Germany exports its air defense system from the Turkish territory

Turkish News Agency Anadolu writes that Germany has taken anti-aircraft missile systems belonging to it from Turkey. The ship, on which the Patriot air defense system was loaded, departed from the Turkish port of Iskenderun and headed for the shores of the European Union to transport complexes to Germany.

The German Patriot air defense system (two batteries), as well as 250 military personnel of the army of the Federal Republic of Germany, were on Turkish territory under a special mandate. The German military group operated in the province of Karamanmarash, located in southeastern Turkey a few dozen kilometers from the border with Syria.

Official Berlin announced that the mandate for a mission in Turkey ends in January 2016. Apparently, it was decided to proceed in advance with the coagulation of the ZRK batteries.

It should be recalled that not only German anti-aircraft batteries are located in Turkey. It is also the batteries of the Netherlands (later the Dutch air defense systems were replaced by Spanish) and the United States (two from each state). These air defense systems were deployed under the program of NATO assistance to Turkey in connection with the "danger posed by Syria." NATO decided that Turkey needed such assistance in January 2013.

Apparently, today in Berlin, vague doubts about who is threatening the real one have been stung up by everyone: is Syria Turkey or vice versa? ..

Comments

[Ami du peuple]

It seems that NATO members are downright insistently inviting Russia to strike at Turkey, leaving the Turks without modern air defense. Recently, the Americans withdrew their fighters, now the Germans and the Dutch have taken the Patriots ..

[Fidget]

or vice versa, they are completely sure that this will not happen ...
like "ahh ... so nothing will happen here ?! nuuuu ... then we fold"

[GRAY]

Quote: Fidget

or vice versa, they are completely sure that this will not happen ...

Or do not want to get involved, if that.

[sa-zz]

Quote: Fidget

or vice versa, they are completely sure that this will not happen ...

Or not at all confident in the adequacy of Erdogash’s policies

[Phantom Revolution]

We are waiting for a provocation from Turkey, and the rest of the riffraff will be, as it were, not aisles.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

An interesting turn of events or so everything coincided successfully. . . I doubt it. So Germany did not consider it all good, from the evil one.

[Yura]

Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

Interesting turn of events or

The storm is approaching, the rats smell it first, they ran, first the United States fired its planes, now Germany. Soon they will scratch everyone else.

[Fidget]

yes, good! GDP with Shoigu and Lavrov are not impulsive boys. in which case they will simply crush politically and most likely will play the gambit in response from 1877 ... but who will be the pawn?

Recep seems to be a good and fair man, but something is too much played. apparently, 12 years in big politics have cracked the corps ...

[Al_oriso]

It seems that the NATO forces are insistently inviting Russia to attack Turkey, leaving the Turks without modern air defense.

It is possible that Russia advised outsiders to leave the premises.

[RBLip]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Seem to be

URAAAA! and throwing bonnets into the sky ... it’s nothing like nichrome. the Bundes' mandate ended, they curled up. and instead of them, any other NATO six this pair of batteries (well, whoever has them) will put.
zadolbali, cheers patriots ....

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: RBLip

zadolbali, cheers patriots ...

See the root: Indeed, it seems that they are inviting. First, they praise our army, then they’ve screwed up with the aircraft themselves (the Bundesfer), now they are launching the air defense systems. This is against the background of the downed SU-24. Somehow they insistently (and suspiciously) hint that we should seriously bite with the Turks. What is it for?

[RBLip]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Look at the root

I agree ... first I see it, then I write ... I quote about the air defense systems of other NATO countries located in Turkey - subsequently the Dutch air defense systems were replaced by the Spanish. and already passed infa that the Germans will be replaced by Italians. this planned replacement. let's still assume that you shouldn't look for a black cat in a black room ... but "strength" and "power" and "instant" reaction to a downed plane is our top already showed. we replied ... with sanctions. and our PR specialists are really great. From the very fact that the Turks attacked our plane, public opinion inside the country with the help of the media was skillfully shifted in search of a navigator. Thank God they saved the guy. but personally, I was sitting at the TV set (I try not to watch, but at this moment I think I can) and felt more and more that I was being fooled. there were NO our answers. and when I heard about the sanctions, I realized we were once again shown our place. and after a recent GDP conference ...

