Manufacturer: The launch of the 3М80 missiles of the Mosquito complex is discontinued

Last year, production of anti-ship missiles 3М80 of the Moskit complex was discontinued in the Russian Federation, the resource reports Popular Mechanics with reference to the managing director aviation the company "Progress" (manufacturer of rockets) Yuri Denisenko.

“Due to the fact that the year for Progress, 2014 was marked by the end of the release of rocket technology, which provided about 30 percent of our capacity to be loaded, the preparatory-stamping and machining production workshops were partially unused. Now these volumes should be replaced by the release of aviation equipment, ”said the director.

He recalled that the 3М80 anti-ship missile was included in the Mosquito P-270 missile system and was put into service in the 1984 year. Its maximum speed at the target - Mach 2,8, range of application - up to 250 km.

Currently, this rocket is giving way to navy missiles of the P-800 Onyx and Caliber complexes (3M54).

Resource Help: “3М80 was installed on destroyers of the 956 Sarych project, a large anti-submarine ship of the 1155.1 project (Admiral Chabanenko), missile boats of the 1241.1 Molniya project, small rocket ships of the 1239 Sivuch project. It was also assumed the use of this rocket for the armament of WIG-type "Lun". There was also an aviation version of the rocket. In the export version, it was delivered to China (for arming the destroyers of the 956E project built for it) ”.

The company "Progress" is located in Arsenyev, part of the corporation "Russian Helicopters". The main products currently are Ka-52 helicopters.

Comments

[AdekvatNICK]

Onyx road, a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.

[Wiruz]

Onyx Road

Now, of course, they will minus me, but Onyx does not inspire confidence. Even at a speed of 2,5M, knocking it down at an altitude of 14 km is not a big deal (the opinion of an amateur, of course). Better Caliber, which slowly "creeps" on the crest of the wave

[Byshido_dis]

At an altitude of 14 km, it is very difficult to shoot down a target, and even with the radar off (the radar takes bearings only before the start, then the rocket turns on the radar already at an altitude of 10-15 meters for correction), then at a speed of 2.5M and at an altitude of 14 km, shoot down a "subtle" target almost impossible. The main danger for such missiles is precisely in the last section, but the height of 10-15 meters neutralizes this danger.

[Byshido_dis]

About Yakhont Onge Onyx

The main advantage of the Yakhont rocket is its target guidance program, which allows it to act against a single ship on the principle of “one rocket - one ship” or “flock” against a warrant of ships. It is in the salvo that all the tactical capabilities of the complex are revealed. The missiles themselves distribute and classify according to the importance of the target, choose the tactics of attack and the plan for its implementation. The autonomous control system contains data not only on counteracting the enemy’s electronic warfare, but also methods of evading fire from air defense systems. By destroying the main target in the ship’s group, the remaining missiles attack the other ships of the warrant, eliminating the possibility of two missiles hitting the same target. To eliminate errors when choosing a maneuver and defeat precisely a given target, electronic portraits of all modern classes of ships are embedded in the on-board computer (BCM) of the rocket. In addition, the BCVM also has purely tactical information, for example, about the type of ships, which allows you to determine who is in front of it - an escort, an aircraft carrier or a landing group, and attack the main targets.

Source: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/jakhont/jakhont.shtml

Py.Sy Mosquitoes did not know how ... So everything is done right.

[Vorobey-1]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Onyx road, a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.

I agree with you. It’s time to change, and not only Mosquitoes, I hope in the near future and the Voivode will replace Sarmat!

[Wiruz]

The main danger for such missiles is precisely in the last section, but a height of 10-15 meters eliminates this danger.

I repeat again - I'm not special. But! A couple of years ago, Dering (or maybe not Daring), the Aster 30 rocket hit a training target flying at a speed of 2,5M at a height of 5m. Of course, the training target cannot maneuver, it does not have a suppression system and so on and so forth.

The point is different. What will be discovered earlier? The target is "high" or "near the wave". That's right, the first. This means that there will be more time to prepare to repel an attack.
Another thing is the Caliber, which flies low and at supersonic sound in the final section - in this case, the enemy will have 1 minute or even less to make a decision.

