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Belarus plans to buy Su-30 fighter jets from Russia

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During an interview at the Belarusian television channel, the Minister of Defense of Belarus Andrei Ravkov told that the official Minsk plans not only to continue the purchase of combat-training aircraft Yak-130 and Tor-M2 in Russia, but also plans to buy fighters Su- 30. Information Agency TASS cites the statement of Andrei Ravkov made by him in the Arsenal program of Belarusian TV.


In the near future, the renewal of the park will continue. aviation equipment and weapons, anti-aircraft missile and radioengineering forces as part of bilateral military-technical cooperation with Russia. This is the purchase of Su-30, Yak-130, and Tor-M2 air defense systems.


Belarus plans to buy Su-30 fighter jets from Russia


The Minister of Defense of Belarus noted that over the past five years, substantial work has been carried out on rearming the Belarusian army. According to Andrei Ravkov, one of the elements of modernization is the purchase from Russia of four anti-aircraft missile divisions C-300PS. In 2016-2017, Belarus, as the head of the republic’s defense department notes, will continue the process of re-equipment, paying particular attention to aviation and the missile component.

Commenting on the increase in spending in the Republic of Belarus, President Alexander Lukashenko has already noted that all social obligations in the republic will be fully fulfilled. At the same time, according to Lukashenka, 2016 will be a difficult year, as “the people themselves were to blame, the neighbors fooled problems”. The statement of Alexander Lukashenko represents the news agency "BelTA":

Year will be very difficult. And they themselves are to blame, especially our neighbors have freaked out more problems than enough. And probably, years will still be needed to rake them. These are their problems, but the problems are also ours, since these are our main markets - Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan. With the European Union, things are not so simple. Our products go there, you know, through a stump-deck. They have very strongly defended their market; you will not break through there with the products that we have. In terms of the fact that we produce the nomenclature that they have - the same tractors, cars, food, clothing. Even if we are better in terms of quality and price, we will not be allowed in there anyway, at least it’s very difficult to get there.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 22 December 2015 17: 20 New
    +9
    The Belarusian comrades (a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization) are doing the right thing; the western borders must be strengthened.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 December 2015 17: 22 New
      29
      And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?
      1. makst83
        makst83 22 December 2015 17: 32 New
        10
        Западные рубежи союзного государства, безусловно, необходимо укреплять, но..... классика жанра: "хде деньги Зин?" laughing

        Py.Sy. the famous father's multi-vector - and eat the fish and do not wash the pan! Arms deliveries ONLY under SOLID GUARANTEES for Belarus to fulfill its obligations!
        1. combat66
          combat66 22 December 2015 17: 49 New
          +7
          Do you want to knock yourself on the chest? laughing
        2. plotnikov561956
          plotnikov561956 22 December 2015 18: 27 New
          0
          Already walked this path Lukashenko ... eat fish .. ride a plane and dill profitable to resell fuel ... Ukrainian two stools in the Belarusian style or staged by Lukashenko ... ugh, how did you get this tricky
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 22 December 2015 21: 05 New
            +6
            Quote: Sith Lord
            And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

            Quote: plotnikov561956
            Западные рубежи союзного государства, безусловно, необходимо укреплять, но..... классика жанра: "хде деньги Зин?"

            Py.Sy. the famous father's multi-vector - and eat the fish and do not wash the pan! Arms deliveries ONLY under SOLID GUARANTEES for Belarus to fulfill its obligations!

            Quote: plotnikov561956
            Already walked this path Lukashenko ... eat fish .. ride a plane and dill profitable to resell fuel ... Ukrainian two stools in the Belarusian style or staged by Lukashenko ... ugh, how did you get this tricky

            .. shouted, rallied, slogans yelled .. and enough .. boys to sleep .. the answer to all experts on the above listed .. from the Eastern border of Belarus to Moscow - 435 km. then something else needs to be explained !!!!!!!! .. карта в приложение, дабы ум на место встал ! .. и далее понятно почему такая бойня за Украинскую землю .. и еще посмотрите от куда ближе всего к главному позиционному району наших РВСН вооруженных "Воевода" под Новосибирском .. думать надо, а не лозунги орать и флагами махать .. soldier
          2. Eragon
            Eragon 22 December 2015 21: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: plotnikov561956
            it is profitable to resell dill fuels ...

