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The verge of Cossack separatism

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The verge of Cossack separatism



Almost all wars are connected with the Cossacks, in which they proved themselves to be courageous warriors. But as for politics, this is not for them. Not so long ago, I went to my homeland, and I was met by our farmer ataman, Yuri Aprychko, from a regular bus. And on the way, he talked a lot about his troubles and sorrows. Yura, a respected man, who has matured in his affairs, enjoys unquestioned authority among the farmers. He is here - the first power: the local policeman is a few kilometers away and cannot quickly come if sectarians appear on the village streets and distribute their calls to their god, who is contrary to the local people brought up in the Orthodox faith. The ataman does not give such descent, keeps order, but his soul hurts him for the future of the Cossacks, which today passes its next stage, determining the further development of this distinctive, controversial, but already established culture, no matter how denied it. After all, people who had the task to profit from the deep patriotic roots of the Cossacks and undermine the foundations of a single state, its national security, did not fail to take advantage of it.

Kazak Dolgov was safely removed from the shots at the Russian position

The Cossacks were the first to support state undertakings, especially as regards combat operations. The state rulers of Russia were able to build effective work with Cossack settlements (this can be said now). And then it took more than a dozen years to "tame" a runaway people to serve in the glory of the Fatherland. But it happened and the Cossacks began to fight and support almost all government initiatives until the 1917 year.

It was possible to participate in the Cossacks in the Russian-Japanese war 1904-1905. Along with other Cossack troops, Siberians, Kuban, the Don Cossack army also took direct part in the war.



The fourth Don Cossack concessional division received 1 on June 1904 of the year. The highest command to go to martial law, according to which on July 20 it was necessary to carry out the first mobilization and sending Cossacks to the front. Interestingly, all the Cossacks of the line and reserve discharges from the state treasury were given a lump sum in the amount of one hundred rubles (for each foot and horse).

During the mobilization of the regiments, the Cossacks of one village were, if possible, determined to be one hundred, the principle of fraternity was meant and enforced. In the Cossacks, fraternity is a great pledge of unity, courage and integrity of action, every cowardly fears that his neighbor will come and tell the villagers how he, in such a case, cowed or did not show boldness. The village will not forgive the coward, there still lives the spirit of the Cossacks, of youth, courage.

The State Archives of the Rostov Region have documents that allow us to trace directly the personal involvement of the Cossacks of the Kagalnitskaya and Khomutovskaya villages in the hostilities.

Here is one of them: October 24 1904 two Cossack 24 regiments were injured. Details in the situation in which they were injured are drawn as follows: "At six o'clock in the afternoon, a hunter from the Buzuluk regiment arrived at the outpost in the village of Sandnoza and reported verbally that the head of the hunting team requested to get in touch with the team, since six hunters were sent from the village of Vuchzhanin The commander of 4, hundreds of 24 regiments, Esaul Erandakov sent three people to communicate to the village of Phaoziyan for reconnaissance, and two Cossacks and a paramedic went to them in 500's steps.

During the passage between the old trenches in the village of Phaotsziyan, Vakhmister Iosif Tikhonovich Artemenkov (Olginskaya stanitsa), who was walking in front, was wounded in the back leg. Then the consignor Cherkesov Fedor (the village of Khomutovskaya), the consignor Grigori Ivanovich Ezhov (the village of Olginskaya), Karp Gurov (the village of Migulinskaya) and the hundred-year-old medical assistant Dmitry Ivanovich Korolev (the village of Kagalnitskaya) turned back.

The following shots wounded Cossack Grigori Ivanovich Dolgov (stanitsa Gnilovskaya) in both legs. Those who had come from behind ran up to him, the medical assistant made a dressing for Dolgov, after having transferred the wounded man in his arms with the help of his comrades into the trench, not paying attention to the Japanese rifle fire. It was necessary to leave with the wounded under a hail of bullets. Thanks to the volleys of the hunters from the village of Vuzhzhanin, the wounded Cossack Dolgov was safely removed from the shots to Russian positions. "

In the State Archive there are no lists of Cossacks, called up to the fourth Don Cossack division in the Russo-Japanese War. Only the list of headquarters and senior officers in the service in the regiments of the fourth Don Cossack division in the Russian-Japanese war has been preserved.

In the 24-th Cossack regiment cornet served Khoroshilov Hippolyte Vasilevich from the village Khomutovskaya 27-mi years and 19-th regiment were from the village of podesauly Kagalnitskaya tridtsatitrohletny Dementiev Pavel years Zhogolev Marcian Nikolaevich (34 years).

For courage and bravery shown in the Russian-Japanese war, many of the Don Cossacks were awarded the Cross of St. George the fourth degree: cossack 19-Regiment Puzanov Basil from the village Kagalnitskaya - for different time differences in the battles with the Japanese, of 24-regiment for their courage and bravery Kagalnitsky Cossacks were rewarded with St. George's crosses - Senior Inspector Golubov Ivan, Senior Medical Assistant Korolev Dmitry Ivanovich, Vakhmist Peter Belousov, Senior Inspector Yegor Bespamyatnov and orderly Cherkesov Fedor from Khomutovskaya stanitsa.

