Kiev again accuses the DPR of "ceasing a ceasefire", breaking the ceasefire first

The representative of the press center of the so-called "anti-terrorist operation" in the Donbass, Anton Mironovich, said that the representatives of the DPR and the LPR were allegedly ready to break the truce. This is a truce, which was achieved on Tuesday 22 December during the New Year and Christmas holidays. In Kiev, they assert that the DPR and the LPR are preparing to “provoke a new conflict, violating all agreements.” The TV channel "112 Ukraine" cites a statement by Mironovich, who claims that the breakdown is already fixed:

Militants (as Kiev calls the armed forces of the people's republics - note “VO”) are trying to thwart any agreements, they have already foiled them completely, completely. We appealed to the OSCE to make public the facts of cease-fire violation.

In addition, Mironovich assures that the Ukrainian side itself "fully respects the truce." But the DNI has completely different information. The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic reports that the Ukrainian security forces conducted another mortar shelling of the settlement of Spartak. The shelling was carried out from the village of Skilled, controlled by the Ukrainian security forces.

Donetsk News Agencyreferring to the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, he writes that Kiev is trying to accuse the republic of seizing villages near the line of contact from the Ukrainian side with the sole purpose of justifying the buildup of a forceful presence in the region and preparation for new provocations.

Comments

[OlegV]

how else to convey to them ....

[kebeskin]

Shaw again ??? Yes, so it was clear to everyone. What will provocation do. Accuse New Russia of disrupting the Minsk agreements. Until the next and final lyuley they will not give the situation will not change

[oleg-gr]

Shit and chatter a question. And in a verbal fog to turn around their affairs and the destruction of "separatists" to prepare ..

[Coconut Tima]

"Kiev again blames the DPR" And not only the DPR. Tymchuk dragged on "old songs about the main thing"
A unit of the armed forces of the Russian Federation entered the village of Kominternovo, Donetsk region, together with a reinforced "motorized rifle company" of militants. (UNIAN)

[Rostov Papa]

The contract with our "partners" is that the tongue ....

In light of the apparent impasse on agreements related to overlapping free trade zones, Russia recently announced that as soon as Ukraine’s free trade zone with the EU opens, Ukraine’s free trade zone with Russia will close. And it would seem to anyone who cares, especially those who are European-integrated, but then suddenly a funny butt started, demanding that the FTA with Russia be preserved in addition to the FTA with the EU. Such a blatant multi-vectority amid cries about Russian aggression. Klimkin even said that under the law, Russia cannot cancel an FTZ.
- But you can't answer "Because gladiolus?"
“Why can't I?” I can!
But this is at the level of white noise. But what really smiled is how the EU representatives began to embed the discussion and negotiations around the FTZ into the format of the Minsk agreements

It’s just some kind of holiday - not only that, in the Minsk agreements not a single point has yet been fulfilled, they are also trying to unilaterally add additional and obviously impracticable conditions there.
Actually, both sides have previously noted independent interpretations of the clauses of the Minsk agreements, but this case, as they say, is out of the ordinary. Moscow reacted to this with some surprise, since no significant changes with the Minsk process were expected until the new year (all negotiations failed over and over again against the background of the warming up front in Donbass), and here on New Year's Eve such a "surprise" arrived. It is clear that the Kremlin is unlikely to make any concessions on this issue and the FTA with Ukraine will be cut off after the New Year.

This episode once again clearly shows that against the background of the Minsk impasse, agreements can fearlessly include not only independent interpretations of the already signed clauses, but generally various "leftists" who have nothing to do with Minsk. Well, what do you think, what are the prospects for such an agreement with such approaches? It is clear that none. There is nothing surprising in the fact that the DPR has once again stated that the junta's amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine do not take into account the DPR's opinion at all and violate the Minsk agreements? But for the first time or what? You have to understand. that we will meet the anniversary of the Minsk agreements with about the same problems associated with their implementation.

[cniza]

These villains will answer for everything and then let them not rely on amnesty, pardon and condescension.

[79807420129]

Yes, December 31, 2015 Minsk-2 ends, during which time the junta has accumulated fat and after the New Year can go on the attack, while accusing LDNR and Russia of provocation, how many more people should die to stop the junta?

