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Chinese view of Russia "in decline"

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The other day, the Xinhua Agency told the world about the "decline of agriculture" and "de-industrialization" of Russia. The country's economy is still built on the influx of “petrodollars”, and with a low price of black gold, Russia's GDP will fall. The structural crisis in the country will lead to the fact that the manufacturing industry along with the agricultural sector will lose the possibility of rapid recovery. Western sanctions will be added to the Russian economy. Against the background of political tension, the flow of investments has decreased and the cost of foreign loans for Russian enterprises has increased. In short, the Chinese agency buried Russia. At least, Russia does not shine with the current government.


Chinese view of Russia "in decline"


On the eve of D. Medvedev's visit to the People's Republic of China in Moscow, there were real victorious moods. Heard fanfare.

Russia and China expect to increase trade to 200 billion dollars over five years. This will be facilitated by large-scale projects launched in the coming years, said Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, giving an interview to Renmin Ribao on the eve of his visit to China. This was reported by 13 December TASS.

Recall that the meetings of the heads of government of Russia and China are held once a year. At the current meeting, the parties signed more than three dozen documents on cooperation: here is the joint development of high-tech projects, including the prefix "nano", and the nuclear industry, and aircraft building, and more.

On December 17, Dmitry Medvedev, who heads the Russian government, completed his official visit to the Middle Kingdom. “Each such meeting ends with the signing of documents,” said the head of the cabinet. This meeting was already the twentieth in a row, recalls "Russian newspaper".

"Only in recent years, these meetings began to bring visible results to our economies, and therefore - to people who live in China and Russia," - quotes the publication of Mr. Medvedev. But ten years ago, trade and investment cooperation was several times smaller.

It was said about the bright Russian-Chinese future.

The plans include an increase in turnover to 200 billion dollars - by 2020 year. The governments of the two countries are not embarrassed by the economic problems in the world, but on the contrary, they see incentives to search for new options for mutually beneficial cooperation: “I fully support what Mr. Li Keqiang said about the need to respond to the current economic situation, market weakness, volatility markets - the need to look for new regimes, new ways, areas of cooperation, including including a number of challenges that our countries and our economies face. ”

"We need to go to new niches, and somewhere to increase physical volumes," the head of the Russian government added.

“The development of relations between our countries has really acquired the character of a special level, these are relations of strategic partnership and interaction, and this has penetrated the work of the governments of our states over the past year. The dialogue between our governments is very intensive, all the colleagues regularly communicate, ”Dmitry Medvedev quotes. "First channel".

So, we should note, Mr. Medvedev admitted that the “economic conjuncture” is not the same, but the goals remain ambitious, and there is “strategic partnership and interaction”. And yet the “visible fruits” described by the Russian prime minister, apparently, were somewhat surprised even by the well-worn Chinese.

It is not easy 17 December Zhao Yu from the state agency Xinhua gave a lengthy commentary on the economic future of Russia. The commentary, in the title, asked a direct (and probably rather offensive for Mr. Medvedev, more precisely, for the Kremlin) question: can Russia withstand the test of strength against the backdrop of a complex crisis?

Judging by the theses, scattered here and there in the text of the Chinese author, the answer is implied pessimistic.

According to Comrade Zhao Yu, Russia is now "going through a difficult period." The treasury in the country is still packed with "petrodollars": as before, they are "an important component of the economy of the Russian Federation."

Here are the sad data from Russian economic gurus: 1) The Ministry of Economic Development says that with the price of oil in 40 dollars per barrel, Russia's GDP will fall by 5 percent; 2) according to the Ministry of Finance estimates, in this case the budget will not be more than 3 trillion. rub.

But not the actual decline in world prices for black gold will strike the Russian economy at the very heart. The root of the crisis, that is one of the main causes of economic instability 2014-2015. in Russia, "the structural crisis of the economy, which began in the year 2012."

The analyst briefly describes the essence of such a crisis:

"Its essence lies in the de-industrialization of the economy and the decline of agriculture, and after its completion, as a rule, there is the impossibility of a rapid recovery of the manufacturing industry and the agricultural sector."


It puts pressure on Russia and the West. Since the beginning of the Ukrainian crisis, sanctions are in effect against the Russian Federation. Such obvious geopolitical tensions led to a decrease in the flow of investment in the Russian Federation.

At the same time, for Russian banks and enterprises the cost of foreign loans “increased significantly”.

Finally, inflation. Last year, the author recalls, the devaluation of the ruble against the US dollar and the euro amounted to 72,2% and 51,7%, respectively. The currency crisis led to a decrease in real incomes of the population and, of course, consumer demand.

According to Zhao Yu, it is impossible to get out of the systemic crisis without overcoming the “imbalance in the development of the financial and real sectors of the economy." And in Russia they are not only not overcome, but "continue to grow."

Oh yeah, the Russians developed an "anti-crisis plan." It implies: a) transition to a one-year budget (from 2016 year); b) the expansion of economic freedom while reducing the presence of the state in the economy; c) increasing the intellectual potential of Russians.

It does not seem that the Chinese believed in the validity of these points.

In addition to the economic crisis, Moscow also has to fight against terrorism, and at the same time improve relations with the United States. Recently, US Secretary of State John Kerry paid a visit to Moscow, said the journalist. V. Putin’s meeting with D. Kerry took more than three hours. But she "did not bring breakthroughs in relations between the two countries." On both sides, the analyst believes, “apparently, there is no willingness to make substantial concessions.”

Further, the material presents the opinion of the Director of the Institute of Russia at the Chinese Academy of Contemporary International Relations Feng Yujun.

He said that because of the Ukrainian crisis, Russia was in the gravest strategic impasse since the beginning of the 21st century. The sharp decline in oil prices, coupled with Western sanctions, led the Russian economy to a “depression”. Mistrust has increased significantly in Russian-American relations. Finally, Russia and NATO, as in the old days, began to consider each other as strategic opponents.

In the short and medium term, the material indicates, it will be difficult for the West to change the general policy regarding Russia.

What conclusion does the Chinese author make?

According to him, the Russians are able to overcome a difficult crisis by relying "on their own strength and intelligence." Also, they will help "effective cooperation with other countries."

Obviously, with China, add on my own. After all, he is our main partner, partner of the present and future. Moreover, a strategic partner. Mr. Medvedev will not lie: “The development of relations between our countries has really acquired the character of a special level, these are relations of strategic partnership and interaction ...”

By the way, there are no inaccuracies in the Xinhua material. Who can say that the Russian budget does not depend on oil? Yes, the Ministry of Finance itself will not say this. Who is ready to announce that the price of oil does not affect the Russian economy? It does not even occur to the Ministry of Economic Development. Who will refute the current exchange rate of the ruble against the euro and the dollar? Yes, there is no one to refute, the ruble falls almost every day. And foreign loans turned out to be incredibly expensive for Russian enterprises. And without loans over the hill, we have long been unable to. No one dares to declare a sudden increase in investment from abroad and the abolition of Western sanctions. De-industrialization of the economy is also not news. Even other military plants, as it turns out, do not live here, but survive. Apparently, inspired by Kremlin propaganda.

It is strange, of course, that the Chinese did not write anything about the outstanding successes of Rosnano and similar "intellectual" organizations. Evidently, Medvedev did not want to upset much, for whom it only remains to rely on "effective cooperation with other countries."

Chinese material is the same recognition of Russia as a raw materials appendage, only in other words. And with a different guideline: in the future, Russia will have the role of not a western, but a Chinese appendage. Sorry, strategic partner.

Russian experts are skeptical about the bright predictions voiced by Prime Minister Medvedev. Deputy Director of the Institute of Russian-Chinese Strategic Interaction Andrei Devyatov said "Free Press"that in cooperation between Russia and China "there is absolutely no dynamics":

“... The trade turnover between our countries this year has fallen by a third. They promised to cooperate on 100 billion dollars, our prime minister spoke of growth to 200 billion by 2020 year. But after all, Medvedev still counts in US dollars, thinking in categories of dollars! China decided to reply simply to notify us all about its position. The thing is that there is absolutely no dynamic in Russian-Chinese relations today! ”


The Chinese say: “Take a look at what’s happening in your country. We have a Chinese dream, but what do you have? ”China asks the question:“ How do you want to cooperate with us? ”“ And according to all the circumstances, it turns out, ”the expert noted,“ that we answer: “None”.

“How much have we been told about the“ Power of Siberia ”. But what about her? The Chinese are clearly not satisfied with the development of the project. The Xinhua Agency actually says that we are lying to Beijing. The Chinese always talk with the strong and responsible. Now they just let them know what they think of what is happening in Russia. ”


“The publication in Xinhua clearly indicates that Medvedev did not agree with the Chinese leadership, the situation is very simple,” said Andrei Ostrovsky, Deputy Director of the Institute of Far Eastern Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences. - Apparently, the conversation was held in such a tone that the Chinese decided to express their discontent publicly. On the eve of the visit, I assumed that there would be problems at the talks, now the fears were confirmed. ”

According to the expert, the Chinese are worried about the fall in trade volumes. Why they fall is clear: the ruble collapsed. Previously, for the yuan was given 3,5 rubles, and today 11. The world price of oil has fallen. How to increase the turnover? For this, the expert believes, should change trading patterns. Now Russia supplies Celestial oil, and gets consumer goods and "some engineering products." And it is necessary to engage in serious projects, invest in production, develop joint scientific and technical projects.

In addition, China is putting pressure on Moscow, using "its economic power and the deterioration of relations between Russia and the West." Russia has no “trumps”. “Before, we could say in negotiations with the Chinese that we have the West,” said the expert. - But Europe has now decided to minimize the supply of energy from Russia. As a result, we may be with energy resources, but without markets. China is taking advantage of this. ”

“Can the publication in Xinhua be considered a manifestation of discontent by Medvedev personally?” Asked the “SP” correspondent of the interviewee.

