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E. Satanovsky - Isolation of Turkey. The venomous reptile will be cornered.

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E. Satanovsky - Isolation of Turkey. The venomous reptile will be cornered.



Relations between Russia and Turkey are far from recovery. Moscow is “concentrating” by deploying sanctions against the Turkish economy, informing the world community about the “skeletons in the closet” of President Erdogan and preparing for the next problems from Ankara in Syria and beyond (there is little doubt that there will be such problems).

For its part, the Ankara, with its characteristic mixture of assertiveness and hopes to minimize the damage from the consequences of its own actions, is looking for new energy suppliers and allies in its planned future clashes with Russia, while maintaining aggressive plans for Syria and Iraq. Consider the current state of affairs and prospects on the “Turkish front”, relying on materials prepared by the experts of IBI M. V. Kazanin, I. I. Starodubtsev and Yu. B. Shcheglovin.

China looks askance

It is known that domestic analysts are closely following the policy of Turkey in Syria. It is far less known that the actions of both Russia and Turkey are no less closely examined by Chinese experts. At the same time, their point of view is very indicative, good, Beijing supports an equidistant policy towards most countries of the world. Relations with Russia are no less significant for him than ties with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, but in the Syrian events Beijing clearly supports Moscow.

According to the PRC military intelligence information, the NATO countries have been using the Turkish port of Iskanderun in Hatay province since 2011 for the transfer of weapons and military equipment from the warehouses of the former Libyan forces to Syria. British and French military instructors trained Syrian anti-government fighters at military bases in the area of ​​this city. The CIA and the US Special Operations Forces Command provided them with communications and intelligence systems.

Joint training of the Syrian anti-government structures and the Turkish Armed Forces ensured a high level of mutual understanding between field commanders and the Turkish military. Ankara organized a training center in Adana, 130 kilometers from the border with Syria. The center for the distribution of weapons, communication systems and military equipment for the militants of the Islamic State (IG) banned in Russia was located in Istanbul.

The highest form of “active defense” of Ankara’s interests in the Syrian conflict was the destruction of the Russian bomber by the Turkish fighter. Obviously, the Turkish secret services, in coordination with NATO partners, planned to capture Russian pilots, but the Islamists supported by Ankara could not carry out the ground part of the operation.

The Turkish authorities supported the IG, wanting to destroy Syria and earn money on the trade in smuggled oil. According to Chinese experts, the IG extracts only from the Al-Tank and Al-Omar fields (the IG in total is located near the 10 fields) from 20 to 40 thousand barrels per day. At a cost of 10 dollars per barrel, terrorists earn from 200 to 400 thousands of dollars. Turkish businessmen get a margin of two to three times as much as the average world price of oil reaches 39 dollars per barrel. According to Chinese media, the salary of an ordinary IG fighter is 400 dollars. To maintain 30 thousands of fighters, stable operation of two oil fields for one week per month is necessary. The Turkish side, with the lowest supply of Syrian oil, earns hundreds of millions of US dollars annually.

Chinese intelligence agencies have made very unfavorable conclusions regarding Turkey on the results of the processing of photographic and video materials after the attack on the Russian military aircraft. In an interview with reporters, one of the leaders of the Turkish Gray Wolves group declared his key role in the murder of a Russian military pilot. Activists of this organization took part in the pogroms of Chinese restaurants and shops and demonstrations in 2015, accompanied by attacks on Chinese tourists and the burning of the Chinese flag in front of the Chinese Embassy. According to the Thai secret services, members of this particular group organized a terrorist attack in Bangkok, the purpose of which was to become Chinese tourists.

According to Chinese analysts, the role of the official Ankara in the formation of the IG is indicated by statements by the former Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu (acting premier) made in 2014 in connection with the detention of Xinhumin Uighurs in 400 in Thailand, which he called illegal. It is known that the Turkish Embassy in this country gave out to those who wished to go to war against the “infidels” in Syria passports and tickets to Istanbul. To suppress the replenishment of the IG, the special services of China and Thailand conducted a number of activities. During the first 10 months of 2015, employees of the PRC MOB arrested 109 compatriots who returned from Syria and 20 Turkish citizens who recruited recruits from Chinese Muslims. 653 of the passport form of citizens of the Republic of Turkey and 200 applications for an entry visa at the Turkish Embassy in Bangkok were seized.

Well-known Chinese military analyst Rear Admiral Zhang Zhizhong said that the basis for a restrained position of NATO was the possibility of Russian long-range aviation. He noted that the Russian Air Force’s missile attacks carried out by strategic Tu-160 bombers demonstrated to the NATO leadership that Russian aviation can safely perform long flights with refueling in the air and launch cruise missiles with high accuracy (X-101, X-555). These flights are expensive, but they send a clear signal to NATO about the need to refrain from supporting Turkey in its actions against the Russian Aerospace Forces and Syria.

According to the chairman of the PLA Navy Information Council, Rear Admiral Yin Kyaw, Turkey’s actions are a provocation planned in Washington and Brussels, however, President Putin’s reaction to them was not calculated. According to him, the Turkish military did not expect the rapid deployment of C-400, and an additional sobering factor for Ankara was the placement of air-to-air missiles on Su-34 fighter-bomber aircraft.

In this situation, Ankara began an active search for new partners in the fight against Russia. It is noteworthy the combination of Turkish and Ukrainian defense industry companies developing armored vehicles. Chinese media report that Turkey invited Ukrainian experts to collaborate on the development of an AKCOR active defense system for the new Turkish tank Altai The main problem of this system is the low efficiency of missile detection radar.

The PRC media, evaluating Erdogan’s actions, say that it’s not just a “stab in the back” in Moscow, but “his behavior is reminiscent of that of a venomous reptile, which attacks from ambush, and then retreats awaiting results.” Chinese experts believe that the political elite of Turkey will continue the course of aggravating relations with the Russian Federation, but will eventually be driven into a corner, since NATO understands the real level of Russia's military power and refuses to support Ankara.

Erdoganov tangle

Speaking about the current state of affairs in Turkey, it can be stated that the election marathon in Turkey has been completed: the president, Majlis and local authorities with terms of office up to 2019 have been elected. Erdogan became the first president of the country, elected by direct vote. The Justice and Development Party (AKP) set a record for being in power. However, the confirmation of its authority became possible under the promise to restore stability in the country and continue the course towards political and economic reforms. The overall goal in the economy is recovery and a return to high growth rates. Long before the appointment of the government of November 24, it was clear that the country was in a difficult state. Currently, the situation in Turkey can be described as a crisis. We list the main problems.

* Fallen to three percent per year rate of economic growth. In 2002 – 2008, Turkey’s economy grew at an average of 6,8 percent. The reforms initiated at the beginning of the century have exhausted themselves.

* For the first nine months of this year, industrial production growth was 1,3 percent. At the same time, it depends on import deliveries (dependence at the level of 70 percent), and therefore, on exchange rate fluctuations of the national currency against the dollar and the euro.

* Exports declined by about nine percent as a result of the “Arab Spring” and deteriorated relations with a number of countries in the region, including Iraq, Israel, Egypt and Syria. The Libyan construction market is also lost.

* Official unemployment reached 10 percent. According to unofficial data, the number of unemployed is about 16 percent.

