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Manufacturer: The launch of the 3М80 missiles of the Mosquito complex is discontinued

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Last year, production of anti-ship missiles 3М80 of the Moskit complex was discontinued in the Russian Federation, the resource reports Popular Mechanics with reference to the managing director aviation the company "Progress" (manufacturer of rockets) Yuri Denisenko.


Manufacturer: The launch of the 3М80 missiles of the Mosquito complex is discontinued


“Due to the fact that the year for Progress, 2014 was marked by the end of the release of rocket technology, which provided about 30 percent of our capacity to be loaded, the preparatory-stamping and machining production workshops were partially unused. Now these volumes should be replaced by the release of aviation equipment, ”said the director.

He recalled that the 3М80 anti-ship missile was included in the Mosquito P-270 missile system and was put into service in the 1984 year. Its maximum speed at the target - Mach 2,8, range of application - up to 250 km.

Currently, this rocket is giving way to navy missiles of the P-800 Onyx and Caliber complexes (3M54).

Resource Help: “3М80 was installed on destroyers of the 956 Sarych project, a large anti-submarine ship of the 1155.1 project (Admiral Chabanenko), missile boats of the 1241.1 Molniya project, small rocket ships of the 1239 Sivuch project. It was also assumed the use of this rocket for the armament of WIG-type "Lun". There was also an aviation version of the rocket. In the export version, it was delivered to China (for arming the destroyers of the 956E project built for it) ”.

The company "Progress" is located in Arsenyev, part of the corporation "Russian Helicopters". The main products currently are Ka-52 helicopters.
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  1. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 December 2015 17: 27 New
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    Onyx road, a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 December 2015 17: 33 New
      0
      Onyx Road

      Сейчас меня, конечно, заминусуют, но Оникс что-то доверия не внушает. Даже при скорости в 2,5М сбить его на высоте 14км - много ума не надо (мнение дилетанта, конечно). Лучше уж Калибр, который медленно "подползает" на гребне волны
      1. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 21 December 2015 17: 43 New
        27
        На высоте 14км очень сложно сбить цель да еще и с выключенной рлс(рлс пеленгует цель только перед стартом, потом ракета включает рлс уже на высоте 10-15 метров для корректировки), далее на скорости 2.5М и на высоте 14км сбить "малозаметную" цель практически невозможно. Основная опасность для таких ракет именно на последнем участке, но высота в 10-15 метров нивелирует эту опасность.
        1. Byshido_dis
          Byshido_dis 21 December 2015 17: 45 New
          18
          About Yakhont Onge Onyx
          The main advantage of the Yakhont rocket is its target guidance program, which allows it to act against a single ship on the principle of “one rocket - one ship” or “flock” against a warrant of ships. It is in the salvo that all the tactical capabilities of the complex are revealed. The missiles themselves distribute and classify according to the importance of the target, choose the tactics of attack and the plan for its implementation. The autonomous control system contains data not only on counteracting the enemy’s electronic warfare, but also methods of evading fire from air defense systems. By destroying the main target in the ship’s group, the remaining missiles attack the other ships of the warrant, eliminating the possibility of two missiles hitting the same target. To eliminate errors when choosing a maneuver and defeat precisely a given target, electronic portraits of all modern classes of ships are embedded in the on-board computer (BCM) of the rocket. In addition, the BCVM also has purely tactical information, for example, about the type of ships, which allows you to determine who is in front of it - an escort, an aircraft carrier or a landing group, and attack the main targets.

          Source: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/jakhont/jakhont.shtml

          Py.Sy Mosquitoes did not know how ... So everything is done right.
          1. Vorobey-1
            Vorobey-1 21 December 2015 18: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: AdekvatNICK
            Onyx road, a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.

            I agree with you. It’s time to change, and not only Mosquitoes, I hope in the near future and the Voivode will replace Sarmat!
        2. Wiruz
          Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 15 New
          +4
          The main danger for such missiles is precisely in the last section, but a height of 10-15 meters eliminates this danger.

