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28 years ago, 20 December 1987, the largest occurred in stories sea ​​disaster, almost three times surpassed in the number of victims insanely rastiarenny Cameron "Titanic." The Philippine passenger-and-freight ferry Donna Paz, which made a regular flight from Manila to Tacloban, collided with a Vector tanker carrying more than 1000 cubic meters of gasoline.

During the collision, gasoline vapors exploded, tearing up the tanks and causing a powerful fire on the tanker, which immediately spread to the ferry. In addition, hundreds of tons of burning fuel spilled into the sea, spilling several hectares around ships in distress. The passengers and crew of the Donji Paz have only one choice left - to burn alive in cabins and on decks or in burning water. It is terrible to even imagine what was happening on the ship at that moment. “Doña Paz” sank after one and a half or two hours after the collision, and after another half an hour the completely burnt “Vector” went to the bottom.

For an unexplained reason, none of the ships gave an SOS signal. Probably, the radio stations failed due to the impact and explosion, or they had not worked before. Therefore, on the shore, we learned about what happened only after eight hours, and only then did the rescue operation begin. It was possible to save the 24 passengers of the ferry that had suffered serious burns, and its crew died in full force. Of the 13 members of the Vector team, two were saved. In the water, 108 found bodies that were burnt and eaten by sharks, of which only 20 was recognized.

The ferry owner, Sulpisio Lines, initially stated that its crew was 58 people, and, according to the tickets sold, there were 1585 passengers on board. However, the investigation revealed. that the ferry at the time of the disaster was a lot of people who bought the "left" tickets, or no tickets at all, and that their number was several times higher than the number of "official" passengers.

The investigation took more than 10 years and eventually found out that the ship, designed to carry all 1518 passengers, took on the 4341 man! According to the survivors, all interior spaces, including cargo holds, were clogged with people. For the absolute majority of them there were no means of salvation on the ship, however, they would hardly have helped in this situation. Thus, minus the few survivors, the total number of victims of the disaster was 4386 people.

The main reason for the tragedy was the devil-may-care attitude of the teams of both courts to their duties. No one followed the course on Vektor or Donier Paz, there were no navigational instruments, and Vektor did not have a license for shipping by sea and actually sailed illegally. Just before the collision, there was only one person on the captain’s bridge of the ferry, who did not know what he was doing, the other officers sat in the cabin, watched TV and drank beer. And after they were stricken, they were panicked, no action was taken to extinguish the fire and fight for the survivability of the vessel.

Philippine President Corazon Aquino declared the incident a national tragedy, the country was embroiled in mourning, but measures to restore order in maritime transport, if taken, did not produce results. After the Don Paz incident, the ferry crashes took place in the Philippines many more times. The most “fresh” of them happened less than six months ago, when the overturning of the overloaded ferry "Kim Nirvana" led to the death of 62 people.

On the screen saver - the ill-fated "Donja Paz" in the port of Tacloban three years before the disaster. Apparently, even then her condition was far from brilliant.



"Doña Paz" in 1980, then this ship built in Japan was called "Don Sulpisio". On board the name of the shipowner is written in large letters.



Networks were used to collect and retrieve the remains of victims of the disaster from the water.



Unloading in the port of the coffins of the dead on the "Donja Paz".
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  1. Seneca
    Seneca 26 December 2015 07: 00
    -80 qualifying.
    Neighing over the title "There will be no film about this in Hollywood" lol At "Mosfilm" they will definitely be removed for the rasiyansky budget. We start collecting signatures and funds. fool
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 26 December 2015 08: 40
      39
      Quote: Seneca
      Neighing over the title "There will be no film about this in Hollywood" lol At "Mosfilm" they will definitely be removed for the rasiyansky budget. We start collecting signatures and funds. fool

      ??? Have you smoked brains? Or crazy? Or released from the censor (discharged from a fool!) ...
    2. Mik13
      Mik13 26 December 2015 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: Seneca
      On "Mosfilm" they will definitely shoot for rasian budget. We begin collecting signatures and funds

      rules, point "b"
      Wasn’t it easier to leave on your own?
    3. Evver
      Evver 26 December 2015 14: 57
      +4
      There is an expression: Said like a puddle in a puddle!

