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Laid the seventh "Borey", called "Emperor Alexander III" (photo)

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The ceremony of laying the nuclear submarine cruiser project 955-A, named after Emperor Alexander III, took place in Severodvinsk on Sevmash. Ридус.


Laid the seventh "Borey", called "Emperor Alexander III" (photo)


The event was attended by Commander of the Federation Council Vladimir Korolev, Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky, Governor of the Arkhangelsk Region Igor Orlov.

“The laying of this ship is the most important link in strengthening the defense capacity of our country, and I am sure that the new nuclear-powered ship will take up combat duty on time,” said Orlov, addressing those present.

«Присвоение новому подводному крейсера имени "Император Александр III" – знаковое событие, наглядно демонстрирующее преемственность российских historical традиций… Уверен, что этот крейсер оправдает своё славное имя и будет надёжным защитником морских рубежей России!», – сказал в приветственном слове Мединский.

"Emperor Alexander III" - the seventh submarine of the project "Borey". Submarines of this project have a length of - 170 m, width - 13,5 m, full displacement - 24 thousand tons. Each cruiser is armed with 16 th R-30 "Bulava" missiles.

“The laying of the seventh cruiser, armed with modern missile system Bulava, says that the ships of the newest group of naval strategic nuclear forces fully justify their appointment, confirmed their high tactical and technical characteristics. And the name of the new ship is the name of a whole epoch when Russia was one of the leading world powers. She was and will be for her if we can build such ships, ”Korolev emphasized.









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  1. alekc73
    alekc73 21 December 2015 15: 17 New
    10
    Great news. Will they be able to build by 2020 ???
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 21 December 2015 15: 22 New
      33
      News plus. It's nice that our leadership does not respond to the provocations of the American military - it does not twitch when we are shown some kind of PR project, such as an EMP gun or Zamvolt iron. Honestly, calmly, nobly adheres to the elaborated military strategy, without departing from it not a single step. Let the adversaries boil.
    2. Extraneous
      Extraneous 21 December 2015 15: 26 New
      +2
      The construction time is about seven years.
      1. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 21 December 2015 15: 43 New
        21
        Nowadays, 4 Ash-trees and 4 Borea are being built at the Sevmash simultaneously ... judge for yourself ... what work is in full swing
    3. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 21 December 2015 15: 31 New
      19
      A decent name. Not all submarines are called Zaporozhye.
      1. vladfill
        vladfill 21 December 2015 16: 49 New
        +1
        Worthy, an alcoholic who died of jade at 49 years old, of course, was difficult to find.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 21 December 2015 17: 18 New
          +9
          Quote: vladfill
          Worthy, an alcoholic who died of jade at 49 years old, of course, was difficult to find.

          First of all, he was a statesman. He carried out several painful reforms .., you can say successfully. And what I loved to drink ... Are you Jesus? I apologize .. then., Did not admit ..
          1. vladfill
            vladfill 21 December 2015 17: 36 New
            +1
            These reforms, or what? In 1883, a special prison was built for the emperor’s personal enemies on an island in the middle of the Neva in Shlisselburg - the “dry guillotine”. In her casemates, Alexander III imprisoned 56 of the most dangerous people of the people, of whom only nineteen were destined to go free in 1905.
            In 1884, a university charter was introduced that limited university autonomy and placed professors and students under administrative supervision. In 1886, at the insistence of Pobedonostsev, the Higher Women's Courses were closed; in 1887, Delyanov’s circular on “cook children” restricted access to lower classes for the gymnasiums and universities. The school took a decisive roll on the teaching of religious subjects and classical languages. The number of parish schools with which Pobedonostsev sought to replace secular education increased from 4 thousand to 32 thousand with a million students. In the press, after March 1, 1881, the omnipotence of censorship was restored. A series of circulars forbade the publication of anything other than the views of the government on any important issue. The liberal publications Voice and Patriotic Notes, many books of Leo Tolstoy, Emil Zol, Victor Hugo, Guy de Maupassant and almost every third Russian play were banned and the Tsar, who did not read anything from newspapers except for a special extract prepared by the Ministry Internal Affairs, frankly rejoiced at the repressions against the press, accompanying the Minister’s reports on this with litters like “Share this cattle!”, “Very good!”
            1. R-22
              R-22 21 December 2015 19: 02 New
              12
              everything that you listed is required to be considered purely in the context and projection of that time, way of life and political situation, I don’t see anything bad personally. You should not mislead people, but rather list the negative and positive consequences under each decree, it’s not a bad article, but without analysis it’s some kind of stuffing.
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 21 December 2015 19: 10 New
              11
              Quote: vladfill
              These reforms or something

              In the USSR there was much of the same. And I will be very happy if the omnipotence of censorship and administrative supervision of professors and students are introduced.
              Quote: vladfill
              The king who did not read anything from the newspapers

              How did he manage the country?
              Quote: vladfill
              imprisoned the 56 most dangerous people

              Are we talking about terrorists and killers? What was he supposed to do?
            3. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 21 December 2015 21: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: vladfill
              In 1883, a special prison was built for the emperor’s personal enemies on an island in the middle of the Neva in Shlisselburg - the “dry guillotine”. In her casemates, Alexander III imprisoned 56 of the most dangerous people of the people, of whom only nineteen were destined to go free in 1905.

              I beg you to deal with terrorists accordingly
              By the way, there were no such precautions as now at that time. It is now that each official has an average rank of two bodyguards and an armored pepelats bought for people's money. Although, in my opinion, it would be more logical to name Alexander the First or Prince Potemkin
            4. ilyinval61
              ilyinval61 22 December 2015 20: 52 New
              +4
              During the reign of Emperor Alexander III, a certain soldier Oreshkin got drunk in a tsar’s tavern. He began to brawl. They tried to reason with him, pointing to the portrait of the emperor. To this the soldier replied: a I did not care about your emperor! He was arrested and opened a case of insulting the emperor.

              Acquainted with the case, Alexander realized that the story of a penny is not worth it, and he wrote on the folder: stop the business, release Oreshkin, henceforth do not hang my portraits in taverns, tell Oreshkin that I also did not care.


              In the whole world we have only two faithful allies, ”he liked to speak to his ministers,“ our army and navy. ” Everyone else, at the earliest opportunity, will gang themselves up against us.


              Remember Nicholas II. What repressions did Comrade undergo? Lenin? And comrade Stalin in the Turukhansk Territory? And what is the ending?
        2. Heritologist
          Heritologist 21 December 2015 18: 08 New
          +6
          Quote: vladfill
          Worthy, an alcoholic who died of jade at 49 years old, of course, was difficult to find.

          I think you are wrong.
          There has already been a controversy on this topic in VO.
          There is more likely the continuity of naval traditions than imperial pathos.
          Take an interest in what historical symbolism is the name of the ship "Emperor Alexander III".
    4. Sweles
      Sweles 21 December 2015 16: 30 New
      -43
      Are strategic submarines needed at all now? Now it’s possible to launch missiles directly from the marina, maybe it’s not worth making expensive submarines, but placing missiles in the depths of the territory will be cheaper and more efficient. Has the nuclear submarine time probably passed?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 December 2015 16: 36 New
        13
        Quote: Sveles
        Are strategic submarines needed at all now? Now it’s possible to launch missiles directly from the marina, maybe it’s not worth making expensive submarines, but placing missiles in the depths of the territory will be cheaper and more efficient. Has the nuclear submarine time probably passed?

        Excuse me, did you understand what you wrote yourself? Strategic submarines carrying nuclear weapons are one of the most reliable and difficult to detect components of the nuclear triad ... It’s one thing to beat from your territory, and it’s not a fact that they won’t intercept it, but it’s another matter to let the adversary go missile, while the entire territory of the enemy is at a glance, while the missile range is enough for half of the Voivod’s ICBMs ...
        1. Sweles
          Sweles 21 December 2015 16: 44 New
          -17
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Sveles
          Are strategic submarines needed at all now? Now it’s possible to launch missiles directly from the marina, maybe it’s not worth making expensive submarines, but placing missiles in the depths of the territory will be cheaper and more efficient. Has the nuclear submarine time probably passed?

