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Media: The Defense Ministry can order a patrol aircraft based on the IL-114

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is considering the possibility of acquiring IL-114 aircraft for special use, reports MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN.




“In the near future, the issue of the first customer of IL-114 aircraft will be resolved - it is possible that this will be the Ministry of Defense,” a defense industry source told the agency.

He recalled that "Aviation the Ilyushin complex previously proactively worked out a variant of a patrol aircraft based on the Il-114. ” The prototype of such a machine was created for the company "Radar-mms".

According to the interlocutor, "it was on this machine that many design solutions for creating a patrol aircraft were worked out."

“Nevertheless, the IL-114LL cannot be considered a fully patrol vehicle, but in many respects it performs the function of a patrol vehicle. “Ilyushin” after issuing a technical assignment of the Ministry of Defense is ready in a short time to create a patrol version based on IL-114-300, ”he said.

The source noted that "IL-114 can be effectively used for patrol purposes, since it has a flight time of at least 11 hours and allows you to install all the necessary equipment on it."

Help edition: “The passenger Il-114 is designed for transportation to 64 people. Its power plant consists of two TV7-117С (СМ) engines with an 2500 hp power. The maximum take-off weight is 23,5 t, with a maximum fuel reserve, the payload is up to 1500 kg. Cruising speed - 500 km / h; cruising altitude - 7600 m ".
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  1. avvg
    avvg 22 December 2015 18: 31 New
    14
    Everything is correct, it is necessary to provide orders to the aviation industry enterprise and revive the domestic aviation industry.
    1. Sinister1
      Sinister1 22 December 2015 18: 33 New
      -1
      There is not enough comment of Mikhalych license plate with the next clip ... Somehow he misses and phylon
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 22 December 2015 18: 47 New
        +3
        Sinister made my day ...
        1. Sinister1
          Sinister1 22 December 2015 18: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Samaritan
          Sinister made my day ...

          I'm so wassat
          1. carabiner sks
            carabiner sks 22 December 2015 19: 00 New
            +3
            Comrade Sinister1, today you and everyone on the forum have splashed poisonous saliva! What kind of sadness, sorrow is eating you? Baba left, or what?
            1. Cheshire
              Cheshire 22 December 2015 21: 36 New
              +2
              He was clearly not abandoned by a woman, but by a man, judging by his terminology. wassat
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 22 December 2015 18: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Everything is correct, it is necessary to provide orders for your enterprise.

      Well, as I understand it, the luchens guys are spinning and trying to promote themselves in all respects. I see nothing wrong with that. Let them try to fit in everywhere and their factory will always be in orders.
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 18: 55 New
      +6
      Normal idea. For example, at the time, an excellent patrol and anti-submarine IL-18 was created on the basis of IL-38, which, after deep modernization, now works as intended. Given the excellent take-off and landing characteristics, the ability to use low-equipped and short, as well as ice platforms, a very good option for the Arctic.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 22 December 2015 19: 29 New
        15
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Normal idea. For example, at the time, an excellent patrol and anti-submarine IL-18 was created on the basis of IL-38, which, after deep modernization, now works as intended. Given the excellent take-off and landing characteristics, the ability to use low-equipped and short, as well as ice platforms, a very good option for the Arctic.


        The "Ilov" traditionally has a minimal accident rate, theirs is a chip, by no means fighters, but remember at least IL-14! Take it away - and there would be no current history of Arctic exploration. Legend, not a plane. And why, I don’t understand, arrange some kind of debate: to buy, not to buy? In all respects, the AN-24, -26, -30 replacement is much superior. Or again ears stick out with "western economical analogues"? am . Give KB money, load modifications, and another 40 years of grief we will not know in this niche. The state needs a protectionism policy on this topic. Screw planes will not leave the stage for a long time.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 22 December 2015 20: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: iliitch
          Screw planes will not leave the stage for a long time.