            What are these? Those that were wrapped up on the border of Belarus with Ukraine in the summer of 2014 and don’t go there anymore, or those millions of tons that came from Russia, but they go, thank God, they blocked the gas a month ago. How long? So who supports the junta ???
            P.S. Интересно, почему-то очень много пошло через нашу станцию угля в Украину. Для справки: уголь у нас не добывают, нет его, от слова "совсем". И объёмы закупок не увеличивали...
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 December 2015 17: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

        Taking into account the fact that Old Man turned his back on the EU and declared about the refusal of the air base of the Russian Federation, I propose to sell it, you can rent it out, only with pilots and technicians from Russia.
        I wonder if there is an Aviation School in Belarus?
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 22 December 2015 17: 46 New
          -2
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

          Very correct question.
          Quote: Sirocco
          Given the fact that the Old Man, backward twisted before the EU, and said about the denial of the air base of the Russian Federation

          Yes, in principle, they do not really fit into our problems, until now they probably have not recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia. In the West, this is not fashionable. Parashenko for the Old Man in general - bro, whom the bad imperial Russians have bent.

          Allies Mlyn, CSTO ....
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 22 December 2015 17: 55 New
            0
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Allies Mlyn, CSTO ....

            If the situation with the Old Man is not HPP, then I’m afraid the Old Man is waiting for Yanukovych’s fate, is he really so stupid? Although cunning, and rationality are two different things.
            1. rfnthtirf
              rfnthtirf 22 December 2015 18: 29 New
              +2
              Of course, both yours and ours. But I think that everything is tricky here. What we see. Rather, it's a cover. His behavior.
            2. fraer
              fraer 23 December 2015 09: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: Sirocco
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              Allies Mlyn, CSTO ....

              If the situation with the Old Man is not HPP, then I’m afraid the Old Man is waiting for Yanukovych’s fate, is he really so stupid? Although cunning, and rationality are two different things.

              Under the west, he definitely will not lie. Fully trust oligarchic Russia? Stupid. You’ll be left without pants.
        2. ancient
          ancient 22 December 2015 17: 54 New
          10
          Quote: Sirocco
          I wonder if there is an Aviation School in Belarus?


          There are .. whole 2 educational institutions:

          1.Minsk State Higher Aviation College.

          Duration of study: secondary education: 3 years, higher - 5,5 years.

          Official website: http://mgvak.by/

          2. Aviation Department of the Military Academy of the Republic of Belarus.

          Official website: http://www.mod.mil.by/vv/vacontacts.html
          1. Eragon
            Eragon 23 December 2015 06: 23 New
            0
            Quote: ancient
            There are .. whole 2 educational institutions:

            1.Minsk State Higher Aviation College.

            Duration of study: secondary education: 3 years, higher - 5,5 years.

            2. Aviation Department of the Military Academy of the Republic of Belarus.

            Since this year, not the Higher Aviation College, but the Aviation Academy.
            Both universities train technicians, pilots are not taught in Belarus, all pilots graduate from Russian military schools or institutes.
        3. Lex.
          Lex. 22 December 2015 19: 31 New
          +2
          Yes, even the academy in Minsk
      3. Belarus
        Belarus 22 December 2015 17: 38 New
        16
        Well, here, as always - on account of a loan from the Russian Federation and preferably at a low price. If you don’t sell it for cheaper, then the Republic of Belarus will say that: we are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization and so on.
        But I have a logical question: wouldn’t it be cheaper to open an air base in our country ???
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 December 2015 17: 42 New
          +6
          It was proposed and approval was already underway, then something went wrong and now you decided to buy airplanes.
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        3. Sober
          Sober 22 December 2015 17: 58 New
          +5
          Quote: Belarus
          but wouldn’t it be cheaper to open an air base in our country ???

