We want, they do not want?

Last Tuesday, the Russian Foreign Ministry accused Kiev of imitating the negotiation process about the postponement of Ukraine’s entry into the Free Trade Zone (FTA): Kiev was “dragging out rubber”, intending to put Moscow before the fact. And the fact is this: the trade and economic section of the Association Agreement with the EU enters into force on January 1 of the coming year, regardless of the outcome of these negotiations. There are accusations against the EU. Negotiators from Russia correctly raised questions, and the head of the EU delegation stood up with the words “the game is over,” the Russian president said.

Recall, the Association Agreement with the EU is a huge document, whose volume exceeds nine hundred pages of text. The document describes in detail the changes that Ukraine will have to make to its legislation. This includes the policy of customs tariffs, the procedures for introducing a visa-free regime, Kiev’s refusal of import duties on European goods and much more; There is no place or sense to list everything.

The tripartite talks that took place in Brussels on Monday (EU, Russia, Ukraine) ended in failure. From January 1 2016, as expected, Ukraine will enter the FTA with the EU. Russia, in turn, suspends the operation of the FTA with Ukraine.

As noted by RIA "News - Ukraine"After the meeting, European Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom stated that the EU, Ukraine and Russia were close to resolving problematic issues, but the Russian side did not show adequate flexibility. At the same time, she said that the introduction of Russian duties on Ukrainian goods violates the Minsk agreements.

The Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation believes that the European Union and Kiev in negotiations with Russia on the consequences of the full entry into force of the association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union imitated the negotiation process and eventually brought it to a standstill. Reports about it Gazeta.ru.

“Our partners were engaged only in imitation of negotiations and obvious tactical manipulations designed to pull time and put Russia ultimately before the fait accompli: the trade and economic division of the SA enters into force on January 1 of 2016, regardless of the outcome of these so-called“ talks ”, - says the message of the Foreign Ministry.

Also in the Russian ministry said: Brussels tried to prove that the SA allegedly does not differ from standard free trade agreements. Kiev, in turn, tried to downplay the significance of Russian-Ukrainian economic ties and to outline the “bright prospects” that shine on Ukraine with the full opening of the internal market for goods from the EU. “The EU and Ukraine, by their intransigence, have brought the case to a negotiating impasse. As a result, an unprecedented problem situation has developed. For its rectification, the same unprecedented decisions were required, but neither Brussels, nor Kiev had neither, nor boldness, nor political will, nor diplomatic wisdom, ”the Russian Foreign Ministry emphasized. In addition, the ministry believes that "none of our partners were even going to negotiate and look for any compromises with Russia."

Expressed and Vladimir Putin.

According to him, Russia will continue its attempts to regulate relations within the framework of the EU-Russia-Russia-Ukraine triangle. “I think that we will return to these issues many times. We want to improve relations with our partners, and we want to establish relations with Ukraine on this topic (according to the trade regime) and with the European Union, ”he said. RIA News".

The President drew attention to one remarkable fact: when the negotiators from Russia fundamentally raised controversial issues, the head of the EU delegation stated that the “game was over,” got up and left.

“The game is over, and they left, and a press release was released today that the Russian delegation frustrated the negotiations,” said the Russian leader. According to him, "this is not very European, not at all tolerant."

Earlier, Alexey Ulyukayev, the head of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of the Russian Federation, spoke about the possible agreements between Ukraine and the European Union and the response of Russia. According to him, the abolition of the free trade regime between Russia and Ukraine from January 1, 2016, does not contradict WTO norms, and its impact on the Russian economy will be minimal.

"Of course not. This is in full accordance with the rules of the WTO ", - quotes RIA News" the minister “We calculated everything, the impact will be minimal,” he added.

Deputy Director of the Institute of CIS Countries Vladimir Zharikhin believes that there is no reason to talk about violations of international law by Russia. On the contrary, Ukraine violates its obligations within the CIS.

"Klimkin constantly replaces normal diplomacy with propaganda for domestic consumption," said the expert. "Free Press". - The Treaty on the Free Trade Zone of the CIS has an application 5, which clearly states that the country has the right to suspend the operation of this agreement in relation to the state, which creates unfavorable economic conditions for it. So Russia is acting strictly in accordance with this agreement. ”

Ukraine, according to the expert, violates this agreement. It states: when concluding FTA agreements with other states, the country should consult with members of the FTA CIS.

