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PR and EP - twins, or How Ukraine is similar to Russia?

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PR and EP - twins, or How Ukraine is similar to Russia?The processes that concern Russian society today as a manifestation of the crisis are quite understandable. But, as in any situation, there are certain nuances that make you wonder whether you want it or not.


It made me think about some similarity in the actions of the above political associations. "Party of Regions" and "United Russia". Indeed, these parties have a lot in common. Starting from the actual status of the "party of power", ending with actions, after which the term "former" is applied to the Ukrainian colleagues. Former deputies and officials of the former party of regions.

What did I actually find together with a group of like-minded people from Ukraine?

Go back to the 2012 year. When the Maidan and its consequences were born. But it was born precisely when the PR won the elections to the parliament. Yes, such a total superiority, like the EP "regionals" did not have, however, their capacity was enough to send the Tymoshenko team to resign.

The fact that the original acts of the "regionals" and led to the fact that the people began to openly express discontent is indisputable. Only the one who believes that the Maidan was organized by the "pravoseki" will argue. Alas.

Maidan 2013 of the year was economic. At its very beginning, politics did not even smell. The 2012-2013 years were years of hefty tax increases. Up to the point that they tried to impose on 13% extortion transfers from abroad (consider - from Russia). With a general decrease in the rate of income tax, excise taxes and state duties increased. Plus, the introduction of an advance income tax system played into the hands of those who Maidan. For there were many dissatisfied.

We have already forgotten how maidan started in 2013. And it began with the requirements of a purely economic plan. And gentlemen such as Tyagnibok and Lyashko clearly said "get out!" It was about completely different problems than the problem of language and "klyutyh ..." Everyone was replayed in the course of the play by the production directors. The result is known.

Was the first maidan manifestation? Definitely not. Speeches against outright lawlessness of corrupt officials and government representatives were all 2013 year. More precisely, the whole second half. A start was made by the events in Vradiyevka. The culmination was Kiev. The people really began to rise against the lawlessness, and they were actively supported by the journalistic corps.

Although, to be honest, Yanukovych, and his patrician party members, did a lot for the Ukrainians to rise. And more was not done. Who, tell me, prevented Yanukovych to disperse (again, I note) Maidan, and then go out to the people, ask for forgiveness, demonstratively plant a couple of highly presumptuous princes on the ground, drive out a couple of ministers, launch several social programs ), to start fighting corruption is real, and not in words. What would not forgive?

Parallel events have a place to be with us. It is not necessary to prove that corruption in Russia already sometimes sometimes takes ugly dimensions. Everything is up to date. The only question is one. If you do not take measures to curb the outrages that are happening on the ground, there will be forces that will willingly take advantage of the situation.

The freshest example is the "strike" of truckers. Strange strike. Fifty trucks in two parking lots. The rest parted. The rest need to work. Despite the fact that "Plato" no one will cancel.

One of the participants of the protest rally, Yevgeny Staritsyn, told media representatives that the presidential statement can be interpreted in the vein that none of the government structures intend to cancel this system of fees, therefore its specific future raises questions. “According to the president, I remained unemployed. My children will now be hungry, my wife does not work, there is no work. One way out remains after such a presidential message: I will come, buy soap, a rope, I will put the children on first, then myself.”

Peculiar approach. Comment is not worth it, just go to the site http://ati.su/ and see how much truckers cost today. Words about hungry children seem somewhat ... insincere. Yes, if you sit in the parking lot and do not work, then you might think about hungry children. But for some reason it seems to me that the Staritsyn family is all right. Some force will not let his family die of hunger. And this power has the opportunity to take care of the strike participants in 49.

Let's just say the power is not very powerful yet. But the Right Sector also once seemed a bunch of nationalist clowns. December is not yet 2013.

On the other hand, protesting dalnoboev can be understood. By and large, they were not to blame for the burden they imposed on them. Indeed, thousands of trucks ride around Europe and America in the same way. But the roads are not the talk of the town.

And the recipe is simple: if in Russia you spend 90% of the planned amounts for road repairs (10% are stolen, but this is already a national tradition), and not 40-50%, then you will not have to strangle anyone with taxes. After all, they are strangling by and large not truckers, they are already 15% in their prices in their rates. They stifle us, those who will buy products that have risen in price by exactly 15%.

Who is to blame - also known. This year in Voronezh, we have the case of the head of the Voronezh Regional Highway Administration, Alexander Trubnikov, who was detained while receiving a bribe in 1,25 million rubles. And during a search in the garage, he found in boxes about 140 million rubles. This is an example. An example of an ordinary official, of course, a member of the "ER".





Strange, yes? Officials throughout Russia take such amounts, and we pay what they stole, we. Or maybe the calculation? Until they yell at rallies - you can sleep, or rather, steal easy. And if the usual regional leader rowed so beautifully, what was going on in the upper echelons? One can only guess.

I'm all for what? And the fact that the grain Maidan in Ukraine sank into a very fertile soil. In the country, however, such a crisis, as we have, was not. Only scheduled. But it turned out. Will you say that there are no "guardians" around Russia who want to do the same?

Yes, in Russia there seems to be no personalities like Tyagnibok, Avakov, Turchinov. This is a plus. But this absolutely does not mean that the “one” should step on the “regional” rake. And to continue with success the work of labor in the field of personal enrichment begun over the years. Buy exclusive cars, carry your bodies on VIP airplanes, write out multi-thousand premiums for yourself on holidays. In the country, they say, the crisis. And to please the people with new taxes and fees. I don’t know where it’s like, but in the Voronezh region entrepreneurs were “pleased” with the fact that they raised “imputation” from 1 in January by 15%.

How many really functioning centers and societies in the country are ready to arrange Maidan? How many people in the country are really ready to support the protest? Enough to start thinking. For it is after time thinking that the time for action comes.

Yanukovych and the company did not want to think. The result was today's Ukraine. And the former comrades-in-arms of Yanukovych in the party feel quite comfortable in other party blocs. In Russia, everything is relatively calm.

Today makes us think about how similar the situation is today in Russia with the situation in Ukraine in 2013. And conclusions need to be done today. Tomorrow there may not be enough fiery speeches, because you will not connect the duroscope to the refrigerator. And the demonstrative "shootings" of individual governors or officials will not calm anyone down. Because the majority understands that they planted far from everyone who would be worth it.

Ukrainian Maidan in the past. And do not forget that it was not only scumbags with chains and bats who went to him. They just came later when the main thing was done. Maidan in Russia at one of the forks of the future. The future, which will determine not only power, but also the people. I would not like to see in the Russian Independence not representatives of some kind of opposition, but ordinary people, driven to despair.

After all, the most disgusting thing about this is that the bulk of United Russia will instantly evaporate - who is in a certain direction and who is not. In the house, or apartment, away from the fire. How it made a lot of their colleagues in Ukraine.

Dear our United Russia (and you really do cost us dear), isn't it time to think? We do not want Maidan. And you?