          Excuse me, did you understand what you wrote yourself? Strategic submarines carrying nuclear weapons are one of the most reliable and difficult to detect components of the nuclear triad ... It’s one thing to beat from your territory, and it’s not a fact that they won’t intercept it, but it’s another matter to let the adversary go missile, while the entire territory of the enemy is at a glance, while the missile range is enough for half of the Voivod’s ICBMs ...


          and from the shore of the adversary, of course there will be no one to intercept? In addition, the system is the more reliable the simpler, so a complex submarine could not be simpler than a mine with a rocket.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 21 December 2015 16: 51 New
            15
            Quote: Sveles

            and from the shore of the adversary, of course there will be no one to intercept? In addition, the system is the more reliable the simpler, so a complex submarine could not be simpler than a mine with a rocket.

            The coordinates of the mine are known to the adversary ... and why did you get that, forgive the "drina" 200 tons (Voivode) is easier than the Mace weighing 36 tons? And there are 16 of them on the submarine ... you must admit, there is a difference when the target shoot from 50 meters, for example, or when they "hold" the barrel near the temple ...
            And the ability to launch rockets from the pier is just a bonus, which in addition cools hot heads.
            1. sandrmur76
              sandrmur76 21 December 2015 17: 05 New
              +8
              You are interpreting the Nexus correctly. I’ll add only response time if I fired from the nuclear submarines. Yes and along the route there is less missile defense (any destroyers, corvettes). And the nuclear submarine also chooses the weakest point on the coast + surprise.
            2. Sweles
              Sweles 21 December 2015 18: 41 New
              -10
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: Sveles

              and from the shore of the adversary, of course there will be no one to intercept? In addition, the system is the more reliable the simpler, so a complex submarine could not be simpler than a mine with a rocket.

              The coordinates of the mine are known to the adversary ... and why did you get that, forgive the "drina" 200 tons (Voivode) is easier than the Mace weighing 36 tons? And there are 16 of them on the submarine ... you must admit, there is a difference when the target shoot from 50 meters, for example, or when they "hold" the barrel near the temple ...
              And the ability to launch rockets from the pier is just a bonus, which in addition cools hot heads.


              how would they be known? and besides, in the event of a war between launching missiles from America or even from a submarine, there are always a few minutes to launch their missiles, and as for the APSL, such a missile is VERY VULNERABLE and destroyed not just by one missile, but by one depth bomb or torpedo and the mine is more covered.
              I think that it’s best to have multipurpose submarines so that pin_ dos do not feel like masters at sea, and missiles are better placed on land. And instead of the Boreans, building Barguzins will be better, cheaper, safer and more appropriate ...
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 21 December 2015 18: 52 New
                +7
                Quote: Sveles
                how would they be known?

                Dear, this is called the exchange of information ... Americans know about our mines, and we know about them ...
                Quote: Sveles
                and as regards APLSN, such a missile is VERY VULNERABLE and is destroyed not just by one missile, but by one depth bomb or torpedo,

                You are a naive young man laughing But what can you say if the missile launches from the submarines were made from the Arctic, from under the ice? How will you determine the coordinates there and with what depth bombs to sink?
                Quote: Sveles
                I think that it’s best to have multipurpose submarines so that pin_ dos do not feel like masters at sea,

                Read my posts here ... MAPL We have one ash-tree! Kazan was postponed for a year ... so think ...
                1. Sweles
                  Sweles 21 December 2015 19: 16 New
                  -6
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Dear, this is called the exchange of information ... Americans know about our mines, and we know about them ...


                  Well, that’s stupid, once again I’m convinced that we are forced to play by the rules of others ...
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  You are a naive young man laughing. What can you say if the missile launches from the submarine were fired from the Arctic, from under the ice? How will you determine the coordinates there and with what depth bombs?


                  I’m not a young man for a long time, and there’s not much left of my romanticism, but about launches from under the ice, do you even know which rocket did this? BARK, the one that didn’t go for some reason, but whether the Clubs are capable, but the blue, I don’t know how they don’t tell ...

                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Read my posts here ... MAPL We have one ash-tree! Kazan was postponed for a year ... so think ...


                  another fact in favor of my assumption that we play by other people's rules, the SECOND STAGE ENGINE was pushed to us for PAX, Barguzin was pushed to us by 20g, the KA50 was removed, the BOAL COALITION was removed, we are not doing BIG SHIPS for some reason, why? And if you knew how everything is not simple with our best brand of AK, which even Hezbola is now refusing, only your own policy can really help us ...
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 21 December 2015 19: 39 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Sveles
                    Well, that’s stupid, once again I’m convinced that we are forced to play by the rules of others ...

                    Have you heard anything about the agreement on the exchange of information on nuclear weapons?
                    Quote: Sveles
                    I’m not a young man for a long time, and there’s not much left of my romanticism, but about launches from under the ice, do you even know which rocket did this? BARK, the one that didn’t go for some reason, but whether the Clubs are capable, but the blue, I don’t know how they don’t tell ...

                    And about surfacing in the Arctic, you seem to have heard nothing laughing
                    Quote: Sveles
                    another fact in favor of my assumption that we are playing by the rules of others, we were pushed back to the SECOND STAGE ENGINE to PAX,

                    PAK FA with the engine of the first stage withstands all the performance characteristics of a 5th generation fighter ... will bring to mind the engine of the second stage ...
                    Quote: Sveles
                    Barguzin was pushed to 20 g

                    But nothing that we tested A-235, Boundary, Vanguard?
                    Quote: Sveles
                    KA50 was removed

                    In its place came MI-24 NK ...
                    Quote: Sveles
                    we don’t do BIG SHIPS why why?

                    Because the school of building ships of the first rank is ruined ... there are no specialists, developments, there are no simple special personnel in sufficient numbers ...
                    Quote: Sveles
                    And if you knew how it’s not easy with our best AK brand, which even Hezbola is now refusing,

                    this good will always be bought from us ...
              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 21 December 2015 19: 13 New
                +2
                Quote: Sveles
                how would they be known

                There is such a thing as satellites.
                Quote: Sveles
                and destroyed not just by one missile, but by one depth bomb or torpedo

                If its location is known exactly and there is someone nearby who will drop this bomb.
                1. go21zd45few
                  go21zd45few 22 December 2015 08: 12 New
                  +3
                  Sveles, I served in the Northern Fleet from 1964 to 1968 on Sq.
                  So we went below the prime meridian bypassing the NATO line
                  submarine defense cape Nordkap-Medvezhiy island having 2 torpedoes with nuclear warheads on board. We watched the Faroe Islands in the periscope, that is, were in the underbelly of England and were ready to launch a nuclear strike. Expressing the language of the gunner on direct fire. 50 years passed, the equipment and weapons became many times more effective. So the development of a submarine fleet is necessary. Yes, and in terms of costs, I do not think that building a mine base is cheaper.
            3. Sweles
              Sweles 21 December 2015 18: 55 New
              -5
              Quote: NEXUS
              The mine’s coordinates are known to the adversary ... and why did you get that, forgive the “drina” 200 tons (Voivode) easier than the Mace weighing 36 tons? And there are 16 of them on the submarine


              The voivode is the king-rocket of the MEGATON CLASS, although it can be equipped with kiloton warheads. The blow delivered by such a warhead not only erases the cities, but also entire regions and small countries such as England, and the same clubs can be placed on the shore, they will also work with guarantee. The competition between the APSL was imposed on us - this is a real arms race in which we can’t win, and only without involving ourselves in the games that the West has imposed on us, we can somehow defend our country.
              For example, we were imposed an agreement on NON-PLACEMENT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN SPACE. Have you ever wondered why this was done? Because the Americans ARE NOT ABLE to do SPACE STATIONS and cannot place rockets in space. This is where we need to invest money. What is APLSN? The sea still belongs more to the Americans and their allies, they have more ships and submarines, the coastline and the adjacent airfields are longer, we have much less, so we need a RESPONSE FROM ANOTHER AREA ...
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 21 December 2015 19: 09 New
                +5
                Quote: Sveles
                The voivode is the king-rocket of the Megaton Class,

                Voevode’s ICBMs have extended their life if sclerosis doesn’t fail me 7 times! This missile was built by the Union yet ... A good ICBM, but they are already planning to change it to Sarmat from the 20th year, if everything is fine with Sarmat ...
                Quote: Sveles
                The competition between the APSL was imposed on us - this is a real arms race in which we can’t win, and only without involving ourselves in the games that the West has imposed on us, we can somehow defend our country.

