The Bundeswehr ordered more than a hundred Boxer armored personnel carriers

On Friday, the German defense procurement agency BAAINBw signed a contract with Artec GmbHh to supply the Bundeswehr 131 an armored personnel carrier GTK Boxer, the blog reports bmpd with a link to www.kmweg.com. Contract value - € 476 million

Earlier, the German Defense Ministry ordered 272 machines. Thus, the total number of machines ordered was 403 units.

“The Artec consortium now unites the German companies Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall. From the optional 131 BTR Boxer, KMW will manufacture the 96 machines, and Rheinmetall the remaining 35. The joint program of purchasing machines on the Boxer platform for the armies of the Federal Republic of Germany and the Netherlands (the latter was ordered by 200 units) is managed by the European agency OCCAR, ”the website reports.

In addition, the Bundeswehr is considering the possibility of acquiring a hundred additional "Boxers" with an uninhabited KMW RCT-30 turret armed with an Rheinmetall MK 30-30 / ABM 2-gun (now installed on new Puma BMPs).

Comments

[gray smeet]

The flywheel begins to spin with a vengeance ....

And more recently, they wrote that the German military machine was "on the sidelines" - in the BMP, cuttings from shovels instead of guns, six combat-ready aircraft, no soldiers ...

We need to prepare hard ....

[Lord of the Sith]

Joint Boxer purchasing program for armies of Germany and the Netherlands

Already in Latvia, in my opinion 88 units.

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Already in Latvia, in my opinion 88 units.

- Such machines will probably get balts in about forty years - when they become hopelessly outdated, and those that were released finally wear out. This is a common practice in relation to the "defenders of Europe" - that of the Balts, that of Ukraine. Present (sell) junk, not even allowing the thought of arming them with new technologies. And here it’s hard not to understand the Europeans - you never know what these savages will learn.

[cheap trick]

The purchase of howitzers was discussed during a visit by the German Minister of Defense to Lithuania in April this year. In the coming weeks, the Lithuanian authorities will have to make a decision on the acquisition of infantry fighting vehicles, and this deal may become the largest in the history of the Lithuanian Armed Forces. Among the favorites in this deal is also German equipment - BMP Boxer. The defense budget of Lithuania next year should increase by 35% to 574 million euros, shows the draft budget published this year.

The volume of the contract and its amount are not specified. Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that it would like to provide two mechanized battalions with new equipment, for which about 70 combat vehicles are needed. Then it was indicated that up to 350 million euros would be required for this. In that case, it would be the largest military contract in the history of Lithuania.


so here! Lithuania has already bought 50 cars! if you don’t know why to write so pathetically?

[KBR109]

This is trash. Sold out of the presence of the Bundeswehr.

[clidon]

The Baltic states ordered new armored personnel carriers with the Israeli combat module + Spikes.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Already in Latvia, in my opinion 88 units.

- And in appearance - a shed-shed. Only on wheels.

[slaw14]

I would not call a barn. This is one of the best BTR station wagons with modular armor. The internal filling and the convenience of the landing are impressive, the Germans do not do shit.
Cons - it weighs like a tank and stands like a plane.
In 2008, our defense industry planned to purchase a license for Boxer, it was a throw-in or it was really not for me to judge.

[Lord of Wrath]

If you trace the pedigree, then you can safely consider the ancestor of the Swiss Piranha
I would have compiled so Piranha- Lav25- LAVIII- Striker- Patria AMV- Boxer
Boxer with its modular Mexas and AMAP armor and armament is currently one of the best representatives of multi-purpose armored personnel carriers

[Atrix]

I don’t know why people don’t like this car. According to the performance characteristics it’s normal, I also like the look, it reminds me of transport from Aliens-2

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: Atrix

I don’t know why people don’t like this car. According to the performance characteristics it’s normal, I also like the look, it reminds me of transport from Aliens-2

- Probably triggered by "fermented patriotism." Anything good can only be with us.

[Forest]

People are obsessed with the appearance of the BTR-60 / 80 line and under any article about the new BTRs you can find "a shed, easy to get in, RPG and ATGM does not keep, don't turn around in the city, how to climb on the armor."

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Atrix

I also like the look, it reminds me of transport from Aliens-2

which, in turn, is the Douglas airfield tractor)))

[VNP1958PVN]

Again preparing for "Drang tries osten?" What a short memory 70 years is all

[kapitan92]

"People" began to arm themselves, not for good IT!