Comment portal "Russian Planet"

In essence, the article is correct, because, firstly, the PR and the EP are parties created by the nomenclature and serve only the interests of the state, but not the people, this does not mean that it is bad or good, it is just a fact. Another question is that often these interests do not coincide; here it is already necessary to look at who is the beneficiary of those or other interests. Since the power is heterogeneous, and lobbying of certain groups in power can be either benevolent or destructive for the country. Secondly, paradoxically, the two parties have fundamental differences - Putin has never stood at the head of the UR, he gave UR ​​the right to use his authority to win some support from the population, but formally he is not the party’s leader. Therefore, now there is no direct association between the president and the parliamentary majority. Maidan in this situation is hardly possible, just one simulacrum in the form of EP will be replaced by another, for example, in the form of ONF.
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  1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 28 December 2015 06: 56 New
    +1
    Novel, I want to answer with the folk wisdom "for that and sweetness in order to live to their best!" And the result is Maidans and riots.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 28 December 2015 07: 47 New
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      I know at least one member of "United Russia" who unofficially criticizes the general line of the party, but does not leave it.
      Z. S. According to his statements, he had better go into the Yabloko.
      1. Dimon-chik-79
        Dimon-chik-79 28 December 2015 08: 24 New
        +2
        but who does not know this chatterbox whose people you see are to blame for all troubles
      2. Sura
        Sura 28 December 2015 08: 57 New
        +1
        And, how do you get out, if there are such opportunities, here about Udmurtia http://ok.ru/video/64766335388651-1
        1. Sura
          Sura 29 December 2015 08: 08 New
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          Yeah, they’re minus, though his eyes hurt, Volkov over the 17 years of rule ruined the whole republic, planted the same thieves as he and we still live in poverty, releasing a large amount of weapons together and extracting oil.
    2. AFS
      AFS 28 December 2015 11: 14 New
      +3

      It seems that now all the personnel of the Edra are flowing into the Popular Front. Rebranding ......
  2. samarin1969
    samarin1969 28 December 2015 06: 59 New
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    A view from the Crimea (I can compare): It was not only total mega-corruption that led to the Maidan. Society in Ukraine was oriented towards Europe. Under Yanukovych (!), The campaign "for the association with the EU" reached individual school subjects. The regionals' newspapers spent kilometers of pages about the scarecrows of the "taiga union" and the "shale revolution." And when the general psychosis under the blue flags with asterisks reached its climax ... Mykola Yanych Azarov pulled the "stop-crane" - "the stop-crane broke."
    As for the rest, "regionals" and "United Russia" are distinguishable only "in details" am
    The article is more than relevant. To the author - "+". (Vradiyevka was really a trial Maidan).
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 28 December 2015 08: 24 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      The article is more than relevant.
      - Basically, it is striking that Putin "does not see everything described at close range"!
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 28 December 2015 09: 10 New
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        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Basically, it is striking that Putin "does not see everything described at close range"!

        I am begging you! He sees everything, but ... "I have no other power for you."
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 28 December 2015 11: 12 New
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          Quote: Ami du peuple
          I beg of you! He sees everything, but ...

          I also agree with you here and it seems to me that all this suits him. What is worth not just a desire to plant bribe takers like Serdyukov and Co., not a desire to conduct an investigation on Seagull, etc.
          With its power structure, Russia is similar to Ukraine, it’s just that everything rests on Putin’s authority, and he doesn’t see any replacements in the political space. So, unfortunately, Russia is not immune to the fate of Ukraine in terms of revolutions. Plus, the social problems that have begun to increase in the last year or two, as well as the unwillingness of the authorities to fight corruption, leads to excitement and indignation of the people sad
          Personally, my opinion.
      2. Geosun
        Geosun 28 December 2015 09: 30 New
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        Why doesn’t he see? When during a teleconference, Putin was asked about dependence on oil, He directly said that he constantly said to businessmen, build a technological plant. And businessmen in response: give us a better well in concession.
        So it is with bribe takers, well, you remove one, the other will come the same. And do not live in a fairy tale, the other will be the same. The ideology in society must change; bribes must become unacceptable. bribes, because 90% themselves offer, not extort, and often threaten.
        And of course, law enforcement officers must work honestly, only few people want to work honestly. There is only one conclusion: the law must be respected and be one for all. And the president, there is nothing to do with it, he is engaged in other issues.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 28 December 2015 13: 36 New
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          Quote: Geosun
          if you remove one, the other will come the same. And do not live in a fairy tale, the other will be the same. The ideology in society must change
          That is, you are suggesting "do not clean"?
          And as for ideology - yes, I agree. Although under socialism, very often bribery existed. BUT: who will change the ideology? And who is responsible for everything that is happening in the country? PERSONALLY!
          And the president, there is nothing to do with it, he is engaged in other issues.
          Here you are wrong. Read the Constitution.
          I agree with many in the article, I would like to argue with this:
          Therefore, now there is no direct association between the president and the parliamentary majority.
          This association exists because it suggests itself: "Putin-Medvedev: an inseparable tandem. Medvedev - United Russia, which means that United Russia is Putin's party" ("Firm" serving the President). Many who do not really listen and watch generally consider Putin a member of United Russia, or its head. hi
          1. Glukashin
            Glukashin 28 December 2015 17: 06 New
            +6
            I absolutely agree with you. Putin and Edro are synonyms in the eyes of ordinary people. We say Putin - we mean EP, we say EP - we mean Putin.
        2. Glukashin
          Glukashin 28 December 2015 17: 01 New
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          Well, the president, it seems we have nothing to do with it! Like a failure, it has nothing to do with it. But as an achievement, he climbs out of every iron. Ready to cut each ribbon, hand over each medal.
          Do not say (ruffle) it is necessary - build business factories! - and create economic conditions through targeted policies.
          And your conclusion - "the law must be observed and be the same for all" - after 15 years of Putin's Vertical looks like a mockery.
    2. Hardy
      Hardy 28 December 2015 10: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: samarin1969

      As for the rest, "regionals" and "United Russia" are distinguishable only "in details" am

      So the people are one, with a single culture, history ... although they are called differently)))
      In Soviet times, socialism was in many countries, and life even inside the USSR in different republics was very different, since a lot also depended on the people.
      As Chernomyrdin said: "Whatever public organization we create, it turns out the CPSU."
      As for total corruption, it is at the heart of the entire Western economic system. And "struggle" with it is a form of competition among corrupt officials. Our politicians added only national flavor to this phenomenon)))
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 28 December 2015 22: 07 New
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        Quote: Hardy
        As for total corruption, (...) "fighting" against it is a form of competition among corrupt officials
        Well said! good +++!
    3. alexander1
      alexander1 28 December 2015 13: 27 New
      +3
      If almost the main reason for the Maidan was dissatisfaction with the economy and the PR, then why, in the current state of affairs, there are no Maidan, not revolution in Kiev! Western orientation is simply the result of increased propaganda by the organizers of the Maidan! And the Maidan itself became possible only with financing and good organization, like everything that happens in Ukraine after!
  3. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 07: 09 New
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    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If you direct them "correctly", they will gladly come out to the square and will stand there for a very long time!
    I have a lot of friends just after the movie "The Seagull" became ardent oppositionists.
    1. larand
      larand 28 December 2015 08: 09 New
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      Quote: chikenous59
      I think that there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If you direct them "correctly", they will gladly come out to the square and will stand there for a very long time! ...