For courage and bravery in the January battles with the Japanese, the commanding Cherkessov Semyon from the village of Khomutovskaya, from the village of Kagalnitskaya, Cossack Ivan Levchenkov and Timoshenkov’s deputy Kozma, and Yrmilov Matvey, was in charge of the care of the departed for the care of the Japanese for the care of the Japanese. battles with Japan.



As indicated in the case, located in the State Archives of the Rostov Region: “The 24 th regiment in November-December 1904 took part in the cavalry raid of Major General Mishchenko at Yingkou railway station. The station served as a supply point for Japanese troops who had besieged Russian troops in the fortress of Port Arthur. For the eight days of January 1905, a detachment commanded by Major General P.I. Mishchenko, walked about three hundred miles, scattering and capturing several Japanese rear teams in them. Hundreds of wagons with food supplies and military property were destroyed, and food depots in Yingkou itself were burned. During the raid, the Don Cossacks repeatedly showed high standards of combat skills. ”

For bravery and resourcefulness during the raid on Yingkou 52, the warrior of the Don Cossack Regiment was awarded the St. George's Cross of the fourth degree. Among the recipients were Cossacks of the Kagalnitsky stanitsa, Senior Constable Nosov Fedor, Vakhmistr Myshakin Ivan, Senior Constable Tymoshenkov Maxim, Cossack Alexander Farinov and Khomutovskaya Stanitsy Junior Insignia Cherkesov Semen Ignatovich and orderly Koltsov Petr. Bespamyatnov Yegor Kagalnitskoy stanitsa was awarded the St. George of the Third Grade, being seriously wounded, remained in the ranks until the end of the battle.

In the Ynkou 30 battle of December 1904, the Cossacks of the stanitsa Kagalnitskaya were among the dead: the Cossack Koretskov Hilarion, the orderly Petelin Nikolai, the Cossack Golubov Mitrofan, and on the village of Vuchzhanin on November 10 of the year Cossack Skachkov Nikifor died of wounds at the village of Vuchzhanin.

Cossacks Solovyov Kuzma, Farinov Alexander, Perervin Petr, junior contractor Yepor Bespamyatnov and Cossacks of the Khomutovskaya stanitsa Puchkov Ilya, Koltsov Timofey, Vasio Lisovenkov were injured at Yingkou station.

During the 30 battle of December 1904, the Cossack of the village of Kagalnitskaya Apanasov Athanasiy was missing.

In early April, 1906 of the year began to arrive at the station in Novocherkassk from the Far East, trains with regiments of 4-oh Don Cossack Division, and then the Cossacks followed the marching order to their native villages.

11 April 1906, in the village of Khomutovskaya, was the solemn meeting of the Cossacks who returned from the Far East, both their own village and the villages of Kagalnitskaya and Mechetinskaya. By the time the Cossacks met, the entire stanitsa had gathered on the church square. The first to arrive were the Cossacks of the village of Kagalnitsky, and behind them the Cossacks of the village of Mechetinskaya. Those and others were met by the old men and the chieftain, who, on behalf of the stanitsa society, brought bread and salt to these Cossacks, then a prayer service was served near the church. Kahalnichany brought an altar cross to the village of Khomutovskoy, and mosque khoryvitsya in gratitude for the cordial welcome during the farewell of these Cossacks to the Far East in 1904 year.

Having led Kagalnitsky and Mechetinsky Cossacks, the village solemnly met their Cossacks. Khomutovtsy were greeted with a procession and with a guard of honor. They were also offered public bread and salt. Then a prayer of thanksgiving was served on the church square.

The Cossacks brought an icon of the Savior for the church, and a silk banner for the reign. They brought the icon of St. Seraphim to the priest, and the village ataman V.I. Kuznetsov's silver gilded glass with the inscription "VI Kuznetsov Khomutovsky stanitsa ataman from the Cossacks who served in the Far East."

After the moleben, the Cossacks were invited by the village ataman to eat public bread and salt, which was presented to them by grateful residents right there on the church square.

So it was in the old days.

About the tragedy of storytelling, mass executions in the years of the Civil War was written enough.

How did the little atamans share power in the 90s?

The so-called revival of the Cossacks began, and all these undertakings would have come to a hard business, but gradually the state put this attack in order. I want to tell an interesting case from my journalistic practice that occurred in 1996 year.

But it all began in 1991, when the first ataman Alexander Izvarin was elected on a big circle in the village of Gukovskaya. A year later there was a change of power: the Gukovsky Cossack yurt was formed and the ataman Viktor Anikin became his chieftain, to whom the Cossacks of the village of Gukovskaya should have obeyed. But they did not agree with this and chose their one-powerful new ataman of the village of Gukovskaya - Alexander Tsukanov.

