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In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia

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The Ukrainian side expresses indignation at the fact that individual European companies are looking at the observance of anti-Russian sanctions. So, the Ukrainian portal ZN.ua publishes material that the German industrial giant Siemens is allegedly going to participate in the program of reorientation of the Crimean peninsula from the Ukrainian energy system to the Russian one. It is reported that Siemens experts are ready to sell their gas turbines to the peninsula. Such installations, according to the statements of Kiev, are ready to purchase Russian Gazprom from the German company.


In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia


From the material of the “concerned” non-observance of the sanctions of Ukrainian journalists:
It is gas that should become the main resource for the production of electricity on the peninsula. At the same time, it is planned to lay two gas pipelines from the territory of Russia through the Kerch Strait, in which both Gazprom and Power Machines with Siemens are interested, since it is highly likely that their gas turbine equipment will be ordered by the Russian gas monopolist.


It is reported that we are talking about the readiness of Siemens to sell the gas turbine units of the gas turbine unit SGT5-2000E to Russia, the capacity of which in a single-shaft version is 253 MW. The submission also states that 4,2 billion rubles were allocated from the federal budget of Russia for the purchase of gas turbines in Germany to Crimea. At the same time, the Ukrainian media are indignant not only by the “probable” supplies of the installations themselves, but also by the fact that Siemens allegedly indicates in the documents about the delivery of the installations not to the Crimea, but to the Taman Peninsula.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 06: 36 New
    111
    In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia
    and you punish Germany, it’s milk, don’t let fat! wassat
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 21 December 2015 06: 41 New
      33
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Andrey Yurievich (4) SU Today, 06: 36 New

      In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia
      and you punish Germany, it’s milk, don’t let fat! wassat

      Yes, they’re just crazy that GTU with Motor Sich aren’t delivered to Russia anymore (they themselves refused fool ) And Siemens are going to produce their gas turbines in Perm what
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 06: 56 New
        19
        Quote: Horst78
        . And Siemens are going to produce their gas turbines in Perm

        import substitution again? what(Perm, from Perm, to Perm)
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 December 2015 07: 15 New
          15
          Let them say what they want, but today the X-time has come for the repayment of the debt, and for some reason they are silent about this.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 21 December 2015 07: 24 New
            33
            It’s time for the Senet to move his eyebrows menacingly and make Germany a suggestion with a warning about possible sanctions by Ukraine.
            1. Evrepid
              Evrepid 22 December 2015 12: 40 New
              +4
              threateningly abandon EU loans! Introduce sanctions for loans from Europe! and freeze on evil Moscow and Berlin with Brussels. :)))

              They were already like that ... They called me Poles :)
          2. heal
            heal 21 December 2015 07: 41 New
            -38
            And Putin has already extended the term before the New Year.
            1. heal
              heal 21 December 2015 07: 48 New
              -15
              Anyone who is against:
              Is not it so? Did you watch the news?
              1. mark2
                mark2 21 December 2015 08: 29 New
                30
                The news said that 31 is not the deadline for paying the state debt, but the day Ukraine defaults. from this day, no normal financial structure will have anything to do with Ukraine, besides, perhaps, the IMF. So they said: In addition to the IMF.
              2. zadorin1974
                zadorin1974 21 December 2015 09: 50 New
                17
                Do not confuse the soft with the warm. The repayment day is one, if the client could not make the payment, he has a grace period (here there is a difference between the global financial culture and the scoop huckster from banks) .And after this period the creditor country has every right apply to international arbitration. Here's something like that, why dull catch up.
              3. Avantageur
                Avantageur 22 December 2015 11: 29 New
                +2
                Quote: heal
                And Putin has already extended the term before the New Year.


                10 days for the payment of Russia's debt on Eurobonds, gave for the "government" of Ukraine Dmitry Medvedev.

                Quote: MinFin
                From a formal point of view, failure to fulfill obligations on bonds will occur if Ukraine does not make the relevant payment before the end of the so-called “grace” period, which expires on December 31
              4. wow
                wow 22 December 2015 17: 02 New
                +5
                According to the standards, after the onset of the hour “H”, another ten days is given. Probably so that the negligent debtor thought better of it, like that.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 23 December 2015 15: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: yo-mine
                  so that the negligent debtor changes his mind

                  "What will happen if we do not repay the debt to Russia"
                  "You will be ashamed of the Lord God when you appear before him ..."
                  "Well, when will it still be ..."
                  "But if you don’t pay tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow you will appear ..." repeat
            2. Myth
              Myth 21 December 2015 09: 26 New
              -8
              And you have both left legs
            3. Kite
              Kite 21 December 2015 10: 49 New
              -3
              But what about! Of course, they give out gifts for the New Year!
              1. Kite
                Kite 22 December 2015 22: 08 New
                +2
                Do you understand sarcasm? Or nerves to the limit, not to joke?
                If jokes need to be interpreted, then this is a problem, but not mine:
                Default as a gift will be presented with the chiming clock.
            4. APASUS
              APASUS 21 December 2015 11: 02 New
              +8
              Quote: heal
              And Putin has already extended the term before the New Year.