“That's right,” he replied. “Russia is not written off from the accounts as a whole, but the government of Medvedev.”

That is why, let us add, namely, December 17, on the day of the end of Medvedev's visit, after the signing of all the documents, a “devastating” article appeared on Xinhua. The Russian government was given a clear message: you do not know how to work, you have brought Russia to a dead end, and you are not the ones who will show Russia the way out. The main thing that is being read between the lines in the Chinese article is that the government has brought Russian-Chinese relations to a dead end. Commodity turnover between the PRC and the Russian Federation only in 2015 fell by a third. How can a “world factory”, for which trade in manufactured consumer goods is the meaning and support of life, be happy about it?

After that, someone's cheerful statements about two hundred billion turnover to 2020 look, at best, as an empty promise. In the worst sense - in the words of a leader who lives in a parallel reality.

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  1. Dimy4
    Dimy4 22 December 2015 06: 15
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    As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 December 2015 06: 20
      +5
      Quote: Dimy4
      As for industry and agriculture, right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment has been handed over for scrap, the former workshops of the factories look with empty eye sockets of windows.

      Write to us from the 90s?
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 22 December 2015 06: 33
        33
        But they didn’t go through here, everything I described before my eyes, especially the complete decline in agriculture. And we will have a hiccup with these 90s for a long time
        1. Enot-poloskun
          Enot-poloskun 22 December 2015 07: 40
          69
          China is unhappy. China wanted to profit from the confrontation between Russia and the West.

          China exaggerates the problem. I work in agriculture. Yes, there are a lot of problems. But there is growth. Perceptible.

          In addition, the devaluation of the ruble is a threat to the Chinese "consumer goods". We are increasing the competitiveness of both light industry and other industries.

          I will add. I am an opponent of the Medvedev government. But - I see now the growth points. Growth contrary to government policies.

          Break through! And China ... Let it consider its losses.
          1. rfnthtirf
            rfnthtirf 22 December 2015 09: 47
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            I work in the field of light industry. in two places. the mistress-girls opened the workshops. the direction is different - children's clothes and fashion for full women. childhood works 8 years, for women 4 years. previously both traveled to China. Now both housewives are glad that they do not depend on the road or on the questionable quality of the goods. plus jobs. in the workshop for 10 people, plus in office 3. Of course, Asians will howl ...
            1. asadov
              asadov 22 December 2015 14: 28
              +6
              This, I agree, is a good example. I will add from myself. Even more people with hands and not managers, lawyers, economists or, more simply, "office plankton". And the most important thing is that the state does not interfere with the development of small business.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 10
                +1
                The main thing is that this state be revived.
              2. Black Colonel
                Black Colonel 23 December 2015 11: 25
                0
                "... more people with hands and not managers, lawyers, economists ..."
                Depends on the economic policy of the state and the motivation of the professions.
          2. nils
            nils 22 December 2015 10: 03
            +6
            Quote: Enot-poloskun
            Break through!


            But will it work in this coordinate system?

            - “When we introduced the poison of liberalism into the state organism, its entire political constitution changed: states fell ill with a fatal disease - blood decomposition. It remains to await the end of their agony. Constitutional states were born from liberalism ... and the constitution, as you well know, is nothing more than the school of discord, discord, disputes, disagreements, fruitless party agitation - in a word, the school of everything that depersonalizes the activities of the state. The parliamentary tribune, no worse than the press, sentenced governments to inaction and powerlessness ... Then we replaced the government with a caricature of the president taken from the crowd , from among our creatures ...

            - We created crazy, dirty, disgusting literature. We touched on education and upbringing, as the cornerstones of social life. We fooled, stupefied and corrupted youth ...

            - We are cunning, dexterous and own money. We need large political publications - newspapers that form public opinion, street literature and the stage. In this way, we will step by step supplant Christianity and dictate to the world what it must believe, respect, curse. With the press in our hands, we can turn the wrong into the right, the dishonorable into the honest. We can deal the first blow to that, to this day, still sacred institution - the family principle, which must be brought to decay. We will then be able to uproot the belief that we have been awed to this day ... and in return to bring up an army of enthusiastic passions ....

            Conclusions Each reasonable person will make himself.
          3. Sailor
            Sailor 22 December 2015 15: 33
            +5
            If everything is as you say, God forbid, but the industry is causing concern, in Volgograd the Khimprom went bankrupt, they closed the VZBU, and the aluminum, they break the tractor.
          4. onix757
            onix757 22 December 2015 21: 04
            +1
            [quote = Enot-poloskun] China is not happy. China wanted to profit from the confrontation between Russia and the West.
            [/ Quote]

            So the Russian Federation has made such easy prey that it’s a sin not to profit. Our power, of course, has nothing to do with it. Faithful path are gentlemen.

            [quote = Enot-poloskun] China is not happy. China wanted to profit from the confrontation between Russia and the West.
            [quote] China exaggerates the problems. [/ quote]

            China does not exaggerate anything .. they are generally stupid to us on our problems. It is not their problem that the Russian Federation is an economic dwarf in comparison with them and we have nothing to offer except resources.

            [quote] In addition, the devaluation of the ruble is a threat to Chinese "consumer goods" [/ quote]

            Oh really! Even if our ruby ​​is dropped 2 more times, they will still come out in positive territory. Because products with developed light industry are cheaper in any case. And if it is even more expensive, they will subsidize their exporters, with an eye to what will beat them in the future.

            [quote] I will add. I am an opponent of the Medvedev government. But - I see now the growth points. [/ quote]

            There is no one tandem without the other. Both liberals and both drive the country into the Stone Age. What is one growth point?
        2. Alexy
          Alexy 22 December 2015 14: 46
          -2
          Are you from Ukraine?
        3. midivan
          midivan 23 December 2015 07: 48
          +4
          Quote: Dimy4
          But they didn’t go through here, everything I described before my eyes, especially the complete decline in agriculture. And we will have a hiccup with these 90s for a long time

          maybe it depends on specific farms ??? for example, we don’t have either bushes or a complete decline, if it’s very interesting for anyone to dump the farms in PM, it’s in the Rostov Region on the Don which, in the 90s, also didn’t have bushes, but they waited 3 months for a salary and then not much, seasonal work ( harvesting), then sheep breeding was reduced from 30 thousand to 12 thousand heads, cattle (cattle) were completely eliminated and switched to seed production, they survived, I myself worked on a Zil-130 machine and I carried grain and you can have no doubt about this the moment there are new combines so far 2 pcs, Akros (Rostselmash) 1 pcs and Vector 1 pcs are new acquisitions, 12 pcs Don-1500, Niva something about 15 pcs (the last century, therefore, was not interested in how many of them are exactly), 10 pcs K-700 ( Kirovets), this is, in general, the yield in 90x -22 centners per hectare on average (barley, wheat, rye, millet) now the yield is on average 32-35 centners per hectare and this despite the fact that we are in a risk zone (steppe, heat) , plowing used to go for days. Now at 8-10 o’clock in the evening home, 30 percent of the population’s cars foreign cars (not expensive of course), by the way, Rostselmash, if memory serves, has something about 16 sites in Europe (there should be infa on Wikipedia) and after all this I personally get the idea that it’s not about the crisis and years, but about the desire to work and the economy will be afloat winked wink and the key one was at home a couple of months ago, asking a beer-maker with a friend (he is a foreman-agronomist) -tried to take on development for import substitution of money, so as not to sell grain but a product? I think the answer will open my eyes, why? They sowed, removed and my head does not hurt, there are about 3000 thousand people on the farm, the collective farm
      2. S-kerrigan
        S-kerrigan 22 December 2015 06: 41
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        A bit wrong, I think. Russia is huge and very different. A person can be cunning, while not pouring out a lie: "Here is the field of the sphere-windowed Vasily, it is really empty and technology is rusting." At the same time, it is possible (and necessary to create a heightened effect) to keep silent about the fact that in the neighboring area of ​​another sphero-window Andrey was recently completely repaired.

        * Using the example of also my, now dear, Tomsk: if we go along the highway we see as well abandoned villages with rickety huts, the remains of once people, but now you get drunk. We see wild thickets in the field, and perhaps the old death woman with a scythe is not visible standing in the middle of all this. Or you can go further and see a new beach (in the summer season) or a fresh skating rink (in winter). You can see new cottages (not for "new Russians", but the houses of the once "villagers"). And New dairy farms / cheese factories.
        Therefore, everything is very multifaceted, as in a kaleidoscope.
        At the same time, following the example of the courtyard where I live, I understand that taking a car is very risky - there’s no place to put it stupidly. So people obviously live quite normal. For cars do not stand snowdrops - they are actively driven. In addition, some of the residents for this year alone changed their personal cars - they apparently forgot to tell them about the crisis.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 22 December 2015 07: 06
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          And in Afghanistan and Iraq, too, full of cars. And all the cars! Good to see live! Yes, and I think the goods there are not just cakes. And the goods are probably Western-made!
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 22 December 2015 07: 16
            16
            Quote: Region 34
            And in Afghanistan and Iraq, too, full of cars. And all the cars! Good to see live!

            jeeps "Toyota"! yes good
            1. Alf
              Alf 22 December 2015 22: 10
              +5
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              jeeps "Toyota"!