And Russia initially insisted on the implementation of this clause of the agreement and on consultations. However, Kiev did not want this.

As a result, contract law violates Ukraine, not Russia, the expert concludes. Ukraine has no reason to dispute the decision of Russia, since Moscow acts in accordance with an international agreement, which Ukraine itself has signed in due time.

Let us ask ourselves: will Russia suffer from the economic rapprochement between the EU and Kiev? Will suffer. But not as much as it might seem. There are already some predictions about this.

The possible damage to the companies of Russia from the association of Ukraine with the EU could exceed 3,5 billion dollars, but Russia's withdrawal from the FTA with Kiev minimizes it several times, said First Deputy Minister of Economic Development Alexei Likhachev, presenting the corresponding presidential bill to 22 in December.

"I would like to emphasize that 3,5 billion is a speech about the predicted losses of the Russian business community, entrepreneurs if we did not react in any way to the launch of the FTA of Ukraine and the EU," Likhachev quotes "Lenta.ru".

Likhachev also noted that Russia's partners in the Eurasian Economic Union understand and largely share the position of the Russian Federation on this issue.

* * *

So, Kiev is moving farther from Moscow. Suppose that he will return to her "orbit", now the science fiction writer does not dare.

But not only Kiev moves away from Moscow. Politically and the European Union with their sanctions, statements in the spirit of "the game is over" and dancing to the tune of the United States. Despite the need for a common fight against world terrorism, which is recognized by many Western experts, it is practically impossible to overcome the differences between Europe and Moscow over Ukraine today.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru

Comments

[Sharapov]

Believe Khokhlov-deceive yourself. It has long been time to remove them from the FTZ. Dill in the CIS does not really consist and has not been related to the FTZ for a long time.

[Dembel77]

"game over"

Well, in the next adventure of Ukraine, all the points are set. What's next? Admission to NATO? Military escalation? That’s what’s going on ...

[Lelek]

Quote: Dembel 77

Admission to NATO?

Or maybe declare the former Ukraine an enclave of Israel. Just the other day, Pan Padro (probably after a fair portion of viskar) stated in the Israeli Knesset that Jews were the smokers in the formation of the state of Ukraine, and no less, no more.
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[avdkrd]

Quote: Lelek

Or maybe declare the former Ukraine an enclave of Israel. Just the other day, Pan Padro (probably after a fair portion of viskar) stated in the Israeli Knesset that Jews were the smokers in the formation of the state of Ukraine, and no less, no more.

So this is the open secret. Today there are 203 Jewish deputies in the Rada, which is about half, in the government there are even more. It is not known what date of the creation of the "state of Ukraine" Pedro broadcast in the Knesset, whether about 1918, or about 1991, and he himself does not know.

[aba]

Here the other day, Pad Pedro (probably after a fair portion of viskar) said

What just do not go political simply to get their dividends!

[Aleksandr Tot]

Lelek.
Infu about the Jews.
You will be surprised.
Starting from the three brothers who were shoved everywhere in northern Africa, in the Sinai (for forty years they couldn’t get anywhere even in the Sahara) by their abilities and antisocial tendencies, and “ordained” by themselves to be like “solvers”, looking on the Earth for the right cash flows.
The Torah is an opus for the demented.
Lelek, there are definitions of ethnos, nation, people. Well, there is no option for the Jews.

[Thronekeeper]

Ukria in NATO? Despite the fact that the EU has just sent it ON but not that ...
Soon expulsion from the IMF, WTO, and then from the UN,
and there ... How to cut "Leopard-3" with "Armata" will agree. And even with Lyakhs and Hungarians.
But the question is - why do we all need it?

[79807420129]

And maybe it’s enough to endure the undisguised rudeness and arrogance of all these slaves of the whales of the whales, I won’t talk about the territory of 404, from the horses of the slaves only the gag reflex remained, and even Europe, Europe, tolerance, tolerance, which to jesters tolerance of slaves and lackeys knelt before striped pah. And we will throw beads before lackeys and persuade them, so that shameful lackeys would not have gone into the forest.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: 79807420129

Europe, tolerance, tolerance to jesters tolerance slaves and lackeys knelt before striped pah. And we will throw beads before lackeys and persuade them, so that shameful lackeys would not go into the forest.