              There is a period from which the loan time is calculated + 10 days for the transfer of funds.
              I hope this is clear
              1. vic58
                vic58 21 December 2015 14: 24 New
                +4
                Judging by ukrSMI, it is +10 days to transfer rabbit funds to offshore. And then, I'm afraid to feel him for the genitals not in the Rada, but in the zone hi
              2. Avantageur
                Avantageur 22 December 2015 11: 38 New
                +1
                Quote: APASUS
                10 days to transfer funds

                To transfer funds to repay external government loans of three billion US dollars, Kiev was due no later than 21 December. That is, the next day.
          3. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 21 December 2015 08: 23 New
            +2
            The state debt of dill can return the products GTU "Motorsich" as an option.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 21 December 2015 10: 22 New
              +5
              No, we already can for helicopters ourselves. Well, it’s better to let Zarya give the paid GTD for corvettes, it’s the best option
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 21 December 2015 11: 27 New
                +5
                Quote: zadorin1974
                let the "Dawn" paid GTD for the corvettes will give,

                But this is a separate article, in no way connected with three billion. This is at the level of the debt of Yuzhmash. Prepayment was received, the products were not made, the money was gobbled up. The most fair and honest action. In dill.
                1. zadorin1974
                  zadorin1974 21 December 2015 11: 51 New
                  0
                  Ezhaku. All this is clear. I answered the Colonel repeat
            2. GRAY
              GRAY 21 December 2015 10: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: Black Colonel
              The state debt of dill can return the products GTU "Motorsich" as an option.

              What for is it needed? Then you can break off with the service and spare parts.
            3. pilot bin-bom
              pilot bin-bom 22 December 2015 22: 14 New
              0
              Is it a meat grinder or something? In Ukraine, only such helical blades remained in Ukraine, and more or less valuable was transferred and transferred to Belarus. By the way, Bulbashs have already announced the launch of the Aist cruise missile in 2016
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. Horst78
          Horst78 21 December 2015 08: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Andrey Yurievich (4) SU Today, 06: 56 ↑ New

          Quote: Horst78
          . And Siemens are going to produce their gas turbines in Perm

          import substitution again? what (Perm, from Perm, to Perm)

          Even so. Do we have a lot of our gas turbines? All basically still developments of the USSR. Yes, and power is not enough. Stalin took imported technology and did not frown. hi
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 21 December 2015 11: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: Horst78
            Stalin took imported technology and did not frown.

            What is China doing now? But this, for some unknown reason, not all Russians like. Is not it? hi
        4. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 21 December 2015 08: 45 New
          +7
          The Ukrainian side expresses indignation ...
          - Head over heels in guano, and everyone is watching so that someone "tame" Russia. A little pot-bellied thing ...
      2. Blondy
        Blondy 21 December 2015 07: 40 New
        +1
        Why are you freaking out, as they say in America: "nothing personal is just business." Or maybe they are completely on the side of Ukraine and are fighting, based on their strengths and capabilities, with Russian import substitution.
      3. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 21 December 2015 07: 48 New
        0
        So the plant power machines is a joint venture with Siemens www.power-m.ru has long existed and is alive)
      4. Kite
        Kite 21 December 2015 10: 45 New
        0
        And, it seems, “Power Machines” always had a St. Petersburg residence permit and Siemens had a share of shares there for a long time, even going to take complete control. This is an old argument.
      5. sinoptic
        sinoptic 21 December 2015 12: 18 New
        +5
        How tired of that!
        "Perm" - is written without a soft sign between "r" and "m". But it reads softly.

        In Russian, developed regressive assimilation on the basis of hardness-softness. This means that the subsequent soft consonant affects the previous one.

