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The LDPR proposes to amend the Constitution, recognizing the Russian people and the primacy of domestic law over international

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The leadership of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) faction in the State Duma of the Russian Federation proposes to amend the Russian Constitution, withdrawing clauses on the priority of international law over Russian and on giving a special role to the notion “Russian people”. At the same time, it is noted that in a number of world powers, national law is declared by fundamental laws above international law. RIA News cites a fragment of a statement by a representative of the LDPR


We will prepare amendments to the Constitution (...) This will introduce the concept of "Russian people" into the preamble. Today sounds "We, the multinational people of Russia." We propose to write "We, Russians, and all the other peoples of Russia" (...) and remove the notion that international law has an advantage over national law.


The LDPR proposes to amend the Constitution, recognizing the Russian people and the primacy of domestic law over international


Recall that a couple of weeks ago, the Constitutional Court of Russia recognized the legitimate right to ignore the decisions of the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights) in the event that such decisions conflict with the Basic Law of the country. This fact can be considered the first sign of raising the status of national legislation in our country.

Deputies from the Liberal Democratic Party came out with another proposal. So, deputy Ivan Sukharev turned to the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia with a proposal to open a special prison for militants of the so-called "Islamic state" on the Solovetsky Islands. This newspaper reports "News". According to the deputy, a special prison will help prevent the very possibility of the spread of terrorist ideology among the prisoners.

It should be recalled that at the moment persons convicted under the article “terrorist activities” are serving their sentences along with those convicted of committing other crimes. Often there are cases of recruitment directly within the walls of the colonies, which leads to an even greater spread of terrorist ideology.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 22 December 2015 13: 00
    42
    Zhirinovsky, of course, is a populist, but still he has real forecasts and real initiatives. The collapse of 404, he predicted at the beginning of the two thousandth. He predicted exactly the one that will happen in 2016-17. I personally like this initiative. Just not with this power.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 22 December 2015 13: 12
      +1
      Zhirinovsky Russian? laughing The same short joke as: Jewish loader laughing
      1. Temples
        Temples 22 December 2015 13: 15
        52
        I agree with Volfych.
        We live in Russia, and since we have become "democrats", it is simply necessary in the law to indicate that we are the Russian people.
        Kandelaki co-comrades openly declare that there are no Russians in Russia.


        Zhirinovsky Russian? laughing The same short joke as: Jewish loader laughing

        Zhirinovsky speaks and thinks in Russian.
        So, he is more likely Russian than Jewish.
        1. Altona
          Altona 22 December 2015 13: 33
          +6
          Quote: Temples
          We live in Russia, and since we have become "democrats", it is simply necessary in the law to indicate that we are the Russian people.
          Kandelaki co-comrades openly declare that there are no Russians in Russia.

          ---------------------------------
          The question is complex and interesting of course. During the Soviet era, nationality was written in the passport, and many were recorded as Russians, in order to level the origin. Therefore, for example, it was ridiculous for me to see these records and to see by the dialect that a person only speaks Russian and is embarrassed (or for other reasons) hides his nationality, because in Nizhny Novgorod, besides Russians, there are many ethnic Tatars, Mordvinians and Votyaks. In Saratov and Ulyanovsk Chuvashes. And so on, assimilated Finno-Ugric peoples. We must be a nation, not split up by nationalities. Otherwise, Tatar nationalism, Chuvash nationalism grows. Maybe it is necessary to declare, or maybe it is not necessary, because there is always incitement to hatred. And the Russians are being driven out. I would write that "Russians are a state-forming people with a special cultural mission and whose existence is the guarantor of the Russian state." But this is probably not in the Constitutions of other states. In any case, the protrusion of rights will serve as an accusation of exclusivity and racial superiority, well, you understand further.
          1. PAM
            PAM 22 December 2015 13: 47
            +1
            Well, someone may be offended by such a wording, there are many nationalities and all are Russians! So, then it is better to write "Russian people" or, as an option, add another "Soviet man" to the list of nationalities (the image of morality laughing ) for people who are not 100% able to attribute themselves to representatives of a particular nationality (for example: mixed marriages, etc.).
            1. Lord of Wrath
              Lord of Wrath 22 December 2015 14: 12
              18
              Quote: PAM
              Well, such a formulation may offend someone, there are many nationalities and all Russians!

              In 1991, the collapse of the union occurred precisely on the basis of nationality, but, as an example, in Uzbekistan 1 / 3 of the population of the same people, and other nationalities live in other national republics. And it does not offend anyone.
              Zhirik is right in one way- DO NOT attribute RUSSIANS to FORBIDDEN nationalities anymore.

              And in the constitution to write:
              -the historical mission of the Russian people as the creator of Russia,
              -status of Russian culture and the Russian language as the main state-forming factors in the Russian Federation

              So it was with all the kings, and will sharply reduce the possibility of collapse on a national basis as in 91.
              1. Temples
                Temples 22 December 2015 14: 48
                +3
                The collapse occurred not on a national basis.
                Russia was divided along the borders of "republics".
                The republics were "laid down" when the country was cut after Romanov's abdication.

                So it is necessary to assign Russia to the Russians.

                The whole world is a Russian covenant with us, but here many are ashamed and not ethical and not watered correctly.

                Lived bl ...!
              2. UralMan
                UralMan 22 December 2015 20: 49
                -8
                Quote: Lord of Wrath
                - the historical mission of the Russian people as the creator of Russia,

                but it doesn’t tell you anything ... It’s interesting

                The number of representatives of the people on one hero of the Second World War.

