Military Review

Loss semester

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From the former Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces, one name remains


December 7 turned 195 years since the founding of the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy. For the third time in its nearly two centuries of history The university meets its birthday in a new place.

For the first time it happened in 1938 year after the relocation from Leningrad to Moscow by the decision of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR. The second time was in 1941 – 1943, when the academy was evacuated from besieged Moscow to Samarkand (1944 was returned to the capital in August). And finally, the third move - to Balashikha near Moscow - was made this summer.

Moving under cover of secrecy


From the very beginning, the withdrawal of the Academy from Moscow was shrouded in a veil of secrecy, or rather, disinformation. Thus, the purpose of this action was initially called the creation of a military training and scientific center (VUNC) on a single separate space of the Strategic Missile Forces as part of the Academy and the 4 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense. Moreover, the option of basing the VUNC in Balashikha at first was not even considered, but became public only after visiting the Defense Minister of the Military-Technical University 7 in February of the current year. Then, when in March-April the concept of expanding the VUNC network of the Ministry of Defense was recognized by the Security Council as erroneous, the need to redeploy the academy was explained by the creation of conditions for its transformation into an exemplary university. Without the expansion of the territory with the planned development of modern infrastructure facilities this was declared impossible. Available official information about the future destination of the hectares of expensive land liberated by the 11 Academy in the center of Moscow was absent.

26 June, at the time of the removal of equipment and property, there were no official documents on the redeployment of the level of the government or the Minister of Defense, all cargo handling and other activities were carried out solely on the basis of oral orders.

28 of August Sergei Shoigu signed the corresponding directive with the date of execution of September 1, which entered the Academy only on September 3.

By the end of July, despite attempts to counteract the public, the relocation of the university was largely completed. The officers and cadets did a tremendous job of dismantling, loading and unloading equipment, documentation and property, which fortunately did without serious injuries.

For the sake of the speedy release of buildings at Kitaigorodsky Passage, when funds in Balashikha were unwilling to accept all the property of the Academy, its export was carried out at several addresses: to a limited extent - to buildings and structures in Balashikha, the rest - to the Academy's suburban training center, in its Serpukhov branch, in 4- th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense (Korolev) and other places. During August-September, intensive work was carried out on the elementary arrangement of the redeployed units in the new location by forces (and partly at personal expense) of permanent officers and cadets. Including the re-equipment of one (temporarily free) cadet barracks for the placement of some departments and services. No assistance was provided in these construction works of the Academy. At the same time, we must pay tribute to the Minister of Defense, who fulfilled everything he promised. The academy’s staff includes an automobile unit, buses are allocated, and the necessary number of contract drivers has been assembled from the RVSN units from all over the country. This made it possible to organize regular delivery of academy employees from the nearest metro stations to Balashikha and back, which did not shorten the duration of the ride, but at least made it cheaper. By the decision of Sergei Shoigu, to compensate for wage losses, civilian teachers and researchers who agreed to continue working at the academy after her move to Balashikha, were set additional monthly incentive payments. True, their regular implementation is not yet established. In addition, they became the cause of contention between two categories of academy employees: those who moved from Moscow (the payments are meant for them) and those who were hired after September 1 (this surcharge is not common for them).

Loss semester


On top of that, the management was forced to agree with temporary double basing: because of the impossibility of locating in Balashikha, the Academy’s research center, together with the department for organizing scientific work and training scientific and pedagogical personnel, remains in Moscow’s squares. Here also continue their work and dissertation councils. Some employees are waiting for other permanent or service housing to stay in the dormitories of the Academy in Moscow. In the previous mode, while the indoor swimming pool and dining room of Voentorg are functioning.

29 in August at the new location of the academy are sworn in by the cadets of the 2015 recruitment of the year, the regular semester is opened in the traditional rally on September 1, the 7 anniversary of December held events dedicated to the 195 anniversary of the university. Thus, the task of forced redeployment of the Academy, set by the Minister of Defense, was formally successfully fulfilled. The main academic buildings of the academy have been released, although they have not yet been transferred to anyone. And from the informal?

Muddle instead of studying


Ends first semester. As a result of the inexplicable haste and unpreparedness of the move, he was crumpled. Due to the delay in issuing the administrative document of the Ministry of Defense on redeployment, the academy approached the beginning of the school year without a new charter, without a renewed license for educational activities, without re-registration at the new address of dissertation councils, without having . That is, in general, without formal grounds for existence itself as an organization of higher education, especially as an “academy”. This legal conflict resulted in a whole bunch of violations in the area of ​​labor law. Civilian personnel have not been officially notified, as required by the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, of a transfer to another job (this is how a transfer to work in another locality is interpreted together with the employer). Accordingly, no one gave a written consent to continue work (this is also a mandatory norm of labor law), and previously concluded employment contracts should have lost their force. By hook or by crook, the issue of reissuing a license was finally resolved by mid-November, but this is only the first step. The second should be the state accreditation of all educational programs. Objectively, the academy is not ready for it, although in our present reality this does not exclude the possibility of obtaining relevant evidence.

