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Erdogan wants to negotiate

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The Turkish president criticized the Russian air operation in Syria and said that there are no Islamic State militants in Bayyrbudzhak; ethnic Turkmen live there and are being killed. R.T. Erdogan also informed agitated businessmen in Ankara that the export of Turkish goods to Russia will increase, despite the “problems” in relations between the two states.


Erdogan wants to negotiate


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized the Russian air operation in Syria and said that he had already spoken to Vladimir Putin about the Turkmen (aka the Turkomans) living in the north of Syria. About this, as reported "Lenta.ru", R.T. Erdogan said, speaking at a meeting of the Chamber of Commerce of Turkey.

“I personally told dear Putin that there is no“ Islamic state ”in Bayyrbudzhak, there are Turkmen there. Now Turkmen are being killed. They came to our border and said that if they die, they want to stay on their land, ”the Turkish president said.

According to Erdogan, Turkish exports to Russia may increase, despite the crisis in relations between the two countries. The President told Turkish businessmen: “Despite the problems that we have with Russia now, I believe that our exports will increase again. You can not worry.

In addition, in his speech, Erdogan reported on the death toll in Syria Turkmen. "Currently there are dead Turkmen", - quotes him RBC.

As the agency recalls, during a press conference on December 17, V.V. Putin said that Russia had shown its readiness to cooperate with Turkey "on the most sensitive issues for it." However, Ankara did not ask to take into account the interests of the Syrian Turkmen in the course of the military operation. “I have never heard of so-called Turkomans,” the president said. “I know that the Turkmens live, our native Turkmens, in Turkmenistan, and here you cannot understand anything <…> Nobody told us anything”.

There is no understanding with official Ankara, Vladimir Putin said further. He added that he did not see the prospects for the restoration of relations so far: Moscow is “almost impossible to come to an agreement with the current Turkish leadership.

On the eve of Turkey said, notes Newsru.comthat six hundred civilians became victims of Russian bombardments (200 died on Sunday last week).

According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Turkey, Mevlüt avusoglu, Russia carried out about four thousand bombing raids, and 90% of them fell on moderate opposition. According to the minister, in Russia they “dream” of having Bashar Assad regained power in Syria.

“The death toll due to the Russian bombing of civilians exceeds six hundred,” Cavusoglu quotes the publication. - According to some organizations, eight hundred people died. We want the world to know: more than 150 dead are children. ”

Blows russian aviation in Syria are useless, according to journalists Martin Chulov and Kareem Shaheen, whose publication was published in the British newspaper The Guardian (source of translation - "InoSMI").

The authors believe that, having begun to apply air strikes to support Assad, Russia was counting on the completion of the campaign on the ground by Syrian troops. But it did not work out: after almost three months, the Syrian army and the Shiite forces supporting it “did not achieve any serious success in ground operations.”

"At the same time, Russian aviation inflicted new air strikes, which, according to the available data, killed at least 600 Syrian civilians, including 70 people who died on Sunday in the city of Idlib."


Destruction from air strikes intensifies, and the ground troops of the Syrian army do not show "the ability to use the situation for their own purposes." According to the correspondents, the Russian air campaign, which began on September 30, “is largely focused on facilities that are not related to ISIS strongholds.” Representatives of the local armed forces, as well as diplomats say that at least 80% of Russian air strikes are inflicted on territories held by opposition forces unrelated to ISIL. For example, according to the Syrian Network for Human Rights, mosques, bakeries, residential buildings, schools, power plants, and water supply systems are bombed. According to this human rights organization, the list of those killed during the bombings carried out by Russian aviation includes 570 civilians, including 152 children.

“We have never been bombed like that,” said Isa Khalid, one of 300’s thousands of residents in the eastern part of Guta. - The sky above us was like in Hiroshima. Wherever you look, these mushroom-shaped clouds were everywhere. The destruction was incredible. ”

One of the goals of the Russians, the publication indicates, is to put pressure on Turkey, which does not intend to lose influence in the territories close to its border.

This topic continues to other observers. They speak already about the “cold war” of Russia and Turkey.