                1) Ossetians - 11088
                2) Russian - 12204
                3) Ukrainians - 13586
                4) Belarusians - 17072
                5) Bashkirs - 21632
                6) Kabardians - 23455
                7) Mordva - 23874
                8) Armenians - 23920
                9) Georgians - 24995
                10) Tatars - 26791
                11) Jews - 28042
                12) Chuvash - 31126
                13) Karels - 31589
                14) Kazakhs - 32301
                15) Turkmen - 45133
                16) Azeris - 51719
                -----------
                And who created Russia - defended the homeland?
                Read the hero on so many representatives
            2. Altona
              Altona 22 December 2015 14: 53
              +3
              Quote: PAM
              Well, someone may be offended by such a wording, there are many nationalities and all are Russians! So, then it is better to write "Russian people" or, as an option, add another "Soviet man" to the list of nationalities

              -------------------------
              This will be complete garbage. This again will turn out the same nesting doll into which the West will drive us, and then it will make it out into its components with its media machine. He is still trying to prove that there are Pomors, Siberians, Cossacks outside the context of the Russian people. The idea is being advanced that Karelians, Vepsians and Komi are part of some kind of Scandinavian superethnos. From scratch, Ukraine will build us. You are not Russian, you are such a Pomor, a Ukrainian, a Siberian, a Cossack, and these vatoimpertsy, oppressors, etc. etc., will leave you without jeans, sneakers, iPhones and so on.
              1. Temples
                Temples 22 December 2015 18: 10
                0
                And so on, assimilated Finno-Ugric peoples.

                What knowledge!
                Accurately assimilated ugro-fin.
                Taking off my hat hi


                But this is probably not in the Constitutions of other states.


                What is the difference, what is and what is not in other constitutions?
                1. Altona
                  Altona 22 December 2015 20: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Temples
                  What knowledge!
                  Accurately assimilated ugro-fin.

                  -------------------
                  Just imagine, I’m just an assimilated Ugro-Finn, I’ve talked about this many times. I’m Permian Komi. And by the way, the Ural people completely fit into the context of my warnings with their comments.
          2. Boos
            Boos 22 December 2015 14: 07
            +4
            There will be no Russian people, there will be no Russia either, "the nationalities will take away"!
            1. Altona
              Altona 22 December 2015 15: 13
              0
              Quote: Boos
              There will be no Russian people, there will be no Russia either, "the nationalities will take away"!

              ---------------------------
              I wouldn’t do such crap as writing any beautiful words in constitutions. I simply would have put in the national republics the governors of Russian nationality and slowly weighed down local nationalism of a radical kind, now there is a law on terrorism. All attempts to unjustifiably exaltation from below. In my opinion because of this fuss then.
            2. UralMan
              UralMan 22 December 2015 19: 42
              0
              Quote: Boos
              There will be no Russian people, there will be no Russia either, "the nationalities will take away"!

              Who are you talking about?
              About those nazmen-oligarchs ... stole billions over a hill?
              Or national migrant workers bezshtannye from Asia?
          3. UralMan
            UralMan 22 December 2015 18: 48
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            I would write that "the Russians are the state-forming people

            what generators?
            What did you imagine, believing in this nonsense statistics
            To 77,71%, the percentage was attributed to the kindly half-not Russian, and if not more ...
            Is there a PURE RUSSIAN - "true RUSAK"
            Do you smell something? - FORGOT ??? ... "true Aryans"
            -------------
            My grandfather died, folded his head-so that these TRUE CREATURES WAS NOT AND THE SPIRIT ON THE EARTH.
            He was a Nagaybak, just like Dmitry KARBYSHEV ... and I'm a Nagabuck
            I am proud of my nationality ...
            AND I DO NOT NEED MORE THESE TRUE ..
            ------------------------
            Nationality Number Share in the population of Russia
            Russian 111 016 896 77,71%
            Tatars 5 310 649 3,72%
            Ukrainians 1 927 988 1,35%
            Bashkirs 1 584 554 1,11%
            Chuvashs 1 435%
            Chechens 1 431%
            Armenians 1 182 388 0,83%
            Avars 912 090 0,64%
            Mordva 744 237 0,52%
            Other peoples 11 681 073 12,11%
            1. UralMan
              UralMan 22 December 2015 19: 46
              -2
              What is it .... minus?
              Are you against my grandfather?
              Yes, I will tear for it ... let me be banned.
              What kind of fascists are you?
              DO NOT HIDE .... su ...
            2. Bath
              Bath 22 December 2015 19: 54
              +3
              and how do you prove that you are a pure Nagaybak? so Tatars and Finno-Ugric peoples will fling themselves there, or you’ll be a pure blood race only nagaibaks think so you are a racist then calm down my friend and take pills and the Russians are and will be and Russia will never become Nagaibakia
              1. UralMan
                UralMan 22 December 2015 20: 19
                -6
                Quote: Bath
                Russians are and will be and Russia will never become Nagai-bakia

                There was no such state ... but there was GREAT TARTARIA ... and they all spoke the same language .... and the language was Turkic ... and you speak 90% of it .... part of this language is English by Europeans Germans etc.

                Learn the story ...
                And don't give stupid advice. From now on.
                -------------------------------
                And who I had ... so it's not about you. Rummage around in your family.
            3. Altona
              Altona 22 December 2015 20: 28
              +1
              Quote: UralChel
              what generators?
              What did you imagine, believing in this nonsense statistics
              To 77,71%, the percentage was attributed to the kindly half-not Russian, and if not more ...
              Is there a PURE RUSSIAN - "true RUSAK"
              Do you smell something? - FORGOT ??? ... "true Aryans"

              ---------------------
              I didn’t imagine anything, I just know the genesis of where such moods come from. And your comments fully justified my warnings. hi
              PS Hello to you, if you are from Chelyabinsk.
              1. UralMan
                UralMan 22 December 2015 20: 36
                -4
                Quote: Altona
                your comments fully justified my warnings

                What warnings are you talking about ... decrypt?
          4. UralMan
            UralMan 22 December 2015 20: 42
            -3
            Quote: Altona
            In Soviet times, they wrote a nationality in a passport and many were recorded by Russians, which level the origin.