          Especially for the Far North, where reliability and unpretentiousness are needed! Indeed, without LI-2, IL-14, AN-2 and other aircraft from the time of the formation of the USSR, we would now not know what the ARCTIC is! And small and medium aviation in the North is necessary as air! Just the distances and the climate there is cosmic!
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 23 December 2015 00: 18 New
            +5
            Quote: Tol100v
            Especially for the Far North, where reliability and unpretentiousness are needed! Indeed, without LI-2, IL-14, AN-2 and other aircraft from the time of the formation of the USSR, we would now not know what the ARCTIC is! And small and medium aviation in the North is necessary as air! Just the distances and the climate there is cosmic!


            Yes, I look at the picture and see, for example, how a Khatanga-Norilsk or Bratsk-Irkutsk flight lands ... I don’t know how it is now, but in the 70-80s it would be relevant. And yet, under Stalin, hydroaviation developed, airfields are not needed. Now all this is killed, as I understand it. Yes, what a potential! Take the AN-2 glider (a biplane is practically ideal for the North and Siberia), develop a kerosene engine (oh, how difficult and expensive it is for the government to take iPhones), floats for summer, ski and no need to invent. And we have Dolgans and Nganasans in Taimyr to the deer still ride to a neighbor. There is not far, 50 km to the nearest. I won’t be surprised if a certain group of governors sells a program for the construction of runways in the Arctic, in permafrost, with monthly repairs, and in permafrost, it “floats”. Well this is how much you can "master". There is no state approach. We wait until the Chinese have their hands to those edges?
          2. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 24 December 2015 18: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Tol100v
            Especially for the Far North, where reliability and unpretentiousness are needed! Indeed, without LI-2, IL-14, AN-2 and other aircraft from the time of the formation of the USSR, we would now not know what the ARCTIC is! And small and medium aviation in the North is necessary as air! Just the distances and the climate there is cosmic!


            You fly after the Urals, you fly, you understand, you fly again, and in the end it comes that we are Great. Tea, not some kind of Europe. Well, Ermak Timofeich did not know that everything was serious. Yes, and let him continue to be afraid of our vastness. Well, how to understand the Balts that we do not need them? No, they won’t taste the topic, even if you beat them with a hammer.
    4. jaguar
      jaguar 22 December 2015 20: 45 New
      +4
      A small remark ... about IL-114 I first heard about 15-16 years ago. And everything is still being considered the possibility of acquisition, may already be enough to consider ....... am
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 22 December 2015 21: 09 New
        +1
        There is a motor and a good one, a time-tested glider, only the will remained ...
      2. Just BB
        Just BB 23 December 2015 04: 38 New
        0
        How are you young good
        They were picked up in Soviet Tashkent
  2. Sirocco
    Sirocco 22 December 2015 18: 31 New
    +6
    You cannot spoil the sky with a good plane. laughing
  3. Signaller
    Signaller 22 December 2015 18: 32 New
    +4
    And who will ask ?????. The homeland will order - "NADO" - the Ministry of Defense will say- "IS". Moreover, it will also allocate money. In a good way. That's right. And then Boeing is better ..... Yes, it is necessary to switch to our-Russian planes for a long time, otherwise they chew, do not understand that. Good luck to the plane.
  4. Egor123
    Egor123 22 December 2015 18: 34 New
    +1
    A patrol plane, I guess, won't hurt us good
  5. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 22 December 2015 18: 37 New
    10
    From the IL-114, an excellent option for a relatively cheap AWACS plane would have turned out. The A-100 will be quite expensive and you won’t be able to build them in large numbers in a short time, and small DRLO aircraft like the analogue of the American E-2D can be built in large batches.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 22 December 2015 20: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
      small AWACS like the American E-2D

      "Hokai" specific car, designed for deck-based. Aircraft AWACS and U do on a small base makes no sense. This is not only a matter of placing equipment, but also a matter of significant range. And they eat "Avax" with an appetite, because they are forced to burn fuel and for additional installations that feed energy-intensive stuffing ...
      It is also doubtful to equip such small cars with air refueling equipment. I’m tired of chasing a tanker towards them at short intervals ...
      Do you want a cheaper car? .. You can take the base of the same Tu-214. It is quite acceptable. And besides, Tupol is already working in the military and special fields in the form of Tu-214R (2 units), Tu-214ON (2 units), Tu-214PU and Tu-214SR (4 units). Yes, and a patrol car some year and a half or two ago was supposed to be done on its basis ...