          I repeat again - I'm not special. But! A couple of years ago, Dering (or maybe not Daring), the Aster 30 rocket hit a training target flying at a speed of 2,5M at a height of 5m. Of course, the training target cannot maneuver, it does not have a suppression system and so on and so forth.

          Суть в другом. Что обнаружат раньше? Цель на "высоте" или "у волны". Правильно, первое. А значит и времени на подготовку к отражению атаки будет больше.
          Another thing is the Caliber, which flies low and at supersonic sound in the final section - in this case, the enemy will have 1 minute or even less to make a decision.
          hi
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 21 December 2015 18: 25 New
            +5
            The fact is that providing the database includes the use of AWACS aircraft and therefore sneaking up on the back of it is more difficult. request
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 43 New
              +2
              Aircraft AWACS do not fly 24 hours a day. If we are talking about an aircraft carrier strike force, it’s possible. And what about a couple of destroyers, standing far from their native coast?
          2. gispanec
            gispanec 21 December 2015 18: 48 New
            -12
            Quote: Wiruz
            Another thing is Caliber,

            the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 59 New
              +7
              the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....

              Oh bye. You again did not learn mat.chast? At least on Wikipedia they would have looked. Cipher 3m54 doesn’t tell you anything? request
          3. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 December 2015 21: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Wiruz
            AWACS do not fly 24 hours a day

            Очень даже летают.Особенно в военное время и во время "боевой готовности №1"
        3. mav1971
          mav1971 21 December 2015 19: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          At an altitude of 14km it is very difficult to bring down a target ...


          Fresh tradition, yeah ...
          14 kilometers - generally a great height for detection ...
          SPY-1 should detect such a large missile flying at an altitude of 14 kilometers at a distance of 240 km.
          Mosquito should go down approximately 80-90 kilometers from the target and get to the lower bar for about 50 km.
          Accordingly, the same burke has 30-150 of clear visibility for guidance missiles.
          And if Hokai hangs in the sky above the aircraft carrier - then at least go down by 5 - they will be seen on the entire flight path of Mosquito.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 21 December 2015 22: 12 New
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            Well, they saw Mosquito, then what? From one Burke shoots, and from a salvo from 5? And about the visibility of Burke 80-90 km. - this is what he will see? He has a radio horizon near 35, as a keepsake. And the headlamps are located lower, so it will begin to impose kilometers with 15 at best. Therefore, with a miss of the second launch, there will be no 5 seconds left until the goal.
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 22 December 2015 02: 35 New
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              Quote: Botanologist
              From one Burke shoots,

              Which is far from a fact.
              Как только "Москит" почувствует облучение, его траектория становится труднопредсказуемой, плюсом ещё неизвестный приоритет выбора цели.
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        4. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 22 December 2015 10: 26 New
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          Quote: Byshido_dis
          At an altitude of 14km it is very difficult to shoot down a target and even with the radar switched off


          And what is the difficulty of shooting down a target at an altitude of 14 km?

          And how does it turn on or off the radar in a rocket?


          For air defense systems, it’s practically not important ...
      2. Rus86
        Rus86 22 December 2015 06: 05 New
        +1
        era of hybrid wars ...
        с 14 км ужас "оникса", над гребнем волны "калибр", из под водой новый "шквал"?
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 21 December 2015 17: 33 New
      +8
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      , a mosquito for a well-deserved retirement.

      certainly earned. but something tells you that he’ll be useful in retirement smile
      1. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 21 December 2015 17: 48 New
        +6
        I agree with you because even an outdated Mosquito poses a very great danger to ships. It can be sold to our allies, for example Syria ...
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 21 December 2015 18: 21 New
          +5
          Byshido_dis (6) RU Today, 17:48 ↑

          I agree with you because even an outdated Mosquito poses a very great danger to ships. It can be sold to our allies, for example Syria ...