According to the Turkish columnist Kadri Gursel (“Al Monitor”, the source of translation is Mixednews.ru), Turkey fell between two fires: the Cold War with Russia and the armed conflict with the Kurds.

"Frosts" came on November 24, when Turkey shot down a Russian bomber. And here the Kurdistan Workers' Party cannot be overlooked.

Back in 1980, Syria, an ally of the USSR, offered the PKK asylum, military and logistical assistance. After the collapse of the USSR, the Russian Federation, which was irritated by the Turkish pan-Turkist trends, as well as the hidden support of Turkey for Chechen separatists, granted the PKK legal status on its territory. And it is not surprising that Russia became the first country from which Abdullah Ocalan asked for political asylum (in 1998 year). Now the PKK has once again become an element of the Syrian “equation”: the Syrian twin of this movement, the Democratic Union Party (PYD), turned out to be the dominant force in the province of Rojava (western Kurdistan in Syria) and a participant in the campaign against IG.

Ankara perceives the “Democratic Union” as a threat: after all, Kurdish autonomy is a danger to the territorial integrity of Turkey.

The position of Russia is also important here. The comments of the Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia Alexei Meshkov, made by him on December 16, are known. According to the columnist, his words "clearly indicate that the" Kurdish card "will be played against Ankara."

“Turkey’s actions, and vice versa, its inaction on certain issues represent a real threat” to Russia's national security. This Meshkov said in an interview with RIA "News". In his opinion, the Kurds should not be excluded from the peace process in Syria and from common efforts to fight against Daesh and other terrorist groups.

“Turkey refused to change its policy towards Syria, while continuing to increase pressure on the PKK, which led to an aggravation of confrontation in the south-east of the country, mostly populated by Kurds. The stronger this pressure becomes, the higher the likelihood the PKK will come closer to Russia. ”


According to the columnist, due to the increased military pressure on the PKK, it is quite possible for a group that is ready for external support to emerge as part of the Kurdish movement.

Analyst conclusion: Ankara is “absolutely necessary” to end the cold war with Russia and achieve stability on its own territory. However, “the normalization of relations has become almost impossible, since Russia demands official apologies and compensation for the downed aircraft as prerequisites for improving relations.” Agreeing to such conditions, Erdogan would suffer a “humiliating defeat.” Therefore, Russia now has the opportunity to increase military and political pressure on Ankara. The goal of Moscow is to force Ankara to abandon the support of jihadist groups in Syria. Will Ankara endure a cold war with Russia while simultaneously having a “hot” conflict with the Kurdish Workers Party? It remains only to guess.

Meanwhile, the United States also analyzed the Turkish-Syrian-Russian topic and came to the conclusion that the end of ... Putinism.

"Syria - the beginning of the end of Putinism?" This is the title of an article by Colbert I. King, published in the Washington Post (translation source - "InoSMI").

“Everyone laughed when President Obama warned Russia that it might get bogged down in the Syrian quagmire,” the author writes. But who will be the last to laugh now?

"The Russians return to their homeland in bags for corpses:

• A Russian passenger plane carrying the 224 man aboard crashed in Egypt as a result of an explosion of a bomb planted by Islamic State militants in retaliation for Putin’s military actions in Syria.

• The Russian bomber was shot down by the Turkish Air Force after it crossed the Turkish airspace, which was the first direct attack by a NATO member on a Russian military aircraft in the last 60 years.

• A Russian military helicopter that took off to search for and rescue a bomber pilot was shot down by Syrian rebels.

These sacrifices have become the price that Putin is paying for unilateral and reckless military intervention in the situation in the Middle East, where tensions have now reached their ultimate level. ”


Putin is engaged in Syria, the observer notes, and in Russia inflation is rising, the economy is shrinking, the level of poverty is increasing. Western sanctions "dealt a sizeable blow to the Kremlin." The decline in oil prices (the main source of income for the Russian government) "aggravated the situation." And not without reason, David Lesh in the Foreign Policy notes that “Putin’s intervention in Syria will end in something akin to the Egyptian Pyrrhic victory of 1957 of the year or the sudden strengthening of Soviet influence in the late 1950s, which was accompanied by a sharp increase in foreign policy problems. It will take another half a century, and historians will probably call the Russian actions in Syria in 2015 the beginning of the end of Putinism, as the landing of Egyptian troops in 1957 was the beginning of the end of Nasserism. ”

The Russian government, further writes Colbert King, is forced to spend resources "on the realization of Putin's ambitions." And because of this, it "cannot fulfill its social obligations to the people."

