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In Syria, almost all modifications of the T-72 and T-90 tanks are currently fighting.

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In 2015, Syria has a unique situation: government forces in the fight against terrorists use almost all modifications of Russian tanks T-72 and T-90, this was not in any military conflict, writes Roman Katkov in his article for Messenger of Mordovia.


In Syria, almost all modifications of the T-72 and T-90 tanks are currently fighting.


“The Syrian army began to receive T-72 tanks (export version)“ Ural-1 ”with an optical sight-rangefinder TPD-2-49 at the beginning of 80's. Compared with the machines in service with the Soviet army, they were made in a simpler and, accordingly, cheaper version, ”the publication says.



Then, T-72M, T-72М1 and T-72А appeared in Syria. “The main difference from the original version was the use of the TPKD-1 laser rangefinder sight on them, which significantly increased the accuracy of shooting. In addition, there were other innovations, such as a modernized gun and smoke grenade launchers on T-72М1 and T-72А, ”the author reports.



Later, after the collapse of the USSR, the T-72A tanks received dynamic protection, becoming, in fact, the T-72AB.

In the autumn of this year, the Contact-72 protection blocks were installed on the T-1М1 tanks in service.



“Around the same time, Russian T-90A tanks appeared in Syria. A little later, the active participation of T-72B in combat operations against terrorists was recorded, and Russian T-90 1992 samples of the year were observed in the Syrian Aleppo area, ”writes Katkov.



According to the author, referring to military experts, “the Syrian situation, with the simultaneous use of almost all modifications of the T-72 and T-90 tanks, is sure to go into history world tank building ".
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  1. 1976AG
    1976AG 22 December 2015 13: 41
    +6
    Wonderful! And allies help and battle tests will pass!
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 December 2015 13: 45
      +5
      According to the author, citing military experts, "the Syrian situation with the simultaneous use of almost all modifications of the T-72 and T-90 tanks will certainly go down in the history of world tank building."


      There are also earlier modifications.
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 22 December 2015 14: 05
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        According to the author, citing military experts, "the Syrian situation with the simultaneous use of almost all modifications of the T-72 and T-90 tanks will certainly go down in the history of world tank building."


        There are also earlier modifications.

        Well yes. About fifty dollars forgotten.
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    3. lelikas
      lelikas 22 December 2015 13: 54
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      Wonderful! And allies help and battle tests will pass!

      And how many Kalashnikovs can collect statistics !!!!
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 13: 56
      +1
      The Ministry of Defense needed to send the battalion of the modernized T-72B3 to Syria to check their real protection from American anti-tank systems.
      Tank biathlon is certainly good, but it's a sport. Weapons need to be checked in real combat conditions, and if deficiencies are identified, immediately eliminate them on serial samples.
      1. anfil
        anfil 22 December 2015 14: 31
        22
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        The Ministry of Defense needed a battalion of modernized T-72B3 to send to Syria, to check their real protection against American anti-tank systems.
        Tank biathlon is certainly good, but it's a sport. Weapons need to be checked in real combat conditions, and if deficiencies are identified, immediately eliminate them on serial samples.


        Security should be checked at the training ground, and not on real people, this is the World of tanks, the crew incapacitated is resurrected, but in life it turns out much more severe. In a real battle, the character of a person is more verified as he will behave in a stressful situation, otherwise no super technique can help.

        Here are robots in real battle to experience with minimal involvement of manpower in direct contact with the enemy.

        In Syria, the Russian army threw battle robots into battle

        link: http: //maxpark.com/community/8/content/4903869

        <...> The militants did not have the slightest chance, all their movements were controlled by drones, artillery strikes were inflicted on the detected militants, literally 20 minutes after the start of the attack by combat robots, the militants fled in horror, abandoning the dead and wounded. On the slopes of the height of 754,5, almost 70 of militants were counted, the Syrian soldiers did not have dead, only 4 were wounded.<...>
        1. Denis Obukhov
          Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 14: 49
          +2
          Quote: anfil
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          The Ministry of Defense needed a battalion of modernized T-72B3 to send to Syria, to check their real protection against American anti-tank systems.
          Tank biathlon is certainly good, but it's a sport. Weapons need to be checked in real combat conditions, and if deficiencies are identified, immediately eliminate them on serial samples.


