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At Antonov, they decided not to call the An-178 neither Bandera nor Cyborg

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The state enterprise “Antonov” (Ukraine) summed up the results of a competition in which it was proposed to invent a name for the new An-178 aircraft. As previously reported, most of the persons who took part in the competition offered to name the Ukrainian aircraft in honor of Stepan Bandera. This result provoked a mixed reaction in Ukraine itself.


As a result, the Ukrainian state enterprise decided to abandon the idea of ​​calling the plane in honor of the Nazi accomplice. On the official website of the State Enterprise "Antonov" on the social network "Facebook", a note with the following content was published on this subject:
After the publication of the voting results, politics intervened in the peaceful course of the national competition. The struggle for the title was the cause of international political battles.


At Antonov, they decided not to call the An-178 neither Bandera nor Cyborg


Recall that in addition to the proposal to name the plane in honor of Bandera among the leaders of the competition was the option "Cyborg." As a result, Antonov decided to abandon these options and leave the An-178 untitled. In the international classification An-178 will be held exactly as An-178. Those who offered the above names decided to give gifts in the form of so-called branded aircraft models.

It should be noted that one of the first ideas to call the plane "Stepan Bandera" was suggested by the user "Facebook" under the nickname Bright Fierce - A character with a clear "Independence of the brain."
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 December 2015 07: 09
    25
    since there are problems with balancing, and without bags of cement, it will not work to fly, then simply call it: "cement truck". yes
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 22 December 2015 07: 22
      10
      Only a mentally ill person can propose to name the plane after the bloody criminal. Apparently Antonov understood this - fortunately for the whole of Ukraine, otherwise they would be disgraced to the whole world.
      1. heal
        heal 22 December 2015 07: 25
        15
        Quote: Dembel 77
        otherwise they would be dishonored by the whole world.

        Yes, the whole world somehow does not care at all.
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        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco 22 December 2015 07: 54
          +1
          Quote: Lance
          So they would call it "PIDAPGOM" - and everyone is happy!

          This is a series of what you call a ship, so it will fly.
          Probably common sense prevailed over stupidity.
          Although I doubt that these options were considered.
      3. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 22 December 2015 07: 45
        +4
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Only a mentally ill person can offer to name the plane after the bloody criminal.

        It is good that Oleg Konstantinovich did not live to such a shame.

        By the way! There was one more "winner" in this competition
        The names “Amet-Khan Sultan”, “Stepan Bandera” and “Cyborg” received the most votes. In early December, the Bandera version was in the lead. Employees of the aircraft manufacturing company proposed the names "Dolphin", "Hope" and "Bogdan".


        http://antifashist.com/item/postydnye-geroi-ukrainy-antonov-otkazalsya-imenovat-
        samolet-an-178-banderoj.html # ixzz3v1PEPTEy-
        1. 3axap82
          3axap82 22 December 2015 09: 02
          +1
          "Amet-Khan Sultan" is a worthy option.
          1. cayman gene
            cayman gene 22 December 2015 11: 17
            +6
            Quote: 3axap82
            Amet-Khan Sultan "is a worthy option.

            No, for this name, the plane is bad.
            1. 3axap82
              3axap82 22 December 2015 13: 16
              0
              I do not think that the Ukrainians who work at this plant are identical to those Ukrainians who pi..yat in the Rada or are at war in the nat. battalions. Still sure - the plane is not bad. Such a plant, such a story!
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 22 December 2015 10: 31
          0
          Quote: Voha_krim
          Employees of the aircraft manufacturing company proposed the names "Dolphin", "Hope" and "Bogdan".



          Bogdan is a traitor for them, allegedly annexed Ukraine to Russia ...

          But "Hope" would be a more realistic title ...
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 22 December 2015 13: 13
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            Bogdan is a traitor for them, allegedly annexed Ukraine to Russia ...

            But "Hope" would be a more realistic title ...
            the main thing is not to specify - the hope of that.
            1. FiremamRescueS
              FiremamRescueS 22 December 2015 23: 00
              0
              By the way, they already had "Mriya". Well, or is there, somehow I did not track the path of this model.
      4. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 22 December 2015 08: 27
        +2
        Just a triumph of reason, decided that absurdity is enough?
      5. 72jora72
        72jora72 22 December 2015 08: 47
        +2
        Only a mentally ill person can propose to name the plane after the bloody criminal. Apparently Antonov understood this - fortunately for the whole of Ukraine, otherwise they would be disgraced to the whole world.
        Unfortunately, not a specific person is sick, the whole country is sick (as it happens, Germany and Japan at the beginning of the 20th century are a typical example). And I really doubt that
        "Antonov" refused the name because there is someone who "understood" something, as you put it. There was simply a negative reaction from potential buyers.
      6. Lukich
        Lukich 22 December 2015 08: 59
        +4
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Only a mentally ill person can offer to name the plane after the bloody criminal.