            ----------
            This is the truth .... where there are so many "Russians" .... slanted eyes ... and there too ... I am Russian ... here's the statistics.
            1. Altona
              Altona 22 December 2015 22: 20
              +2
              Quote: UralChel
              This is the truth .... where there are so many "Russians" .... slanted eyes ... and there too ... I am Russian ... here's the statistics.

              --------------------------
              Well, briefly, I can not describe. And all the more decipher. But the statistics in this case are not lying, because the number is ethnically not so big. And if there are several Mordvinians recorded by Russians as singer Kadysheva or Chuvash composer Igor Nikolaev, then this will not greatly affect the statistics. By the way, why do you separate yourself from the Tatars? Nagaybaki is not something like that, but a kind of Tatars.
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        2. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 22 December 2015 13: 46
          +3
          Quote: Temples
          Zhirinovsky speaks and thinks in Russian.

          1. Avantageur
            Avantageur 23 December 2015 22: 12
            0
            This moment is very touching ...

        3. siberalt
          siberalt 22 December 2015 13: 52
          +4
          Zhirinovsky, as the founder of a liberal democratic party, distances himself from liberals and democrats. What is it like? what In domestic politics of Russia without a fat, as in a circus without a clown. One thing is for sure - he is not stupid.
          1. kepmor
            kepmor 22 December 2015 14: 58
            +3
            Oh, in vain you are so much about the VVZh!
            This is actually a "Kremlin herald" - voicing the secret ideas of our rulers, which for various reasons they themselves do not want to convey to the people.
            A kind of "laxmus indicator" - and how will the "crowd" react ?! For this they hold him near the throne and forgive a lot!
        4. Boos
          Boos 22 December 2015 14: 45
          0
          The guarantor says something else, I hope there is no need to quote?
          Quote: Temples
          I agree with Volfych.
          We live in Russia, and since we have become "democrats", it is simply necessary in the law to indicate that we are the Russian people.
          Kandelaki co-comrades openly declare that there are no Russians in Russia.


          Zhirinovsky Russian? laughing The same short joke as: Jewish loader laughing

          Zhirinovsky speaks and thinks in Russian.
          So, he is more likely Russian than Jewish.
          1. Temples
            Temples 22 December 2015 14: 55
            0
            Do you guarantee that the "guarantor" will remain after the next elections?
            And what will the next "guarantor" say?

            Once again, let me quote Plato:
            “Democracy is carried out when the poor have won, they will destroy some of their opponents, disperse others, and equalize the rest in civil rights and in the replacement of public office, which, for the most part, takes place in a democratic system by lot»

            Who will toss us another lot ???
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 22 December 2015 15: 23
              +2
              Quote: Temples
              Who will toss us another lot ???

              Naive!
              The times of lots passed long ago and irrevocably.
        5. akmalinin
          akmalinin 23 December 2015 13: 52
          0
          Stalin spoke of himself as a Russian Georgian.
      2. Vend
        Vend 22 December 2015 13: 28
        16
        Quote: siberalt
        Zhirinovsky Russian? laughing The same short joke as: Jewish loader laughing

        Russian is not only a people, it is a state of mind, a way of thinking. Prince Bagration, dying, bequeathed to his son to be Russian. Time is now no easier than 1812 year.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 22 December 2015 13: 42
        +9
        Quote: siberalt
        Zhirinovsky Russian?

        Hitler, too, to put it mildly, was not entirely Aryan blood. And he came to power with the frank support of certain national financial groups. However, this did not prevent him from waging a struggle for the purity of the Aryan race and destroying 6 million Jews alone.

        This is so, by the way. About national issue.

        But in fact - Zhirik, as usual, goes overboard. But remember how they laughed at his proposed consolidation of regions, and then "suddenly" federal districts appeared. And the notorious "boots in the Indian Ocean"? Now something is not funny to anyone ...

        He sometimes behaves like a clown - such a character ... But to listen to and read him - he says quite sensible things, which then "suddenly" are done here ... Maybe Zhirik is such a genius statesman ... There is an opinion that the Kremlin he is used to test ideas in society ... But the fact remains - he thinks about the country, and not about the house in Nice ...

        By the way, about the nationality of Zhirinovsky. Still look for a more Russian empress than the daughter of the current Polish governor, Szczecin Sophia Augustus Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst ....
      4. would
        would 22 December 2015 13: 47
        +4
        He has a Russian mother! And among Jews, nationality is determined by mother laughing
      5. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 22 December 2015 14: 22
        0
        I wonder who works as loaders in Israel?
        ps and Zhirinovsky is still in church. By the way, like Evgeny Primakov, a true patriot of Russia. so nationality sometimes doesn’t mean anything.
      6. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 22 December 2015 15: 54
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        Zhirinovsky Russian? laughing The same short joke as: Jewish loader laughing

        Well, why is a joke? I have Jewish acquaintances who work as loaders, and drivers, and workers in factories. And you know some Jews are more Russian than some Russians.
        I have a friend, he received a residence permit, went to Israel, returned a few years later, and when he asked about the residents there he could not answer without a mat, said: “Yes, they went, non-Russians, it’s impossible to live with them. Ur .. .y.
      7. Bath
        Bath 22 December 2015 19: 48
        +1
        It’s high time that the national republic didn’t look with its government here the titular nation there the titular nation of some Russians brought the typhoon here like Eli and Totoshka
      8. gladcu2
        gladcu2 22 December 2015 21: 00
        0
        siberalt

        It does not matter.

        If your actions and thoughts are fair, then your behavior does honor to your nation.

        A nation swallows nationality.