      The EP itself has already counted the dissatisfied - at least 22 million. But in principle it seems that all the Eref authorities, fostered by Yeltsin, lost, or perhaps did not have, a conscience. Banknotes of bribes are measured in kilograms and boxes, they are not afraid of anyone, everything is bought. If they grab someone, it is because of the redistribution of property or power, and not according to the law. Power structures do not have authority among the people and can destroy not only themselves (and to hell with them), but also the country.
    2. Bespectacled
      Bespectacled 28 December 2015 11: 01 New
      +9
      The problem is that everyone knows everything, but cannot do anything ... Immediately the hypocritical "patriots" will declare you a traitor and a renegade. And those who can do not. Apparently it suits them.
      As an example, who is Chubais known to all of Russia, even to the last homeless person from the heating main ... Directly and without unnecessary verbiage - the BOP. High ranking. Looking.
      To the direct question about the redhead, the GDP pours, rants, refers to the rule of law ... Bullshit. Its not abandoning. There are many such examples ... But for Kvachkov, a couple of crossbows were enough to hide the colonel behind bars.
      What is it about? Selling power protects itself and does not allow dissent, while continuing to even steal the undisguised theft and hiding behind patriotic slogans. This rotten numbness of the authorities disgusted to disgust.
      I think they have something to fear, because enough discontent among the people has accumulated, or they have already become so dumb from permissiveness that they are divorced from reality.
    3. Yars
      Yars 28 December 2015 20: 32 New
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      Quote: chikenous59
      I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If you direct them "correctly", they will gladly come out to the square and will stand there for a very long time!
      I have a lot of friends just after the movie "The Seagull" became ardent oppositionists.

      will stand only for the money, as in the Maidan! In Ukraine today, life has deteriorated dozens of times! Explain why? Yes, because no one pays now! And God forbid such a thing will happen in Russia, today's events on Ukriane will seem like a children's matinee, the Caucasus will immediately flare up! There are a lot of problems in any state, and they are solved by decades and, as history shows, revolution has never led to good! Independence require only lazy people who do not want to do a damn thing and they want money from the sky to fall and liberals to please their Western masters!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 28 December 2015 23: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: YARS
        And God forbid, this will happen in Russia, today's events in Ukraine will seem to you a children's matinee, the Caucasus will immediately flare up!
        Listen, stop singing along with our pseudo-patriotic "talking heads"! "To protest nizza-I - immediately light up-will-flow-while-at-I!" .. We are already rolling with might and main - and we are not only allowed to do this, but also pushed!
        Who and why? You yourself say:
        Quote: YARS
        The problems in any state are completely complete, and they are solved by decades.
        The problem is that for more than 10 years, INSTEAD OF ACTIONS, THE VISIBILITY OF FUNNY ACTIVITIES IS CREATED! With the obligatory cheerful statements that everything, they say, is "for the good of the people"! And this is done by none other than our "native" Russian government, the overwhelming majority of which are MEMBERS! .. wassat EdRa. And which - it is already quite obvious - has no desire to develop its own economy! ..
        But why? IM themselves quite enough income from oil and gas needles. And the rest ... well, let them take loans from OUR banks, buy imported goods. They are! "What else do you want, rams?"
        Quote: YARS
        as history shows, revolution has never led to good!
        Do you know the story well?
        Not a single revolution, of those that were made NATURALLY (ie not "colored"), did not lead to a regression of world politics or economics. On the contrary: each such event (not to be confused with "popular riots", the "ZK" uprising, etc.!) gave a tangible impetus to the development of the social order, economy, international relations! It's like "shaking off the dust", peeling off the old shabby tiles - and sticking stylish modern ones! And to her - furniture, a bath, a brand new mixer ...
        The revolution of 1917 entailed the emergence of the world Superpower - the USSR, and showed the conceptual possibility of building a REALLY popular DEMOCRATIC state, with public ownership of all the wealth of the country!
        And the fact that the USSR is no longer speaks not at all that the concept was not viable! This indicates the inability of the elected government to exercise competent and consistent governance of this country!
        Quote: YARS
        Only lazy people who don’t want to do a damn demand the Maidan and they want money to fall from the sky
        You obviously didn’t even try to do business, if you say so. On a salary, I suppose, in a public institution?
        1. Yars
          Yars 6 January 2016 21: 49 New
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          typical liberal delirium, like you are the "pseudo-patriots" who are trying to push society to revolution and, subsequently, to civil war! The revolution of 1917 led to fratricide, and the fact that the USSR became a great power is EXCLUSIVELY the merit of Joseph Stalin, but not Lenin and Brunstein who were brought from Switzerland prepared to Russia!
      2. Yars
        Yars 6 January 2016 21: 50 New
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        Quote: YARS
        In Ukraine today, life has deteriorated dozens of times! Explain why? Yes

        In Ukraine today, life has deteriorated dozens of times! Explain why there is no revolution? Yes, because no one pays now ..........
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 22: 00 New
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          Quote: YARS
          Explain why there is no revolution?

          Since three basic Leninist principles have not been fulfilled:
          1. The tops cannot control in the old way - the inability of the ruling class to maintain its dominance unchanged. So far, the Ukrainian authorities can, albeit with difficulty managing, use the apparatus of violence in a full way.
          2. Niza do not want to live in the old way - a sharp aggravation above the ordinary need and calamities of the oppressed classes and their desire to change their lives for the better; With this criterion, they are all normal.
          3. A significant increase in the activity of the masses, attracted, both by the whole situation of the crisis, and by the "top" themselves, to an independent historical action. But no, the people are still showing "fatigue from revolutions." But here everything can change in a moment and radically
          Well, one more, not the main criterion of the "revolutionary situation" - the split of the ruling elite, is not yet deep enough.
  4. BLOND
    BLOND 28 December 2015 07: 24 New
    -8
    It’s hard to comment on the author regarding EP (I know little and laziness to study is not interesting to me)
    But about the PR and the prerequisites for Maidan 2013, the author wrote a lot of controversial, if not to call it rubbish.
    In no case do I defend Yanukovych and PR, but the author confuses the slogans under which the coup was carried out in Ukraine with the reasons ... And he does not notice the goals of the authors (and their owners) of the coup!
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 28 December 2015 07: 30 New
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      wanted to add ...
      we lost Ukraine, our country ...
      This should be a lesson, and first of all for the Russians - this should not be done!
  5. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 28 December 2015 07: 26 New
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    After all, the most disgusting thing in this is that the bulk of United Russia members will instantly evaporate, some in a certain direction and some not. To a house, or apartment, away from the fire. As many of their colleagues in Ukraine did.
    That's not in the eyebrow, but in the eye it says !!! A thousand pluses !!!!
    1. SSR
      SSR 28 December 2015 09: 10 New
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      Quote: astronom1973n
      After all, the most disgusting thing in this is that the bulk of United Russia members will instantly evaporate, some in a certain direction and some not. To a house, or apartment, away from the fire. As many of their colleagues in Ukraine did.
      That's not in the eyebrow, but in the eye it says !!! A thousand pluses !!!!

