American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS

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American journalist Seymour Hersh in the London Review of Books publishes material in which she tells why France decided to act in Syria without actually applying to NATO. According to Hersh, the French president first tried to coordinate the details of the operation with US President Obama. Hollande asked Obama together with the EU to declare war on ISIL, however, according to an American journalist who refers to his own sources in the White House, the US president refused. For Obama, it is important that all Europeans conduct actions in Syria and Iraq exclusively in the format of an American coalition that solves its own tasks.

The same Hersh writes that to turn to the command of NATO Hollande was not at all due to the fact that NATO is Turkey. Information Agency TASS leads a piece of material Seymour Hersh:
Europeans emphasized not to apply for the same declaration of war in NATO, which includes Turkey. Turkey is the main problem. This is stated in the Committee of the Chiefs of Staff (CLS) of the United States.


American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS


The submission also says that even last year, representatives of the secret services of the Sunni states were invited to the CIA, where they discussed the issue of activities in Syria. The CNS states that the Americans allegedly asked Saudi colleagues to stop supporting the openly terrorist groups in Syria, but this request was ignored by the Saudis. In addition, the material reports on the involvement of Turkey in supporting Dzhebhat al-Nusra under the guise of "moderate opposition", as well as in establishing relations with the so-called "Islamic state".

Against the background of these statements, which appeared in the Western press, the words of the ex-prime minister of Iraq Nouri al-Maliki draw attention to themselves. He stated that Erdogan, supporting the terrorists, is today engaged in the genocide of the Iraqi and Syrian people in the same way as the then Turkish rulers against the Armenians did 100 years ago.
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  1. +10
    22 December 2015 14: 07
    Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children
    1. +15
      22 December 2015 14: 12
      This is not a splinter, this is a rift. And we won’t stop adding our wedge there. Disagreements in the camp of the enemy are only at hand.
      1. 0
        22 December 2015 14: 18
        Quote: Michael m
        This is not a splinter, this is a rift. And we won’t stop adding our wedge there. Disagreements in the camp of the enemy are only at hand.

        And you seem to know a lot about perversions wassat
        Welcome drinks
        1. +3
          22 December 2015 14: 27
          What nonsense !!!
          According to Hersh ... Hollande asked Obama to declare war on ISIS with the EU,

          Europeans emphasized did not begin to apply for the same declaration of war in NATO

          War declares one state to another.
          Did they already recognize ISIS as a state?
          And what kind of Europeans are these? French people?

          And does TASS write this?

          Some kind of divorce.

          ISIS can be destroyed as terrorists.
          That is why they are first recognized as terrorists and then simply destroyed.
          There is no need to declare war and no one. As they say, they didn’t come out with a snout.

          And some American HERSH recognizes them as a state.
          1. +1
            22 December 2015 14: 38
            It is noteworthy that the Americans impose everything and impose on the government of Syria and Iraq their "bear" services in dealing with ISIS, although they are not asking the United States about it. And allegedly "by mistake" the pilots of the American coalition are bombing and bombing the government troops of Syria and Iraq and their facilities, like elephants in a china shop - so that the flows of Syrian and Iraqi oil stolen by the DIASH militants both flow and continue to flow across the Turkish border and get to the world market - and they don't need anything else.
            It’s all about the oil colonial business - and nothing but the continuation of this bloody oil colonial business. If you want to keep your business in your interests - hidden, as if from the outside, take it under your control or even lead. This is how the United States acts.
            And Europe and NATO countries are also simply satisfied with the robbery of Syrian and Iraqi oil with the help of DIASH fighters at DEMP prices.

            It has already been established that their legal and illegal profits from the purchase of ISIL oil through Turkish ports have: Israel, France, Greece, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Cyprus, USA.
            See
            https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/14/kak-turciya-i-izrail-grabyat-siriyu-i-irak-e

            ksportiruya-neft-islamskogo-gosudarstva-rassledovanie

            At the same time, Erdogan and his family got rich in a bloody way precisely at the OIL stolen in Syria and Iraq at DUMPING prices and its transportation to recipient customers. Erdogan acts as an international raider, and DIASH fighters are his hired fighters, who are in his service. And the United States with the Pentagon, the head of NATO, simply "roofs" Erdogan with his business.
            Erdogan is an absolute war criminal and Turkish dictator, under the auspices and in the service of the United States.
            1. 0
              22 December 2015 15: 02
              Tatyana! Do you want to say this is a modern version of the plan INCREASABLE. When partners and opponents united against Russia. It turns out like this.
              1. +2
                22 December 2015 16: 24
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                Tatyana! Do you want to say this is a modern version of the plan INCREASABLE. When partners and opponents united against Russia. It turns out like this.