        True Zhirinovsky, an emotional person.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 22 December 2015 13: 12
      0
      Zhirinovsky's Russian - the same short joke as the "Jew-loader" laughing Business - he is a business in Africa.
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 22 December 2015 13: 13
      10
      one of the rare cases when I agree with Vladimir Volfovich one hundred out of a hundred !!!
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    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 December 2015 13: 14
      10
      Quote: maximNNX
      fully support hi

      We support many, but the majority in the Duma is unlikely to pass or be buried in coordination.
      1. fraer
        fraer 22 December 2015 13: 56
        +4
        ............................
    6. DS22
      DS22 22 December 2015 15: 06
      +1
      This idea is already 20 years old ... This was the main political demand of RNU, for example.
    7. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 22 December 2015 15: 48
      +1
      It inspired him to watch the last "Besogon", and not he alone
    8. Avantageur
      Avantageur 23 December 2015 21: 35
      0
      We propose to write "We, Russians, and all other peoples of Russia" (...) and remove the notion that international law takes precedence over national law.

      It’s scary to imagine that if Vladimir Volfovich, at school, weren’t fed with apple jam pies ... Long live, school canteens of the Soviet Union! crying
    9. KVS
      KVS 23 December 2015 23: 15
      0
      and what about amending the Constitution?
      The Constitution, as well as the decisions of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, are not even put up by courts of general jurisdiction!
      There are many examples of this when courts of general jurisdiction, in particular the Supreme Court, in its decisions pointed out that the Constitutional Court differently interprets the rule of law when, as in the Constitution and the FCL, it is indicated that decisions of the constitutional court are binding on all state bodies and courts of all levels!
  2. maxim1987
    maxim1987 22 December 2015 13: 01
    +4
    fully support hi
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 22 December 2015 13: 10
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: maximNNX
      fully support

      Well, the leader needs to be supported, as for the discipline of support under your arms there strictly, they say.
  3. avvg
    avvg 22 December 2015 13: 02
    12
    Zhirinovsky is right in many matters!
  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 December 2015 13: 02
    18
    Behind ! He is of course Zhirinovsky. Everything is very loud and pathos with him - but in fact on business! And a good idea!
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 December 2015 13: 03
    11
    It is high time. There is nothing to bow to foreign courts and their decisions.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 22 December 2015 14: 50
      +1
      This idea has been in the air for a long time, but no one dared to voice it openly. Why do some uncles beyond the hill, can decide how we live and who can be judged and who cannot? We will understand without them! The recent situation with FIFA is an example of this - when Americans in other countries catch people and judge them there according to their laws ... Are we red-haired? We want it too!
  6. kit-kat
    kit-kat 22 December 2015 13: 05
    +1
    Excellent! Only the prison does not need to be located on Solovki. To Tatrstan, Chechnya or Dagestan it, although "overlaps" are possible there. And close observation of her.
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 22 December 2015 13: 12
      +1
      I understood why on Solovki! Is Islamists supposed to treat Christianity?
  7. moskowit
    moskowit 22 December 2015 13: 05
    0
    There is a reason. Especially in isolation of persons convicted of terrorist activities.

    As for the Constitution, we will swing for a long time. Five years later, many presenters of various political programs will begin to exaggerate this topic and Vladimir Volfovich, as always, will be right!
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 December 2015 13: 07
    +8
    No matter how they relate to Zhirinovsky, but he often offers reasonable things. Yes, and his predictions often come true.
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 22 December 2015 13: 07
    +5
    Volfych, as usual, anneals. State-forming people-Russians, it is. But we have officially a federal structure with the presence of national republics, so its wording does not roll. To adopt Zhirik’s interpretation, it is necessary to completely change the structure of the state, declare it unitary, and instead of national republics, form provinces with governor-generals in the current federal districts.
    Will not work.
    1. Walking
      Walking 22 December 2015 13: 46
      +3
      It is time to end with the national republics, how we ended up with the USSR, we remember.
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 22 December 2015 15: 06
      +2
      it is necessary to completely change the structure of the state, declare it unitary, and instead of national republics, form provinces with governor-generals in the current federal districts. One hundred percent, for! With both hands. Without this, there will be problems, partners, for now, still live, unfortunately."We, Russians, and all other peoples of Russia" In my opinion, this should be done only after the state is made unitary. As long as the national elites are strong enough, such a definition can lead to serious unrest, just these elites being initiated.
      In our country, with officials, they cannot do anything. It is necessary to start a real fight against corruption, but it has no nationality. The population will support such a struggle. And, against this background, it is possible to cut back on small-town "independent" appetites. Here, then: "We are Russian ...", or something else.
      For the primacy of Russian laws over international, this can be done, even now. There will be no problems. Does not matter. no one will lift the sanctions, so our hands in this matter are untied.
  10. sa-zz
    sa-zz 22 December 2015 13: 07
    0
    Today we are hearing "We, the multinational people of Russia". We propose to write "We, Russians, and all other peoples of Russia"

    Wolfovich - you are wrong, there is no discrepancy in the "multinational".
    remove the notion that international law has an advantage over national law

    And here - 100% - for! Even before it was necessary!
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 22 December 2015 14: 37
      0
      There is no need to try to develop the reflex of Pavlov’s dog here.
      Someone disagrees with something, write and discuss.
  11. pts-m
    pts-m 22 December 2015 13: 08
    -2
    It will be more reasonable if the peoples of Russia get the name RUSSIAN. In the likeness of pin.dos.tana. they do not seem to have a nationality and are written ... American ... and in Russia in our country to abolish nationality. from it there is only one civil war and insults with insult.
    1. prishelec
      prishelec 22 December 2015 14: 06
      -1
      Quote: PTS-m
      It will be more reasonable if the peoples of Russia get the name RUSSIAN. In the likeness of pin.dos.tana. they do not seem to have a nationality and are written ... American ... and in Russia in our country to abolish nationality. from it there is only one civil war and insults with insult.

      I completely agree! we have it (Russians) like (Americans), but Russians don’t like it.)) Well, the Russians do not want to be Russians, then I’m not Russian either, and especially not Russian ...)))
      Moreover, Zhirinovsky for us Russians is not a representative of the Russian people!
    2. Homo
      Homo 22 December 2015 19: 30
      0
      Quote: PTS-m
      It will be more reasonable if the peoples of Russia get the name RUSSIAN. In the likeness of pin.dos.tana.