      We have one such Prokhinday molt to Spain and now has slowed down the pace and sealed up in the administration of M. Obl. How did they get the hoops ..... Some of the pearls of the tax system are worth it, and in fact they are guilty and have to pay (bills are blocked) and then you can prove in court that you weren’t and during that time, contracts, orders and delays were lost on salaries and bills. ...... I really start to boil ... And this talker 321 Manturov. S u to, where are the duties on the export of pigs ?!
      PS
      Production offices, who can go into dullness and who ... Closed (production companies) and at the same time we all had to pump from a height on the new rules for buying and selling currency ... And at the same time, none of ours grumble "sanctions", everyone is indignant only at our laws and our realities with officials, and as studies have shown, 1% of those in power do not own 50% of the wealth (money) in the Russian Federation, but 70% .... 30% are interestingly smeared over 140 million citizens, where it is thin and where it is generally zero. As a large child, I could tell individual gems of the city administration and officials ... I don’t want to get my hands dirty.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 28 December 2015 23: 48 New
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        Quote: SSR
        As a large child, I could tell some pearls of the city administration and officials ... I don’t want to dirty my hands.

        Ai-wai .. why didn't he turn to the "defenders" ?! There is such an office - ONF .. they say officials are afraid of it belay ! ..
        wassat
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 28 December 2015 09: 18 New
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      Quote: astronom1973n
      That's not in the eyebrow, but in the eye it says !!! A thousand pluses !!!!

      Why be surprised? A quarter of a century ago, the seventeen-million-strong CPSU was unable to resist the collapse of the Union, and its leaders led this collapse, overnight becoming free-market people, liberals and champions of "universal human values."
      If the current "United Russia" is somehow different from the then Communist Party, then only for the worse. As Chernomyrdin once said: "Whichever party is not in order, the CPSU still works."
    3. indeveral
      indeveral 28 December 2015 10: 55 New
      +5
      You know, if it’s blazing in Russia, then washing off may not help. In 20-30 the NKVD carried out stripping abroad. In the case of a bloody change of power in Russia, cleansing the runaways, I think it will be a national idea for a certain time. So, in the place of a unified pi..ov, I would think about my future, and the future of my children.
      1. Glukashin
        Glukashin 28 December 2015 17: 19 New
        +1
        Can they escape? They think so! But the irony of history lies in the fact that in revolutions former elites often rake people, and sometimes very sickly ones. And every time for some reason it happens "suddenly" for them.
      2. tank64rus
        tank64rus 28 December 2015 17: 36 New
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        They think that everything will go according to the Ukrainian scenario. They wanted to spit on the people and the state from a high bell tower. Their home is Londongrad, and here is the place for money laundering. Well, they believe that here they washed a gold coin and go home. The government must clean it up. What kind of professionals are these to the devil, if their whole work, especially of the liberal-economic bloc, is fortune-telling on oil. Oh, what could be the price of oil. Who awarded them academic titles and degrees - HSE. Likely it is necessary to invite the magician or the fortuneteller, it will be better. They do everything voluntarily or involuntarily, for the emergence of popular discontent. It is a pity, those who are supposed to not understand that this is very much like wrecking. It may be too late.
      3. tank64rus
        tank64rus 28 December 2015 17: 36 New
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        They think that everything will go according to the Ukrainian scenario. They wanted to spit on the people and the state from a high bell tower. Their home is Londongrad, and here is the place for money laundering. Well, they believe that here they washed a gold coin and go home. The government must clean it up. What kind of professionals are these to the devil, if their whole work, especially of the liberal-economic bloc, is fortune-telling on oil. Oh, what could be the price of oil. Who awarded them academic titles and degrees - HSE. Likely it is necessary to invite the magician or the fortuneteller, it will be better. They do everything voluntarily or involuntarily, for the emergence of popular discontent. It is a pity, those who are supposed to not understand that this is very much like wrecking. It may be too late.
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  6. fa2998
    fa2998 28 December 2015 07: 28 New
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    Quote: samarin1969
    As for the rest, "regionals" and "United Russia" are distinguishable only "in details"

    Our authorities need to think well about the future! People on the street are led not by "Western agents" and "the fifth column", but by the actions of the authorities! And no external successes, does not cancel failures inside the country. hi
  7. Dbnz
    Dbnz 28 December 2015 07: 32 New
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    Quote: chikenous59
    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If you direct them "correctly", they will gladly come out to the square and will stand there for a very long time!
    I have a lot of friends just after the movie "The Seagull" became ardent oppositionists.

    Well done, your friends, they held out for a long time - but after the film "Leviathan" they could have become ardent oppositionists. It's not in vain that John F. Tefft eats bread.
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    2. Glukashin
      Glukashin 28 December 2015 17: 26 New
      +3
      Yes of course! John F. Teft is probably the author of our Power Vertical. He covers Seagull with Vasilyeva, not otherwise. And here is the mayor of yet another regional center, who stole tens of millions, got as many as four years ... conditionally! Also Teft fussed?
      Americans, of course, are still "friends", you have to keep your ears open with them. But with our Vertical and enemies are not necessary, they are no worse to cope.
  8. Wildfox
    Wildfox 28 December 2015 07: 32 New
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    I put a minus article for two reasons:
    1. Maidan will not bring benefits !!! Those in power already know about the mood in society and problems, so don’t scare the EP if you haven’t. There are no solutions to problems in the article at all !!! It’s just an irresponsible person who can simply urge to screw up and smash the country!
    2. The author has honest campaign policies that grow on trees and beds, and not in the community next to him,
    Not a single name has sounded for whom he wants to change EP.


    I want to advise the Russians not as destructive as the Maidan. Vote in the elections for the Communist Party, and other parties. Try as much as possible to delay the electorate from United Russia, show political activity. We saw that one of the deputies is holding an open meeting with voters - just go and wait, even without slogans.
    Voter mobility is no less effective than the Maidans because these are the assets of those who are eager for power and want to get help for the election campaign. If you want it is "velvet # Maidan. Remember, politicians have competitors! And they want to go to the trough."
    Do not think that after the Maidan there will be honest officials !!! There must be an existing guide for this. Boycotting an individual party is much more effective, look at the same local elections in Ukraine. Yatsenyuk merged and the chair under him staggered, the owners merge !!!
    Problems with the authorities can only be with low voter turnout. No one will risk being a place in the sun and will start to do what is already ripe.
    With respect and best wishes to all VO readers. hi
    1. Dewa1s
      Dewa1s 28 December 2015 08: 02 New
      +2
      Not a single name has sounded for whom he wants to change EP.

      Well, any couch expert will tell you that in order to defeat corruption, it is enough to drive out all the bad bureaucrats, collect the good ones and introduce executions.
      And thank you for trying to straighten the brains of my compatriots, you can solve the problem with EP in the framework of the current legislation
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 28 December 2015 12: 46 New
      0
      Quote: WildFox
      Not a single name has sounded for whom he wants to change EP.