[armata37]

Good evening! I have a question: what actions would you take on the day when our Su-24 was shot down in relation to Turkey? what would you do?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: armata37

what would you do?

At least a complete gap in ALL diplomatic relations with the mining of the border strip of Turkey and Syria. This is in addition to the sanctions adopted. Well, the termination of the contract for the construction of nuclear power plants, the economic feasibility of which is equal to zero. Payback too long (50 years).

[theadenter]

To mine, you need to have access to the border. "All diplomatic relations", as far as I understand, are broken only in a state of war.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: theadenter

To mine - you need to have access to the border.

Mining is carried out from the air.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: RBLip

and after a recent GDP conference ...

Yeah, tears.

[armata37]

And why do you have tears after watching the recent conference of the president?

[Stas157]

Quote: RBLip

but personally, I was sitting at the TV set (I try not to watch, but at this moment I think I can) and felt more and more that I was being fooled. there were NO our answers. and when I heard about the sanctions, I realized we were once again shown our place. and after a recent GDP conference ...

I agree with you! When I tried to say this 2 weeks ago, they threw me with minuses! And claims, but what do you want war? Gentlemen, no, I do not want war! I live comfortably without war! But you need to defend yourself! Or do I not understand something in this life? Well, one plane was bombed, we didn’t answer, but if the second one was shot down? And if ten? From whom will we answer? We all do not want war here! Or maybe him ... Let the pilots fall!

[armata37]

Well, since you and I here on the site understand that it’s as if we were specially invited there (to Turkey), then surely our General Staff also understands this, which means that we most likely will not play according to NATO rules.

[Eugene-Eugene]

now the Germans and the Dutch have taken the Patriots

And when did the red-fighters succeed?

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

now the Germans and the Dutch have taken the Patriots

And when did the red-fighters succeed?

The article also indicates that they were replaced by the Spaniards.

[Juborg]

There is some kind of game going on. The United States withdrew its Patriots two months ago, under the pretext of modernizing them, now the Germans are doing the same. Queue for the Netherlands. What's next? An invitation to a war with Turkey, because with Ukraine it is not yet possible to drag us into a regional war of survival.

[evil partisan]

what is suspected, chtoli? Or is it just rotation?

[Lelek]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

what is suspected, chtoli? Or is it just rotation?

Just the pragmatic Germans felt that Russia had firmly locked the air border of Syria with Turkey, their presence there was unnecessary and unnecessary costs for the maintenance of its air defense in turretchina.

[shans2]

ordinary "POINT U" easily destroy these batteries at the border, and reach the nearest airfields in Turkey directly from Latakia

[Mercenary]

"Apparently, today in Berlin everyone was plagued by vague doubts about who is threatening whom real: Syria, Turkey or vice versa? .."
No need to reassure yourself, the Germans just realized that the amers' vaunted "patriots" of the S-400 are no match, and actually shooting down a Russian plane under cover is an empty idea.

[Rostovchanin]

Nothing torments anyone. Some removed the others (the article states that the Netherlands batteries were also replaced). Turkey is for the West, now it’s such a splinter in Russia. It’s not scary, but unpleasant. And the west will use it to the maximum. Another played card of foreign policy, which the world gathers on more than one deck.

[Pirogov]

? One correct analytical and adequate comment, !!!!!

[Aksakal_07]

in Berlin, everyone was tormented by vague doubts as to who was threatening anyone: Syria, Turkey, or vice versa

Another reason seems more likely to me: the Germans are afraid of being hit by a retaliatory strike by the Russian air forces in Syria after the next provocation of the Turks against our aircraft bombing the DAIShevtsy.