      It would be better if you referred to the USSR than to the USA. It’s not good to take such sucks as an example.
  12. Fisman
    Fisman 22 December 2015 13: 09
    +3
    We must defend ourselves against the double standards of the West! We have been convinced more than once that the Western "partners" do not call the same actions on the part of friends crimes, and if others do it - guard ... tyranny ... we need sanctions, etc.
  13. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 22 December 2015 13: 09
    +3
    Zhirinovsky at least offers something. You can argue about the content, but the rest from election to election quietly sitting in holes and rustling bills like rats.
  14. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks 22 December 2015 13: 10
    +2
    Although Zhirinovsky is a throat, but things are often voiced quite sober and not a gram of liberal. As for the peoples - it may be too much, but about the priority of national laws - that's for sure.
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 22 December 2015 13: 13
      +2
      No busting. And he has more practical ideas than absurd ones by an order of magnitude.
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2015 13: 10
    +7
    There will be a referendum - I will vote - for.
    1. dengy12
      dengy12 22 December 2015 13: 14
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There will be a referendum - I will vote - for.

      support GCD
      collection of signatures for referendum http://refnod.ru/
      We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

      2 required articles:

      - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of generally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws:
      "4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes other rules than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied."
      (ban on the external management of Russia).

      - Cancellation of article 13, part 2, prohibition of ideology:
      "2. No ideology can be established as state or obligatory." (Without ideology, a country has no goal, no national idea).

      2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

      - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources:
      "2. Land and other natural resources may be in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership."

      (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

      - Cancellation of Art. 75 part 2 on the independence of the Central Bank:
      "2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it performs independently of other government bodies."

      (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).
      1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
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        Quote: dengy12
        Support NOD


        He supported himself, sent Vkontakte to all reliable friends.
      2. _my opinion
        _my opinion 22 December 2015 15: 36
        0
        Quote: dengy12
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        There will be a referendum - I will vote - for.

        support GCD
        collection of signatures for referendum http://refnod.ru/
        We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

        2 required articles:

        - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of generally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws:
        "4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes other rules than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied."
        (ban on the external management of Russia).

        - Cancellation of article 13, part 2, prohibition of ideology:
        "2. No ideology can be established as state or obligatory." (Without ideology, a country has no goal, no national idea).

        2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

        - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources:
        "2. Land and other natural resources may be in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership."

        (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

        - Cancellation of Art. 75 part 2 on the independence of the Central Bank:
        "2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it performs independently of other government bodies."

        (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).

        According to paragraph 3 of Art. 6 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, a citizen of the Russian Federation cannot be deprived of his citizenship.
        Also need to adjust.
  16. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 22 December 2015 13: 15
    +3
    So, deputy Ivan Sukharev turned to the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia with a proposal to open a special prison for militants of the so-called “Islamic State” in the Solovetsky Islands.
    Strongly against. The place is holy, there is no need to defile it. Are there any more islands in our North
    1. askort154
      askort154 22 December 2015 13: 24
      +5
      Stirbjorn .... Strongly against. The place is holy, there is no need to defile it. Are there any more islands in our North

      Father New Earth - just right. Let them tidy up, ex
      nuclear test site.
    2. ruskih
      ruskih 22 December 2015 14: 23
      +2
      I am also categorically against. At least one of you, at least once was on Solovki? There is not only a Holy place, there is a place of sorrow, there is a place of pride. The young men of the Northern Fleet are those who graduated there and if someone is still alive do not be silent. DO NOT let this place be defiled.
  17. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 22 December 2015 13: 17
    12
    You know, gentlemen, comrades, forum users, but from the history of the meetings of the State Duma of the Russian Federation I can recall:
    1. The LDPR faction is the ONLY one in the Duma voted for the Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which removed the Central Bank from under the leadership of the US Federal Reserve. all the other "oppositionists" dashing through at ... lunch, respectively, the Law did not pass. it is a fact.
    2. Vladimir Volfovich certainly loves shocking and publicizing, this is his manner, but still they take initiatives that are clear to us and to my majority of the population of our country.
    and finally 3. yes, in the Liberal Democratic Party there are many who clung to the party, but for some reason no one mentions those figures who are in the EP ... request
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 22 December 2015 13: 56
      +2
      Plus, Volfovich proposed introducing a state monopoly on the production and sale of alcohol. I’m afraid PEDROsy will not let his projects go, time will pass and they will give them away as their own as always. Zhirinovsky’s generation of ideas goes off scale, just sometimes our state (government) is not ready for them, ideas.
  18. Gardamir
    Gardamir 22 December 2015 13: 20
    +3
    a special prison for the militants of the so-called “Islamic State” in the Solovetsky Islands.
    then on New Earth.
  19. DenZ
    DenZ 22 December 2015 13: 21
    +1
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    So, deputy Ivan Sukharev turned to the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia with a proposal to open a special prison for militants of the so-called “Islamic State” in the Solovetsky Islands.
    Strongly against. The place is holy, there is no need to defile it. Are there any more islands in our North

    I agree that there are many places "beautiful" in Russia.
  20. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 22 December 2015 13: 23
    +3
    Zhirik is a typical and average market analyst.
    However, very often repeats clever thoughts about really needed transformations.
    I still do not understand - but what is the problem of changing the Constitution the way the majority of the population wants?
    Nothing at all! There is simply no strength, no will ...
  21. nemec55
    nemec55 22 December 2015 13: 30
    +5
    I am not a German German. But the meaning in the constitution was laid down taking into account the unification of the peoples of Russia under the name Russian and someone is trying to divide. This is of course my opinion, but it’s dangerous to play with it.
  22. GUKTU
    GUKTU 22 December 2015 13: 31
    +3
    here it would still be in the constitution, the bowels were returned to the people .... not marketing dreams what
    1. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 22 December 2015 13: 35
      0
      And when did the people have the bowels to return them? ... Or in which country do the bowels belong to the people?
      1. vitaliy.rnd
        vitaliy.rnd 22 December 2015 14: 02
        0
        My question is personally to who puts the cons. Can you answer a question or is it a disadvantage from the inability to give an adequate answer?
  23. Sukhovei
    Sukhovei 22 December 2015 13: 37
    0
    I think it is wrong to talk about the leadership of the Russians and about everyone else, as about something small and insignificant. It smacks of nationalism sad But on the primacy of our right over the ECHR - I fully support it.
    1. would
      would 22 December 2015 14: 05
      -1
      It smacks of nationalism


