Kurtulmush: Turkey did not plan the destruction of the Russian Su-24

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmush said that the earlier announced number of sorties by Russian aircraft was based on data from the Western coalition and statements by the Russian Defense Ministry, and this information is in no way connected with the data on the violation of the Turkish border, which the bomber crew allegedly made, RIA News.

The agency recalls that on Wednesday, the representative of the Russian Defense Ministry Konashenkov pointed to accurate data published in the Turkish media about the number of sorties of Russian aircraft in Syria. All publications contained a reference to the Deputy Prime Minister Kurtulmush.

"This suggests that the command of the US Air Force passed to the General Staff of Turkey all the information that Russia provided to the American side," said Konashenkov. That is, the Turkish military was well aware of the "at what time and in which area the combat task of the Russian bomber will be carried out."

Therefore, “the words of Numan Kurtulmush (on the number of sorties) can be considered the official recognition by Turkey of the fact of a pre-planned operation to destroy the Russian plane in the Syrian sky and kill Russian soldiers,” the representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.

“The figures that we gave at the press conference are based on the data of the coalition forces and the statements of Moscow about the operation in Syria. Attempts by an official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense to issue data on an air operation in Syria for data on border violations are an attempt to shift responsibility from a sore head to a healthy one ”, - said in a statement Kurtulmusha.

According to him, "Russia must admit the pilots' guilt and focus on the real problem together with neighboring Turkey, with which it is in close relations, on establishing peace and fighting terrorism in Syria."

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

The Turks "floated", the excuses went stupid ...

[Korney84]

Numan Kurtulmush, don’t drive us ...

[Sasha 19871987]

here ... for starters, apologize, otherwise everything is smeared ... we just adore noodles on our ears ...

[Lukich]

Quote: sasha 19871987

here ... apologize first

mandatory, otherwise it may be forced to apologize

[1976AG]

If I am not mistaken, the statement of V. Volkova has been laid out for the 14 time! Enough already?

[Lukich]

Quote: 1976AG

If I am not mistaken, the statement of V. Volkova has been laid out for the 14 time! Enough already?

enough removed

[-Traveler-]

Putin on the bear also has a picture of Lavrov with the signature “d-b-b-b”, publish comrade Marshal. and don’t be shy, give us the entire collection of photojabs, demotivators and other collages, all 5 patriotic terabytes at once.

[Atrix]

Quote: 1976AG

If I am not mistaken, the statement of V. Volkova has been laid out for the 14 time! Enough already?

And you need to earn the plus signs. What is easier than throwing out "patriotic" slogans.

[Maxom75]

not so, but so it is necessary to write: "from our house to yours" or "with ardent wishes", especially when the missiles arrive in Erdagan's house it will become quite warm.

[SergGrey318]

It must be. )))

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Korney84

do not drive us ..

And he doesn't "drive" anything. Islam, in the midst of all that is good and good, requires its wards not to tell the truth to the Gentiles. And this is taken from the main source of religion, from Judaism.

[Denisey]

Yeah. Again they got their old dirty button accordion out of the closet. After such a statement, you can only wish the Turkish military pilots a clear peaceful sky, until they fall under the S-400 sight.

[Mihalich17]

Not that stupid, namely "OTMAZKI"!)))
It came to them - they got into "WHAT" !!!
But, "the train has left" already, new realities are coming for the Turks and they are not too good for them!
From the word - absolutely !!!)))

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Turks, excuses went dumb ...

- Well, the Turks did not expect the ASYMMETRIC answer. And such were the huge plans: the Caliphate - a balm for the soul of Erdogan, ISIS - full pockets of bucks from oil and the resale of stolen artifacts. Well, they shot down the SU-24, thought that Russia would come to its senses, enter a situation. And then Putin completely began to break all ties. Economic. And this is generally a guard! So the Erdogans and the Kurtulmushi bleated. Kirdyk rolls up, however ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Kirdyk rolls up, however ...

no ... "kirdyk" is when the "poplar" comes in for landing!

[Lukich]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

no ... "kirdyk" is when the "poplar" comes in for landing!

will be fat. "Caliber" is enough

[unsinkable]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

.. "kirdyk" is when the "poplar" comes in for landing!

Kirdyk, he is also a kirdyk in Africa. Although * poplar * comes in, even hang on a birch.