In the absolute majority of cases, the placement conditions of officers and civilian personnel do not meet the standards, excessive constraint does not contribute to effective work.

For classes, there is a catastrophic shortage of audiences with the required landing capacity, computer classes, especially with Internet access, the internal local area network does not have adequate performance, and there are no conditions for carrying out laboratory work in physics, chemistry, and other natural sciences. The work with secret documentation, its reproduction and processing has not been established yet. Without this, a purely regime academy simply cannot function normally.

The quality of the classes is negatively affected by the absence of special educational facilities at special departments, most of them temporarily exported to other places. So, classes in the study of rocket technology have to be held in a country training center in Balabanovo, to move to which it takes four hours each way.

The system of scientific work that has taken shape at the academy over many decades has been destroyed: the main objects of the material base of research at the old place have been dismantled, and at the new one they have not been recreated. The departments, doctoral candidates, adjuncts, students and cadets are located in Balashikha, and the research center (without secret documentation and the library), the department of organizing scientific work and the training of scientific and pedagogical personnel with the department of military-technical information and the Bureau of Invention, in Moscow. with uncertain periods of stay in the old territory.

During the first semester, regular detachment from cadets' classes continued for work in progress on the removal of property from Moscow, in particular the museum’s exposition, the printing house, the fundamental library, and the emptying of educational buildings from decommissioned and broken furniture, dismantling and disposal of equipment.

Fortunately, for the time being it is not necessary to talk about a mass exodus from the academy of qualified personnel. But there are losses. For example, at the department of mathematics there was not a single doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, the department of natural sciences was left by all doctors of science and professor-mechanics. In general, by the middle of December, the decline of doctors and candidates of sciences was about 10 percent, which is far from the critical level (up to 70 percent), which was predicted by opponents of unprepared redeployment. And it's not the prognosis wrong. If this were so, the leadership of the Ministry of Defense would not have considered it. Accordingly, it would not take costly parry measures. At this stage, these measures, together with a number of other circumstances, have played a positive damping role. To some extent, the fulfillment of the obligations of the Ministry of Defense to reduce the severity of the transport problem and compensate for the financial losses of research and teaching staff from among civilian personnel, as well as the tacit introduction of so-called flexible working hours for them, affected it. In addition, the delay of organizational and staff measures, which they assumed (and as far as we know, still assume), was used as a deterrent factor for the dismissal of some permanent officers. The dismissals of civilian employees who made such decisions for themselves, apparently, were postponed by them until they received the due bonus payments under the May decree of the President of 2012 for the first to fourth quarters. The fact is that funds for this from the budget of the Ministry of Defense are allocated only at the end of the year. Therefore, people who quit earlier, their current labor and creative achievements are not taken into account in the calculation, since the actual amount of funds that will be allocated for bonuses is unknown. And the most important thing is that the conditions of temporary double-based allowed to get rid of the immediate and painful separation from the university, a large number of doctors of the age. Today, directly in Balashikha, only about 40 percent of the remaining doctors of science serve in the Academy, of which three quarters are on the very flexible schedule. About 60 percent reassigned to academic positions and while working in units on the Moscow site, forming the basis of dissertation councils.

Three whales for sustainability


The fate of the academy, which is experiencing today the most difficult period in its history, is still not indifferent to its veterans, including those who actively opposed the move. Although some of the leaders are trying to label the initiators of these actions almost as enemies of the academy, university veterans are interested in only one thing: that the state matter to which they dedicate themselves should not be ruined because of the unreasonable decisions of individual bosses. In practical terms, today it comes down to preventing the further destabilization of the team and ensuring minimization of the duration of the transition phase of the academy to sustainable development.

In this regard, the key, in our opinion, are three points.

The first is the unconditional recognition that the academy as a training and research center as a result of the redeployment has lost much of its position and this can in no way be compensated by the good condition of the infrastructure facilities of the former VTU provided for use, nor by the incentive payments, much less flexible working hours.