              With an option in the form of DShK.
              1. Boos
                Boos 23 December 2015 17: 35
                0
                Pickup from Nissan.
        2. 34 region
          34 region 22 December 2015 07: 09
          31
          If in Soviet times, every yard made animal sounds and smells, then today they do not even bark everywhere. I see many village stupidly go to the city to work, and not on the rural field.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 22 December 2015 07: 18
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            Quote: Region 34
            . I see many village stupidly go to the city to work, and not on the rural field.

            and in the regional center, for 150 km, in the regional centers, the same village: no work.
            1. 78bor1973
              78bor1973 22 December 2015 09: 04
              21
              And I recently brought oats from near Samara to Luban, I won’t say that the village was decadent, everyone survives as best as they can, but they don’t teach the Chinese to us wisdom, let them look at their plate, and they have been eating us with Chinese consumer goods for twenty years, here and we don’t buy everything, so they are offended! Overgrown fields can be plowed, but what remains after the Chinese is difficult to call lunar soil!
        3. samuil60
          samuil60 22 December 2015 21: 56
          +3
          For some reason, all people are divided into two categories: bees and flies. The first are looking for where they can "get nectar", want to see their garden clean and beautiful. And they understand that if they drove through the garden with a tank, and then another shot from the flamethrower, then it will not recover quickly. But you have to work, and gradually, albeit not very quickly, the garden will bloom again. The second ones are "flies", they see only dirt everywhere, blaming and condemning everyone (they say, I would fix everything quickly, but they ...). Everything around them is always bad, they do not see the good sides of the environment, constantly pouring out bile and even somewhere at the subconscious level, rejoice in troubles - both their own and their country. There is where to dig! And the Chinese - they are Chinese, and we should not expect anything good from these "children of the Celestial Empire". You just need to do your job. The Medvedevs come and go, but Russia is eternal ...
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 01: 44
            +2
            Quote: samuil60
            The Medvedevs come and go, and Russia-it is eternal ...

            Russia, of course, is eternal, but in Russia the people may end. This is apparently why the authorities are preliminarily making substitution for Asians.
          2. guzik007
            guzik007 23 December 2015 08: 27
            +1
            For some reason, all people are divided into two categories: bees and flies.
            -----------------------------------------------------------
            And for some reason, almost all the bees in the leading places search and find where to proboscis proboscis: =)
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 22 December 2015 07: 15
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Dimy4
        As for industry and agriculture, right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment has been handed over for scrap, the former workshops of the factories look with empty eye sockets of windows.

        Write to us from the 90s?

        and from the 90s, only grass and bushes were thicker than steel ... request
        1. Dewa1s
          Dewa1s 22 December 2015 11: 58
          +6
          Yeah, that’s why Russia exported 2015 million tons of grain in 30.
          Against as much as 1.5 million tons of grain from all over the USSR, which we sold in 1986 laughing
          Although things were better in the 60th, the USSR was able to strain and sell as much as 6.8 million tons — a historical record. This, together with Ukraine, if anything.
          And now Russia alone sells 4 more times than the USSR in record years.
          Grass and shrub, dooo. And also the liquid brains of pro-polymer
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 22 December 2015 13: 04
            14
            Now compare the number of cattle in the RSFSR and Russia. 20,1 million heads in 2015 versus 59,6 in 1986. Here are the extra 30 million tons of grain that the cows ate to provide us with milk. laughing
            1. Dewa1s
              Dewa1s 23 December 2015 08: 00
              +3
              But after all, the release of grain for sale with a decrease in the number of cattle heads is possible only provided that the amount of grain grown remains at the same level. If the fields are overgrown with grass and bushes, as citizens say above, where does the free grain come from?
          2. onix757
            onix757 22 December 2015 21: 12
            +3
            Yeah, that’s why Russia exported 2015 million tons of grain in 30.
            Against as much as 1.5 million tons of grain from all over the USSR, which we sold in 1986 laughing

            And what percentage of food is imported into the Russian Federation? Did not compare the USSR?
            Although things were better in the 60th, the USSR was able to strain and sell as much as 6.8 million tons — a historical record. This, together with Ukraine, if anything.
            The Russian Federation sells grain stupidly because there are practically no cattle. And bread is made to its population from 3-grade flour
            1. Dewa1s
              Dewa1s 23 December 2015 08: 02
              0
              Well, yes, under the USSR, collective farms were even beyond the Arctic Circle.
              The truth about the cost of such radishes, millet and beef for some reason is customary to keep silent, right?
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          4. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 02: 09
            +4
            Quote: Dewa1s
            Yeah, that’s why Russia exported 2015 million tons of grain in 30.
            Against as much as 1.5 million tons of grain from all over the USSR, which we sold in 1986 laughing

            Well done, here you are talking!
            So Vladimir Vladimirovich says that Dmitry Anatolyevich works well and the Central Bank works well, and the owners, pah, presidents of state corporations are working well, and millions of daily wages we can’t reduce them, because .., it wasn’t clear what he said, well, actually we can’t.
            But I believe Vladimir Vladimirovich, I believe and that’s all, since he doesn’t change Dmitry Anatolyevich, it means so.
            But China is not a decree for us, not a decree at all, but Vladimir Vladimirovich knows what he is doing - everything will be right, not all at once, you have to tolerate, I’ve prepared 3 holes in the belt and will tighten it.
            And China-losers, and the dollar will soon collapse and America will collapse, and the geyropa will collapse before our eyes. And the fart will die, we will still touch it and it will die, die with shame.
            And the fact that our fields are overgrown with weeds is a disguise, we still can’t show our power to everyone, it’s too early. Does it work day and night, in vain did they give them money? No wonder! Nano - we harvest all! This is not visible to him now, but he is, Chubais reports that he is. And the fact that we are investing money in foreign papers is a secret move so that the raccoon collapses faster.
            But you can’t talk about it now, you just can’t.
            It is necessary to suffer a little more, 10 or 20 years, and then everything will be possible, because the oil will run out.
            and to China, pah, and grind.
            PS. The most important thing is that we and all of us do not have the TV turned off, but how can we rejoice at achievements without a TV set?
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 23 December 2015 02: 14
              +4
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              how can we rejoice at achievements without a TV set?

              This is definitely not to see either Dom-2 or Russia-24 ..
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 02: 21
                +4
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                This is definitely not to see either Dom-2 or Russia-24 ..

                I love the news most of all, the nightingale, Kiselev, Melechino-Svanidzyanov and the 15-year-old television series about prominent political figures.
                Santa Barbata has a rest and smokes and I won’t go there, although I know everyone there, I announced anti-sanctions to them. wassat
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 23 December 2015 02: 24
                  +3
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  I announced anti-sanctions to them.

                  I also announced the United States-they bastards did not give me a visa ..
                  Now how I. Kobzon became .. laughing I think to start singing ..
                  1. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 02: 33
                    0
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    I also announced the United States-they bastards did not give me a visa ..

                    how so request
                    You're the best demoman bully grandmother completely flew off the coils, or what? Who now will destroy their economist?
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    now how I. Kobzon became.

                    Also a deputy? wink
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    I think to start singing ..

                    Thinking of going through the Pyatnitsky Choir? Head, however! yes good drinks
                    You can still with ballet, but ....., I think in tights constantly not very ... what
                    and try it through the NHL.
                    1. afdjhbn67
                      afdjhbn67 23 December 2015 02: 36
                      +3
                      Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                      Thinking of going through the Pyatnitsky Choir? Head, however!

                      Nope, through the choir named after Alexandrov ..
                      and try it through the NHL.

                      With ballet, my color is not the same ..
                      It’s better to cross the Mexican border, infiltrate ..
                      1. PHANTOM-AS
                        PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 02: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Nope, through the choir named after Alexandrov ..

                        There is still a dance needed belay then exactly through the NHL
        2. mira.36
          mira.36 22 December 2015 18: 20
          0
          Everyone sees what he wants ...
        3. Dimy4
          Dimy4 22 December 2015 21: 25
          +2
          and from the 90s, only grass and bushes became thicker ..

          Already not only grass and bushes, for example, where flax was previously grown, undergrowth from small fir-trees and birches has already grown.
      4. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 December 2015 07: 17
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Write to us from the 90s?

        And when you will be in transit in Ulan-Ud, get off and look at all the sights, both agricultural and industrial.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 04
          +3
          In part of Russia, they are engaged in agriculture, but on the other, in some places they build factories and plants, and somewhere else - Russia is a big country.
          1. Dewa1s
            Dewa1s 22 December 2015 12: 10
            +6
            under the USSR, in Norilsk, the land was plowed and there was a collective farm.
            In Norilsk fuck! Then drive a shovel into the ground - you’ll run into permafrost.
            With the collapse of the USSR, this crap was stopped, because it turned out that it was more profitable to bring food from the south.
            But they invested loot in farming in the south and now the very Krasnodar Territory is breaking all records for grain.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 December 2015 12: 32
              0
              It makes no sense to compare the Russian market economy with the planned Soviet Union — completely different things.
      5. Windy
        Windy 22 December 2015 07: 23
        14
        Indeed, a picture from the 90s. In fact, on-site workshops of factories are now warehouses of shopping centers and offices)))
      6. Vladimir.z.
        Vladimir.z. 22 December 2015 08: 22
        23
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        Write to us from the 90s?