[A-Sim]

2-3 years to break in and into the business ... Would not miss.

[rotmistr60]

No wonder. Germany, like any other country, must worry about its army. It’s just that the Germans realized that for many years, hoping for NATO (the United States), they slightly launched their army, which has already been written more than once.

[S_last]

The Germans hoped for NATO or not does not really matter. The ability of industry to dramatically increase production and the very existence of this production itself is of importance. And with this the Germans are in complete order. And mechanical engineering, and machine tool industry, equipment, energy, electronics, trained personnel, all in stock. If necessary, they can increase the production of weapons at times and orders.

[Horst78]

Do you have reserves for losses? All the same, in NATO, the sanitary facilities became cramped.

[SALLAK]

It looks so nothing like ... It's just that the sides do not have rational tilt angles ... plus the drove glazing, it catches the eye ... If I think with a RPG I will charge the box caput ... Still, our armored vehicles in my opinion stand out background of these irons.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: SALLAK

Nevertheless, my armored personnel carriers, in my opinion, stand out against the background of these irons.

about three years ago in the media there was infa that the Russian Ministry of Defense is testing Boxer for the purpose of possible adoption and production under license.

[kamil_tt]

Again, from the principle of hai, is it not ours?) Let's look at things really already: ours differ only in price. Today, Boxer is one of the best, if not the best armored personnel carrier in the world: the front tilt is more than enough, the side is enough, but that would not eat up the internal space + thick armor and additional hinged protection. In the combat position, the mechanic’s hatch closes completely, and the armored glazing is only in marching mode for a better view, when our people simply poke their heads outside, in frost, snow, rain and slush .. In terms of carrying capacity, spaciousness, crew protection, comfort, electronics and modularity BTR 82 design and is not worth it. And at the expense of the RPG, but they can break anything, and so what?

[SALLAK]

Listen to the realist, but why is this iron better than 82 ??? So that electronics stuffed more ??? What to do with it in the field without rembaza ?? Convenience for the landing ?? Is it so important in combat conditions ?? And that this pelvis doesn’t even know how to swim ?? And yes, our cheaper is new and much easier and cheaper to attend ...

[Massik]

The fact that this iron is not vulnerable in the frontal projection from 30mm 2A72, but the BTR 82A, when using the ancient 25mm Bradley gun on it (to say nothing about the 30mm reinmetal) will quickly turn into a device for discarding noodles.

[Forest]

The NATO equipment is repaired no more slowly, and with the presence of an ARV even faster than ours. Enough of the stereotypes since the advent of the Tiger under the course of living. Boxer has better reservations than any of our infantry fighting vehicles, not to mention armored personnel carriers, which do not pierce a finger. It holds an RPG-7 with a PG-7 charge in the frontal projection, and not every RPG tank will survive on board. High mobility, excellent visibility through sights, a large number of modules with weapons, much better electronics. The ability to swim in most cases is not needed. Have you ever sat down in armored personnel carriers with weapons and with full equipment? After that, you will appreciate the convenient solution. And so the BTR-80 is only superior in price to the German. In general, the presence of our armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles with thin armor and sights of the 40's on the battlefield is a big mistake.

[S_last]

Great comment. The only thing I disagree with is the favorable price. If you compare this equipment with the same BMP-3, then there isn’t much difference, the last sale of this equipment to the same Greece was at a price of almost 3 million euros per unit. If we take the BTR-82 for comparison, then apparently it makes sense to compare the BTR-82AM, how much it costs to find it difficult to say. The civilian option with a KAMAZ diesel, which everyone can buy for themselves, costs 5,5 million, I think the military will be more expensive. But we can say for sure that the modernization of the BTR-82 to the BTR-82AM costs 20 million per unit.

[S_last]

Many times it has already been said, written, etc. .. that glazing is a walking option, in battle all this is omitted and the driver controls the machine according to the pictures transmitted by the cameras.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: S_last

Many times it has already been said, written, etc. .. that glazing is a walking option,

Yes, do not pay attention. To me, such commentators generally remind a youngster who got rights yesterday and moved from a moped to daddy’s “Niva”, but actively cp ... saying in automobile forums that “the cayenne has a steering wheel that is not informative, the GLE has a suspension that breaks, and the explorer has an automatic with steps "

[kamil_tt]

the main thing is to be assertive, it’s obligatory for you, respect for doubters is, in principle, excluded, and not to doubt that the whole world envies us. "patriots" everything is possible)

[Zeppelin ml.]