[79807420129]

Again, old songs about the main thing, that ours doesn’t say how many fuel trucks were torn, but on the other hand revenge is a cold dish and there’s no reason to shout about it, let the Turks howl.

[Fregate]

But are these words

Kurtulmush said that he previously announced the number of sorties of Russian aircraft based on data from the western coalition

these words do not confirm

"This suggests that the command of the US Air Force passed to the General Staff of Turkey all the information that Russia provided to the American side," said Konashenkov.

Or did I not understand something?

And as for

based on data from the western coalition and statements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

So it seems that ours do not always indicate the exact number of flights. Sometimes they say: "More (or less) 50 flights were made in a day." Those. there is definitely not counting.

[Kite]

Quote: Fregate

Or did I not understand something?

According to the established agreement, we informed the NATO command of the coalition about upcoming departures and areas of operations (as Konashenkov says, Kurtulmultush blundered about his awareness), i.e. excuse Tureks that they did not know at first whose plane was shot down - does not work. Conclusion: they knew whose plane they knew, where and when it turned out, the attack was prepared intentionally.

[Maxom75]

The Turks the more they try to make excuses, the more truth comes to the surface and more clearly their unrighteous deeds.

[Ami du peuple]

"Russia must admit the guilt of the pilots and focus on the real problem, together with neighboring Turkey, with which it is in close relations, to establish peace and the fight against terrorism in Syria."

It turns out that we are in close relations with Turkey, in what! It remains only to play the wedding, yeah. But only first, Russia should repent for its own dead pilot. And, in addition, these long-standing accomplices of terrorists urge us to unite with them in the fight against terror!
Some schizophrenia .. With a Turkish accent.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

Buy VASELIN, put them in the letter Z, then there will be close relations !!!

[1976AG]

Quote: BLACK-SHARK-64

Buy VASELIN, put them in the letter Z, then there will be close relations !!!

They said that there is already a close relationship. But at the expense of Vaseline did not specify.

[Lukich]

Quote: 1976AG

But at the expense of Vaseline did not specify.

and this is implied as a matter of course. we are not sadists

[V.ic]

Quote: BLACK-SHARK-64

put them with the letter Z, then there will be a close relationship!

Where so many donkeys to collect on them? Or do the gay people go for free?

[russmensch]

What wedding? Are they getting married to prostitutes? GDP already has Turkey as it wants.

[The black]

Another indistinct mooing of the Turkish juntik ...

[subbtin.725]

Let’s see what it will sing in the middle of spring when the height of the tourist season approaches. In the meantime, the next: blah, blah ...

[Bort radist]

Quote: subbtin.725

Let’s see what it will sing in the middle of spring when the height of the tourist season approaches.

I have already heard somewhere that it is desirable to "understand and forgive" in March. Loot is ready to sell everything.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Well, ours is there, everyone is busy with a black box, like Poroshenko with a piece of a bus. Anyway, the West will not recognize any decryption and will bend its line.

[76SSSR]

Russia must admit the guilt of the pilots

The words of a bastard and a hypocrite.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

to the reptile wall !!!

[yuriy55]

There is such an expression:
The road is a spoon for dinner, and there at least under the bench.

The place of the Turks is under the bench ...

[moskowit]

"The legend is fresh, but hard to believe!"

[Decathlon]

"... Russia must admit the guilt of the pilots ..."
Turkish rafiks do not see the shores at all! Maybe they will ask for moral compensation for the experience ?! You do not know how to make excuses, it’s better to keep quiet, you will marry a smart ...

[HAM]

Only Erdogan must admit guilt, do not pay off the figs!

[Altona]

Yes, you went to the forest, Mr. Kurtulmush. Turkish excuses are already enraging. They are traders in Africa and traders, an unpleasant nation.

[C2H5OH]

It is strange that there is still no such stuffing "It was Russia that shot down the Su-24 itself")) The flaw of non-polite media.

[dchegrinec]

What happened happened! If you didn’t want to, there would be nothing.

[The black]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

The Turks "floated", the excuses went stupid ...

And they have nothing left to do. The Horns and Hoofs office, whose real counterpart is the coalition led by the United States in the fight against terrorism in the Middle East, has found its vice chairman, Pound. They seem to have become lads from Ankara. And they began to understand this. Turkey, which started betraying Russia, turned out to be the most suitable candidate. The scheme for draining allies has always been worked out in the West: first, a broad company in the media, then soft accusations of misbehavior from the White House, and then dumping an ally for all the tricks of international legal organizations. That's the Turks who were grumbling about their virgin innocence.