                The bet on the submarine fleet was made even with the Union ... look at how many submarines in the USSR there were at the time of the collapse ... the mattresses have an aircraft-carrying fleet, we have an underwater ... the concepts are different ... understand?
                Quote: Sveles
                What is APLSN? The sea still belongs more to the Americans and their allies, they have more ships and submarines

                And do you propose to snuggle up to your shores? Build a coastal fleet and not rock the boat? For your information, the MAPL of the Ash project, by far, is the most advanced nuclear submarine in the world ...
                1. Sweles
                  Sweles 21 December 2015 19: 32 New
                  -3
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Voevode’s ICBMs have extended their life if sclerosis doesn’t fail me 7 times! This missile was built by the Union yet ... A good ICBM, but they are already planning to change it to Sarmat from the 20th year, if everything is fine with Sarmat ...


                  rather, it is necessary to build, not to postpone, but to shift ...

                  Quote: NEXUS
                  The bet on the submarine fleet was made even with the Union ... look at how many submarines in the USSR there were at the time of the collapse ... the mattresses have an aircraft-carrying fleet, we have an underwater ... the concepts are different ... understand?


                  The USSR was a GREAT COUNTRY, in addition there was also the Warsaw Pact, but now what? Putin even quarreled with Belarus. And besides, how many APLs do Americans have and how many do ours? You don’t know any more pin_dos.
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  And do you propose to snuggle up to your shores? Build a coastal fleet and not rock the boat? For your information, the MAPL of the Ash project, by far, is the most advanced nuclear submarine in the world ...


                  and you don’t see the layout at sea? Wipe your eyes, we are already pressed to the shores, where are the aircraft carriers? - there are no aircraft carriers, where are the destroyers? - one talk, we only build watchtowers of the coastal zone, and neither Germany nor Ukraine supplies us with the engine, we even refused, or rather, I already know - we were forced to abandon SCREEN SUPERWEAR. There were already projects of oceanic ekranoplanes, but everything is poher ...
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 21 December 2015 19: 50 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Sveles
                    rather, it is necessary to build, not to postpone, but to shift ...

                    Now let’s drop everything and how to start building a lego laughing Creating a new ICBM is nothing at all laughing
                    Quote: Sveles
                    And besides, how many APLs do Americans have and how many do ours? You don’t know any more pin_dos.

                    Because mattresses invest mainly in the fleet a large part of their defense budget.
                    Quote: Sveles
                    and you don’t see the layout at sea?

                    But he will not change if such advisers will be like you ... after 20 years of hibernation, you take yes and immediately put a new ICBM and a new submarine fleet with a surface ...
                    Quote: Sveles
                    we were forced to abandon SCAN SUPERWEAR.

                    Who made us? The ekranoplan is a good thing, but it is visible very well on the radar and is slow-moving in comparison with the same fighter ... although now we have begun to restore all this school of ekranoplanes in Nizhny ...
                    1. Sweles
                      Sweles 21 December 2015 20: 13 New
                      -5
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Who made us? The ekranoplan is a good thing, but it can be seen very well on the radar and is slow-moving in comparison with the same fighter ... although now we have begun to restore all this school of ekranoplanes in Nizhny Novgorod.


                      in general, everything is clear with you, I will answer the last one, the ekranoplan, what would you know on the radar becomes visible only within the line of sight, and this is from the height of the ship 30-50km, and the same MOSKIT can be launched for 120km, which is why it was forced to be removed. ..
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 07 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Sveles

                        in general, everything is clear with you, I will answer the last one, the ekranoplan, what would you know on the radar becomes visible only within the line of sight, and this is from the height of the ship 30-50km, and the same MOSKIT can be launched for 120km, which is why it was forced to be removed. ..

                        Everything is clear with you. laughing Since the construction of Lunya and Orlenka, much water has flowed and the improvement of radars, as well as satellite tracking, also did not stand still ... in addition, the Moskit anti-ship missile began to be developed in the 73rd year ... You would still remember Termite laughing
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                  2. Corsair
                    Corsair 22 December 2015 18: 10 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Sveles
                    Wipe your eyes, we are already pressed to the shores, where are the aircraft carriers? - there are no aircraft carriers, where are the destroyers? - one talk, we only build watchtowers of the coastal zone, and neither Germany nor Ukraine supplies us with the engine, we even refused, or rather, I already know - we were forced to abandon SCREEN SUPERWEAR. There were already projects of oceanic ekranoplanes, but everything is poher ...

                    laughing You are straight maximalist. Poheril - yes it is true, but at the same time tried to save what is most effective.
                    Do you know why the Americans through Gorbachev stole our BZHRK, our nuclear submarines Shark? - because it’s extremely difficult to track down and strike at unclear where the strategist is located. If the Americans bring their hypersonic missiles to their minds, then their theory of “Quick Global Strike” without the presence of mobile invisible launchers for the enemy will become a reality, the time of missile launch will be reduced to several minutes.
                    What will we respond to in a massive blow?
                    APSLN is extremely difficult to detect, unlike stationary SN installations - for the global ocean (3/4 of the Earth) is a much larger area than the continents taken together (about 140 million sq. Km). One Pacific Ocean covers an area of ​​180 million square meters. km
              2. Alf
                Alf 21 December 2015 20: 14 New
                +2
                Quote: Sveles
                The sea still belongs more to the Americans and their allies, they have more ships and submarines,

                That is why Komsomolets was the first boat capable of diving at 1250 meters maximum and 1000 meters at working depth. Let me remind you that at depths of more than 600 meters the detection of submarines by existing means is impossible. Yes, Komsomolets was a torpedo boat from the Kyrgyz Republic, but what prevents the construction of the same deep-sea BR carrier boats? Such a boat could, being at a depth of 700-800 meters not found, carry out patrolling in a given square and upon receipt of a signal about the ass that had come, quickly emerge, shoot, and then take it out.
                Let me also remind you about the time of rocket launch.
                And finally, the moment came that everyone was looking forward to: on August 6, 1991 at 21 hours 9 minutes Moscow time, from the depth of 50 meters the first forty-five-meter R-29RM rocket launched. Ten seconds later, a second followed, then a third. And so all sixteen missiles were launched in just over two minutes.
                . It is unlikely that in 3 minutes the boat will have time to detect and, especially, attack.
                1. Sweles
                  Sweles 21 December 2015 21: 39 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Alf
                  That is why Komsomolets was the first boat capable of diving at 1250 meters maximum and 1000 meters at working depth. Let me remind you that at depths of more than 600 meters the detection of submarines by existing means is impossible


                  it’s good that you remembered Komsomolets — the eternal memory of the dead sailors, it’s strange why we don’t make such boats, is this a known advantage? And all this is why, why we do not do aircraft carriers and destroyers, we can recall the ALFA project as a super-fast hunting boat, Piranha saboteur, all the most dangerous were closed, and Borey, what is Borey? maybe it’s good, but something tells me, since we are allowed to make such a boat in the queue, then what’s not clean, most likely the fight with this boat does not present problems for NATO countries ...
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 47 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Sveles
                    ALFA project high-speed hunter boat

                    Dear titanium boats, we have not been building for a long time ... and the technology has been lost. Yes, and it was expensive even for the USSR, not to mention Russia ...
                    Quote: Sveles
                    and Borea, what is Borey? maybe it’s good, but something tells me, since we are allowed to make such a boat in the queue, then what’s not clean, most likely the fight with this boat does not present problems for NATO countries ...