The second and perhaps the main key point is that the real movement towards the revival of the academy will mark only the beginning of the full-scale construction of the missing new buildings and facilities. According to the long-term development plan of the university approved by the Minister of Defense, it should have started as early as the fourth quarter of the current year, and completed on priority objects by December 2016. While construction has not begun. If, due to an economic crisis or other circumstances, the case is delayed or, even worse, is disrupted, the academy staff will finally lose faith in their command and in the leadership of the Armed Forces. With all the ensuing consequences in terms of the quality of work and further membership in the military education system. The Academy is unlikely to pass this test.

As the third key point, we highlight the need to ensure that the entire academy team patiently overcomes the current band of instability. This is possible only with an appropriate public attitude and exclusion of the dash of leadership in the search for alternative ways out of the situation. A healthy microclimate in a team is formed by respectful and careful attitude to each of the employees, a demonstration of real, if not as soon as we would like, progress towards the better. In this regard, the academy has work to do. At least over streamlining the system of incentive payments in the interests of supporting employees of all categories. As for shy, their potential danger is already seen, for example, in the options under discussion to solve the impending problem of locating upcoming sets of cadets of the academy by transferring their training to a branch in Serpukhov. Or in the proposal to reduce to an acceptable number of scientific units of existing composition, which could not be placed in Balashikha. For the academy, all these crafty adaptive searchlights are varieties of the road to nowhere, a path to non-existence.

The veterans of the academy fully share the opinion of the command of the Strategic Missile Forces and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense that preserving one of the country's leading military universities, ensuring its desired subsequent development can only be achieved through joint efforts of the military leadership and the university staff. They are not just interested and ready for such cooperation, but also implement it within their capabilities and intend to do this in the future. Forms of cooperation may be different. Somewhere support, direct participation in solving practical problems, but somewhere and criticism. Not a malicious one, but constructive and, most importantly, solely in the interests of the Academy’s speedy passing of the peak of the difficulties experienced with minimal losses. In this regard, the veterans of the Academy have no reason to change themselves.
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  1. kimyth1
    kimyth1 25 December 2015 17: 00 New
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    optimization eprst !!! in my Pikalev children's hospital is closed !!! population 23000 people !!! am
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 December 2015 17: 29 New
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      Is the withdrawal of the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Academy from the "expensive land in the center of Moscow" - a burp of Serdyukovism in the Army?
      Why is all this being carried out, can anyone intelligently explain?
      Or already, the received monetary benefit from the sale of 11 hectares in the center of Moscow, overshadowed the mind of ensuring the state’s defense capability?
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 25 December 2015 17: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Why is all this being carried out, can anyone intelligently explain?



        You need to look deeper ... Already, along the way, as a result of just this one deed and the educational process knocked down, the smallest level of preparation for graduates will be expressed in the lame level of training for 4-5 years ... So far, everything is set up ...
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      3. Mayor_U
        Mayor_U 25 December 2015 19: 08 New
        +1
        It is interesting how the state’s defenses against finding this university in Moscow are increasing ??? Relocation and change are always temporary problems But ... In the future, this is absolutely the right solution. From the point of view of the tightness of the territory, transport accessibility, the impossibility of building any new facilities, or the location of people. I have one friend (student of this Strategic Missile Forces Academy) who lives in a dormitory of 18 sq.m. CATO CITY, and scared to be proud of it. Utter utter
        1. dauria
          dauria 25 December 2015 19: 37 New
          +9
          It is interesting how the state’s defenses against finding this university in Moscow are increasing ???


          The question is not in Moscow, but in jerking off. The teaching staff in universities of this size is well-established, integral, most of the military (and civilians) are already pensioners. They won't go. Namely, this is the academy, the school with a capital letter. It is easy to translate listeners, junk is easy, and there are walls. And the "academy" will fall apart, remain in Moscow and dissolve in other universities (at best).
      4. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 December 2015 20: 21 New
        +6
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Is the withdrawal of the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Academy from the "expensive land in the center of Moscow" - a burp of Serdyukovism in the Army?