[NIKNN]

The fact is that providing the database includes the use of AWACS aircraft and therefore sneaking up on the back of it is more difficult.

[Wiruz]

Aircraft AWACS do not fly 24 hours a day. If we are talking about an aircraft carrier strike force, it’s possible. And what about a couple of destroyers, standing far from their native coast?

[gispanec]

Quote: Wiruz

Another thing is Caliber,

the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....

[Wiruz]

the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....

Oh bye. You again did not learn mat.chast? At least on Wikipedia they would have looked. Cipher 3m54 doesn’t tell you anything?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Wiruz

AWACS do not fly 24 hours a day

Very much even fly. Especially in wartime and during "combat readiness number 1"

[mav1971]

Quote: Byshido_dis

At an altitude of 14km it is very difficult to bring down a target ...

Fresh tradition, yeah ...
14 kilometers - generally a great height for detection ...
SPY-1 should detect such a large missile flying at an altitude of 14 kilometers at a distance of 240 km.
Mosquito should go down approximately 80-90 kilometers from the target and get to the lower bar for about 50 km.
Accordingly, the same burke has 30-150 of clear visibility for guidance missiles.
And if Hokai hangs in the sky above the aircraft carrier - then at least go down by 5 - they will be seen on the entire flight path of Mosquito.

[Botanologist]

Well, they saw Mosquito, then what? From one Burke shoots, and from a salvo from 5? And about the visibility of Burke 80-90 km. - this is what he will see? He has a radio horizon near 35, as a keepsake. And the headlamps are located lower, so it will begin to impose kilometers with 15 at best. Therefore, with a miss of the second launch, there will be no 5 seconds left until the goal.

[Wheel]

Quote: Botanologist

From one Burke shoots,

Which is far from a fact.
As soon as the Mosquito senses the radiation, its trajectory becomes difficult to predict, plus the still unknown priority of target selection.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Byshido_dis

At an altitude of 14km it is very difficult to shoot down a target and even with the radar switched off

And what is the difficulty of shooting down a target at an altitude of 14 km?

And how does it turn on or off the radar in a rocket?


For air defense systems, it’s practically not important ...

[Rus86]

era of hybrid wars ...
from 14 km the horror of "onyx", over the crest of the wave "caliber", from under water a new "squall"?

[Lukich]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

, a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.

certainly earned. but something tells you that he’ll be useful in retirement

[Byshido_dis]

I agree with you because even an outdated Mosquito poses a very great danger to ships. It can be sold to our allies, for example Syria ...

[NIKNN]

Byshido_dis (6) RU Today, 17:48 ↑

I agree with you because even an outdated Mosquito poses a very great danger to ships. It can be sold to our allies, for example Syria ...

I agree completely. to Syria so that some ambitions diminish.

[Ramzaj99]

Most likely this is not entirely correct information. Such missiles are launched not only at the Progress aviation company. Perhaps they stopped production only on Progress, as far as I know they are still exported.

[Alex_Rarog]

Pension is good, the main thing is that the utilization of enterprises is 110%

[sever.56]

Everything is logical - new "products" are replacing obsolete ones.
I don’t know how the Onyxes work, but the Calibers proved to be so good when they “worked” on ISIS in Syria that the whole world was on the ears.
So, go ahead! Work as quickly as possible (but, observing all the technologies) so that the new systems arrive in units and on ships!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: sever.56

I don’t know how the Onyxes work, but the Calibers proved to be so good when they “worked” on ISIS in Syria that the whole world was on the ears.

Enough already to "calibrate" the brain! Well, the new CDs worked out regularly - this is great, but exactly as it should have been. Maybe we will still solemnly celebrate each artillery salvo - then there will be many more reasons for the holidays?
And "Mosquitoes" are purely anti-ship weapons. Why compare them with universal "Calibers"?

[sever.56]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Enough already to "calibrate" the brain!

Dear, I didn’t think about “calibrating” anything for you. I just said that a new generation of rockets with better characteristics is coming to replace the Mosquitoes.

Quote: Ami du peuple

Maybe we will solemnly celebrate every artillery salvo - then many more reasons will be added for the holidays?