[Masya masya]

"Russia must admit the guilt of the pilots and focus on the real problem, together with neighboring Turkey, with which it is in close relations, to establish peace and the fight against terrorism in Syria." He raves ...

[voronbel53]

Quote: Masya Masya

together with neighboring Turkey, with whom it is in close relations

This is the same if you "grabbed" something venereal from your partner, ask her for forgiveness to continue further close relationships, although she herself does not even want to be treated, and everything falls on you. These are the "close" relations we should have with the Turks, according to Kurtulmush ...

[novobranets]

Even if it was hypothetically assumed that the Russian bomber flew into Turkey, the Turks did not have the right to shoot him down, they had to force him out, since he did not do any aggressive actions — he didn’t bombard or bomb them. And therefore, all their pumpkins are babble on the lawn. Rusk was struck in the back hemisphere, fell on the territory of Syria, which means that his course at that moment was towards the border (if he flew to Turkey at all, which I strongly doubt). They must be punished, without options. To lower the brakes means to set a precedent, then they will finally become insolent.

[Altona]

Quote: novobranets

To lower the brakes means to set a precedent, then they will finally become insolent.

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Then they will shoot down, for example, in the Baltic states and demand negotiations in order to "remove tension." We must give it hard in the teeth. In general, it was possible to dash around the home base with something. But this is not our method.

[novobranets]

Quote: Altona

But this is not our method.

This is our method. But he needs, as they say now, political will. Under the USSR, once in BV, God forbid, in Libya or in Lebanon, an employee of the Soviet consulate was kidnapped, it seems. Requirements began, such as "let's go, but you must in return ...". When all of the RELATIVES of several kidnappers suddenly and irrevocably died on the same day, our man was immediately released. And not one with ... did not even dare to be indignant. Then the word of the KGB in the prisons of the world frightened criminals. That's what I understand, reputation. Until now, as I remember, I am proud of the country.

[kazachyok69]

And what about the recorders, everything died out? After all, ours claimed that by decrypting them they would prove that the Su-24 did not cross the Turkish border. Just wondering if you crossed it or not? The Turks say it crossed ... there is no intelligible information from ours ... Let them say directly - crossed, but did not carry any threat ... Otherwise, the talking shop is incomprehensible ... No specifics ...

[vadimtt]

With a high degree of probability, the data of the recorder cannot be restored. Mechanically only one chip survived. Given the technical level of the device’s performance, it is unlikely that there was any serious duplication of information. Alas.

[Altona]

Quote: vadimtt

With a high degree of probability, the data of the recorder cannot be restored. Mechanically only one chip survived. Given the technical level of the device’s performance, it is unlikely that there was any serious duplication of information. Alas.

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Yes, what's the point in them? Nobody provides us data of flight recorders # MH17 either, but they blame us. Although the board itself fell on the territory of Ukraine, in the zone of responsibility of Ukrainian air defense.

[kazachyok69]

Nobody provides us data of flight recorders # MH17 either, but they blame us.

And what is going on with us? We did not speak on TV programs-experts-witnesses-shot down the Su-25 ??? The name of the pilot was called? "Cannon holes in the cockpit" .. THIS IS NOT TOLD TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY? Now our people also admit that they were shot down by a rocket from the ground ... someone else's conversation ... The question is, why was it necessary to deliberately fool the whole country with false data? Why throw blatant misinformation in your country?
Morality - EVERYTHING IS COVERED BY DARKNESS !!!!!

[Fregate]

Quote: kazachyok69

And what is going on with us? We did not speak on TV programs-experts-witnesses-shot down the Su-25 ??? The name of the pilot was called? "Cannon holes in the cockpit" .. THIS IS NOT TOLD TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY? Now our people also admit that they were shot down by a rocket from the ground ... someone else's conversation ... The question is, why was it necessary to deliberately fool the whole country with false data? Why throw blatant misinformation in your country?
Morality - EVERYTHING IS COVERED BY DARKNESS !!!!!