      In the photo Tu-214R ...
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 22 December 2015 22: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Chicot 1
        "Hokai" specific car, designed for deck-based.

        Not only. The US sold Hawkai to Japan and Taiwan, and they have no aircraft carriers.
        Quote: Chicot 1
        Do you want a cheaper car? .. You can take the base of the same Tu-214. It is quite acceptable. And besides, Tupol is already working in the military and special fields in the form of Tu-214R (2 units), Tu-214ON (2 units), Tu-214PU and Tu-214SR (4 units). Yes, and a patrol car some year and a half or two ago was supposed to be done on its basis ...

        We have already decided what the A-100 will be based on the IL-76. I doubt that the Tu-204SM will be cheaper than the IL-76.
        If we compare the E-2D and E-3 Sentry, then the difference in the detection range is not so big. The E-3 has 435 kilometers, the E-2D has 320 kilometers.
    2. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 04: 46 New
      0
      Take a look at the technical specifications: with full refueling, the payload is 1500 kg !!!
      What is an AWAC ?!
      Two observers with binoculars still went nowhere ... Or 60 people transported at a distance of 1000km
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 23 December 2015 13: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Just VV
        Take a look at the technical specifications: with full refueling, the payload is 1500 kg !!!
        What is an AWAC ?!
        Two observers with binoculars still went nowhere ... Or 60 people transported at a distance of 1000km

        What prevents the delivery of more powerful engines? For example, D-27, because the Yak-44 project was less than the IL-114, and the payload for the project took more.
  6. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 22 December 2015 18: 37 New
    +4
    And I just liked the car, had not seen it before. Anyway, I like the propeller aircraft of the classical scheme. good
    1. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 22 December 2015 21: 35 New
      +1
      To be precise - a turbo-prop aircraft.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 22 December 2015 23: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Hyppopotut
        To be precise - a turbo-prop aircraft.


        I, namesake, and I do not argue. But the SCREW is still there. wassat
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 22 December 2015 18: 46 New
    +2
    IL-114 was manufactured at TAPOiCh, and now the wind is walking in the shops, the plant has been handed over for scrap metal. Will they build a new one?
    1. avt
      avt 22 December 2015 20: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      IL-114 was manufactured at TAPOiCh, and now the wind is walking in the shops, the plant has been handed over for scrap metal. Will they build a new one?

      Arrived .... request Well, they decided and the new commander of the UAC quite specifically said - “Falcon” of Nizhny Novgorod and initially touched TAPOIMCH, then to the 20th from the new ones. They already seem to have dragged the fuselage to the static ones. But I suppose if there are patrols based on the 114th, then this is the near zone to the middle, in addition to the modernized, but not eternal IL-18, but to the dalnyak, as Sergey Tu-204 had planned, there is nothing request azohen wei! In short, instead of the Tu-142, a full tundra animal with fur inside.
  8. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 22 December 2015 18: 49 New
    +1
    Russia has something to patrol, it hurts a lot of "friends" around.
  9. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 22 December 2015 18: 54 New
    +1
    As a short-haul passenger option, the Tu114 in its segment would be just that, especially in such a coloring.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 04: 51 New
      +1
      Dear Great-grandfather!
      Nevertheless, the Tu-114 (glorious history!) And the IL-114 are TWO big differences
  10. flyer
    flyer 22 December 2015 18: 55 New
    +3
    It's time .. only now the question immediately arises. Where to produce and, most importantly, HOW? Given the current work of allies in the aviation industry, a sad prospect is being drawn .. Only the Ministry of Defense has enough patience to wait for a couple of Il-114s. Very fresh in my mind is how Samara AviaKor delivered the An-140.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 05: 27 New
      0
      The plane is from 404 territories.
      What was not immediately clear that the Western "partners" would not let a competitor enter the market. All documentation in Kiev, engines in Zaporozhye, etc.
      But the "effective manners" from the Forbes lists
  11. awersa
    awersa 22 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +7
    114 - they were preparing for release in Tashkent, along with silt 76s in 89, and then the union fell apart and the program’s core. The Uzbeks riveted themselves from the backlog of 20 pieces, we got three pieces and a bunch of aggregates remained, to this day they are lying on the ruined TAPOICH. These residues are going to be used in the first machines ... and God forbid the project 28 years from the start of production work ...
    1. Boos
      Boos 22 December 2015 19: 50 New
      +2
      A sad story, an e-mobile straight ...
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  13. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 22 December 2015 19: 05 New
    +2
    “The passenger IL-114 is designed to carry up to 64 people. Its power plant consists of two engines TV7-117C (SM) with a capacity of 2500 hp. The maximum take-off weight is 23,5 tons, with a maximum fuel supply, the payload is up to 1500 kg.