“Obama is right to disagree with Putin’s leading position. Or not trusting Russia's alleged influence in the international arena. Obama is right that he remains cool and continues to work on creating an international coalition of strong powers to launch an offensive against global terrorism. ”


According to King, "Putin has plenty of opportunities to stir up the water," but Russia "cannot compete with the United States as a superpower and leader in the process of resolving the situation in the Middle East."

Summing up, we note that the West is united with Turkey in the negative assessment of Russia's activities in the Middle East. In addition, neither Europe nor the United States, nor, of course, Turkey, do not consider Moscow’s role in the international arena significant.

It cannot be otherwise: Washington does not intend to say goodbye to the status of the world hegemon, or even think about it. Therefore, the reports of “human rights organizations” and similar in tone speeches by representatives of the Turkish authorities will continue. Turkey is not going to miss its interests near the border in the same way as the West is not going to recognize the role of Russia in the fight against IG. Such recognition would be tantamount to political defeat.

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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 23 December 2015 06: 10
    20
    Looks like our videoconferencing robust "knead" everyone at the border. The United States will not just make concessions, Erdogan put a good pig on them with SU 24
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 23 December 2015 06: 49
      16
      According to King, "Putin has plenty of opportunities to stir up the water," but Russia "cannot compete with the United States as a superpower and leader in the process of resolving the situation in the Middle East."

      So "can not" that Kerry personally came with plans for a settlement, for agreement.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 23 December 2015 09: 44
        +2
        To agree with Russia, you must first apologize.
        Western sanctions "dealt a tangible blow to the Kremlin."

        So it may be so.
        But Yatsenyuk would not agree with this, even he believes that, a quote: "All these sanctions, like a dead drug ... it didn't help ..."

        1. marlin1203
          marlin1203 23 December 2015 10: 18
          +3
          The clash of our interests in the Caucasus and the Middle East with the Turkish is natural and lasts more than one hundred years. There are no apparent reasons for its termination. So there is nothing to be surprised. We need to work in this direction. And Erdogan is not so firmly sitting in his chair ...
        2. RDX
          RDX 23 December 2015 11: 52
          0
          Answer Faberge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSJ4MbCJl-U
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        4. red_october
          red_october 23 December 2015 17: 39
          0
          oh, and it preoes ... a million 100 thousand of regular Ross. troops near Mariupol ... divisions that have passed Chechnya, South. Ossetia .... And we deal with them, says
        5. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 23 December 2015 19: 46
          +1
          Who knows Senya smokes? Perdogan to help him!
    2. Vend
      Vend 23 December 2015 10: 26
      +1
      According to King, Russia "cannot compete with the United States as a superpower and a leader in resolving the situation in the Middle East."
      So think further laughing Dumka gets richer.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 23 December 2015 06: 14
    18
    For example, according to the Syrian Network for Human Rights, mosques, bakeries, houses, schools, power plants, and water supply systems are bombed.
    forgot to add excavators.
    1. Almatinets
      Almatinets 23 December 2015 09: 36
      0
      the American coalition specializes in excavators, it looks like the Aerospace Forces have not yet reached this stage of "perfection"
    2. Almatinets
      Almatinets 23 December 2015 09: 36
      +1
      the American coalition specializes in excavators, it looks like the Aerospace Forces have not yet reached this stage of "perfection"
  3. strelets
    strelets 23 December 2015 06: 31
    +8
    Let's support the Kurds - and Erdogan will regret a million times that he touched the Russians.
    1. Dilshat
      Dilshat 23 December 2015 10: 05
      +3
      We will certainly support not only the Kurds, and not only Erdogan will regret it.
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 23 December 2015 16: 10
      0
      Quote: strelets
      Let's support the Kurds - and Erdogan will regret a million times that he touched the Russians.

      neither Europe, nor the USA, nor Turkey consider the role of Moscow in the international arena significant.