          Security should be checked at the training ground, and not on real people, this is the World of tanks, the crew incapacitated is resurrected, but in life it turns out much more severe. In a real battle, the character of a person is more verified as he will behave in a stressful situation, otherwise no super technique can help.

          Here are robots in real battle to experience with minimal involvement of manpower in direct contact with the enemy.

          In Syria, the Russian army threw battle robots into battle

          link: http: //maxpark.com/community/8/content/4903869

          <...> The militants did not have the slightest chance, all their movements were controlled by drones, artillery strikes were inflicted on the detected militants, literally 20 minutes after the start of the attack by combat robots, the militants fled in horror, abandoning the dead and wounded. On the slopes of the height of 754,5, almost 70 of militants were counted, the Syrian soldiers did not have dead, only 4 were wounded.<...>



          I did not know PLUS about robots !!!

          No wonder people get money.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 December 2015 16: 47
          12
          I looked at the link.
          Robots - wedges with remote control
          look like this.
          Their application is a big step forward in tactics. Well done.
        3. sergant67
          sergant67 22 December 2015 18: 12
          +1
          The news certainly inspires .... I would certainly like to believe.
          However, there are doubts that this type of weapon was used in Syria in December 2015. The photo of the guys is not true. Fucked up .... Cheap ... When there is an official announcement then we will be glad. In the meantime, "-"
    5. Shuttle
      Shuttle 22 December 2015 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: 1976AG
      Wonderful! And allies help and battle tests will pass!

      Here is the answer in the dispute which of the three tanks is better - T-64, T-80 or T-72.
      The answer is obvious. One that is more reliable and cheaper is the T-72. Well and his descendant T-90, of course.
      Than? Its power plant. V-shaped multi-fuel diesel! Not GTE, not opposed.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 December 2015 14: 00
        +4
        Quote: Shuttle
        Here is the answer in the dispute which of the three tanks is better - T-64, T-80 or T-72.
        The answer is obvious. One that is more reliable and cheaper is the T-72. Well and his descendant T-90, of course.

        Your post upsets the Baron! recourse
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 22 December 2015 14: 08
        +6
        Better one that performs functional tasks and saves the life of the crew.
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 22 December 2015 14: 08
        +1
        Better one that is more reliable and cheaper? And if more expensive, but more effective, worse? And if it is very reliable, but not effective?
      4. Oden280
        Oden280 22 December 2015 14: 52
        0
        T-90 is the same T-72, but with elements of a fire control system from T-80U. Moreover, at the time of the start of production, it was much inferior to the T-80U in terms of security and mobility. Its only advantage is the price.
      5. Captain nemo
        Captain nemo 22 December 2015 20: 32
        +1
        Quote: Shuttle
        Here is the answer in the dispute which of the three tanks is better - T-64, T-80 or T-72. The answer is obvious. One that is more reliable and cheaper is the T-72. Well, his descendant T-90, of course. Than? Its power plant. V-shaped multi-fuel diesel! Not GTE, not opposed.

        And what will the T-80 do for the conditions of Russia - a quick start of a gas turbine engine and an instant departure to the right position in the bitter cold in your opinion?
        For mech-water on the battlefield, it doesn’t matter what is in the feed and with what efficiency, other qualities are valued there and not saving kilocalories per wat of liquid fuel.
        The T-80 for Asia is probably not the kind of car that can be judged to be a super duper there, like the Merkava for the Bellorussky swamps.
        1. Shuttle
          Shuttle 23 December 2015 17: 02
          0
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          And what will the T-80 do for the conditions of Russia - a quick start of a gas turbine engine and an instant departure to the right position in the bitter cold in your opinion?
          For mech-water on the battlefield, it doesn’t matter what is in the feed and with what efficiency, other qualities are valued there and not saving kilocalories per wat of liquid fuel.