[Lord of the Sith]

As for provocations, last night there were a couple of arrivals strong and at night 2 times every hour until 3 in the morning, then I fell asleep.


I want to show you the price of how we live here, so to speak.
Everything is paid in the Central Bank of the DPR.
Product prices:
Bread 16 rub.
Egg 58 rub.
Milk 1l. 38 rub
Cottage cheese 150 rub.
Cheese 350 rub.
Rast.maslo 1l. 36 rub
Meat 300 rub.
Salo 250 rub.
Carrot 30 rub.
Cabbage 22 rub.
Potato 16 rub. (Kursk, Voronezh)
Onion 25 rub.
Garlic 200 rub.
Herring 200 rub.
Hake (ice cream.) 280 rub.
Utilities:
Electricity 100 kW 35 rub.
Hot water 1 cube 35 rub
Gas per person 7,79 rubles.
Cold Water 1 cube $ 5,60
The rent is 196 rubles.
Trash 37 rub.

[ML-334]

At prices for products that are almost the same as the Urals, your bread is cheaper.

[avt]

Quote: ML-334

At prices for products that are almost the same as the Urals, your bread is cheaper.

Thanks for the information!
I wanted to compare the price tag with the Moscow one and already started to write ..... however, really

Quote: cniza

What kind of income do you have?

then you can talk about

Quote: cniza

Can I live at such prices?

especially if not this

Quote: Sith Lord

Good question. Pensions from 1800 rubles, the bulk of 2200-3600. Salaries are also from 2000 rubles, mainly 4000-7000.

the main thing ! Donetsk is not even a front-line - a front-line city! So it makes sense to compare price tags with Russia AT LEAST when the militia reaches the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the establishment of a sustainable peace and the elimination of destroyed infrastructure, and this is at least two to three years of intensive work in peaceful conditions , under the optimistic scenario. Yes, and his own Ramzan is needed, who will not be afraid to buy the minister sent to him for theft with an aluminum bat, so much so that later it was necessary to pretend an accident. it is necessary to start working now in Rostov-on-Don and the Moscow region, well, wherever this regional party trash hangs around, trying to warm his hands on human misfortune. As you should remember that one of the main functions in the Cheka was originally laid down - "to combat sabotage"!

[lis-ik]

And much cheaper than in Moscow!

[avt]

Quote: lis-ik

And much cheaper than in Moscow!

In terms of products, depending of course on the area - there are crazy places for the "rich" - on Leninsky, Kutuzovsky avenues, for example, and beyond the third ring the prices are really comparable at the lower level, cabbage in "Attack" was completely recently, potatoes 12r with kopecks in bulk, but quality .... , in 14-20 r kg you can take a decent Tambov. For fish - I do not take ice cream - one ice, Caspian, Azovian are brought to the market. Well, you can take a carp for 180 r kg and clean it, so that 210r per kg is removed, the meat is also fed on the market from the Tambovskys, more expensive, but the quality - I make dumplings exclusively myself for a month right away .Kommunalku I will not compare for the reasons stated above by me - Donetsk front-line city.

[cniza]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

What kind of income do you have? Can I live at such prices?

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: cniza

What kind of income do you have? Can I live at such prices?

Good question. Pensions from 1800 rubles, the bulk of 2200-3600. Salaries are also from 2000 rubles, mainly 4000-7000.

[cniza]

Yes, you don’t really take it easy, just barely barely survive, hold on.

[Gani]

almost one to one (Kemerovo) electricity is 6 times more expensive for our products, water is twice the rent for 10)

[evge-malyshev]

[quote = Lord of the Sith]

I want to show you the price of how we live here, so to speak.

Along with the prices, it would not be bad to show the "pine-cones" on which you live.

[Tiger4]

You live well! In our city, in St. Petersburg, fat is 350-450 rubles, oil is 58 ... and so on, bread is more expensive than 25 rubles, cheese is more expensive UNEVERWAY! vegetables, I agree! herring is the same.

[A-Sim]

It is very difficult to parasitize without a donor, so they never want to "separate".
Who will feed them?

[askort154]

From the fact that you will call me a nonsense, I will not stop lying.
The mentality of Ukrainians.