        Yes, dear, Dimy4 is very right .... a little further from Moscow and you are no longer that in the 90s you were already in the 19th or at the beginning of the 20th century because in some places even the walls of the buildings of workshops and factories not left ....
        1. 97110
          97110 22 December 2015 09: 34
          21
          Quote: Vladimir.z.
          a little further from Moscow and you are no longer that in the 90s you are already in the 19th or at the beginning of the 20th century

          I am a hereditary river. Great-grandfather, grandfathers, father - all either the crew, or at ship repair and shipbuilding. What feats of labor they performed! Rafts, non-metallic in tens of millions of tons, were mined, transported, and stored ashore. Where is all this? How does the country now manage without this heap of drifts and sand? Where did the entire inland fleet go? And the money was counted. It is not profitable for the owner to use cheap railway and river transport. He will "waste" money, he will be lucky for the car. And on the rivers such as Vychegda and Seversky Donets, only activities financed from the budget remain. These are railway workers with their dredging, locks and furnishings. And the guard at the waterworks, dying of boredom. So are many factory buildings looking out at the new world with empty eye sockets. I'm not saying I like it. But also to carry sand from the Marquis puddle to Rostov for ton-kilometers ... The main problem of our democratic reality - why are we fussing? Lenin, Stalin had an idea that shook the world, made people work not for fear. What's behind the LADIES? What to show your Chinese comrades? How did the LADY receive their leader in their city? Creative neighbors throw glasses at least. Our elite no longer does this. To work better than the Chinese, to count cents per dollar better than the Americans? Russia must put forward its own slogan. To kill the ideology of Western cannibals and ISIS. We will not pull on naked patriotism.
      7. NordUral
        NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 07
        +1
        http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/new/?page=1 - это из сегодня. Можно было бы порадоваться, но, почему-то, грустно. С такими темпами не видать нам будущего. Особенно в свете развития ситуации в мире.
    2. Jarilo
      Jarilo 22 December 2015 06: 54
      13
      Large network companies have captured the market. To break into the consumer is now very difficult and expensive. Most networkers work as large manufacturers who can provide stable supplies and low product prices. Mostly supplies came from abroad, so everything has grown up with us, and now import has risen in price, there is a chance for our manufacturer to win a place in the sun.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 December 2015 07: 13
        +7
        Large agricultural companies will conquer the markets. Both chain stores and network manufacturers will be. Low cost can give only large farms. Therefore, a new collectivization will be on anyone. Today it is easier. Many empty land can simply be bought.
      2. max702
        max702 22 December 2015 13: 50
        +3
        Quote: Jarilo
        Large network companies have captured the market. Making it to the consumer is now very difficult and expensive.

        And you still ask WHO are the owners of these large networks, and not nominally, but in reality, dig deeper .. And everything will fall into place .. The control package of these enterprises always belongs to "partners" from abroad .. Accordingly, they think and care will be?
    3. nemec55
      nemec55 22 December 2015 07: 16
      10
      As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.

      laughing They made laugh, we have already plowed up to the very houses the cows graze there is no place and you are talking about fields with shrubs. laughing Everything is pretty simple, just where it is not profitable there and they don’t sow. It was sown during the Soviet era, everyone will sow it (the crop will be harvested or not, the main plan) And now the farmer will not lose.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 22 December 2015 07: 23
        +4
        Do not talk about the losses of farmers. Many who took loans or went broke or went broke committed suicide. So in this regard, not a very rosy picture.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 09
          +1
          If loans are taken for seed and fuel, then their farms are unprofitable.
      2. fraer
        fraer 22 December 2015 07: 27
        16
        Yes, in general, all these statements and actions converge to one.
        We have a huge working people, you have vast territories.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 22 December 2015 09: 41
          +7
          We have a huge working people, you have vast territories

          We have NO working territory, but no people. In China, I agree with their 2 billionth population. You can find hard workers, and our half of the population are officials and the like half are divided into ten sections where most of the schoolchildren and pensioners go after them, our fucking comrades 10 to sell for 100 the rest of the population is hunchbacked for this whole shobla
          1. sssla
            sssla 22 December 2015 09: 56
            0
            Quote: nemec55
            We have NO working people, but no territories

            The man wrote about
            hardworking people
            These are two differences! Working and working !! Read carefully or for exams !!
            1. fraer
              fraer 22 December 2015 10: 24
              +2
              Quote: sssla
              ! Working and working !!

              Nda what Great and powerful Russian language. It is worth changing one letter and the meaning of what is said is changing.
              1. sssla
                sssla 22 December 2015 19: 10
                0
                Quote: fraer
                It costs one letter

                Rather, remove one and change another!
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 December 2015 07: 30
        12
        Quote: nemec55
        In Soviet times, everyone was undermining it (there will be a crop or not, the main plan is not important) And now the farmer will not lose.

        You are probably lucky with the leader of your region, since you have taken, for example, during the reign of the USSR, Take at least our Buryatia, a subsidized region, farming is risky, as a result of which farming is not developed, because the farmer will not get the irrigation system, then the state needs to scratch its turnips, since it wants to develop Siberia and the Far East, but for now, in fact, about development, it’s just a foolishness. But the forest is knocked down for flight, and a round rod to China. It is apparently not profitable to organize deep processing on the spot.
        In the past, the farm was developed here, and the processing facilities were, Tonkosukonka, Timber Processing Plant, Poultry Factory, we destroyed everything and safely buy it in China, as farmers and entrepreneurs are not profitable. And why is it not profitable to know? Because our business is focused on making a profit now and right away (for a year). Wild Russian capitalism in action.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 22 December 2015 09: 11
          +2
          Take, for example, our Buryatia, a subsidized region, risky agriculture

          You yourself answered RISKY AGRICULTURE tobish nafig it is needed your agriculture graze cattle (rude but true)
          1. Russiamoy
            Russiamoy 22 December 2015 10: 04
            +4
            but in Israel is not risky? why they have everything profitable and we do not. why the government does not itch, where is the support of the villagers? here the leadership thinks as if only to strain less, so we have what we have. and we don’t have to talk about reports to the Center of local proteges in the regions (the times of the USSR are resting). when we in Astrakhan said that they collected 1 ml of tons of watermelons caused bewilderment, as in the subject. and so in everything. but this is a separate big conversation.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 22 December 2015 12: 47
              +1
              here and the leadership thinks how- just to strain less

              Fucking on the head. Prally wrote THINK that they THINK
          2. Sirocco
            Sirocco 22 December 2015 10: 24
            +6
            Quote: nemec55
            You yourself answered RISKY AGRICULTURE tobish nafig it is needed your agriculture graze cattle (rude but true)

            Answered you
            Quote: Russiamoya
            but in Israel is not risky? why they have everything profitable and we do not.

            I want to answer the same.
            You probably didn't read the post above carefully, it was all there, and everything was grown. People were busy, corn, sunflowers, a lot went to the "green" silage, but their own, not like now, all the feed in bags and from abroad. Well, not profitable for our capitalists.
            The same situation is with cattle. The meat-processing plant buys carcasses in Mongolia, where it is profitable in the steppes, and in Buryatia it is not profitable. Why?
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 22 December 2015 11: 08
              +3
              Quote: Sirocco
              and in Buryatia is not profitable. Why?

              Because they sit and cheer on pl. Councils - pouring from empty to empty ... in anticipation of another handout from the center, and the whole "village" at this time settled around the city, there is no one to work in the steppes and forests ..
            2. nemec55
              nemec55 22 December 2015 12: 51
              0
              and in Buryatia is not profitable. Why?

              I answer our population of 143 or 144 mouleins enough to sow Krasnodar figuratively of course but true In the USSR we fed half the world and now a quarter
          3. Goga101
            Goga101 22 December 2015 12: 33
            +6
            nemec55 - "AGRICULTURAL RISK tobish nafig it needs your farming graze cattle ..." - and livestock without farming can be fed - eh? To arrange for the export of fools somewhere, then there would be fewer such comments (rude, but true).
            I am from Buryatia - a fellow countryman, Sirocco, writes the absolute truth - the factories are all in ruins (except for the aviation - defense industry, nevertheless) C \ X on the side, fields in the bush, on the way to Kyakhta (to Mongolia) hundreds of hectares of abandoned fields ... Are we all "unprofitable"? Or maybe this government is "not profitable"? More precisely "profitable", but not for us angry
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 22 December 2015 12: 59
              +1
              Hello, I’m from Omsk, the north of the Omsk region has grown, the south has nowhere to drive the chicken out. You see, if I don’t like my village sitting without work, it doesn’t mean that someone is to blame, you just think and you won’t get it out of thin air. The whole collective farm in the USSR worked in the field since the tractor fleet from MTZ YuMZ K700 and so on was about 40 pieces and now three Americans JOHN DEER came in and sowed everything. And where to get this work ???? Imagine yourself a farmer, what are you going to hire hard workers so that they just sat and give the profit to them in the sn ???
            2. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 23 December 2015 01: 02
              +2
              Quote: Goga101
              I am from Buryatia - a fellow countryman, Sirocco, writes the absolute truth - the factories are all in ruins (except for the aviation - defense industry, nevertheless) C \ X on the side, fields in the bush, on the way to Kyakhta (to Mongolia) hundreds of hectares of abandoned fields ... Are we all "unprofitable"? Or maybe this government is "not profitable"? More precisely "profitable", but not for us

              Everything that you described is characteristic of the whole country.
              And "not profitable" we are, indeed, ALL within the vast country.
              And the "profitable" ones in the Kremlin, in the ministries, and in Rosneft and State Industry Ministry they are in command. They are "profitable", their wives are "profitable", and their offspring are completely "profitable-talented".
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 22 December 2015 10: 33
          +3
          Quote: Sirocco
          . But the forest is knocked down for flight, and a round rod to China. It is apparently not profitable to organize deep processing on the spot.