* The fall of the national currency due to domestic political instability (for the year against the euro by 10 percent, against the dollar - by 30 percent) does not contribute to the increase in exports due to the high dependence of Turkish producers on imports.

* The country has a large fork of population income. 10 percent of the richest people in the country get 13 times more than 10 percent of the poorest. *

* The ongoing antiterrorist operation in the east of the country, the situation with refugees and the direct involvement in the civil war in Syria lead to a decline in the attractiveness of Turkey in the eyes of foreign investors. At the same time, a growing competitive pressure from Iran is predicted.

* The country is waiting for a referendum on the adoption of a new constitution and the transition to a presidential form of government, which will require additional costs and prolong the period of internal political instability.

The Turkish domestic market is overheated and characterized by high competition. The development of the economy is impossible without the rapid growth of exports and the receipt of projects by Turkish contractors abroad. In this regard, the consequences of the crisis in relations with Russia, which are still expressed in direct calculations of the value of canceled contracts, have yet to be extrapolated to the medium and long term. Turkey is losing the Russian market, which is a priority for it according to the officially adopted long-term export strategy of the country. This will exacerbate internal competition and reduce the rate of return. Turkey’s real replacement for the Russian market is not visible either in the region or in the world.

Turkey insulation

Ankara is developing plans to respond to measures taken by Russia. However, it is in a vulnerable economic situation in terms of war sanctions. The ban on the passage of Russian ships through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles is regarded by American experts as an incredible option. This violation of the Montreux Convention makes Ankara the loser in terms of international law. In addition, such a move may entail a justified cessation of the supply of Russian natural gas to Turkey. Despite Ankara’s rhetoric on counter-sanctions, Western analysts have noted that it is designed to “save face”.

Turkey is the world's second largest buyer of Russian natural gas, a significant importer of Russian oil, coal and metals, and the largest one is wheat and sunflower oil. Theoretically, Ankara can find alternative suppliers, but only at a higher price. There is no alternative to the supply of Russian natural gas from Turkey, especially during the peak of the heating season. Russia supplies 55 percent of gas imported by Turkey (27 billion cubic meters of annual volume of 50 billion cubic meters). Deliveries are made through the Blue Stream gas pipeline and through the pipeline network of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria. 20 percent supplies Iran to Turkey. However, Ankara is actively competing with Tehran in Syria and Iraq, so the Iranians will be in solidarity with Moscow. In any case, Iran can not dramatically increase the volume of gas exports to Turkey due to lack of infrastructure.

The statements of President Erdogan regarding alternative supplies of Qatari gas to Russian gas are not based on themselves. Turkey has two terminals for liquefied gas: Marmara Ereglisi (8,2 billion cubic meters per year) and Aliaga (5 billion cubic meters), which is not enough to meet annual needs. Construction of new terminals requires two to three years and serious investments. Even with the consent of Qatar to provide their development will take time. Americans doubt that Doha will take real steps to cover the entire volume of gas imports to Turkey. Qatar is likely to get off with the construction of one or two terminals. Doha is unprofitable to supply natural gas to Turkey - Ankara as a strategic partner of Qatar requires discounts and preferential loans, and Doha is more profitable to sell raw materials to Asia and Europe.

Turkey’s oil can be replaced by supplies from Iraqi Kurdistan personally controlled by Erdogan and Barzani. This is their family business. The situation in this area is influenced by military actions against the IS and the elimination of oil smuggling routes (which the Kurds “mix” with their own), as well as Turkish pressure on the detachments of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). PKK detachments in Iraqi Kurdistan play a major role in the fight against ISIS, holding the oil-rich Kirkuk. However, this is true only if the current leadership of Turkey remains. Otherwise, things can change very quickly.

Plans to revitalize the Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline (TANAP) from Azerbaijan to Turkey are put at the forefront by Ankara, but there are several serious obstacles to its implementation. Baku today and in the future will not be able to fill the entire volume of the pipeline alone. It can only give 16 billion cubic meters. In order to bring this volume to the level of domestic consumption in Turkey, it is necessary to fill the deficit in 40 billion cubic meters. There are two ways here - to buy gas from Russia or from Turkmenistan. Moreover, Ankara will not receive any discounts that Gazprom provided to Ankara as part of the Blue Stream or the frozen Turkish Stream. All alternative ways of obtaining hydrocarbons in Russia will be more expensive for it and require additional investments in infrastructure construction.

The latter applies primarily to the Turkmen version. For its implementation, it is necessary to lay a gas pipeline under the Caspian Sea, which requires coordination with the Caspian littoral countries, including Russia and Iran. Erdogan nevertheless tries to develop the Turkmen version of receiving gas. On December 11, he paid a visit to Ashgabat, where he met with President Berdymukhammedov. At the same time, the attitude towards Turkey in Central Asia cannot be called friendly. In the region, four out of five republics have Turkic roots. Their leadership is wary of Ankara’s re-enactment of the “Great Turan”. Turkish organizations and lyceums in Central Asia are under the supervision of local special services. Moreover, they were mostly hostile with Erdogan by Imam F. Gulen, who is behind a good half of media leaks about corruption in the family of the Turkish president. Tashkent at the same time remembers that Turkey is hiding the functionaries of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), who are patronized by local special services.

And Ashgabat is not very necessary

Ashgabat stands alone in this case. 26 percent of imports to this country comes from Turkey. At the same time, Ashgabat consistently eradicated any attempts to expand Ankara in the field of education and create agents of influence from 2011. Erdogan’s visit was intended to outline the contours of future economic interaction, primarily in gas projects. Turkmenistan produces about 83 billion cubic meters of gas per year and about 58 percent (about 43 billion cubic meters) supplies to the PRC on long-term contracts. Ashgabat is interested in diversifying supplies, but the Turkish-Azerbaijani option of export is not a priority for it - primarily on profitability.

Currently, Turkish carriers are forced to deliver cargo to Turkmenistan through Azerbaijan, and then by sea. Since the beginning of the Turkish-Russian conflict, Ashgabat has sharply reduced purchases of Turkish products. Turkmenistan has to look back at Moscow, realizing that in the event of the expansion of the Islamists from Afghanistan, only Russia can provide military support to it. Ankara’s hopes for Turkmen businessmen who lobbying relations with Turkey failed, and Erdogan was convinced of this during his visit to Ashgabat.
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  1. iConst
    iConst 23 December 2015 14: 29
    -21 qualifying.
    Verbose Armageddonich.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 23 December 2015 14: 32
      -3
      Do you know more?
      1. iConst
        iConst 23 December 2015 14: 42
        +3
        What are we poking? Has the "correct" origin left an indelible stamp? laughing
        1. Thronekeeper
          Thronekeeper 24 December 2015 10: 01
          0
          Do you mean only that the author is Jewish, or even his descent from the Hell of Sotona? am
        2. andrewkor
          andrewkor 24 December 2015 16: 51
          +4
          Shit! "Marshal" grabbed about ....!
      2. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 23 December 2015 14: 44
        77
        Quote: iConst
        Verbose Armageddonich.