                    One of the most silent boats ... laughing Of course, this is not a problem. You have not tried to find a submarine in the ocean, since you are so bravely making conclusions? laughing
                  2. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 21 December 2015 22: 25 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Sveles
                    since we are allowed to make such a boat

                    Can I see a copy of the permission?
                    Quote: Sveles
                    it’s strange why we don’t make such boats, because this is an obvious advantage

                    What's the point? The submarine's secrecy must be ensured by acoustic characteristics, and attacking from such a depth is problematic, you still have to surface.
              3. SIvan
                SIvan 22 December 2015 11: 14 New
                -1
                Quote: Sveles
                The voivode is the king-rocket of the MEGATON CLASS, although it can be equipped with kiloton warheads. The blow delivered by such a warhead does not just erase the cities, but also entire regions and small countries such as England

                Do not carry nonsense. Here is a picture for you. The extent of the destruction in miles, the pressure of the shock wave in pounds per square inch (PSI) and the percentage of fatalities and injuries in a ground explosion of 1 Mt


                You can also set the power here and see the radius of damage on the map: http://www.21122012.com.ua/nuclear-simulator.html
                Tune in to London and take a look.
          2. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 22 December 2015 07: 42 New
            +2
            Sweles, you're talking nonsense. With modern control over the territory of the enemy, all stationary launch mines of the enemy will be known and the question will be decided who first presses the button. The submarine still needs to be discovered and the actions of the submarines can be compared with the position of a sniper to destroy the enemy. A nuclear strike will be delivered primarily to launch mines.
            1. Flatter
              Flatter 22 December 2015 16: 09 New
              0
              Stationary mine installations protected air defense missiles with a nuclear warhead. The issue was radically resolved.
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        3. apro
          apro 21 December 2015 18: 02 New
          +3
          Bzhrk much more efficient and cheaper plrb to that already with secrecy they have a complete order and operation is simpler and cheaper.
        4. R-22
          R-22 21 December 2015 19: 05 New
          -1
          but what do you explain with ... you still don’t understand, or maybe he writes any heresy on purpose
    5. Heritologist
      Heritologist 21 December 2015 18: 14 New
      0
      Quote: alekc73
      Great news.

      The news is really good.
      It only bothers the presence on the tab of the ship of the court slime baker and the conjuncturist Medinsky.
    6. kolobok63
      kolobok63 21 December 2015 19: 05 New
      +1
      I'd love to! Strengthen the Army and Navy! Strengthen. Strengthen and STRENGTHEN again! hi
  2. gray smeet
    gray smeet 21 December 2015 15: 17 New
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    Stalin would also sound good. Moreover, it is his birthday today, and here is the bookmark of the ship .... repeat
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 21 December 2015 15: 21 New
      +9
      Quote: gray smeet
      Stalin would also sound good. Moreover, it is his birthday today, and here is the bookmark of the ship .... repeat



      The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III", who heroically died in the Tsushima battle with the entire crew. Continuity of names, so to speak.
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 21 December 2015 15: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Denis Obukhov



        The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III", who heroically died in the Tsushima battle with the entire crew. Continuity of names, so to speak.


        This is all clear. When the ship, for the first time, was called Emperor Alexander III, why now, for the first time, not name Generalissimo Stalin?
        1. Engineer
          Engineer 21 December 2015 15: 34 New
          23
          The Generalissimo Stalin will look good aboard the first Russian nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 21 December 2015 15: 37 New
            +6
            We don’t mind!
          2. ASK505
            ASK505 21 December 2015 18: 21 New
            +2
            By the way, today is Stalin’s birthday. Great was a man.
          3. Alf
            Alf 21 December 2015 19: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Engineer
            The Generalissimo Stalin will look good aboard the first Russian nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

            It’s better to do so.
            "Soviet Union" is the first nuclear aircraft carrier.
            "Joseph Stalin" is a heavy nuclear missile cruiser.
            And so that they always go in pairs, complementing each other.
            But all these are unforgettable dreams. This power will never assign these great names to ships. These names act like purgen on EP.
        2. venaya
          venaya 21 December 2015 15: 37 New
          0
          Quote: gray smeet
          why now for the first time not name Generalisimus Stalin?

          Look at least once on TV, there some foreigners pronounce a certain, not very clear term “Stalinism”. Can you imagine what howl they will raise if someone allows themselves to remember the name of the generalisimus itself ???
          So think, “God saves the safe”, the time has not come yet, we have not deserved this yet, although it’s a pity.
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 21 December 2015 15: 41 New
            +4
            Let foreigners read their compatriots - contemporaries of Stalin.
          2. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 21 December 2015 16: 05 New
            0
            If an aircraft carrier, then do not worry about time) For it is a matter of decades, especially in the current economic situation
          3. goncharov.62
            goncharov.62 21 December 2015 16: 05 New
            +1
            "Imagine what a howl they will raise if someone allows themselves to remember the name of the generalisimus itself ???" Poke on them from a high bell tower! They are not friends to us and (I hope so far) are not enemies. So, a tolerant environment ... Do we ask them and toil about "we deserve it or not."
            1. Temples
              Temples 21 December 2015 16: 38 New
              0
              They are not friends to us and (I hope so far) are not enemies.


              Of course not enemies.
              They just surrounded Russia with bases.
              They want to be closer, nothing more.
              They just want to be as close to us as possible - in the Crimea, in Moscow and in the Urals)))
              From great love to us !!!

              So we need to reciprocate (not enemies after all!)
              We will be as close to the American coast as possible.

              And if Joseph Vassarionovich will guarantee a peaceful dream to the Americans off these shores, this is very nice of us.
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        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 16: 42 New
          0
          Quote: gray smeet
          This is all clear.

          What do you understand, where does it say that the boat is named after an armadillo ??? You are probably blind or want to be blind.
          Quote: gray smeet
          , why now, for the first time, not call Generalissimo Stalin?

          Because they will not name, it is enough to listen to Putin what he says about the personality of Stalin.
        5. Civil
          Civil 21 December 2015 17: 56 New
          -3
          Quote: gray smeet
          Quote: Denis Obukhov



          The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III", who heroically died in the Tsushima battle with the entire crew. Continuity of names, so to speak.


          This is all clear. When the ship, for the first time, was called Emperor Alexander III, why now, for the first time, not name Generalissimo Stalin?


          Comrade Stalin hated tsarism! And burned it with a hot iron!
      2. avt
        avt 21 December 2015 16: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III",

        Which in turn was also named not in honor of the emperor? wassat
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 16: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III"

        I see a photo of the Emperor, but no photo of an armadillo. Do not squeeze your desire out for validity.
        The boat is named after the Emperor
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 22 December 2015 18: 22 New
      0
      Quote: gray smeet
      Stalin would also sound good. Moreover, it is his birthday today, and here is the bookmark of the ship ...

      laughing What are you dreaming about, in our time, they are trying to forget and underestimate the achievements of the USSR by all roundabout ways (supposedly they were backward, neither electronics, nor jeans, nor sausages of 800 varieties, but even repressed without exception through one) because the comparison is not at all in favor of the achievements of the existing government . How many rams have already been poured, starting with the MR pact (it’s strange that almost the whole of Europe doesn’t remember Germans treating the same kind of treaty), ending with “Drowned by the Sun”, bandits, heroes and freaks committee members in films about the Great Patriotic War.
  3. SALLAK
    SALLAK 21 December 2015 15: 17 New
    0
    They froze about the name ... then it is better to call IP ... under Comrade Stalin, the Russian Federation was a much more powerful state!
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 21 December 2015 15: 20 New
      0
      they thought alike and at the same time wrote - mysticism ... rather a regularity.
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 21 December 2015 15: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: SALLAK
      They froze about the name ... then it is better to call IP ... under Comrade Stalin, the Russian Federation was a much more powerful state!



      Generalisimus Stalin ... perhaps, but it is better not to ... still an extremely controversial figure ... it’s like Lenin in the mausoleum, and you would have to make it out, and there’s no need to rock the boat ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 16: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        it’s like Lenin in the mausoleum, and it would be necessary to make

        He is not there.
    3. anfil
      anfil 21 December 2015 15: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: SALLAK
      They froze about the name ... then it is better to call IP ... under Comrade Stalin, the Russian Federation was a much more powerful state!