On this the leapfrog of atamans and the divisions of the villages into yurts did not end. In 1993, the Cossacks again decided to unite their two camps and thus enter another Sulinsky yurt of the Donetsk district again on a large circle in the village.

In 1993, there was a change of power again: Gennady Filippenko became the ataman.

And all this happened very close to Novocherkassk, from the ataman of the Great Don Cossacks stationed there at that time. And it was on the table at the military ataman statement. I read it and marveled at the generosity of Gukovsky ataman Filippenko, who, from his ataman generosity, whips left and right with his whips.

From the statement: “I, Lapauk A.M., a resident of the farm Nizhnyaya Kovalevka, Krasnosulinsky district, Rostov region 2, June 1996, was returning home with father-in-law Puk Alexander. On the way, met with ataman Filippenko. My relative asked how long the horses of the Cossacks would poison his crops. Ataman did not like it terribly, he answered us, holding the handle of the gas pistol.

Began to swear, rode off, but I quickly separated them. When I came home, my wife told me that 10 or 15 Cossacks came with nunchucks and brass knuckles, they demanded me and my father-in-law ”.

From the testimony of the Bocharov family (neighbors in the cottage): “We hear some noise on the road. Fought Filipenko and Puk. My husband did not hit anyone, just said: “Why, you, Alexander, touch the chieftain, he will die. At night, we woke up from the roar. “Where is the husband?” They ask. Cossacks climbed out the window, tore the film. Our minor daughter was met on the way, threatened with her. And on the morning of June 4 knocked on the door. I opened - five people burst into the room. She grabbed an ax and drove them away. I saw a bus and cars full of Cossacks standing near the house, and Filippenko was there. I said to him: “Shame on you, you are poisoning your husband for nothing”. He jumped: "I will evict you a month." And the Cossacks, too, began to shout: “Whoever moves the ataman will not leave a stone unturned.” When we were harvesting hay, Filippenko came again and began to shout that we were trying in vain. We do not know what to do. We kindly ask for help. ”

This conflict situation did not fail to take advantage of former atamans. One of them, Alexander Izvarin (the first ataman of the village), gave the investigator testimony: “4 of June, early in the morning a group of Cossacks headed by the village ataman and his first deputy Rykin broke into the house of the Puk family. They lifted the men out of bed and did not let them get dressed, took them to the farm of Platovo, where they were beaten. ”

From the statement of Alexander Lapauk: “The test and I was beaten with whips. After all, the chieftain demanded money - 200 thousand rubles and ordered to get out of the farm for a month. Please protect me from lawlessness. ”

The local priest also stood up to protect the family. The rector of the church of Kazan Mother of God, Father Sergius (in the world, Sergei Avdyushkin) demanded an end to lawlessness, reminded of the commandments of God. So Filippenko met with the Metropolitan of Rostov and Novocherkassk (this is the superior leadership of Father Sergey) and demanded that Father Sergius be removed from the parish, they say, the priest does not obey him.

In his defense, the head priest said that the Cossack circle would always appoint the stanitsa ataman at the time when the service was going and doing it on purpose so that the priest would not know the true state of affairs. And there were a lot of complaints about the actions of the chieftain.

The priest remained to serve in his parish.

Conflict situations arose on financial matters. One of the comrades of Ataman Filippenko told about another unpleasant episode. In January, 1996, they had a conversation about writing off money. “We don’t even know what they were spent on,” I wondered. The chieftain, in response, said that the documents should be transferred to the administration.

Made fake acts, issuing them in hindsight. From a statement by a member of the elders, centurion Ivan Chekunov: “In May, the stanitsa ataman Filippenko came to me on 1995 of the year, and filed a deduction act in the amount of 30 million rubles. Supposedly products were purchased for the local children's pioneer camp. But I did not attend. And draw up the last number of acts - not fit! And in the act were already signed Vlasov and Sidelsky. But I still refused. ”

However, the ataman Filippenko failed to shift, he spent seven years in his honorary position. Until he was again dismissed in this post by the new chieftain.

How to divide the power of the major chieftains

If this state of affairs occurred in relatively small Cossack formations, then soon followed a series of changes in power and division of territories, which took place for many years and was far from the true and pure bright patriotic rise that the Cossacks of the first wave felt. This leapfrog caused concern from the authorities and law enforcement agencies, which received many complaints about the illegal actions of the nascent new government, which tended to lynch and subjectivism.

Even their own “republics” appear: “Upper Kuban Cossack Republic”, which united two other “republics”, “Zelenchuksko-Urupsky Cossack Soviet Socialist Republic” and “Batalpashinsky Cossack Republic”, “Armavir Cossack Republic”, “Terskaya Cossack Republic”.

Then in Russia, according to official data, one after another Cossack societies began to appear geographically tied to the locality: the Union of Cossacks in Far Russia, the Union of Siberian, Ural and Semirechensky Cossacks, the Don Cossack Army, the All-Cuban Cossack Army, the Black Sea Cossack Army, the Stavropol Cossack Army, Terek Cossack army, Cossack army of Kalmykia, Astrakhan Cossack army, Ural Cossack army, Orenburg Cossack army, Siberian Cossack army, Semirechensky Cossack army, United Yenisei Cossa whose army, the Irkutsk Cossack army, the Trans-Baikal Cossack army, the Amur Cossack army, the Ussuri Cossack army, the Yakut Cossack regiment and others.