      Read the EP on the ONF more closely, and there, in turn, there are names, "names and passwords" ..
  9. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 28 December 2015 07: 35 New
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    As you read the article, the question arose, and who is stopping our president from putting things in order in United Russia? Or at least in the government? The people support him, and are waiting for changes for the better, but for some reason, somehow this process is not moving forward. I have only two options for such a policy: 1) The president does not have enough power to restore order in the country 2) The president is happy with everything. And the fact that he is not officially the head of EP is not an indicator. He has tremendous influence on it, all bills and his proposals are supported unanimously, so why put things in order there and not in words? And in any case, something needs to be done, because situations with Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Chubais, information about Chaika undermine the credibility of the institutions of power. Okay with Chubais and Serdyukov, everything is clear to everyone, but Vasiliev? How could it be released, with such media coverage of the trial? Even for the sake of decency, they did not wait 1-2 years, they spat on the Russian judicial system and released ... Therefore, cardinal changes in the structure of power, a real fight against corruption and nepotism, are needed, and not an imitation of this very struggle, the judicial system must work and the laws are enforced . If this does not happen, then everything will end very badly for us.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 28 December 2015 09: 53 New
      +9
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      but Vasiliev? How could it be released, with such publicity of the media of the trial?
      Well, as they say, Vasiliev is a cousin of Svetlana Medvedeva, who is Svetlana’s husband and the head of EP ...
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 28 December 2015 11: 53 New
      0
      As you read the article, the question arose, and who is stopping our president from putting things in order in United Russia?
      For United Russia D.A. Medvedev should be responsible, sort of like he is its leader. Here is his official post-Chairman of the All-Russian Political Party "UNITED RUSSIA." (Http://er.ru/chairman/)
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 December 2015 12: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Gomunkul
        For United Russia D.A. Medvedev should be responsible, sort of like he is its leader.

        We always have a guarantor in white .. it’s time to merge EP here and merge - the question is, what will change?
  10. knn54
    knn54 28 December 2015 07: 51 New
    0
    Taking corruption as a basis (which is dangerous to society, like rust to metal), the author "suffered".
    Well, a couple of points - created with the money of the oligarchs and (again, the Strugatsky brothers): "stay in power as long as possible and get the most out of it." BUT the development of parties and the methods of governing the country are ABSOLUTELY different.
  11. My address
    My address 28 December 2015 07: 53 New
    14
    Fully agree with the respected author hi . He warns that the government is dangerous for itself and for the country has moved away from the people.

    Even for the information of those who are not very long on the site - Roman proved his patriotism and his decency with concrete help from Donbas, and at the risk of freedom, and, maybe, life.
  12. nemec55
    nemec55 28 December 2015 07: 54 New
    12
    Our authorities did away with all the competitors from the political scene Well done, those who really could have been a competitor were not allowed to broadcast at all, but people like onalny and others like them just showed their essence on TV and they no longer needed to understand it. You can steal the result further
  13. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 08: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: dbnz
    Quote: chikenous59
    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If you direct them "correctly", they will gladly come out to the square and will stand there for a very long time!
    I have a lot of friends just after the movie "The Seagull" became ardent oppositionists.

    Well done, your friends, they held out for a long time - but after the film "Leviathan" they could have become ardent oppositionists. It's not in vain that John F. Tefft eats bread.

    Yes, they did not hold out for a long time, they initially understood that any person in power steals, but so that in such a size .. it is too much. Not trusting the authorities for many people is the norm, one is not satisfied with the salary, the other pays the mortgage with huge interest rates, the third has been cut altogether. Are these situations not enough? Millions and millions ... Whom does a citizen usually blame for the fact that food is expensive, services are expensive, loans are expensive, and wages are low? Of course, the state. All these people, especially those with a weak psyche, easily succumb to various tricks, it is very easy to drag such people to the "Maidan" and use for their own purposes
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 28 December 2015 12: 00 New
      +1
      Who does a citizen usually blame for the fact that the products are expensive, the services are expensive, the loans are expensive, and the salaries are low? Of course the state.
      But shouldn't the state act as a regulator in solving these problems? Just the government should conduct a balanced economic policy within the country, avoiding distortions.
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  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 December 2015 08: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: chikenous59
    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If they are "correctly" directed

    There are really a lot of people who are dissatisfied with their lives (more precisely, their financial situation), I do not argue. And tell me who, in your opinion, can send them "correctly" and, most importantly, where? Maybe Nadezhdin, Gozman, Navalny, the Parnas party, Yabloko? Those who discredited themselves before the same people and showed in their time the essence of "liberalism" in their understanding. And people who are trying to "correctly" send somewhere just need to think about who benefits from it. I agree with one thing - it is high time for the leaders of the United Russia to think not about their careers, but about those who, in fact, elect them to the Duma, to local self-government bodies. The functionaries got sick and lost their scent completely.
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  15. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 08: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Quote: chikenous59
    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If they are "correctly" directed

    There are really a lot of people who are dissatisfied with their lives (more precisely, their financial situation), I do not argue. And tell me who, in your opinion, can send them "correctly" and, most importantly, where? Maybe Nadezhdin, Gozman, Navalny, the Parnas party, Yabloko? Those who discredited themselves before the same people and showed in their time the essence of "liberalism" in their understanding. And people who are trying to "correctly" send somewhere just need to think about who benefits from it. I agree with one thing - it is high time for the leaders of the United Russia to think not about their careers, but about those who, in fact, elect them to the Duma, to local self-government bodies. The functionaries got sick and lost their scent completely.

    When I talked about "correct" direction, I used quotation marks on purpose. I meant that such people can easily be used to achieve their own goals, for example, to come to power. This is definitely our "opposition". And who exactly, Yabloko or Navalny, I don't know. The fact remains that such people will be used for their own selfish purposes.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 28 December 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      such people will be used for their own selfish purposes.

      In such situations, according to the rules of the "genre", it is a sin not to use the "dissatisfied", especially when those who try to use them have a snout not just in fluff, but in shit. I hope that the example of Ukraine will have a preventive effect for the most impatient.
      1. Glukashin
        Glukashin 28 December 2015 17: 51 New
        +1
        The conclusion, as I understand it, you have one - Do not dare to rebel against the authorities, the mob! So?
        But it’s not surprising to you that in the role of the opposition we have only Navalny and Gozmans, but tame Zyuganov with the Sergeant-paratrooper? The authorities hold in their opponents clowns and freaks, but fiercely trample the rest of the political field.
  16. Egoza
    Egoza 28 December 2015 08: 39 New
    +6
    Article ++++!
    Yes, Russia is big, but biting off a piece of it like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, you won’t have time to look back, there will be your own maidan. A rehearsal took place in Ukraine, and it was not without reason that the United States sent an ambassador, the creator of color revolutions. So it would be time for both the GDP and the ruling party to catch up on time. hi
  17. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 08: 44 New
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Quote: chikenous59
    I think there are millions of people in Russia who are dissatisfied with their lives. If they are "correctly" directed

    There are really a lot of people who are dissatisfied with their lives (more precisely, their financial situation), I do not argue. And tell me who, in your opinion, can send them "correctly" and, most importantly, where? Maybe Nadezhdin, Gozman, Navalny, the Parnas party, Yabloko? Those who discredited themselves before the same people and showed in their time the essence of "liberalism" in their understanding. And people who are trying to "correctly" send somewhere just need to think about who benefits from it. I agree with one thing - it is high time for the leaders of the United Russia to think not about their careers, but about those who, in fact, elect them to the Duma, to local self-government bodies. The functionaries got sick and lost their scent completely.

