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American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS

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American journalist Seymour Hersh in the London Review of Books publishes material in which she tells why France decided to act in Syria without actually applying to NATO. According to Hersh, the French president first tried to coordinate the details of the operation with US President Obama. Hollande asked Obama together with the EU to declare war on ISIL, however, according to an American journalist who refers to his own sources in the White House, the US president refused. For Obama, it is important that all Europeans conduct actions in Syria and Iraq exclusively in the format of an American coalition that solves its own tasks.


The same Hersh writes that to turn to the command of NATO Hollande was not at all due to the fact that NATO is Turkey. Information Agency TASS leads a piece of material Seymour Hersh:
Europeans emphasized not to apply for the same declaration of war in NATO, which includes Turkey. Turkey is the main problem. This is stated in the Committee of the Chiefs of Staff (CLS) of the United States.


American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS


The submission also says that even last year, representatives of the secret services of the Sunni states were invited to the CIA, where they discussed the issue of activities in Syria. The CNS states that the Americans allegedly asked Saudi colleagues to stop supporting the openly terrorist groups in Syria, but this request was ignored by the Saudis. In addition, the material reports on the involvement of Turkey in supporting Dzhebhat al-Nusra under the guise of "moderate opposition", as well as in establishing relations with the so-called "Islamic state".

Against the background of these statements, which appeared in the Western press, the words of the ex-prime minister of Iraq Nouri al-Maliki draw attention to themselves. He stated that Erdogan, supporting the terrorists, is today engaged in the genocide of the Iraqi and Syrian people in the same way as the then Turkish rulers against the Armenians did 100 years ago.
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  1. Sinister
    Sinister 22 December 2015 14: 07 New
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    Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 22 December 2015 14: 12 New
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      This is not a splinter, this is a rift. And we won’t stop adding our wedge there. Disagreements in the camp of the enemy are only at hand.
      1. Sinister
        Sinister 22 December 2015 14: 18 New
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        Quote: Michael m
        This is not a splinter, this is a rift. And we won’t stop adding our wedge there. Disagreements in the camp of the enemy are only at hand.

        And you seem to know a lot about perversions wassat
        Welcome drinks
        1. Temples
          Temples 22 December 2015 14: 27 New
          +3
          What nonsense !!!
          According to Hersh ... Hollande asked Obama to declare war on ISIS with the EU,

          Europeans emphasized did not begin to apply for the same declaration of war in NATO

          War declares one state to another.
          Did they already recognize ISIS as a state?
          And what kind of Europeans are these? French people?

          And does TASS write this?

          Some kind of divorce.

          ISIS can be destroyed as terrorists.
          That is why they are first recognized as terrorists and then simply destroyed.
          There is no need to declare war and no one. As they say, they didn’t come out with a snout.

          And some American HERSH recognizes them as a state.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 December 2015 14: 38 New
            +1
            Примечательно, что американцы всё навязывают и навязывают правительству Сирии и Ираку свои «медвежьи» услуги по больбе с ИГИЛ, хотя они их об этом США и не просят. И бомбят и бомбят якобы "по ошибке"лётчики американской коалиции правительственные войска Сирии и Ирака и их объекты, как слоны в посудной лавке - для того чтобы потоки ворованной боевиками ДИАШ сирийской и иракской нефти как текли, так продолжали течь через турецкую границу и попадать на мировой рынок - и ничего другого им не нужно.
            It’s all about the oil colonial business - and nothing but the continuation of this bloody oil colonial business. If you want to keep your business in your interests - hidden, as if from the outside, take it under your control or even lead. This is how the United States acts.
            And Europe and NATO countries are also simply satisfied with the robbery of Syrian and Iraqi oil with the help of DIASH fighters at DEMP prices.

            It has already been established that their legal and illegal profits from the purchase of ISIL oil through Turkish ports have: Israel, France, Greece, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Cyprus, USA.
            See
            https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/14/kak-turciya-i-izrail-grabyat-siriyu-i-irak-e

            ksportiruya-neft-islamskogo-gosudarstva-rassledovanie

            At the same time, Erdogan and his family got rich in a bloody way precisely at the OIL stolen in Syria and Iraq at DUMPING prices and its transportation to recipient customers. Erdogan acts as an international raider, and DIASH fighters are his hired fighters, who are in his service. And the United States with the Pentagon, the head of NATO, simply "roofs" Erdogan with his business.
            Erdogan is an absolute war criminal and Turkish dictator, under the auspices and in the service of the United States.
            1. 34 region
              34 region 22 December 2015 15: 02 New
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              Tatyana! Do you want to say this is a modern version of the plan INCREASABLE. When partners and opponents united against Russia. It turns out like this.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 22 December 2015 16: 24 New
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                34 region (2)
                Tatyana! Do you want to say this is a modern version of the plan INCREASABLE. When partners and opponents united against Russia. It turns out like this.

