VRU adopted a budget-2016. Ukraine's military spending will grow immediately by 21%

The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted the budget, which has recently been demanded from Ukraine by Western partners. The budget is scarce. Next year, revenues will be less than expenses by 3,7%. At least, this is the figure that the Ukrainian cabinet is going to reach at the end of the year. This figure appeared "not from the ceiling" - it was recommended to fix in the budget "friends of Ukraine" from the IMF. Otherwise, Kiev would not be able to receive new loans through the fund.

Attention is drawn to the fact that the item of military expenditures of Ukraine will immediately grow by 21%. This suggests that Kiev is going to continue its punitive operation in the Donbass, which fits into the range of interests of the main sponsors of the Maidan authorities of Ukraine. Military expenses "Square" reached the value of 55,6 billion hryvnia.

In addition, it is reported that there is a so-called special fund in which there is an article about the costs of "improving the defense capability and security of the state." Informational portal UNIAN reports that 3,6 billion hryvnia is provided in the special fund for these needs.

Earlier, the President of Ukraine Poroshenko said that the expenditure article for military needs must be brought to 5% of GDP.

A rhetorical question arises: why does Kiev need such a military budget if it declares its “desire” to solve the Donbas issue “by political means”?

Comments

[evil partisan]

As I understand it. that ukroadmirals and generals / degenerates in 2016. will become even thicker ...

[kil 31]

The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted the budget, which has been demanded from Ukraine by its western partners lately.

Well, now the help in loans will do, about weapons. The problem is how to provide social opportunity for domestic economies?

[oldseaman1957]

Ukraine's military spending will grow by 21% at once

- They are bad patriots! It was necessary to zafigachit 99% of GDP for ukrovoyak. And what, shoot, then shoot! To jump, so to jump ...

[cniza]

Not to feed the horse, everything will go into emptiness and for the good of the "great generals".

[NIKNN]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Ukraine's military spending will grow by 21% at once

- They are bad patriots! It was necessary to zafigachit 99% of GDP for ukrovoyak. And what, shoot, then shoot! To jump, so to jump ...

Is it only 1% for "horse racing"? But how to warm up in winter?

[Denis Obukhov]

And rightly so, you give petro more scooters and bicycles to the army. Quiet and secretive movement of troops plus ecology.

[aktanir]

now, instead of one, they will be able to buy as many as two "strongholds" and allow them to pay for the delivery of another 5-6 Hammers from America

[Oleg14774]

Quote: aktanir

now, instead of one, they can buy two whole "strongholds"

They have a lot of equipment left from the USSR, albeit not new, but against New Russia it is deadly and people. they have more resources! So stop splashing saliva! About ten years ago they themselves had such an army that my dear mother! We are peasants or market women!

[Maxom75]

I would not panic ahead of time, the budget includes the revenues planned for new types of taxes. The problem is that they could not collect taxes before, but in the current situation it has become almost impossible. According to the Ukrainian tax authorities, taxes and fees come mainly from customs, there is no discipline within the country. In addition, we must take into account that taxes include income from private farms, but will the villagers want to pay from each cow and pig? The tax on cars has been increased, I'm afraid it will soon become a luxury again. Large enterprises with the entry into association with the EU and the closure of the Russian market will receive trade imbalances, which again will lead to an increase in agricultural production and a decrease in its competitiveness in the markets. Add to this the lack of modernization for 20 years and the question of the implementation of this budget will become the main one. The budget adopted by the parliament is the budget of the attack, the entire budget is for the beginning of the war in the Donbass and the Crimea, and then everything can be attributed to it. And this is scary.

[aktanir]

there is also such a factor as the friends of the new republics - the RF Airborne Forces!

[Ros 56]

Explain more specifically.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

And rightly so, you give petro more scooters and bicycles to the army. Quiet and secretive movement of troops plus ecology.

I wouldn’t be joking about the budget yet, they killed more than one thousand people with those "scooters and bicycles".
So there is no need to fumble during the plague in the Ukrainian parliament. They themselves "vaccinated" in the form of large salaries, and the people will tear their navel!