    By the way, that the government will change its mind. Studying the history of any time, you can understand that people always went to power in order to get rich, in order to manage people and resources. So their ego demanded.
    They will never change their minds, not for that they came to politics.
    There were also positive examples of rulers, of course, but there are very few such examples. A lot of time has passed since the time of Peter the Great, but I strongly doubt that modern "boyars" (deputies, bankers, etc.) differ from the boyars of the 18th century. The same grabbers pursuing their own selfish goals. Of course, they also do something good for the people, you cannot work only for your own pocket, otherwise they will quickly be revealed and fired under pressure from the people. By the way, before the boyars always shared with the tsar in order to continue to live well.
  18. kostik1301
    kostik1301 28 December 2015 08: 48 New
    +6
    Article PLUS. for a long time EdRo and the entire liberal-oligarchic vertical of power together with GDP and DAM with the government to the landfill of history, not to replace the sign, namely the landfill .....
  19. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 28 December 2015 08: 50 New
    +5
    Dear our United Russia (and you really do cost us dear), isn't it time to think? We do not want Maidan. And you?

    And the recipe is simple: if in Russia you spend 90% of the planned amounts for road repairs (10% are stolen, but this is already a national tradition), and not 40-50%, then you will not have to strangle anyone with taxes. After all, they are strangling by and large not truckers, they are already 15% in their prices in their rates. They stifle us, those who will buy products that have risen in price by exactly 15%.


    Interesting article. The highlighted phrases are especially "hooked". I agree with the author that the situation in the country is really not healthy in relations between the authorities and the people.
    It is clear that the opinion is subjective, but what it is, colleagues. hi
  20. 0895055116
    0895055116 28 December 2015 09: 00 New
    +7
    I am not a great politician, but I believed and still believe that EP and PR are TWIN-BROTHERS! That policy of the PARTY, which is being broadcast to us from Moscow, is being turned over very coldly and cynically in the localities in the way that local "figures" from the United Russia need to do, with almost complete impunity - examples? - Please, Volgograd, the former governor of Bozhenov SA (local nicknames, very verbose - HAPPER, BOATSWIN, BOMZHARA, ASF-Astrakhan swine fever, Bozhenov) (2012-2014) together with his "diamond" team was engaged in systematic plunder of the region .. Well and how did it end? Well, removed from office, safely fled abroad - EVERYTHING! His assistant assistants? Trifle - part of the "village", part - got off with "slight fright", "large fish" - almost all "slight fright", many REMAINED in power and even went up! Under these circumstances, I made the following conclusion for myself: IN NO EVENT TO VOTE FOR "ER" AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES, BETTER FOR THE KPRF, although I do not agree with all of their policies!
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 28 December 2015 11: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: 0895055116
      The policies of the PARTY, which are broadcast to us from Moscow, are turned over quite calmly and cynically in the localities

      Do not flip anything. The line of United Russia is one.
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 28 December 2015 11: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: 0895055116
      BETTER FOR THE Communist Party

      This reminds me of a Soviet cartoon: "Gena the crocodile worked at the zoo as a crocodile." So the Communist Party of the Russian Federation works in the United Russia as an opposition party
  21. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 09: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: 0895055116
    I am not a great politician, but I believed and still believe that EP and PR are TWIN-BROTHERS! That policy of the PARTY, which is being broadcast to us from Moscow, is being turned over very coldly and cynically in the localities in the way that local "figures" from the United Russia need to do, with almost complete impunity - examples? - Please, Volgograd, the former governor of Bozhenov SA (local nicknames, very verbose - HAPPER, BOATSWIN, BOMZHARA, ASF-Astrakhan swine fever, Bozhenov) (2012-2014) together with his "diamond" team was engaged in systematic plunder of the region .. Well and how did it end? Well, removed from office, safely fled abroad - EVERYTHING! His assistant assistants? Trifle - part of the "village", part - got off with "slight fright", "large fish" - almost all "slight fright", many REMAINED in power and even went up! Under these circumstances, I made the following conclusion for myself: IN NO EVENT TO VOTE FOR "ER" AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES, BETTER FOR THE KPRF, although I do not agree with all of their policies!

    Well your unloved politicians then will move to the Communist Party))) Who will win the election, there they will come))
    1. 0895055116
      0895055116 28 December 2015 09: 15 New
      +2
      Unfortunately, you are right in many respects - the practice of running from one party to another is POPULAR among some PROFESSIONAL "UNCLEAN" politicians! The only thing that consoles me so far is that they are RUNNING, mainly, for the time being in the "United Russia", and not in the Communist Party.
  22. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 09: 15 New
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    such people will be used for their own selfish purposes.

    In such situations, according to the rules of the "genre", it is a sin not to use the "dissatisfied", especially when those who try to use them have a snout not just in fluff, but in shit. I hope that the example of Ukraine will have a preventive effect for the most impatient.

    Will not render for the most part. I personally know people whom the Maidan has not taught anything. As they whined and ached from the actions of the authorities. Many are justified, many are unreasonable. But they are very unhappy
  23. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 28 December 2015 09: 29 New
    +3
    Yes, very interesting parallels. Two about the parties in power, like two drops of water similar to each other, and to be honest, the internal political system is not that different. There, the oligarchs, who crushed power under themselves, and here the oligarchs are no worse, there are officials stealing and tearing themselves away from the aspirations of the people, here the same is abundant.
    After all, the most disgusting thing in this is that the bulk of United Russia members will instantly evaporate, some in a certain direction and some not. To a house, or apartment, away from the fire. As many of their colleagues in Ukraine did.
    That's just the point that many people care about the "lantern" results of their stormy highly intellectual activity, because they have already prepared a quiet European harbor with a "normal" bank account. Such our fate is unlikely to interest them, they are once again at a low start.
  24. 23424636
    23424636 28 December 2015 09: 47 New
    +3
    I’ll tell you my opinion The Party of Regions is purely a party of Proshenko’s Jewish millionaires. Landik, Khvyagilsky and others sharply distanced themselves from it by Vladimir Boyko and Taruta with Gaiduk, knowing what these comrades did to Donbass with Akhmetov. And the furry, innocent Azarov was a cashier there. But these are mushrooms. What Yanukovych did when he came to power he simply laid down a small and middle-sized business since! June 2010, this, together with analyst Azarov and their sons, raised cash from 5% to 10 (since 1993 it has not changed). And everyone who didn’t switch to this tariff was taxed in black. Then Yanyk put his son’s friend as the head of the Tax Department, so the former OBXSS cop became the main producer of the dough. This comrade destroyed the pension fund and all his accumulative assets. But these animals, too, wanted to work in Europe, that is, they worked the eurotranches so they transferred the women to retirement from 60. For this, they used the odious Moldavian Jew (Azarov's words) Tigibka of teacher Yatsenyuk to carry out pension reform ... and therefore lost the parliamentary elections by allowing the Nazis of Liberty in the wake of popular anger. Well, it's easier - after the death of his father Zosima, Yanukovych lost his bearings and fell into the hands of an unclean woman and pride, so his will weakened and led to the advent of demonic power.
  25. chikenous59
    chikenous59 28 December 2015 09: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: 23424636
    I’ll tell you my opinion The Party of Regions is purely a party of Proshenko’s Jewish millionaires. Landik, Khvyagilsky and others sharply distanced themselves from it by Vladimir Boyko and Taruta with Gaiduk, knowing what these comrades did to Donbass with Akhmetov. And the furry, innocent Azarov was a cashier there. But these are mushrooms. What Yanukovych did when he came to power he simply laid down a small and middle-sized business since! June 2010, this, together with analyst Azarov and their sons, raised cash from 5% to 10 (since 1993 it has not changed). And everyone who didn’t switch to this tariff was taxed in black. Then Yanyk put his son’s friend as the head of the Tax Department, so the former OBXSS cop became the main producer of the dough. This comrade destroyed the pension fund and all his accumulative assets. But these animals, too, wanted to work in Europe, that is, they worked the eurotranches so they transferred the women to retirement from 60. For this, they used the odious Moldavian Jew (Azarov's words) Tigibka of teacher Yatsenyuk to carry out pension reform ... and therefore lost the parliamentary elections by allowing the Nazis of Liberty in the wake of popular anger. Well, it's easier - after the death of his father Zosima, Yanukovych lost his bearings and fell into the hands of an unclean woman and pride, so his will weakened and led to the advent of demonic power.