[knn54]

But, at the same time:
- Italy intends to deploy Patriot air defense in Turkey.
-Spain, extend after January 1, 2016 (expiration dates of the previous agreement).
- Denmark sends warships to protect Turkey from Russian missiles and to suppress the operation of the S-400 complex.
-Germany is deploying Tornado aircraft at a military base in Incirlik to conduct reconnaissance flights in the region.
-USA will continue to maintain the USS Donald Cook naval ship equipped with Aegis air defense systems and Tomahawk missiles in the region. This ship is able to protect Turkey in the event of an attack with ballistic missiles ...

[aleks 62 next]

.... This ship is able to protect Turkey in the event of an attack with ballistic missiles ...

... But this ochchchchchen is doubtful ....

[Akmalinin]

This ship cannot protect itself

[Ze Kot]

Quote: knn54

- Denmark sends warships to protect Turkey from Russian missiles and to suppress the operation of the S-400 complex.

Do they have such ships?

[79807420129]

Quote: knn54

But, at the same time:
- Italy intends to deploy Patriot air defense in Turkey.
-Spain, extend after January 1, 2016 (expiration dates of the previous agreement).
- Denmark sends warships to protect Turkey from Russian missiles and to suppress the operation of the S-400 complex.
-Germany is deploying Tornado aircraft at a military base in Incirlik to conduct reconnaissance flights in the region.
-USA will continue to maintain the USS Donald Cook naval ship equipped with Aegis air defense systems and Tomahawk missiles in the region. This ship is able to protect Turkey in the event of an attack with ballistic missiles ...

As Donald Cook defended Ukraine last year, the entire Black Sea saw and neighing for a whole month later. Minuses are not mine.

[Diana Ilyina]

Quote: 79807420129

As Donald Cook defended Ukraine last year, the entire Black Sea saw and neighing for a whole month later. Minuses are not mine.

Vlad, although I am not a military expert, but it seems to me the same that somehow this "Donald DuckCook ", in my opinion he will not have time to defend himself in the event of a real nix! He has no luck with this region, and" Moscow "is probably not armed with spillikins!

[Starik72]

Apparently in Germany, it began to reach the point that they had no contact with anyone. Let's look at further actions of the NATO alliance.

[Yuyuka]

The Germans, like no one else, imagine what the possessed Fuhrer (read - the sultan) is capable of and no desire to put its citizens in defense of the "partner" who can at any time put in an "uncomfortable position" in Germany, because in words "we are united" not to the same extent!

[Gormenghast]

And Germany is right; there is nothing to protect terrorists and their accomplices. Moreover, no one threatens Turkey except Erdogan.

[aszzz888]

Yeah, it's NATO, like a swan, cancer and pike!

[Pereira]

It is useless to guess. True motives, we still do not know.

[Sergey-72]

There will be a rotation to another NATO member state, and the Germans will send their patriots for modernization.

[Tagan]

Quote: Ami du peuple

It seems that NATO members are downright insistently inviting Russia to strike at Turkey, leaving the Turks without modern air defense. Recently, the Americans withdrew their fighters, now the Germans and the Dutch have taken the Patriots ..

everything acquired by overwork in an armful, while the Russians did not accidentally abuse)))

[Olegater]

Well, if the Germans dumped, then this is not good. As correctly said Ami du peuple Amer .. Ikos has already piled farther from this place called Turkey. Only they (the west) do not invite Russia to strike at this place, but save their jo ..... apparently they have information that irresponsible Turks at the command of macaque from lice will aggravate the situation and go much further than a downed Russian plane. And it is possible for the Turks to end in serious trouble. It must be recalled that in Turkey there are not only German anti-aircraft batteries. These are also the batteries of the Netherlands (subsequently the Dutch air defense systems were replaced by Spanish) and the United States (two from each state) Well, it's just a bargaining chip in geopolitics and a little reassurance for a fart. The main thing is that there would not be a state of emergency in our territory. By the way, I’ve just read about the penetration of sabotage from 404 into Russia. So my opinion is that they will try to coordinate the crimes again, as last time, they will only act more sharply.

[gergi]

NATO is a shobla of cowardly scum. The crowd of any weak frantic stomp
will be.