Of course, I did not hear all of our statements, but of those that I heard, I did not notice that someone from our leadership asserted that he was shot down by the Su-25. SLAVE to this version - yes, and to APPROVE - no. In addition, if it is hit by a rocket, this does not cancel the fact that there was a Su-25. He was also seen by our means of control and local residents. In from and therefore inclined to this version.

[kazachyok69]

. In from and therefore inclined to this version.

Don't you find that there are NO conclusions on our plane in Egypt? FSB said something ... And why? The FSB says a lot ... but the international investigation continues and the version of the terrorist attack is just one of the versions ... while our PEOPLE are 99% sure, thanks to the box, that this has been proven! By the way, the victims of this catastrophe (their eternal memory) are still not "carried out" as victims of a terrorist attack! There is no criminal case on the terrorist attack !!!!!!
What is happening then? What do our media carry?

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: kazachyok69

Morality - EVERYTHING IS COVERED BY DARKNESS !!!!!

In general, only verified information should be published in the press (in the media). Otherwise, this is provocative information. And for this there should be responsibility.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: evge-malyshev

(in the media) only verified information should be published.

Axiom that does not require evidence. But then what will zhurnoshlyushki eat?

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: kazachyok69

Morality - EVERYTHING IS COVERED BY DARKNESS !!!!!

In general, only verified information should be published in the press (in the media). Otherwise, this is provocative information. And for this there should be responsibility.

[kazachyok69]

In general, only verified information should be published in the press (in the media).

1 TV channel is responsible for something? On "Egypt" - we have a criminal case - there is no terrorist attack in it! The FSB's statement about explosives is what they say behind the text, it could be, but the people then "think" what they say, that is, this is in fact ... and ... in fact, the work of the international commission on this disaster continues .. ..and NO final conclusions! What do we have? Ask the people, they will say, the terrorists blew up! What do they say on TV in the media? People believe them ...

[novobranets]

Quote: Altona

Nobody provides us data of flight recorders # MH17, but they blame us

MH-17: AUSTRALIA SAYS THAT RUSSIA IS NOT GUILTY, THE STREETS ARE FORGED

An official Australian investigation into the crash of the Malaysian Airlines MN-17 plane accused the Netherlands Security Council (DSB) of failing to provide “convincing evidence” that it had definitely destroyed the airliner and to say that Russia did not hit the plane, despite allegations of the opposite from DSB. This was testified in an international court in Melbourne by a senior Australian policeman investigating the crash of an MH-17 aircraft

In his testimony, Donoghue said that ten months after the accident, and after Kiev officials handed in less than half of the fragments of the fuselage to the Dutch, the discovery was made that "some fragments are not consistent with the wreckage of the aircraft."

[kazachyok69]

And who said and when is Russia to blame? Who and where at the official level said that Russia brought down? The result is YOU ABOUT WHAT?

[novobranets]

Quote: kazachyok69

And who said and when is Russia to blame?

Man, are you from Mars or are you still living? I’m not talking about the moon, because even there squeals were heard that Russia shot down HM17.

[kazachyok69]

My friend. Are you sick or what? Only Patients on their heads will say that in the airspace of Ukraine Russia shot down something with an anti-aircraft missile .. THIS IS Nonsense! Maybe they appeared on the moon and they say that? So I didn’t know ...
Moral nonsense really frank do not make a fuss!
I'm talking about the fact that the investigation "on Egypt" is still underway ... There are several versions .... Egypt-Russia-France are involved in it ..... No conclusions, only preliminary .... What kind of explosion on board- explosives and other things, our FSB and the authorities are broadcasting, I understand ... Although if you listen to them, they sound "could be so" ... But nobody listens to it))))
The bottom line is why without the final conclusions of the commission something is being said? I didn’t want to say anything else ..

[novobranets]

The American and most European news media continue their frenzied campaign to hold Russia responsible for the downing of the MH 17 airliner ... Metal thunder and lightning John McCain: “Either they were shot down by their soldiers or their surrogate rebels.” This statement was echoed by John Kerry, who stated that the United States has "irrefutable evidence of Russia's involvement."

Write, see, know how, read, learn to read. Then it turns out who is sick.

[kazachyok69]

This is where you put it all together? Is there a primary source? If the Ukrainians were shot down ... either "Bandera", which is more likely (99%) ... or "Novorossiya" .... but no matter how Russia ... there was no our air defense ..
You do not understand what is written ....
By the way

US and most European news media continue their frantic campaign

-Do you read the American and European news media? Do you speak languages?