Statements in the spirit of "Game is over" testify only to the low intellectual level of the European negotiators.
And when the Minsk agreements are woven into the economic block of issues, it is worth thinking about the responsibility of the EU-speaking heads.
In sum, everything speaks of the impasse into which the Europeans have wandered in their attempts to present the 404 country as an example of modern democracy. Thus, the EU pats the dying Banderostan on the head and calms the junta with the words "We are with you .... AllMirZaVas ..."

[Vladimirets]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Statements in the spirit of "Game is over" testify only to the low intellectual level of the European negotiators.

They are simply annoyed that Russia was not able to be thrown in the same way that the United States succeeds in throwing the EU with the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). As it is, they were pulled, and these narrow-minded Russians did not want to be pulled, and yet everything was so beautifully conceived.

[Apsit]

Quote: Vladimirets

but everything was so beautifully conceived.

That's for sure, the idea was not bad. And the profit is calculated, but here such a bummer.

[kotvov]

. And the profit is calculated, but here such a bummer. ,,
it’s not only in this bummer. They already considered Crimea their patrimony, and then they snouted at the trough. ORDINARY, YES.

[lis-ik]

There are gaps in the EAEU sphere, our allies are not going to stop duty-free trade with the ruin, and there, of course, everything will fall to us, and in principle they count on that.

[specialist]

Here's the thing. A year or two ago, Putin sent a letter to the European leaders, in which he said that it would not be bad for Europe to participate in Ukrainian economic problems. And how to change the power there, so everything is in the forefront, and how to really help with money - it’s like the patrimony of Russia. In these negotiations, the EU believed that Russia would close its eyes to everything the old fashioned way, support the "fraternal people" (at a loss), while they (the EU) would skim the cream off. But for some reason it didn't work out, they thought that we would "express our concern" again and agree to everything. Now the decision of the Russian Federation is unchanged, which is why such bile is pouring in our direction. IMHO.

[samuil60]

And what statement from a woman to expect? Everyone knows the phrase: "You don't need to tell me anything, I understood everything!" And since the head of the delegation was a lady, it was difficult to expect another answer - if not in my opinion, then nothing at all. And all European diplomacy is now based on the same feminine principle - international feminism in action!

[cniza]

Likhachev also noted that Russia's partners in the Eurasian Economic Union understand and largely share the position of the Russian Federation on this issue.

They stuck their tongues in one place, and on the sidelines they understand everything well, well ...

[Rostov Papa]

Quote: cniza

Likhachev also noted that Russia's partners in the Eurasian Economic Union understand and largely share the position of the Russian Federation on this issue.

They stuck their tongues in one place, and on the sidelines they understand everything well, well ...

You are not quite right, evrazes know how to count money and our partners also have manufacturers who need to be protected. Here Old Man quickly realized where the wind was blowing.

[Burmistr]

Funny, the duty is only 6% !!!!
What kind of protection for the Russian economy can we talk about?

[Cap.Morgan]

Rich people, of course, do not look at the price of goods.
But any reasonable consumer takes into account even the percentage of the price. Sometimes this saves a considerable amount.

[SRC P-15]

the head of the EU delegation stated that the “game is over”, got up and left.

Is it all a game for the EU? Do we play all the toys, "good gentlemen"? And for us this life is very difficult. Then play without us in your sandbox, but I wonder if there will be a place for Ukraine? Or is she supposed to clean up the "dog poop" from this sandbox?

[marlin1203]

Until they sip this European "happiness" with a full spoon, they still won't understand anything.

[meriem1]

Quote: Sharapov

Believe Khokhlov-deceive yourself. It has long been time to remove them from the FTZ. Dill in the CIS does not really consist and has not been related to the FTZ for a long time.

Yes, they have already lied! But it is especially "pleasing" that all this violates the Minsk agreements !!! Interesting grunt. They want to eat a fish and will not choke on a bone.

[nemets]

by and large - yes, it’s practically not composed, especially after the outbreak of war in the Donbas. In general, it’s necessary to start talking with Europe and with dill and FSA more strictly, otherwise no one will put us in any way.