        Come on. Satanovsky is a handsome man. Interesting to listen.
        And not because I like his forecasting in favor of Russia, but just like his analytics.
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 23 December 2015 14: 53
          39
          I also like the way he speaks in essence, is smart and knows the case, as an Arabist.
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 23 December 2015 14: 54
          19
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Interesting to listen.

          but there are bloopers.

          Obviously, the Turkish special services in coordination with NATO partners planned to capture Russian pilotsbut the Islamists supported by Ankara were unable to complete the ground part of the operation.

          They do not try to take prisoners by shooting in the air. They did not have IMHA as such a plan for capturing the pilots, and they did not even consider this option, but rather because it is not always possible to survive after a missile hit.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 23 December 2015 14: 56
            +3
            Quote: Scoun
            They do not try to take prisoners by shooting in the air. They did not have IMHA as such a plan for capturing the pilots, and they did not even consider this option, but rather because it is not always possible to survive after a missile hit.

            I agree. Here I agree.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 23 December 2015 15: 46
              71
              Vladislav, Scoun. There is a video (when they shot at the ejected pilots), where one can clearly hear: "ATPA! ATPA!" At least ten times. Translated from Turkish means "DO NOT SHOOT!" And in a commanding voice. But the militants were clearly excited and fired. I'm sorry, but I'm not good at this Google search for any videos. But even Satanovsky drew attention to this on talk shows. Also, when I saw this video for the first time, I could not believe my ears. Because in Kazakh it also has a sound and meaning (AT-shoot, ATPA-don't shoot). I also thought about our spirits chtoli, but in Turkish (and Satanovsky spoke about this) it is the same.
              So draw your own conclusions, but the conversation of the militants is very important in this case. hi
              This says that these are real bandits. There is no discipline, commanders do not have a clear understanding of when and what orders should be given. The mess is shorter.
              1. Scoun
                Scoun 23 December 2015 16: 04
                +2
                Quote: Kasym
                where you can clearly hear: "ATPA! ATPA!". At least ten times.

                Well, this only confirms that there was no plan for captivity as such, it was then that the idea of ​​captivating had already gone. If there was a plan for the capture, then ATPA would not have to speak. Everything would have been agreed in advance, and taking into account the fact that the Turks had been preparing for this murder for a long time and all the groups were coordinated to put it mildly, it was precisely this moment that was left to chance.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Quote: Scoun
                In captivity do not try to take shooting in the air.

                why?!
                90 percent that the pilots will be able to catapult, which is what happened

                After all, there is the UN Geneva Convention prohibiting the shooting of catapulted pilots descending by parachutes.
                Shooting on catapulted pilots is prohibited by the Geneva Convention.
              2. Kunar
                Kunar 26 December 2015 07: 14
                0
                Absolutely syzyk, dear ...
            2. go21zd45few
              go21zd45few 24 December 2015 07: 40
              0
              Gentlemen, the provocation was planned just for the captivity of the pilots.
              Why did the television crew appear at the crash site not to take off the falling plane, but most likely to take the moment of the captivity of the pilots.
              1. Thronekeeper
                Thronekeeper 24 December 2015 18: 03
                +1
                When he does not stoop to the advertising agent of the Israeli tourist business, without specifying, will he stab a palest with a sharpening or a completely ZhYdovsky policeman will thrust an olive tree into his forehead (both cases are confirmed), or if the omnibus is blown up by boNbs with GGE or "Konkurs" with ODBCH? When the "Grad" of the Egyptian Muslim bros does not fire at Eilat.
                If without the Shaitan Zvezdezh - safer and cheaper now in Greece. Terror completely crawled to Italy.
                When Shaitan does not begin to trumpet that the Israeli F-15, shot down over the golan, is pendoSSky from the Ingerlik, with repainted recognizers, from some kind of fright passed to the chureks (who had no needles to give birth to), and like a ram set up under our reptile vinishchuvachi.
                The only thing with which I agree with Sh. Is to iron Qatar. But this does not make an ally, at least, for the following purposes :-)
              2. Kunar
                Kunar 26 December 2015 07: 19
                0
                One .... We decided to try for strength? Who ...? Russian? Surely idiots !!!
          2. Sharapov
            Sharapov 23 December 2015 15: 10
            +5
            However, they still tried to capture, not finding the corpse of the second pilot. Infa passed that it was not the ISIS who were looking for him, but the Turkish special services.
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 24 December 2015 12: 37
              +1
              In this case, special equipment was used, which the Igilovites simply do not have.
            2. Pissarro
              Pissarro 24 December 2015 23: 49
              +1
              This infa passed through the official channels of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which at a briefing recognized the work of special equipment and special forces groups (not bandits, namely special forces) in the plane’s crash zone. It announced that the Turks received greetings to the Turks as regards a massive air-artillery strike. Infa passed from the Turks that the area was processed for 8 hours, though they presented that it was processed not by Turkish special forces, but by poor peaceful Turkoman wink

              Find the Turks of the pilots, they would say that they were caught in Turkey and the plane was shot down there. Also, by the way, I heard on the video screaming not to shoot Turkish at Al Jazeera, this is the type of argument that the Turks did not want to kill the pilots, but it’s hard to control the rabble
          3. Sid.74
            23 December 2015 15: 36
            +7
            Quote: Scoun
            In captivity do not try to take shooting in the air.

            Well, Duc, the excesses of the performer. And there is one detail, the body of our pilot first appeared at the Turkish Armed Forces, after which it was transferred to the Russian side.
          4. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 December 2015 15: 43
            0
            Quote: Scoun
            In captivity do not try to take shooting in the air.

            why?!
            90 percent that the pilots will be able to catapult, which is what happened
        3. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 23 December 2015 14: 57
          +2
          .... not because I like his forecasting in favor of Russia, but just like his analytics ....

          ..There recently, in the "Politics" section, he did not really sourly rode through the current Crimean authorities .... It was interesting to read .... Lethal conclusions were ... lol
        4. Mister22408
          Mister22408 23 December 2015 15: 33
          -1
          It was not he who headed the Jewish Congress in Russia? He hides the possibility of selling Jewish gas to Turkey through an underwater pipeline past Cyprus ...
          1. Zlyden.Zlo
            Zlyden.Zlo 24 December 2015 02: 50
            +2
            Already he rode on this topic the other day
          2. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 24 December 2015 14: 29
            0
            Turkey is the last one to buy Cyprus-Israeli gas, because when it is produced, no one is going to take into account the interests and opinions of the Turks occupied Northern Cyprus (i.e. Turkey).
        5. BLACK-SHARK-64
          BLACK-SHARK-64 24 December 2015 13: 41
          0
          specifically and intelligibly ... talent ... hi
        6. Styx
          Styx 24 December 2015 20: 56
          +1
          and he does not always make predictions in favor of Russia! He makes reasoned forecasts, very sober and realistic, with all the consequences, which is what he likes.
        7. shpilkerman
          shpilkerman 25 December 2015 11: 35
          -1
          For some reason, his prediction on an Israeli TV is against Russia.
          And, well, yes, they don’t show TV of our chosen ones ...
    2. bocsman
      bocsman 23 December 2015 14: 47
      28
      Quote: iConst
      Verbose Armageddonich.