          "Round timber" has not been transported for the third year already, all there is a board and a "Chinese bar" .. even local sawmills in the city have a problem to buy round timber, it is not profitable to carry from the villages ..
          And the rest I agree with you
          1. Goga101
            Goga101 22 December 2015 12: 36
            +4
            afdjhbn67 - "Round timber" has not been brought for the third year already "- ah, it's not true, every day I go through the crossing at" Yuzhlag "- a lot of round timber is being brought along TransSib, maybe not from us, but a lot ...
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 22 December 2015 12: 51
              +1
              Quote: Goga101
              "Round timber" has not been carried for the third year already "

              Goga, they don’t take them to China - mothers do not worry about fines .. part of the train to the east goes to deeper processing for export to Japan, Korea ..
              One time close to this topic was ..
              1. Goga101
                Goga101 22 December 2015 16: 04
                +1
                afdjhbn67 - But it’s quite possible I won’t argue - it’s not my topic, I just see cars every day ... fellow
          2. Sirocco
            Sirocco 22 December 2015 14: 29
            +2
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            "Round timber" has not been transported for the third year already, all there is a board and a "Chinese bar"

            Nikolay, at my work, the windows overlook the railway, I see constantly what they are taking and where.
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            for deeper processing for export to Japan, Korea ..

            For me, it doesn’t matter to China, Korea, or Japan. The fact that the round rod is annoying. There is a law banning the export of round timber (if I’m not mistaken), and they continue to forest.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 22 December 2015 14: 54
              +2
              Quote: Sirocco
              and the forest continues to weave.

              Volodya, and in addition to the forest and water from Baikal, especially in Prom. scale and shove nothing, especially for small and medium-sized businesses ...
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco 22 December 2015 15: 32
                +2
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Volodya, and in addition to the forest and water from Baikal, especially in Prom. scale and shove nothing, especially for small and medium-sized businesses ...

                And what about deep processing, to establish production at home, and send part of the finished product.
                I'm afraid our chapter does not have such a goal.
                1. Goga101
                  Goga101 22 December 2015 16: 09
                  +6
                  Sirocco - our "head" - a temporary worker, maybe he is not the worst option for the Republic, but the fact that he will not be engaged in the development of his own production and especially small business is quite obvious.
                  Even food enterprises, such as "Makbur" and "Amta" and those flew into the pipe ... but what food - vodka in Buryatia is not profitable to produce (BaikalFarm - bakrot) !!! How much did they manage ... fool
                2. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 22 December 2015 16: 21
                  +3
                  Quote: Sirocco
                  I'm afraid our chapter does not have such a goal.

                  The chapter has nothing to do with it - the general tendency in the economy is an example of "Polistroydetal" -deep, up to the production of furniture, processing, but there is no sense in raw materials (the Chinese give a higher price) and after all sales kill - there is no real market .. a vicious circle
                  PS Dumnova finally removed - Sangadiev will be - sensible people .. unlike this young lady-peasant ..
      4. Goga101
        Goga101 22 December 2015 12: 16
        +4
        nemec55- and in our country 90% of the land is "not profitable" to plow, somewhere in Brazil it is more profitable ... however, under the USSR - "... they plowed everything underneath ..." and we were the second economy in the world, but where are we - and? It is not profitable to build factories here either, so you can see that almost all of them were destroyed, in the literal sense of the word, to the foundations ... The Chinese wrote the truth - our "Gaidarists" drove the economy into a stupor back in 2013, with oil at $ 100 and without any "sanctions" and at the same time everyone remained at their posts - to continue their dirty work recourse
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    5. region58
      region58 22 December 2015 07: 44
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.

      And here is another translation of the same article: http://russian.news.cn/2015-12/18/c_134931336.htm
      And the meaning there is completely different.
    6. Atrix
      Atrix 22 December 2015 08: 58
      +6
      Well, what did you want, in 15 years, how many large projects have been implemented, the 1-2 plant was built ??? Of course it’s easier to pump oil and gas and build pipelines, but how to lay a cable for the energy bridge so there is no cable, you need to buy in China. Of course, in the eyes of China, Russia is in decline, that in addition to gas and oil and minerals, Russia can offer China, but they’re still buying defense equipment, and we don’t produce machines anymore, we don’t produce computers, we don’t hear any new scientific developments.
      The trouble of Russia is in its wealth, no one wants to move booty while there are these treasures of Russia while money flows into their own hands. It would be like in Japan where there is nothing and people live and develop not at the expense of their natural resources.
      1. shonsu
        shonsu 22 December 2015 09: 49
        +3
        for the sake of a couple of hundred kilometers of cable for an energy bridge in the Crimea, it is not worth building a plant and mastering production. if there are one or two such plants in the world, then that's enough for everyone.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 15
        -1
        For 15 years, several thousand factories and factories of medium and large opened and sow the day open - who needs to be engaged.
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    7. Cron1982
      Cron1982 22 December 2015 08: 59
      -3
      So pick up agricultural crops, sow the fields. The master must come and do everything? Putin should come and sow the field?
      1. Atrix
        Atrix 22 December 2015 09: 17
        +8
        Quote: Cron1982
        So pick up agricultural crops, sow the fields.

        Only now when you sow and go mow and sell, I will see what your desire to develop agricultural
        1. Jarilo
          Jarilo 22 December 2015 14: 48
          +3
          There is not only a property tax, but also a major overhaul.
      2. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 22 December 2015 10: 13
        +4
        and the task of the leadership of the country and the government is to create favorable conditions, support and programs for rural workers, why Europe does not know where to put its agricultural products and sets a limit, we have a shortage in our territory - miracles.
      3. Goga101
        Goga101 22 December 2015 12: 45
        +5
        Cron1982 - studied arithmetic? Calculate how much you need to invest in agricultural production at current prices for fuel and electricity, and then figure out what you get at the output - not just sowing, you won’t want to look at these fields.
        And the GDP does not have to come to the field, it is not its job - its job, it is to create such conditions that we need to go out into the field ....
        Neighbors, Mongolia - nature is the same, people seem to be the same, but the conditions for business and production are completely different, now the Mongols have reached us - they are shipped to shops (the ruble fell), and ours reached Mongolia, there business and production are not choking as we have ...
    8. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 22 December 2015 10: 19
      +2
      Yes, this government has already been persuaded by the programs of the pro-Kremlin Solovyov? .. How many times have they said that it is time to leave? ..
      But who will refuse the feeder?
    9. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 December 2015 12: 10
      +1
      Kuban and Don are still developing with agriculture. Fields are fine. Crops have stepped over Soviet indicators. How in the middle lane? Who is in the know?
    10. mira.36
      mira.36 22 December 2015 18: 38
      -2
      And you didn’t work on harvesting potatoes at the institute until November? I don’t want my children to live like this, where everything was plowed up and emptiness in the shops. Where the plants worked and didn’t produce. And Chinese junk from rags to electronics for 3 days trade is full. Do you need it? I don’t. The Chinese know how to work, yes. They survive in their anthill. Those who want to live well with us do not sit idle either. There are structural excesses, but these are our business.
    11. RDX
      RDX 23 December 2015 12: 18
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.


      I don’t know where you see it now, but in the center, a clear rise in the agricultural sector
    12. sinoptic
      sinoptic 23 December 2015 17: 54
      0
      We must thank the Chinese for their honesty and honesty!
      Maybe even Putin will listen to them and replace Medvedev.

      As long as the fools Medvedev is in control, there will be "naebulins" and the like in our government.
  2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 22 December 2015 06: 29
    +5
    It was necessary to subjugate the Medvelev Chinese, they must have sent him to China so that a person who does not have his voice and political will could lead negotiations.
  3. apro
    apro 22 December 2015 06: 32
    +6
    The Chinese are realists and programmers, Russia is a junior partner today due to limited sovereignty, and how does the PRC build relations with Russia? On the basis of what? Does the PRC have an ideology for Russia, the PRC has a strict state plan for Russia, does the PRC have a foreign policy Russia is only responding to external threats.
  4. kagorta
    kagorta 22 December 2015 06: 32
    0
    http://fritzmorgen.livejournal.com/
    In the top of the blog, just the article of December 21 about this fake. A model of information war against us.
    1. region58
      region58 22 December 2015 07: 50
      +5
      Quote: kagorta
      http://fritzmorgen.livejournal.com/

      Let me insert a quote from there for illustration purposes:
      What exactly do they say about us on the website of the Xinhua News Agency, the official news agency of the PRC government?

      The title of the article did not state at all that Russia was allegedly at an impasse, but a completely correct question - “can Russia pass the test of strength against the backdrop of a difficult crisis?”

      Further, the article lists the numerous problems that Russia now faces in the opinion of its Chinese comrades - sanctions of Western countries, a decline in oil prices, the resumption of confrontation with the United States, the threat of a drop in GDP, de-industrialization of the economy, a decline in agriculture, the devaluation of the ruble and so on.

      Also, the author of an article on the Xinhua News Agency website indicates that the Russian government has made great efforts to rectify the situation, and that the result is already visible - for example, the peak in debt payments has already been reached, and the Mudis agency has recently changed its forecast for Russian government bonds from “negative” to "stable".

      And more:
      Thus, relying on their own strengths and intelligence, as well as on effective cooperation with other countries, Russians are able to overcome the existing difficult crisis.
  5. Alexdark
    Alexdark 22 December 2015 06: 35
    22
    This is not criticism from the Chinese, but advice. Like, open your eyes, not all the same to trade gas.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 22 December 2015 09: 30
      +4
      laughing Your thoughts are good, but they don’t agree with the plans of our wallets (governments) We are doomed to feed someone forever (Europe America, etc.) Not in terms of free grubs, but in terms of living according to their financial laws and paying bribes for using all kinds of bond loans, etc. .d If we live or try to live well better than Europe, then we will have eternal 41 years
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 21
      -2
      This year, our sales of non-primary products abroad have overtaken the export of oil, gas, wood and other minerals by 20 billion.
  6. rassel0889
    rassel0889 22 December 2015 06: 59
    +7
    Quote: Dimy4
    As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.