      It's time to show the hidden reserves.
  4. avva2012
    avva2012 23 December 2015 06: 32
    +7
    Putin is engaged in Syria, the observer notes, and inflation in Russia is growing, the economy is shrinking, and poverty is increasing. Western sanctions "dealt a tangible blow to the Kremlin." It looks like the mantra "om", repeat 1000 times and you will be fine. You yourself will believe in what you say.
    «Everyone laughedwhen President Obama warned Russia that it could get bogged down in the Syrian quagmire. ”
    Yes, and who laughed? I have not heard. And when was it? If so, then there are smart people in the West.
    "At least 36 cases mass killings of civilians was recorded in November 2015 13 of them, committed by the military forces of the Russian Federation", said the" human rights "organization," Syrian Network for Human Rights. "And if you press it in the dark and against a warm wall, do you think they will tell the truth, who ordered them to pour out this misinformation? Ibid:" in October 2015 , SNHR recorded at least 92 objects, details are below: A- government forces (army, special services, “people's guards”, foreign military formations) fired at 64 objects.
    B- Russian troops: 16 objects C- ISIS 4 object D- rebels 4 object.
    E- unidentified groupings of 4 object. The most important of the sites bombed in October 2015:
    - 26 medical institutions, 19 temples, 19 infrastructural and 12 educational institutions, 9 communal institutions, 3 cultural institutions, 2 refugee camps, 1 international humanitarian group, 1 diplomatic mission.
    SNHR confirms, through its investigations, that there were no military posts in the attacked areas - neither prior to nor immediately at the time of the attacks. The Syrian regime and the perpetrators of the crimes must answer for their brutal attacks before the United Nations and the Security Council. "
    The conclusion is interesting, right? Everyone was amused in a bunch, ISIS, rebels, unidentified groups, which made me especially happy. And, to blame, the "Syrian regime". These dog children, on whose mill they pour water?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 December 2015 10: 31
      0
      Quote: avva2012
      These canine children

      Individuals of the female sex in the "canine" family are called "s.u.k.i"
  5. meriem1
    meriem1 23 December 2015 06: 35
    +6
    "At the same time, Russian aviation inflicted new air strikes, which, according to the available data, killed at least 600 Syrian civilians, including 70 people who died on Sunday in the city of Idlib."


    The Turks are sweeping their tongues like a broom. As in an old comedy. "They robbed. Three cigarette cases, three foreign magnetophone, suede jackets too ..... three." And I wonder how Erdogan soothes the electorate. Oh well.
    1. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 23 December 2015 07: 53
      +1
      Quote: meriem1
      "At the same time, Russian aviation inflicted new air strikes, which, according to the available data, killed at least 600 Syrian civilians, including 70 people who died on Sunday in the city of Idlib."


      The Turks are sweeping their tongues like a broom. As in an old comedy. "They robbed. Three cigarette cases, three foreign magnetophone, suede jackets too ..... three." And I wonder how Erdogan soothes the electorate. Oh well.

      .. Half a cigar 600, "civilians" 600, a jacket also 600
  6. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 23 December 2015 06: 49
    +2
    The Kurds are actually a powerful force, there are many of them, they have been fighting for a long time and really do not like the Turks. In addition, they live in Syria and Iraq, and the Turks will not succeed in crushing them.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 December 2015 09: 42
      +3
      Turks successfully turned divide and conquer.

      The most numerous Iraqi are now the best friends of the Turks, and the leader Barzani and Erdogan regularly meet. Apparently, they want to bite Nineveh with Oil from Iraq. Yesterday, the Turkish Prime Minister said - Turkish troops will not leave Iraq until the Kurdish forces complete what they have begun and take Mosul, moreover, the base will be strengthened.