Where do you see in my commentary calls for a week to thump about this, or exclamations, such as: - "We will throw all our hats" ???
Do not engage in nonsense - I just stated that new, more advanced "products" are coming to replace the Mosquito, which are used for any purpose, and nothing else. There is no need to look in the comments for what is not there, or what you would like to see ...

[Forest]

The caliber, although a universal missile, but even the anti-ship missiles of the 70's will make it according to a number of characteristics. A slow crawl at transonic speed - to the joy of the Phalanxes

[Wiruz]

No, well, with all due respect to this rocket, it is high time to retire. It's time for "light" Gauges / Onyx and light (without quotation marks) X-35

[Byshido_dis]

At the "Mosquito"
Starting weight:
3M-80 - 3950 kg
3M-80E - 4150-4500 kg

Yakhont
Weight in TPK, kg 3900

[Wiruz]

I agree, with Onyx got excited

[Dimon19661]

I remember a good rocket with 130 (SU Lev) there was no direct hit on it, the pieces fell off from the fragmentation fragments, the infection went away. The parameter is about 9-10 cable.

[KBR109]

I remember too. At the naval exercises of the Pacific Fleet, the re-capture of the target of the GOS and from his ship - smoke and bitter memories. MRK or RC "Wasp" - I don't remember already. Everlasting memory !!!

[Dimon19661]

MRC MUSSON it was. Eternal memory.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: KBR109

I remember too. At the naval exercises of the Pacific Fleet, the re-capture of the target of the GOS and from his ship - smoke and bitter memories. MRK or RC "Wasp" - I don't remember already. Everlasting memory !!!

If the Pacific Fleet, then this is the Monsoon MRK and the RM-15M target missile.
And on the SF in 1983, a P-15M missile with an inert warhead drowned the R-82 RCA, etc. 205. They mixed up with the target.

[dmi.pris1]

It's not even "Onyx" that is expensive, but some people who are faster than 5M "fly" ....

[Michael67]

Specific information: "The release of 3M80 missiles of the Mosquito complex has been discontinued." Further it should be written: "The launch of the 3M80.1 or 3M80.2 missiles with a cruising speed of 5M". But HRT said, probably, that this is already superfluous. :)

[Mountain shooter]

We need more helicopters, so the plant will be redesigned. And they have done enough mosquitoes while the stocks are still being shot. So everything is in order, there will be "Alligators" in the right quantity, and the ships that were designed for "Mosquito" are still floating. Their life cycle must be the same.

[Pirogov]

!

Quote: Mountain Shooter

We need more helicopters, so the plant will be redesigned. And they have done enough mosquitoes while the stocks are still being shot. So everything is in order, there will be "Alligators" in the right quantity, and the ships that were designed for "Mosquito" are still floating. Their life cycle must be the same.

Can’t you combine it? yes, and ,,,,,,, floating ,,,,,, ships Bro is you Krasava ,,,,, !!!

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

More helicopters are needed, and here the plant is redesigned.

And what about that in "Russian helicopters" now Serdyukov steers you have nothing to say? Or do you sincerely think that all his actions are guided by the interests of the country?

[opus]

Quote: Author

Last year, the Russian Federation discontinued the production of 3M80 anti-ship missiles of the Moskit complex, reports Popular Mechanics resource with a link

And Popmeh refers to lenta.ru
The trouble is that no one knows anything except tape (c) ru.
Certificates and licenses for the production of guided ship missiles (ЕКПС 1470, 1471, 1472), spare parts (ЕКПС 1470, 1520) No. 1720 dated July 24.07.2002, XNUMX, issued by the Russian Aerospace Agency. ACT.

[gameover_65]

such information should be kept secret!

[KULEMA]

But what’s stopping Moskit from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km? Why on earth has it become inconspicuous? The ramjet engine, single-mode, accelerated the rocket to a maximum speed at an altitude of 14 km, burned all the fuel, and then by inertia flies and swoops down to the target. maneuvers, there is no problem to destroy it with modern PVO!