      Verbose is not verbose. And the analysis was thorough and knowledgeable! Thanks to the author!
      1. Imperial
        Imperial 23 December 2015 14: 54
        +6
        Verbose is not verbose. And the analysis was thorough and knowledgeable! Thanks to the author!
        From Tuesday to Thursday, from two to five, the FM radio is on the air now.
      2. bulvas
        bulvas 23 December 2015 15: 07
        +5
        Quote: iConst
        Verbose Armageddonich.


        I do not agree.

        If you can - show that there is too much in the text.

        In my opinion, every line is necessary


      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Mister22408
        Mister22408 23 December 2015 15: 40
        +2
        It does not take into account the 12th square of the economic zone of Cyprus and the claims of northern Cyprus for this gas field (read Turkey), it does not take into account a possible Jewish underwater gas pipeline from a promising field off the coast of Israel, etc. And so - yes :-).
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 23 December 2015 15: 54
          +1
          Quote: Mister22408
          He hides the possibility of selling Jewish gas to Turkey through an underwater pipeline past Cyprus ...

          Quote: Mister22408
          does not take into account a possible Jewish underwater gas pipeline from a promising field off the coast of Israel

          Something you care about this gas pipeline. smile
          1. guzik007
            guzik007 24 December 2015 08: 13
            +4
            He hides the possibility of selling Jewish gas to Turkey through an underwater pipeline past Cyprus ...
            -------------------------------------------------
            And why? And because Satanovsky has long been seen in strong pro-Jewish rhetoric on all channels, he voices Israel’s wishes regarding the Kremlin’s movements. What was his hysterical cost, we will bomb Qatar. Jews would rub their hands with happiness and would be no matter what. Lovers carry chestnuts with the wrong hands.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 24 December 2015 12: 18
              +4
              Well, I'm sorry, but Qatar and the Saudis need to be bombed for a long time even without Israel’s desire.
              As sponsors of all terrorists in Russia.
              As sponsors of all terrorists in Syria and Iraq.
              As active participants in the energy war against Russia.
              They want us to die, so it is necessary to drive them themselves under the sand.
            2. bobba94
              bobba94 24 December 2015 21: 15
              +3
              Satanovsky's "pro-Jewish rhetoric" and his dislike for friendly Qatar, benevolent Saudi Arabia and amiable Turkey, all those who finance, arm, educate and take care of those who fought with us, starting from Afghanistan. It is interesting girls dance. This is not someone else's hands. This is, excuse me, to protect your own ass.
    3. Altona
      Altona 23 December 2015 15: 14
      +1
      Quote: iConst
      Verbose Armageddonich.

      --------------------
      On the contrary, I briefly sketched where Ankara could stick its poisonous mouth and what awaits her there. Food or a shelpan over the wort.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 24 December 2015 16: 27
      0
      Indeed, today’s weird politicians have gone; they’re constantly sawing the branch on which they themselves are sitting ... Where do people have logic ??? Here's what the hell is quarreling with the country from which you buy oil and gas, where your businessmen have been grazing for years, where the million stream of tourists comes from ... What the hell do they need ??? Is it really just a pleasure to lick a finger in America ??? Unclear...
    5. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 25 December 2015 08: 04
      0
      Hey. Strange however. Not succumbed to a newfangled passion. I respect. What distinguishes the academicians of the old school. The statement. In each chapter, the statement is simple and capacious. who are interested in looking further at analytics. I must bitterly write modern specialists who occupy high posts, crowding on TV channels suffer verbiage. Listen to them almost do not respect yourself so they talk. But there is such a person at the top. The same thing. And the main mayor is a pure liberal, the same. But the most surprising thing is that he took on the most difficult thing to become an ORACLE. As it turned out, he constantly appeared in a box as an oracle and corrected his forecasts. This business cannot be his oracle, although the President appreciates it. The author of the article has never dealt with such things. Too strong a realist. And the statements are accurate, unlike many. These are the last Mohicans in science. His health.
    6. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 25 December 2015 15: 24
      +1
      Satanovsky, one of the few who can be trusted.
    7. Kunar
      Kunar 26 December 2015 07: 10
      0
      This is just a synopsis, dear ... The reality is much worse. In Kazakhstan, local Turks of "imported" are ready to dissolve on belts ...
  2. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 23 December 2015 14: 31
    48
    Evgeny Yanovich is smart and poisonous good . For that respect and love. At least by me.


    From beloved laughing
    1. iConst
      iConst 23 December 2015 14: 44
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir
      Evgeny Yanovich is smart and poisonous good . For that respect and love. At least by me.
      “It is usually short and whip like a whip.”

      And here is a whole opus. smile
      1. Altona
        Altona 23 December 2015 15: 15
        +2
        Quote: iConst
        “It is usually short and whip like a whip.”

        And here is a whole opus.

        -------------------------
        It is necessary to expand the theses with numbers on hand so as not to be unfounded.
    2. andj61
      andj61 23 December 2015 14: 44
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir
      Evgeny Yanovich is smart and poisonous.

      good In public speaking, even a small replica of Satanovsky most often represents a wonderful example of level 80 trolling. fellow
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 December 2015 14: 48
        +2
        Evgeny "Armageddonych" can ignite not childishly - well done.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 23 December 2015 15: 12
          13
          Quote: cniza
          Evgeny "Armageddonych" can ignite not childishly - well done.

          Well yes. Look, as in the program Solovyov recently said to Isaev: "... major general [censored] of the army" and added about the eggs
      2. The comment was deleted.
  3. Samaritan
    Samaritan 23 December 2015 14: 31
    +1
    Now there will be a strong pressure on our allies, the owners of oil and gas.
    They are preparing revolutions in Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Iran, of course, Syria, etc. I feel the project of our southern stream will help them a lot.
    The global battle for the EU market.
    1. WKS
      WKS 23 December 2015 14: 48
      +4
      Quote: Samaritan
      Revolutions are being prepared in Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Iran, of course, Syria, etc.

      Why didn’t they mention Turkey?
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 23 December 2015 15: 47
        +1
        They are terrorists! And the main US ally, on which all this is tied, through which they plan to hook the EU on a needle.
  4. Hello
    Hello 23 December 2015 14: 35
    +3
    In an interview with reporters, one of the leaders of the Turkish Gray Wolves group announced his key role in the murder of a Russian military pilot. Activists of this organization took part in the pogroms of Chinese restaurants and shops and demonstrations in 2015, accompanied by attacks on Chinese tourists and the burning of the Chinese flag in front of the Chinese Embassy. According to the Thai secret services, members of this particular group organized a terrorist attack in Bangkok, the goal of which was to become Chinese tourists.

    The Chinese then displeased them with what? Right up to Banokok perl. request
    1. andj61
      andj61 23 December 2015 14: 50
      +7
      Quote: Hello
      The Chinese then displeased them with what? Right up to Banokok perl.

      It was through Thailand that IS fighters from the Xinjiang Uyghurs were sent to Turkey. And the Turkish Embassy in Bangkok issued them Turkish passports for unhindered entry into Turkey. Chinese and Thai special services carried out a special operation, potential militants were detained, which caused Turkey's displeasure and downright hysteria among the Turkish Nazis. Here is No. Gray Wolves "and decided to take revenge, though not very successfully ...
      Greetings, Ilya! hi
      1. Hello
        Hello 23 December 2015 15: 12
        +1
        Quote: andj61
        Greetings, Ilya!