          I agree completely. to Syria so that some ambitions diminish.
    3. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 21 December 2015 17: 34 New
      +5
      Most likely this is not entirely correct information. Such missiles are launched not only at the Progress aviation company. Perhaps they stopped production only on Progress, as far as I know they are still exported.
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    5. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 21 December 2015 17: 36 New
      +1
      Pension is good, the main thing is that the utilization of enterprises is 110%
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 21 December 2015 17: 28 New
    +1
    Все логично, - новые "изделия" приходят на замену устаревшим.
    Не знаю, как работают "Ониксы", а "Калибры" себя так зарекомендовали, когда "работали" по ДАИШ в Сирии, что весь мир на ушах стоял.
    So, go ahead! Work as quickly as possible (but, observing all the technologies) so that the new systems arrive in units and on ships!
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 21 December 2015 18: 04 New
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      Quote: sever.56
      Не знаю, как работают "Ониксы", а "Калибры" себя так зарекомендовали, когда "работали" по ДАИШ в Сирии, что весь мир на ушах стоял.

      Да хватит уже мозг "калибровать"! Ну отработали штатно новые КР - это замечательно, но именно так, как и должно было быть. Может еще будем каждый артиллерийский залп торжественно отмечать - тогда много еще поводов поприбавится для праздников?
      А "Москиты" - чисто противокорабельное вооружение. Зачем их с универсальными "Калибрами" сравнивать-то?
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 21 December 2015 20: 11 New
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        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Да хватит уже мозг "калибровать"!

        Уважаемый, я Вам ничего "калибровать" и не думал. Просто я сказал о том, что на смену "Москитам" приходит новое поколение ракет с лучшими характеристиками.

        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Maybe we will solemnly celebrate every artillery salvo - then many more reasons will be added for the holidays?

        Где Вы видите в моем комментарии призывы неделю бухать по этому поводу, или возгласы, типа: - "Всех шапками закидаем"???
        Не занимайтесь ерундой, - я просто констатировал, что на смену "Москиту" приходят новые, более совершенные "изделия", которые применяются по любым целям, и ничего больше. Не надо искать в комментариях то, чего нет, или то, что Вам хотелось бы увидеть...
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    2. Forest
      Forest 21 December 2015 21: 50 New
      -5
      The caliber, although a universal missile, but even the anti-ship missiles of the 70's will make it according to a number of characteristics. A slow crawl at transonic speed - to the joy of the Phalanxes
  3. Wiruz
    Wiruz 21 December 2015 17: 30 New
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    Нет, ну при всём уважении к этой ракете, ей давно пора на пенсию. Пришло время "лёгких" Калибров/Ониксов и лёгких (без ковычек) Х-35 hi
    1. Byshido_dis
      Byshido_dis 21 December 2015 17: 51 New
      +3
      У "Москита"
      Starting weight:
      3M-80 - 3950 kg
      3M-80E - 4150-4500 kg

      Yakhont
      Weight in TPK, kg 3900
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 06 New
        +1
        I agree, with Onyx got excited hi
  4. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 21 December 2015 17: 30 New
    +5
    I remember a good rocket with 130 (SU Lev) there was no direct hit on it, the pieces fell off from the fragmentation fragments, the infection went away. The parameter is about 9-10 cable.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 21 December 2015 17: 38 New
      +2
      Я тоже помню. На флотских учениях ТОФ перезахват цели ГСН и от своего кораблика - дым и горькие воспоминания. МРК или РК "Оса" - не упомню уже. Вечная память !!!
      1. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 21 December 2015 17: 46 New
        +2
        MRC MUSSON it was. Eternal memory.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 21 December 2015 18: 11 New
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        Quote: KBR109
        Я тоже помню. На флотских учениях ТОФ перезахват цели ГСН и от своего кораблика - дым и горькие воспоминания. МРК или РК "Оса" - не упомню уже. Вечная память !!!