      This is about you ... your subsequent comments, too ... correspond ...
    4. Alone
      Alone 26 December 2015 15: 42
      +1
      Flag on your own change.
  2. Lord of Wrath
    Lord of Wrath 26 December 2015 07: 28
    -14 qualifying.
    As I understand it, this is the largest marine disaster in peacetime
    and so, offhand, larger
    -7 November 1941 "Armenia" 4500 dead
    -16 April 1945 "Goya" 6900
    -3 May 1945 "Cap Arcona" and "Tilbeck" 8000 people
    -30 January 1945 “William Gustloff” to 9000
    So it turns out Marinescu is the greatest "killer" at sea: February 9, 1945 "General Steuben" 3600 and January 30 "Gustloff" 9000
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 26 December 2015 09: 49
      27
      So it turns out Marinescu is the greatest "killer" at sea: February 9, 1945 "General Steuben" 3600 and January 30 "Gustloff" 9000
      No need to blame Marinesko A.V., Germany for all the atrocities that she did, still got off easily. And I'm sure, find yourself in the place of A.V. Marinesko at that time, any other person, he would do the same.
      1. Lord of Wrath
        Lord of Wrath 26 December 2015 15: 59
        +1
        Quote: Gomunkul
        No need to blame Marinesco

        Quote: Stas57
        It is not correct to compare the victims of the Second World War and civilian deaths in peacetime.


        the brain pinched you completely.
        Where am I to him? And an article about the most massive marine disasters
        Well, try to find another word ... "the most productive submariner in casualties at sea" ??? suggest an option
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 26 December 2015 16: 59
          +1
          the brain pinched you completely.
          Behave respectfully towards others; I have not offended you in more than one word.
          Where am I to him?
          Well, it turns out Marinescu is the greatest "killer" at sea:

          Well, try to find another word ... "the most productive submariner in casualties at sea" ???
          No need to juggle.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 26 December 2015 18: 44
          0
          Quote: Lord of Wrath
          try another word

          But what about the partisans who killed German soldiers in Belarus?
        3. dzeredzavkomimu
          dzeredzavkomimu 27 December 2015 01: 18
          +5
          what victims? the victims are unarmed people, and the armed ones — those killed in battle or killed, and Marinescu — the most productive submariner, who drowned military vehicles with enemy soldiers, and not .. victims at sea ..
        4. Russian jacket
          Russian jacket 27 December 2015 13: 15
          +1
          Well, firstly, specify whether Gustlov carried identification marks? That's how Auschwitz can be considered an unfortunate experience, or how the Balts almost called their Salaspils a resort .... Distort them, as if by a well-known training manual.
        5. igorka357
          igorka357 27 December 2015 15: 05
          0
          The most productive submariner, who destroyed the largest number of enemies at sea! Why doesn’t this option roll you?
        6. ava09
          ava09 17 November 2016 09: 41
          0
          It is not worth explaining to those who did not understand the meaning of "killer" in quotation marks, what "quotation marks" are. After all, he honestly admitted that he is a "Homunculus" ...) "Whatever you call a yacht, so it will float." This directly applies to human names. There is nothing to be done - subtle energy ...
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 27 December 2015 02: 56
        +6
        Considering that the target did not bear any identification marks of a hospital ship, neither Marinescu, nor anyone else could have any doubts in principle, and according to all international standards, Marinescu was honestly credited with frag. But the attack on "Armenia" is a war crime.
      3. Jager
        Jager 28 December 2015 02: 38
        +1
        Don't make an innocent victim out of Gustloff! It was a military ship. It was used exclusively as a military facility - it was the training and educational base of the Kriegsmarine. In addition, it had military camouflage and defensive weapons. So, according to maritime laws, Marinesco had every right to put a torpedo in his tank. Which he did. And the fact that the ship was packed with civilians - ce la vie, war. This was not the first evacuation trip of the motor ship; it managed to transport a lot of military cargo and refugees.
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 26 December 2015 10: 34
      +7
      where does Alexander Ivanovich?
    3. figwam
      figwam 26 December 2015 11: 10
      +5
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      So it turns out Marinescu is the greatest "killer" at sea: February 9, 1945 "General Steuben" 3600 and January 30 "Gustloff" 9000

      It is not correct to compare the victims of the Second World War and civilian deaths in peacetime.
      1. Loreal
        Loreal 26 December 2015 15: 47
        +2
        The ships were not under the protection of the red cross and they were armed with civilian forces as well - it was not visible, the periscope was not X-rayed