      Judging by this, it turns out all the laurels to Stalin, and what if you order to forget those great-great-great-great-grandfathers who actually expanded the territory of Russia.

      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 21 December 2015 16: 05 New
        -2
        Quote: anfil


        Judging by this, it turns out all the laurels to Stalin,


        And what kind of laurels does Stalin have? I'm just wondering .... Show the laurels of Stalin! thanks in advance.
        1. anfil
          anfil 21 December 2015 16: 20 New
          0
          Quote: gray smeet
          Quote: anfil


          Judging by this, it turns out all the laurels to Stalin,


          And what kind of laurels does Stalin have? I'm just wondering .... Show the laurels of Stalin! thanks in advance.


          And I’m about this, we will not forget history and say that Stalin is the most, the most and only with him Russia was great.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 22 December 2015 18: 33 New
            +3
            Quote: anfil
            And I’m about this, we will not forget history and say that Stalin is the most, the most and only with him Russia was great

            Is it better to dig out the remains of soft-bodied kings and sing hosanna to them? Under Stalin, the Russian Empire — that is, the USSR — from a practically agricultural country became a powerful industrial power.
            And do not confuse the scale - it is one thing to attach territories that, under the threat of an external enemy, they themselves have practically penetrated us, it is another to oppose the combined European army and defeat.
      2. Fox
        Fox 21 December 2015 16: 08 New
        0
        I wouldn’t really trust such cards. There are more interesting and more precise ones. Yes, and the signatures on the documents say something else than on this card. Like the globe of Ukraine, right))))
        1. anfil
          anfil 21 December 2015 16: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Fox
          I wouldn’t really trust such cards. There are more interesting and more precise ones. Yes, and the signatures on the documents say something else than on this card. Like the globe of Ukraine, right))))


          Perhaps it is roughly compiled, so for visual aid, or more precisely, you can look elsewhere

          FORMATION OF THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE IN XVI-XIX centuries.

          link:http://nsportal.ru/npo-spo/gumanitarnye-nauki/library/2014/08/14/formirovanie-te
          rritorii-rossiyskoy-imperii-v-xvi-xix
      3. SALLAK
        SALLAK 22 December 2015 09: 50 New
        -1
        And what does it have to do with it? Alexander 3 didn’t show himself in anything special, but he did a lot of good, but before Comrade’s achievements Stalin is far from him, very much so. Stalin and Peter I are comparable figures ...
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 16: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: SALLAK
      About the name froze ... then it is better to call IP ..

      The time of communism has passed, the era of the new Russia-imperial is coming!
      1. Civil
        Civil 21 December 2015 20: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: SALLAK
        About the name froze ... then it is better to call IP ..

        The time of communism has passed, the era of the new Russia-imperial is coming!

        And how will it increase the welfare and life expectancy of citizens? Two main indicators of success?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 December 2015 05: 27 New
          -5
          Quote: Civil
          And how will it increase the welfare and life expectancy of citizens?

          Compared to the Soviet period, the well-being of citizens has grown significantly.
          Life expectancy has also grown and has recently been voiced by Putin.
          1. goblin xnumx
            goblin xnumx 22 December 2015 15: 40 New
            +2
            well, it's all about "individual" citizens - according to separate "official statistics - like this one, for example, the arrested director of the audit department of state contracts of the Russian Ministry of Defense Dmitry Nedobor is accused of attempted bribe in the amount of 48 million rubles. About his arrest it became known last night, but the amount not called

            Read more at RBC:
            http://www.rbc.ru/politics/22/12/2015/567927169a79478b101214e8?utm_source=gismet
            eo & utm_medium = news & utm_campaign = gism_top3
      2. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 22 December 2015 15: 29 New
        +1
        and then again 5 signs of imperialism and .... not the best era
      3. SALLAK
        SALLAK 23 December 2015 09: 57 New
        +1
        Yeah, there is a king, nobles and merchants are also present ... Well, slaves ... Everything is called differently, but in fact it’s the same thing ... For me, the USSR is better than such an "empire" ... From the recent history of Russia there is nothing still not to surpass the achievements of the USSR, but at least to equal them ... You can put the minuses, but the facts are, to my great regret, because I also live at this time ...
  4. alfa19638
    alfa19638 21 December 2015 15: 17 New
    0
    So that everything goes according to plan. With God !!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 December 2015 15: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: alfa19638
      So that everything goes according to plan. With God !!!

      And when will Yaseni-M begin to be laid at least once a year? One Severodvinsk, which has been built since the year 93, plows the expanses of the oceans in splendid isolation ... and we need these MAPLs as air. Besides, such submarines of this project really best in class. Eh ...
      1. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 22 December 2015 19: 10 New
        +1
        It largely depends on when they begin to implement the new GPV, according to which 1000000% will still order them. wink
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 December 2015 20: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Anton Gavrilov
          It largely depends on when they begin to implement the new GPV, according to which 1000000% will still order them. wink

          We don’t need them in 20 years, but in the near future ... and there’s a lot of talk about 5th generation submarines, but in fact there’s one idle talk, like with an aircraft carrier ...
  5. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 21 December 2015 15: 18 New
    0
    These boats have a great future.
  6. Magic archer
    Magic archer 21 December 2015 15: 19 New
    +2
    I am glad that this is a series. Boreas and Ash-trees are the future of our submarine fleet! I hope the economic downturn will not affect the pace of construction!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 December 2015 15: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      I am glad that this is a series. Boreas and Ash-trees are the future of our submarine fleet! I hope the economic downturn will not affect the pace of construction!

      Ash-M Kazan may be let down in the 16th year, and Novosibirsk is unclear when ... with the Ash-trees is still deaf. More than the 7th laid and 3 in the ranks, and Severodvinsk as it was one, it remains the only one of its kind this submarine is the best in its class. It is not in vain that Admiral Matrassovsky has a mock-up of Yasen on the table and not Sivulf ...
      1. avt
        avt 21 December 2015 16: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        and Severodvinsk, as he was alone, remains one of a kind, although this submarine is the best in its class.

        request The campaign was shifted to the right for a year at least, and all the forces and means were thrown for repair of the 971's, even the titanium ones were inhibited.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 December 2015 16: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: avt
          Quote: NEXUS
          and Severodvinsk, as he was alone, remains one of a kind, although this submarine is the best in its class.

          request The campaign was shifted to the right for a year at least, and all the forces and means were thrown for repair of the 971's, even the titanium ones were inhibited.

          So all the other three submarines are also shifted to the right for at least a year ... there is little joy, of course ... Ash-M is a unique boat and we need them no less than Boreev. I don’t understand our Moscow Region ... the project is wonderful, but we wait for now morally obsolete ... anger is not enough, damn it.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 December 2015 19: 17 New
            0
            Repair 971 is carried out by another plant, not Sevmash. And on Sevmash they plow with Boreas.
      2. mav1971
        mav1971 21 December 2015 19: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        It is not for nothing that Admiral Matrassovsky has a mock-up of Ashen on the table, and not Sivulf ...


        Sivulf has a delivery car! :)
        He rides it at any time. it’s only worth dialing the cherished number and the helicopter will dominate :)))
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 December 2015 19: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: mav1971

          Sivulf has a delivery car! :)
          He rides it at any time. it’s only worth dialing the cherished number and the helicopter will dominate :)))

          They had Sivulf for the needs of special forces ... they still didn’t save him from children's sores. One word, a child prodigy for 3 billion ...
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 21 December 2015 20: 13 New
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: mav1971

            Sivulf has a delivery car! :)
            He rides it at any time. it’s only worth dialing the cherished number and the helicopter will dominate :)))

            They had Sivulf for the needs of special forces ... they still didn’t save him from children's sores. One word, a child prodigy for 3 billion ...


            For special purposes, in general, the best is given.
            And the chiefs of the fleets and their last submarines, and both served on special boats.
            difficult coincidence.
            No wonder they are. oh no wonder.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: mav1971
              For special purposes, in general, the best is given.
              And the chiefs of the fleets and their last submarines, and both served on special boats.
              difficult coincidence.
              No wonder they are. oh no wonder.