[vkl-47]

You can write off more bobbles from the war. This is very convenient. And the iron excuse. "Where is the money？." "Yes, everything went to the war. With separatist terrorists" Western and budget loot will be poured into pockets. And as the APU wore quilted jackets, so it will be walk. yes in paper peppers

[The black]

there will be something to buy the next batch of expired canned and written off body armor ... ..... But seriously, this is not surprising. The budget was written in the West. And the West absolutely does not need peace in Ukraine. So the increase in military spending is like a commission for waging a war in the Donbass.

[APASUS]

Quote: Black

there will be something to buy the next batch of expired canned and written off body armor ... ..... But seriously, this is not surprising. The budget was written in the West. And the West absolutely does not need peace in Ukraine. So the increase in military spending is like a commission for waging a war in the Donbass.

Any budget can be adopted, but until the economy starts working, the country will remain on a level with Upper Volta. And so far there are no prerequisites for launching the economy, and another military company can finish off not just the remnants of the economy, but also the remnants of statehood itself! Already the Hungarians of Transcarpathia are rebelling, the Poles are settling in Lviv very significantly, but to say that Novorossia can grow by another 3-5 republics at all is not worth it, this is already clear to everyone. Another military campaign can simply put a logical point in a protracted internal conflict, where everyone will go their own expensive.

[Lord of the Sith]

I hope the VO administration will not mind my summary.

A summary of the military and social situation in the DPR from the military commander "Mag"

It plowed at night and in the morning at the airport it falls hard, not often true, but gifts from Ukrainians arrive a couple of times an hour. At 14:54 there was a strong bang, they said, even in the center it was clearly audible. And this with closed windows in apartments, on the street not a month in May. From and now, while I am writing at 17:08, I flew twice.
BCH markedly increased, a lot of Urals with l / s, KAMAZ with BK, medical MAZ, KShM. It can be seen that the VSN are preparing for the junta's offensive. I will not write the numbering of brigades. Donetsk residents themselves see the numbers on the sides of the equipment and this will not be news to them, and whoever does not live in Donetsk, I also think it will not give anything interesting. Noticeably more became patrols of the DPR police and MGB vehicles.
There are a lot of exercises, both the militia themselves and the people living near the training grounds talk a lot about this.
The residents of Donetsk are familiar with all this, rushing about their business, someone wants to buy groceries, at their tiny retirement and at least somehow celebrate the New Year. What by the way do the traders use and inflate prices. The leadership of the republic goes to the markets and fines for unreasonable price increases. About 600 - 000 rubles are collected per week from such fines. Then, through the Central Bank of the DPR (the central bank), it pays pensions, with which pensioners go to the market, where traders raise prices. The circle is closed ...
Pensions and salaries: Pensioners receive pensions from 1 to 800 rubles. Salaries from 3 to 600 rubles. Doctors and teachers receive from 2 rubles. The salaries of the military personnel of the VSN are: rank-and-file -000 rubles, sergeants 7 rubles, officers from 000 rubles. and higher. Do not forget about the rear workers. Here they write "the army of the VSN is 4 thousand people," but you must take into account that about 500 thousand of them are rear services. Here at the rear, the situation with payment is worse, from 15 rubles a month, sometimes they are delayed. People on posts for 000 days without sleep.
In pharmacies, prices for Ukrainian medicines have increased, in principle, there are no more of them, and prices for Russian medicines have started to decrease by 10-15%. Today, for example, I ask for a medicine, the seller said, this is only sold in Ukraine. Conversely, if a woman buys medicines from a long list. It turns out that in Avdeevka (occupied by Ukraine) there is a shortage of drugs, some of which are not at all. For example, the neighbors each wrote their own medicines so that she could buy Russian medicines in Donetsk. And Ukraine considers this city freed from separatists?