        Hello Andrey hi
        Quote: andj61
        It was through Thailand that IS fighters from the Xinjiang Uyghurs were sent to Turkey. And the Turkish Embassy in Bangkok issued them Turkish passports for unhindered entry into Turkey. Chinese and Thai special services carried out a special operation, potential militants were detained, which caused Turkey's displeasure and downright hysteria among the Turkish Nazis. Here is No. Gray Wolves "and decided to take revenge, though not very successfully ...

        Hmm did not know thanks for the info. good
    2. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 23 December 2015 14: 53
      +1
      .... The Chinese then displeased them with what? Right up to Banokok perly ....

      .... The fact that the Uighurs are not allowed to roam .... Also "brotherly" Turkic people ..... lol
  5. Riv
    Riv 23 December 2015 14: 35
    +2
    Too many assumptions and these assumptions are too loose. So what if Ankara is in a difficult position? Who is easy today? We all stand with one foot in the past and the other in the future. And between our legs is a harsh reality.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 December 2015 15: 02
      0
      Satanovsky gracefully did not notice that Turkey is at the head
      the so-called "Turkic" world, and this is a dozen
      states and autonomies. Whatever Erdoогan would practice, it’s
      the community will be for him. As you know, national sympathies (and antipathies)
      dominate the mind.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 December 2015 15: 09
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Satanovsky gracefully did not notice that Turkey is at the head
        the so-called "Turkic" world

        At the head - loudly said ...
        Maybe as a binder, but the center. Without which this world will not collapse, of course.
        But the loss of confidence in such a center is clearly upset by such a world.
      2. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 23 December 2015 15: 41
        0
        Yes, but for the time being, because life is still more expensive! wink
      3. Now we are free
        Now we are free 23 December 2015 16: 05
        +5
        Shalom Ubraha Alex hi
        Well, this does not mean that at the click of ethnic Adjar-Erdogan and the Crimean Tatar Davlet Oglu, all the countries of the Turkic world will run to kill themselves against Russia ...
        V.V.P. In general, if you have noticed, Turkey is distancing itself as a country and the Turkish people from "Got crazy" Erdogan and his "Vizier" Davlet Olgu ...
        +As I whispered to Root Turkish, the daughter of an Ottoman officer -Turkey itself has a very mixed attitude to the person of Erdogan, remember 2011 ...

        So your given comment is a little past ...
      4. andj61
        andj61 23 December 2015 16: 30
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Satanovsky gracefully did not notice that Turkey is at the head
        the so-called "Turkic" world, and this is a dozen
        states and autonomies.

        "At the head" - that's what they say ...
        But even Azerbaijan, which is closest to them, and strives to be an equal partner, should not be at all in the wake of Turkish politics, pursuing its own. Turkmenistan is very cool towards Turkey, Turkey will not be able to help him in case of aggression from Afghanistan, Uzbekistan is very wary of Turkey precisely because of Erdogan’s explicit pro-Islamist policy and the ties of Turkish special services with Hizbut Tahrir in Uzbekistan. The remaining Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are already part of another emerging geopolitical alliance. And Turkey is now playing not the Turkic, as it was before, but the Islamist cards. This policy began from the time Erdogan came to power. In other states - this is Russia, China, Afghanistan and Iran, Turkic peoples do not constitute a large proportion of the population. In Iran, actually ethnic Azerbaijanis make up a significant part of the population - but they are Shiites, and often even more orthodox than Persians.
      5. Zeus
        Zeus 23 December 2015 17: 03
        0
        They will be for him in order to give him power in their region later?

        By the way, Satanovsky noticed this.

        Four out of five republics in the region have Turkic roots. Their leadership is wary of the activities of Ankara to recreate the "Great Turan." Turkish organizations and lyceums in Central Asia are under the supervision of local special services. Moreover, they were mainly organized by the rival with Erdogan, Imam F. Gulen, who is behind a good half of the leaks in the media about the facts of corruption in the family of the Turkish president. Tashkent at the same time remembers that Turkey harbors the functionaries of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), which is patronized by local special services.
      6. Stas157
        Stas157 23 December 2015 20: 24
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Satanovsky gracefully did not notice that Turkey is at the head
        the so-called "Turkic" world

        Maybe you don’t need to pull an owl on the globe? Turkey wants to stand at the head, but it doesn’t stand at all, and Satanovsky spoke about this, in particular on the radio.
      7. Weyland
        Weyland 24 December 2015 03: 11
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Whatever Erdoогan would practice, this community will be for him.


        And the Yakuts and Khakasses do not know ... lol
  6. sever.56
    sever.56 23 December 2015 14: 36
    34
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    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 23 December 2015 14: 45
      14
      Yes, yesterday was just the next anniversary of the capture of Izmail Suvorov.
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 23 December 2015 15: 10
        +4
        How nice to meet people on the site who remember the history of Russia ... !!! hi
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      3. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 24 December 2015 13: 14
        0
        Moscow time is the anniversary today, December 24.
  7. Boris55
    Boris55 23 December 2015 14: 47
    +3
    Poor Israel! Why will he buy oil now ... "Israel is the main buyer of stolen oil":
    http://79.120.77.163/klin/page.php?id=454
    1. kare
      kare 23 December 2015 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: Boris55
      Boris55 (5) RU Today, 14: 47 New

      [b]] Poor [/ b Israel! Why will he buy oil now ... "Israel is the main buyer of stolen oil":
      http://79.120.77.163/klin/page.php?id=454


      It is better to ask the poor Jew Satanovsky

      SATANOVSKY Evgeny Yanovich (born in 1959, Moscow), Jewish public figure, entrepreneur and scientist. Born in the family of the designer.

      [b] http://www.eleven.co.il/article/15576 [/ b]
  8. a housewife
    a housewife 23 December 2015 14: 49
    +7
    It is always interesting to read and listen to Satanovsky. He knows how to explain complex things intelligibly.
  9. a housewife
    a housewife 23 December 2015 14: 51
    +3
    People, I’m tired of this flag already !!! Give back Russian or Soviet. I was born, live and intend to continue to live in Russia.
    1. iConst
      iConst 23 December 2015 15: 10
      0
      Quote: housewife
      People, I’m tired of this flag already !!! Give back Russian or Soviet. I was born, live and intend to continue to live in Russia.

      Which browser do you use?
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 24 December 2015 14: 35
        0
        Quote: iConst
        Quote: housewife
        People, I’m tired of this flag already !!! Give back Russian or Soviet. I was born, live and intend to continue to live in Russia.

        Which browser do you use?