[Belousov]

Here you need to understand - they are taking out irrevocably or will there be a replacement? If the replacement is unclear why the noise was raised? If it is irrevocable, then at the direction of NATO or arbitrarily? The fact that Nato gave the order to withdraw arms from Turkey, I personally believe with difficulty. And the Germans have a thin intestine for a will.

[Green1976]

Maybe rotation? Ali are plotting something unkind, adversaries! With them it becomes, they just think how to play a dirty trick.

[Tagan]

Quote: Olegater

... By the way, now I read about the penetration of sabotage from 404 into Russia. So my opinion is that they will try to coordinate the crimes again, as last time, they will only act most sharply.

they have already penetrated into Russia much more. here, individuals are simply hiding behind refugee status.
a small of the arrived "refugees" is asked:
- where is your folder when it returns?
he answers:
- when all the moskale will be killed in the Donbass, he will come immediately.
remember the story of smoking blends when ukrov tied to sales. how much is bent on this business? the same diversion in its purest form.
so this shit among the common people clambered above the roof.
the main thing is to neutralize in time ...

[APASUS]

Despite the 5th amendment of the NATO treaty, the Germans do not want to clash with the Russian Air Force on the Turkish side, they do not want to be a bargaining chip. Whatever they say about the Turks and protect them, you don’t really want to fight for the business of the Erdogan family based on stolen oil and weapons. I think that Turkey can remain itself if something like Georgia 080808

[askort154]

Not so simple. The army of Germany, like Turkey, is subordinate to the General Staff of NATO.
And the NATO General Staff has "hedgehogs" in his head from the behavior of Turkey, which is caught:
direct contacts with ISIS, in aggression against Russia, in the introduction of its Armed Forces in Iraq and the resumption of civil war with its Kurds. Now Turkey is a new headache for everyone.

[Jurkovs]

His shirt is closer to the body. It's time to protect your own airspace.

[AdekvatNICK]

The Germans do not want another Russian dryer to be shot down from their patriots in the event of another attack of Turkish schizophrenism.

[bad]

Germany exports its air defense system from the Turkish territory

... fried smell? ..

[salad]

I feel the case

[pts-m]

Germans know what they are doing. Erdogash will take it in the heat of violence and not give up these complexes in spite of their protection. As the people say ... what has been in my territory for more than an hour is already mine ...

[Stalnov I.P.]

Do not you think, dear ones, that both the states and the Germans quietly removed their systems only because there is no use for them, our electronic warfare simply cut off their oxygen. The Americans also removed their planes from their base in Turkey. Something interesting is outlined in Syria in the context of the speech of VVP at the collegium of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, where it was said "we have a lot of other systems" and you might think you need to apply them in Syria, not literally of course, but the meaning is clear.

[Dimachrus]

The Germans are pragmatic people, plus one should not forget about the masses of "refugees" in Germany, and there were enough Turks there even 10 years ago.
This is on the one hand, and on the other - this is how the news about the next rotation of NATO air defense forces can be presented ...

[Kerzhak]

The Germans are afraid that their property will be destroyed by our VKS?

[gg.na]

If the mess starts then these same patriots what to do in this case ?! Answer??! (mess between Syria, Turkey, RUSSIA) They will answer further what ?! After their answer, it will be necessary to join the counter with RUSSIA ??! They already have enough of the sanctions that they went after the partners from behind a puddle against Russia and now they bite their elbows And if there’s another answer from the patrites oo-oo-oo-Oooo .... Here podzadumalis they turned their zrkashki yes to home drove quickly! But this is purely so my assumption! Fig knows it so ...?

[Gilev georgy]

In my opinion, the trend has developed. The provocation will be simple - they will bring down a Turkish plane. I don’t know if the military is civilian. They will say that it was Russians who shot down their own with 400. After all, there is no one else. They will bring down somewhere where it is impossible. Not over Syria

[HaKim]

And in the picture, the cylinder is wrapped with a rag ?! Flowing what? Or does not hold at all ?!

[PatriotKZ]

Here it is true NATO in color, the hot smell of runuuuuuuut.