          For mech-water, the fuel provides a double boiler. But he and his MTO do not care what and how many tanks to refuel, how to repair, etc.
          T-80 is a great car for a breakthrough, for lightning-fast special operations. But for defense, a long siege of the city, a large march-throw on its own, this car is not better, but worse than the diesel T-72. She has almost half the power reserve. High energy in the engine - high fuel consumption. There are no miracles.

          Quote: Captain Nemo

          The T-80 for Asia is probably not the kind of car that can be judged to be a super duper there, like the Merkava for the Bellorussky swamps.

          But the T-72 is good in the desert.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 22 December 2015 14: 00
      +9
      To promote the "urban" T-72 to the markets, Uralvagonzavod could afford to send a dozen of these tanks to Syria, this is the best advertisement.

      Interestingly, how does a bulldozer blade affect visibility for a driver?
      1. rigin
        rigin 22 December 2015 19: 42
        +2
        These are the problems of those who are outside. wink
  2. Altona
    Altona 22 December 2015 13: 43
    +1
    And this is very good. It makes sense to try out all the developments in business and to separate the flies from cutlets. What justifies itself, what not. How does it work in extreme conditions - heat, sand, rarefied air ...
    1. Sinister
      Sinister 22 December 2015 13: 48
      -6
      Quote: Altona
      ... thin air ...

      What's this? Write in Russian
      It seems that he found his admirer of the anti-Russianist, it seems that he likes to communicate according to the churkbashists, but we forget the Russian language, victims of the exam
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 22 December 2015 13: 56
        +5
        Quote: Sinister
        ... thin air ...
        What's this? Write in Russian

        In Syria, along with oil, daish also steals air, so it becomes thin there.
        1. Sinister
          Sinister 22 December 2015 13: 58
          0
          Quote: lelikas
          Quote: Sinister
          ... thin air ...
          What's this? Write in Russian

          In Syria, along with oil, daish also steals air, so it becomes thin there.

          This is five points. drinks
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 December 2015 14: 05
        12
        Quote: Sinister
        What's this? Write in Russian

        Kamrad, have I been banned by Yandex? smile
        "Sparse" all life meant "less dense, less dense". The higher we are above ground level, the more rarefied the air becomes.
        Quote: Sinister
        It seems that he found his admirer of the anti-Russianist, it seems that he likes to communicate according to the churkbashists, but we forget the Russian language, victims of the exam

        But the victims of the exam just confuse "rarefied" and "discharged".
        And a successor with a receiver. laughing
        1. Altona
          Altona 22 December 2015 15: 24
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          "Sparse" all life meant "less dense, less dense". The higher we are above ground level, the more rarefied the air becomes.

          ---------------------
          The forum member Zlyden is not aware of the physical processes in general and the geography of the region in particular. Especially for him, I inform you that the density of the atmosphere varies in height, and to ensure the combustion process requires a strictly defined amount of oxygen. And therefore, in the conditions of mountains, the tank engine receives less air and the fuel does not burn completely, the engine begins to produce less power.
      3. Altona
        Altona 22 December 2015 15: 04
        +1
        Quote: Sinister
        What's this? Write in Russian
        It seems that he found his admirer of the anti-Russianist, it seems that he likes to communicate according to the churkbashists, but we forget the Russian language, victims of the exam

        ------------------------
        First, study the climatic features, then broadcast something there. Mountains and hills are there, the temperature contrast too. Is the geography completely forgotten? Or not having studied?
  3. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 22 December 2015 13: 43
    -3
    It would be necessary to test the T-14 and T-15.
    And yet it is not clear why none of the 72-90 Arena variants is used. Syria is a proving ground to look for more.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 13: 56
      0
      Also asked this question. It seems that the "Arena" has been abandoned altogether. And on the T-14 KAZT of the "Drozd" type, although the "Arena" was more effective ... In short, this is still to be dealt with and dealt with.
    2. Sinister
      Sinister 22 December 2015 14: 02
      -1
      Quote: Vladimir
      It would be necessary to test the T-14 and T-15.
      And yet it is not clear why none of the 72-90 Arena variants is used. Syria is a proving ground to look for more.