      The disagreeing southern clans in northern Iraq against Barzani, right up to the fighting, but they are few in number. More than 80% of European and American aid goes to Barzani. Barzani declared the PKK terrorists and actively traps them with subsequent transfer to the Turks.

      Syrian Kurds are divided. Clans at Hasake get along well with the Turks and the IG, passing oil for loot, and also providing protection.
      Other smaller clans are more for themselves.
      Kurds in Aleppo generally meet everyone with fire, they do not recognize not Assad, nor IS, not "moderates", as the city's area was captured at the beginning of the storm, and they keep it.
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  8. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 23 December 2015 07: 07
    +3
    Erdogen has already shown himself, knocked down our "drying" and instead of an apology rushed the United States and here under the skirt, save me from these "terrible and insidious Russians"!
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 December 2015 07: 16
    +2
    I do not even want to comment on the statements of Erdogan and Cavusoglu. There is a complete resemblance to early Ukrainian statements.
    Colbert King:
    These sacrifices became that price ...

    Probably this King completely forgot about the Twin Towers, about the losses of the Americans in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya (one ambassador is worth it). And this is the price for US intervention in BV? It would be better if he said nothing - he would have looked smarter.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 23 December 2015 10: 38
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Probably this King completely forgot about the Twin Towers, about the losses of the Americans in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya (one ambassador is worth it). And this is the price for US intervention in BV? It would be better if he said nothing - he would have looked smarter.

      Yeah ... and did not say a word that the Americans quickly removed one and a half dozen of their F-16s from the territory of Turkey))), so that they would not be confused with the Turkish
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 23 December 2015 12: 08
      0
      It would be better if he said nothing - he would have looked smarter. ,,
      didn’t you hear how Obama was telling that fools are America’s dignity, or maybe wealth? So a stupid statement, especially wealth.
  10. Che911
    Che911 23 December 2015 07: 23
    +3
    About Turkamans is generally interesting. When they shot a pilot who was parachuting, what were they thinking? People who have at least a fraction of the brain would take a living prisoner and exchange them for some kind of preferences. And so they got what they got, deserved
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 23 December 2015 12: 45
      +1
      ..... When they shot a pilot who was parachuting, what were they thinking? ...

      ... Their emotions overwhelmed .... Or rather anger ... Well, they got ..... hi
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 23 December 2015 07: 35
    +2
    Also R.T. Erdogan told excited businessmen in Ankara that the export of Turkish goods to Russia would increase, despite the “problems” in relations between the two states.... Sing the swallow, sing ... Tokmo "The Darkest" loves cold snacks very much .. How he starts serving, it won't seem a little .... Until then, sing ... but better pack your suitcases ...
  12. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 23 December 2015 08: 00
    +1
    .. Some songs of the Nanai boys, or rather, as VVP said: "... lice on the lasso" ... Soon they will start screaming ... then Russia is on the right track
  13. Riv
    Riv 23 December 2015 08: 13
    +1
    You have to understand: the work of Russian pilots was rated "excellent". It is all the more pleasant that this assessment was given by the enemy.
    Well done boys!
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 December 2015 08: 17
    +2
    “Despite the problems that we now have with Russia, I believe that our exports will increase again. You can not worry. "