        This is the official rule in Russian, in the 6th grade they study it in school.
        Learn the Russian language, they will respect you more respectfully.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 22 December 2015 19: 36 New
          0
          You have too many letters in the alphabet! That's confused. laughing
          Sincerely.
          Solid threesome in Russian.
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 21 December 2015 06: 41 New
      19
      When the dog (Kiev!) Begins to bark at the owner, the owner (Germany!) Will either shoot it or bring it to the kindergarten.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 06: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: juborg
        When the dog (Kiev!) Begins to bark at the owner, the owner (Germany!) Will either shoot it or bring it to the kindergarten.

        wassat you don’t know Evropa ... no one will offend SABAKu, as if they could, maybe not a dog! laughing
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 07: 16 New
        18
        People, close by topic, close, but not quite laughing
        in Drohobych, Lviv region, the 36-year-old prosecutor Pavel Khimchuk committed suicide .... 9 stab wounds of the abdomen with control 2 in the neck lol
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 07: 23 New
          +2
          and cho, sashko beaten, also shot himself ... lolGood day, Sanya ... hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 December 2015 07: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            and cho, sashko beaten, also shot himself ...

            And the deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs shot two bullets in his head. The second control laughing
            Healthy drinks
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 21 December 2015 10: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And the deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs shot two bullets in his head. The second control


              Hey.
              This is their bullet "not the right system" or a multi-barrel weapon with one trigger. bully

              Threat. Something quite a while ago, Fidget does not give a voice, what would it be?
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 10: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Lelek
                Threat. Something quite a while ago, Fidget does not give a voice, what would it be?

                yes ... miss you already. what
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 21 December 2015 08: 37 New
          0
          Okay, at least they didn’t rape him in the head.
        3. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 21 December 2015 09: 56 New
          +1
          Sasha, is it like in a joke about an orange? Slid on an orange, fell on a knife, and so 17 times?
        4. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 21 December 2015 13: 21 New
          +4
          Of course, I heard that the samurai have such a national tradition ... dump their liver. The training there is spectacular of course, but for some reason no one paints pictures of the resulting "still life" ...
          And that means that the great Ukrainians want to assure everyone that their prosecutors are more abrupt than the samurai. They are not limited to one cut, but go like a sewing machine. Well, and of course two to the neck ... this is the height of Seppuku's grace.
          Poor, poor Ukrainians ...
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 21 December 2015 06: 44 New
      +9
      ... Have you read the text of these sanctions? (This was a rhetorical question. Of course not.) But sanctions, by the way, concern only three dozen Russian companies and two hundred individuals. It’s not enough to successfully “fill up” the whole country, no?

      More or less, only part of the sanctions works - in the financial market. We successfully circumvent industrial sanctions. After all, the Western producer is interested in selling their products to us, and only politicians and bureaucrats are interested in sanctions, that is, the interests of the economic and political elites do not coincide, and we play on this.

      For example: we are planning the construction of power plants in OUR Crimea. We order steam generators from Siemens “for TPPs on the Taman Peninsula”. Siemens smiles knowingly and sells them to us. Scream, high, grunt ... and Siemens is calm: meine herren, this is Taman, this is not Crimea. She is not under sanctions. Calm down and do not interfere with work.

      Taman, yes. And what? Siemens believes us. Another way is to purchase dumb things through one-day firms. The states are trying to track them, the investigation mechanisms have been worked out in Iran, but we have the experience of the Russian 90s: the company buys three or four units of “sanctioned” equipment, the States notice this, launch an investigation, it ends successfully, the company is ordered to punish - and she ( surprise!) for a long time does not work ...

      Apparently in Banderastan read an article a year ago "Kakya stood with r ... m or the Third Epistle to the Kuevlians together with Russia" laughing politobzor.net/show-62162-kak-ya-vmeste-s-rossiey-stoyal-rakom-ili-trete-poslani
      ek-kuevlyanam-chast-2.html
    4. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 21 December 2015 06: 49 New
      +4
      Yes, and do not take out the trash on the streets in Germany, let them grow up with trash.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 23 December 2015 16: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander 3
        do not take out the trash on the streets in Germany, let them grow over with trash.

        And wash their toilets badly, even if r ... m overgrow. repeat
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 December 2015 07: 26 New
      +8
      Let the territory404, sanctions will be imposed against Germany, because then the loonie has unhappered,
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia
      and you punish Germany, it’s milk, don’t let fat! wassat

      So Germany in FIG Khokhlop trigger, egg, milk did not fall, there is nothing to put on.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 23 December 2015 16: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: 79807420129
        Khokhlop trigger, egg, milk did not fall, there is nothing to put on.

        And these ... like them ... "Trinken wot and poke a woman." lol
    6. Sweles
      Sweles 21 December 2015 07: 29 New
      -6
      It is reported that we are talking about Siemens’ readiness to sell gas turbine units of the GTU SGT5-2000E to Russia, the single-version capacity of which is 253 MW. The material also says that 4,2 billion rubles were allocated from the federal budget of Russia for the acquisition of gas turbines in Germany.