    Confuses commercial load - 1500 kg. ??? Moreover, in the passenger version, up to 64 people (with a conditional weight of a passenger with clothes and baggage about 100 kg.), The total load goes around 6 kg.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 05: 05 New
      0
      No one was going to carry passengers to the dalnyak in it. Maximum 1000-1500 km (2-3 hours)
      Yes, and 11 hours in flight somehow do not fit with the fuel supply of 8300 kg at a flow rate of 1 kg / h with the 600st engine - only 7 hours is obtained.
  14. anfil
    anfil 22 December 2015 19: 10 New
    +7
    To help TU-214P.

    Tu-214R, OKR "Fraction-4", "product 411" - the name of the aircraft for conducting integrated optical-radio reconnaissance (ORTR). It has been developed by the Tupolev Design Bureau for over 10 years. The base of the special-purpose aircraft is the Tu-214 series passenger aircraft. The production of new aircraft was entrusted to Kazan OJSC KAPO named after Gorbunov.
    If I’m not mistaken, we have two so far.

    I watched on November 27 his flight over the Black Sea.



    And this morning on December 21, the Russian Air Force Tu-214Р reconnaissance aircraft with the RA-64514 tail number made its first full flight around the entire border of Ukraine. Such data was obtained from the online service Flightradar24, which tracks the movement of aircraft in the sky.




    From 404 posts: Russia "scanned" the entire defense of the Ukrainian border with the latest reconnaissance aircraft.
    And if the Russians were able to read all the data, then in their hands are detailed data on the location of our troops, the lines of defense and the reserves of the Ukrainian army at the borders and in the Donbass.
  15. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 22 December 2015 19: 28 New
    +3
    velikoros-88 RU Today, 19:05 New

    “The passenger IL-114 is designed to carry up to 64 people. Its power plant consists of two engines TV7-117C (SM) with a capacity of 2500 hp. The maximum take-off weight is 23,5 tons, with a maximum fuel supply, the payload is up to 1500 kg.

    Confuses commercial load - 1500 kg. ??? Moreover, in the passenger version, up to 64 people (with a conditional weight of a passenger with clothes and baggage about 100 kg.), The total load goes around 6 kg.


    I rummaged a bit about the characteristics (I did not make a big mistake in the assumptions):
    Features IL-114:



    Length: 26.9m.

    Height: 9.2m.

    Empty weight: 15900kg.

    Wingspan: 30.0m.

    Wing area: 81.9kv.m.

    Ceiling: 8000m.

    Range with maximum load: 1500km.

    Engines: 2xP & WCPW127H.

    Link: 2x2750l.s.

    Number of seats: 64mesta.

    Maximum takeoff weight: 23500kg.

    Maximum landing weight: 23500kg.

    commercial load: 6500kg.

    Capacity of fuel tanks: 8360kg.

    the run length: 1400m.

    path length: 900m.