      Well, of course it is necessary that the Americans get a sample ... Vladimirovich, are you a schoolboy? Only schoolchildren can distribute tanks left and right because they don’t know how much they cost and don’t understand that secrets are not just wasted.
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 22 December 2015 14: 06
        +2
        Sinister laughing I will not even comment on your opus laughing
        1. Sinister
          Sinister 22 December 2015 14: 20
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir
          Sinister laughing I will not even comment on your opus laughing

          Thank you, I don’t want to debate with shkolota hi
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 22 December 2015 14: 13
        0
        The Arena model was back in the 90s and was supplied by the UAE together, or rather, on the BMP-3
  4. mpzss
    mpzss 22 December 2015 13: 43
    -8
    so let’s check what the T-72 is capable of, otherwise one is not satisfied that they are still entering the military!
  5. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 December 2015 13: 46
    18
    Quote: mpzss
    so let’s check what the T-72 is capable of, otherwise one is not satisfied that they are still entering the military!

    Check what are capable of? Where have you been for the last 30 years? T-72 around the world is fighting continuously.
    I understand about Armata to write such a thing, but about the T-72 ... I would have to cut off the general epaulettes and give a broom to you.
  6. DenZ
    DenZ 22 December 2015 13: 49
    0
    T-90MS, presumably in Syria, no.
    1. trenitron
      trenitron 22 December 2015 13: 55
      0
      Quote: DenZ
      T-90MS, presumably in Syria, no.

      And it can’t be ... they were produced in pieces
    2. max702
      max702 22 December 2015 13: 55
      0
      Quote: DenZ
      T-90MS, presumably in Syria, no.

      They are made in 2-3 copies ..
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 22 December 2015 13: 59
        0
        They are made in 2-3 copies ..

        And it can’t be ... they were produced in pieces

        I thought so, but it’s a pity, also a novelty.
  7. nemec55
    nemec55 22 December 2015 13: 50
    0
    What do you have to experience, you can think that they were cooked raw from the factory and set off. All the tests were completed at the development stage, now we can only talk about improving individual components using any bad shells from the gum of the help of our fucking partner
    Hurray Hurray to experience what kind of experience there is a war going on where there is such a slogan THE ENEMY MUST BE DESTROYED AT ANY PRICE. The price is T72 or T90
    1. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych 22 December 2015 13: 53
      +3
      No test can replace a real combat situation.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 14: 03
      +1
      In ALL armed conflicts, if possible, any military technology is tested. Only after this the technique is considered proven.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 22 December 2015 20: 53
        0
        1976AG

        Well noted.

        T-72, T-80 are tanks. T-14, this is technology. This tank fights only in conjunction with support units. In an independent battle, the T-14 turns into an advanced version of the T-80, which is clearly an expensive pleasure. T-90, this is an intermediate link. As an element of military technology, identity will come down.
  8. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 December 2015 13: 51
    +4
    Quote: Altona
    And this is very good. It makes sense to try out all the developments in business and to separate the flies from cutlets. What justifies itself, what not. How does it work in extreme conditions - heat, sand, rarefied air ...

    T-72 in all the hottest countries managed to fight and prove its reliability. T-90 tanks, before being sold to the Indians, were tested in the desert, the Indians needed a very reliable engine. Test T-90 passed perfectly.
  9. gukoyan
    gukoyan 22 December 2015 13: 51
    +2
    Fresh article ... (((
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2015 13: 52
    0
    I hope to find out about the results of the application soon. There was information that the T-90s are so good that Iran wants to buy.
  11. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 December 2015 13: 53
    +3
    T-90?