        It’s not clear whose belch is.
        Find from 3 times in this biography military service, study at a military school, study at an academy or any military orientation.
        Sergei Shoigu studied at the Krasnoyarsk Polytechnic Institute from 1972 to 1977 and graduated with a degree in civil engineering
        1977-1978 - master of the trust "Promkhimstroy", Krasnoyarsk.
        1978-1979 - master, head of the site of the trust "Tuvinstroy", Kyzyl.
        1979-1984 - Senior superintendent, chief engineer, head of the construction department of SU-36 of the Achinskalyuminstroy trust, Achinsk.
        1984-1985 - Deputy manager of the trust "Sayanalyuminstroy", Sayanogorsk.
        1985-1986 - Manager of the trust "Sayantyazhstroy", Abakan.
        1986-1988 - Manager of the trust "Abakanvagonstroy", Abakan.
        1988-1989 - Second Secretary of the Abakan CC of the CPSU, Abakan.
        1989-1990 - Inspector of the Krasnoyarsk Regional Committee of the CPSU, Krasnoyarsk.
        1990-1991 - Deputy Chairman of the State Committee of the RSFSR for Architecture and Construction, Moscow.
        1991 - Chairman of the Russian Rescue Corps, Moscow.
        1991 - Chairman of the State Committee of the RSFSR for Emergencies, Moscow.
        1991-1994 - Chairman of the State Committee of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management.
        1992 - appointed deputy head of the interim administration in the territory of North Ossetia and Ingushetia during the Ossetian-Ingush conflict [7].
        1993-2003 - Chairman of the National Commission of the Russian Federation for the International Decade of the United Nations for Disaster Reduction.
        1994-2012 - Minister of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management (At the same time, from January 10, 2000 to May 7, 2000 - Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation).
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        2. creak
          creak 26 December 2015 09: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          Find from 3 times in this biography military service, study at a military school, study at an academy or any military orientation.


          From three to four times you will not find in the biography of R. Tsalikov, from December 24 this year, who became First Shoigu no trace of a specialized military education, not a single day of military service.
          He is an economist by training, he followed Shoigu from the time he joined the Ministry of Emergencies, then Shoigu was the governor of the Moscow Region. - Tsalikov - vice-governor, Shoigu - minister, Tsalikov deputy. Minister of Defense.
          In December of this year, it probably became clear that it was absolutely impossible for Tsalikov to work fruitfully in the rank of simple deputy and on December 24 of this year. he would be appointed first deputy. Minister.
          Probably for great merit in strengthening the defense, Shoigu struck the rank of army general for his faithful ally ..
          So it became another commander in Russia more ..
          PS It seems that damned Serdyukovism is to blame here too ....
      5. staryivoin
        staryivoin 26 December 2015 17: 46 New
        +2
        Mr. General Markitan and the authors Rocket greetings from a graduate of the command faculty of the Academy of Internal Affairs (once this was what we were called) !!!
        The honor, history and dignity of the state today are valued much lower than the dollar rate and a piece of "good" land on the Moskva River embankment. When the Perm authorities closed my also native Perm KRYAK my heart tore to pieces. Now we have reached one of the most prestigious universities in the country whose name is Russia. But even before us it was said - "The mind cannot understand Russia ..." Well said, but under the next date of birth of the Strategic Missile Forces, another "wrong decision" of the Moscow "market people". Something like this. I still don’t believe that such a solution is the best.
    2. CHILD
      CHILD 25 December 2015 17: 29 New
      +3
      .... it is very difficult to understand how much the reorganization and merger procedure is necessary, etc., for each case, a lot of opinions and interests ... but in any case it should be taken carefully .... it’s not necessary to destroy it, but that in exchange for something worthwhile it is not always possible to get something ....
    3. Mikado
      Mikado 25 December 2015 17: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: kimyth1
      optimization eprst !!! in my Pikalev children's hospital is closed !!! population 23000 people !!! am

      Nearest in Boksitogorsk now? Sorry, old man .. No words ..
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 17: 44 New
      +2
      The Peter the Great Military Academy of Strategic Rocket Forces (Strategic Rocket Forces) will move from the center of Moscow to Balashikha, Moscow Region, in 2015, due to the impossibility of expanding and modernizing the premises and the educational facilities located in the historical buildings of the Academy.
      "We have already decided on the move - within a year the Strategic Missile Forces Academy will move to Balashikha. There it will be located on the basis of the Military Technical University of the Ministry of Defense."
      According to him, the problem lies in the fact that "the academy on the funds on which it is currently located in Moscow on Kitaygorodsky passage has no development prospects."
      "There are historical buildings, they cannot be rebuilt, but there is no free space. It is necessary to build a modern educational and material base, while it is not even possible to reconstruct classrooms there. At the same time, the territory in Balashikha has the prospect of development, there are free spaces. In addition, , the buildings of the university were erected relatively recently, they can be rebuilt, completed "
      1. Coconut Tima
        Coconut Tima 25 December 2015 19: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        "There are historical buildings, they cannot be rebuilt, but there are no free spaces. We need to build a modern educational and material base, while it is not even possible to reconstruct classrooms there. At the same time, the territory in Balashikha has a development perspective, there are free spaces.