      Since when has Germany consumed Russian rubles? And anyway, why do we need Siemens, our turbines, or not?
      1. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 21 December 2015 11: 28 New
        +8
        Looks like there are no suitable ones, besides, Motor Sich, Kharkov Turboatom, and others are now unavailable, but it's impossible to replace everything right away. But this is not a problem: Siemens will soon move to Russia completely, I’m not Wang, but remember my words :)

        Threat. In the ZN article, I liked the phrase about the Chinese cable layer more:
        If Ukraine had taken appropriate diplomatic demarches, and a ship that ignored the sanctions regime would have received an anti-ship missile on board, then there can be no doubt that the Chinese and other potential Kremlin contractors would have thought many times before deciding on certain actions in violation of the sanctions , even if they give a lot of money for it. Yes, and Ukraine would be respected.
        Read more here: http://gazeta.zn.ua/international/rossiysko-germanskiy-nur-gesch-ft-ili-tehnolog
        iya-obhoda-sankciy -_. html

        Brave hamsters! :)
    7. Doomph
      Doomph 21 December 2015 08: 13 New
      +1
      "In Kiev, they say that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia"

      So it’s like they didn’t give a word? am
    8. vodolaz
      vodolaz 21 December 2015 08: 37 New
      +3
      So enter the sanctions against Germany))))))))))))))
    9. marlin1203
      marlin1203 21 December 2015 09: 53 New
      0
      Yeah, right now, Ukraine will begin to indicate to Germany what to do ... laughing
    10. KCA
      KCA 21 December 2015 11: 44 New
      +2
      Since the time of the USSR, Bosch-Siemens has skillfully circumvented all kinds of sanctions, the Ukrainians will have to put up with it, I think the delivery scheme will be so tricky that even monkeys can’t show anything
    11. goncharov.62
      goncharov.62 22 December 2015 11: 25 New
      +2
      "In Kiev, they say that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia"

      Go to the Sex Reform League! (from)
    12. wow
      wow 22 December 2015 16: 58 New
      0
      But there is already no milk, no eggs, no bacon. And they certainly would not have been given ....
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 22 December 2015 18: 29 New
        0
        And the Taman Peninsula in documents instead of Crimean is really an interesting find.
    13. Uran
      Uran 22 December 2015 21: 28 New
      0
      what are these vile Ukrainian in power
    14. Rezident007
      Rezident007 22 December 2015 22: 27 New
      0
      Bismarck to help: "" There is nothing more vile and disgusting than the so-called "Ukrainians"! This rabble, brought up by the Poles from the most heinous scum of the Russian people (killers, careerists, reptiles before the power of the intelligentsia), is ready to kill their own father and mother for power and a profitable place!

      These geeks are ready to tear apart their fellow tribesmen, and not even for the sake of profit, but for the sake of satisfying their base instincts, there is nothing sacred for them, betrayal is the norm of life for them, they are wretched by the mind, malicious, envious, cunning with a special cunning. These nonhumans, have absorbed all the worst and basest things from the Russians, Poles, and Austrians, for good qualities in their soul there was no place left.

      Most of all they hate their benefactors, those who have done them good and are ready to grovel in every way before the powers that be. They’re not adapted to anything and can only do primitive work, they could never create their own state, many countries drove them like a ball throughout Europe, slavish instincts have eaten into them so much that they covered their whole essence with disgusting ulcers "
      1. Qubi
        Qubi 23 December 2015 14: 07 New
        0
        Are you sure Bismarck?
  2. Koronik
    Koronik 21 December 2015 06: 43 New
    +2
    "At the same time, the Ukrainian media are indignant not only with the" probable "deliveries of the installations, but also with the fact that Siemens allegedly indicates in the documents that the installations were not delivered to the Crimea, but to the Taman Peninsula."
    "The ice has broken - gentlemen of the jury!"
    1. andranick
      andranick 21 December 2015 07: 13 New
      +6
      Quote: Koronik
      "The ice has broken - gentlemen of the jury!"
      Yes, there was no ice between Siemens and Russia. They sent all these sanctions to the forest a year and a half ago and put a large bolt on them. Business, nothing personal.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 December 2015 06: 45 New
    +4
    The Ukrainian side expresses resentment at the fact that individual European companies are blindly observing compliance with anti-Russian sanctions.

    Well, Europe finally waited for "gratitude" for its sussing with Ukraine. They are still expressing dissatisfaction with them, and soon they will begin to dictate the conditions. Forward to the introduction of Ukraine to Europe.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 21 December 2015 10: 21 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They are still expressing dissatisfaction with them, and soon they will begin to dictate the conditions.