        Если ТОФ - то это МРК "Муссон" и ракета-мишень РМ-15М.
        And on the SF in 1983, a P-15M missile with an inert warhead drowned the R-82 RCA, etc. 205. They mixed up with the target.
  5. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 21 December 2015 17: 33 New
    +1
    Тут даже не "Ониксу"дорога,а кое кому который побыстрее 5М "лётает"....
  6. Michael67
    Michael67 21 December 2015 17: 47 New
    0
    Информация конкретная:"Выпуск ракет 3М80 комплекса «Москит» прекращён". Дальше должно быть написано: "Начат выпуск ракет 3М80.1 или 3М80.2 с маршевой скоростью 5М". Но ЗГТ сказало, наверное, что это уже лишнее. :)
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 December 2015 17: 49 New
    +1
    Вертолётов надо больше, вот и перепрофилируют завод. А москитов наделали достаточно, пока ещё складские запасы расстреляют. Так что все в порядке, будут "Аллигаторы" в нужном количестве, и корабли, что под "Москит" проектировались, ещё плавают. У них жизненный цикл должен совпадать.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 21 December 2015 18: 08 New
      +1
      !
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Вертолётов надо больше, вот и перепрофилируют завод. А москитов наделали достаточно, пока ещё складские запасы расстреляют. Так что все в порядке, будут "Аллигаторы" в нужном количестве, и корабли, что под "Москит" проектировались, ещё плавают. У них жизненный цикл должен совпадать.

      Can’t you combine it? yes, and ,,,,,,, floating ,,,,,, ships Bro is you Krasava ,,,,, !!!
    2. 4thParasinok
      4thParasinok 21 December 2015 18: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      More helicopters are needed, and here the plant is redesigned.

      А ьто что в "вертолетах России" теперь Сердюков рулит тебе не о чем не говорить? Или ты искрене считаеш что все его действия руководствуются интересами страны?
  8. opus
    opus 21 December 2015 17: 49 New
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    Quote: Author
    Last year, the Russian Federation discontinued the production of 3M80 anti-ship missiles of the Moskit complex, reports Popular Mechanics resource with a link

    And Popmeh refers to lenta.ru
    The trouble is that no one knows anything except tape (c) ru.
    Certificates and licenses for the production of guided ship missiles (ЕКПС 1470, 1471, 1472), spare parts (ЕКПС 1470, 1520) No. 1720 dated July 24.07.2002, XNUMX, issued by the Russian Aerospace Agency. ACT.
  9. gameover_65
    gameover_65 21 December 2015 18: 07 New
    0
    such information should be kept secret!
  10. KULEMA
    KULEMA 21 December 2015 18: 08 New
    -3
    But what’s stopping Moskit from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km? Why on earth has it become inconspicuous? The ramjet engine, single-mode, accelerated the rocket to a maximum speed at an altitude of 14 km, burned all the fuel, and then by inertia flies and swoops down to the target. maneuvers, there is no problem to destroy it with modern PVO!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 21 December 2015 18: 21 New
      -3
      Quote: KULEMA
      But what’s stopping Moskit from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km? Why on earth has it become inconspicuous? The ramjet engine, single-mode, accelerated the rocket to a maximum speed at an altitude of 14 km, burned all the fuel, and then by inertia flies and swoops down to the target. maneuvers, there is no problem to destroy it with modern PVO!

      And I also think that manufacturers and warriors have hidden something about the features of the rocket ...
      1. shans2
        shans2 21 December 2015 19: 02 New
        +2
        вообще-то где-то читал ранее,что москит первая ракета которой так боялась НАТО именно из-за того, что могла делать противозенитный маневр "змейка"....
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 22 December 2015 02: 19 New
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          Quote: shans2
          вообще-то где-то читал ранее,что москит первая ракета которой так боялась НАТО именно из-за того, что могла делать противозенитный маневр "змейка"....

          That's right!
          She has a couple more delicious buns available.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 December 2015 19: 03 New
      +2
      And what will prevent Mosquitoes from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km?

      Nothing interferes. Well, except that he does not fly at an altitude of 14km. A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

      Прилетит такая "дура" в бочину - вооооот такая дырка в корабле будет. А потом эта "дура" ещё и взорвётся laughing
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 22 December 2015 02: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Wiruz
        . A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

        Wrong.
        This is a dual-mode rocket.
        In low-altitude mode, a range of up to 120 km.
        Combined up to 250 km.
  11. yanus
    yanus 21 December 2015 18: 10 New
    0
    А что теперь делать "носителям" Москитов? Корабли-то делались под эти ракеты...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 December 2015 18: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: yanus
      А что теперь делать "носителям" Москитов? Корабли-то делались под эти ракеты...