    Specific fuel consumption: 20.8g / pass / km.

    Hourly fuel consumption: 590kg.

    The width of the passenger compartment: 2.28m.

    True with Canadian engines, but I think considering the proximity of the characteristics with our engines about the same load.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 05: 12 New
      0
      You cheated smile
      Modification IL-114
      Wingspan, m 30.00
      Length of aircraft, m 26.877
      Aircraft Height, m ​​9.324
      Wing area, m2 81.90
      Weight, kg
      empty 13700 aircraft
      maximum takeoff 23500
      Engine type 2 TVD Klimov TV7-117
      Power, e.s. 2 x 2500
      Cruising speed, km / h 500
      Practical range, km
      with 64 passengers 1000
      from 1500 kg of cargo 4800
      Practical ceiling, m 7600
      Crew, people 2
      Payload: up to 64 passengers or 6500 kg of cargo
  16. Taygerus
    Taygerus 22 December 2015 20: 38 New
    0
    and rightly so, it is necessary to load our plants and capacities, and our engines can also be supplied, the main desire of the leadership, and this is your new patrol class
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 23 December 2015 05: 22 New
      +1
      Do you have aircraft factories? Very happy for you! Excuse me, what is your surname Deripaska?
      So this h ... (there is no word in literary spelling) the UAC could not or could not include its own aircraft factory in Samara. But once it’s Tu-154, Tu-95 ... But now they cannot even release an aircraft.
  17. Stoler
    Stoler 22 December 2015 20: 47 New
    0
    May order, may not order, rather the second than the first.
  18. Serggii
    Serggii 22 December 2015 22: 46 New
    +2
    Enough debate about who knows what kind of fleet a patrol plane was needed yesterday, so that’s the point and that will spur many related industries. And then, while we are deciding, they will already occupy the regiment.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 23 December 2015 09: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Serggii
      Enough debate ... But for now, we are deciding to occupy the regiment.

      The fact is that neither we nor here decide.
  19. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 22 December 2015 23: 08 New
    0
    Down and Out trouble started.
    In the USSR, most civilian aircraft were created on the basis of the military.
  20. lilian
    lilian 23 December 2015 00: 17 New
    +2
    Baba Nyura, a neighbor of my friend from the village of Vishnevka, said that the Ministry of Defense can in the next 10 years, maybe 20, to buy a certain number of IL-106 aircraft.

    I don’t know why, but it no longer gives me pleasure to get pluses on this site, let's cons, I will strive for zero, I decided not to delete the account.

    I don’t understand at all ... why publish this ... n.?

    Is this news or gossip? A certain person X, from the defense industry complex, threw a bullet, which is not excluded that the Moscow Region will buy the IL-114, which was created a quarter century ago. And what doesn’t buy - excluded or excluded?

    I would be glad, and further began to accumulate pluses if the news was like: the Ministry of Defense ordered 100 Il-114 aircraft, with a deadline for the delivery of the last instance to the customer within such a five-year period. This is news, this will cause joy, this is a normal situation for a Great Power. And not: three planes arrived, as many as five helicopters arrived.
  21. uge.garik
    uge.garik 23 December 2015 00: 31 New
    0
    ... for screw patrol aircraft, the minimum requirements for take-off and landing sites should be one of the main requirements in the performance characteristics.
  22. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 23 December 2015 02: 41 New
    +1
    TAPOiCH is gone. There is now a park. But they still arrange days of open doors, children climb on planes, they look at equipment.
  23. Just BB
    Just BB 23 December 2015 14: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    Quote: Just VV
    Take a look at the technical specifications: with full refueling, the payload is 1500 kg !!!
    What is an AWAC ?!
    Two observers with binoculars still went nowhere ... Or 60 people transported at a distance of 1000km

    What prevents the delivery of more powerful engines? For example, D-27, because the Yak-44 project was less than the IL-114, and the payload for the project took more.

    The trouble is that not everything is determined only by engine power (TV7 up to 3700hp), should I explain. this is the Air Force lieutenant ;-)!