[padded jacket]

Meanwhile, Poroshenko and his company disbanded after his trip to Israel. Apparently, he received the "permission" to destroy Donbass.
Tanks and "Grads" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine moved in the direction of Stanytsia Luganskaya, - LPR reconnaissance
So, on December 24, at about 12 noon, the Armed Forces of Ukraine from positions in Luhansk fired from BMP, AGS and small arms at the positions of the People's Militia of the LPR in the Kalinovka area. There are no casualties.
In addition, according to intelligence, from the settlement of Belovodsk in the direction of Stanytsia Luhanska, the movement of a column of heavy weapons and artillery, totaling 30 units, was noted.
The convoy consisted of 10 T-64 tanks, 5 Grad MLRS and 8 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mounts, 122 units, the People's Militia of the LPR specified.
Also, a convoy of trucks with ammunition and up to 60 personnel proceeded in this direction.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1451038719

[RUSS]

Quote: quilted jacket

Tanks and "Grads" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine moved in the direction of Stanytsia Luganskaya, - LPR reconnaissance

They have been moving for 3 months already.

[padded jacket]

Quote: RUSS

They have been moving for 3 months already.

Well, it was just that there was no permission from Western patrons to attack the Donbass, but now Poroshenko apparently received it by traveling from the beginning to the USA and then to Israel.

[RUSS]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: RUSS

They have been moving for 3 months already.

Well, it was just that there was no permission from Western patrons to attack the Donbass, but now Poroshenko apparently received it by traveling from the beginning to the USA and then to Israel.

Reports that a regrouping is taking place in the Donbas and troops are being pulled together arrive almost immediately after the Minsk agreements, how much and what can be pulled together?

[Ros 56]

You know very well that the vicious circle can only be opened in a radical way. I live in the South Urals, so my offer will not work with us, but honestly, many support me. I think it’s easier, although it is also fraught. A couple, three hucksters would be put against the wall, you see, you wouldn’t be so impudent. And especially before the New Year, completely crazy, even here.

[German Titov]

There are more "DPR police patrols and MGB vehicles". I don't know, I didn't notice. We are preparing for the New Year. Today, for example, st. Artyom was partially blocked. "Donetsk celebrates the New Year" -For children there are matinees, a Christmas tree and those "beggars" from which I grew up for a long time. "Are there problems? Therefore, strengthening security measures are the right measures. We are next to the idiots. Here is Shurik Drochinov offered to postpone Christmas to December 25. Everyone wiped off (added one more reason to "dunk" the vodka). As for the medicines, my sister had previously sent them out of Moscow for a sick father. Now he is sending them. Analogue is better than Ukrainian. Cheaper (analogue of "ceretite") We are not all well, we are not used to it, but we are doing to make it better. At night, the noise, "you think, go", you come up to the window, the "utilities" clean up the garbage. Of course, there are "problems" with pensions and payments. On the one hand, there are obvious shortcomings. I have not yet managed to get to the Pension Fund (in July of the last I completed everything), - I didn’t receive thanks to the "father otaman". " these clowns owe me $ 24770. " If they give them "Kiev cakes", then "fat" will be before the New Year))). By the way, the real "Kiev cake" (cookers have a recipe ") has always been sold in Boryspil (highway Kiev = Donetsk, etc.). There (for connoisseurs) one could find" Kiev cake ", not Roshen's shit." In Borispol, at the apartment they were preparing "Kiev cake". The name "Kiev cake", of course, appeared much later than "Tula gingerbread" (yes, there were gingerbreads in our time, "they did not stale for a month). And then came the" merchant Kolyvan "(Victoria Nuland)" Do you want gingerbread "? I don’t want gingerbread ... Sorry bukaff a lot. I am “the son of a miner, I’m a simple daughter of a Crimean officer and believe me, not everything is so simple here.” Good luck to all commentators. Happy New Year. We also celebrate “Mug in flowers - oppa in soap”. Grandpa "admin" I ask you, at least for the New Year put the DNR flag on my "avatar", for the Republic is mine.