At that time, there were three Cossack organizations on the Don: Military Cossack Society (EKR) "The Great Don Army", headed by a Cossack general V.P. Vodolatsky.

The second non-governmental organization, the International Union of non-governmental organizations "Vsevelikoye Don Army" (MSOO "VVD"), headed by Nikolai Kozitsyn, settled in Novocherkassk on the first floor of the main administrative building, where the mayor worked on the second floor. And the power with Nikolay Kozitsyn tried to divide the Ratians.

The third in a row was the "Don Cossack Republic" under the leadership of Alexander Yudin, who did not pass the official registration and almost from her first steps began to fall on information tapes in connection with numerous scandals. Law enforcement agencies immediately attributed to this republic cautiously and “in November 2009 of the year for violation of the established procedure for organizing a public event held in the territory of Starocherkassk rural settlement of Aksay district Yudin by a court decision was brought to administrative responsibility according to part 1, article 20.2 of the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation "(According to the website of the Rostov Region Prosecutor's Office).

And in February 2010, the Rostov region prosecutor issued a warning to the self-proclaimed organization Don Cossack Republic about the inadmissibility of extremist activity, which was to actively promote the idea of ​​creating a self-proclaimed new state entity within Russia. Spread literature, detailing all the charms that may arise in the new state. But at the heart of all the appeals - it was established by law enforcement agencies - there were calls for an uprising. The newly-minted Cossacks even wrote their own constitution and read it during unauthorized meetings, which were spontaneously held in different parts of the Rostov region. From Yudin, there were calls for appealing to the UN to recognize a new territorial-administrative unit. But the three letters about the UN were not inspired by the local population - the other three primordial letters were heard in response, which usually were sent to the high-profile guests.

To once again unite the Cossacks, finally, 16 February, 2011, the President of Russia D.A. Medvedev made amendments to the State Duma to the law "On the State Service of the Russian Cossacks", which proposes the creation of an All-Russian Cossack society. What was done.

However, the Cossack separatist movement still exists and sets forth its own conditions for a new revival of its movement. But everyone is tired. I want to write in big letters: people are tired of you. People want to live in peace and do good, not permanent evil. Because good is forever. I want to stop on the good, and it is connected with the Cones, with the pines, with the yellow sand and the Don wind, with the blue gyrus Don, which lovingly outlines this writer's patrimony.

And about the most important chronicler of the Cossacks - Sholokhov

The hard fate of each person, and the writer in particular, who for centuries passed on the surprisingly distinctive spirit of the Cossacks, to which all real, not masked Cossacks feel involved, and they have a real, not ostentatious sense of pride for their land, for their homeland that feeds roots not one generation. And this blood, spiritual connection is unlikely to be broken by strangers like the Yudin and others. Because there are on Don such as the ataman of the farm Yura Apryshko, who really care about their people for their people and protect them from everyday adversity, without bulging up their daily work on the Maidan and the squares. Yura just knows how to live and teaches this life, the correct life of other people.

For this we also have Sholokhov.

It was recalled that in February there will be 31 year from the day of the death of Mikhail Sholokhov. A man who knows almost the whole world. After all, Sholokhov wrote about us, about the earth, without inventing and not imposing false values, which eventually disappear into non-existence. It remains the present. And it arises in the most unexpected moments.

About this amazing stories I accidentally found out when I was invited to the garrison home of officers of the city of Morozovsk (Rostov region), where the traditional meeting of the cadets A.V. Morozovskaya took place. Suvorov cadet boarding school and graduates of higher military educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

Since its founding, the boarding school has maintained excellent links with military units of the Morozovsky Aviation Garrison. Today, the educational department of the garrison, which is headed by the assistant commander for work with personnel, lieutenant colonel V.E. Gutorov with the support of A. Morozovskaya, Deputy Director Suvorov cadet boarding school for the educational work of military foreman V.P. This was not the first time Linkov had a meeting between high school students and graduates of military universities. In this military-vocational guidance campaign entitled "Choose the profession of an officer!" officers participated aviation group senior pilot Lieutenant A. Averin and navigator senior lieutenant Makarenko. The officers commented on the video about the flight of modern aerobatic teams, which was shown to the cadets. Lieutenant Alexander Averin told the guys about his academic achievements, that he dreamed of becoming a military man, like his father, about military service and his profession. He graduated from high school with a silver medal, then the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots (KVVAUL) with honors.

And quite unexpectedly, there was a story about a prototype of the Sholokhov hero, who, it turns out, was a pilot.

The heroic destiny of Grigori Dolnikov, a pupil of KVAAUL, who was taken prisoner unconsciously, who escaped from him and returned to the ranks, served as the basis for Sholokhov's writing of his world famous story “The Fate of a Man”. Grigory Dolnikov was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union and in peacetime he became Colonel General of Aviation.