        Why pull on sloppiness with the Philippines? Someone from the captains or helmsmen could not be a sadist or a paid sadist?
        In the USSR, during perestroika, "Admiral Nakhimov" from 500 in peacetime drowned under similar criminal circumstances
    4. Loreal
      Loreal 26 December 2015 15: 51
      +6
      The greatest killers on the sea are the British Air Force sinking prison ships in the North German harbors with bombing, although it was written on them. There are not 10 thousand counts
      1. Sherkoch
        Sherkoch 19 January 2016 16: 42
        0
        Could you, by virtue of your strength, please, where can I find more detailed information about this incident? I somehow snorted, snorted, but did not find anything, alas.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 26 December 2015 08: 03
    +9
    The main reason for the tragedy was the disregard of the teams of both courts for their duties. .. Nothing in Hollywood about such films will not be removed .. Yes, and we have the same .... Not a format ..
  4. 76rtbr
    76rtbr 26 December 2015 08: 13
    +4
    Quote: Seneca
    Mosfilm will definitely shoot for rasiyansky


    what a banter ???
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 December 2015 08: 21
      +5
      Quote: 76rtbr
      what a banter ???

      This is not a banter, this is a hohlyatsky troll.
  5. Seneca
    Seneca 26 December 2015 08: 47
    -29 qualifying.
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: 76rtbr
    what a banter ???

    This is not a banter, this is a hohlyatsky troll.

    You yourself are a hohlyatsky troll ... I did not understand the title of the article ... what does American Hollywood have to do with it. On the Titanic ... the world elite drowned ... and on this piece of iron ... scum. That's what the author is hinting at ... what about Hollywood scum does not shoot and removes the type of "mosfilm"?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 December 2015 09: 02
      11
      Quote: Seneca
      I did not understand the title of the article.

      Here is one such word:
      Quote: Seneca
      rasian

      says that the writer is either a khokhlyatsky troll, or from our liberoid riffraff.
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 26 December 2015 09: 08
        -6
        Quote: Vladimirets
        says that the writer is either a khokhlyatsky troll, or from our liberoid riffraff.

        Well, actually, the rules, namely point "b" of those, looks like this:
        b) Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: crest, Hohland, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponet, chock, khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Raska (generally referring to Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech ;

        And the categorical unwillingness of the moderators to comply with the rules of their own site does not at all make inciting ethnic hatred a virtuous and pious thing. It simply appropriately characterizes the moderators themselves.

        So if you, dear Eugene, strive to turn VO into the Russian version of the Censor, then in this case you are doing everything right.
        Russian chauvinism - it’s so native, I would say, warm and lamp ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 26 December 2015 09: 23
          +5
          Quote: Mik13
          strive to turn VO into a Russian version of the Censor

          Wow, how you twisted. That is, if I do not like a derogatory statement about my country, then I am a chauvinist? belay And what am I fomenting? Just people belonging to, hmm ... a certain category of Ukrainian society, as well as cosmopolitans from among the liberal public of the Russian Federation are clearly visible.
          1. Stas57
            Stas57 26 December 2015 09: 29
            +2
            calm gentlemen, comrades, this one is not worth fighting for him
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 26 December 2015 09: 34
              0
              Quote: Stas57
              fight for him

              We don’t seem to be fighting, noble dispute between two gentlemen. smile
          2. Mik13
            Mik13 26 December 2015 09: 41
            +3
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: Mik13
            strive to turn VO into a Russian version of the Censor

            Wow, how you twisted. That is, if I do not like a derogatory statement about my country, then I am a chauvinist? belay And what am I fomenting? Just people belonging to, hmm ... a certain category of Ukrainian society, as well as cosmopolitans from among the liberal public of the Russian Federation are clearly visible.

            I, it seems, very precisely determined what exactly.
            I, like you, have an extremely negative attitude to Seneca’s statement about Russia - I consider this categorically unacceptable.

            But this does not give you the right to resort to insults on a national basis (the fact that this also violates the rules of the site doesn’t matter anymore, the moderators have scored this item for a long time)

            I don’t understand why you don’t understand that chauvinism is the same Nazism. Ukrainian Nazis hate Russians and Jews (and many more) - on a national basis. Russian Nazis hate - Ukrainians, Caucasians, and the same Jews (and many more) - also on a national basis.