[onix757]

But among Crimeans, faith in the Russian Federation will quickly disappear with such an attitude:

The Russian State Duma adopted a bill allowing to recover debts from Crimeans to Ukrainian banks.
As reported on the website of the State Duma of Russia, for bill No. 955915-6 “On the features of repayment and extrajudicial settlement of debt of borrowers living in the territory of the Republic of Crimea or in the territory of the city of federal significance of Sevastopol, and amending the Federal Law“ On protecting the interests of individuals, having deposits in banks and separate structural divisions of banks registered and (or) operating in the territory of the Republic of Crimea and in the territory of the city of federal significance of Sevastopol ”

PS From which fraction of the voters I hope to explain unnecessarily and so it is clear

[machine]

What did you think? I bought a house on a mortgage and do not have to pay?

[Glukashin]

And where is it about debts to Ukrainian banks?

[AX]

Dumb and Dumber...

[Mikhail m]

Negotiators from Russia correctly posed questions

Interestingly, for the questions that Madame threw up from the chair. One can only guess.

[sa-zz]

Quote: Mikhail M

Interestingly, for the questions that Madame threw up from the chair. One can only guess.

They have already published on their resources "six myths about the FTA with the outskirts", a one-sided view that has nothing to do with "partnership".
And to get up and leave the negotiations saying "the game is over" is generally "not liberal and not tolerant."

[Dilshat]

The impudence of the West knows no borders. With the help of their puppets they drive Ukraine into bondage to sell the remaining strategic assets, tear it away from Russia and, moreover, want Russia to pay for it. Here I recall Pushkin's fairy tale: And I want the goldfish to be in my premises !

[avdkrd]

Quote: Dilshat

Here I recall Pushkin's fairy tale: And I want the goldfish to be in my premises!

I don’t even know whom to correlate with the Old Woman - either Europe is emigrated by the emigrants, or Ukraine, which has already remained without a trough))))

[stayer]

At the same time, she said that Russia's introduction of duties on Ukrainian goods violates the Minsk agreement.

Interesting logic, how are the Minsk agreements violated and in what clause (of agreements) is it written?

[udincev]

Quote: stayer

Interesting logic, how are the Minsk agreements violated and in what clause (of agreements) is it written?

The logic is simple

(quote from an article on Putin's statement)
In his opinion, "this is not very European, not at all tolerant."

It must be understood that not only Ukraine, but together with Europe, dance to the tune of striped. Not up to European tolerance when the hegemon commands.

[sa-zz]

Quote: stayer

how are the Minsk agreements violated and in what clause (s) is it written about?

Now they will tie every "hole" to "Minsk", as opinions have been voiced about the lifting of the sanctions (the word they have invented). Because if it is not spelled out, but nada, they begin to engage in "philosophy". In philosophy, in principle, everything is interconnected.

[Sober]

Courts are also with their "logic". Everything there is simply decided, as in Krylov's fable: you are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. Only now it sounds like this: You are to blame for the fact that you are Russia! And all with honest, honorable eyes.

Quote: Magic Archer

Generally interrupt any relationship and everything through the court!

[Igor39]

The wrong name is more accurate "We can not, they do not want" The West brought its politicians to the power of Ukraine and took it into its political and economic orbit, I consider it purely our loss, and it is not known when we will return it back, even if now Ukraine will have difficulties, over time it will enter the European economy and it will be impossible to tear it off.

[Egoza]

Quote: Igor39

I consider this to be purely our loss, and when now we will return it back, it is not known, even if Ukraine now has difficulties, it will enter the European economy with time and it will be impossible to tear it off.

Never say never". And, with all due respect to the author, I will try to be a science fiction writer. somehow more and more about the "global". And if it's simpler? Look what is happening with the weather. In Ukraine, the temperature is completely above zero, there is no snow, the water level in the rivers has dropped significantly, and this is already an alarming signal. With such a shift, snow can fall in the summer (if you count by months) And Ukraine and Europe will come with an outstretched hand to Russia ... for bread, for some water. So all the "delights" are yet to come.