          We have a union state. Do not listen to what the old man says, but see what he does. Everything is thought out and decided in Moscow and together with Moscow.
        4. clidon
          clidon 22 December 2015 18: 14 New
          +2
          После "вежливых человечков" Крыма наличие в стране российских баз воспринимается местными начальниками как обоюдоострая вещь. С одной стороны да Лукашенко хотел бы защиты от Запада, но с другой стороны не хотел бы "внезапно" уйти в отставку с заменой на более лояльного Москве руководителя.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 22 December 2015 19: 17 New
            +5
            Yes, full of you! If you forgot, polite little men of Crimeans rescued from fascists! And before that, for 23 years, we did not intervene, as if Kiev hadn’t done anything for us. Or am I wrong?
            1. clidon
              clidon 22 December 2015 20: 10 New
              +1
              Well, here they will definitely save from someone. Where without it? For example, from the clutches of NATO.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 22 December 2015 20: 28 New
                0
                And you didn’t get our Americans and Americans busy for an hour? This Americans climb everywhere. And ours for what?
                1. clidon
                  clidon 22 December 2015 22: 42 New
                  0
                  Наши последнее всем всем показывают, что не лыком шиты. Молодое капиталистическое государство показывает всем зубы. Хлоп грузинам по носу, хлоп украинцам. "И ничего за не было", никто спасать не прибежал. Поневоле тут окружающие и призадумались, особенно те кто находятся в "зоне интересов".
        5. Extraneous
          Extraneous 22 December 2015 18: 33 New
          +1
          Then the father will no longer be able to bargain with the west. Independence in such complex foreign policy realities is the art of the highest category. Then Lukashenko is on a horse. I respect you.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 22 December 2015 19: 19 New
            0
            Then there is nothing for him to build from himself in principle.
        6. Lex.
          Lex. 22 December 2015 19: 34 New
          +2
          Better brigade of Iskanders too close border with NATO
        7. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 23 December 2015 05: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Belarus
          Well, here, as always - on account of a loan from the Russian Federation and preferably at a low price. If you don’t sell it for cheaper, then the Republic of Belarus will say that: we are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization and so on.
          But I have a logical question: wouldn’t it be cheaper to open an air base in our country ???

          Nope
          it would be cheaper to get flu from Swedes on conditions such as they supply to Brazil
          or at least as Czechs
          but we are in the CSTO therefore ...
      4. ancient
        ancient 22 December 2015 17: 47 New
        +7
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?


        А это уже "другой" вопрос wink Батька молодец знает когда "нужно оказаться...и в какое время и в..каком месте" good
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 22 December 2015 21: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: ancient
          Батька молодец знает когда "нужно оказаться...и в какое время и в..каком месте"



          Hmm ... Now - you want, you don’t want, but you will sell ... or even give ...
          We need a base there, but ... it didn’t work out ... So, she will be kicked out as a member of the CSTO ...
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 23 December 2015 05: 38 New
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            We need a base there, but ... it didn’t work out ... So, she will be kicked out as a member of the CSTO ...

            In 94, it was not worth running, no one drove out, 4 regiments of Su-24 themselves were withdrawn
            Yes, and the base is great lukanomist requested since 2000
            but by a strange coincidence, Three five-year plans were sent to ...
      5. avt
        avt 22 December 2015 17: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

        Quote: makst83
        Py.Sy. the famous father's multi-vector - and eat the fish and do not wash the pan!

        In-in! Yours - mine and mine - mine and nothing like counting money in someone else's pocket.
        Quote: Belarus
        But I have a logical question: wouldn’t it be cheaper to open an air base in our country ???

        Конечно дешевле и логичнее ,и даже надежнее в долгосрочной перспективе с учетом декларируемого ,,единого ПВО", но Бацка ен сувярянитетом не торгуе .Ен так усе бярот - даром и еще требует спасибо сказать за то что берет.
      6. Lex.
        Lex. 22 December 2015 19: 28 New
        +2
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?
        Maybe discard the link that the loan?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 22 December 2015 23: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Lex.
          And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?
          Maybe discard the link that the loan?

          Where I claimed to be on credit? I asked two questions - they buy for my money or take on credit ...
      7. veksha50
        veksha50 22 December 2015 20: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?



        Вот за слова "соседи наворотили" и нежелание нашу базу создать - вроде бы нежелательно в кредит давать...

        And on the other hand - the last small buffer from that side remained, and it is worthless to bare it ...

        So - most likely, they will give a loan ...
      8. Altona
        Altona 22 December 2015 20: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

        ------------------
        Well, Belarusians are hardly very different from the Armenians in terms of buying from Russia all sorts of needs for the military. lol
      9. onix757
        onix757 22 December 2015 21: 28 New
        +1
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

        And you are not outraged why the Russian Federation wrote off billions of dollars in debt, why is it trying to get 5 lards to Iran thereby forcing us to buy our planes?
      10. WKS
        WKS 22 December 2015 23: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And my question is - to buy or take on the account of the Russian loan?