        I’ll say it again: it doesn’t depend on the browser!
        On my laptop "Fujitsu", bought in Germany but produced (assembled) in South Korea - for Denmark, the flag "pops up" - Danish ... but I live there! ...
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 24 December 2015 20: 48
          +1
          And from the browser too.
  10. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 December 2015 14: 53
    +3
    Turkey, of course, will lose a lot because of its policy. Only no catastrophe will happen. Everything as it was in its foreign policy, it will be so. And the Turkish authorities do not care about the lack of understanding of the population. They showed how they can suppress their rallies, and America is silent about such that's "democracy". We'd better forget for the adequate policy of the West in relation to each other. They are only our specks of dust. Russia, in connection with such a policy of theirs, must act independently and decisively in everything and just do not give a damn about them as they do.
  11. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 23 December 2015 14: 58
    +2
    The ability to deeply analyze events, about this calmly, without anguish and panic, put them on the "shelves" has always won over the author of the material. The clarity of the presentation is also important, without verbal casuistry, designed for a narrow circle.
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 23 December 2015 14: 58
    +2
    Quote: Samaritan
    Now there will be a strong pressure on our allies, the owners of oil and gas.
    They are preparing revolutions in Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Iran, of course, Syria, etc. I feel the project of our southern stream will help them a lot.
    The global battle for the EU market.

    the EU market is already oversaturated. in this case, the Turks are on the side, most likely.
    Well, the South Stream slowly turns, slowly turns into the North Stream to the joy of the Germans.
    to rediscover the Southern one, you need to prove your genuine devotion to all kinds of Slavic "brothers". which is unlikely.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 24 December 2015 12: 33
      +2
      And note how cynically the Germans threw their "brothers" ...
      It will be a good lesson to them. And it is better for us to have pragmatic Germans in our partners than wise, Bulgarians, Poles, and poofs ... So that the Germans do not talk about sanctions against Russia, but steer gas flows in Europe, this is a temptation that is difficult to give up. ..And they always come up with an excuse for Brussels. Moreover, everyone knows who is the locomotive in Europe.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 24 December 2015 20: 49
        0
        Germans want to be the main transit country for Russian gas
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    1. iConst
      iConst 23 December 2015 15: 09
      +2
      Quote: GOGY
      On one of the Turkish TV channels, the Turkish Foreign Minister said that if Turkey and NATO unite? then occupy Russia in a week ...
      - Nrno from the NATO from this news circles fell out of hand ... smile
  14. Olegater
    Olegater 23 December 2015 15: 08
    0
    Clouds are gathering around Turechina. Now I read that the Germans were taking their air defense systems to their home, and before that, most of the lice planes with personnel were leaked. There were crumbs of staff (at the Ingerlik airbase) and the Netherlands. I think that everything goes as follows: the Turks, on far-fetched pretext, commit a provocation or without it and close the straits. Our answer is blocking what is possible, but the same gas. And then the Turks begin a big provocation, right up to the shelling of our air base. Well, a response from the Russian Ministry of Defense can affect this consumable leftover lice and the Dutch in Turkey - that’s the reason for the NATO attack on their allies Art. 5. I would like to be mistaken.
  15. Mjohn
    Mjohn 23 December 2015 15: 18
    +1
    Turkey has all the enemies of its neighbors (Iraq, Iran, Syria), so that it is easy to isolate
  16. Indifferent
    Indifferent 23 December 2015 15: 23
    +4
    We have a weak spot - these are the straits controlled by Turkey. If it really blocks them, then a military conflict is inevitable. I have always said that the Black Sea, according to modern strategic concepts, is simply a small puddle in which it is more expensive to keep a large fleet. It is good that long-range missiles appeared, which even the Caspian Sea made the theater almost invulnerable. But nevertheless, politics with Turkey must be conducted carefully and the noose should be pressed slowly so that it does not suffocate right away.
    As for the political system in Turkey, it is very unstable. In all countries where young people account for more than 28% of the population, violent social explosions are possible without any external recharge. And Turkey is just such a country. So I would be careful to predict Erdogan’s presidency before 19. If the people's standard of living begins to deteriorate on the streets, hundreds of thousands of young people can go out there.
    This is what distinguishes the European countries, that there are few young people in them and social explosions not provoked from the outside are practically excluded. That is the task of the United States now to "pump up" Europe with young people, moreover wild and unbridled, and to keep the EU in constant fear of "popular revolts". But this no longer applies to Turkey.
    1. Disant
      Disant 24 December 2015 14: 42
      +1
      Quote: indifferent
      We have a weak spot - these are the straits controlled by Turkey. If it really blocks them, then a military conflict is inevitable.

      threat of blocking double-strand straits.
      What if Russia blocks the straits from the other side?
  17. Selevc
    Selevc 23 December 2015 15: 32
    +6
    In my opinion, the ambitions of the Turkish elite and in particular Erdogan are much more than the real possibilities of Turkey ... Turkey would have much more economic and financial dividends if it were not for its radicalism in foreign policy ... Turks obviously lack European pragmatism in business - the hot East however ...)) Turkey with its problems of Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria, Georgia, Syria , Armenia, Iraq it is better to sit quietly and grow rich - against the background of poverty and instability among neighbors, they would only rise every year ... But having gotten involved in adventures with ISIS and other terrorists, they themselves are tightening their noose around their neck !!!

    And among the Saudis (hot as the sand of Arabia), in general, foreign policy is dumb like boots - a state that has such a colossal external border and is surrounded by hot spots and chaos is simply Allah himself who ordered to be tolerant and peaceful ... And they imagined themselves "the next rulers of the fate of the peoples" !!! And therefore the Yemeni missiles are already falling on their heads - and this is only the beginning of their end !!!
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  19. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 23 December 2015 15: 41
    +1
    It is surprising how quickly Turkey has evolved from a friendly state to an unknown yet.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 23 December 2015 18: 47
      +4
      Quote: L.A. A.
      It is surprising how quickly Turkey has evolved from a friendly state to an unknown yet.

      By the way, Turkey was NEVER a friendly state for Russia. Partner, temporary, yes, she was.
  20. knn54
    knn54 23 December 2015 15: 41
    +5
    The author is wrong to isolate not Turkey, but Erdogan. It is NECESSARY to establish contacts with opponents of the current government (youth, military businessmen), showing the short-sightedness and stupidity of the policy chosen by the current President. And isolating a member of NATO in the presence of a mass of enemies of Russia (not only in the West) is very difficult. And the Turkish economy is not so weak. UNIVERSALLY emphasize friendly feelings towards the people of Turkey. It’s just that you have to have a BIG gingerbread by the whip ...
  21. GOGY
    GOGY 23 December 2015 15: 47
    -2
    The Turkish Foreign Minister said that "if Turkey and NATO unite, they will be able to occupy Russia in a week ..." Wolfovich seems to confirm ... What is it, in nature - a hit?
  22. gg.na
    gg.na 23 December 2015 15: 49
    +1
    Satanovsky, as always, clearly and accurately speaks! good Sniper!!! I really like how he builds on his knowledge based on his knowledge. She chews everything on the shelves and puts them out as if by notes !!! Well done! A real man!!! good And this article is not an exception, everything is laid out and clarified! I enjoyed reading yes !!!
  23. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 23 December 2015 15: 59
    0
    Satanovsky described the situation with Turkey in such a way that she simply has nowhere to go, except to crawl to Russia on her knees and ask for mercy. If this is the case at least approximately, then Turkey’s only option is to start a war.
  24. ASK505
    ASK505 23 December 2015 16: 09
    +4
    Israeli journalists found that their country is one of the most active and main buyers of oil from ISIS. The main volumes of crude oil go from the Syrian city of Dir A-Zur to the Kurdish settlement of Zahu. This is where the main auction takes place. Buyers from Israel, Turkey and other countries of the region come to Zahu. A similar study was carried out by the newspaper Al-Araby al-Jadeed. Reporters found out. that oil is sold at Zakha at $ 13 a barrel, which is four times lower than the average market price. Why does informed Satanovsky carefully ignore this fact?
    1. Hello
      Hello 23 December 2015 17: 37
      +1
      Quote: ASK505
      Why does informed Satanovsky carefully ignore this fact?