      Well so ... Please note - the Baltic states and Poland are already trying to dictate the terms of the EU ... Often this is slipping ... Well, Ukraine is trying to take a bad example, forgetting that they are at least nominally EU members, while Ukrainians are still level between heaven and earth ...

      In general, there are few problems with joining the EU, so they also raise tail-language to the hosts ... I don’t think that these speeches will add Ukraine the chances of becoming a full member of the EU ...
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 21 December 2015 10: 22 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They are still expressing dissatisfaction with them, and soon they will begin to dictate the conditions.


      The Valmano-Yatsenyuki imagined themselves to be more “Europeans” than the Europeans themselves, with the whole set of their rules and departments. Dreaming is not harmful, but fraught. bully
  4. asiat_61
    asiat_61 21 December 2015 06: 47 New
    +2
    It’s just that Germans can count to two, but there are no Ukrainians, Ukrainians knew how.
  5. bronik
    bronik 21 December 2015 06: 48 New
    +1
    The dog barks, and ... we are on the drum. Jealous of what ...
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 21 December 2015 06: 49 New
    +3
    What, dill, did not give you jackals the massacre in the Crimea to arrange? Look down at the corners, the Germans are by no means stupid and the sanctions will be canceled by an “explicit” order. Business and insanity do not mate.
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 21 December 2015 06: 49 New
    12
    Who first got up, that and slippers (C).
    You can scream, sing songs and dance, the sense of this will be zero. It is said on the Taman Peninsula, then so be it. The Germans (unlike the Frau Chancellor) are not completely crazy, trying to make money where they are offered it. And sanctions should be hidden in your pocket on time, when it is not at all necessary to demonstrate EU unity.
    1. midivan
      midivan 21 December 2015 08: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: inkass_98
      Who first got up, that and slippers (

      who gets up before everyone else? male organ, rooster and deputy - fun, organ po.ss.at, cock to sing. zam-fun cars warm wink
  8. meriem1
    meriem1 21 December 2015 06: 50 New
    +4
    Dreamed at Svidomo. So. And they’ll show off, but nothing good. And Germany ... She does her job tightly. And Nord Stream 2 will be. Let the Poles and Ukrainians buy gas from the Bundesah. Ukraine also pays for the transit of pschek.
  9. Cananecat
    Cananecat 21 December 2015 06: 51 New
    +3
    Ukrainian side expresses indignation over

    And what only expresses? what Weak to punish the Germans? fool
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 21 December 2015 10: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: Canecat
      Weak to punish the Germans?



      No, not weak. Tomorrow, the former Ukraine will cease to lend to Germany. Then the Germans will feel the power of the wrath of the former Ukraine in their own skin. angry
  10. Belarus
    Belarus 21 December 2015 06: 54 New
    +3
    Ha ha ha ha can't laughing .Germans nervously smoke aside. Who is Ukraine or 404 and who are Germans.I propose that the Kiev regime urgently impose sanctions against Germany and block all accounts in Ukraine, if any.Oh laughed ha ha ha
  11. alex-cn
    alex-cn 21 December 2015 06: 54 New
    +2
    Any sanctions can be circumvented, if there was a desire ... But it definitely exists in Europe, no one wants to lose our market.
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 21 December 2015 06: 55 New
    +2
    Given that the economic situation in Ukraine is not sugar, dill is interested in attracting attention. Here and squeal. As regards sanctions, one thing can be said, the West could not have done anything more useful for Russia. The issues that have been hanging for decades due to the resistance of corrupt and pro-Western officials and politicians are now resolved fairly quickly and systematically. It seems that the leaders of leading Western countries have finally understood what kind of puddle they got into because of their position towards Russia in Ukraine, but they still don’t know how to get out of this mud without getting dirty.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 07: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: sl22277
      they still don’t know how to get out of this mud without getting dirty.


      To their horror, they realized that you can get out of this dirt only with the loss of position, but you will never be able to launder yourself!
  13. alfa19638
    alfa19638 21 December 2015 06: 56 New
    +1
    I believe Ukrainians should impose sanctions against Germany and cry in the vest of their godfather - Biden.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 21 December 2015 07: 06 New
      +2
      Sanctions are painful, the Germans will have to go from fat to fat again laughing
      1. midivan
        midivan 21 December 2015 07: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Observer 33
        Sanctions are painful, the Germans will have to go from fat to fat again laughing

        Merkel BEFORE! laughing
  14. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 21 December 2015 06: 56 New
    +4
    no, all the same they are interesting, Ukrainians. If they have stolen their industry because of hatred of Russia, they think that Germany will follow their path? Right now!
    And yet, why do not they protest the United States over the purchase by the states of the Russian Federation of rocket engines? SS, probably.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 07: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      And yet, why do not they protest the United States over the purchase by the states of the Russian Federation of rocket engines