        Indeed, maybe everything is much simpler? The leadership of the Academy is warm and comfortable to sit in their chairs in the center of Moscow and train cadets in antediluvian classrooms on foam mock-ups. But the Strategic Missile Forces are getting more and more new missiles and systems and you can’t drag them into the center of Moscow!
    5. novobranets
      novobranets 25 December 2015 17: 55 New
      +5
      The Ambulance Hospital was closed at us, emergency services were populated, the population is 350000. The topic is the same, do not be remembered by night — optimization is possible !!!
  2. Indifferent
    Indifferent 25 December 2015 17: 00 New
    +8
    I would advise the authors to write not here, but to the president !!!
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 25 December 2015 17: 24 New
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      Quote: indifferent
      I would advise the authors to write not here, but to the president !!!

      as I understand it, people are literate, so they already wrote where it should be ...
      I am sure, in this case, the FSB is in the know.

      So he writes in ...

      Realities are natural for today.
      1. Someone liked the building in Moscow .... But it’s not Serdyukov who is the Minister of Defense! Already incomprehensible.
      2. The Strategic Missile Forces Academy, probably, had few areas, and needed field territories, and preferably near the Academy ... There are some pluses in the new place. But what’s more important, squares or historical interiors, you need to think hard .... At least the churches put one after another in the same place - in a prayer place ... And what is worse than the Academy or the University? Who will answer ???
      3. The Strategic Missile Forces Academy is an object of the Ministry of Defense. People must learn and serve. who understand the meaning of the word "order". They shouldn't even argue ... This is especially offensive. - Anyone can offend someone who is strong and smart. (The strong will regret the poor, the smart will not mess with the fool)
      But the military man also has a memory and a keen sense of justice. - I remind this to the officials. There was no need to offend the Academy.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 25 December 2015 17: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: Sergey S.
        Realities are natural for today.

        Alas, this has gone since the "humpback" times. The new has not yet been built, and the old hastened to destroy.
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 17: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: indifferent
      I would advise the authors to write not here, but to the president !!!



      Not even the intervention of the FSB helped, for which the academy also trained specialists. ”
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 25 December 2015 17: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: indifferent
      I would advise the authors to write not here, but to the president !!!

      What for? Do you think he is not in the know?
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 25 December 2015 21: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Karabin
        Quote: indifferent
        I would advise the authors to write not here, but to the president !!!

        What for? Do you think he is not in the know?

        The question is not simple.
        Formally, he probably knows.
        But what knows is determined by those who reported.
        Two sides have their pros and cons.
        If the main component is military. - the move is lawful. And better away from Moscow temptations. closer to the Strategic Missile Forces.
        At one time, IPPE was created near the Obninsk NPP - it turned out perfectly. Although the specialists did not have to live in Moscow ...

        If the main component is educational, it would be better left in Moscow. So cadets have time in both Bolshoi and Taganka, the Tretyakov Gallery, and Poklonnaya ....
        So that when the children disperse to the duty stations, there is something to remember and something to be proud of ...

        Now, if the President read the comments on VO, there would be much more order in Russia !!!
        1. woron333444
          woron333444 26 December 2015 06: 16 New
          +1
          And all the hype raised because of the move from Moscow.
  3. bronik
    bronik 25 December 2015 17: 01 New
    +2
    It’s a difficult question, you won’t solve the issue. Emotions are understandable, but can there be a reason for moving? I don’t have a clear opinion yet. Shoigu is not a stool!
  4. KVIRTU
    KVIRTU 25 December 2015 17: 02 New
    +9
    "According to the long-term plan for the development of the university approved by the Minister of Defense," this very university is expelled from Moscow to the periphery ... For the sake of deriban a piece of land, the school is deprived of its teaching staff, material base ... Eh
  5. doework
    doework 25 December 2015 17: 26 New
    +2
    Looks like someone really liked a piece of land ... and when it comes to the selfish interests of bureaucrats and the appetites of the oligarchs - all decisions are forwarded through the government without any problems! They wanted to sneeze on the Strategic Missile Forces, Moscow Region, and Nuclear Forces .. they now need to share what they have not yet shared ..
  6. starchina pv
    starchina pv 25 December 2015 17: 30 New
    0
    future shots of the Strategic Missile Forces are ruining when they are still entering a course of normal education !!! ????
    1. woron333444
      woron333444 26 December 2015 06: 20 New
      +1
      The cadets will stretch out and learn faster here than in Moscow, but someone will not want to tear their ass away from Moscow. And the teachers will go, maybe not all. It’s crowded in Moscow, but there will be new modern buildings and the latest training base, but where to put it in Moscow?
  7. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 17: 32 New
    -3
    The shadow of Serdyukov also covered the Strategic Missile Forces Academy
  8. veksha50
    veksha50 25 December 2015 17: 48 New
    +2
    Hmm ... It seems to me that the slogan is in the air: "We will destroy the Strategic Missile Forces through the personnel training system" ...