      You speak as if it is something bad.
  24. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 22 December 2015 13: 38
    +3
    I am for Zhirinovsky’s initiative. Moreover, international law, as such, does not exist. It is a myth.
  25. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 22 December 2015 13: 40
    +2
    Only we have the term "Russified" - this is about the smiles at Volfovich
    But in general, the Liberal Democratic Party are right! I fully support them! Yes, Russia is multinational, but the basis of the state is still Russian people and it is quite fair to consolidate this in the constitution!
  26. Killing50
    Killing50 22 December 2015 13: 40
    -5
    well done Zhirik. and there is not far from ours; RUSSIA FOR RUSSIAN ONLY:
  27. Penzioner
    Penzioner 22 December 2015 13: 42
    +3
    The proposal is good, but you need to refine it, so as not to offend other nations.
  28. Selendis
    Selendis 22 December 2015 14: 01
    -1
    Everything is of course in a rainbow light, only ordinary people will it be better from this? The police have already been renamed the police, well, they will confirm that yes, there is also a nation - Russians (why not Russians, not Slavs, etc. it is not clear), then what? Will the food taste better? Will the light be brighter and the grass greener?
  29. rom8726
    rom8726 22 December 2015 14: 07
    +2
    Zhirinovsky forever
    1. BIGLESHIY
      BIGLESHIY 22 December 2015 16: 14
      0
      Many perceive Volfych as a clown, a jester, BUT only a jester under the tsar could tell the truth. And we must pay tribute to him, he tells her, cuts the truth the womb and there is no arguing with this, and we agree with many things.
  30. erased
    erased 22 December 2015 14: 08
    +4
    1. Russia is not the exact name of the country. By the way, the whole world calls us correctly - Russia, Russia. Even in Syria they say so !! But we have Russia. This is a mistake, it arose at the beginning of the 17th century.
    2. The people in Russia are called Rusy, Rusyns, Rusichi.
    3. But even this is not so important. In Russia-Russia live Russian-Rusich. All! Yes, there are a lot of nationalities. Ossetians, Chuvashs, Tatars, Yakuts and many others. But all are Russians! And actually the vast majority of Russians. So the initiative of Zhirinovsky is true in essence and in meaning.
    1. Hello
      Hello 22 December 2015 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: erased
      All! Yes, there are a lot of nationalities. Ossetians, Chuvashs, Tatars, Yakuts and many others. But all are Russians! And actually the vast majority of Russians. So the initiative of Zhirinovsky is true in essence and in meaning.

      This is a big question, as it were, whether there is Russian affiliation by blood or affiliation by language and culture. If you ask me, then in my opinion the second belonging to the language of culture. Therefore, I don’t quite understand this throwing of Mr. Zhirinovsky, Russian culture has always been wonderful in absorbing and assimilating small cultures, many of these peoples are forgotten and their customs live. In addition, the peoples in Russia are so mixed that it’s quite difficult to understand who is who.
      Instead of writing in the constitution, I would deal with the young generation of all nationalities, it is necessary to cultivate self-awareness in people. After all, many in the Union, and still with pride, I spoke a Soviet man. Why not bring it up in people with pride to speak, I'm a Russian person, regardless of nationality, instead of inscribing nonsense into the constitution. IMHO
      1. UralMan
        UralMan 22 December 2015 20: 07
        -2
        Quote: Hello
        Instead of writing in the constitution, I would deal with the young generation of all nationalities, it is necessary to cultivate self-awareness in people

        Sometimes you surprise me, you are a Jew; you are not a stupid people.
        I look here minus you ...
        sorry for verbiage ... you face in the dirt, and you are the education of self-awareness ...
        What the hell is self-awareness.
        Then a good flock of Zhirikovites gathered, they will write the hell of a bald man in idols and they will pray to him.
        Yesterday, Jews were sprayed ... tomorrow they will still find ... not Russian, and that’s it.
        And you give them lectures on consciousness ...
        They are obsessed with obsession ... with their significance.
        The disease is incurable. Not curable ... alas.
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 23 December 2015 14: 07
          0
          No need to speak for everyone, the fact that there are a lot of Natsiks and monarchists does not mean that there are no Soviet = Russian people on this site.

          And to Natsiks of any nationalities, check your genes, most Tatars will have Slavic, and Russians will have Tatar and Mongolians, because we have been living together for many hundreds of years.
  31. 35lisment35
    35lisment35 22 December 2015 14: 14
    0
    Down with the "American" constitution !!! Respect Zhirinovsky
  32. Selendis
    Selendis 22 December 2015 14: 16
    0
    Quote: erased
    1. Russia is not the exact name of the country. By the way, the whole world calls us correctly - Russia, Russia. Even in Syria they say so !! But we have Russia. This is a mistake, it arose at the beginning of the 17th century.
    2. The people in Russia are called Rusy, Rusyns, Rusichi.
    3. But even this is not so important. In Russia-Russia live Russian-Rusich. All! Yes, there are a lot of nationalities. Ossetians, Chuvashs, Tatars, Yakuts and many others. But all are Russians! And actually the vast majority of Russians. So the initiative of Zhirinovsky is true in essence and in meaning.