[revnagan]

Quote: Egoza

In Ukraine, all-plus temperature, no snow

The climate is changing ... In Russia, in St. Petersburg, there is also a positive temperature. In Siberia, recently, too, "plus". And in Africa and Japan, snow and frost ... And what, we cry? The warmer the winter, the more you can save energy. In summer, snow is hardly ... With the quotas that the EU has set for Ukrainian products, the domestic market will be overflowing, so let's see where the curve will take. In the same Israel, there is no trace of a normal winter, and the harvest is three times a year remove, and with water, unlike Ukraine, strained, and manage to sell their products even abroad. Agriculture of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus is located in the so-called "zone of problem agriculture" because of the climate. But if the climate becomes milder, winters are warmer is just a plus.

[oracul]

You should not attribute to yourself the guilt that does not exist. Russia was in a "wild" position and for a long time "clawed" out of it, while doing its best to lull the vigilance of "friends" - partners. Happened. Ukraine, together with the EU, tried in every possible way to snatch more in the hope that Russia would collapse. Hence the hysteria. Negotiations have a chance of success only when the parties are ready for mutual concessions, which is not observed on the part of both Ukraine and its patrons (the EU and the USA). For us, any negotiations is a gain in time, which we hellishly lack.

[Teplohod]

Negotiations have a chance of success when the forces of the parties are equal, otherwise there is simply no point in listening to the weak for a long time, and therefore "Game is over!" There is only one way out - to force people to reckon with their opinions.

[Cap.Morgan]

But it is not clear WHAT will they enter the European economy?
Poles share potato market share?
Will Airbus move and buy Ana actively?
In my opinion, Ukraine can only supply girls to Europe, and even that ...

[Extraneous]

But it is not clear WHAT will they enter the European economy?

And they should not be included in anything. The EU is not going to let them go there. Everything is conceived in such a way as to harm Russia as much as possible. Hohland is just a bargaining chip. Not more. This is evident in all post-Soviet western republics. They received nothing good from the EU.

[Decathlon]

Everyone, absolutely everyone around us violates the so-called "international rules"! Sometimes I have a great desire that we, too, once violated these "rules", but only in such a way that later from these "rules" there would be nothing more than a dash of dust!

[hohryakov066]

Can still twist the valve slightly? I do not pretend to be a cool specialist in this area, but something needs to be done. It’s painfully fluffy we look lately!

[Mountain shooter]

There is absolutely no need to worry about the "detachment" of Dill from our economic space. Well, we have not forgotten anything. But they will soon forget the language. And the EU is such an EU - a completely bureaucratic organization. In general, the horses achieved this? Let them eat, they have a bigger spoon.

[Cap.Morgan]

They speak Russian. Mova is a stillborn project like Ukraine itself, before the Russians arrived there, there were uninhabited steppes, Tatar hunting grounds.

[Stoler]

We are present at the Historical event- Hammering the last nail into the coffin of the Ukrainian economy. Maidan is their judge.

[Riperbahn]

If we could incur losses of 3,5 billion, but we won’t suffer (according to Ulyukaev), then who will suffer them? Really memorable Yuropka? :) Or on the shoulders of the 404th shift?

[inkass_98]

Today, overcoming the differences between Europe and Moscow over Ukraine is practically not possible

It is necessary to resolve the cause of the disagreement, i.e. The ruin. This is not a matter of one year, but only the reorganization of the territory and the brains of the local population can lead to a normalization of relations.
In fact, the contradictions between Russia and the EU countries (each separately) are by no means insoluble. They are so "scary" and stubborn in a heap, and when it comes to talking "in a dark place near a warm wall", then everything is good with them, we succeed in negotiating. And all because your shirt will always be closer to your own body than the mythical "universal human values", applied for some reason only in relation to selected countries and peoples.

[rotmistr60]

the Russian side did not show the necessary flexibility

Those. did not bend down to the west and refused to sponsor Ukraine in the field of trade relations. So how much money can you throw away? The West was even afraid to give Russian guarantees for the Ukrainian debt, but here again the Russian side is to blame. In a word - you all went far and without stopping. Tired of it.

[Masya masya]

"the head of the EU delegation said that 'the game is over', got up and left." Let them go ... through the forest! Ukraine is not Europe, so even if it pays like Europe ...