        By itself. Lukashenko has no other money, and this loan will be given by airplanes.
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 22 December 2015 17: 22 New
      +1
      I hope Old Man is not for potatoes and crabs (re-export)))) was going to buy ...? bully
      1. combat66
        combat66 22 December 2015 17: 25 New
        12
        Do you want ice palaces to pay? smile
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 22 December 2015 17: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: combat66
          Do you want ice palaces to pay? smile

          We want ... In Toronto, Quebec and Montreal ... wink
          1. AlexAl
            AlexAl 22 December 2015 21: 35 New
            +1
            Indicate the tads of the site for the siren site, we will arrive there by sea with 6 fleets, we will build all of Belarus.
        2. Altona
          Altona 22 December 2015 20: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: combat66
          Do you want ice palaces to pay? smile

          ----------------------
          Sell ​​us the tractor again at the price of fighters.)))
          1. AlexAl
            AlexAl 22 December 2015 21: 36 New
            0
            Well, not for the price of two?
        3. onix757
          onix757 22 December 2015 21: 58 New
          +3
          Do you want ice palaces to pay?

          But this is not necessary. Our bourgeoisie will not become poor if they help ensure the security of the western borders. In the end, without the avionics of Belarus, airplanes are a heap of iron, and therefore let Old Man teach the Russian elite to protect and respect allies whose numbers are less than fingers on hand.
      2. Temples
        Temples 22 December 2015 17: 27 New
        +3
        I hope Old Man is not for potatoes and crabs (re-export)))) ...? bully

        Not for the potatoes.
        For the bulb. laughing

        Do you want ice palaces to pay?

        I want to! I love to skate!
        Otherwise, we do not care. Somewhere along the way, the money will settle in the right pockets.
        And then the palaces! Health and beauty!
        1. combat66
          combat66 22 December 2015 17: 32 New
          +4
          In, we’ve already played enough ... With a club and a naked jo ..... Oh, no matter what .... wassat
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 December 2015 17: 46 New
            +4
            Quote: combat66
            . With a club and naked jo .....

            Come to Tolyatti - we will all be naked here soon. Marry your! laughing
        2. cniza
          cniza 22 December 2015 17: 34 New
          +2
          Join.
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. vovanpain
          vovanpain 22 December 2015 17: 36 New
          10
          Quote: combat66
          We will buy planes and rent pilots. That’s how it’s so easy to resolve the issue with the Russian air base!

          Brother combat66, we would pay you for renting a base and provide aircraft with crews, and you’ll probably throw up your weapons, and here your dad breaks down like a wench to extradite you, it’s charging a price or giving Europe a signal. hi
          1. combat66
            combat66 22 December 2015 17: 40 New
            +1
            У нас "свидомые" волну подняли и планктон тоже, который под раздачу попасть боится. Ну, а батька же призедент народный.....вот и пауза.
    3. Wolverine
      Wolverine 22 December 2015 17: 59 New
      0
      So then it is so if you bought for your money, and so you give us now and we will pay later, somehow, and there you look and forgive the debt.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 19: 18 New
      +5
      In the entire history of the existence of independent Belarus, Russia has given Belarus two S-300 air defense divisions for free, which were used to cover Russian bases near Baranovichi and near Vileka.

      From the composition of the Belarusian Military District to Russia it was withdrawn for free:

      1. two missile armies of the Strategic Missile Forces with 142 nuclear missiles and a storage base for the Strategic Missile Forces with nuclear charges, missiles and a lot of other stuff.