                Я не знаю, кого Вы в данном случае называете «партнёром» и "противником".
                А так всё в жизни временно. Каждый партнёр – это реальные люди с их личными интересами в своей жизни. Сегодня его личные интересы совпадают с вашими, а завтра совсем наоборот - нет. Партнёр - это скорее временный союзник. Считать, что "партнёр" всегда будет относиться к тебе, ТОЛЬКО как к другу – это просто верх наивности! Особенно в бизнесе и в политике.
                And by the way, that’s precisely why, Alexander III, when he gathered his close associates, he liked to say to his ministers: “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ” He was smart politician and Sovereign!
                1. Temples
                  Temples 22 December 2015 18: 19 New
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                  “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ”


                  So Savely about the same-
                  - all the others at this jump will split, radishes, at the very first out! laughing
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 22 December 2015 19: 49 New
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            Temples

            ISIS has all the attributes of a state. But the problem is that diplomatic dialogue cannot be conducted with ISIS.

            Их базисная идеология,"кто не с нами тот против нас". В таком случае их нельзя признать государством, а значит имя им террористы.

            In the USA there is no single state foreign and domestic policy. This is clearly seen in recent international events. This situation is an extremely alarming sign. If the party of war violates parity, then the rest will have to join. And then the United States will turn into a single, powerful military mechanism. With a powerful ideology of patriotism and a huge, strong technologically advanced industry.

            There is nothing to rejoice about. One can only ask common sense to prevail over stupidity.
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 14: 14 New
      +2
      "Турция рассматривалась главной помехой для сирийской политики Обамы". Эва оно как. Турки, доказывая свою преданность американским властям, сбивают наш самолет, а потом те по чьей команде он был сбит, спускают на Анкару всех собак, обвиняя в пособничестве терроризму. Суть сей басни такова: американская дружба – понятие очень переменчивое. Сегодня ты можешь быть другом и союзником, а завтра – заклятым врагом. В этом все американцы.
      1. Junior, I
        Junior, I 22 December 2015 18: 50 New
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        The USA stupidly merges Turkey, it is like a bone in the throat. Turks crush their plans.
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Sinister
      Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children



      At the moment, Turkey as part of NATO is a huge kettlebell for the states. But to expel - from the Shtatovs it’s not enough for that. Wimps.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 December 2015 15: 06 New
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        And where does this weight (Turkey) drag the USA? Maybe Turkey is one of the fingers of NATO's fist?
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 22 December 2015 14: 23 New
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      Why scratch your tongues in vain? There will be no NATO without Turkey. From here and draw conclusions.
  2. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 22 December 2015 14: 07 New
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    If intelligence SGS considered
    Turkey is the main problem in the fight against IS
    it would behave somewhat differently. And not only intelligence, but also the Pentagon, the State Department, Congress, the Senate, and even the children-grandchildren-wives of a gray-haired black woman.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 22 December 2015 14: 15 New
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      Yes, everything is pin .. do.siya knows. And he thinks as they need, they pursue their goals.
      1. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 14: 19 New
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        Quote: Pirogov
        Yes, everything is pin .. do.siya knows. And he thinks as they need, they pursue their goals.



        Chaos is a means! Oil is the main goal.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 December 2015 14: 29 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      If intelligence SGS considered
      Turkey, the main problem in the fight against IS would then behave somewhat differently. And not only intelligence, but also the Pentagon, the State Department, Congress, the Senate, and even the children-grandchildren-wives of a gray-haired black woman.

      Or maybe they don’t need a fight with IS, or rather its result?
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 December 2015 15: 10 New
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        And why should they fight ISIS if they are already trading at dumping prices with them? Probably an empty barrel is more expensive than the oil it contains. Sense of chopping a chicken (ISIS) laying golden eggs !?
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 22 December 2015 19: 55 New
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      V.

      How else? What does the US have to say about Turkey?

      What is bad turkey? Already said.

      What is good Turkey and a NATO country? They also said.

      What is Syria and Russia right in their politics, what did they say? Is it really? Yes.