            On the Censor you can talk about Russians absolutely any nasty things - about Ukrainians - respectively - you can’t. And in VO - the same thing. About Ukraine and Ukrainians absolutely any nasty things are perfectly acceptable, about Russia - respectively, no.

            How, then, does VO differ from the Censor? By the fact that VOs are Russian "patriots" and the Censor is Ukrainian? This is clear. What else?

            Why is Russian Nazism better than Ukrainian?
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 26 December 2015 09: 50
              +1
              Quote: Mik13
              How, then, does VO differ from the Censor? By the fact that VOs are Russian "patriots" and the Censor is Ukrainian? This is clear. What else?

              Let's not talk about VO as a whole, now we are talking about this situation.
              Quote: Mik13
              I don’t understand why you don’t understand that chauvinism is the same Nazism. Ukrainian Nazis hate Russians and Jews (and many more) - on a national basis. Russian Nazis hate - Ukrainians, Caucasians, and the same Jews (and many more) - also on a national basis.

              And where did you get that I don’t understand? belay I asked why you attributed me to them?
              Quote: Mik13
              But this does not give you the right to resort to insults on a national basis

              Yes, you are probably right in this, in fact, I put it right, but maybe not tactfully. Although I did not invest in this concept precisely a national sign, but only belonging to a certain category of citizens of a certain country. request
              1. Mik13
                Mik13 26 December 2015 09: 54
                +1
                Quote: Vladimirets
                I did not invest in this concept precisely a national sign, but only belonging to a certain category of citizens of a certain country.

                I understood.
                I propose to consider the incident settled. hi
        2. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 26 December 2015 09: 56
          +5
          Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of words and derivatives such as: crest, Hohland, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponet, chock, khachik, Azerbaijani,

          laughing Well, if the mention of the United States as the United States is inciting ethnic hatred, then this is already the finish. fool
          PS Who will answer me, what should the people of Azerbaijan be called now?
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          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX 26 December 2015 15: 30
            +1
            Quote: Gomunkul
            Well, if the mention of the United States as the United States is inciting ethnic hatred, then this is already the finish.
            PS Who will answer me, what should the people of Azerbaijan be called now?

            This automatic censor VO did not allow Mik13 to quote point b) of the VO rules. This is squalor!
        3. Vasek Trubachev
          Vasek Trubachev 26 December 2015 10: 41
          +1
          Worse than chauvinism is only blind and fanatical urapatsreotizm, although this material and discussions are not discussed.
        4. Loreal
          Loreal 26 December 2015 16: 21
          -2
          About Russianness here in a derogatory form who just does not write and nothing
          about the state, this is possible and necessary if it deserves it for any position

          why would they include a clause on, for example, respect for journalists among which the majority are liberal wassat
        5. dzeredzavkomimu
          dzeredzavkomimu 27 December 2015 01: 28
          0
          and the Azeri, as in point b), got it? is it actually a resident of Azerbaijan, so the word is Muscovite, Russian or Armenian will be abusive? USA? without any comments at all, some kind of nonsense, I'm talking about point b) Khachik is an Armenian name, what’s an insult? It’s fashionable to call a man who’s unprofitable now, the same name Alyosha will soon be banned? Jewish-nationality, where in the words is Azerbaijani, USA, Khachik, Jewish-UNDERGROUND OF SPEAKING? Mik13, I’m generally point B) is surprised, I didn’t put a minus
      2. Loreal
        Loreal 26 December 2015 16: 19
        0
        Not at all. That's about vatan maybe.
    2. Starfish
      Starfish 26 December 2015 09: 15
      +8
      "On the Titanic ... the world elite drowned ... and on this piece of iron ... scum

      on the ferry, people, ordinary people, the poor, and even the poor, died a terrible death. if for you the poor are scum by definition, then everything is clear with you.
      and on the Titanic, together with ordinary people, died as you say "the world elite", but in my opinion it is the most real waste, only rich waste.
  6. Seneca
    Seneca 26 December 2015 09: 13
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Seneca
    I did not understand the title of the article.

    Here is one such word:
    Quote: Seneca
    rasian

    says that the writer is either a khokhlyatsky troll, or from our liberoid riffraff.