    You are not 16 years old by chance? I judge by the way you build sentences, you turn everything into a mess.
  26. Azitral
    Azitral 28 December 2015 10: 29 New
    +5
    Ohoy ... Rarely has the soul been in such a disarray. I remember how in the 11th year our bosses directly demanded to vote for United Russia. And it threatened - otherwise - oo-oo-oo! Among my acquaintances, NONE was going to vote for the United Russia Party, including its "ordinary" members. In the villages, the authorities took away ballots from the electorate, filled them out correctly and went with a bundle to the ballot box. In front of the election commission. And all the same, they lost even in the region, not to mention the city. Before that, EP was indifferent to me, after that it became disgusting. After all, I supported the "swamp" ideas - realizing that another revolution - that's all, crank, out! In general, my attitude towards the United Russia party has not changed. Another thing has changed: I realized that our beloletochniki are even WORSE. Maidan gives a good vaccination.
    On the one hand, it is impossible to rock a boat in a clearly pre-storm atmosphere. On the other hand, it’s impossible, it’s unacceptable to vote for United Russia or by your silence to give them the opportunity to remain in power. The main trouble is that besides - NOT FOR WHO! Non-systemic opposition - obvious enemies reaching irrational hatred. System - clumsy clowns without a coherent program and ideas. Just don’t talk about the Communists - these are even worse than all. And to make a party - alas. The weakest place among us Russians is the inability to self-organize. God did not offend everyone else.
    1. Glukashin
      Glukashin 28 December 2015 18: 23 New
      +2
      It’s you just not in the subject, how fiercely the authorities trample any hint at an adequate opposition. Just try to organize something, and tomorrow you will find yourself behind bars, or even worse, like Ilyukhin. But television channels will not tell about this. This is a taboo worse than Putin's daughters.
  27. stopkran
    stopkran 28 December 2015 10: 33 New
    0
    The party, more precisely the multi-party system, is specially created to fool boobies! )))

    "Those fools who will think that they are repeating the opinion of the newspaper of their camp, will repeat our opinion or that which we want. Imagining that they are following the organ of their party, they will follow the flag that we will hang out for them."
    "Protocols"
    http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/AE/protokoly.txt_with-big-pictures.html
  28. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 28 December 2015 10: 40 New
    +2
    If the "Maidan" begins in Russia, everyone will be cut and burned, regardless of
    persons, the opposition will be the first to finish off. The people are held back only by the example of "fraternal" Ukraine, they will endure to the last. But as always, remember the riots and
    revolution, there is a suitable occasion and people with matches. Blazes - quench your shish! But this will no longer worry anyone, in our glorious habit, burn
    it's all in blue flame!
  29. gorgo
    gorgo 28 December 2015 11: 12 New
    +1
    Article minus. I saw how the Maidan began, you can’t deceive me. Yes, the power of the PR was terrible, and I personally suffered from it. Yes, Yanyk was mediocre, and he was also betrayed. Yes, the people terribly did not like that power, especially in Kiev. But! With all this, the Maidan itself began ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY when the directors waved a wand, and not when a kind of popular anger overflowed a certain cup. The Maidan was originally not economic, but European Union. And they gathered it only because Yanyk did not sign this fucking agreement with the EU. And only then, when a certain prepared asset gathered there, they began to weave economic problems in order to draw more people into the street. And then - I always say - Kiev was not there! Only on weekends in the form of hanging out vacationers. Yes, they sympathized in many respects, but for the most part did not trust.
    And further. Tell me, what should it be like in Russia for such articles to stop writing? BUT? Here is what is supposed to happen? What should life be like? So that there is no corruption? Honest courts and cool roads? Each one has two foreign cars and a salary of 2 thousand euros? What else? Excuse me, and in which country there is no corruption? And where are the right honest courts? Maybe in Europe? Or in the USA? Do not tell me! These problems are EVERYWHERE! And having a good financial and media resource, a wave of popular anger can be raised in absolutely any country, in any period of its existence. For such a terrible and disgusting system, which is able to bring people to spontaneous manifestations of protest, is extremely rare in history. But mostly people are amorphous, patient and passive, and also very inert.
    Therefore, of course, the government should think about these things. At least not to give trump cards to enemies. But do not exaggerate the negative! Yes, there are problems (they always are), yes, you need to fight them. But keep in mind that the country is, in fact, at war. Will someone in their right mind demand from the life of manna from heaven when the country is besieged by the enemy and is at war?
  30. syndicalist
    syndicalist 28 December 2015 11: 18 New
    0
    Quote: fa2998
    And no external success does not cancel out failures within the country.