              For three lard Baku, let them build laughing A fair wind to them in a hunchbacked back and a tram to meet. hi
  7. sds87
    sds87 21 December 2015 15: 19 New
    0
    God grant! The big ship - a great voyage with the daily defense of Russia from the encroachments of all kinds of enemies. I wish him a long walk in the seas and oceans.
  8. venaya
    venaya 21 December 2015 15: 20 New
    +2
    The name of this submarine "Emperor Alexander III" is significant!
    I hope that the strength that will be in it will never be needed, except for demonstration launches and exercises.
    1. anfil
      anfil 21 December 2015 15: 58 New
      +1
      It will not be needed if the country does not have the power that renames everything and everything for the sake of the ruling party.
  9. prabiz
    prabiz 21 December 2015 15: 21 New
    +6
    It is correctly said "RUSSIA ONLY TWO ALLIES - THE ARMY AND THE Navy!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 December 2015 15: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: prabiz
      It is correctly said "RUSSIA ONLY TWO ALLIES - THE ARMY AND THE Navy!

      And where are you doing it? wink
  10. Same lech
    Same lech 21 December 2015 15: 22 New
    +1
    We are building nuclear submarines at SEVERODVINSK
    in MARIUPOL, the Nazis are building torchlight processions ... what a contrasting news.

    But still assign the names of the emperors to the submarines in my opinion too ... the communists will be very unhappy .... and the names should be such that they unite our motley society ... left + right + green + centrists = RUSSIA
    In the history of RUSSIA, in addition to emperors, there were many equally respected people among the people, including among the Communists.
    1. Fox
      Fox 21 December 2015 16: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      In the history of RUSSIA, in addition to emperors, there were many equally respected people among the people, including among the Communists.

      Communists also support Alexander 3. It was a statesman.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 December 2015 05: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Fox
        Communists also support Alexander 3

        I noticed koment from the communist laughing

        Comrade Stalin hated tsarism! And burned it with a hot iron!
  11. bad
    bad 21 December 2015 15: 23 New
    -3
    .... some kind of Svidomo rat minusnul news .. do not like it? .. so otozh .. laughing
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 21 December 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      No, it’s not Svidomo, it’s those who believe that if the boats do not build medicine will be like in Europe yes And mandarins will become cheaper ... And why should they all have this medicine? Probably ill request laughing
  12. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 21 December 2015 15: 28 New
    -2
    Not a good name, there was already one ship with a similar name in Tsushima.

    But in general I put PLUS.
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 21 December 2015 16: 07 New
      +1
      The tradition of calling new ships the names of old decommissioned or dead - in the Russian fleet has existed since the advent of this fleet.
  13. hartlend
    hartlend 21 December 2015 15: 29 New
    -6
    Nonsense is written, but everyone jumps from joy to the ceiling, reading diagonally chtoli. I quote: "Said the Eagle" and "a total displacement of 24 tons." But the author, as always, is unknown.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 21 December 2015 15: 30 New
      +2
      Typo. It is about thousand tons naturally.
    2. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 21 December 2015 15: 52 New
      0
      Quote: hartlend
      "Said the Eagle" and "total displacement of 24 tons."


      I have already posted a comment on this topic. By the way, without cons to you. While writing to you they have already been instructed. For what? I do not know. Probably because they read not on the legs, but on the diagonal.
      Sincerely. EPM
    3. The comment was deleted.
  14. Wedmak
    Wedmak 21 December 2015 15: 31 New
    0
    Has the first been released long ago, yes? Total now on the stocks of the ship 4 ship.
  15. kapitan92
    kapitan92 21 December 2015 15: 36 New
    +8
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    Quote: gray smeet
    Stalin would also sound good. Moreover, it is his birthday today, and here is the bookmark of the ship .... repeat



    The boat was named not so much in honor of the emperor as in honor of the battleship "Emperor Alexander III", who heroically died in the Tsushima battle with the entire crew. Continuity of names, so to speak.

    .......... "Emperor Alexander III is a Russian squadron battleship. It was laid down on May 11, 1900 in St. Petersburg at the Baltic Shipyard (chief builder V. Kh. Offenberg), and was launched on August 3, 1901. The battleship was commissioned on October 12, 1903. It was staffed by the Guards Crew and was part of the 2nd Pacific Squadron, which went to the aid of the First Squadron locked in Port Arthur. Before sailing, the ship was visited by Sovereign Nikolai Alexandrovich.

    He took part in the Tsushima battle. After the failure of the flagship battleship, he led the combat convoy of Russian ships. Soon, he himself suffered serious injuries in the bow and moved to the center of the squadron, giving the Borodino a head seat. The last half hour before the death was under concentrated fire from the armored cruisers Nissin and Kassuga. He sank on May 14 (27), 1905 at 18:50. None of the armadillo team escaped. Excluded from the lists of the fleet on September 15, 1905 ... "
    You will pay attention to the terms of construction of the latest armadillo in tsarist "backward" Russia. From bookmark to input 3 years!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 December 2015 16: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: kapitan92
      You will pay attention to the terms of construction of the latest armadillo in tsarist "backward" Russia. From bookmark to input 3 years!

      So this is the Baltic factory - they always built quickly there.

      In order not to be unfounded: on November 9, 1895, two identical battleships of the same type were laid down at the Baltic and Admiralty factories: Peresvet and Oslyabya.
      "Relight" passed on August 6, 1901. I’ll make it easy - only in the summer of 1903.
      The frequency response, while Oslyabya was being built, the Baltic Plant managed to build the second EDB of the series - Victory. It was laid 3,5 years later, Oslyaby, and passed almost a year earlier!.

      The casket just opens - the Baltic factory became state-owned only in 1894. Unlike chronically underfunded state-owned factories, it was equipped with the latest technology, had qualified personnel and an established management system that had not yet suffered from excessive bureaucracy.
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 December 2015 15: 42 New
    0
    Well; within the announced deadline. 4 Borea at different stages of construction, as well as Ash.

    Why is our industrial production falling?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 December 2015 16: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Gormengast
      Well; within the announced deadline. 4 Borea at different stages of construction, as well as Ash.

      Excuse me, how many Ash-trees are in our ranks? One! With Boreas, we have more or less, but with the MAPL of the Yasen-M project so far everything is very foggy ... Kazan may be lowered next year if everything is without problems, and at the shipyard three more submarines at different stages of construction ...
  17. Drshan
    Drshan 21 December 2015 15: 44 New
    +3
    I approve the name: HIS Majesty was not for nothing called the PEACEKEEPER!
  18. bylec
    bylec 21 December 2015 15: 44 New
    +2
    What are these 24 tons of displacement? ento boat ali how?
  19. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 21 December 2015 16: 22 New
    0
    Good news.
  20. wef
    wef 21 December 2015 16: 29 New
    +1
    I approve the name.
    The lead ship is Yuri Dolgoruky, the second is Alexander Nevsky, the third is Vladimir Monomakh, the fourth is Prince Vladimir, the fifth is Prince Oleg, and the sixth is Generalissimo Suvorov.
    There are as many ships to be built as there are worthy people in the history of Russia.
  21. for_White_Only
    for_White_Only 21 December 2015 16: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: anfil
    Quote: gray smeet
    Quote: anfil


    Judging by this, it turns out all the laurels to Stalin,


    And what kind of laurels does Stalin have? I'm just wondering .... Show the laurels of Stalin! thanks in advance.


    And I’m about this, we will not forget history and say that Stalin is the most, the most and only with him Russia was great.

    For komunyak it is)) tsarism is a rotten regime, just that, the territory of Russia has increased FIG knows how many times, and komunyaki that in 17 that in 91 only squandered this territory, cattle ...
  22. sinoptic
    sinoptic 21 December 2015 17: 34 New
    -1
    At a shocking pace, we are laying the cruiser. Pleases.
    They like 8 plan to build. When calculating that all these 8 missile carriers can.
    Each missile carries 10 of their warheads of 16 on each cruiser.