      The Americans have already exploded one rediddish Russian RDshka, so kakly and stuck their tongue in the ass (only it is not clear whose?)
  15. knn54
    knn54 21 December 2015 06: 57 New
    0
    Reproach to "Man of the Year"?
  16. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 21 December 2015 07: 01 New
    +2
    Well in Germany, then yapping at you "overpower", not mature enough laughing Even on Siemens separately ... They are not “fraternal” people, in which case you will be satisfied with such a “foreign help” laughing Fools! We speak Germany, we mean the EU! laughing
  17. pvv113
    pvv113 21 December 2015 07: 04 New
    +3
    ready to purchase Russian Gazprom from a German company.

    Why not buy domestic? After all, in Samara, similar designs of NK were previously produced.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 07: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: pvv113
      After all, in Samara, similar designs of NK were previously produced.


      Russia does not yet know how to produce gas turbines of such power, and NK (generally an aircraft engine) was the basis for gas pumping units.
      Another two years of sanctions - and Russia would be able to master the production of such turbines.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 December 2015 10: 00 New
        0
        We still have how they can do gas turbine http://www.npo-saturn.ru/?sat=70
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 21 December 2015 09: 50 New
      +1
      Ours may do it, but when? About two years later, three ..? And these will be delivered in a few weeks, after payment. And one more thing, a gas turbine power plant was built at the VChNGKM field, and it was said that our analogues are more expensive, probably because of the unit assembly. And also bought Siemens. But I do not claim that this is reliable infa, because everything was at the level of rumors.
      1. devastator
        devastator 22 December 2015 12: 21 New
        0
        There really is Siemens, runs on associated gas. It seems to be a voltage of 6 kV, it was planned to switch to 30 kV, but I do not know how it ended.
        Siemens actually makes "boxed" generation solutions - bring, assemble, run, operate. It is possible that we can do no worse, but, probably, each project and product is individual, one-time. Naturally, it will turn out more expensive and longer.
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 December 2015 07: 04 New
    0
    What do you mean?
    After all, Ukraine will soon have a visa-free regime.
    She’s been five minutes away as “Tse Europa”.
    And she imposed a moratorium on us.
    And in general, America itself means it,
    and to my beloved (so far) wife, much is allowed and forgiven.
  19. nivander
    nivander 21 December 2015 07: 04 New
    +1
    We at the ECB are building a plant for the production of titanium plates for Boeing at an accelerated pace. Moreover, Meatelka is a shareholder of this same Boeing and he is not shy about visiting the construction site with inspections-- this is American corruption
  20. Mihail55
    Mihail55 21 December 2015 07: 05 New
    +4
    Merkel, etc. come and go, and Simens since 1847. thriving!
  21. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 December 2015 07: 06 New
    +1
    Kiev needs to impose sanctions on Germany, and not ask for more money from them.
  22. press officer
    press officer 21 December 2015 07: 11 New
    +4
    Quote: Horst78
    And Siemens are going to produce their gas turbines in Perm


    Amendment comrades: Perm and Perm, this is only spoken for mitigation) and Perm is written without a soft sign! hi We are a big land (the one millionth according to both residents and territories, learn how to speak and write correctly about us!) yes hi
    Yes, and this will be done in our city, because there is a plant just in this part, so everything native-Russian will be. good
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 21 December 2015 08: 46 New
      0
      Quote: press attache
      Press Attachment (4) RU Today, 07: 11

      Quote: Horst78
      And Siemens are going to produce their gas turbines in Perm


      Amendment comrades: Perm and Perm, this is only spoken for mitigation) and Perm is written without a soft sign! hi We are a big land (the one millionth according to both residents and territories, learn how to speak and write correctly about us!) yes hi
      Yes, and this will be done in our city, because there is a plant just in this part, so everything native-Russian will be. good

      I confess, however, the jamb turned out crying hi
  23. zlideny
    zlideny 21 December 2015 07: 17 New
    0
    Siemens does everything right according to the principle, dogs bark, and the caravan goes on,
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 December 2015 07: 18 New
    0
    Relievers, said in Taman, means in Taman. And you should not yap at Germany. The master's boot is heavy.
  25. 205577
    205577 21 December 2015 07: 22 New
    +3
    Personally, I am simply not outraged by the yapping of UkroSMI, but by the decision to purchase TURBINES !!! Abroad.
    Is that yours, microelectronics ?!
    Are we here too behind 50 years?
    May be enough?
    We report on a qualitatively new jet engine for aircraft based on the same turbine, and then we buy turbines in Germany?
    Is the engine exactly ours, or is it also German in fact?
    Or again you will be in the ears .... that there is no time, but the Germans are already ready?
    Bullied already!
    Why will foreign equipment be purchased for domestic enterprises ?!
    Only the reports are victorious, that’s what we are, but in reality “I evaluate the work of the government as satisfactory” and we buy the power cable with turbines abroad.
    The turbine is not a microchip - they must do it themselves.
    And I don’t need la la about liberalists, Gazprom, as far as I remember - it’s hard to suspect liberalism, then it’s not its own turbines, or are we cutting grandmothers?
    1. midivan
      midivan 21 December 2015 08: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: 205577
      And I don’t need la la about liberalists, Gazprom, as far as I remember - it’s hard to suspect liberalism, then it’s not its own turbines, or are we cutting grandmothers?