      Therefore, apparently:
      Quote: ASK505
      A similar study was carried out by the newspaper Al-Araby al-Jadeed.

      And the rest of the world is silent, apparently afraid wassat
    2. bobba94
      bobba94 24 December 2015 21: 30
      +2
      I got to the name of the newspaper "Al-Araby al-Jadeed" and everything fell into place. ASK 505 I advise you not to read such newspapers, Are there any others? Well, then don't read at all. Harmful
    3. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 25 December 2015 09: 33
      0
      It does not bypass your information; it gives others a chance to tell everything clearly.
  25. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 December 2015 16: 14
    +1
    Well-known Chinese military analyst Rear Admiral Zhang Zhizhong said ...
    belay General Zhang Zhizhong died in the sixties of the 20th century! If Rear Admiral and his full namesake live in China at this time, then this is a wonderful Chinese phenomenon. fellow
  26. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 23 December 2015 20: 15
    0
    Turkey’s dependence on gas and oil imports is a real problem and a weak spot. Turks are well aware that they get half of the gas from an already hostile Russia, and gas power plants account for half of the country's electricity. therefore, it is obvious that in the short term, the Turks have no other choice but to crush the neighboring Iraq gas station by hook or by crook. the gas pipeline from Iraqi Kurdistan, which should have been built by 2017, is already ready. Turkish troops entering Iraq may be related to plans to launch it. This gas pipeline runs in troubled regions, where it is likely to be undermined by the same fighters from the RPK. In connection with this, for the uninterrupted supply of the economy, an increase in UGS volumes is required, now the Turks seem to launch the first half of the Ace Gulu UGS.
  27. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 23 December 2015 20: 15
    0
    also, the Turks agreed with Qatar on the supply of LNG, but freely at 2 terminals only 5 billion cubic meters. True, you can drive fsru - also a way out.
    most likely the Turks are working in all these areas, because preparing to disconnect from the blue stream.
    also all this will push to accelerate the development of other types of electricity - hydro, wind, solar and nuclear. Mitsubishi is building a 4800 MW nuclear power plant in synop (the Akkuyu analogue) and the Japanese are pushing the Turks to build a second nuclear power plant of the same capacity, in the current scenario, the Turks will agree.
    wind turbines are being built at an accelerated pace, 6000 MW have already been built and another 7 MW are planned for the next 14000 years.
    Well, solar panels have already actively gone to the people.
    in short, if we don’t block the gas for them now, then perhaps soon it will be no leverage
  28. Gunther
    Gunther 23 December 2015 22: 28
    +1
    Ashgabat in this case stands apart.

    Not only Turkmenistan stands apart.
    "President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on restrictive measures against Turkey. It imposes a ban or restriction on foreign economic transactions involving the import of certain goods from Turkey into Russia; employers are prohibited from hiring Turkish citizens; Russian tour operators are ordered to refrain from working in the Turkish direction; also restricts, and in some cases prohibits the activities of any Turkish organizations in Russia. "
    "President of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov (an exception has been made for the republic, the chapter is still called"president") After much deliberation, he decided to voice the position" on Turkey ", with which Tatar ethnocracy has strong ties, - business projects operating in Tatarstan will not be stopped.
    "... They believed in our republic, invested $ 1,5 billion in state-of-the-art factories, where 98% of Russian citizens work. These enterprises are residents of Russia, and, of course, there should be no excesses ... I think that a political resolution of the conflict will take place anyway, and the projects that exist, we need to save by joint efforts ... "©
    https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/21/prezident-tatarstana-opredelilsya-my-hoteli-
    by-sohranit-svyazi-s-turciey?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C9213589746
    Let the devils in hell fry EBNo in a frying pan, for his "Take as much sovereignty as you can swallow."
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 24 December 2015 01: 07
      0
      Turkic solidarity still exists. it’s still a very smooth and neat statement by an official. and what most ordinary Tatars, Bashkirs and so on think about this ....
      and not only the Turks, but also other Muslims of the country, to put it mildly, at a loss as to why Russia sided with the sectarians against the Sunnis. the older Soviet generation still hawala TV propaganda ... and even that is far from all.
      so that the Syrian campaign comes around probably not returning Islamists, who are supposed to dunk in Syria, but even more successful Salafi and Pan-Turkist proselytism inside the country.
      1. Oleg7700
        Oleg7700 24 December 2015 05: 00
        +2
        Mr. Satanovsky could use the Internet and see the figures of the IMF and the World Bank about Turkey, - very good ... With all the problems, the population is growing by a million (!) A year, and what is important, with the constantly growing purchasing power of the majority. In 20+ years 100 million power with a GDP of 1.4-1.5 trillion dollars ... Considering that apart from Israel, they are the only ones in our Palestinians who created the Economy (with their part connected with the West, already in the post-industrial era), some Israeli orientalists admit that in the middle centuries, the common border between the conditional Turkish Confederation and Israel somewhere along the Litani River in Lebanon and south of Damascus, according to the Druze ... Motivating that all the so-called "states" between us have always been, and even more so are now, "tribes with flags ", according to Churchill. In general, more than a serious and dangerous geopolitical rival, with whom you will have to get along, finding common interests and ensuring your technological superiority ...
        1. -Traveller-
          -Traveller- 24 December 2015 08: 32
          +1
          you and the Turks have already agreed on everything. Mavi Marmara performance over?
        2. Pomeranian
          Pomeranian 24 December 2015 13: 09
          0
          By May of next year, let’s take a look at the geopolitical monster Turkey.
        3. CONTROL
          CONTROL 24 December 2015 14: 58
          +1
          Quote: Oleg7700
          In general, a more than serious and dangerous geopolitical rival, with whom we have to get along to find common interests and ensure our technological superiority ...

          Alas - not a rival! The enemy, and always has been!
          In the 90s, the Turks came to Russia in groups to "earn money"; had a chance to communicate. What is the "high purchasing power", where? for a cup of coffee, concentrate soup and a pack of cigarettes were barely enough! And suddenly - "has grown", and not something, but - "purchasing power"! Didn't Russia raise her? ...
          By the way: female workers from the Turks are the same! ... and the quality of their goods and building materials is a couple of orders of magnitude worse than even the current Chinese! I speak objectively, I’ve been in this business for more than 30 years ...
        4. KaPToC
          KaPToC 24 December 2015 20: 53
          +1
          Turkey lacks heavy industry as a class, what kind of superiority are we talking about?
    2. Weyland
      Weyland 24 December 2015 03: 22
      +1
      Quote: Gunter
      Let the devils in hell fry EBNo in a pan


      What a rotten humanism! am Pans are for sheluponi, and the worst is for traitors - ice circle of hell!