To be honest, Sholokhov for me every time turns around a completely different side. As a child, I excitedly read his Don stories, imagined the bitter fate of a little man, Nakhalenok, born out of wedlock and how he was hunted by farmers. And then Nakhalyonok accomplished his main feat and became completely different. In some ways, his fate is similar to mine, Nakhalenkovskaya. Only this is the fault of the parents, not mine, and my sister born out of law, but the fate of sidelong glances and whispering neighbors, true Don inhabitants, who value mental and physical morality, did not pass away.

And I also remember the stories of my Aunt Rai - God rest her soul! - about his meetings with the writer. She, an ordinary farm woman, spoke about the writer, lowering her voice and with some kind of trepidation in front of an unknown and incomprehensible feeling in front of a great man, whose value she understood, a simple woman who had completed several classes of elementary school.

And I also remember the stories of my father, who was also a writer, but did not like Sholokhov and said that this writer was no different and did not like the Cossacks at all, and did not understand at all, for which they gave Sholokhov a Nobel Prize. Envy among the writing environment has been and will be. And they will deduct sentences by line, and they will wonder how it happened that the other person wrote this, and not they, such great and brilliant, whose selfishness and self-love was higher than the great work that they could touch for a moment.
Disputes about the works of Sholokhov do not stop today, especially with regard to his famous “Quiet Don”.

When I was a student, I also analyzed the style of the novel. And immediately the difference in the writing of the text was clearly caught in the eyes. As if the text was written not by one person, but by two people. The style is completely different. With this and some literary critics agreed. Only after all the writing person can reincarnate several times, it is akin to the state of a talented actor.

The most incredible rumors spread. For example, as if Sholokhov kept a white officer chained and vytyvyl from him all the information for his novel. Another rumor - Mikhail found a bag with sketches of the novel.

And Sholokhov for me today became the personification of something real, the involvement in which then was felt by practically all the people who lived on the land of Don. They carried this participation to the great through the years and passed it on to the next generation.

Yes, Sholokhov was alive. He loved to drink, he loved women, and children born out of wedlock were in the nearby Bazka farm, which are on the other side of the Don, just opposite Vyoshenskaya stanitsa. But tell me, there will be plenty of such “tails” in the lives of many men ... But only men began to write books less and less.

True, there are exceptions. I remembered our Oleg Chuvakin. Frost on the skin of his stories. I cried as I read his stories. What a pity that today there is practically no powerful system of promotion of authors at the state level, which began in the 1930-ies. It may be objected to me that these authors were fed up ... But who then did not feed from the broad state hand? Both talented and worthless. But the real thing remained, what remained later became the property of our country. All writers have a hard time, but they worked to leave something after them, real, worthy. And I believe that after Oleg Chuvakin, there will also remain something real, worthy that will lift the spirit of the Russian person, making him resistant to many trials.

And there will be many trials. This was said to me by an Orthodox priest in confession. Only in these tests, people always held on to a strong hand. And it was the hand of the state.
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  1. apro
    apro 23 December 2015 06: 12 New
    +6
    What the author wanted to say, I still did not understand, all people and horses mixed up, what is the Cossacks today? Most likely a mumbled circus.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 23 December 2015 06: 58 New
      +7
      Are you Russian, or just illiterate? A circus ... Yes, there are just mummers, but most Cossacks are real patriots.
      Quote: apro
      What the author wanted to say, I still did not understand, all people and horses mixed up, what is the Cossacks today? Most likely a mumbled circus.
    2. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 23 December 2015 07: 40 New
      +6
      yeah ... our Orenburg "Cossacks" can only plump and launder the loot using the "Cossack" preferences ...
      everyone heard about the “Tsapkov gang”? this is the collective image of our Cossacks
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh 23 December 2015 08: 56 New
        +7
        Quote: Russian Uzbek
        yeah ... our Orenburg "Cossacks" can only plump and launder the loot using the "Cossack" preferences ...
        everyone heard about the “Tsapkov gang”? this is the collective image of our Cossacks