[Lord of the Sith]

I would like to highlight the situation with prices in the republic, as well as other aspects, in order to stop the wave of rumors that I have been observing in recent weeks.
Product prices: Bread 16 rubles, Egg 58 rubles, Milk 1l. 38 rub., Cottage cheese 150 rub., Cheese 350 rub., Vegetable oil 1l. 36 rub., Meat 300 rub., Lard 250 rub., Carrot 30 rub., Cabbage 22 rub., Potato 16 rub. (Kursk, Voronezh), Onion 25 rubles, Garlic 200 rubles, Herring 200 rubles, Hake (ice cream) 280 rubles.
We pay for public utilities at the Central Bank of the DPR, not Ukraine, as some bloggers, being a thousand kilometers from Donetsk, are trying to lie.
Utilities: Electricity 100 kW 35 rubles., Hot water 1 cubic meter. 35 rubles, Heating 320 rubles / 50 sq. M (2-room), Gas per person 7,79 rubles, Cold Water 1 cu. 5,60 rubles., Apartment fee 196 rubles., Rubbish 37 rubles.

About gasoline. We had a problem with gasoline, it lasted for about 5 days. What can’t you read on the Internet: - and that they are merging us once again, and that the oligarchs rule the republic, and that we have corruption everywhere, in general, there are a lot of nasty things. We had gasoline for 56-58 rubles, and traded all and sundry. Now the republic’s leadership is trying to do it centrally. In general, 5 days was a shortage. Now 95th at 45 rubles per liter. As the saying goes "oil painting".
Some bloggers came up with another fake, allegedly entrepreneurs pay taxes in Ukraine. Enterprises and small businesses are massively registered with the DPR tax. Those who do not want to register and pay taxes to the republic are deprived of their enterprise. A new director and accountant simply arrives. Only the Central Bank of the DPR and its branches operate in the republic. Cash collection between Ukraine and the DPR does not travel, even if someone wanted to pay taxes to Ukraine, then physically he could not. And the enterprises are in many ways worthless, the production chain is broken, or there are no raw materials or no orders. Therefore, another fake.
In general, it is very annoying to read those who are thousands of kilometers away and write all sorts of fables. Or predictions that supposedly merge us. I suggest you come to Donetsk and stay with us here for at least a day. Look, with your own eyes, what is being built and restored here, the Vespers and Morning cannonades. I think you will immediately be ashamed of the fact that you used to lie about us and ostensibly plums.
All patience and health!

[Asadullah]

As I understand it. that ukroadmirals and generals / degenerates in 2016. become even thicker

If. Look, after NG they have nothing to lose. Can Perekop decide to storm?

[Asadullah]

Here, for those in doubt:

Islyamov: The Tatar battalion is already ready to return Crimea to Ukraine by force http://test.wow-impulse.net/news/36528-islyamov--tatarskij-b .. "Islyamov also stressed that this battalion is likely to finance and provide everyone necessary Turkey. "Our leader Mustafa Dzhemilev talked with the president. While we talked with Turkey, the Turkish president responded and decided to staff us, our battalion, understands that Ukraine is not yet strong enough to afford another battalion to supply. Turkey immediately responded and declared that she was ready to finance this battalion. "....

[Amurets]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

As I understand it. that ukroadmirals and generals / degenerates in 2016. will become even thicker ...

Yes! First a belly will appear, and after 15 minutes the general. Just like Gianni Rodari in Chippolino: a belly on a trolley.

[Ros 56]

maybe they will, but in this race they will not equal the president.

[marlin1203]

How so? The country is collapsing, and the budget deficit is only 3%. Did they find the gold of ancient ukrov?

[Ami du peuple]

then immediately the 21% increase in military spending in Ukraine. This suggests that Kiev is going to continue its punitive operation in Donbass.

Not the fact that the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is carried out exclusively for the ATO in the Donbass. These imbeciles can cross into the Crimea, and in Transnistria. They will become ...

[Comrade Bender]

It is suicidal for them to go to the Crimea, and they perfectly understand this. And getting into Transnistria is for them outright aggression, they will also be ockoned. All sorts of "blockades" are for them, they are masters of this, but no more. The money to legally cut.

[The black]

unlikely ... the imbitils have owners who understand that, having rocketed to the Crimea, the imbitils will immediately receive a return flow and in 3-4 days they will force the Danube, fleeing from the "damned m.s.k.a.l.e .y ".....

[Asadullah]

They’re suicidal in Crimea.

