherents of the doctrine as true without any doubt or reasoning.
              3. The presence of a ritual that accompanies any meeting of representatives of the sect and is actually a means of zombifying their psyche.
              4. The existence of an arbitrarily branched hierarchy, which is categorically forbidden to enter into a dispute with the main dogmas of the sect’s teachings.
              5. Since the doctrine of the sect is based on dogmas that are not subject to discussion, then there is and cannot be a place in it for the formation of a personal culture of mastering new knowledge (there is no method of mastering) and a meaningful attitude to Life according to conscience. "

              Quote: cap
              Become the Messiah and this is your flock

              The task of BER is not to lead the herd, but to give everyone the fullness of knowledge, the methodology of mastering new knowledge, and then the shepherds (messiah) will not be needed.
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                29 December 2015 18: 27
                Quote: Boris55
                Quote: cap
                What then was Christianity for humanity 2015 years from the birth of Christ?
                It was a sect - a sect and left.

                "Signs of a sect, defined in accordance with the Concept of Public Safety (COB):

                1. The presence of esoteric and exoteric teachings, which in Russian means: in a sect there is always a teaching for the crowd and a teaching for the elite - dedicated hierarchs.
                2. The presence of certain dogmas of the doctrine, which are not subject to discussion and should be accepted by adherents of the doctrine as true without any doubt or reasoning.
                3. The presence of a ritual that accompanies any meeting of representatives of the sect and is actually a means of zombifying their psyche.
                4. The existence of an arbitrarily branched hierarchy, which is categorically forbidden to enter into a dispute with the main dogmas of the sect’s teachings.
                5. Since the doctrine of the sect is based on dogmas that are not subject to discussion, then there is and cannot be a place in it for the formation of a personal culture of mastering new knowledge (there is no method of mastering) and a meaningful attitude to Life according to conscience. "


                1. untruth - doctrine generally available
                3. specify the mechanism of zombies
                4. not prohibited
          2. 0
            29 December 2015 18: 34
            What did you, my friend, pull such long quotes? You would write right after the words "father and mother" - "stone it", so it is more effective wink
      2. +2
        26 December 2015 20: 34
        None of the Decembrists, being landowners, did not let their serfs free.
        You can create by consuming.
        Merkel and Obama kiss on the gums. What is not the brotherhood between the conquered and the victor?
        And what does the sermon have to do with it?
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          27 December 2015 07: 24
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          None of the Decembrists, being landowners, did not let their serfs free.
          You can create by consuming.
          Merkel and Obama kiss on the gums. What is not the brotherhood between the conquered and the victor?
          And what does the sermon have to do with it?

          Read carefully:
          Where did I write that the Decembrists released their serfs?
          What did the Decembrists demand? Among other things, abolish serfdom and give free (freedom) to the peasants while taking away their land and transferring it to "their" landowners. Let me remind you that with the arrival of the Romanov dynasty at the beginning of the 16th century, the peasants together with their they secured land (from here the term serfs) to the owners who later became landowners.

          Read carefully:
          "Equality between those who create and those who only consumes - will not be when ".

          About Merkel and Obama. When a concubine pleases her master, this does not mean that she adores him.

          Read carefully:
          I am about the commandments; you are about the sermons.
  40. +2
    26 December 2015 15: 25
    The point is in the sophistication of the intellectual, in his striving to put himself in not and above the majority. This also manifests itself in the pursuit of fashion, going to "closed" clubs, in the absolute belief in his rightness and the rightness of the idea imposed on him, but which will allow him to "stand out" from society. Tell such a person - it is fashionable to be a fascist, he will be, it will be fashionable to be gay - it will be, terrorists for "creating" a new "perfect" society - will be a terrorist. Any idea can be put into his head, it is empty, despite the education received. All this from the lack of elementary culture and neglect of other people and their thoughts and concerns.
  41. +3
    26 December 2015 16: 06
    IMHO: Varvara K. was drawn to Syria not by a burning desire to become a terrorist, but by the instinct of reproduction. The faculty is female. someone was already lucky - married, wedding, family conversations, someone - a boyfriend. And here everything is in order in all respects (smart, healthy, not lame, not oblique), but the most desired is not and is not expected - in the store you can’t buy it, you can’t pick it up on the street, life is monotonous: study - at home, girlish gatherings. And here is almost a dream come true: a husband who is ready to be next to both in grief and joy (not just because they corresponded a couple of years). She is for herself a Decembrist who despised comfort and Moscow, and followed the chosen one, not only to Siberia, but to the east. Nothing more. Just a fool.
    In the same way as normal Komsomol activists become victims (before that they were not noticed in addictions to faith), living with frank scum who drink, beat. "But all mine"
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      29 December 2015 18: 18
      one thing is not clear - why go so far, this here in bulk
  42. +2
    26 December 2015 18: 25
    "From the point of view of the state, attention is drawn to the state program of patriotic education of Russians until 2020, which caused a lot of comments in the media ..." - a reason for irony, no more.

    They would not infringe on me and my family:
    1) a ban on uncontrolled visits to Egypt, Turkey, and other "promised lands";
    2) total control of new arrivals in the settlements of the Russian Federation;
    3) total passport control of the Russian Federation;
    4) total control over the income of nowhere unemployed people.
    5) drug control of all "evening" and "night" clubs.
  43. 0
    26 December 2015 22: 05
    The point is not in the Quran, not in the Bible, not in the Torah, not in Che. The fact is that under any of the Great Books, under any beautiful idea - there will be scumbags-villains
  44. +2
    27 December 2015 04: 25
    A retired FSB told me one story. As we stood smoking with him, suddenly a guy of Caucasian appearance approaches him, they greeted, smiled, you could even say in a friendly way. Then when this guy left, he says, you saw this guy, and in Chechnya we were on opposite sides of the barricades. Now, he works, foreman, there is a family of children. Do you know why he went to war? Because the brainwashed and because of the socio-economic situation. When there is no work in the republics, no money, brainwashing houses (apartments) are opened. Hiding behind Islam (which has nothing to do with it) they give them money and weapons, they make them go to work out. Hence the conclusion that if people take up work and ensure the normal functioning of schools, hospitals, etc., then the people will not be up to terrorism. But there are also those who don’t want to work, but want a lot of money, now they go to terrorism, just as there are brainwashing houses. Today one will be demolished, tomorrow a preacher appears in the next house. Not my opinion, just conveyed what they said
    1. 0
      28 December 2015 20: 46
      Exactly. Why do our compatriots go into terrorists, but because a few years ago it was formulated that there is no life behind KAD.
    2. 0
      29 December 2015 18: 15
      all right, but Varvara is clearly not the case ...
  45. 0
    28 December 2015 00: 58
    Quote: aiden
    Hiding behind Islam (which has nothing to do with it) give them money and weapons, they make them go to work.
    The problem is that it does! Well, a religion cannot be a "religion of peace and goodness", where the main postulate is the five principles of jihad, the most important and highest of which is "jihad of the sword"! That is why "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims" ...
    1. -1
      28 December 2015 07: 12
      You Tamil tigers or Basa ETA tell us that they are Muslims. Or some sort of revolutionary forces of Colombia, which are in fifth place in the world in the killed in the attacks
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