    Here in Chelyabinsk, we have everything as you say, only now empty workshops at the Mechel plant have been demolished systematically for a long time, new ones are being built on site, for example, the same Chinese have built a rail and beam workshop, 30m length of rails, if I am not mistaken, for high-speed highways of the future "New Silk ways ". I will say yes about the fields, they are almost 100 percent sown with grasses and fodder for livestock (which is also, by the way, not very bad), and instead of fields, an agricultural complex was built here in Churilovo, whose products are already supplied to neighboring regions at quite affordable prices in winter and summer ... you are comparing how it was then in the USSR and how it is now in Russia, without even remembering that the fields were sown, but for some reason there was no food, but now food is falling from the shelves, but of course! This is the main thing, the fields are more important?
    1. 34 region
      34 region 22 December 2015 07: 19
      -1
      And today there are some new products that were not in the Union? New pasta, rice, potatoes ... What's new? What do the Chinese do for you? You yourself are not able to work? Someone owes us everything! Invest, build, grow. Are we doing something purely ourselves?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 24
        +1
        Cooperation will always be present in a market economy.
      2. Dewa1s
        Dewa1s 22 December 2015 12: 19
        +2
        go and build a plant, or you can’t work yourself?
    2. Goga101
      Goga101 22 December 2015 13: 01
      +4
      rassel0889 - Colleague, I was born, raised and studied in Chelyabinsk and sincerely happy for the successes of my homeland good
      As for the "empty shelves" in the USSR and "abundance" now - everything is simple, look at the per capita consumption figures - now "we" eat meat half as much as in the USSR, fish and milk 2,5 times less .. for that they began to eat many times more pasta, bread and potatoes, that is, the structure of our nutrition has noticeably deteriorated hi
      1. rassel0889
        rassel0889 28 December 2015 11: 39
        0
        Yeah)))) the structure of the kapets suffers, McDonald's, sub-way, etc. etc.)) go to the nearest shopping center, whole floors with fast food !!! Well, how can you pass by) and the people .... everyone is suffering, crying for our economy, discussing empty fields, for another portion of delicious, food, at fairly high prices, but the fields aren’t easier ... they’re alone somewhere abandoned, overgrown with weeds ... brr .. violent fantasy. In the case, whoever doesn’t like empty fields, go plant and grow yourself, and not nod to others. Empty workshops, go build, and not nod to others. And you can’t build or plant, hire someone who can for the money. Although the Chinese, even the Japanese, but here to sit and fuck *** here on the forum, like all worthless.
  7. heal
    heal 22 December 2015 07: 08
    10
    By the way, there are no inaccuracies in the Xinhua material. Who will say that Russia's budget is not dependent on oil? Yes, the Ministry of Finance itself will not say this. Who is ready to announce that the price of oil does not affect the Russian economy? It will not even occur to the Ministry of Economic Development. Who will refute the current ruble exchange rate against the euro and the dollar? Yes, there is no one to refute, the ruble falls almost every day. And foreign loans turned out to be incredibly expensive for Russian enterprises. And without loans over the hill, we have long been unable to. No one dares to declare a sudden increase in investment from abroad and the lifting of Western sanctions. Deindustrialization of the economy is also not news. Even other military plants, as it turns out, do not live with us, but survive. Apparently, they are inspired by Kremlin propaganda.

    But the damned Obama is to blame for everything, Putin has nothing to do with it.
  8. timyr
    timyr 22 December 2015 07: 21
    +8
    Our government and Nazarbayev announced, again the privatization of state-owned companies, as a means of combating the crisis, they are ineffective, we need an effective owner. Well, they will sell the money, they will eat it, and then they don’t know how to get out of the crisis, silence. Idiocy is not treated.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 22 December 2015 07: 41
      +9
      They will sell the company. The new investor will ditch this enterprise (competitors are not needed). Eventually. There are no enterprises. There are no incomes. There is poverty and destruction. I do not believe in these investors and new effective owners.
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  10. parusnik
    parusnik 22 December 2015 07: 32
    +6
    “Exactly so,” he answered. “Not Russia is being deducted from the accounts as a whole, but the Medvedev government”..Chinese partners, subtly hinted at thick circumstances ..
  11. kabnb
    kabnb 22 December 2015 07: 43
    -6
    "and we have rockets, we ask you to take this into account" (from the song)
  12. vadgen
    vadgen 22 December 2015 08: 09
    +6
    I’ll try to explain. China vitally needs economic growth, and in this regard, it sees us as a market. But time goes on, and the economic expansion of the Celestial Empire is trampling on our market in one place. Moreover, due to the depreciation of the ruble, Chinese goods are becoming expensive and they become in our market less. The question is whether it is because of this to scold the government and sprinkle ashes on my head? I think not. Moreover, China has enormous investment opportunities, give them free rein, in a couple of years, quite legally, in our Far East there will be little left. Therefore, I approve the government’s policy of containing Chinese economic expansion as a Far East. Joint projects need point and very well-calculated.
    1. xBoris
      xBoris 22 December 2015 08: 52
      +4
      .. don't argue about joint ventures. However, in 2007 I was on the border with China in the area of ​​Lake Hassan. I was on the very hill with which Korea is visible, and directly down, towards Korea, to the river, lies Chinese territory - so, down there, an excellent asphalt road was laid. Then I deliberately climbed into the cards and looked - so this road is laid along the whole !! our entire border with China! They just work in China and ask for the allocated money, but we don’t. What is happening in our country, how income is distributed at enterprises .. How and what is taxed, how do they collect these taxes (from whom), how does the judiciary work, what is elevated to the highest goal .. ?? What is going on with medicine, how it is built, and for what purpose, the higher education system basically works - evaluate it and understand that the government is really not coping with the situation.
  13. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 22 December 2015 08: 14
    -3
    Russia takes 3-4 place in grain export, when did this happen? What we need is for all the fields to be sown, or for our products to be on the table and exported.
    1. Stauffenberg
      Stauffenberg 22 December 2015 09: 14
      +1
      It's funny, let those who are nostalgic for the smoking chimneys of factories remember how they were choking in queues for blue chickens, how they were "thrown out" of sausages or sausages. How they burned fires near furniture stores, wrote numbers on their hands ... and there were a lot of things. Everything is forgotten, the main thing is to smoke and puff.

      Everything must be approached reasonably and prudently.
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 22 December 2015 09: 46
        -2
        Everything must be approached reasonably and prudently.

        Adequate appeared drinks hi
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 21
        +1
        The funny thing is not to repeat the lies of the liberals over and over again. It was they, the liberal scum at the top of the USSR in the second half of the 80s, who did what you write about with the Union. I am old enough to know and understand this now. Then, I confess, I did not understand this, like most of the Soviet people. They treated us very competently, and not the States at all, but our treacherous elite, both in Moscow and in the capitals of the republics. But after more than a quarter of a century it is already possible to understand this.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 22 December 2015 11: 59
      +5
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      Russia takes 3-4 place in grain export, when did this happen? What we need is for all the fields to be sown, or for our products to be on the table and exported.

      Yeah, and foreign farmers are surprised why Russia drives grain for export, and then purchases meat around the world.
      1. Stauffenberg
        Stauffenberg 22 December 2015 14: 46
        +2
        We provide ourselves for the bird. For the pig, the situation is also getting better. The beef is worse. Probably we need the "Power of the Cow" program.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 22
          0
          We need the program "The power of the mind to the brains in power".
  14. vobels
    vobels 22 December 2015 08: 18
    +4
    The Chinese are very cautious and cunning, they will never tell the truth directly. Offers have a deep meaning and a distant future. There is, of course, some truth to which we and the government should think about what to correct. In general, informative.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 24
      +1
      We are not to please. The Chinese praise - something is wrong, but scold - not at all. Or maybe go to the mirror, and then go to the window and look around your home country. So we will live that the king is one of a fairy tale.
  15. Gray 43
    Gray 43 22 December 2015 08: 22
    +3
    In principle, the author is right in many respects - we also have regions that, with all their wealth, in fact barely survive, where the leadership is only "for furniture", but they suit Moscow, but what about the population? Leave? One cannot even criticize anyone otherwise they will hang the stigma of "Bandera," "Maidanist," and so on. Patriotism is a necessary concept, but not to fanaticism, something needs to be changed in the government, the current one is farther than Moscow, the campaign, does not see. I am glad for those in whose regions the heads are really working on development, the rest prefer to whine about the lack of money. We have everything you need, the most important thing is people and they want to work, if you use this resource wisely, then no crisis is terrible
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 22 December 2015 19: 05
      0
      Leave for a new region. So the Americans do. No one lives in Detroit.
  16. xBoris
    xBoris 22 December 2015 08: 44
    +6
    All right, the Chinese write. In our own skin we feel like she, life is getting worse ...
    But after the Great Patriotic War - prices were reduced every year ... How then did they live ..? !! Who controlled the country's economy? It looked like there were specialists .. And now - .. managers .. = (
  17. Belousov
    Belousov 22 December 2015 08: 46
    +5
    The most annoying thing is that even the Chinese have nothing to object to. Take the Samara region. Our Mordovian governor recently joyfully reported to Putin about the idea of ​​transferring everyone to domestic cars again. The truth is only officials of the lower and middle rank, somehow forgotten about their beloved. I also forgot to say that investment in the agricultural sector for the year decreased by 25%. But the ratings of EP are growing, which means you can not repair roads, not catch criminals, continue to cut the budget and kill local businesses in favor of their native Mordovians. Such are the things ...
  18. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 22 December 2015 08: 47
    12
    Even the Chinese see and understand what kind of characters we have in the government.
    It is shameful and embarrassing how these figures systematically led the country to collapse.
    Here the 90s were mentioned above - so they did not end, by and large. The rate of looting and plundering of the public domain has changed somewhat - yes, but no one has canceled the general trend. Capital is also actively continuing to flow out of the country ...