    That is, again, sabotage is being implemented through the education system ...

    And after such ferdibodies, some comrades reproach other comrades who want the return of the Stalinist methods of governance ...

    Disruption of the educational process (and this will result in more than one year and one course) at the Strategic Missile Forces Academy is a sabotage of a pronounced nature, for a normal prosecutor and unnecessary evidence ...
  9. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 25 December 2015 17: 52 New
    -1
    Strange, this is a fact or a fake (who benefits?) Or an ass .... In any situation, we are waiting for comments from Mr. Shoigu, absolutely respected by me, I don’t think, and I don’t even doubt that this fact (stuffing) will not remain without reaction . I will follow !!!
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 25 December 2015 17: 57 New
    +9
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Why is all this being carried out, can anyone intelligently explain?

    Well, firstly, Balashikha is not Chukotka and not Oymyakon. Secondly, servicemen with stripes and without them took the oath. It may recall "... endure steadily ..." - and they still pay a lot of money for this. -and go to the duty station, which is easier. hi
    1. dauria
      dauria 25 December 2015 20: 16 New
      +2
      You need to say "Yes" - and go to the duty station - which is easier


      Those with stripes (and even the colonels) will spit on the service and will retire after service. (Sorry, generals, it seems, do not retire to death smile ) And many just find a place in another university. Why the hell should they get frustrated when they have a house, and families and friends in Moscow? Captains, majors (and at the academy it’s not even teachers, and not senior teachers) will go, where to go, and even with an increase smile ? But this will not be an academy, but an institution of the military school level (and so far something good will work out, and will it work out?)
  11. moskowit
    moskowit 25 December 2015 18: 01 New
    -2
    The Serdyukov case is alive and well! It's simple, "business is business"! What should I say? I just recently learned that the center of Moscow is the "patrimony" of Gutsiriev. And the stately building of the State Duma will soon be demolished. "Business is business, and nothing else ..."

    "... Moscow, March 11. The owner of the development companies Inteko and Mospromstroy, Mikhail Gutseriev, spoke about plans for the buildings of the State Duma and Federation Council in the center of Moscow. According to him, both buildings after the officials moved to the new parliamentary center in Mnevniki will be demolished.

    On the site of the State Duma, Gutseriev noted, a large modern hotel or shopping center will be built, and on the site of the Federation Council there will be housing ... "
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 25 December 2015 18: 05 New
    +2
    I ran on the Internet. Gentlemen, repeat my path, and, you will see who subscribed to the article and who the true author is. Shame, honestly (not within the meaning of the article, but about PLAGIATE). In general, it’s time for the administrator to decide on the comments of general schoolchildren on the forum. ADMIN, hear !!!
    1. quote
      quote 25 December 2015 19: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      I ran on the Internet. Gentlemen, repeat my path, and, you will see who subscribed to the article and who the true author is. Shame, honestly

      Wasn't it easier to write who signed the article? Than to "wish your neighbor" to do your "path" (wonderful, somehow).
      Well, okay, you still have time to think. Write without hesitation, if it's worth it. A puddle of air, do not bother.
  13. yuriy55
    yuriy55 25 December 2015 18: 06 New
    +2
    In the light of the tasks that are set before all the Strategic Missile Forces and the training of future commanders, it is difficult to imagine that it is possible to work out tactical tasks on the streets of Moscow or perform tasks of special training. Yes, if you want, the army should be trained not in mock-ups, but in the field. A.V.Suvorov therefore took Izmail because he trained the army not near Moscow ...
    Whoever has laid eyes on the ground in Moscow is not known to me. I know one thing firmly. Such megacities like Moscow should not be in Russia. Wrong environmental conditions. The maintenance of the port of five seas is too expensive. And with the name of Peter the Great, you can study in Novosibirsk and in Chita, where there is more space and less curious people ...
    what
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 25 December 2015 19: 47 New
      +2
      Following your logic, all universities should be evicted from cities. Geologists in the taiga, oil workers in the tundra, etc. And the bears will teach them. Moving to the periphery primarily affects the scientific staff. There are hardly any professors who will leave Moscow for Balashikha.
  14. Poplar505
    Poplar505 25 December 2015 18: 16 New
    +3
    Our king is good, but the boyars are bad! Maybe we’ll remove the pink glasses.
  15. KVIRTU
    KVIRTU 25 December 2015 18: 21 New
    +1
    Reminded.
    Pay attention to the architecture of educational buildings in the 1st minute!
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 25 December 2015 23: 17 New
      0
      What kind of people: "1 vote against."
      I gave the example of Dnepropetrovsk, when the teaching staff is dispersed, the educational and material base is destroyed, etc., and they are "against", that is. "for" such "transformations"?
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 December 2015 18: 31 New
    0
    Any conflict situations must be resolved so that no party is infringed. This is the main principle. It is very bad when conflicts of this kind are either not resolved or resolved only when you reach the presidential administration. And maybe someone knows better, only qualified personnel should suffer should not.
  17. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 25 December 2015 18: 33 New
    +4
    Any military man who honestly changes his place of service knows for sure that two crossings are equal to one fire.
    And this is only materially.
    In moral and psychological - just a pylypian.
    And if you think that the shake goes to the whole family, then all the willpower gets hammered and howls there plaintively.