      so purely our little brothers tease yes whose power in a single-shaft version is 253 MW. 400 already exists, by the summer they promise 800, and before that if the memory does not change, they delivered something around 1000, but how much does Crimea need? and I wonder how much one turbine costs? 4.2 billion rubles of hard-won contract, donated 3 billion dollars; it turns out not such a large amount, although our factories would not have burned a pocket, but the conclusion of an auto mechanic is such a trolling as pure water! laughing request otherwise I can’t say, well, the turbines will beat themselves off sometime, but if Simmens delivers it installs and starts up I’m silent laughing gee gee gee, it's them purely for sakashvili
    2. pts-m
      pts-m 21 December 2015 14: 30 New
      +1
      here setuevina is easier. most likely they want to buy in exchange for permission to build the remaining branches of the northern stream.
      1. midivan
        midivan 21 December 2015 16: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: PTS-m
        here setuevina is easier. most likely they want to buy in exchange for permission to build the remaining branches of the northern stream.

        smile Yes, screw the faucet a little, like it will not withstand the load due to the decay of the flow, -Never do not ask for anything. They themselves will offer and they will give-Woland smile
  26. Riv
    Riv 21 December 2015 07: 39 New
    +1
    Nothing personal, Ukrainians. This is a business ...
  27. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 21 December 2015 07: 41 New
    0
    In Kiev, they can declare anything.))))
  28. Mihail55
    Mihail55 21 December 2015 07: 43 New
    +5
    Is Rybinsk weak for us? And there is an institute and engines did for aircraft ..
    It seems that even now Gazprom has begun to work. On TV, joyful reports. Unemployment is coming, especially in small towns
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 December 2015 08: 33 New
      11
      Quote: Michael55
      Is Rybinsk weak for us? And there is an institute and engines did for aircraft ..
      It seems that even now Gazprom has begun to work. On TV, joyful reports. Unemployment is coming, especially in small towns

      Mikhail, I welcome the fellow countryman, Saturn is already producing all kinds of gas turbine engines, now we are mastering the marine theme, by 2018 we should go on a series, and these GTU should be let out by Perm. With respect hi
  29. anfil
    anfil 21 December 2015 07: 43 New
    +4
    In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia


    The Judah medal, created in a single copy in the 1709 year, is perhaps the most mysterious medal in the history of the Russian award system.

    Unusual weight of the award - 10 pounds. The Russian pound at that time was equal to 409,512 grams, so the medal weighed more than 4 kilograms, and together with the chain of two pounds - 5 kilograms. However, this weight, as well as the material from which the medal is made, is fully consistent with the realities of the life of the “patron” of the award - Judah, who betrayed the Savior for 30 pieces of silver. The medal, not only with an image and a legend, but with its essence, was supposed to remind of the price that Judas took as a betrayal. As follows from the weight of the medal, Peter proceeded from the calculation that one piece of silver is equal to 136,3 grams. This is exactly the 1 Roman liter (136,44 grams) used in the Roman Empire during the time of Judah.


    At 404, Mazepa’s laurels haunt.


    The insignia of the President of Ukraine - the cross of Ivan Mazepa - was established by decree of Petro Poroshenko on December 1 of 2015 of the year.
    The new award is presented for a significant contribution to the revival of the national cultural, artistic, spiritual, architectural, military and historical heritage, as well as for services to the state-building, diplomatic, scientific, educational and charitable activities. The first prize was received by the director of the documentary film "Winter on Fire" Evgeny Afineevsky.


    In 1775, the decree of Empress Catherine II destroyed the Zaporizhzhya Sich, as expressed in the decree, "as a godly and unnatural community, not suitable for the extension of the human race."