[parusnik]

To suppose that he will return to her “orbit”, nowadays a science fiction writer will not risk either. I’m not a science fiction writer, but I dare to assume that he’ll return, but it will not be soon .. And there is reason for this ... The territory of the so-called Ukraine .. it is the territory of Russia .. Little Russians, Great Russians, one people .. Russians ... Earlier, there were also attempts to integrate .. Little Russia into Europe in the 15th, 16,17, 20 centuries. We are connected by centuries-old cultural, economic ties .. The process will be long and difficult .. The history repeats ..

[Kos_kalinki9]

the abolition of the free trade regime between Russia and Ukraine from January 1, 2016 does not contradict WTO rules,

And the main gendarme, oh, made a slip of the tongue, the chief democrat of planet Earth said that it was contrary.

[Zomanus]

Well then. Let Ukraine fully experience European life.
More precisely the life of the European maidservant.
And now, to establish relations with Russia,
From January 1, Ukraine will have to ask Europe for all permissions.
And for some reason it seems to me that she will not receive permission for everything.

[Volzhanin]

The fact is that the people of our outskirts are now slurping to the fullest and there it will begin that our 90s will seem like an easy resort!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

It’s just that the authorities need to understand that ukroina is not our partner, and apparently they will never be anymore.

[press officer]

Quote: stayer

At the same time, she said that Russia's introduction of duties on Ukrainian goods violates the Minsk agreement.

Interesting logic, how are the Minsk agreements violated and in what clause (of agreements) is it written?

So they did not read the "Minsk agreements" but we were completely sure that as soon as the outskirts left Russia far away, we would still feed it "fraternally"! Those. "without us, we were married!" Aha right now! And let us begin to feed all the poor! Looks used to that marked and EBN would be ready to do so, only thank God, now they are not with us! And we did not plan to feed the "non-brothers", and we are not going to! Geyropa took a bunt, let them feed them herself!
P.S. And the words "game over" is of course a complete ... shaggy animal! To go nuts of impudence how much!

[Alice]

Even before this Ukraine was tired, I’d like to say, let them go wherever they want. They have already got it. In general, I think that you shouldn’t try to return them. Whoever betrayed him will betray him all the time. They will , after the collapse of the USSR, they went through confrontation with Russia, inventing some kind of their own stories, changing something, and so on. And not for the better. And if you consider how stubborn they are, they are not accommodating, so in general, I think, why should Russia pull them? Restore their country ?. But there is not only the smell of recovery. First of all, brains need to be cured. And our state is so humane, democratic. Why do we need this tamed chaos. Stalin is gone and never will be. Only he could handle it.

[brumgilda81]

History repeats itself, more than once. Everything that they just wrote was already there. I will repeat more than once it was, as mentioned above in the 15th, 16th, 17th centuries. I’m only afraid of one thing: that all this will happen more than once

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: brumgilda81

History repeats itself, more than once. Everything that they just wrote was already there. I will repeat more than once it was, as mentioned above in the 15th, 16th, 17th centuries. I’m only afraid of one thing: that all this will happen more than once

It will be, but not that ... While Ukraine is striving to become one of the poorest countries in Europe such as Bulgaria or Moldova, only worse

[Cap.Morgan]

The only question is who is in power there.
The number of Russian-minded citizens of Ukraine is very large.
Politics is not a place where children’s lips are puffed up and toys and pails are shared.
Countries such as Uraina, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Serbia, and even Germany may well be in the sphere of Russian influence as closest friends and allies.
It is only necessary to change the cattle in power there. This is very difficult. But it is quite possible.
Then the telly and the school teacher will do their job.

[Autopilot]

I personally know such pro-Russian citizens. She is married in Moscow, her brother has been in the ATO for a year, and before the war in Tyumen he insulated windows and walls with a brigade. Wait, demobilized and again to your earnings.

[33 Watcher]

ATO participants were denied entry, as far as I know.

[Autopilot]

2 State Duma deputies filed an application with this proposal, I don’t think that the law has already been passed, otherwise all the media would shout that in the Russian Federation there’s

[operator_75]

I would put 100 pluses. If your hand sinned against you, cut it off and throw it away from you, for it is better for you that one of your members perish, and not your whole body ...

[revnagan]

Quote: Alice

He who betrayed time will betray constantly.

Exactly. Najibullah and Milosevic tell about it ...

[pts-m]

No discount kahlam. Independent state. Hence all the actions. When we buy in a store, we don’t bargain. Since all buyers are equal to each other.