        Identifying Kuschevka or other historical Cossack regions with Cossacks today is the same as identifying the United States with the Indians. On ancient Cossack lands, Cossacks make up well if 10% is why you correctly put the brackets in your post on the word Cossacks. It is unlikely that these people have what kind of Cossacks that attitude. And now everyone can call themselves a Cossack without really worrying about the consequences.
        1. Rastas
          Rastas 23 December 2015 18: 39 New
          +4
          There are no Cossacks today. They were no longer in the generation of my grandfather, who was the son of a Terek Cossack. He himself did not consider himself a Cossack; in the war he reached Budapest in simple troops. I also do not feel any relation to the Cossacks. Today it’s all mummers, it’s about if the Japanese begin to associate themselves with samurai. In addition, it is generally accepted that before the revolution, only Cossacks lived on the Don and Kuban, although their tm was less than half of the population.
    3. Sweles
      Sweles 23 December 2015 09: 39 New
      +4
      maybe there are impostors among the Cossacks, but why didn’t they remember the battles of our time between the Cossacks and the Ukrainians, such names as Ivchenko, Dremov, Kosogor and many more real heroes of our time who died NOW FOR THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE. For example, the battle for Debaltseve, when the Cossacks' contribution to the victory was decisive. It is terrible to think what uk_ry would have done to Donbas if these battles for Donbas were lost. Therefore, they are trying to forget their names, but such articles about "separatism", about the fact that there used to be Cossacks, and now mummers - all these are articles paid from one opera ...
      1. Malkor
        Malkor 23 December 2015 19: 40 New
        +2
        I am a Cossack, although I never wore Cossack clothes. Only I.D.O.T.T. thinks that the outfit determines a person’s belonging to any part of society.
        Sugarless or not, it does not matter, one should look at matters of upbringing as well.
        National clothes of any nation are interesting and beautiful.
        1. Sweles
          Sweles 23 December 2015 20: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Malkor
          I am a Cossack, although I never wore Cossack clothes. Only I.D.O.T.T. thinks that the outfit determines a person’s belonging to any part of society.
          Sugarless or not, it does not matter, one should look at matters of upbringing as well.
          National clothes of any nation are interesting and beautiful.


          It is necessary to wear YOURSELF, at least for the holidays and not be afraid that they will spit afterwards - "disguised" ...
  2. semirek
    semirek 23 December 2015 06: 46 New
    +3
    Indeed, everything is crumpled somehow, episodes from different eras are torn, it is not clear what the author wanted?
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 23 December 2015 07: 05 New
      +2
      semirek! "Indeed, everything is somehow crumpled, episodes from different eras are torn out, it is not clear what the author wanted?"
      I agree.)))) Apparently a mystery. And on Sholokhov so much muck has been poured lately. And he did not write, and the style is not the same and other x ... stick. And they found the manuscript.)))) And no one obeyed. Especially the director of the Mironenko archive. He himself saw on TV he said in an interview that the first part was not written by Sholokhov.
  3. Fox
    Fox 23 December 2015 06: 51 New
    +6
    my great-grandfather-Don Cossack Sokolovsky Ivan Fedorovich, the village of Kruchen Balka, also fought in Japan. George 4st had. But I don’t know where exactly he fought.
    and thank you for the article. in the Rostov archive what is ...
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 23 December 2015 07: 35 New
      +3
      fox "my great-grandfather-Don Cossack Sokolovsky Ivan Fedorovich, the village of Kruchen Balka, also fought in Japan. George 4st had. But this is exactly where he fought, I don’t know."
      In the local Rostov archive you can see lists and accounting documents regarding the village in which he was listed. In Moscow, the RGVIA stores documents about the unit in which he fought. There specifically in regiments and counties. If you do then you can find. Only archives work a little shaky))) This is a long song. Look paid services should be there. Getting there yourself is not easy, the direction should be from the university and the supervisor. It used to be. Now I won’t tell you.
      Look here this book used to be available. You go in and you type and it says which regiment it is awarded for. But where it fought there is not indicated. Indicated For difference in cases against the Japanese or for courage. Where he fought only in regimental documents can be established.
      “Insignia of the Military Order of St. George. Lists granted for the Russo-Japanese War of 1904–1905 ” Comp. D. Butrym, I. Markin.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 December 2015 07: 43 New
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        4 tbsp. for Christians 194123 Sokolovsky Ivan 1382
        4 tbsp. for Christians 204314 Sokolovsky Ivan 1480
        Here ...)))) I myself found I don’t know which one is yours.)))) After the word of Christians, the number of the cross is the last digits of the page of Butrym’s book.
      2. Fox
        Fox 23 December 2015 14: 23 New
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        Quote: Nagaibak
        Nagaybak (1)

        I am very grateful! I tried to find in the archive in the 90s ... there was complete sadness.
    2. avt
      avt 23 December 2015 13: 14 New
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      Quote: Fox
      . George 4CT had. But where exactly he fought, I do not know.
      and thank you for the article. in the Rostov archive what is ...

      In Podolsk, contact the MO archive, you will definitely find it there.
      Quote: Nagaibak
      Only archives work shaky not rolls)))

      Is there a “commercial service" - they will find and make copies quite specific.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 December 2015 13: 57 New
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        avt "In Podolsk contact the MO archive, you will definitely find it there."
        I welcome AVT !!!))) As far as I know, in Podolsk archives are only from the times of World War II to the present day.
        RGVIA - from ancient times to the 1st world.
        RGVA-civil war and until 1940, plus in my opinion some sort of archives of the internal affairs of that period ... maybe I'm wrong.
        1. avt
          avt 23 December 2015 21: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Nagaibak
          As far as I know in Podolsk archives only during the Great Patriotic War and to this day.