    If they are - these successes
  31. sergio6769
    sergio6769 28 December 2015 11: 21 New
    0
    I’d put the article and 10 ++++++ all on the topic. And I’ll say frankly, a couple of years I’d call it I would support the Maidan ... Ukraine has cooled hi
  32. 31rus
    31rus 28 December 2015 11: 36 New
    0
    Dear Ruslan, I share your position on many points, but it’s not right to impose your point of view, everyone should see and understand for himself, then you can go further, I just want to add a system of power built up by the GDP, now it’s incapable and even leads to the collapse of Russia, separatism, corruption, small-town interests, mutual responsibility, the result of failure and obvious sabotage of decisions made from above
    1. 31rus
      31rus 28 December 2015 16: 17 New
      0
      Sorry, Roman.
  33. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 28 December 2015 12: 15 New
    +2
    By and large, we ourselves are to blame! In the year 11, who pulled more than half of Russians for one causal place? Does anyone have any illusions about this party ?? As in the rest and any other overheated in power! Whom do we trust more on the TV or our eyes and brains, the difference is what kind of window and what in the box still exists. Hochma will be if they at 16 again will pick up the majority ... and to a new circle of rake races)))
  34. alicante11
    alicante11 28 December 2015 12: 15 New
    +8
    Maidan in Russia is not possible for one simple reason. There is a vertical of power in Russia. All high-ranking officials and security officials serve ... no, not Russia and not the people - but their masters - the oligarchs. And therefore, as long as there is an oligarchic consensus, born in the second half of the 90s and leading to the power of the GDP, there can be no Maidan in Russia. Because the riot police will be given the order to suppress it. And if the OMON forces are not enough, then they will attract the explosives, Kadyrov's Chechens, even tanks will be brought in, as in 93. Yanukovych's problem was that he was surrendered by part of the elite. The Russian elite understands very well that by surrendering the GDP, by surrendering Russia, it will surrender itself. Therefore, they are allowed to get fat and have feasts during the plague. Because, unfortunately, not the people, but THEY are now the mainstay of Russia. The only problem is that this support is very shaky, we have already seen this on the example of WWI and WWII. In WWI, the elite surrendered the power and the country, because they were given a "lucrative offer" that turned out to be more profitable than the one that the bankrupt government could have made. And in the Second World War the people, despite a much more catastrophic situation, did not surrender either power or the country. Yes, now the elite is stubborn and understands what awaits it in case of defeat, but this is the ELITE and it cannot, by definition, go all the way. Here is the danger, not in the Maidan on Red Square.
  35. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 28 December 2015 12: 58 New
    -1
    In Russia, I think the Maidan will not ripen. And that’s why I don’t believe it.
    "The people" so to speak, or those who go to rally have to pay. Not everyone, of course, but only the "driving force" that will drag the really dissatisfied with them. But in order to pay, and this is done by oligarchs and so on, there must be a reason.
    The oligarchs, etc., sawed the whole Ukraine, and then there were contradictions and a desire for a redivision between the oligarchs themselves. I think Russia is far from being sawed, too big. But I think the process above is controlled. The experience of Swamp showed. If necessary, I think the government can be even tougher.
  36. alecsis69
    alecsis69 28 December 2015 13: 32 New
    -2
    "PR and ER are parties created by the nomenklatura and serve only the interests of the state, not the people."
    I fundamentally disagree with this statement. These parties, created by the nomenclature, serve only the interests of the nomenclature, and the interests of the state and the people as a whole coincide.
    In contrast to the EP, the Popular Front was created, and the war between them sometimes is not comic with varying success.
    1. alecsis69
      alecsis69 28 December 2015 15: 52 New
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      It is interesting who put it - without comment: friend of EP, an enemy of the Popular Front, or one who did not understand what was written.
  37. science fiction writer
    science fiction writer 28 December 2015 13: 46 New
    +1
    read the article and komenty and now I think and where does the EP ??? Don't like her you don’t vote for
    she in September 2016 and will not be her, but for what Maidan, instead of elections, I can’t get in here.
    Threat or someone wants to replace the elections with Maidan ??? The author you would have called the name of this bastard.
    ZZY Until September 2016 such articles will be on the car and about the Communist Party, LDPR, Sp Russia.
    1. alecsis69
      alecsis69 28 December 2015 15: 40 New
      +1
      Fantast gives wonderful and, as always, wonderful - not realizable tips. The point here is not the party as such, but a close-knit cohort of bureaucrats, the struggle with which is extremely difficult. Even Stalin, in his time, despite the rather strict personnel policy, could not destroy this system. Yes, he crushed her, but still was forced to reckon with her, and after his death, the system took revenge, which was loudly announced at the XX Congress. Let’s remove EP from power, the whole bureaucratic brotherhood will migrate to the party that will be in power. No one has yet figured out how to deal with this. Stalin was effective, but even he could not defeat them to the end.
  38. igortyson
    igortyson 28 December 2015 13: 51 New
    +1
    When there are sponsors from the upper echelons of power, then there will be a maidan. But to the very top it is unprofitable, it is much easier and safer to play liberals and oppositionists in words, sticking to the same feeding trough as the ruling elite. All this is a play, gentlemen, the illusion of choice.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 28 December 2015 16: 32 New
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      Dear, even to create an illusion it is necessary, at least to do something, that is, to work, illusions do not exist for a long time, therefore, authorities need not illusions, but maneuvering, and here the problems all maneuvering comes down to one, two necessary laws and hundreds of essentially anti-people if the people-power relationship does not change, there will not be Maidan, there will be riots first, and only then there will be leaders, the question is whether they are leaders and if it starts, it will be more serious than the Ukrainian scenario
  39. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 28 December 2015 18: 09 New
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    Stopudovo looks like! As an "alternative history". They remained in the 90s and got worse in them. Even their girls are like ours in the 90s. Cute and venal, aggravated by this. The boys, too, exchanged "penny for a penny" for little things. Including Donetsk-Lugansk. Sorry for the comparison, but "the sediment stinks." The level is not the same! It is not for nothing that the "mentality" allows you to ask for "humanitarian aid" and cut it off ... Neither the one nor the other have lost their illusions ... They all hope that they will "give". Okstite, lads, Nobody will give anything to anyone - we realized this back in the 90s. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the militias of the DPR-LPR. Understand and take it easy! WILL NOT BE FREE! Live and build your own on Your Land, as you understand And God will help you all! And to us, the Russians are an EXAMPLE of what we could become. An example is not inspiring, shanovni ...
  40. German Titov
    German Titov 28 December 2015 22: 13 New
    +4
    Something "inspired". The crow flies forward with the tail unit "Carr", "Carr rebuilding". Fox from the ground "Why are you bawling there." Vorona "Restructuring everything in a new way". Well, the fox, "having heard enough", also began to run its tail forward through the forest, until it ran into a wolf. He, as usual, "got" the redhead. A crow with joyful cries flies "Carr-perrestroika". Fox "Above may be restructuring, but below they have as they want." This Maidan could and should have been prevented. If Janek had listened to the opinion of his ministers (among whom not all are stupid people), they would have merged him and business. To the author, what does Vradievka have to do with it? The usual "cop lawlessness", which was immediately suppressed. At about the same time, in the Petrovsky District Department of Internal Affairs of Donetsk, the "offender" RP-73 was pushed into the anus. The result is like after a nuclear explosion (the ROVD was mowed down at the root). In any state for "ghouls in uniform" there is a "system of checks and balances." I can’t talk about EP (because I have little information) - PR = party of traitors. Dear "Admin". I live in Donetsk. Change the flag on the "avatar". Yak seems to be "once you see it."
  41. populist
    populist 28 December 2015 22: 53 New
    +1
    Maidan in this situation is hardly possible, just one simulacrum in the form of EP will be replaced by another, for example, in the form of ONF.

    A good term is a simulacrum (A sign hiding that there is no original), capacious. Only rarely used. Obviously, simulacra are afraid to offend. EP we have a simulacrum, ONF - a simulacrum, the government - also a simulacrum. Who else do we have simulacrum?
    The article is correct.