        Earlier, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, in his “Twitter”, reacted to the news that the Ukrainian Antonov aircraft plant could assign the name “Bandera” to the new An-178 aircraft. In response, the Russian official suggests choosing a new name for the Russian Air Force fighter-interceptor, and Rogozin considers the name SMERSH the most suitable.
      7. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 December 2015 09: 14
        +2
        At Antonov, they decided not to call the An-178 neither Bandera nor Cyborg

        Well, well .. Flying shnyaga with an imbalance in the fuselage of 3! tons lol I don’t know whether to congratulate them on something or just keep quiet tactfully?
        1. 787nkx
          787nkx 22 December 2015 10: 45
          -1
          This does not happen.
      8. Bkmz
        Bkmz 22 December 2015 10: 34
        +1
        Where so much shame?
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 December 2015 08: 08
      15
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      since there are problems with balancing, and without bags of cement, it will not work to fly, then simply call it: "cement truck". yes

      So they offered a cyborg, but if you read it on the contrary, it’s a GOBIK for the cement truck.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 22 December 2015 09: 01
        +1
        At Antonov, they decided not to call the An-178 neither Bandera nor Cyborg

        Finally it dawned on them: "Born to crawl, cannot fly!"
        (M. Gorky)
    3. uralex
      uralex 22 December 2015 11: 25
      0
      cement truck
      then neither, you are not so instructed, that sho cops ...
    4. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 22 December 2015 12: 36
      +1
      Interestingly, this is where they were going to sell these planes ?? The main buyer, now enemy # 1, the European and even Asian markets have long been firmly divided, and at the most Independent vryatli there is more than one exhibition model money ......
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  2. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 December 2015 07: 10
    +4
    Let them call it "Extreme". In aviation, the word "last" is not in vogue!
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 22 December 2015 07: 15
      +3
      ... yes, in aviation there is no last word!

      "Extreme" would be symbolic! laughing
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 December 2015 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: BLOND
        ... yes, in aviation there is no last word!

        "Extreme" would be symbolic! laughing

        What are you? They have Napoleonic plans! But no one knows the current where to get money for them lol And then where to put this "samopal". Europe will not buy 100%. Quality on the brink of a foul.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 22 December 2015 12: 26
          0
          Europe will not buy, even if this plane would be the standard of quality, comfort and economy. They have nowhere to put their planes. To also buy on the side.
      2. avt
        avt 22 December 2015 10: 14
        0
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        Let them call it "Extreme". In aviation, the word "last" is not in vogue!

        Quote: BLOND
        "Extreme" would be symbolic!

        No. Exactly that "THE LAST", the most accurate name. "Antonov" will repeat the fate of ..Yuzhmash ", of course, it gets worn out on air freight and that's all - for scrap metal. In Russia, the rate on" Ilyushin " in the KLA, which is fantastic in itself, but in the EU the airbuses have already proved by the example of the An-7X / 70 what is waiting for ukraviaprom.
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 December 2015 07: 16
      +4
      In this case, the title "Last" would be just in the subject. The "extreme" is always followed by the next, but after the "last" there will be no one, because there is no one.
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 22 December 2015 07: 20
      +7
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Let them call "Extreme".

      Yes, the trick is that traditionally Antonov's firm gave its own names to its new aircraft models in such a way that they contained the abbreviation "AN" (Ruslan, Antey ..). Therefore, the Ragul version of "StepAN BANDER" was proposed as meeting these conditions. However, given the state of affairs in the current Ukrainian aviation industry, the An-178 should be called "Torn ANus".
  3. avvg
    avvg 22 December 2015 07: 11
    +4
    Madhouse "Vaselka", not Power!
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 22 December 2015 08: 52
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Madhouse "Vaselka", not Power!
      Unfortunately, Ukraine turned into this madhouse not yesterday, and not even 2 years ago, this process began with Kravchuk and a crowd of small town politicians in Lviv: Horyn, Khmara, Chernovil ...... the list goes on.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 22 December 2015 07: 11
    +4
    At Antonov, they decided not to call the An-178 neither Bandera nor Cyborg

    Biden didn’t watch something .... why the USA and EUROPE are such a competitor ... they will drown soon under a plausible pretext.
    Moreover, there are problems with aircraft centering calculations. what