                I don’t know who you call “partner” and “adversary” in this case.
                And so everything in life is temporary. Each partner is real people with their own interests in their lives. Today his personal interests coincide with yours, but tomorrow, quite the opposite, no. A partner is more of a temporary ally. To believe that a "partner" will always treat you ONLY as a friend is just the height of naivety! Especially in business and politics.
                And by the way, that’s precisely why, Alexander III, when he gathered his close associates, he liked to say to his ministers: “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ” He was smart politician and Sovereign!
                1. +1
                  22 December 2015 18: 19
                  “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ”


                  So Savely about the same-
                  - all the others at this jump will split, radishes, at the very first out! laughing
          2. +2
            22 December 2015 19: 49
            Temples

            ISIS has all the attributes of a state. But the problem is that diplomatic dialogue cannot be conducted with ISIS.

            Their basic ideology, "who is not with us is against us." In this case, they cannot be recognized as a state, which means that their name is terrorists.

            In the USA there is no single state foreign and domestic policy. This is clearly seen in recent international events. This situation is an extremely alarming sign. If the party of war violates parity, then the rest will have to join. And then the United States will turn into a single, powerful military mechanism. With a powerful ideology of patriotism and a huge, strong technologically advanced industry.

            There is nothing to rejoice about. One can only ask common sense to prevail over stupidity.
    2. +2
      22 December 2015 14: 14
      "Turkey was seen as the main obstacle to Obama's Syrian policies." Eva it's like. The Turks, proving their loyalty to the American authorities, shoot down our plane, and then those on whose command it was shot down lower all the dogs to Ankara, accusing it of complicity in terrorism. The essence of this fable is this: American friendship is a very changeable concept. Today you can be a friend and ally, and tomorrow you can be a sworn enemy. All Americans are in this.
      1. 0
        22 December 2015 18: 50
        The USA stupidly merges Turkey, it is like a bone in the throat. Turks crush their plans.
    3. +2
      22 December 2015 14: 17
      Quote: Sinister
      Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children



      At the moment, Turkey as part of NATO is a huge kettlebell for the states. But to expel - from the Shtatovs it’s not enough for that. Wimps.
      1. 0
        22 December 2015 15: 06
        And where does this weight (Turkey) drag the USA? Maybe Turkey is one of the fingers of NATO's fist?
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    5. +2
      22 December 2015 14: 23
      Why scratch your tongues in vain? There will be no NATO without Turkey. From here and draw conclusions.
  2. +2
    22 December 2015 14: 07
    If intelligence SGS considered
    Turkey is the main problem in the fight against IS
    it would behave somewhat differently. And not only intelligence, but also the Pentagon, the State Department, Congress, the Senate, and even the children-grandchildren-wives of a gray-haired black woman.
    1. +4
      22 December 2015 14: 15
      Yes, everything is pin .. do.siya knows. And he thinks as they need, they pursue their goals.
      1. +2
        22 December 2015 14: 19
        Quote: Pirogov
        Yes, everything is pin .. do.siya knows. And he thinks as they need, they pursue their goals.



        Chaos is a means! Oil is the main goal.
    2. +1
      22 December 2015 14: 29
      Quote: Vladimir
      If intelligence SGS considered
      Turkey, the main problem in the fight against IS would then behave somewhat differently. And not only intelligence, but also the Pentagon, the State Department, Congress, the Senate, and even the children-grandchildren-wives of a gray-haired black woman.

      Or maybe they don’t need a fight with IS, or rather its result?
      1. 0
        22 December 2015 15: 10
        And why should they fight ISIS if they are already trading at dumping prices with them? Probably an empty barrel is more expensive than the oil it contains. Sense of chopping a chicken (ISIS) laying golden eggs !?
    3. 0
      22 December 2015 19: 55
      V.

      How else? What does the US have to say about Turkey?

      What is bad turkey? Already said.

      What is good Turkey and a NATO country? They also said.

      What is Syria and Russia right in their politics, what did they say? Is it really? Yes.