    How not to weed weeds, they will all spawn new sprouts to give.
  30. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 21 December 2015 07: 47 New
    +2
    They say that a toad will download huge sizes in Kiev and is looking for someone to strangle !!!
  31. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 21 December 2015 08: 01 New
    0
    Yes, there long ago throughout the Khokhloma HORSES WHITE WHITE DOWNLOAD NOT ONLY TOAD.
  32. Para bellum
    Para bellum 21 December 2015 08: 10 New
    +1
    All up to play! Schaz Ukrainians will stop the Germans from the Russian invasion of capture.
  33. 23424636
    23424636 21 December 2015 08: 16 New
    +1
    it’s time for the guys from the most corrupt office of the West to slip in the bucket and earn money for themselves, and kickbacks from Siemens will please idiots from power machines whose brains are left only to buy and not to produce
  34. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 21 December 2015 08: 18 New
    +1
    In this situation, Kiev can put Moscow a pig in only one way - to take and buy from Siemens a whole order at a double price lol
    PS: I just noticed that the USSR flag was missing from me ... it's a shame crying
  35. S. TALIN
    S. TALIN 21 December 2015 08: 23 New
    +2
    And we ourselves can not do such settings?
    Must buy in Germany?
  36. 1976AG
    1976AG 21 December 2015 08: 34 New
    +3
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    In Kiev, declare that Germany violates the sanctions regime against Russia
    and you punish Germany, it’s milk, don’t let fat! wassat


    Yes Yes! Now, not the United States world gendarme, but Ukraine! Now Ukraine will teach everyone how to live properly. They did not expect?
  37. Zebus
    Zebus 21 December 2015 08: 40 New
    +1
    Again zrada ...
  38. prv1313
    prv1313 21 December 2015 08: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: S. TALIN
    And we ourselves can not do such settings?
    Must buy in Germany?

    Simins himself destroyed the competitor's Electric Power. There are no gas turbines of large capacity in Russia
  39. theadenter
    theadenter 21 December 2015 08: 55 New
    +1
    Beautiful thing in the photo.
    But the point is not even the beauty and impressiveness of the device, and not even the benefit of its acquisition.
    Most importantly, Crimea is beginning to be more and more explicitly recognized, at least at the corporate level.
  40. Mihail55
    Mihail55 21 December 2015 09: 07 New
    0
    Quote: 79807420129
    Mikhail, I welcome the fellow countryman, Saturn is already producing all kinds of gas turbine engines, now we are mastering the marine theme, by 2018 we should go on a series, and these GTU should be let out by Perm. With respect

    Good morning, fellow countryman! With the "good" weather! smile Thanks for the tip! I am glad that there is still something else ...
  41. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 21 December 2015 09: 37 New
    +3
    Kiev has already submitted materials to Russia to the European court, and it hasn’t worked. Now he began to collect materials for Germany. Ukraine now has a lot of work.
  42. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2015 09: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Horst78
    Even so. Do we have a lot of our gas turbines?

    and is this normal? we can produce almost everything, but the native government is stifling, it is time for SMERS to intervene.
  43. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    Instead of working on their own, they prevent others from working (and earning). This is Ukrainian modus vivendi. am
  44. midashko
    midashko 21 December 2015 09: 46 New
    +2
    Well, let the sanctions impose against Germany and Sienens in particular.
  45. Gray 43
    Gray 43 21 December 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    Ukrainians could take revenge on the Germans ....... restoring all the destroyed monuments to Soviet soldiers)))) I know, cruelly, but otherwise
  46. morpogr
    morpogr 21 December 2015 10: 20 New
    +1
    Again, the great and the ancients no one asked permission, and strive to deceive the poor. The poor fellows will not understand in any way that words are words, but money doesn’t smell and they like counting. winked
  47. Voltsky
    Voltsky 21 December 2015 10: 55 New
    +2
    And since when did the burghers begin to ask some blissful permission to supply their equipment ?! These savages tried to pay off their hryvnia with us, and they behaved aggressively after refusing to shout “we’ll banish you and all of Europe soon”, when I didn’t see this, of course there were only two of them, but there is an opinion that where they came from; there are many more.
  48. Obolensky
    Obolensky 21 December 2015 11: 59 New
    +2
    Eternally, Ukraine does not go about its business!
    Get out of their masters - the United States ask about how they violate the sanctions regime. Well, or look at yourself in the mirror! Germany, like any other country, is not obliged to report to any Ukraine. As, in fact, no country in the world is obliged to report to another country for its actions in the economic, military or other plan.
  49. rus-5819
    rus-5819 21 December 2015 13: 39 New
    0
    It is reported that we are talking about the readiness of Siemens to sell gas turbine units to Russia

    Well, they are so treacherous!
  50. Chulman
    Chulman 21 December 2015 14: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Black Colonel
    The state debt of dill can return the products GTU "Motorsich" as an option.

    A better territory!