“The Artec consortium now unites the German companies Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall.

damned militarists! And we have Artek - a pioneer camp.

[atamankko]

Something with the memory of the German became ...

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: atamankko

Something with the memory of the German became ...

and what is wrong?

[Barakuda]

Marx must be read. You can Engels on kraynyak.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Barracuda

Marx must be read. You can Engels on kraynyak.

and what about Marx's wheeled armored vehicles?

[R-22]

Yes, you understand, it’s all so simple when a German armor plate of a similar design, and even with German soldiers, and with German crosses on its sides, I personally want to shy away from it, because they do not have the right to ride, that's all. and so everything is in order.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: R-22

I personally want to shy into it

and what does Marx have to do with it? "Does Karl Marx forbid keeping carpets on the stairs? Does Karl Marx say somewhere that the 2nd entrance of the Kalabukhov house on Prechistenka should be clogged with boards and walk around through the backyard? .." (c) Prof. Preobrazhensky

Quote: R-22

because they don’t have the right to ride,

And who denied them this right? Man with a nickname R-22?

[moskowit]

A decent amount. This, apparently, is about replacing the entire fleet of armored vehicles of this class.
If you take the car to the compartment, then roughly 13 battalions are obtained, somewhere 3 brigades. Decent power. Calculations are conditional, offhand ...

[Massik]

Prior to the “boomerang” approach, any of our armored personnel carriers would cut it off, which is not surprising with a two and a half times superior mass. For the tank, he certainly is not a competitor and much more noticeable because of the large size.

Again preparing for "Drang tries osten?" What a short memory 70 years is all

Something with the memory of the German became ...

Judging by your logic, comrades "patriots", then our memory is even shorter.

[knn54]

First, they would have "ordered" Mansteinov. Guderianov ... or nobody?

[SPLV]

European ergonomics, caring for people ... And a plastic bottle is attached to the mirror bracket with adhesive tape - the wash basin is improvised, like at any construction site in our country. Enlightened Europe? Or home-made bumpers, so that the mirror does not inadvertently scratch? "Peacocks, you say? .."

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: SPLV

And a plastic bottle is attached to the mirror bracket with tape - an improvised washbasin, like on any construction site in our country.

hardly a "washbasin" if Boxer even has a dry closet. Rather, the marker marker is impromptu

[gukoyan]

Refresh your armor park.
I smell the old equipment at the flea market.

[Barakuda]

Warehouses with RPG-7, I think, are not empty.

[APASUS]

Quote: Barracuda

Warehouses with RPG-7, I think, are not empty.

In such a two-story house, even I will get their RPGs. Last year, I just went and remembered 10 days

[Forest]

Can you name at least one armored personnel carrier that is superior in protection to a tank?

[Mechanic]

Quote: gray smeet

We need to prepare hard ....

Again - we need, we must! And who the hell do you find responsible. And personally, you can say: "I'm ready!"?

[Barakuda]

Personally, I’m ready a year ago. Give the attendance current to the road and a normal polkan. And not a joke at all. Here you are and the mercenary for Mother Russia. From Khokhlostan.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Barracuda

Here you are and the mercenary for Mother Russia. From Khokhlostan.

But what, Mother Russia already requires mercenaries to fight the Bundeswehr?

[manguest]

It seems the Bundes understand that they will have to fight at home. Although the scale of the procurements is not impressive, with their deceit it is still a lot of money that must be torn from the hungry mouths of pseudo-refugees.

[kamil_tt]

Quote: SALLAK

Listen to the realist, but why is this iron better than 82 ??? So that electronics stuffed more ??? What to do with it in the field without rembaza ?? Convenience for the landing ?? Is it so important in combat conditions ?? And that this pelvis doesn’t even know how to swim ?? And yes, our cheaper is new and much easier and cheaper to attend ...

What can I say, a decent answer) then electronics (means of detection, aiming) is not needed, it suddenly breaks? it’s easier to look out for the enemy with binoculars. Convenience is also not the main thing, a skewed, frozen / fried fighter with numb limbs, crawling out under enemy fire from a gunned board armored personnel carrier - what is needed in combat conditions? indeed, it is possible to get with the breeze and the waving flag on the armor! but it floats (after an hour of preparation) ..