[Cap.Morgan]

And we are not in the store.
We are at the poker club.
Politics is not made a sledgehammer.

[cniza]

Quote: cniza

Likhachev also noted that Russia's partners in the Eurasian Economic Union understand and largely share the position of the Russian Federation on this issue.

They stuck their tongues in one place, and on the sidelines they understand everything well, well ...

[Yuri Y.]

Yes, just an FTA would be a nice bonus for them, if that. Well, it didn’t work out. So Ukraine, like other eastern European countries, plannedly fastened to the EU and all.

[vladimirvn]

I remembered an old joke
- Ukraine refused gas benefits. - And I did it right, because you still have nothing to pay, but how nice it is not to give Russia instead of, say, two billion all four.

[ibu355yandex.ru]

"The game is over" - the most honest statement of European officials in recent years. It very accurately defines any relationship between the EEC and Russia - a game aimed at the collapse of the latter. It's time for us to think about ending such games with our "partners" not only in Europe, but also in the world. Otherwise we are too gullible, we believe that everyone around is decent, like ourselves!

[Cap.Morgan]

Are you not interested in hockey?
Imagine the first half is over and you lose, well, for example, 2-0.
After which you say, well, that's enough, let's’t go to the field anymore ....
Although how many times it happened that they came out of more difficult situations successfully and with benefit for themselves.
"PARTNERS" ARE NOT RIDING ANYWHERE.
They will come running to the next round of negotiations as nice.

[AdekvatNICK]

the example is somewhat unsuccessful, then in hockey in this situation the team that refused to go to the ice is awarded a technical defeat. And here it turns out a draw.

[gla172]

"" "" "This is not very European, not at all tolerant." "" "

[afrikanez]

EU delegation leader said the game is over, got up and left

Damn it, they even cannot answer the questions posed. What else can we talk and negotiate with them. Well, can terrorism be defeated with such European politicians? No way!

[cap]

"The President drew attention to one remarkable fact: when the negotiators from Russia raised controversial issues on principle, the head of the EU delegation said that 'the game is over', got up and left."

“The game is over and they left, and a press release was released today that the Russian delegation disrupted negotiations,” the Russian leader said. In his opinion, "It's not very European, not at all tolerant."

Well, what can we discuss here? The fact that "two goats" (EU, Ukraine) want to crawl into someone else's garden. They got it on the horns. "But what did you expect?" Happy Parmesan holiday, gentlemen and former comrades!

[AdekvatNICK]

Rada today plans to consider the 2016 state budget and draft amendments to the Tax Code

who has information where to watch it live? I think the hack will be tough))

[Vadim]

The game is over, not over, I agree that all this crap with Ukraine got it. It will not remain, it will not ask for any help from this chamomile (fortune telling). If earlier they did not understand that this was "our sphere of influence" and gave the country under someone else's influence, what the hell is it to gloat now or wait for everyone to come to their senses and change their clothes. More progmatism, more thinking about yourself, about your country relying not on emotions, but on real analytics, and do your job regardless of anyone or anything.

[ML-334]

I want to dream a little: 2016, the revolution in Ukraine, a referendum, Ukraine’s entry into Russia.

[Gormenghast]

Ukrainians used the FTA in the CIS before only partially - where it is beneficial to them; it was necessary to ask them toughly for a long time, or to expel them from the FTZ. They think that they are trickiest of all. It didn’t work out.

[33 Watcher]

Protect your market and your economy by any means! And do not care how many foreign citizens suffer from this. Here is the only way to survive in today's environment. And do not care what is contrary there, WTO or something else ... I do not care! We are already under sanctions, why should we ..?

[antifa]

Well, you can provide yourself with products? CAN. And you don’t need the rest from dill.

[novobranets]

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Well, you can provide yourself with products? CAN. And you don’t need the rest from dill.

I’m afraid soon Ukraine will not be able to feed itself.

Demonstrators in the Ukrainian capital brought a coffin with pig carcasses to the parliament building. So people are protesting against the budget for 2016.
The demonstrators are sure that the main financial document of the country next year will inflict a mortal blow on the agricultural sector of Ukraine ... Note that the deputies cannot accept the budget of Ukraine for 2016 for three weeks now. The Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk threatened to deprive the people's deputies of the New Year and Christmas holidays in case they do not approve the document in the near future.