      2. One air army was transferred to Russia free of charge, including with the TU-22M strategic bombers.

      3. One tank army transferred to Russia for free
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 22 December 2015 19: 36 New
        +1
        Sorry, the Tu-22m is not a strategic bombers.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 22 December 2015 21: 41 New
          +4
          ........"Дальний сверхзвуковой бомбардировщик-ракетоносец Ту-22М3 (по кодификации НАТО “Backfire-С”) с изменяемой геометрией крыла является последней, наиболее совершенной моделью серии Ту-22".......
          С оборудованием "дозаправки в воздухе" переходит в разряд стратегических.
          Refueling equipment was dismantled at the request of the Americans when signing the Treaty.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 22 December 2015 21: 58 New
            -1
            What does it mean going over? I wanted to go there, I wanted to, I went the other way! But the Tu-160 did not go into tactical? Sorry! Tu-160, Tu-95 are strategic, and Tu-22M is a bomber of a theater of operations. And so you can start and transfer tactical missiles to intercontinental and vice versa!
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 24 December 2015 00: 15 New
              +4
              There is no such a theater-of-war bomber. There is a front-line bomber!
              ......."Самолеты Ту-22М несут мощное вооружение, но не обладают дальностью полета, необходимой для выполнения стратегических задач, и по этой причине классифицируются как средние бомбардировщики"..........
              I repeat, when installing equipment for refueling in the air, TU22M3 is considered strategic.
              Regarding missiles: tactical is tactical, intercontinental is intercontinental. I think you do not need to explain the difference.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 24 December 2015 17: 10 New
                -1
                Ту-22М3 не средние, а дальние бомбардировщики! Нет такого понятия "средний бомбардировщик"!
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 24 December 2015 22: 39 New
                  +4
                  ......... Tu-22M3 - ... supersonic missile bomber
                  modernarmy.ru ›article / 315 / bombardirovshik ... tu-22m3
                  Modification of the Tupolev Tu-22M3. Developer country: USSR. Type: medium bomber. ... The new intelligence officer was equipped with a modern complex of photo and radio intelligence, which, combined with high flight qualities ...
                  Can you read?
                2. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 24 December 2015 22: 41 New
                  +4
                  TU 22м3: characteristics of the aircraft (photo)
                  fb.ru ›article / 184340 / tu-m ... samoleta-foto
                  TU 22m3: aircraft characteristics (photo). Business Industry Av. ... In the international classification, the TU-22m3 bomber belongs to the middle class of military aviation.
                  How many links to send you?
            2. kapitan92
              kapitan92 24 December 2015 22: 46 New
              +4
              Tu-22M3 - ... supersonic missile bomber
              modernarmy.ru ›article / 315 / bombardirovshik ... tu-22m3
              Modification of the Tupolev Tu-22M3. Developer country: USSR. Type: medium bomber. ... The new intelligence officer was equipped with a modern complex of photo and radio intelligence, which, combined with high flight qualities ...
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 24 December 2015 23: 04 New
          +4
          The Tu-22 M3. Description. Characteristics. A photo. Video.





          Tu 22 М3 is a strategic multi-mode supersonic bomber-carrying bomber designed to hit a target on the territory of the enemy, which is a deeply modernized version of the TU 22М2 with significantly enhanced combat and defensive capabilities. Development of an OKB A.N. Tupolev was conducted from 1974 year, and 20 June 1977, the first test flight. The aircraft entered service in the Air Force in 1978 and was produced before 1993 by the Kazan Aviation Production Association (CAPO). The release of TU 22 M3 was limited to the agreement on the reduction of strategic offensive weapons SALT-2 and for the entire period 268 units of equipment were released.


          Read more at: http://avia.pro/blog/samolet-tu-22-m3-opisanie-harakteristiki-foto-video
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 22 December 2015 21: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        1. two missile armies of the Strategic Missile Forces with 142 nuclear missiles and the Strategic Missile Forces storage base with nuclear charges, missiles and a lot of other stuff.



        Here is one such lie or incompetence immediately reset your information ...

        On the territory of Belarus there was NEVER ANY army of strategic missile forces !!!
        If you had in mind two divisions - yes ... One of them is Mozyr, but the second I’m trying hard to remember now ... So far, it doesn’t work ...
        The Strategic Missile Forces army is from 6 to 12 divisions ... The largest at the time was Vinnitsa ...
        And 142 missiles in any situation do not work ... 100 missiles are the OS division (to make it clearer - Satan-Voivode in the silos), but not Mozyr’s PGRK ... So divide the amount you specify by at least 6 .. This is what they deduced ... And there’s nothing to talk about TRB and RTB ...
    5. Uran
      Uran 22 December 2015 22: 05 New
      0
      Migi where? your killed these planes
  2. combat66
    combat66 22 December 2015 17: 21 New
    +5
    We will buy planes and rent pilots. That’s how it’s so easy to resolve the issue with the Russian air base! wink
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 December 2015 17: 31 New
      +4
      What is there But father rested with this base? What for a poor country to buy these expensive toys? Base rental - big money and local jobs. Well, our mixed regiment would sit there, what harm Belarus? Or is preparing so seriously for a change of course ???
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 December 2015 17: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: KBR109
        . Well, our mixed regiment would sit there, what harm Belarus?

        Old Man is a sly fox, and yours and ours, In the EU, said that they wanted to hear from him about the refusal of the airbase, something didn’t grow together there, they didn’t give credit to the panes, now, according to the cunning, he decided to buy planes. As a result, there is no Russian base in Belarus, there are planes, and the EU can be milked. Sly fox, oh cunning.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 22 December 2015 21: 48 New
          +4
          При нашей беззубой дипломатии и отсутствием вразумительной политики по отношению к Белоруссии не мудрено, что лет через пять мы ее "потеряем", как Украину.
          Sad but true !!!
  3. Wiruz
    Wiruz 22 December 2015 17: 21 New
    +2
    Oh, they will ruin Sukhoi Mikoyan-Gurevich ...
    A couple of years ago there was infa, they say, Belarus and Kazakhstan plan to buy MiG-35 request
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 17: 35 New
      +3
      Yes, the greatest KB was! And now it is not known whether they will be reborn.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 22 December 2015 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      Oh, they will ruin Sukhoi Mikoyan-Gurevich ...