Most likely it does not depend on them. They will give the go-ahead, well, not to attack, but to start military provocations, so that Russia would inflict several strikes directly on the territory of Ukraine. They will take all the zhmurov from the morgues to the neighborhood, the journalist will come in large numbers. Again sanctions, again what else. So to speak, a new circle of the shaman around Russia ...

[jaguarstas]

The cuts will continue. I don’t think that Ucoarmy will change in quality terms by 21%.

[kil 31]

Quote: jaguarstas

The cuts will continue. I don’t think that Ucoarmy will change in quality terms by 21%.

I would not put the main cut. We also have a cut on the military commissar, but the army and navy are rearming. So what about these loans, they can more or less rearm. Not everything is stolen, the remnants remain.

[Rader]

Quote: Kil 31

Quote: jaguarstas

The cuts will continue. I don’t think that Ucoarmy will change in quality terms by 21%.

I would not put the main cut. We also have a cut on the military commissar, but the army and navy are rearming. So what about these loans, they can more or less rearm. Not everything is stolen, the remnants remain.

Well, it seems to me that everything depends on the opinion of the "curator from Washington". If old Joe says: "Ahr_n_or steal like that!" - then% 50-60 will go to work. If for overseas owners, a strong and united Ukraine is not needed, regardless of who it really belongs to, then they will not get into such trifles as a couple of stolen hundreds of millions.
However, it should be noted that at least 10% will go to the needs of the army (at least they will arrange a show). In addition, even from what has been put into their hands, much will go towards strengthening their private armies (it is one thing to get money, another is to preserve capital).

[as150505]

This confirms that Ukraine does not want to fulfill the Minsk agreements, but is going to fight on.

[morpogr]

All these military expenditures are just a cover for the thrift of money from the budget and at the same time loans. After all, these articles are all closed and classified, which gives the junta and Western "friends" unlimited opportunities to steal everything they can. And the people will be fed with promises of a bright future type soon, visas will be canceled, the truth is for those who show that he has a lot of money, etc.

[sever.56]

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[Rosty]

Don't stop people from making mistakes. Eastern wisdom

[Denis Obukhov]

Why did they sit all night? It was impossible to read everything at another time. Anyway, no one understood anything in this writings, only the appearance of work was created. And the owners do not ask, they just wrote everything that was needed and ordered to approve.

[seti]

People on the verge of poverty and they are going to cut the military budget.

[Vadim237]

And the authorities will always give a damn about the people becoming poor - their pocket is closer to the trough.

[novobranets]

Note that the deputies cannot accept the budget of Ukraine for 2016 for three weeks now. The Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk threatened to deprive the people's representatives of the New Year and Christmas holidays if they do not approve the document in the near future.

These deputies will at least support anything after such a threat.

The people began to understand something.

people protest against the 2016 budget.
The demonstrators are confident that the country's main financial document for next year will deal a fatal blow to the agricultural sector of Ukraine ...

[KG_patriot_last]

A rhetorical question arises: why does Kiev need such a military budget if it declares its “desire” to solve the Donbas issue “by political means”?

Yes, they no longer think about New Russia, but about keeping the rest of the region by force, with such a policy ...

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

It’s all wrong - 5 percent of the budget should go to the economy; science and culture (why spend more if you still have a baner country), and everything else — to the army — the generals of the country house and yacht with cottages need ...

[mpzss]

why parashenko people !? he needs to fill his pocket, but to unfasten the states, well, or who oversees him there !?

[RUSS]

Why did the author of the article conclude that if Ukraine increases defense spending, does this necessarily indicate preparation for a new round of hostilities in the Donbass? Russia has been increasing defense spending for several years, so what? Can we be special? Even during the crisis years, we raised the defense industry.

[Prosecutor]

But what about the requirements and the IMF for optimizing budget expenditures? That is, it is possible to leave citizens without medicines for loans, but it is impossible to save on equipment? Both the US and MWF consider this to be very democratic.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Oh Wei .. The show goes on! I take everything away ...

[hohkn]

For the next year, income will be less than expenses by 3,7%.