Read more on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1586958/?fb#ixzz3vFl6IbQE

[Comrade Zapirdulin]

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Europe, tolerance, tolerance to jesters tolerance slaves and lackeys knelt before striped pah. And we will throw beads before lackeys and persuade them, so that shameful lackeys would not go into the forest.

Statements in the spirit of "Game is over" testify only to the low intellectual level of the European negotiators.
And when the Minsk agreements are woven into the economic block of issues, it is worth thinking about the responsibility of the EU-speaking heads.
In sum, everything speaks of the impasse into which the Europeans have wandered in their attempts to present the 404 country as an example of modern democracy. Thus, the EU pats the dying Banderostan on the head and calms the junta with the words "We are with you .... AllMirZaVas ..."

I completely agree with you, I would like to add, by the expression Russia was not flexible enough in the negotiations, it should be understood that Russia did not bend !!!

how many wolves do not feed, but the elephant has a genital organ ... thicker (from the diary of a young naturalist)

[trantor]

God is with her with Ukraine, although he is not with her. But over the past couple of decades (starting with Gorbachev) my vocabulary of obscene and related words began to replenish: perestroika, new thinking, the era of stagnation, a common European home, consensus, partner, tolerance, liberal ... Where are we going?

[ltc35]

There we go. I hated Gorbachev from the time when I myself sat on the airfield at BMDhe ...

[wandlitz]

European Commissioner for Trade Cecilia Malmström stated that the EU, Ukraine and Russia were close to solving problematic issues, but the Russian side did not show the necessary flexibility. At the same time, she said that Russia's introduction of duties on Ukrainian goods violates the Minsk agreement.
Well here again. We are talking about Thomas, and they are about Yeryoma. What about the Minsk agreements?

[Denis Skiff]

Gangrene. Cut or save?

[T-73]

We violate everything, we are not negotiable, we are to blame, we, we and only we. Krylov wrote even when - "There is no need to blame the mirror if the face is crooked." This is not an insult. A statement of facts that are so disliked in 404 and gayrope. Put up the trees, please your kids. It is funny and sad at the same time. Cowardly tolerant .... I won't say anything, they teach us (and it's not scary) to live. Yes, we twisted your demands, more than your aspirations. We found something to scare the hedgehog (they left one - the rest, we repent ... released)

[tehnokrat]

"... Despite the need a common the fight against world terrorism, which is recognized by many Western experts, today it is practically impossible to overcome the differences between Europe and Moscow over Ukraine. "

You must protect yourself from world terrorism.
Let Geyrope leave all her baubles like gays, tolerance and refugees, let him bargain with Erdogan,
so that he could take these more without lace panties.
And to work for yourself, each at his own workplace!

Let's be honest, finally, at least to ourselves: what we had with Europe general? What is the common struggle? And now they have "Mein Kampf" again!

[atakan]

gotta get out of all these weird organizations
-, they are like a web, and were invented precisely for our pacification.

[arsenks]

For that fought for it and ran...

[Aandrewsir]

Well, since the great Ukrainians endure the antics of the egg-beetles, the gutters, and the scumbags-Nazis, it means that they have chosen their "happy American path" and will soon "begin to flourish." And, in my opinion, it is high time for us to stop “enduring American-Eurogean rudeness and arrogance” and tell them that, they say, you don’t want a normal partnership, so “be simpler”, we will do without your moralizing. There is Asia, Latin America and Africa. Well, the EAEU. And the great ukram, of course, "got lucky." Now Ukrainians and ukrikhs are completely free to go to geyrope and happily work there together with the Balts as laborers, servants, beggars and whores. Happy journey to you, great Ukrainians! Back to friends "do not stuff". Chew your Eurogean happiness with your mouth wide open!

[Zhnec]

Quote: Thronekeeper

Ukria in NATO? Despite the fact that the EU has just sent it ON but not that ...
Soon expulsion from the IMF, WTO, and then from the UN,
and there ... How to cut "Leopard-3" with "Armata" will agree. And even with Lyakhs and Hungarians.
But the question is - why do we all need it?

What do you mean why? What about land? And who, after a couple of blows in the face with an officer’s boot, will wake up a patrimonial memory and they will again become quiet and docile as under the Poles? ...