    Naturally, we will not be able to compete with the Chinese and other countries in consumer goods, and many other industries. The cost of any product in Russia is much higher than in other countries. This is a fact and you won’t get away from it. Coldly.
    But, firstly, we have the south and the Caucasus - the climate there is quite favorable for the creation of industries. But what to talk about? We do not even have any tourist infrastructure there, except for the rest from the USSR. (Sochi is not taken into account). Take for example Kabardino-Balkaria, people want to live there, because and the climate and everything else is so beautiful. However, there is no work - therefore, reluctantly, they leave.
    Secondly, who is stopping us from filling up the whole world with IT masterpieces? We could trade the best operating systems in the world and the best system and application software in the world. And change it to tangerines, not oil. There are no more nations capable of mathematics than Russian people, Slavs, on the planet, and there are hardly any codes. Thirdly, weapons. If it turns out, why not focus on this? and change submarines for something that doesn’t grow with us or for us to produce a bollard. I generally am silent about agricultural land. Overwhelming the whole world with cereals and potatoes is not a problem. And environmentally friendly! To emphasize this. Buying grub abroad is the height of madness, IDIOTISM, betrayal, arrogance and ... I can’t even find the words of the literary.
    I would have such "buyers" without trial and investigation to hard labor.
    I don’t want to talk about education - the country is deliberately debilitated!. A dumb herd is more capable of being managed. And why should rams be treated? Health care is also in the furnace! ...
    After Putin’s speech, he understood one thing: the universal oppa is still waiting for us around the corner, and we are not ready for it - neither physically nor morally. Without a national idea, a nation is a herd of sheep, which we are essentially all of. And the world still shamelessly rules the loot ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 31
      -4
      Well, we’ll change the government to a new one — only this will not change anything, the money itself in the regions and the treasury will not appear.
      1. Belousov
        Belousov 22 December 2015 18: 31
        -1
        Then all the more to drive these parasites in the neck if nothing depends on them !!! Drive to the neck and change the whole system. It is imperative to introduce the principle of personal responsibility of each (!!!) leader / official / deputy / prosecutor, etc. in its place.
      2. Belousov
        Belousov 22 December 2015 18: 31
        +1
        Then all the more to drive these parasites in the neck if nothing depends on them !!! Drive to the neck and change the whole system. It is imperative to introduce the principle of personal responsibility of each (!!!) leader / official / deputy / prosecutor, etc. in its place.
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 23 December 2015 00: 27
        +2
        It is necessary to change the social system to that which is for the people, and not for thieves-oligarchs and thieves-officials.
        Socialism or state capitalism with social guarantees to the people. And a planned economy. Then everything will work and we will not give a damn about the price of oil and gas, the dollar or euro.
  19. igorra
    igorra 22 December 2015 08: 48
    -1
    China, like the United States, is also a well-inflated bubble, therefore, it does not break anywhere and silently prays what would have passed. Take at least this fact: 40 million men without women, from the word at all, there are already suggestions about double-marrying, new cities are empty, our engines cannot really rip off, they attributed 000 years of history to themselves, and foreign archaeologists are not allowed to visit ... So you need to listen to the dogs less and go your own way, as they say: "the road will be mastered by the one walking.
  20. fif21
    fif21 22 December 2015 08: 50
    +6
    China needs markets, and the fall of the ruble makes their goods expensive for Russians. And Russia's desire to sell not raw materials, but products from it, deprives China of income from processing our raw materials. The Chinese hucksters and the poor buyer only irritate them, and Medvedev "draws" a bright future for them, but the Chinese are not pensioners and state employees cannot hang on their ears. Hence the article "Xinhua". This is a cold shower for hot "Kremlin head. "There is no tragedy in this, the richer the people of Russia will be, the wider the smile on the face of the Chinese will be. Until then, we got what we deserved. hi
  21. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 22 December 2015 08: 52
    +2
    The decline in agriculture in Russia, but between the lines, it’s the same old song, we are more prudent, we don’t know how to use the land, but we can)) move over URAL, but no, over time we will move ourselves. They (the Chinese), this topic lives on, no matter what.
  22. 97110
    97110 22 December 2015 08: 59
    +1
    Not Russia is being written off from the accounts as a whole, but the Medvedev government. ”
    The article is alarmist. Personally, I heard from the box how Mr. Medvedev in some Chinese city (remember figs, built cities, panim) "took" some Chinese over the roof. He was not awarded an audience, but he - ACCEPTED !. Our Russia-24 said so bluntly. The author, of course, is a plus for the article - the person tried. But the residue from insufficiently emphasized love for the authorities remained. So in our comfortable state, where democracy flourishes, it is simply indecent to write. We must follow the example of Russia-24. And what the Chinese write there is that their democracy (the power of the ... people) is still not enough. So they get angry, slander our achievements.
  23. Governor
    Governor 22 December 2015 08: 59
    +3
    Without ideology, nothing will change ...
  24. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 22 December 2015 09: 09
    -2
    Many goods became cheaper to buy from us, and so the Chinese varied.
  25. syndicalist
    syndicalist 22 December 2015 09: 26
    -2
    What impudent people! We are building this "Power of Siberia" at our own expense, without any guarantees either in price or in volume, and they are also: "clearly not satisfied with the development of the project!" The only thing they seem to need is our territories. And TOPs are just the first step in this direction.
    1. Alexl
      Alexl 22 December 2015 10: 15
      +6
      You just need to direct this Power of Siberia to the development of Siberia itself, and not to the development of China.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 December 2015 10: 36
      -2
      The construction of the pipeline is Chinese funds and investors, there are contracts for almost a trillion dollars signed in 2014.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 22 December 2015 15: 01
        +2
        I have never read about a trillion. At first there was something about Gazprom’s advance payment of about 20 lard, but then the Chinese started talking about it on loan terms, and then this topic completely died out and in July they started talking about Gazprom building everything for its http://ria.ru/ economy / 20150626 / 1090108945.html. For the price of gas, the topic is generally dark. Already at the signing of the intentions, the experts argued that the price was below cost. Now, with the collapse of all prices several times, with all this it is generally not clear what
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 December 2015 15: 25
          +1
          Find a video about signing agreements and a project for the Force of Siberia in 2014 - there they will talk about investments and projects for a trillion.
  26. heal
    heal 22 December 2015 09: 49
    -1
    And here's some more news about prosperous Russia, and more precisely that Serdyukov’s case is immortal.
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/486330
  27. kirgudu
    kirgudu 22 December 2015 10: 31
    +1
    The gentlemen from the government are happy with everything, they are in abundance, and they chuck on Russia and the people. It is nothing more than a means of earning and commanding. Moreover, our "opposition" is exactly the same.

    There is no future without a clear state ideology and party policy where “high-ranking managers need to be paid at world prices (GDP 17.12.2015)”, and “there is no place for the rest of the workers as they have to”.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 December 2015 15: 27
      -2
      At the main mess in the regions, and not in the government.
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  29. Stas157
    Stas157 22 December 2015 11: 10
    +3
    According to Zhao Yu, it is impossible to get out of the systemic crisis without overcoming the “imbalance in the development of the financial and real sectors of the economy." And in Russia they are not only not overcome, but "continue to grow."

    And here is another opinion:
    Vladimir Putin, President of the Russian Federation: “I consider the allegations of those our experts and members of the government who believe that the peak of the crisis has passed” to be justified

    Read more on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1554197/?fb#ixzz3v2EjWz2V

    And who wants to trick us?
    Or maybe it’s more visible from the outside, especially since the Chinese said this not for us, but for internal use.
  30. fzr1000
    fzr1000 22 December 2015 11: 16
    +4
    The Chinese in the article question not only what Russia will cope with the situation, but whether this Government will cope with the situation. They really do not like the incompetence and theft of state monopolies, ministries, Federation Councils and the State Duma. They do not want to deal with them. What are they wrong about?
  31. rudolff
    rudolff 22 December 2015 11: 19
    +2
    “That's right,” he replied. “Russia is not written off from the accounts as a whole, but the government of Medvedev.”
    What the Medvedev government is and where it leads the country's economy is probably obvious to everyone. Well ... except for one person.
  32. Balalaikin
    Balalaikin 22 December 2015 11: 31
    0
    in the meantime ...
    http://warsonline.info/geostrategiya/kitay-provel-noviy-shelkoviy-put-v-obchod-r
    ossii-cherez-turtsiiu.html
    China launched a new "Silk Road" bypassing Russia through Turkey
    On December 13, 2015, the first freight train from China to Istanbul along the "restored Silk Road" is at the Tbilisi-Central railway station in the capital of Georgia. The train was greeted by Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili, Director General of the Georgian Railway, Chinese Ambassador to Georgia, and other officials, newsru.com reported citing Interfax.