I doubt it, however! I suppose the figure will be an order of magnitude larger. In words, you can hum anything, but where do you get the income from? Oligarchs do not share with the state, and enterprises are out of work.

[mamont5]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Not the fact that the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is carried out exclusively for the ATO in the Donbass. These imbeciles can cross into the Crimea, and in Transnistria. They will become ...

This means deciding on a war with Russia. IT will go to IT only when the time comes for suicide. Perhaps they will be pushed to THIS, but, I think, not yet.

[fa2998]

Quote: Sith Lord

I would like to highlight the situation with prices in the republic,

In principle, the given prices are the prices of the Rostov region. A ruble or two higher and lower. Only the incomes of Donetsk residents are small. In summer, at the construction site, people from the DPR worked for 12-15 thousand. They said that "they have a good job at home" 4 -5 thousand You can't live on that kind of money, especially for pensioners.

[KVIRTU]

"This year (we are talking about 2015) 15 billion and plus were allocated for the needs of the army UAH 11 billion from the reserve fund... Next year - UAH 50 billion - is the guaranteed budget proposed by the Ministry of Defense, "said Mr. Poltorak."
Who does not know - the reserve, or special, MOU fund is virtual money. This refers to the cost of surplus property, land of the MO, etc., which the MO itself must sell (provide air transportation services, for example) and earn this money.
But, but ... in practice, this fund is filled with 10 percent. That is real funding, as you can see, is half of the declared, and this has been the case since 1991.

[wicked pinnochio]

They have money from where they get Russia, they should allocate money for the war

[Vadim237]

In Ukraine, the money allocated by the IMF was not stolen, but thrown into the gold and foreign exchange reserves now for 15 billion dollars, but for the people and everything else this money is not.

[Ros 56]

Just like ours. look at the salary and pensions of deputies and officials, well, let's say, starting from the regional level and compare with ordinary mortals, even if they were famous artists, but they died in poverty.

[Militia]

Where does infa come from? Forty IMF on the tail brought? Or a reference to the studio, it would be better

[dchegrinec]

They spent this budget purely for the sake of the West and for obtaining a loan. They drive themselves even further into the cesspool!

[Gardener91]

Yes, they are not themselves, but they are being driven and when they cross the line, when they will be required of them, but for now they are setting conditions.

[Gardener91]

The budget became deficit only due to the planned large expenditures on the type of defense without an increase in social services. And these are the demands of the IMF!? Where are they pushing the people? They obviously continue to prepare for war and the reason is inflated. Where are Western political scientists, experts and other "friends" of progressive humanity? Okay, sanctions, isolation, all sorts of crap, but you can't turn a blind eye to how the bear's eggs are tickled and teased, because you may not like it. Puppeteers from the State Department Committee are bending their line more and more persistently.

[Barakuda]

If in a YEAR they managed to produce as many as 10 new tanks (Great Factory, they riveted dozens of them and did not stutter a month), you don't need to be a mathematician .. Just for their repair 20% will be needed.

[liza1999]

And the hop will be 21% of "0"?

[Kudrevkn]

And yet. if we compare the budgets of the Russian Federation and the Ukrainian opii.then among Ukrainians, he is even more "focused on" social services "". than ours? And if we compare the indicator of the ratio of the budget to the number of the population, then these indicators are practically equal here too ?! That is, they and we are equally poor, although we have oil and gas! And our defense spending is higher than 8% to 5%! What conclusions can we draw from this? Unfortunately, they are disappointing: our government, our economy, and the financial sector are performing even worse than Ukrainian ones! In addition, the Ukrainians have lost the Crimea and Donbass, and we have lost only conscience and the ability to grab indiscriminately money and real estate and movable property in the West? What kind of f ... canine "import substitution"? What are "disruptive technologies" and "food security"? While the principle will be fulfilled: He who does not work and talks a lot not about business - he eats satisfyingly! "And" One with a bowl, and seven with a spoon "? - THE SAME! And to the standard of living of the Finns or Norwegians - we like to the Moon? They say we will fly by 2030! Okay, will we again believe those who "say"?