    We get 1280 hits of the JBB on the adversary - this is such tremendous power!

    Knowing that in the USA there are two hundred and seventy-three cities with a population of more than one hundred thousand people ...
    We get just a breathtaking picture of the apocalypse.

    We are not better.
    In Russia, there are approximately 1100 cities, of which 163 are more than 100 thousand inhabitants.

    If you think about it, your knees give way.
    1. Alf
      Alf 21 December 2015 21: 13 New
      0
      Quote: sinoptic
      Knowing that in the USA there are two hundred and seventy-three cities with a population of more than one hundred thousand people ...

      In general, it is true, but let me insert my five cents.
      The first blow will be delivered not at the cities (they will not run away anywhere), but at the locations of the nuclear weapons base and command posts.
  23. 1961NNN
    1961NNN 21 December 2015 18: 04 New
    0
    Bookmarking ceremony "EMPEROR ALEXANDER III" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DZ83NyUiBg
  24. David 2633
    David 2633 21 December 2015 20: 04 New
    0
    nevertheless, a series of 8 units is not enough, if only the Ash-trees were doubled, including a balanced submelt.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 December 2015 20: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: David 2633
      nevertheless, a series of 8 units is not enough, if only the Ash-trees were doubled, including a balanced submelt.

      There is an agreement on carriers and the number of warheads, START-3 is called ... because of it, our hands are tied ... alas request
      1. David 2633
        David 2633 21 December 2015 20: 17 New
        0
        I know, dear, but what prevents instead of maces from equipping them with cruise missiles? nevertheless, in the near future it will be necessary to disable BDRs and this somehow needs to be compensated, not to the detriment of defense capability.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: David 2633
          I know, dear, but what prevents instead of maces from equipping them with cruise missiles? nevertheless, in the near future it will be necessary to disable BDRs and this somehow needs to be compensated, not to the detriment of defense capability.

          And where are you going to range ... is there a difference, 8 thousand km or 1,5-2,5 thousand km?
          1. David 2633
            David 2633 21 December 2015 21: 16 New
            0
            There is no exact data on the caliber’s range, and the problem of increasing the range seems to me completely solvable, and the available range in open sources is sufficient, patrolling the northern seas, covering almost the entire territory of the adversary. something like this)))
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: David 2633
              There is no exact data on the caliber’s range, and the problem of increasing the range seems to me completely solvable, and the available range in open sources is sufficient, patrolling the northern seas, covering almost the entire territory of the adversary. something like this)))

              It’s true that there is no exact range ... but if there are Gauges on the submarine, the boat should be located relatively close to the coast of the adversary, which makes it much more likely to be detected (do not forget that the Caliber missile is subsonic) ... but with the Mace, such there is no condition ... even if from the Arctic, even from the Antarctic wink
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 21 December 2015 21: 34 New
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                So we all went through this already. SSGN project 667AT "Pear". They cut out the fifth missile compartment and installed a new one with 8 TAs under the C-10 Grenade. Ammunition - 32 missiles. This is in addition to torpedo weapons. In range, the Pomegranate is comparable to 3M14 Caliber, only with SBN.
              2. David 2633
                David 2633 21 December 2015 21: 49 New
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                This is understandable) but what about VNEU and our diesel engines ?, recently there has been a lot of noise around them, but in the ranks we still do not see this.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 21 December 2015 21: 53 New
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                  Quote: David 2633
                  This is understandable) but what about VNEU and our diesel engines ?, recently there has been a lot of noise around them, but in the ranks we still do not see this.

                  With anaerobic problem setting ... requestUnfortunately, Lada can’t get it at all.
                  1. David 2633
                    David 2633 21 December 2015 21: 56 New
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                    I want to believe that the problems will be solved, and we will get such boats and we will be able to build them in a much larger series than the boreas, such more needed)
                2. rudolff
                  rudolff 21 December 2015 22: 39 New
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                  Rubin announced the end of bench tests and the beginning of marine tests in 2016. They hinted flatly that they could finish the work before the completion of the construction of two serial, second and third Lada projects. That is, in a deep theory, they can already be from VNEU to ECG. It is doubtful. But the main St. Petersburg certainly does not shine, the next year the trial operation has been extended.
            2. Wheel
              Wheel 22 December 2015 03: 04 New
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              Quote: David 2633
              There is no exact data on the caliber’s range, and the problem of increasing the range seems to me completely solvable, and the available range in open sources is sufficient, patrolling the northern seas, covering almost the entire territory of the adversary. something like this)))

              Somehow wrong ...
              The Kyrgyz Republic does not reach the adversary from the northern seas.
              These toys are intended for European and Middle Eastern partners.
      2. Wheel
        Wheel 22 December 2015 02: 54 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: David 2633
        nevertheless, a series of 8 units is not enough, if only the Ash-trees were doubled, including a balanced submelt.

        There is an agreement on carriers and the number of warheads, START-3 is called ... because of it, our hands are tied ... alas request

        Even within its framework, Russia has the right to deploy as many as 200 carriers, if Che.
  25. looker-on
    looker-on 21 December 2015 20: 04 New
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    Reforms are always difficult. And we don’t like reformers. For all my dislike of the authorities as a whole, I believe that President Putin deserved to write himself in the name of the ship. In 20-30 years. If that doesn’t come up, as a person who has suffered a lot, the muddy burden is still without a minute of WW3. Time is hard and the fact that something positive is happening is a miracle. To call the submarine "Emperor Alexander III" in our country is also a miracle. Article plus.
  26. Old26
    Old26 21 December 2015 23: 01 New
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    Quote: Sveles
    how would they be known?

    Apparently, you haven’t heard anything about such treaties as SALT and START. So here. Under these agreements, we give them and they give us the coordinates of the mines to the nearest second.

    Quote: Sveles
    The voivode is the king-rocket of the MEGATON CLASS, although it can be equipped with kiloton warheads. The blow delivered by such a warhead does not just erase the cities, but also entire regions and small countries such as England

    VOEVODA never deployed with a megaton monoblock. In addition, I do not know where you read such data, but the sturgeon needs to be cut several hundred times. The radius of continuous destruction of even a 25-megaton BG is estimated at 2-3 tens of kilometers. I didn’t know that England was so small ...

    Quote: Sveles
    For example, we were imposed an agreement on NON-PLACEMENT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN SPACE. Have you ever wondered why this was done? Because the Americans ARE NOT ABLE to do SPACE STATIONS and cannot place rockets in space. This is where we need to invest money. What is APLSN? The sea still belongs more to the Americans and their allies, they have more ships and submarines, the coastline and the adjacent airfields are longer, we have much less, so we need a RESPONSE FROM ANOTHER AREA ...

    In fact, the Soviet Union was the initiator of the conclusion of an agreement on not placing nuclear weapons in outer space. Therefore, it is difficult to say that they imposed it on us.

    Americans do not know how to do orbital stations ??? It must be understood then that the ISS is a purely Russian station? Or, nevertheless, the number of American segments and modules is greater than Russian. And probably "Skylab" we made them and gave them ?? But she had a mass of almost 90 tons, when ours had about 12-16

    Quote: Sveles
    in general, everything is clear with you, I will answer the last one, an ekranoplan, what would you know on the radar becomes visible only within the line of sight, and this is from the height of the ship 30-50km, and the same MOSKIT can be launched for 120km, therefore it was forced to remove

    It must be understood that you do not know about the presence of the enemy AWACS aircraft? Or do you know, but do not consider it important? A radar of such AWACS can detect a target like a bomber from almost 600 km. In addition, the ekranoplan is quite sensitive to the weather. And by the sum of the characteristics it loses to both the plane and the ship. the remaining one ekranoplan rusts on a slip of the Dagdiesel plant in Kaspiysk

    Quote: apro
    Bzhrk much more efficient and cheaper plrb to that already with secrecy they have a complete order and operation is simpler and cheaper.