      Here the problems are deeper than conversations. This policy is causing serious concern.
  3. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 22 December 2015 14: 10 New
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    Turkey will remain in NATO’s orbit, most likely Erdogan will eat something inedible.
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 22 December 2015 14: 13 New
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    Quote: Sinister
    Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children

    Americans are bluffing! America is the most important puppeteer in the Middle East. It’s not what they say publicly, but what they do behind the scenes.
  5. Boos
    Boos 22 December 2015 14: 13 New
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    Yes, everything is simple here ... The States made a mess in the Middle East, hoping to fuck it. And here Turkey, quietly decided to grow territories or influence ... And most importantly, once destroyed a single anti-Israeli-Arab world.
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 22 December 2015 14: 26 New
      +1
      the united Arab world ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 22 December 2015 19: 59 New
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      Boos

      And that your question does not arise?

      The States made a fuss, but Turkey itself takes off the cream?

      To determine the situation, you need to achieve recognition of errors. The United States cannot be punished, but dialogue with the United States is still possible. And by the way, they themselves go to the meeting. Do not oppose and perceive criticism.
  6. Fisman
    Fisman 22 December 2015 14: 14 New
    +1
    это пишет только один журналист и того могут заткнуть, "западная демократия" она такая. вспоминается история про турецких журналистов, которых посадили за неудобную правду(о поставках спецслужбами оружия террористам).
  7. emercom1979
    emercom1979 22 December 2015 14: 14 New
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    Perhaps a scapegoat is being prepared from Turkey if something goes wrong with the states. In the meantime, we see the unfiled comprehensive support of the Turks. That is, a platform for otmaza is being prepared.
  8. Stinger
    Stinger 22 December 2015 14: 16 New
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    And in the photo Erdogan is a copy of Telman Ismailov, the owner of Cherkizon.
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 22 December 2015 14: 23 New
      +1
      maybe he is? and he brought down drying in retaliation for closing the market.
  9. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 22 December 2015 14: 21 New
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    American journalist in the London Book Review magazine ...
    is it like a literary newspaper or something?
    oh well, Americans know that the Turks support nusra, etc.
    what's next? sanctions, exclusion from NATO, anti-Turkish atom?
    it's funny.
    The United States is also tied to this as Turks and Saudis. France may show off, even if it leaves NATO again, this will not change the position of the alliance, as not Paris decides there.
  10. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 22 December 2015 14: 26 New
    +1
    It seems to me that it is designed for domestic use in France, but Hollande needs to stay afloat, and therefore this news will get proper international coverage vryatli
  11. Roman 25
    Roman 25 22 December 2015 14: 32 New
    +1
    American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS
    Where does he say that? Probably in the pages of VO? or sitting at home - quietly talking to his animals!
    Otherwise, you can get a pair of life-long in Turkey, for example, for supporting extremism.
    Democracy, publicity however ...
  12. vobels
    vobels 22 December 2015 14: 51 New
    +1
    Both Turkey and the minke whales decide their interests there - this is understandable. And it seems that Erdogan is being prepared for sacrifice - they are starting to hang dead dogs on him (or he hung himself). His car will be blown up quietly, and there he is dear.
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 22 December 2015 14: 57 New
    0
    You can’t judge the material by the title and a couple of quotes from the text. So Erdogan tried to substitute NATO for himself, and so it is understandable. And he received good from the mattresses. Only for the purposes of dispersing. that the goal was to substitute Erdogan specifically.
  14. gukoyan
    gukoyan 22 December 2015 15: 25 New
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    That raze this Turkey!
    To avenge genocides, it’s evident in their blood, to cut those who are weaker than them, and act like rats from the underside.
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    2. lexx2038
      lexx2038 22 December 2015 15: 58 New
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      Дык вроде Ванга "ванговала" что турков сами же п!ндосы будут бомбить нещадно вместе со своими коалициями. И мы тоже в стороне не останемся, в смысле тоже туда чё-нить накидаем. Поживем, увидим. Политика, это такая женщина-с...
      1. Junior, I
        Junior, I 22 December 2015 19: 32 New
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        http://pismadljaliz.livejournal.com/2793402.html
        Read, interesting. There were soothsayers before Vanga.
  15. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 December 2015 18: 41 New
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    Great American insight! These great discoveries would be of use. For Russia it is unlikely to be of benefit until it makes it for itself.
  16. ViewfromUSA
    ViewfromUSA 22 December 2015 23: 41 New
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    Gentlemen
    Not only Russian journalists from state-owned news channels, but also Western ones, represented by Seymour Hersh, can speak the language. The footnote below (English) explains that it is idle talk or blah blah.
    http://www.vox.com/2015/12/21/10634002/seymour-hersh-syria-joint-chiefs
    Without evidence, one cospiracy and conspiracy - just like in the next article about the landing of amers on the moon. If you are interested in spending your time on this BS, then go ahead ...