[sever.56]

Yes, the junta does not need peace. Now they justify everything by the war with the "separatists", from the increase in tariffs for housing and communal services, the rise in prices for food, medicines, gas, electricity and ending with a pension tax, which is not found in any other country in the world. With their hatred of the "Russian aggressor" they try to rally the crumbling civil society. As soon as peace really comes, people will immediately begin to understand that their enemy is not Donbass and Russia, but the sucking bugs that rule them.

[barclay]

Kuev accuses the DPR and LPR of exactly what he does.

[L. A. A.]

After such accusations, you understand that the Ukrainian authorities somewhere again coined.

[B.T.V.]

Quote: L.A. A.

After such accusations, you understand that the Ukrainian authorities somewhere again coined.

No, they are just gathering, information preparation is underway.
Compared to the "Skodas of the Ukrainian authorities", slippers dipped in a cat are an easy prank.

[EvgNik]

What a teacher is, so are the students.

[Mountain shooter]

How Donbass was lucky with a warm winter. Nobody would be able to advance on the black earth there in such weather. That's APU with anger and bullets. Cooked, prepared the offensive, and everything hung. It takes ten days of frost so that everything grasps, and the clock is ticking, the money is running out ...

[rotmistr60]

These maydanutyh only the earth will stop. These will not calm down until they die out as a species.

[dchegrinec]

Kiev is reminiscent of some drug addict who does not give rest to anyone around him and just has problems! And if you hide him in a correctional institution, then everyone will feel right at once! How can I make these couriers sit on their bunks? Maybe it's easier blackmail the United States, wrinkle them with terrible force, so that they merge Poroshenko and co.

[barclay]

The representative of the press center of the so-called "anti-terrorist operation" in the Donbass, Anton Mironovich, said that representatives of the DPR and LPR are allegedly ready to disrupt the truce
Ready to break or disrupt? Of course, we are ready - in response to violations by the junta! They are ready to defend themselves.

[Zeppelin ml.]

These mutual accusations "in disruption" have already become the talk of the town. "You started first ... No, you ..."
The Xoxles write that the regulars of the RF Armed Forces have entered the Cominternovo. DNR says (with reference to the words of local) that the APU fired at Spartak. This information ping pong never ends.

[atalef]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

These mutual accusations "in disruption" have already become the talk of the town. "You started first ... No, you ..."

in general (in my opinion) the problem is completely different, namely the extension of sanctions by Europe and the tightening of America.
The GDP thought that against the background of Syria (and conversations on it) the position of the West and America in the Crimea and the Donbass would soften and sanctions would be, if not extended, then definitely not tightened
But GDP made it clear that there is no shampoo in one bottle. And the position in Ukraine has remained the same.
Here is the result.

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

The Xoxles write that the regulars of the RF Armed Forces have entered the Cominternovo. DNR says (with reference to the words of local) that the APU fired at Spartak. This information ping pong never ends

Aggravation around DLNR. Now it is beneficial for everyone and Ukraine, including default on the nose, the best time for another war, which distracts public opinion and gives a chance for money.
So that WAR TO BE.
So see me.

[dvina71]

Quote: atalef

GDP thought

It’s a big mistake to think that you know what the GDP was thinking ..

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

Aggravation around DLNR. now everyone benefits

It is beneficial, first of all, to various Poroshenko (Valtsman) and Groisman. Apparently, Poroshenko went to Israel for this and received a "carte blanche" from his masters to start a new assault on murder and destruction in the Donbass.

[atalef]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

These mutual accusations "in disruption" have already become the talk of the town. "You started first ... No, you ..."

in general (in my opinion) the problem is completely different, namely the extension of sanctions by Europe and the tightening of America.
The GDP thought that against the background of Syria (and conversations on it) the position of the West and America in the Crimea and the Donbass would soften and sanctions would be, if not extended, then definitely not tightened
But GDP made it clear that there is no shampoo in one bottle. And the position in Ukraine has remained the same.
Here is the result.

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

The Xoxles write that the regulars of the RF Armed Forces have entered the Cominternovo. DNR says (with reference to the words of local) that the APU fired at Spartak. This information ping pong never ends

Aggravation around DLNR. Now it is beneficial for everyone and Ukraine, including default on the nose, the best time for another war, which distracts public opinion and gives a chance for money.
So that WAR TO BE.
So see me.