[novobranets]

Save your sarcasm for your husband, he does not impress me. I read various media, comparing it, you can get more or less truthful information. Recommend. About nadybat, open the news of those days and do not have to look for anything, they themselves climb into the eyes. By the way, the selected text is quotes from articles.

[kazachyok69]

his frenzied campaign

You are burning my friend "rabid" ....

[novobranets]

I repeat, mother, selected text, excerpts from articles. Not mine.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: vadimtt

Only one chip survived mechanically

If the silicon crystal itself is alive, it is real, although very difficult to read. Almost like recovering information on a formatted HDD, or on a USB flash drive, only this is much easier.

[novobranets]

If the memory microcircuits survived, then they can be transferred to a similar recorder and read on standard equipment. But yesterday I read that they are still damaged. Eugene, do you imagine what kind of work it is to launch a damaged? With mechanical damage, the ceramic substrate breaks, often a crystal, and tracks are broken, all sizes of which are measured in microns. Moreover, the x-ray will not give a 100% guarantee of the integrity of the crystal, it may not notice a microcrack. It is necessary to open a strong plastic case without damaging the conductive terminals, not to mention the crystal itself. Connect to the findings, apply power and only then try to remove the information. And time for this is a breakthrough. Although in this case, of course, the end justifies the means.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: novobranets

You imagine how hard it is to start a damaged

Imagine. Not only can I imagine, but I have a concept. A bit, true, but I have.
Speaking about X-ray, you did not mention the electron microscope!

[novobranets]

Quote: Hedgehog

You did not mention the electron microscope!

And how can he help? R-research is done before opening the case, so that if there is a crack in the crystal, you should not waste time and cry to send the product into the bin. The microscope is good for detecting cracks in the board tracks, but it will not penetrate the material of the microcircuit case. Or do you know more ways? Share, if not a secret.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: novobranets

And how can he help?

An electron microscope sees through the very durable plastic that you mentioned earlier. And for tracing microcracks on the board, in addition to the usual microscope, certain liquids are used to make the crack more noticeable.

[novobranets]

Quote: Hedgehog

certain liquids that make the crack more visible.

R-potassium permanganate and Ural federal district. I don’t know others. But again, I don’t know how an electron microscope can "see" through such a dense medium.

[jaguarstas]

I will say that Turkey should:
1. She must apologize for the crime, conduct an investigation together with the Russian Federation, and extradite all the criminals of the Russian Federation for trial. Compensate in court all damage from provocation to both the Russian Federation and the families of the victims.
2. Must return territories illegally seized from other countries territories.
3. Change the foreign policy from neo-Ottoman to friendly.
4. Apologize to the Kurds for the genocide, condemn and punish those responsible for it and solve the problem with the Kurds.
5. Conduct a comprehensive international investigation of terrorist activities in Turkey and abroad, when, in one way or another, its citizens took part in this activity. Condemn and punish.

[1976AG]

Quote: jaguarstas

I will say that Turkey should:
1. She must apologize for the crime, conduct an investigation together with the Russian Federation, and extradite all the criminals of the Russian Federation for trial. Compensate in court all damage from provocation to both the Russian Federation and the families of the victims.
2. Must return territories illegally seized from other countries territories.
3. Change the foreign policy from neo-Ottoman to friendly.
4. Apologize to the Kurds for the genocide, condemn and punish those responsible for it and solve the problem with the Kurds.
5. Conduct a comprehensive international investigation of terrorist activities in Turkey and abroad, when, in one way or another, its citizens took part in this activity. Condemn and punish.

This is you a storyteller !!! Andersen nervously smokes on the sidelines!

[jaguarstas]

Tired of listening to what Russia "should".
Merikos, Turkoman, dill, Germans - all of them are not shy about pointing out loud.
Time after time they are "putting Russia in its place." And do not think that they are mongrels or pugs in front of an elephant. They are doing their propaganda work. They shape international opinion.
So I formulated the answer.

[jaguarstas]

Tired of listening to what Russia "should".
Merikos, Turkoman, dill, Germans - all of them are not shy about pointing out loud.
Time after time they are "putting Russia in its place." And do not think that they are mongrels or pugs in front of an elephant. They are doing their propaganda work. They shape international opinion.
So I formulated the answer.