    According to insiders on a number of web resources, during the first flight tests of the first prototype of the new An-178 transport aircraft (serial number 001, registration UR-EXP) built by Antonov SE, a serious problem with the alignment of the aircraft was revealed, caused by significant design errors ... As a result, in order to ensure normal alignment, the aircraft is forced to perform all any longer test and ferry flights with an additional ballast load weighing 1,32 tons (!) In the form of a package of 15 steel plates weighing 85-90 kg each, laid down immediately behind the cockpit.
  5. BLOND
    BLOND 22 December 2015 07: 12
    0
    Yes, if only the first prototype An 178 was not the only one ...
    1. Private Starley
      Private Starley 22 December 2015 08: 17
      +2
      If only the country was cleansed of Nazi evil, then there will be experimental and serial models ...
      1. Bath
        Bath 22 December 2015 09: 48
        +1
        it seems that she herself can’t be cleaned yet
        1. wef
          wef 22 December 2015 10: 41
          0
          External help will only aggravate the condition of the patient. Only self-cleaning.
  6. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 22 December 2015 07: 13
    +2
    Is the fun canceled? belay
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 22 December 2015 07: 18
      20
      Quote: Skifotavr
      Is the fun canceled?

      The Germans have already had fun. An advertising campaign searching for a name for the Airbus-A380 aircraft, initiated by the German airline Lufthansa, which was trying to draw public attention to a new type of aircraft, suddenly turned into a political scandal. Whatever name is now assigned to the Airbus, it will inevitably have the prefix - “the one that could be called“ Stalingrad. ”With the light hand of the Russian Marina Karyakina, the first to offer the pseudonym Stalingrad for a new German aircraft, he was supported by more than 6 thousand people. As a result, “Stalingrad” on the first day of the competition broke into first place in the casting of the names of “Lufthansa”.

      Judging by the reaction of representatives of the German airline, the "Stalingrad breakthrough" was a real shock for the managers of Lufthansa. At first, company representatives preferred not to react to the surge in popularity of Stalingrad. Then, in general, the vote in support of the "Stalingrad" brand was canceled, and Stalingrad itself was removed from the casting of aliases for the A380.
      1. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 22 December 2015 07: 23
        +3
        What is good for the Russian is death for the German! laughing
  7. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 22 December 2015 07: 15
    +6
    Yes, let them fly, let them build. Better let them build than engage in self-destruction.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 December 2015 07: 16
    +3
    It seems to me or will it be the last Ukrainian plane?
    And no matter how they call him ...
  9. meriem1
    meriem1 22 December 2015 07: 17
    +2
    Quote: Skifotavr
    Is the fun canceled? belay


    Come on!!! Just started. This is so entertaining))) You will never guess what they still othibuchat. If you only knew at least approximately, then it would be possible to stir up the tote ... But not fate. The fog is complete. They themselves do not know what they will do tomorrow.
  10. dsi
    dsi 22 December 2015 07: 22
    +1
    And I would call this plane -Promete. For he gives hope to Ukrainians, that their future is not handouts of the IMF, but created with their own hands and embodied in technology.
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    2. veksha50
      veksha50 22 December 2015 10: 37
      +1
      Quote: dsi
      And I would call this plane -Promete.



      "Icarus" would also fit the name ... Rushing towards a bright European future, they burned not only the wings, but also the brains ...
  11. newcomer
    newcomer 22 December 2015 07: 25
    +6
    Not everything is lost. there are still adequate people in Ukraine.
  12. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 22 December 2015 07: 28
    +1
    Call it a monument, and everyone will immediately understand everything!
  13. nivander
    nivander 22 December 2015 07: 30
    +1
    the name should be streamlined and universal type "Zradaperemog",
    who knows how tomorrow the card will fall
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2015 07: 30
    +1
    Zradnik he should have been called. Or "Poperednik". Which country has been prmaidani - the mind is incomprehensible.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 December 2015 07: 47
    0
    Maybe I don’t understand something, how you can call a plane with some name, which has a misalignment, which cannot fly without additional cargo. This is still an experimental model that needs to be brought to mind. Oleg Konstantinovich probably turned over in his grave, looking at these "design specialists".
  16. fa2998
    fa2998 22 December 2015 07: 48
    +2
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Let them call it "Extreme". In aviation, the word "last" is not in vogue!