      Now a powerful reduction of the people is going on there ... Consider, the decision has already been made - to finish it off ...

      I would have finished it off, who made this decision ... whoever he is ...
  4. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 December 2015 17: 22 New
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    Given that
    "наши соседи наворотили проблем больше, чем достаточно"
    I hope that the purchase will be for my money, and not for Russian loans.
    1. combat66
      combat66 22 December 2015 17: 28 New
      +5
      Do not press, if anything, we will begin to rake first! smile
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 22 December 2015 17: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: combat66
        Do not press, if anything, we will begin to rake first! smile

        Everyone will start raking ... The distance does not matter. hi
        1. combat66
          combat66 22 December 2015 17: 45 New
          +1
          I said first ..... closer to us. wink
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 December 2015 18: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: combat66
        if anything, we’ll be the first to rake!

        We used to think that they would be the first to rake x.ohly. laughing
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 22 December 2015 21: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          We used to think that they would be the first to rake x.ohly.



          So they’ve already raked ... only manenko is not that ... And still they’ll rake the rest - the bridgehead is the bridgehead, everyone will beat, whoever is not lazy ...
  5. Sinister1
    Sinister1 22 December 2015 17: 22 New
    -1
    To the question of idleness and tolerance
    The banshee who is also that messenger who has risen on the faith of members of the forum forbids me to post comments.
    I’ve come to the post office, but the administrator of the numbers forbids comments ...
    , wiped everything including: Zrad or overpower ...
    in becomes censor
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 December 2015 17: 49 New
      +3
      Stop whining.
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    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 December 2015 18: 13 New
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      Quote: Sinister1
      in becomes censor

      Well, hammer on it, find a democratic forum. yes
    4. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 22 December 2015 18: 16 New
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      Well tired. Hold on
  6. izya top
    izya top 22 December 2015 17: 26 New
    +3
    that’s why not to invite our flyers on our equipment on a regular basis for purchases on a regular basis only, but as it turned out, it wasn’t the same as with the modernized Soviet planes that the father had driven the Arabs what
  7. Specialist 77
    Specialist 77 22 December 2015 17: 27 New
    -2
    why dad such a weapon? .... he is our friend .... help if that .... or dad has his own plans?
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 22 December 2015 21: 51 New
      +4
      У "батьки" всегда были и есть свои планы, что порой отличает его в лучшую сторону от наших руководителей.
  8. seti
    seti 22 December 2015 17: 37 New
    +4
    After the acquisition of the Yak-130, the purchase of the Su-30 is a logical step. The only question is whether Lukashenko has money to buy such planes ..? For rent no and it will be about the next loan.
    But the fact that the Belarusian Air Force is rapidly becoming obsolete and in need of modernization is a fact.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 22 December 2015 21: 59 New
      +4
      Yes, he has no money! Lukashenko is well aware of his country's strategic position. For Russia, this is the last buffer state in front of hostile Poland.
      Belarus is the only CIS state that has retained all its industrial potential. I will not list the military-industrial complex positions that Lukashenko supplies to Russia, but the product range is large, more than from Ukraine.
      He enjoys the situation perfectly!
      So, we ourselves will give Sushki, and even ask to take Yaki in addition!
  9. pavelty
    pavelty 22 December 2015 17: 40 New
    0
    It’s not clear what the Su-30 means, the Kazakhs took the SM, maybe the Old Man looked and decided too, then, according to the logic, Nazarbayev should take Yaki, the Belarusians took the same ...
  10. Egor123
    Egor123 22 December 2015 17: 44 New
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    And now another ally decided to purchase our equipment, this is good news good
  11. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 December 2015 17: 51 New
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    Belarus is not a very simple country. A brotherly country. But there is opposition that is pro-Western. And God forbid someday to change power there to pro-Westerners! All our weapons can get in the wrong place. Let there always be peace and harmony between us.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 17: 59 New
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      And there is also a president who is trying to sit on two chairs, like Yanukovych. It seems to flirt with us and before the west.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 22 December 2015 21: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Fraternal country. But there is opposition that is pro-Western.