    Georgian Prime Minister Garibashvili called this day "historic". “By using the Silk Road, our country is returning to itself the historical mission that has been entrusted to it for centuries,” he said. Now, he is sure, “Georgia is starting to make a real contribution to ensuring general economic well-being ... From the extreme east of China, from the port of Lianyungang, the cargo will be delivered to Istanbul in a maximum of 14-15 days, while earlier this period was 40- 45 days"...
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 22 December 2015 12: 12
      0
      With overloads in the Caspian and Black Sea? Or by train via Azerbaijan?)) And then why is Georgia needed? Why can’t you immediately transfer trains to Baku?
      And why not through Ukraine?))
    2. Goga101
      Goga101 22 December 2015 13: 18
      +5
      Balalaikin - How did you want? Of course, bypassing Russia - even for our fishermen from the Far East, it is more profitable to send fish to the European part of Russia by sea, halfway through the world, than to carry it to Russian Railways, with such tariffs, and we will not agree to build a high-speed road from China to Kazan and Moscow with China - ours themselves do not know how to do this, but the Chinese (world leaders in this matter) are not allowed to do anything - from the Chinese you will not get a "kickback" ... that's why Georgia, Turkey, anyone, just not Russia. That is why the neighbors are nervous - we have an inoperative government, they only "monitor" and "target" everything, and none of them ever knew how to work, and they were not going to, of course the neighbors are not interested in dealing with such "personnel" ...
  33. Alexey Lesogor
    Alexey Lesogor 22 December 2015 12: 02
    +1
    "Its essence lies in the de-industrialization of the economy and the decline of agriculture, and after its completion, as a rule, there is the impossibility of a rapid recovery of the manufacturing industry and the agricultural sector."


    An exact definition of the economic situation in Russia, with the exception of the Union of Artists in some regions.

    The Russian government was directly made clear: you do not know how to work, you led Russia into a dead end, and you are not the ones who will show Russia a way out.


    Medvedev and his government are the biggest evil for Russia. (Shoigu exception)
    1. Alexey Lesogor
      Alexey Lesogor 22 December 2015 13: 38
      +1
      Just a minus? No reason?
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  34. C2H5OH
    C2H5OH 22 December 2015 12: 27
    +1
    Everyone thinks about their own benefit. HERE and Russia need to think about themselves in the first place.
  35. Balalaikin
    Balalaikin 22 December 2015 12: 49
    0
    Quote: Eugene RS
    And why not through Ukraine?))

    Who is going to take the “gingerbread” today through urkain, they want to blow up the Chinese cable layer, and the goods will be stolen at all and will say that they are separatists ...
  36. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 13: 01
    +1
    I did not go deeper into reprints, but apparently we are talking about the article "China declared Russia's strategic impasse" or something like that.
    I do not know Chinese, like the author of the article (or reprint)
    here is what is written here: http://x-true.info/30111-razoblachen-vbros-o-kitae-predatele-i-strategicheskom-t
    upike-rossii.html
    it seems we’re rubbing stuff here. Of course, for liberalism, articles such as honey. Well rejoiced in free creativity. and then what?)))
    1. Grizli-666
      Grizli-666 22 December 2015 13: 30
      +1
      I also wanted to give a link. Recently, in a military review, in general, a lot of people of a liberal or pseudo-patriotic kind have come across a comment (these are those who also insist that everything is shit, but supposedly want a good country). They passionately spit each other and create the appearance that there are many of them.
  37. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 13: 23
    -2
    Quote: Sirocco
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Write to us from the 90s?

    And when you will be in transit in Ulan-Ud, get off and look at all the sights, both agricultural and industrial.

    passing through Detroit (as an option).
    Well this does not mean that in other cities and villages the same.
    oh how we love to reason, sitting on the priest exactly. someone should put an even in the beak.
  38. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 13: 26
    -3
    Quote: antogonism
    The Chinese are right. 100%.

    what exactly? in what they never wrote?
  39. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 13: 38
    -1
    Quote: Grizli-666
    I also wanted to give a link. Recently, in a military review, in general, a lot of people of a liberal or pseudo-patriotic kind have come across a comment (these are those who also insist that everything is shit, but supposedly want a good country). They passionately spit each other and create the appearance that there are many of them.

    but there are really a lot of them ... at least accounts. well, maybe some of them work like that)))
    ABOUT! definitely minus. Well, as small children))) let them entertain.
    and with regards to liberalists, theirs is the only tool they can use from afar - to promote or write something deceitful and vile to write, to convincingly mix with some facts or figures from statistics. what if someone leads. ;) they are not capable of real open actions, because they value sandpaper
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  40. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 14: 06
    -2
    Quote: DC 3
    The Chinese are right that Russia is weak. Or do you want to say that if Russia were strong, there would be such a contemptuous article? Two countries play big - China and the United States. In their "courtyard", Syria, we are allowed to play, but no more. Money makes business, a lot of money, but Russia doesn't have it. Rather, there are Russian oligarchs who, alas, are not Russia.


    Is Russia weak? Is having your own independent policy or one of the strongest armies in the world a weakness? if Russia were weak, then from it long ago they would make a semblance of Yugoslavia, or, still, a living, but half-dead example, Ukraine.
    This article was scornfully done. it has little to do with the original.
    it is necessary to think at least sometimes, analyze, and not taldychit the same thing and lick one’s incomprehensible thing.
  41. Man1
    Man1 22 December 2015 14: 12
    +5
    Unfortunately, the Chinese newspaper accurately described the state of affairs in the Russian economy. And this, not least, is the work of our powers that be, with its foreign policy.
    And yes, to all urapatriots and other people fooled by the Kremlin propaganda there, please pass by.
  42. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 14: 22
    -1
    favorite abusive words from the vocabulary of liberalism: urapatriot, cap-hatred.
    almost everywhere where they are used, one should usually expect that the meaning of speech boils down to one thing: affairs are good, government is good, opponents are good, the author is smart and far-sighted.))) Well, how about D'Artagnan
  43. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 14: 41
    0
    Quote: region58
    Quote: Dimy4
    As for industry and agriculture right to the point: the fields are overgrown with shrubs, the equipment is put to scrap metal, the former workshops of the plants look at the empty sockets of the windows. Post apocalypse.

    And here is another translation of the same article: http://russian.news.cn/2015-12/18/c_134931336.htm
    And the meaning there is completely different.

    and this meaning is quite enough for them - the smelly, the tastier. Do you think they have not seen another version? saw))) they don’t need to analyze something.
  44. maxim1981
    maxim1981 22 December 2015 14: 57
    0
    so china turned away and what to do
  45. tacet
    tacet 22 December 2015 15: 16
    0
    Sly article, it seems everything is as it is written, but also not so ...)
    At the expense of agriculture, in our region there is approximately the following picture - the Volga crosses it from the northwest to the southeast, the left bank part has fallen into disrepair (people began to live in the forest), there is no uncultivated land on the right bank. neighbors in Chuvashia, there is the same picture as we have on the right bank. In the industry of the regional center, everything is also contradictory: the reconstruction of the Machine-Building Plant is coming to an end, the reconstruction of the aircraft plant has begun (1,5 years ago), the shipbuilding plant began to emerge more vividly from its peak (although it will be limping for a long time) after the leading and guiding role of Bendukidze, Rosatom enterprises have long felt myself is quite normal. On the other hand, many factories are in a state of "clinical death", GAZ is again cutting staff ...
    As a result, there are many problems, but considering the issue one-sidedly in the style of "Chef, everything is gone ..." will not lead to positive results, especially in conditions of limited means and solution tools.
  46. Tagan
    Tagan 22 December 2015 15: 21
    -1
    Quote: DC 3
    Tagan!
    You calm down, please, emotions on football are good. And look better at the state of affairs. The presence of Gauges and Yars makes the situation stable, but unreliable. The presence of a triad in the 90s, formally made the Russian Federation the strongest state, and in fact the service staff of Washington and London, right? Since then, something has changed, but not all. Common sense should tell us that there is still a lot of work, in three shifts. And Mr. Medvedev’s Komsomol enthusiasm is certainly good, but what exactly is it based on?

    And who says it's time to rest on our laurels? Medvedev is not the only figure on whom it is worth focusing attention. not everything is going smoothly. but no one promised drastic changes at the click. the main thing is that there is progress. let him go through the back of the head. I can judge what I know and observe. The defense industry was also breathing - this is a fact (not unimportant for the further development of the citizen). On some Caliber and Yars so far, too, no one hung his legs)))
  47. maxim1981
    maxim1981 22 December 2015 15: 24
    +2
    China has labor camps for the economy, and social services are minimal
    1. kazachyok69
      kazachyok69 22 December 2015 17: 19
      0
      China has labor camps for the economy, and social services are minimal

      Something like this ... but I would say "no social network at all"!
      There are no pensions ... according to official data, they cover 30 million people who will then receive them ... there is no obligatory medical service at all ...
      By the way, you did not mention that there are still almost 800 million over the poor peasants, there is a labor reserve ...
  48. maxim1981
    maxim1981 22 December 2015 15: 35
    0
    The yuan has become the reserve currency, China’s too powerful economy rests on a huge human resource, but it’s in vain that we sell military equipment to China, they copy it and corrode it, Israel did not sell drones
  49. Linkin
    Linkin 22 December 2015 16: 11
    0
    The Chinese press is the mouthpiece of the official authorities, their thoughts and discontent ... and also a good reason to think about "friendship", just in quotes.
  50. kazachyok69
    kazachyok69 22 December 2015 16: 28
    +1
    Harness lol
    Russians developed a “crisis management plan”. It implies: a) the transition to a one-year budget (from 2016); b) the expansion of economic freedom while reducing the presence of the state in the economy; c) increasing the intellectual potential of Russians.

    The people ... without laughter only - do we expect expansion of economic freedom? This, without laughter, is ridiculously simple - they crushed by taxes, energy prices are rising, giving loans (honestly speaking) is unrealistic with such a% - the profit to give, production cannot have that ..
    Is it possible that something will increase about raising the intellectual level with the USE and fiction in the form of higher education (in 90% this is so)?
    In short, Medvedev Well done, that the country is scratching nonsense and the laws are stamping "fantastic" that the Chinese rubs .... or he is a Tree-Oak or "he is far from the state of affairs in the country."