    Shed by?

    1. Platonich
      Platonich 22 December 2015 14: 01
      +5
      Or maybe even flew!
    2. Ivan Tucha
      Ivan Tucha 22 December 2015 14: 15
      +1
      gorgeous frame
    3. avva2012
      avva2012 22 December 2015 15: 32
      +2
      WHY, we can do such a suspension on a tank, but Lada, we have again "Logan" with hell knows what is involved! (this, I, as an agent of the State Department, I ask), see the instructions.
  12. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 December 2015 13: 53
    +3
    Gentlemen, generals and marshals would also write about the AK-47, which is a great opportunity to experience it in Syria or Iraq.
    1. 0255
      0255 22 December 2015 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: chikenous59
      Gentlemen, generals and marshals would also write about the AK-47, which is a great opportunity to experience it in Syria or Iraq.

      In fact, "Kalash" have long been used in Syria, Iraq, and almost the entire Middle East, of various modifications and countries of origin.
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 22 December 2015 14: 33
      +1
      Quote: chikenous59
      Gentlemen, generals and marshals would also write about the AK-47, which is a great opportunity to experience it in Syria or Iraq.

      There are so many of them that a book, not an article, will succeed.
  13. moskowit
    moskowit 22 December 2015 13: 54
    0
    A decent collection of samples of Soviet-Russian tank building!
  14. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 22 December 2015 13: 55
    +9
    In the first two photos the old T-72 are really in the export version with the optical TPD-2-49.
    Shoot from it right away - just dancing with tambourines))).
    Wah, as you remember, you will tremble this ... "wheel" over the Cheburashka.

    I’ll slightly correct Roman Katkov, not TPDK-1, but TPD-K1. The mistake that specialists also sin.
    I just remembered the double bass from the teacher of BTViT for such my blooper and a hacked bump)))
    A good sight, simple and reliable, forgiving a lot of mistakes to the gunner.
    good
    1. Platonich
      Platonich 22 December 2015 14: 02
      +1
      Wah! What a handsome man !!!
    2. Shuttle
      Shuttle 23 December 2015 17: 23
      0
      Quote: Aleks tv

      I’ll slightly correct Roman Katkov, not TPDK-1, but TPD-K1. The mistake that specialists also sin.
      I just remembered the double bass from the teacher of BTViT for such my blooper and a hacked bump)))
      A good sight, simple and reliable, forgiving a lot of mistakes to the gunner.
      good

      In my 87-88, this was exactly what I was on the 7 channel.
      Above the "Cheburashka" there are tumblers. "Drive", "Mirror of the stabilizer", "Dela-D mechanism". For some reason, there is no headband. Maybe for clarity?
      http://army.lv/large-photos/t-80.13720.jpg - вот с налобником.

      Buttons on the remote control (Cheburashka) "rangefinder", "reset rangefinder", "machine gun", "cannon". I remember everything! God forbid it will be needed - I have not forgotten, I will not miss!
  15. engineer74
    engineer74 22 December 2015 14: 09
    +2
    Something modest, near Donetsk "Armats" travel in thousands and proud Lyas do not allow them to break through to Europe!
    And here T-72/90 successfully roll out the barmaley!
    I think that after this campaign, all "tank ratings" will fall into place!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 22 December 2015 14: 19
      +3
      As dill stated that nuclear weapons were used at the Donetsk airport, it is so amazing how they didn’t notice the flying saucers there, not like Armata.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 22 December 2015 14: 29
        +1
        You seem to be mistaken, EMNIP, nuclear weapons were used in the Luhansk AP, and in the Donetsk mysterious "Cheburashka". hi
        But, in general, it will be interesting to see a comparative expert assessment of the database of the tank divisions of Syria now and Israel in the extreme Lebanon war (Cast Lead ??? 2006).
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 December 2015 14: 47
          +1
          Cheburashka is a new MLRS which surpasses Solsepek several times.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 22 December 2015 15: 14
            +1
            And if Cheburashka does not help, then we will send there (I didn’t want, of course) to the Crocodile Gena, and then for sure all the Pindyk enemies!
            1. Deniska
              Deniska 22 December 2015 17: 54
              0
              And if Cheburashka does not help, then we will send there (I didn’t want, of course) to the Crocodile Gena, and then for sure all the Pindyk enemies!