    That’s the question of whom to consider Russian, whom Rusich, etc., and to prevent bickering between reasoning and other peoples)), it’s difficult however)
  33. vobels
    vobels 22 December 2015 14: 18
    0
    Normal offers. The LDPR is noticeably different from other parties in terms of the proposals.
    1. UralMan
      UralMan 22 December 2015 19: 18
      -1
      Quote: vobels
      Normal offers. LDPR is noticeably different from other parties in terms of proposal

      Here is a living example for you today.
      What activities are involved in the State Duma
      The State Duma allowed the FSB to shoot at the crowd, women and children
      -------------
      Some idiot at the door of the administration will waving a bag and shouting at the same time ... "I'll blow up ... all the mother's soul ...." .... and right there people in black, and there you are in the crowd with your child ...
      continue to write ...?
      -------------
      What the hell are normal sentences?
      Eh heh heh ... how much nonsense is in us ....
      1. alecsis69
        alecsis69 23 December 2015 11: 44
        +2
        No need to climb into the crowd with a child. Not at all, let alone at the door of the administration.
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 22 December 2015 19: 51
      0
      Quote: vobels
      Normal offers. The LDPR is noticeably different from other parties in terms of the proposals.

      There are words. There are things to do. There are facts.
      Website of the State Duma of the Russian Federation. From today.
      10:01:10
      (as a basis) On the draft procedure for the work of the State Duma for December 22, 2015 Faction of the Political Party "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" (all 56 did not vote;
      11:58:19
      (2 reading table. 1 adopted amendments) On the draft federal law No. 658443-6 "On Amendments to Article 142 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation" (in terms of keeping the average earnings for the employee during the period of suspension of work) Faction of the Political Party "Liberal Democratic Party Russia " (1 out of 56 votes)
      He took a ceiling two votes.
      Indeed, words and deeds are markedly different.
  34. Romanenko
    Romanenko 22 December 2015 15: 07
    -1
    Volfovich can be discussed this way and that, and the question that he raised regarding the Russian people has already been repeatedly tried to put into the constitution. Once, on a business trip in the Arkhangelsk region, I talked with the Pomors, for those who are not in the know, the Pomors are the local indigenous Russian-speaking population, and it is simpler the Russians, but .... the Pomors. I asked one elderly authoritative uncle, why do they need the status of a small nationality, it turned out to be simple - the Russians cannot do anything, since according to our constitution there are none at all, and the Pomors are a small nation, they can fish, go hunting, etc. ... It's just probably worth talking not even about the Russian people, but about the Russian nationality, otherwise the word "people" will again be considered some kind of generalization and again they will not come to anything.
  35. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 22 December 2015 15: 28
    +1
    It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines. So it is not far from Nazism. This requires a clear national policy, and there is no one to carry it out, there are no people who know how to do it. In the Soviet era, all were Soviet citizens. The Russians were a nation-forming nation, but at the same time we were Soviet citizens. All this because there were people who knew what national policy was. We must fight against Russophobia and anti-Sovietism, then such questions will not arise. And so nothing good will come of it, only the extreme forms of nationalism and radicalism will develop, which will lead to collapse.
  36. suharev-52
    suharev-52 22 December 2015 15: 46
    +3
    I look at most of those present on the site, they did not understand the meaning of what Volfovich said. And the meaning is very simple: "Russian is not a nationality, but the meaning of life." We have artificially introduced division by nationality, according to the principle (divide and ... rule). All who live according to Russian truth, and not according to Roman law, are Russians. For whom: do not deceive, do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not lie, etc.
    this is the meaning of life. Help the weak, protect the child, take care of honor, it is these fundamental principles that have formed the Russian ethnos. Well, the example of the Pomors says only one thing, someone really wants to break up our state. I myself am Russian, Vologda. And before the war, the Vologda region (jokingly) was called the seventeenth republic (the sixteenth was Karelo-Finnish). We have more than a hundred dialects in our region, and I sometimes hardly understand some words spoken by a resident of the north or east of the region. But we are all Russians. In the early 90s, the idea of ​​creating the Northern Republic (it was in the early 20s, the capital was Vologda) was also alive, but the people did not support it. So the idea itself is correct. But this is already an ideology. And without the national idea the state cannot exist. Or maybe some comrades are ready to go into battle, shouting - "For the banksters. For the oligarchs." Sincerely.
  37. uge.garik
    uge.garik 22 December 2015 15: 48
    +2
    Zhirinovsky is right ..! Even in the anti-Russian, at this stage, country - an Armenian and a Georgian almost argue before a fight which of them is a larger Ukrainian, having the citizenship of this country ..! ... incl. We are Russians! although they may be Jews, of Russian nationality, and Russians of Jewish nationality, and all the rest are citizens of Russia - Russians ... even Depardieu and Pushkin’s ancestors ..! ... Mind can not embrace Russia ..!
  38. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 22 December 2015 16: 55
    -1
    An old Jewish-Soviet trick, as soon as the real woman is approaching - "brothers and sisters ... let's rally all together ... I drink to the Russian people." As soon as it allows, or they think that it allows - "the one who says Russia for the Russians will either come ... or provocateurs." Liberal Democratic Party decided to play provocateurs, or idiots?
  39. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 22 December 2015 17: 50
    0
    It is high time. He has a lot of sound ideas. But a lot of pathos.
    1. UralMan
      UralMan 22 December 2015 19: 00
      -1
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      It is high time. He has a lot of sound ideas. But a lot of pathos.

      Sound ideas .... he has?
      Yes, he rubs so many years in the Duma
      Dangles like a .but in a barrel
      Either he is a Jew or he is a Pole ... now he is a true Russian
      I would finally decide ...
      Yes, he has a lot of ideas, just like Mr. Behind the bathhouse
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  41. Bath
    Bath 22 December 2015 21: 09
    -1
    Quote: UralChel
    Quote: Bath
    Russians are and will be and Russia will never become Nagai-bakia

    There was no such state ... but there was GREAT TARTARIA ... and they all spoke the same language .... and the language was Turkic ... and you speak 90% of it .... part of this language is English by Europeans Germans etc.