          hiI won’t say for sure, but through them their request seems to be promptly received.
  4. V.ic
    V.ic 23 December 2015 07: 42 New
    +5
    Cossack family does not translate.
  5. nimboris
    nimboris 23 December 2015 09: 38 New
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    In the upper picture there is a feeling that the Transbaikal Cossacks are depicted, not the Siberian ones. The sign of the "Lamaic" faith (Lamaism is Buddhism, professed by Tibetans, Mongols, Buryats and Kalmyks "northern Buddhism") was distinguished from the rest: the yellow band of the cap and yellow stripes, in the Siberian Cossacks the band and stripes are similar in color to the Don Cossacks of red hue. I myself am a descendant of the Transbaikal Cossacks from the Buryats. My grandmother, my father’s mother, talked about how her father, my great-grandfather, Gunsun Abiduyev, a Cossack of the 1st Verkhneudinsky cavalry regiment of the Trans-Baikal Cossack army, took part in the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-1905. He was delivered to Vladivostok via the newly-built Trans-Siberian Railway, then by ship along with his horse he was taken to Port Arthur. He fought near Mukden. He had two medals, which could not be established. He told her how at first the Donetsk people looked down on the Trans-Baikal people, and laughed at their manners: blowing their nose without a scarf, the habit of talking to each other "Parya!" (guy). However, after the first joint battle they respected deeply. His brother was a village ataman of the Selenga Steppe Duma. A participant in the First World War, the Soviet government, unlike his brother, did not accept and went with his family and cattle to Mongolia, and there he was a donkey. Whether fought in the white parts is unknown. But the descendants maintained communication and lived normally in Mongolia during the Soviet era. On the maternal side, Great-grandfather Dugarzhap (uncle's surname must be clarified, forgot) was the village ataman of the village of Tsagan-Usunskaya (now the village of Tsagan-Usun of the Dzhidinsky district of the Republic of Buryatia, where the border post is located). In the Chita archives, a representation of the St. George Cross of the 2nd degree was found on it. The Cossacks are not only Orthodoxy, but also foreigners of a different faith, faithful to their Fatherland - Russia.
    1. tasha
      tasha 23 December 2015 13: 20 New
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      Quote: nimboris
      The Cossacks are not only Orthodoxy, but also foreigners of a different faith, faithful to their Fatherland - Russia.
      1. nimboris
        nimboris 24 December 2015 03: 59 New
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        fellow countrymen from the neighboring Dzhidinsky district. hello from Kyakhta soldier my ancestors of my father’s mother are Cossacks from the Selenginsky district. The ancestors of my mother’s mother from Dzhidinsky, also from the Cossacks. My grandfathers are from ordinary poor families.
    2. tasha
      tasha 23 December 2015 13: 23 New
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      Here is another picture. And the text is “two Cossack soldiers”.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 December 2015 14: 31 New
        +3
        Add Nagaybakov.)))
      2. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 December 2015 14: 43 New
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        a few St. George cavaliers of the Nagaybaks.))) Pavel Safronov, the owner of three St. George crosses.
  6. aviator1913
    aviator1913 23 December 2015 10: 13 New
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    There are many problems in the Cossacks, starting from dividing into registered and not registered, mummers not mummers. Plus, financial issues greatly mow down this radio. Leapfrog with laws and certificates (I probably already receive 8 or 9 certificates, everything changes all the time, then print, then God knows what). Constantly scandals with chieftains ...

    Because of such things from a separate nationality, mono-ethnicity, porridge is unpleasant. There are no clear goals, no overall policy, no proper activity. All activity is obtained in tension and joint booze. (Since I quit drinking, I lost a significant part of my communication with the Cossacks from my native farm).
    1. Malkor
      Malkor 23 December 2015 19: 54 New
      +1
      Certificates and all that is not the point. To revive the Cossacks, we need to talk about the social role and the need for quality. Cossack - a citizen living on the border, having personal weapons, if necessary, instantly mobilizes or gathers in militias, for which he receives land from the state. As a result of its role in the defense of the state and status in society (a Cossack from Turkic is free, that is, not a enslaved peasant but has personal freedom), such an estate as the Cossacks is formed, patriotism, the connection of generations, conservatism, etc. are important for him.
      It seems to me in this vein that the Cossacks are relevant for Russia, especially as before along the border. It surprises me why liberals of free armed people in the service of the state dislike it so much. laughing . It’s understandable that you will not rob and business will not be squeezed.
  7. Geronimo73
    Geronimo73 23 December 2015 10: 22 New
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    the Cossacks as an estate cannot be restored now, because this skews the already poorly knit together Russian society. Cossacks are not only costumes of whip and song, these are special property rights, special relations with the state, which put the Cossacks on an unequal level with other parts of society. and without these very special conditions, the Cossacks are only a folklore ensemble and dialect groups of the Russian language. oh, in vain the state started this, one more crack on the Russian people.
    why then can’t we even restore the earplugs, the merchants, and so on ..?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 December 2015 11: 11 New
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      Quote: Geronimo73
      the ears cannot be restored,