      А сколько их осталось - этих носителей? ЭМ пр.956 почти все умерли по причине ГЭУ. Остался один 1155.1 "Чабаненко" и МРК.
      1. KnightRider
        KnightRider 21 December 2015 18: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: yanus
        А что теперь делать "носителям" Москитов? Корабли-то делались под эти ракеты...

        А сколько их осталось - этих носителей? ЭМ пр.956 почти все умерли по причине ГЭУ. Остался один 1155.1 "Чабаненко" и МРК.

        Зато у нас уже строятся новые "носители" с новым оружием: "калибром" и "ониксом". soldier
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 47 New
          +3
          For the video you are a big, big plus. At least we’ll consider it near this handsome man! hi
        2. Dimon19661
          Dimon19661 22 December 2015 01: 13 New
          0
          And again we see the mechanical drive AFAR (((How is this different from the MP-600? Design?
      2. 4thParasinok
        4thParasinok 21 December 2015 18: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Остался один 1155.1 "Чабаненко" и МРК.

        and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 53 New
          0
          and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.

          And what, they shoot them so often? Moreover, there was talk of rearming them on Onyx
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 21 December 2015 18: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: 4-th Paradise
          and they mean nothing to the rocket? strange approach.

          ceased to produce, does not mean that it is not in storage warehouses ... they will be used as targets in another 10-15 years ...
  12. 4thParasinok
    4thParasinok 21 December 2015 18: 46 New
    -1
    The company "Progress" is located in Arsenyev, Included in the Russian Helicopters Corporation. The main products are currently Ka-52 helicopters.
    Serdyukov began to act again?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 December 2015 18: 53 New
      +1
      Serdyukov began to act again?

      Argument please
  13. Zubr
    Zubr 21 December 2015 19: 52 New
    +2
    Well, see the warehouses are packed in sufficient quantities for the needs of the fleet. It's time to release new items.
  14. cayman gene
    cayman gene 21 December 2015 21: 53 New
    +5
    as I understand it, in order to transfer production capacities for the production of x-101, which is more relevant?
  15. Old26
    Old26 21 December 2015 22: 14 New
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    Quote: Wiruz
    And what will prevent Mosquitoes from shooting down at an altitude of 14 km?

    Nothing interferes. Well, except that he does not fly at an altitude of 14km. A mosquito, unlike most Soviet anti-ship missiles, is an extremely low-altitude missile. If I'm not mistaken, then he has a ceiling of 20 meters. Flight speed -2,5M, weight - about 4 tons.

    Прилетит такая "дура" в бочину - вооооот такая дырка в корабле будет. А потом эта "дура" ещё и взорвётся laughing

    Потолок у "Москита" не 20 метров, а 12-14 км. Но вы правы в другом. Маршевая высота при маловысотной траектории у "Москита" действительно порядка 20 метров. Стрельба по маловысотной идет при наличии внешнего целеуказания и дальность примерно вдвое меньше, чем при стрельбе по высотной траектории
  16. Wolka
    Wolka 22 December 2015 05: 32 New
    0
    test, succession in the development and adoption of new types and types of weapons is the main thing, and there is no need to make sudden movements, the defense industry does not like such shocks ...
  17. Rus86
    Rus86 22 December 2015 06: 21 New
    0
    and if you bring to the nearest stratosphere (when does it start?) and from there along a ballistic trajectory? and speed will be healthy. (as I read, the most difficult goal of air defense, which plummets. Well, it’s amazing)) (view from the couch, kicking hard)
  18. minus
    minus 22 December 2015 06: 35 New
    0
    Suddenly I thought .... A lot of people knew about the real range of the Caliber? Maybe Onyx also has flight and guidance modes not widely publicized. There may be surprises!))))
  19. Engineer
    Engineer 22 December 2015 08: 42 New
    0
    Quote: gispanec
    Quote: Wiruz
    Another thing is Caliber,

    the caliber flies on ground targets, and onyx on surface ....

    Well, someone here on land, and who on surface, who on underwater?)