    Well, for Antonov, the last developed plane may really be. Modern Ukraine does not need Antonov.
    There are a lot of aircraft of this class on the market and balancing problems will scare off buyers. And there is a problem with state funding in Ukraine. hi
  17. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 December 2015 07: 55
    0
    When else will this trough fly? And they came up with the name. According to experts, he has a clear violation of censorship. That is, this misunderstanding of Bandera flies, only with heavy metal ballast, in the cockpit area. So, then this piece of iron has to be redone. fellow "Where is Zin's money?"
  18. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 22 December 2015 07: 57
    0
    In vain the airline started this business with a competition for the name. Whatever goals they pursued, it turned out as usual. And in general, those there may call it that in a nightmare it will not be dreamed of. Someone maydanuty, and who can come up with humor, so it will hiccup for a long time. They called it themselves before, without the participation of the electorate - that’s nothing to start the game of democracy.
  19. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 22 December 2015 08: 04
    0
    Wing screwed there, or what? ..
    1. Private Starley
      Private Starley 22 December 2015 08: 22
      0
      Yes, not ... just backwards ...)))
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 22 December 2015 08: 18
    0
    They would give him the name Senya Yatsenyuk. Senya Yatsenyuk also has something with ballast in his head, like the AN-178 in the fuselage. So it fits. laughing
  21. Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 December 2015 08: 22
    0
    UKRALIN is now a state clearly incapable of international cooperation .. Without honor, without money, without conscience .. Maybe there will be enough spare parts for a couple of Annushkas, and then the end will come to the new Ukrainian fun-An-178 ... For no matter how you jump, you can't learn to fly without her ...
  22. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 December 2015 08: 37
    0
    The plane, of course, has nothing to do with ... politics, however ... but given the sad fate of the "cyborgs" near Donetsk ... the name is not the most successful ... as you name it ultimately will affect)) ...
  23. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 December 2015 08: 38
    0
    Yes, even if they call it a felt boot, I personally don't give a damn about it for the reason that there is only one demand from the Maydanuts - prison, execution. It's just that Poroshenko and his pack at the last moment drifted to call the plane Bandera, realizing that all the same, in the west, they might "misunderstand" this initiative. Although, what is there to understand, there is a growth on the face.
  24. avva2012
    avva2012 22 December 2015 08: 42
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Yes, the trick is that traditionally Antonov's firm gave its own names to its new aircraft models in such a way that they contained the abbreviation "AN" (Ruslan, Antey ..).

    Such an option is also possible: UPA-UNSO, and presented to fraternal Poland.
  25. Nasty
    Nasty 22 December 2015 08: 42
    +2
    It seems to me that this name has already stuck to him, like a nickname, you can't wash it off. An-178 "Bandera". belay
  26. konstant_n
    konstant_n 22 December 2015 09: 03
    0
    Quote: nivasander
    "Zradaperemoga"

    I would say: "Peremogazrada", but in short: "Per-yes"

    PS: whether the angle is such, or the plane is really plain
  27. Eustace
    Eustace 22 December 2015 09: 05
    0
    They would name it in honor of Biden or Obama, although if the latter were chosen, they would have to paint the plane in chocolate color. laughing
  28. kit-kat
    kit-kat 22 December 2015 09: 16
    +1
    Some kind of ugly plane. Or is the angle unsuccessful? Earlier models were nicer.
  29. kurs66
    kurs66 22 December 2015 09: 16
    0
    The hull resembles something like a whale))) not bad, it seems to look ...
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 22 December 2015 09: 26
    0
    Quote: Dembel 77
    Only a mentally ill person can propose to name the plane after the bloody criminal. Apparently Antonov understood this - fortunately for the whole of Ukraine, otherwise they would be disgraced to the whole world.

    It is unlikely that they then lent this "miracle" to anyone. And so, there is still hope ...
  31. Makosan
    Makosan 22 December 2015 09: 42
    0
    One of the last ....
  32. maximon2005
    maximon2005 22 December 2015 09: 55
    +1
    What is there to think ... It was necessary to name the LAST OF THE MAGICAN.
  33. veksha50
    veksha50 22 December 2015 10: 27
    0
    "As a result, Antonov decided to abandon these options and leave the An-178 without a name" ...

    They could make at least one sober, sensible decision ... It’s amazing even ...
  34. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 December 2015 11: 18
    0
    The view of this last is strange. Look at the tail - some kind of kurdyuk. Or full pants?
  35. Lock
    Lock 22 December 2015 11: 39
    0
    Why didn't they call it An-178 "Maidan"?
  36. seti
    seti 22 December 2015 11: 43
    +1
    This aircraft, like its predecessors, has therefore very little chance of a long life or a large series for a number of reasons. So call it those names and this is the final nail in the thunder of the Ukrainian aircraft industry. They are already breathing at last. At most 3-4 are producing planes from scratch per year, and not of the newest projects, and are being repaired with a dozen more and even under old contracts through Ilyushin Design Bureau. This is ridiculous.
  37. pts-m
    pts-m 22 December 2015 14: 52
    0
    a place for entom letaku at the center of kuev. you will open a salon in it to show patriotic films. about maidan and a friend crap. It will be safer for the rest of the planet.