    The question is rather complicated. The main thing is how to count. But in any case, the autonomy of the BZHRK is much lower than that of the SSBNs. And it is not known what is cheaper. Build and equip missiles with 2 boats or deploy one BZHRK division. And the costs should take into account not only the cost of the BZHRK itself with missiles, but also the work on the creation of field BSPs, points of permanent deployment, and the strengthening of routes
    1. Sweles
      Sweles 22 December 2015 01: 42 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Apparently, you haven’t heard anything about such treaties as SALT and START. So here. Under these agreements, we give them and they give us the coordinates of the mines to the nearest second.


      when the United States wanted to improve the pro, they didn’t give a damn about the contract referring to their national interests, or NATO expansion, the same kind of conversation was not expanding, but ... should we stick to international treaties that are obviously at the expense of us?

      Quote: Old26
      VOEVODA has never been deployed with a megaton monoblock. In addition, I do not know where you read such data, but the sturgeon needs to be cut several hundred times. The radius of continuous destruction of even a 25-megaton BG is estimated at 2-3 tens of kilometers. I didn’t know that England was so small ...


      well it's a lie
      R-36M2 missile system "Voivode"

      Maximum firing range: missiles with a "light" (monoblock) warhead - 16 thousand km, missiles with a divided warhead for individual guidance - 11 thousand km.
      Circular probable deviation - 220 m.
      The maximum starting weight is 211 tons.
      The mass of the head: monoblock - 8,5 tons, with a split head - 8,8 tons.
      Nuclear charge power: monoblock - 8 megatons, with a separable warhead - 10 charges of 0,75 megatons.
      Rocket length - 34,3 m.
      The maximum diameter of the case is 3 m.
      The original warranty period for storage is 15 years.
      It is currently extended to 23 years.

      http://bagira.guru/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=543&id=4197&view=article

      the fact that 25 megatons is 2-3 dozens of kilometers of destruction, please link ...
      for example, in Hiroshima, Malysh’s power is 15 kilotonnes, and the area of ​​continuous destruction is up to 2 km
      http://vestnik.kr/article/articles_expert/3697.txt
      and besides, we are talking about a deep-seated nuclear explosion, and here the effect can be much more serious, however, I admit that a few megalogs will be needed in England ...
    2. Sweles
      Sweles 22 December 2015 02: 16 New
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      Quote: Old26
      In fact, the Soviet Union was the initiator of the conclusion of an agreement on not placing nuclear weapons in outer space. Therefore, it is difficult to say that they imposed it on us.


      same link
      however, even if it was the USSR that proposed banning nuclear weapons, then since then a lot of water has flowed, then the USSR was probably beneficial to ban weapons in space, because it simply had fewer nuclear bombs than the United States. Now it does not matter, it is necessary to break the treaty because Russia is in the grip of NATO and the fundamental peace treaties have already been violated ...

      Quote: Old26
      Americans do not know how to do orbital stations ??? It must be understood then that the ISS is a purely Russian station? Or, nevertheless, the number of American segments and modules is greater than Russian. And probably "Skylab" we made them and gave them ?? But she had a mass of almost 90 tons, when ours had about 12-16


      Well, here it is, the ISS is designed according to the SOVIET-RUSSIAN STANDARDS, the central module Zvezda is ours, on all of our modules NOT our docking systems -Does NOT know how to dock docks, and this is important.
      As for your skyleb, it’s the same myth as the Moon’s Amer’s resolution. The substitute was calculated by the doctor of physical sciences Alexander Popov ...
      http://allconspirology.org/books/Aleksandr-Popov_CHelovek-na-Lune--Kakie-dokazat
      elstva - / 32
      Quote: Old26
      It must be understood that you do not know about the presence of the enemy AWACS aircraft? Or do you know, but do not consider it important? A radar of such AWACS can detect a target like a bomber from almost 600 km. In addition, the ekranoplan is quite sensitive to the weather. And by the sum of the characteristics it loses to both the plane and the ship. the remaining one ekranoplan rusts on a slip of the Dagdiesel plant in Kaspiysk


      Amer’s drills, of course, always hang over the ships?

      Quote: Old26
      The question is rather complicated. The main thing is considered

      even the fact that there is an atomic reactor on board the boat makes it both more expensive and more dangerous, not counting the thickness of the water surrounding the enemy and other weapons collected in one heap, making the boat as a very dangerous object ...
  27. Old26
    Old26 21 December 2015 23: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: David 2633
    There is no exact data on the caliber’s range, and the problem of increasing the range seems to me completely solvable, and the available range in open sources is sufficient, patrolling the northern seas, covering almost the entire territory of the adversary. something like this)))

    Somehow not so. In order for the missile to hit the target, it must pass through the correction areas. I have not yet heard that someone managed to make electronic ice maps ...

    Quote: sinoptic
    Each missile carries 10 of their warheads of 16 on each cruiser.

    Ten warheads on the mace ??? With six seats on the breeding platform ???
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 22 December 2015 05: 21 New
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    as you call a boat, it’ll sail, and ... this boat will still show itself, so exactly soldier
    1. Rav_Poroh
      Rav_Poroh 22 December 2015 09: 57 New
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      That's right. As long as no one thought of the name of Nicholas II to name a ship, trouble can not be avoided. Let's hope for the superstition of sailors and shipbuilders.
  29. Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 December 2015 08: 42 New
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    Northwind, the north wind ... The more there are, the faster the "hot" heads of our "friends" and open enemies will cool down ...
  30. kh7129394
    kh7129394 22 December 2015 11: 55 New
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    God help you! Mother is very happy for Russia.
  31. Maz
    Maz 22 December 2015 14: 31 New
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    Good luck! Hurray! Fleet - to be!
  32. DPN
    DPN 22 December 2015 18: 26 New
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    The autocracy and, of course, the STRONG STRUCTURE for the younger GENERATION !!!!
    It was easier to name in honor of Nicholas-2. All the same, he is closer to today, and they want to raise them to the rank of saints.
  33. CRASH
    CRASH 22 December 2015 19: 32 New
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    They make barracks from the country, if you want to live well, go serve, and in the event of a popular uprising, protect your lactating hand. And who is not in the barracks, live as you like, but we will freeze your pensions, so do not live to old age.
  34. msm
    msm 22 December 2015 19: 50 New
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    You can laugh, but this is my favorite king. Science: Lobachevsky, Mendeleev, Butlerov, Popov, Vavilov ... Literature: Tolstoy, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Paustovsky ... Music: Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Scriabin ... Poetry: Pasternak, Yesenin ... Aviation: Mozhaysky, Sikorsky. .. Higher mechanics (after the revolution they dispersed all over the world) ... For the first time in the world, jury trials ... Freedom of the printed word ... IT WAS AN ERA WHICH WE PROCESSED !!!
  35. Flatter
    Flatter 22 December 2015 20: 02 New
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    Tsarist Russia was at least 50 years behind advanced Western countries. So battleships and battleships need to be designed. And Alexander3 will be very appropriate.
  36. Starik72
    Starik72 22 December 2015 21: 28 New
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    The news is very great! Only with the name (THIS IS MY OPINION) they gave a blunder. Why is Alexander3? I think it would be better to call GENERALISIMUS STALIN !!! After all, HE with his people won such a brutal war, and managed to restore the country after such a devastation. Well, now you can minus me "gentlemen" liberals and democrats.
  37. DPN
    DPN 23 December 2015 01: 51 New
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    Quote: Starik72
    ? I think it would be better to call GENERALISIMUS STALIN !!! After all, he won such a fierce war with his people


    That’s why they won’t name him by name, the Whites came to power and the Reds lost on this SOVIET not in honor.
  38. Old warrior
    Old warrior 23 December 2015 12: 11 New
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    “Russia does not have friends - They are afraid of Our enormity. Russia has only two allies - Its Army and Its Fleet!” (C) Alexander III. At the present stage, we can add that the Russian Military Space Forces of Strategic Purpose are the "organ" that the whole World will have.
  39. Besmaster
    Besmaster 23 December 2015 14: 02 New
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    Great news. It seems they should lay the eighth. I would like the same good news from the slipways where surface ships are being built.
  40. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 24 December 2015 07: 32 New
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    The good news and people are provided with work and contribution to the defense ...
  41. VB
    VB 24 December 2015 14: 32 New
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    God grant and build more