    Neither give nor take - the second Petska from Roshen! wassat
  15. heal
    heal 23 December 2015 08: 49
    -3
    The President told Turkish businessmen: “Despite the problems that we now have with Russia, I believe that our exports will increase again. You can not worry. "
    .
    Of course, I would like to doubt it, but for some reason his words are more like the truth.
    1. ser-pov
      ser-pov 23 December 2015 10: 35
      0
      Well, if he asks us for forgiveness and will stand in a knee-elbow position for a long time, then of course!
    2. ser-pov
      ser-pov 23 December 2015 10: 35
      0
      Well, if he asks us for forgiveness and will stand in a knee-elbow position for a long time, then of course!
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 23 December 2015 12: 11
      0
      but for some reason his words are more like the truth. ,,
      Can you share what the truth is? Or, woof and burdock.
    4. LeftPers
      LeftPers 24 December 2015 06: 09
      +1
      Do not buy, and it will not seem true.
  16. Belousov
    Belousov 23 December 2015 09: 00
    +1
    Erdogan wants to agree? It's too late to drink Borjomi when the liver collapsed. If there are no militants in northern Syria, then let these areas come under the control of the legitimate army. What is the problem? Oh yes! There was a small problem with oil traffic, which the "evil Russians" bombed to hell.
    Regarding the Kurds. Unfortunately, the Kurds are heterogeneous. The Kurds of Syria or Turkey really hate the Turks and are ready to fight with them to the last. The Kurds of Iraq and the Turks cooperate very well, in particular in the oil fields. The Kurds of Iran are not so elucidated, but they certainly do not shine with autonomy.
  17. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 23 December 2015 09: 09
    0
    Perdogan should be made aware that he is nobody, an empty place, and no one will talk to him. All issues will be resolved with his curators. What to throw beads?
  18. Tagan
    Tagan 23 December 2015 09: 45
    -2
    there is nothing surprising and unexpected in these songs. service of local inhabitants. the formation of public opinion or the manipulation of consciousness. everything is as usual - bears, matryoshka, vodka, balalaika, Vova)))
  19. Alexez
    Alexez 23 December 2015 09: 52
    0
    ... In addition, in his speech, Erdogan reported on the Turkmen who died in Syria. “There are currently dead Turkmen” ...
    They have interesting "peaceful Turkomans" with modern anti-tank systems, various small arms - or is it such Turkoman everyday life to shoot helicopters and shoot pilots with parachutes?
    IMHO - took up arms, called himself a warrior of jihad or something else, then hedges in accordance with his status, i.e. in full and it’s not important now the Turkoman are you an Arab or an Uzbek. The terrorist has no nationality.
  20. oxotnuk86
    oxotnuk86 23 December 2015 09: 53
    0
    Let's compare: "The Turks want to negotiate, I shot down planes and I will shoot them down, you won't walk calmly in the straits and Assad needs to be killed. Ukraine is an aggressor, Russia must give money (free of charge) and Russia is evil." So I think it can negotiate so that they could not refuse?
  21. Green1976
    Green1976 23 December 2015 10: 25
    0
    If they howl, then we get and we get well! I would like to congratulate long-range aviation pilots on their holiday! Blue sky, health and so that the number of take-offs equals landing! GOOD FELLOWS !!!
  22. mgfly
    mgfly 23 December 2015 10: 28
    0
    Ottomans in our repertoire: we see +100500 children killed under bombardments hundreds of kilometers from the borders of Turkey, and INSIDE Turkey itself, there were not a couple of hundred fuel trucks !!!
    Well, about the sky in smoky mushrooms - amused laughing
  23. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 23 December 2015 10: 28
    0
    Yeah, howled again laughing Good rate yes , then everything works out for us. And as for the Turkoman, who cares who they are there, you shoot in the wrong direction, that means they will bury you. And who are you ethnically the tenth thing. In general, with the upcoming our VKS, success to them! And the terrorist bombs are bigger (on the head), good and different! fellow
  24. Lelek
    Lelek 23 December 2015 10: 43
    +1
    (Also, R.T. Erdogan told excited businessmen in Ankara that the export of Turkish goods to Russia would increase, despite the “problems” in relations between the two states.)

    Is it from such a fright? After so many villainies?
    Recep, put your rhetoric in yourself and your nukers in ... you know where. Russia will not have anything to do with you; it does not forgive betrayal and meanness. But with Turkey a conversation is possible only when you and your company are not there.
    I did not overdo it?
    1. midivan
      midivan 24 December 2015 02: 14
      +3
      Quote: Lelek
      (Also, R.T. Erdogan told excited businessmen in Ankara that the export of Turkish goods to Russia would increase, despite the “problems” in relations between the two states.)