[Pirogov]

Quote: KULEMA

But what’s stopping Moskit from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km? Why on earth has it become inconspicuous? The ramjet engine, single-mode, accelerated the rocket to a maximum speed at an altitude of 14 km, burned all the fuel, and then by inertia flies and swoops down to the target. maneuvers, there is no problem to destroy it with modern PVO!

And I also think that manufacturers and warriors have hidden something about the features of the rocket ...

[shans2]

actually, somewhere I read earlier that the mosquito was the first missile of which NATO was so afraid precisely because it could do an anti-aircraft maneuver "snake" ...

[Wheel]

Quote: shans2

actually, somewhere I read earlier that the mosquito was the first missile of which NATO was so afraid precisely because it could do an anti-aircraft maneuver "snake" ...

That's right!
She has a couple more delicious buns available.

[Wiruz]

And what will prevent Mosquitoes from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km?

Nothing interferes. Well, except that he does not fly at an altitude of 14km. A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

If such a "fool" arrives at the bochin, there will be such a hole in the ship. And then this "fool" will also explode

[Wheel]

Quote: Wiruz

. A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

Wrong.
This is a dual-mode rocket.
In low-altitude mode, a range of up to 120 km.
Combined up to 250 km.

[yanus]

What should the "carriers" of Mosquitoes do now? The ships were made for these missiles ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: yanus

What should the "carriers" of Mosquitoes do now? The ships were made for these missiles ...

And how many of them are left - these carriers? EM pr 956 almost all died due to the power plant. Only 1155.1 "Chabanenko" and RTOs remained.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: yanus

What should the "carriers" of Mosquitoes do now? The ships were made for these missiles ...

And how many of them are left - these carriers? EM pr 956 almost all died due to the power plant. Only 1155.1 "Chabanenko" and RTOs remained.

But we are already building new "carriers" with new weapons: "caliber" and "onyx".

[Wiruz]

For the video you are a big, big plus. At least we’ll consider it near this handsome man!

[Dimon19661]

And again we see the mechanical drive AFAR (((How is this different from the MP-600? Design?

[4thParasinok]

Quote: Alexey RA

Only 1155.1 "Chabanenko" and RTOs remained.

and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.

[Wiruz]

and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.

And what, they shoot them so often? Moreover, there was talk of rearming them on Onyx

[gispanec]

Quote: 4-th Paradise

and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.

ceased to produce, does not mean that it is not in storage warehouses ... they will be used as targets in another 10-15 years ...

[4thParasinok]

The company "Progress" is located in Arsenyev, Included in the Russian Helicopters Corporation. The main products are currently Ka-52 helicopters.

Serdyukov began to act again?

[Wiruz]

Serdyukov began to act again?

Argument please

[Zubr]

Well, see the warehouses are packed in sufficient quantities for the needs of the fleet. It's time to release new items.

[cayman gene]

as I understand it, in order to transfer production capacities for the production of x-101, which is more relevant?

[Old26]

Quote: Wiruz

And what will prevent Mosquitoes from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km?

Nothing interferes. Well, except that he does not fly at an altitude of 14km. A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

If such a "fool" arrives at the bochin, there will be such a hole in the ship. And then this "fool" will also explode

The ceiling of the Mosquito is not 20 meters, but 12-14 km. But you are right about something else. The marching height at a low-altitude trajectory of the Mosquito is really about 20 meters. Shooting at low altitude is in the presence of external target designation and the range is about half that when shooting along a high-altitude trajectory

[Wolka]

test, succession in the development and adoption of new types and types of weapons is the main thing, and there is no need to make sudden movements, the defense industry does not like such shocks ...

[Rus86]

and if you bring to the nearest stratosphere (when does it start?) and from there along a ballistic trajectory? and speed will be healthy. (as I read, the most difficult goal of air defense, which plummets. Well, it’s amazing)) (view from the couch, kicking hard)

[minus]

Suddenly I thought .... A lot of people knew about the real range of the Caliber? Maybe Onyx also has flight and guidance modes not widely publicized. There may be surprises!))))

[Engineer]

Quote: gispanec

Quote: Wiruz

Another thing is Caliber,

the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....

Well, someone here on land, and who on surface, who on underwater?)