[novobranets]

6. Kill Erdogan against the wall.

[novobranets]

Ba, our friend here again, ran over, promoted, he was immediately released from diarrhea. Hi drisch.

[-Traveler-]

point 2. which territories are illegally seized from other countries? and to whom to return them?
just wondering.

[midashko]

Turkey did not plan to destroy the Russian Su-24.

Turkish citizens: "Gentlemen! It happened so. But you yourself are to blame!"

You would think that Russia was planning the installation of the S-400, the cruiser Moskva, escort of fighters, economic actions against Turkey and everything else.

[Al_oriso]

Turkey has a sick head and it hurts them more and more.
I got so sick that I wanted to unite.
Only the train has already left.

[iouris]

The topic is closed. There is nothing to comment on. At the end of the road you have to pay.

[Horst78]

Something too often begins to make excuses / blame And, the season of New Year's holidays in Russia, profukan, I wonder how much they will lose only during the holidays?

[Vasily123]

Yes, our relations with Turkey have never been and will not be good. More than 12 wars is not a joke and we all know the treacherous and vile insides of the Turks and only the corrupt Moscow elite, having closed their eyes with the dinar, forgets about it, but the Turks, by virtue of their qualities listed, were immediately reminded of it, shot down by a vile airplane and killed a defenseless pilot still in the air --- and this,, good relations ??? Which whore does the language turn about good relations to say, KNOW - a traitor is nearby or just .. .....

[Stalingrad]

Erdogan drove himself into a bottle, the prime minister, instead of wise silence (after all, this is not even a confession of guilt), follows after not assessing the current situation. Oh Almighty, you really robbed them of their minds, and the GDP was right to talk about it. Shouting shameful curses, knowing that Russia is slightly distant for kilometers, the stupidest thing for politicians in such an aggravated time. But we don’t have a bow with arrows, and not a sling with a stone. History does not teach them demons. Well, wait and see.

[chunga-changa]

Of course they didn’t plan, the Americans planned, the Turks did. But it never removed the guilt of the artist. Well, if of course he is not an official or a Caucasian, but the victims - the budget or Russians, then of course you need to understand and forgive. As they say in any rule there are exceptions, but this certainly does not apply to the Turks.

[VNP1958PVN]

According to him, “Russia must admit the guilt of the pilots and focus on the real problem together with neighboring Turkey, with which she is in close relationship, - on the establishment of peace and the fight against terrorism in Syria. "

Were- now!

[Myth]

Yes they are Oh .. if

[-Traveler-]

patriots, but what did the Turks say so? Kanashenkov really pushed some garbage - the Turkish media give the exact numbers of our flights (open info, we give it to the television every day), which means that our plane was treacherously awaited. where, damn it, logic, causation, how does one follow from the other? twice two four four, so rain on Wednesday.
this does not mean that the Turks did not plan to bring down the plane. this means that the evidence must be logical, and not just blurt out.

[RUSIVAN]

Kurtulmush: Turkey did not plan to destroy the Russian Su-24 ...
Russia knows everything that you need, whether the Turks planned to shoot down the plane or not, you just understand among yourself in Turkey what to say, but how at the bazaar, everyone screams about his ... funny you

[afrikanez]

Turkey did not plan to destroy the Russian Su-24

And what is it then, the Turkish impromptu? Enough of fools to search, it’s better to admit and obey!

[project sity]

Correctly Vialetta says it is necessary to apologize on the rockets

[DHA]

Russia provides flight information to the American side. And the Americans provide, if they provide, then I doubt that this information is complete.

[DPN]

Maybe the Turks will be enough to DRAIN if Our generals themselves crap like in 1941. BOMBERS do not fly ALONE.
And do not talk about HIT IN THE BACK. The pilots themselves HANDED!

[faterdom]

It would be necessary to make an exchange of experience between the DPR and the PKK, on ​​the problems of eliminating enemy aircraft in a short time and radically. With passing the test in practical conditions.

[LEX SU]

well, it's hard to expect anything else ...

I see on the face: the Turks urgently need to "make friends" with Russia before the holiday season
leasing - leasing ... well, they licked Obama ... and the business is suffering ...

just a business

I’m wondering - is there a political force in Turkey capable of removing Erdogan?
Osman Pasha himself will not go away