      "A person can get used to everything except the cold. You can't get used to the cold - you can only endure it! "(F. Nansen - from personal experience infa, 100% but reliable ...)
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 24 December 2015 15: 07
        0
        Quote: Weyland
        What a rotten humanism! am Pans are for sheluponi, and the worst is for traitors - ice circle of hell!

        "A person can get used to everything except the cold. You can't get used to the cold - you can only endure it! "(F. Nansen - from personal experience infa, 100% but reliable ...)

        Remembered the joke:
        Trained a young devil in hell. Senior - instructs him:
        - Watch these boilers and pans especially, here the Jews are boiling ... Don’t let Lucifer run - at least one will run away: everyone else will follow him!
        Well, here - look ... here the Russians are boiling; if they run away one or two, then not for long, to the nearest stall with vodka ... They always come back, they can't without their own!
        But you don’t have to look at these boilers - here we have boiling water! These - they themselves will not allow the shoots, no one will be allowed to jump out of the boiler, and protection is not necessary!

        The mentality, however ...
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    4. CONTROL
      CONTROL 24 December 2015 14: 48
      0
      Quote: Gunter
      [Tatarstan President Rustam Minnikhanov (an exception has been made for the republic, the chapter is still called “president") After much deliberation, he decided to voice the position" on Turkey ", with which Tatar ethnocracy has strong ties, - business projects operating in Tatarstan will not be stopped.
      "... They believed in our republic, invested $ 1,5 billion in modern factories where 98% of Russian citizens work. These enterprises are residents of Russia, and, of course, there should be no excesses ... I think that a political resolution of the conflict will take place anyway, and the projects that exist, we need to preserve by joint efforts ... "

      These enterprises - for the most part produce building materials (lower than average quality, under European brands), these are all kinds of polymers, from domestic raw materials. Even having driven out all of the Turks, the losses will only come from a reduction in the volume of "trade": the Turks "installed" these industries, the equipment is Turkish, well, there are consumables, a repair base ... and they take the finished product cheaply (raw materials for it manufacturing in Turkey itself is expensive ...), moreover, "cheaply - that's putting it mildly ... So it's mostly Turks who lose here, and of course our dear oligarchs ...
  29. Val roman
    Val roman 24 December 2015 11: 29
    +1
    If anyone has been to Turkey, or participated in negotiations with the Turkish business elite, they might be surprised to notice that many of these “Turks” are surprisingly similar in appearance, color, and color (hair, skin, etc.) to our Slavic tribes. From historical sources, from the depths of centuries, it is known that Turkish, Ottoman rulers, in the process of raiding the southern borders of the Slavs, led away young Christian boys and converted them to their faith, brought up loyal soldiers, defenders of the Ottoman rulers, and Ottoman sultans from them. Any hereditary genetic map will show the presence of Slavic roots in a significant part of the Turkish population. But even without a hereditary genetic map, one can see how mixed the nations of the world are, especially neighbors.
    You can and should try to make friends with the Turks, primarily between the common population, on the basis of constant and persistent clarifications that we are neighbors and almost one big people. Instead of a confrontation, constantly imposed by the collective West, this people should unite into one large Eurasian conglomerate, where the whole space will be a common space for economic and cultural activities for Ukraine with Russia (and Crimea, of course) and Belarus and Kazakhstan and Turkey with Bulgaria and etc. In this case, the question is whose Crimea? Fall away by itself. http://infofacts24.com/the-turks-janissaries-and-the-crimea/analytics/page-1/art
    icles.html
    With the correct, clearly verified foreign and domestic policy of the Russian Federation, almost all of Turkey can and should become a part of the future Russian Empire. But certainly with another Foreign Ministry, a full replacement of the so-called. "Elite" of the Russian Federation, and then Turkey. For the most part, long-term interests of the population of Russia and Turkey directly coincide.
  30. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 24 December 2015 13: 05
    -2
    Satan's well done. In my opinion, after the late Primakov, Satanavsky is the best orientalist in modern Russia.
    Threat. That's just what I look Svidomo-resources quickly ceased to be written with happiness when Erdogan announced the plan for the Azerbaijan-Turkey gas pipeline. As it turned out, Pan Ataman Aliyev’s dumb gold reserve ..
  31. Roust
    Roust 24 December 2015 13: 57
    0
    Everything is true and essentially a good analysis as always. Satan's burning. Well done.
  32. Mercenary
    Mercenary 24 December 2015 17: 26
    0
    "Moreover, Ankara will not receive the discounts that Gazprom provided to Ankara within the framework of the Blue Stream or the frozen Turkish Stream."
    Miller with the government - to shoot. Nightmare! Russia "creep" in front of every trash in Turkey, Ukraine, and are still surprised that they spit on us and wipe their feet? When will these bastards get drunk on green papers and begin to force respect for our Motherland? When is 17 expected there?
  33. Mobilized
    Mobilized 24 December 2015 18: 00
    +1
    Erdogan is poisonous, and Satanovsky is just so edible and useful ... only in the interests of what kind of people ?!
  34. Petruha
    Petruha 24 December 2015 20: 18
    0
    as always! not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! and on television the performances are wonderful! in my opinion, always balanced, clear, precise! never chews snot and if the opponent is rude, then he is ready to give in the face! that's right! write more, because it’s not always possible to watch TV, and you can read the article at any time.
  35. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 24 December 2015 22: 35
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    Quote: Val Roman
    almost all of Turkey can and should become a part of the future Russian Empire. But certainly with another Foreign Ministry, a full replacement of the so-called. "Elite" of the Russian Federation, and then Turkey. For the most part, long-term interests of the population of the Russian Federation and Turkey directly coincide.


    I doubt, however ...
    No, I won’t be minus, the other day I’ve been minus, but my opinion is with me, which I also wish for you.

    Friendship between nations is a good thing, and the long-term interests of the population as well.
    Only here the elites do not care, change them or do not change.
    The population for elites is, at best, the electorate, at worst, cannon fodder.
    The elites of different countries (zB of Russia and Turkey) are just competitors, and polish the world under
    the interests of the population, one’s own or another’s, will not.

    Satanovsky EvgenyYanycha I, like many, am ready to listen as much as he will speak.
    But here is the question: it is known that a dangerous animal cannot be driven into a corner - it can rush
    (this is me about the title of the article).
    Therefore, it would be good to put Turkey in a position where it will have to choose
    between the bad and the worse, but for the choice to be.
    And when she chooses this bad thing, she rushes to her allies.

    PS: sorry, I don’t know how to do it!
  36. walrus-a
    walrus-a 25 December 2015 15: 07
    +1
    For centuries, they fought with the Turks, but then they wanted to kiss in a hickey, alas ... history, like spring, showed - who crap where! Such friends should be kept at arm's length so that they couldn’t get us, and we could always slap a sobering slap in the face. Satanovsky is right, however ...
  37. asbaev
    asbaev 25 December 2015 19: 06
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    Interesting article
  38. Gypsy girl
    Gypsy girl 25 December 2015 20: 22
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    Evgeny Yanovich, bravo! Everything is in the top ten, as always! good
  39. volgroo
    volgroo 25 December 2015 22: 19
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    http://politikus.ru/articles/64213-predskazaniya-starcev-o-nashem-vzyatii-konsta
    ntinopolya-voyne-i-raspade-turcii.html