      Unfortunately, we have enough of this merde-derma ... We all need to work hard together with brooms, so that, as in Ukraine, walk-fields are not allowed ...

      Сейчас на ленте новостей вой журналистов стоит: "Дума разрешила ФСБ убивать женщин и детей !!!"...

      I would have already planted these headlines ... But they are silent about the fact that the Duma allowed the FSB to beat children and women used during terrorist attacks and riots to defeat ... Is there a difference ??? But they - they kept silent, and fell silent, waiting for the people - to lead or not ???

      So, as I said, there is enough merde everywhere, and it’s time for him to send permanent residence to the tundra already ... Without matches and salt ...
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 22 December 2015 21: 39 New
        0
        According to one of the laws, in certain cases women and MINORS have long been allowed to kill.
  12. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 22 December 2015 18: 10 New
    -4
    Belarusians-only for babosy-I would not give a loan
    1. botur
      botur 22 December 2015 23: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: EDDI 76
      Belarusians-only for babosy-I would not give a loan

      The most interesting thing is that no one will ask you.
  13. Vad
    Vad 22 December 2015 18: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: 1976AG
    And there is also a president who is trying to sit on two chairs, like Yanukovych. It seems to flirt with us and before the west.

    It is probably hard for you to understand that after the collapse of the USSR, many allied countries survived as best they could, not everyone got the economic potential like Ukraine, and then they profaned for one word, and others either sold their minerals or took loans from the heir of the Union. For ten years Russia fell out of the space where it was necessary to engage in geopolitics. what do you want from others who are weaker, as they say, and I want but can’t.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 18: 46 New
      +2
      On the one hand, he declares that we are brothers forever and strategic partners, on the other hand, he does not support Russia in the international arena, where we now especially need allies! I'm not talking about the fact that when the unpopular Yeltsin was our president, he seemed to be striving to unite Belarus and Russia (hoping for a presidency?), And when the GDP came and asked directly when we would unite, right into the bushes and for how many years and don't stutter for it! So here is not a weakness, but a trick!
  14. ruskih
    ruskih 22 December 2015 18: 38 New
    +8
    Ну вот опять полилась грязь на Беларусь. Молодцы, нечего сказать. И кредиты вспомнили и летчиков предложили.А нашим русским и беларусским ребятам,что здесь живут, что теперь и летать не надо. Правильно президент говорит:"Зачем мне сегодня завозить сюда самолеты и летчиков других государств? А свои что будут делать?" И стулья пресловутые вспомнили. Хочешь жить -умей вертеться. Как вы не можете понять,что здесь не только говорят на русском,но и думают на нём.
    1. avt
      avt 22 December 2015 20: 05 New
      -2
      Quote: ruskih
      Well, mud again poured on Belarus. Well done, nothing to say. And the loans are remembered

      Ага - аккурат на фоне одних ребят , что ,,мораторий" по своему объявили.
      Quote: ruskih
      .And our Russian and Belarusian guys that live here, that now and do not need to fly.

      And who is against? Pay and fly.
      Quote: ruskih
      :"Зачем мне сегодня завозить сюда самолеты и летчиков других государств? А свои что будут делать?"

      Again - pay and fly.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 22 December 2015 22: 45 New
        +3
        "Ага - аккурат на фоне одних ребят , что ,,мораторий" по своему объявили."
        You do not equal our flyers with dirt.
        "Опять же - заплати и лети."
        I missed something, did the article say give it away for free or rent it out?
        1. avt
          avt 23 December 2015 13: 45 New
          0
          Quote: ruskih
          Did I miss something,

          Много ,особенно в части кредитования Белоруссии в целом и нынешних поисков 3 миллиардов Бацкой на погашение процентов по текущим платежам , которые он давеча в ЕС под 2,8% годовых искал на ,,белорусское экономическое чудо" и под это вещал о том что ничего не слышал про базу ВВС РФ , которую собирались открыть в 2015-м году , о чем Шойгу под камеру говорил.Это только казахи успели прикупить до падения цен на нефть 6 Су-30 и летчиков обучить за свои по российским ценам , а Бацка только как ребенок в ,,Детском мире" -,,Я тоже хочу ! И мне самолетик купите !" А кто платить будет ? Дядя Вова ? wassatС какой такой радости ? Дайте угадаю - ,,мы же саюзнае гасударство ! Мы вас засщищаем ! У вас же на западе ничего нет." laughing
          1. ruskih
            ruskih 23 December 2015 15: 03 New
            +1
            No need to pull the phrase out of the sentence. All loans were out of the question. They will not give us our level. Let them bargain - they have such a job. But personally, what state do you want to have near? For example, I don’t want to become another Russian refugee in old age.
            1. avt
              avt 23 December 2015 18: 35 New
              0
              Quote: ruskih
              . But personally, what state do you want to have near?