      in this regard, it is necessary to oblige all stores to provide separate shelves for goods with the inscription made in turkey along with "roshen" yes to save time for the buyer
  25. Horn
    Horn 23 December 2015 10: 53
    0
    "The dog barks, but the caravan moves on." Let them yapping. Retreating is not just "losing face". To retreat now is to kneel down and put your neck under the knife.
    And that the "peace man" is dying ... In any war, the civilian population suffers. But Russia does not purposefully target hospitals, weddings and funeral processions.
    Need to beat. And beat everyone on the opposite side. Not dividing them by grades and suits. Allah will understand.
  26. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 23 December 2015 12: 00
    0
    If they SCREAM, SCREAM, then we are doing the right thing, we must proceed from the principle in the "coffin we saw" all this rotten, rotten west, led by a monkey with a YOBAMA banana. The Turks have always been, are and will be political idols, they were chased correctly by Rumyantsev, Suvorov, Kutuzov, etc., let it be as one of the citizens of Turkey put it, the Russians left "sucking bamboo" and then wake up to suck even more. The only comment in the article about the economic situation in RUSSIA and here they pinched us and rightly so, honestly mediocre domestic policy in particular the economy, much has been said about it, but for some reason the authorities are silent about the fact that crime has sharply increased due to the impoverishment of the PEOPLE, 30 million citizens below the poverty line, the personal security of a person has sharply fallen, but in addition to the foreign policy that I support, 95% need to direct my work, our TWO LAWYERS have started playing in jurisprudence. It's time to put things in order inside the country.
  27. iouris
    iouris 23 December 2015 12: 08
    0
    You can agree: war is a concentrated expression of the economy.
  28. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 December 2015 15: 35
    0
    We don’t ask anyone for feedback on our actions in Syria. Erdogan has a choice, he has already made it. He is right, then sit and rest for now. Until they take off, or something else. We are strong or not strong, how to say it! It will be necessary, so we can put anyone on a fang. Russia is a country of untapped potential and opportunities. One could warn any bandits trying to act like Papuans towards us.
  29. Clueless
    Clueless 23 December 2015 15: 39
    0
    It is a pity that I do not know English, otherwise I would write to this ... "A Russian passenger plane with 224 people on board crashed in Egypt as a result of a bomb planted by Islamic State militants in revenge for Putin's military actions in Syria. "

    When a lot of people died on September 11th, Russia was not happy about this.
    1. Andrei946
      Andrei946 24 December 2015 20: 01
      0
      I agree. In Russia, the September 11 attacks were not happy as the same Americans and Europeans were happy about the crash of our plane over Sinan. But these two events smell very suspiciously of the special services ...
  30. Stilet
    Stilet 23 December 2015 20: 40
    +1
    "They came to our border and said that if they die, they want to stay on their land."
    - Well, okay, if they want to let them stay, it's their choice. And the VKS has no choice, but there is a debt, and this debt must be paid in full. Give so that the Turks and others like them will remember forever what the FAB-250 is and where it will fly from ...
    1. Andrei946
      Andrei946 24 December 2015 19: 57
      0
      The fact that these so-called Turkoman consider their land, the Kurds also consider their land, because there are more Kurds. I think that the question of the institutionalization of Kurdistan will still arise.
  31. Andrei946
    Andrei946 24 December 2015 19: 54
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    The Turks forgot history ... After all, waging constant wars with Russia, Ottoman Empire collapsed. The West supported Mustafa Kemmal (Attaturk) and Turkey was formed on the ruins of the empire. After all, Turkey has risen to the state in which we know it now only due to trade with Russia and due to tourists from Russia. No Europe and America wanted to feed this country. Turkey during the Chechen warriors provided various support to the militants, and at the same time traded with Russia. So the current leaders of this country think that it will be the same now. But they do not understand that Russia is already far from the state it was in the 90s. And now Erdogan is just beginning to guess how his states threw. Without trade with Russia and without Daesh oil, Turkey will have financial problems. Especially with the Kurds, they broke the truce. And Kurdistan occupies more than half of the territory of this country. If the Kurds become more active, this will exacerbate the crisis in Turkey. A country may cease to exist. Kurds are now supported not only by Russia, but also by other countries.