      Here the problems are deeper than conversations. This policy is causing serious concern.
  3. +1
    22 December 2015 14: 10
    Turkey will remain in NATO’s orbit, most likely Erdogan will eat something inedible.
  4. +6
    22 December 2015 14: 13
    Quote: Sinister
    Here, too, NATO received its splinter in the OPU - Turkey wassat and you don’t brush it off: your bitch children

    Americans are bluffing! America is the most important puppeteer in the Middle East. It’s not what they say publicly, but what they do behind the scenes.
  5. Boos
    +4
    22 December 2015 14: 13
    Yes, everything is simple here ... The States made a mess in the Middle East, hoping to fuck it. And here Turkey, quietly decided to grow territories or influence ... And most importantly, once destroyed a single anti-Israeli-Arab world.
    1. +1
      22 December 2015 14: 26
      the united Arab world ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate.
    2. 0
      22 December 2015 19: 59
      Boos

      And that your question does not arise?

      The States made a fuss, but Turkey itself takes off the cream?

      To determine the situation, you need to achieve recognition of errors. The United States cannot be punished, but dialogue with the United States is still possible. And by the way, they themselves go to the meeting. Do not oppose and perceive criticism.
  6. +1
    22 December 2015 14: 14
    only one journalist writes this, and they can shut up, "Western democracy" is that. I recall a story about Turkish journalists who were imprisoned for an inconvenient truth (about the supply of weapons to terrorists by the special services).
  7. 0
    22 December 2015 14: 14
    Perhaps a scapegoat is being prepared from Turkey if something goes wrong with the states. In the meantime, we see the unfiled comprehensive support of the Turks. That is, a platform for otmaza is being prepared.
  8. 0
    22 December 2015 14: 16
    And in the photo Erdogan is a copy of Telman Ismailov, the owner of Cherkizon.
    1. +1
      22 December 2015 14: 23
      maybe he is? and he brought down drying in retaliation for closing the market.
  9. +2
    22 December 2015 14: 21
    American journalist in the London Book Review magazine ...
    is it like a literary newspaper or something?
    oh well, Americans know that the Turks support nusra, etc.
    what's next? sanctions, exclusion from NATO, anti-Turkish atom?
    it's funny.
    The United States is also tied to this as Turks and Saudis. France may show off, even if it leaves NATO again, this will not change the position of the alliance, as not Paris decides there.
  10. +1
    22 December 2015 14: 26
    It seems to me that it is designed for domestic use in France, but Hollande needs to stay afloat, and therefore this news will get proper international coverage vryatli
  11. +1
    22 December 2015 14: 32
    American journalist says US intelligence considers Turkey as the main problem in the fight against IS
    Where does he say that? Probably in the pages of VO? or sitting at home - quietly talking to his animals!
    Otherwise, you can get a pair of life-long in Turkey, for example, for supporting extremism.
    Democracy, publicity however ...
  12. +1
    22 December 2015 14: 51
    Both Turkey and the minke whales decide their interests there - this is understandable. And it seems that Erdogan is being prepared for sacrifice - they are starting to hang dead dogs on him (or he hung himself). His car will be blown up quietly, and there he is dear.
  13. 0
    22 December 2015 14: 57
    You can’t judge the material by the title and a couple of quotes from the text. So Erdogan tried to substitute NATO for himself, and so it is understandable. And he received good from the mattresses. Only for the purposes of dispersing. that the goal was to substitute Erdogan specifically.
  14. -1
    22 December 2015 15: 25
    That raze this Turkey!
    To avenge genocides, it’s evident in their blood, to cut those who are weaker than them, and act like rats from the underside.
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    2. 0
      22 December 2015 15: 58
      Duc like Wang "vangoval" that the Turks themselves will bombard the Ndos mercilessly along with their coalitions. And we, too, will not stay on the sidelines, in the sense that we will also throw a thread there. Wait and see. Politics, this is such a woman ...
      1. 0
        22 December 2015 19: 32
        http://pismadljaliz.livejournal.com/2793402.html
        Read, interesting. There were soothsayers before Vanga.
  15. 0
    22 December 2015 18: 41
    Great American insight! These great discoveries would be of use. For Russia it is unlikely to be of benefit until it makes it for itself.
  16. -2
    22 December 2015 23: 41
    Gentlemen
    Not only Russian journalists from state-owned news channels, but also Western ones, represented by Seymour Hersh, can speak the language. The footnote below (English) explains that it is idle talk or blah blah.
    http://www.vox.com/2015/12/21/10634002/seymour-hersh-syria-joint-chiefs
    Without evidence, one cospiracy and conspiracy - just like in the next article about the landing of amers on the moon. If you are interested in spending your time on this BS, then go ahead ...

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