              Такое которое не попадает под определение -,,хвост крутит собакой".А то дядя Вова дай попить , а то так есть хочется , что переночевать негде .За ,,белорусское экономическое чудо" Бацка мог бы как минимум за базар свой ответить в части единой валюты и признания Ю.Осетии и Абхазии , тем более что за язык его НИКТО НЕ ТЯНУЛ,да и заткнулся бы с ,,союзным государством ",которое усякий раз уключает , когда денег на свое ,,чудо" надо , а когда приходит пора платить по векселям - ,,мы сувярянятетом не торгуем! Не надо нас нагибать !"Хотя его еще НИ РАЗУ всерьез и по взрослому не нагибали .
              1. ruskih
                ruskih 23 December 2015 20: 41 New
                +1
                So, how much does Russia pay for the rental of military facilities there? And with you it’s generally clear, I read your other comments on national issues, do not waste time on it.
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    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 19: 09 New
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      As always, politics is done by politicians. Everything will depend on them.
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  17. CRASH
    CRASH 22 December 2015 19: 36 New
    0
    Вот собственно и ответ, почему Бацка МИГи29 не продал арабам. "Но но но"сказали откуда то из Москвы.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 22 December 2015 19: 42 New
      -3
      Quote: CRASH.
      Вот собственно и ответ, почему Бацка МИГи29 не продал арабам. "Но но но"сказали откуда то из Москвы.

      Он может и "Калибр" продать Ирану и Ливану , если так нужно будет... hi У нас санкции "за кортоху " все продадим..
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 22 December 2015 19: 41 New
    +1
    Белоруссия "покупает". Берёт у нас же кредит, получает самолёты, отдаст кредит или нет - не известно. Сколько уже так денег "списали". Проще сразу дарить, меньше проблем и головной боли.
  19. max73
    max73 22 December 2015 20: 05 New
    0
    that's not even funny to me here. for ballast. you have captured a forum on your site, and you’ve got all the caps on the squares))) well))) oh, indignation !!! read the forum ...)))
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 22 December 2015 20: 21 New
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      Quote: max73
      that's not even funny to me here. for ballast. you have captured a forum on your site, and you’ve got all the caps on the squares))) well))) oh, indignation !!! read the forum ...)))

      I don’t understand, can I be more specific ...? (which forum and which site) And who is the ballast? With respect! hi
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 22 December 2015 21: 47 New
        +1
        The forum has captured some ballast on our site! And we, like, instead of letting our forum free the caps into the boxes, we throw (?). Like so.
  20. lopvlad
    lopvlad 23 December 2015 01: 59 New
    0
    A double attitude to the news. On the one hand, we are strengthening the security of part of the Russian people, and on the other hand, where are the guarantees that tomorrow Lukashenko will not break into the West with all the consequences?
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 December 2015 05: 49 New
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    It is possible that the agreement will be.
    For example, to block the flow of Turkish goods,
    and not only Turkish to us in Russia.
    And if we talk about airplanes, then do not care,
    where will they fight. The main thing is that it would not be against us or our allies.
    Well, on the other hand, they will still resort to us for maintenance at the plant.
  22. There are a lot of us
    There are a lot of us 23 December 2015 06: 09 New
    -1
    So the air base is not needed, but I would buy Russian planes ... (due to Russian non-repayable loans)
  23. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 23 December 2015 06: 58 New
    -1
    Why are Lukashenka new planes if the old trees sprouted? Well, the eternal question - what shisha? :-)
  24. kapitan92
    kapitan92 30 December 2015 00: 20 New
    +4
    Quote: 1976AG
    And there is also a president who is trying to sit on two chairs, like Yanukovych. It seems to flirt with us and before the west.

    Ukraine hopes to penetrate the Russian market with the help of Belarus
    Belarus again went against the policy of Russia towards Ukraine: Minsk decided to maintain a free trade zone with Kiev, which Moscow closes. For a number of Ukrainian enterprises, the “Belarusian way to Russia” may be the only means of survival - how will this ultimately affect the Russian market? laughing