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

Kiev again accuses the DPR of "ceasing a ceasefire", breaking the ceasefire first

Already a new guilty one would be found, for a change, Australia, as an option, or penguins in Antarctica (from the Russian polar station) ... Tired of - one thing, but because - nothing original. And so, they themselves violated and ... blamed the penguins ... Until they guess, until they figure out the plausibility of such a statement ... You look, maybe your mind would flash ... sparklingly ...

[cergey51046]

For every blow to the DNI, you need to respond with a blow to Kiev.

[McLuha-MacLeod]

Utilities:
Electricity 100 kW 35 rub.
Hot water 1 cube 35 rub
Gas per person 7,79 rubles.
Cold Water 1 cube $ 5,60
The rent is 196 rubles.
Trash 37 rub.

And what? They live normally and will never become Ukraine again

[Ruswolf]

I don’t know who and how secretly thinks .... I think that while Kiev screams, they’re not afraid of anything. Now, when he begins to be silent .... then, it will be necessary to seriously approach his silence.
Fear the dog is not the one that barks
Now they simply remind the EU and the USA so that they are not forgotten. and it’s not surprising who needs a mongrel which, except for barking, cannot do anything. The Ukrainian question is not fashionable in Europe today! They took another parasite to themselves.

[press officer]

Quote: coconut tim

"Kiev again blames the DPR" And not only the DPR. Tymchuk dragged on "old songs about the main thing"
A unit of the armed forces of the Russian Federation entered the village of Kominternovo, Donetsk region, together with a reinforced "motorized rifle company" of militants. (UNIAN)

so why do we go in there? would write that we threw them with calibers! Everything is believable!
and didn’t the dill terminators kill the Russian army? not? Fuck ... and I always think, who in Syria is fighting IS? all have already been destroyed 10 times ...
Freaks prepare provocations!

[BOB044]

Putin said we will not give up the people of Novorossia to be torn to pieces by Bandera. And Kiev understands this from the silence and the shkodit. And so they are afraid of going right into Novorossia. One word they are bastards.

[aszzz888]

The old tale of the main thing!

[Papapg]

Quote: Sergey Vladimirovich

Kiev again accuses the DPR of "ceasing a ceasefire", breaking the ceasefire first

Again, these are just words and a reportage, and all infa only from the words of a man with a gun from Surgut. In our age of high technologies, it is very easy to place a camera "along the front", so to speak, blue ones on the left, and red ones on the right, or vice versa, and each of us will be able to see firsthand in the stereo sound, 50 percent of who started first. But no, they will not do this, because the truth will come out. Ukrainians say one thing, we say another thing and try to believe it, but the truth is somewhere in the middle, I think so. But apart from words, I also want video recording, like a traffic cop.

[Stinger]

We appealed to the OSCE with a request to disclose ceasefire violations.

The letter to the OSCE, apparently, is this: we are peacefully firing mortars, and here the DNR men will jump out and let's break the truce!

[ibu355yandex.ru]

Khokhlov has nothing to do, no work, no family to feed, so don’t go to your grandmother — be a new war on Donetsk and Lugansk lands! And Putin, as always, is to blame, who, even in a dream, violates the Minsk agreements!

[anfil]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Quote: cniza

What kind of income do you have? Can I live at such prices?

Good question. Pensions from 1800 rubles, the bulk of 2200-3600. Salaries are also from 2000 rubles, mainly 4000-7000.

Yes ... income is still scanty. If the junta were left alone (which is unlikely), then with the development of production, infrastructure and the market, salaries with pensions would increase.

[Al_oriso]

I don’t understand why Russia behaves so modestly. All of Europe, the USA, and the whole world (with rare exceptions) believe that Russians are fighting in the Donbas. For this reason, sanctions were imposed and the country was expelled from all sorts of organizations, deprived of the word. That is, the punishment is already there and it is precisely because Russia is waging a war. But Russia proves that it is not fighting. But no one believes and continues to blame and punish.

So, either Russia is really fighting, or it has the right to at least protect the Donbass from shelling from the Ukrainian side. This will simplify the situation.

[Stariknv]

Go through Kiev and Donbass, the answer will be obvious who fired on whom.