    No, I didn’t guess. I didn’t consist .. I didn’t participate .. I wasn’t abroad. I’ll estimate a person who appreciates himself .. I wouldn’t have entered the deck of this trough .. only scum and suckers like me and you .. (Nuya would have hoped that at the cheap trough it will throw where you need it, and you too .. I sense the mentality)
    1. Loreal
      Loreal 26 December 2015 16: 29
      0
      And in court?

      the golden billion clears its way when it was a stranger to them they also drowned it in titanics then in armenia then in nakhimovy and with airplanes so it even turns out in the continental climate
  7. RONIN-HS
    RONIN-HS 26 December 2015 10: 08
    +1
    The death of people at sea is a terrible thing. Those who did not walk on the seas, and did not feel the storm as a wave from the grave, can make it difficult for these people to understand the tragedy. The death of one person, or 10 000 - it is always terrible and bad. And jiving on this topic - moveton. Birth, Love and Death are essentially sacraments, this must be taken respectfully.
    Seneca He joked, of course, foolishly, but then the discussion slipped into moveton, where there was more, and what was worse ...

    And quite wildly blaming Marinesco. There was a war, the Germans withdrew troops from Poland, the victory was obvious, but it was necessary to put more than one HUNDRED THOUSANDS of soldiers until the end of the war. And to die in a matter of days before Victory is doubly difficult.
    But the bombing of Dresden, and Hiroshima with Nagasaki - how to evaluate ...?
  8. Archon
    Archon 26 December 2015 11: 54
    +2
    Why won't they make the film? You can take it off. We need an intelligent director, a wild bunch of programmers, extras and scenery. Well, the money. Otherwise, a large-scale film of this level cannot be removed. And the event clearly deserves a quality film so that people do not forget about negligence.
  9. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 26 December 2015 12: 18
    +7
    Marinescu has nothing to do with it. It attacked an armed, naval support ship. And the fact that there were not only the military, but also the refugees is not his fault. One can also recall the disaster of the "Armenia" motor ship sunk in 1941, when even more people died. So don't ..
  10. Megatron
    Megatron 26 December 2015 13: 49
    0
    Only two died. But how epic it looks, even on Google maps it was perfectly visible!
    1. dzeredzavkomimu
      dzeredzavkomimu 27 December 2015 01: 42
      +1
      Apparently this is Costa Concordia .- .. Captain Sketino was sentenced to 16 years of imprisonment under article-killing of 32 people by negligence .. That is, the death of 32 people is officially confirmed, where did you read about two people respected?
      1. Lyton
        Lyton 27 December 2015 04: 55
        0
        I liked the captain most of all in this story, I didn’t look upset, I didn’t lose my presence, well, you think the liner drowned, he killed people, the handsome man was simple.
  11. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 26 December 2015 20: 20
    0
    Yes, a terrible tragedy! I have never read and heard about it.
    For the Americans, everyone else is third-class people!
  12. bandabas
    bandabas 26 December 2015 21: 55
    +3
    It is back in the first world submarine surfaced to warn civilian ships. Allow the crew to evacuate and then sink. And the British introduced their own hunting practice - camouflaging civilian ships with the installation of artillery. The boat comes up and voila. After which the "chivalry" ended.
  13. dzeredzavkomimu
    dzeredzavkomimu 27 December 2015 01: 53
    +2
    Cameron filmed the tragedy of love, the main character is also not a god news ... beautiful .. and rich, and the Titanic is more advertised, so he took it as a basis, and at the same time showed that before death everyone is equal, but there is more equal, and compare he is not needed with the Philippine ship, there and there is a tragedy, and Hollywood has nothing to do with it
  14. Snail N9
    Snail N9 17 November 2016 10: 32
    -1
    Well, in general, all those who have been in the subject have long known that domestic maritime legislation in countries such as the Philippines, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc. is not that very "liberal" - it simply does not exist. That is, for internal transportation, it is enough just to buy a permit for them from a state official and that's it. No one there at all cares about such concepts as the condition of the vessel, safety, labor protection, carrying capacity, etc. - since a rusty galosh is kept on the water and can move somewhere, then everything is fine. If she drowned, then no one really cares about this, do not consider it cynicism, but there is such an attitude towards human lives - "the fewer people, the fewer mouths" - since a person died, it means it was a foregone conclusion "from above" - ​​there he and the road is his destiny - "apsara" ....