    And then the move of a military educational institution.
    Plin, really some kind of stool ...
    I saw perfectly how the universities collapsed in this way.
    Moving military Bursa to a new place and leaving the quality of education and training of cadets and students at the same level is IMPOSSIBLE a priori.
    This is like an axiom that there is no point in proving.

    - crushing of the educational process,
    - separation of teachers and students to any rubbish not related to study.
    - full discord with the material and training base.
    - the inevitable outflow of teaching staff.
    - a fig cloud of other rubbish, repairing from the problems of installing educational models and ending with living conditions.
    -and ... violation of the CONSTITUTIONS and TRADITIONS. Those. the SPIRIT of a military institution is changing. And this is the most nightmare pylypets with a pretzel according to the tonsils.
    Want to destroy the power of a military unit? Destroy her SPIRIT and TRADITION.
    It always has been.

    In such matters, the first place should be not optimization issues, but DEFENSE issues.
    It is necessary to choose the lesser of evils, and not row all under one comb.

    As a result, it will be a new educational institution, just "in places" very similar to the old one, but ... not the same.
    It takes several years for the educational process to return to normal.
    Eheh ...
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 25 December 2015 18: 45 New
      +5
      So my parents burned "to the ground" 5 times, and I shoot 2 times. My older sister went to six schools, and I was lucky. I'm at three ...
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 25 December 2015 22: 04 New
        0
        Quote: moskowit
        So my parents burned "to the ground" 5 times, and I shoot 2 times. My older sister went to six schools, and I was lucky. I'm at three ...

        Similarly, Nikolai Ivanovich.
        hi
        First with the Parents, then himself.
    2. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 26 December 2015 03: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: Aleks tv
      In such matters, the first place should be not optimization issues, but DEFENSE issues.
      It is necessary to choose the lesser of evils, and not row all under one comb.

      As a result, it will be a new educational institution, just "in places" very similar to the old one, but ... not the same.
      It takes several years for the educational process to return to normal.
      Eheh ...