    Learn the story ...
    And don't give stupid advice. From now on.
    -------------------------------
    And who I had ... so this is not your concern. Rummage around in your family. [/ Quote Ek, you have an old man in your head, you know how to love the history of your native land to study published after 91 and written by the local people there are so many of them and what you then Ukrainians are different who dug the seas and Ukraine from Xiang to the Don and farther on and how the border went then between Ukraine and Tartaria, by the way I never spoke in Turkic and I don’t intend to continue to congratulate you on lies
    1. UralMan
      UralMan 22 December 2015 22: 11
      -3
      Quote: Bath
      Ek, you have a friend in my head

      I look with your grammar
      Quote: Bath
      love the history of the native land to study published after 91 years

      91 years of what century?
      Quote: Bath
      and written by the local people there are so many of them and how do you differ from the Ukrainians then

      who wrote - I think I was not dumber than you - I am afraid that you are hardly familiar with their works, and God bless you
      Quote: Bath
      By the way, I never explained in Turkic and I’m not going to

      it’s because - because you hardly speak Russian, what to speak about other languages, if you learn at least a dozen words, you can speak and communicate on this subject with you - for now, alas, this is tantamount to talking with a stone.
      ---------------
      Do not count for work smarter
      1. Bath
        Bath 23 December 2015 06: 51
        -1
        Do you work by training manual? if the arguments do not (roll), pay attention to the grammar and spelling of the opponent so what? then I advise you to choke on your Russophobia and quickly dump for example in Israel, judging by your comas, you speak Hebrew well, or at least to Czechoslovakia under whose flag you have stained the site for quite some time
        1. KUOLEMA
          KUOLEMA 23 December 2015 07: 12
          -1
          You play in the wrong field, respected Russophobes are here loved and cherished as a whole and throughout the country you see Uralchel even in his comments 282 (Russian) article threatens Fasten yourself and abroad will help them
          1. UralMan
            UralMan 24 December 2015 17: 27
            -2
            Quote: KUOLEMA
            In the wrong field, you play a respected bathhouse; Russophobes are loved and groomed here both in general and in the country

            and you live in what field ... go and dig your own, and with what paved?
            Positive glasses for yourself, but I’m squishing with minuses ... AND THIS MEANS WHAT? I like terribly to go over mediocrity and sweet-lipped supporters.
            Quote: KUOLEMA
            Be fastened and abroad will help them

            and we are fastening ... and we put the hell with the device abroad ... although I notice there the people are not stupid at all. Well, for example, in Israel and in Britain and other countries.
        2. UralMan
          UralMan 24 December 2015 17: 17
          -2
          Quote: Bath
          you have stained the site for quite some time

          different from you (with a little, not matured), I notice I walk and live under my native flag, and if the site is stupid then if you please ... here many complain about this topic, so as the Chinese say, "a lame bull does not have an extra eye you will sew it ... ". I watch you - roofing felts blindness or limp convolution gnaws ... all the enemies look for.
          Quote: Bath
          quickly dump for example in Israel

          but where to dump I think you need to think about, about "Walk Pole" ... there is just a place for you ... people like them.
          Quote: Bath
          then I advise you to choke on your Russophobia

          Listen ... I learned a new word, I'm really glad for such a deep knowledge.
          you would slap hang tags and metrics at the cattle depot ...
  42. Gavril
    Gavril 23 December 2015 07: 22
    0
    Oh srach began laughing , already some are shouting "Russia is only for Russians", go teach history, where, how and where did the Russians come from! And yes, those who say "Russia is only for Russians" radishes and provocateurs!
  43. Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 December 2015 08: 56
    +1
    Guys, what only nonsense did not read. I have one question - in the trenches of Stalingrad, Moscow, on the Kursk Bulge and further everywhere on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War, everyone fought without division by nation and nationality. As I. Stalin said, the GREAT RUSSIAN PEOPLE won. So we are all Russian and the rights should be equal for everyone, including ethnic Russians. We begin to share, a great sorrow awaits us. Like the great dill, the whole world laughs at them, but they ....
  44. Thompson
    Thompson 23 December 2015 09: 29
    +2
    Yeah. Instead of rewriting all sorts of constitutions and looking for the reasons for failures in NATIONALITIES or the correlation of nationalities, you just need to love your country, do everything for its prosperity, and not tear it and think only about your pockets and bills over the hill, and then no nationality will be to consider themselves infringed and shout press or do not want to be part of Russia.
    Do not confuse cause and effect.
  45. alecsis69
    alecsis69 23 December 2015 11: 47
    0
    I don’t know how with regard to changes in the constitution, here, in order to calculate all the consequences, I don’t have enough education or experience, but regarding the content of the convicted ISIS in a separate colony, the idea is clearly sound.
  46. TiGRoO
    TiGRoO 23 December 2015 14: 18
    0
    It is necessary to replace the Russians with Russian and that's it! As in the USSR there were Soviet citizens. Russian Tatar, Russian Uzbek, etc. And EBNovskoe long lassians, forget forever!
  47. 1536
    1536 24 December 2015 00: 00
    0
    If I have to defend my land and myself, my family, my faith, my language and way of life from the attacked European-American-terrorist rabble, I wonder if I will care about the Constitution, the supremacy of someone's right or the nationality of someone who will help me in this? I think no! An example is the terrorist attack on Donbass and on the people who live there, and their response (so that they do not talk about the "hand of Moscow"). Another example is the people of Crimea.
    And it's time for this Liberal Democratic Party to think about what it will do in 10 years, say, when it will be necessary to transfer the "brain of the party" to other hands. With one brain at all, you won't even go partisan?
  48. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 24 December 2015 20: 59
    0
    I support the initiative of the Liberal Democratic Party! Russian-titular state-forming nation. This is a historical fact.