              ... "Anfiska" to me !!!! ...
  16. begemot20091
    begemot20091 22 December 2015 14: 14
    +3
    Quote: lelikas
    Quote: Sinister
    ... thin air ...
    What's this? Write in Russian

    In Syria, along with oil, daish also steals air, so it becomes thin there.

    shshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshsh
    I will not minus, but mistakes? ....
    It's time again for the desk.
    "by by" - IN addition to (a preposition or adverb according to Dahl's dictionary) in addition to oil (comma) and further in the text ...
    And about the air:
    Sparse and discharged

    Question
    How to: sparse or discharged?
    Sparse and sparse - 1) to reduce the participle from the verb (to do it less often, separating one another from the other, to place it at a considerable distance from each other; to reduce the density of something, to make it less saturated); 2) not frequent, not thick; 3) less dense, less saturated. Sparse crops; rarefied gas, air.
    Discharged - from defusing “smartly dress”: discharged ladies and defusing “deprive of physical charge; remove the charge from the firearm ”; “Destroy the stress state of something”: a discharged gun; low pressure.
    Correctly
    rarefied air, but a discharged gun.
  17. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 22 December 2015 14: 15
    +1
    "Government forces in the fight against terrorists use practically all modifications of Russian T-72 and T-90 tanks, this has not happened in any military conflict"

    I don’t see anything supernatural here. A bloodless army fights all that it has. And the T-90 from the new deliveries and the T-72 of the early 80s. If the Syrians had T-34, they would have used them. And, I have no doubt that with success.
    And the fact that our entire tank lineup takes part in the database is what I see as a big plus for the further sale of our BT. It is known that they are more willing to buy samples of weapons that happened to fight. I dare to suggest that Syria, followed by Iraq, Iran and Libya, are the first candidates among countries with a sagging economy to acquire our BT, which is currently being mothballed.
  18. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 December 2015 14: 31
    +1
    Quote: 0255
    Quote: chikenous59
    Gentlemen, generals and marshals would also write about the AK-47, which is a great opportunity to experience it in Syria or Iraq.

    In fact, "Kalash" have long been used in Syria, Iraq, and almost the entire Middle East, of various modifications and countries of origin.

    That was sarcasm
  19. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 22 December 2015 15: 20
    0
    I like the tank with chains more
  20. soroKING
    soroKING 22 December 2015 15: 24
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    T-90?

    Shed by?


    low so harsh good
  21. Specialist 77
    Specialist 77 22 December 2015 16: 25
    0
    in addition to advertising the Russian tank, one more task is being solved .... purely technical .... such a test drive as real hostilities will not be able to provide more than one training ground .... it remains only to take off the parameters .... based of which, improve new tank models .....
  22. Bort radist
    Bort radist 22 December 2015 17: 17
    +1
    Quote: trenitron
    Quote: DenZ
    T-90MS, presumably in Syria, no.

    And it can’t be ... they were produced in pieces

    1. Disant
      Disant 22 December 2015 21: 47
      0
      something bare wires going to the bar with panoramic cameras were not impressed. she is definitely a stick there.
      there is no defense on top of the tower, in front of the sights - a lot of bare armor

      the commander's hatch is very interesting. why is it put in the middle position with an "umbrella"?
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