      Koment was written somehow because of the blues ... I remembered how my bursa was first redone, then ... destroyed.
      It’s all wrong, wrong.
      You can’t joke with the legacy.
      1. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 26 December 2015 10: 00 New
        +1
        Mine (founded in 1953, in fact, the roots go back to the 30s) was first renamed - KVIUS (Kiev Military Institute of Management and Communications).
        Further it is simpler: KVIUS some, give part of the territory, combine with the school of communication, close nafig (in 1999).
        They deprived of the name - something had already left, authority was lost, and it went downhill ...
  18. 52
    52 25 December 2015 18: 43 New
    +4
    The dispersal of the Arbat Military District continues? Quite an option. And if the Military Man does not agree to leave his home from Moscow, who is he? The very idea of ​​withdrawing military universities from the "Target No. 1" -Capital is quite correct, it is not only security, but also screening superfluous, "sucking on the sovereign's financial tit", freeloaders. How many unnecessary "shelupony" in the capital's universities, occupying, nevertheless, quite monetary positions. ! And one more thought, but-IMHO, of course. Within the walls of the university there could be installed means of providing different information to not friends at all, the place is lured. Sometimes it is easier to build a new house than to bring out bedbugs in the old one.
  19. moskowit
    moskowit 25 December 2015 18: 55 New
    0
    Of course, I am a naive person and I consider the historical center of Moscow a national treasure (well, that’s how I am), and apparently I don’t fit into modern realities. But the one who expresses the polar position, let him explain why he stands for the demolition of the remarkable Moscow building?
    1. bronik
      bronik 25 December 2015 19: 12 New
      +1
      What is more in the article, selfish interest or patriotism? Cried about your bitter share or really hurt? Well, of course, historical monuments are worthless to demolish. We are not dill! You can’t chop everything.
  20. Mayor_U
    Mayor_U 25 December 2015 19: 15 New
    0
    Shaw for a panic I do not understand. The Strategic Missile Forces will not fall apart due to the transfer of the Academy to Balashikha. The fact that they could organize the move through one place is completely in our spirit. And the move itself is absolutely correct. And teachers and workers who want to live in the center of Maskva and have the right to receive permanent housing in it are dissatisfied. And no more than that dear formuchane !!! And by the way, FSB officers who interceded also live in jokes in Moscow. But the destruction of a hospital in a single-industry town and the relocation of a military university should not be confused.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 26 December 2015 00: 31 New
      0
      Balashikha is not such a bearish corner. The urban district of Balashikha (a population of more than 400 thousand, it is larger than the population of many capitals of the federation subjects) borders on the city of federal significance Moscow and, in fact, is its continuation, like Khimki and a number of other cities of the Moscow region.
  21. moskowit
    moskowit 25 December 2015 20: 30 New
    0
    And again I ask those who, for the destruction of the center of Moscow (True, meadow for the sake of enriching the family, delivered a catastrophic, irreplaceable blow to the architectural appearance of Moscow) to show their position!
  22. moskowit
    moskowit 25 December 2015 20: 45 New
    +1
    Silent, great power! Is it really not clear! If they sell and ruin Moscow, then they will destroy the rest, not even blink and sneeze!
  23. Barakuda
    Barakuda 25 December 2015 21: 30 New
    0
    And why are everyone so nervous from the place of residence of the teaching officers? I took the oath - do it! Formerly for such questions .. a check from Komsomol, the CPSU and the army.
    And somehow the army of the USSR really threatened ALL, and not childishly. And now the nurse dismissed.
    I’ll tell you by the example of my father - I was born, he was after a combined arms school, I went to first grade, he was ALREADY a major, AFTER 7 years after graduation! Only probably there was a fee, for 7 years - 4-RE MOVEMENT and bald head! And not for 100-200 km, but to rattle by train. Vdadikavkaz - Desna - Alchevsk-Kramatorsk-Kiev. hi
  24. Ostwest
    Ostwest 26 December 2015 00: 28 New
    +3
    180 years in Moscow there was enough space, but now it's over? Will the next entertainment complex be built on the site of the Academy? Or will they break the park? Moscow State University Lomonosov is time to look for a new place. You can build a GOOD shopping center. Who needs science, if they teach young people not to think, but to sort out options?
    If somewhere the liberals no longer eat, only not in Moscow. It's a pity!!! So Russia has not yet found the pace needed for development and lives on with old baggage. There is no thought, how can we arrange the future? So we disperse the Academy, where the thoughts come from.
    There will be no such respected Academy in Balashikha. There is a Russian proverb that moving is equivalent to a fire. The Stool affair lives on. The smoker was alive, now he took up the helicopters, and his people are counting the profits from the vacant seat on Solyanka.
  25. Emerald
    Emerald 26 December 2015 01: 04 New
    +2
    I do not understand why it was impossible to start transferring the academy from Moscow when ALL squares are ready in Balashikha, otherwise, apart from the ephemeral "development prospects", there are no advantages from the move. Yes, there is an adjoining territory for placing layouts. Do you have these new layouts and training stands? Even if there are not enough classrooms, and instead of classes, cadets have to unpack the transported property of the academy and equip the existing classrooms. All this reminds me very much of the urgent move of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense during the conflict with Georgia in 2008. In general, as an employee of one of the defense enterprises (already very few in Moscow), it is very disappointing to see how the capital has turned from an industrial center into a swamp for office plankton.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 December 2015 04: 25 New
    +1
    The problem is that not having prepared everything for placement in a new place,
    pulled the school from the old place.
    It seems to me that just someone did not meet
    in the time allotted for the construction of new infrastructure.
    And now everyone suffers because of this.
  27. Cartman
    Cartman 26 December 2015 13: 37 New
    0
    I do not understand something? 195 years of the Academy of Strategic Rocket Forces? Are we chasing Napolen with nuclear missiles?
  28. 4ekist
    4ekist 26 December 2015 22: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Is the withdrawal of the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Academy from the "expensive land in the center of Moscow" - a burp of Serdyukovism in the Army?
    Why is all this being carried out, can anyone intelligently explain?
    Or already, the received monetary benefit from the sale of 11 hectares in the center of Moscow, overshadowed the mind of ensuring the state’s defense capability?

    And in Rostov-on-Don, the Strategic Missile Forces Institute was closed and now there is a school for some junior aviation specialists and a whole bunch of "horns and hooves" offices.