      Give the rafters weapons and a license to shoot, with the subsequent transfer of tithe from the loot in favor of the state! The most active part of the population will prefer river rafting from the homeland to neighboring lands. Campaigns "for zipuns" instantly overtake all other tourist delights in the ranking!
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 23 December 2015 17: 44 New
      +1
      . Cossacks are not only costumes and songs,
      I believe that this COSSACKS can have only one privilege - to compatriots to serve in one unit. There will be separate Cossack companies, battalions — well, but no one who feels that he is a Cossack and should serve only perfectly, he is a descendant of the Don Cossacks.
  8. AlexSK
    AlexSK 23 December 2015 10: 52 New
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    1. Sweles
      Sweles 23 December 2015 11: 35 New
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      Zaporizhzhya March, March of the Cossacks of the victorious Cossack army Bogdan Khmelnitsky
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 23 December 2015 12: 09 New
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        Sveles "-Zaporizhzhya march, march of the Cossacks of the victorious Cossack army Bogdan Khmelnitsky."
        This is just a Polish musical sketch for the film on the theme of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. A kind of musical performance of Polish composers about Zaporizhzhya Cossacks.)))) Although the film was made by Jerzy Hoffmann. Who else could shoot a series of films based on the works of Senkevich about Poles and Cossacks as not a Jew?)))) What kind of march of Cossacks are you writing about?)))
        Such a normal Polish patriotic director. ))) From the wiki. "Born in a family of Polish Jews [2], who was deported to Siberia after the partition of Poland in 1939. His father, a doctor by profession, volunteered for the first division of the Polish Army Kosciuszko formed in the USSR.

        After the war, Jerzy Hoffmann returned to Poland. Studied in Bydgoszcz. In 1955 he graduated from the All-Union State Institute of Cinematography of the USSR in Moscow. In the same year he made his debut as a director. Best known for the adaptations of Henryk Sienkiewicz novels. In four films he played roles (in 3 of them he played himself), in two he was a storyteller. Honorary citizen of Bydgoszcz since 2003. "His wife is Russian in my opinion.

        "Laureate of film awards at several international competitions [3]. Awarded the prizes of the Polish Ministry of Culture.

        He was awarded the Order of Merit, III degree (Ukraine) [4].

        Selected filmography (director and screenwriter at the same time) [edit | edit wiki text]
        1963 - Gangsters and philanthropists (with Edward Skuzhevsky).
        1964 - Law and Fist (with Edward Skuzhevsky).
        1967 - Father
        1969 - Pan Volodyevsky (adaptation of the novel by Henryk Senkevich).
        1974 - Flood (film adaptation of the novel by Senkevich).
        1976 - Leper (based on Helena Mnishek's novel).
        1981 - Healer (film adaptation of the novel by Tadeusz Dolengi-Mostovich).
        1992 - The Beautiful Stranger
        1999 - Fire and sword (film adaptation of the novel by Senkevich).
        2003 - An old legend (film adaptation of the novel by Jozef Ignacy Kraszewski).
        2008 - Ukraine - The Formation of a Nation (documentary)
        2011 - Battle of Warsaw. 1920 "
        1. Sweles
          Sweles 23 December 2015 13: 24 New
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          Quote: Nagaibak
          This is just a Polish musical sketch for the film on the theme of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks.


          I know this, the film adaptation is Polish, it can be seen that the tramps fight against the professional iron-clad warriors, they represented the Cossacks, but this is not true, the Cossack army before Peter was MOST PROFESSIONAL and armed. I’m generally talking about MARCH itself, it’s very old music and who the author is is unknown, but this is what has come down to us from the time when the Cossacks were held in high esteem by the state ...
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 23 December 2015 19: 35 New
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        Quote: Sveles
        Zaporizhzhya March, March of the Cossacks of the victorious Cossack army Bogdan Khmelnitsky

        Dear, rinse your ears ... This musyka is a free arrangement of the folk song "Oh, to the mountains, the Zhinets are reaping." He who has ears, let him hear.
        1. Sweles
          Sweles 23 December 2015 20: 37 New
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          Quote: V.ic
          Dear, flush your ears


          well, you’ve got a bear in your ear laughing
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    2. V.ic
      V.ic 23 December 2015 19: 24 New
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      They served the Turkish Sultan, Nekrasov dogs ...
  9. revnagan
    revnagan 23 December 2015 12: 48 New
    +9
    I apologize, not mine, but it suits the "well-dressed" Cossacks (especially Ukrainian) perfectly:

    "There was a Cossack somewhere in the distance.
    On the chest was a medal:

    "For courage", "For the victory",
    "For a pleasant chat,"
    "For the scientific works"
    "For the protection of the whole environment",
    two astronaut medals,
    Warcraft player order,
    putting the TRP symbol,
    "Passage THAT",
    Pregnancy Club "Crane",
    Wardrobe DK "Hydraulics",
    "Altavista dot com",
    "Society of fungus patients",
    The captain of the game "Zarnitsa"
    "Gomel mental hospital",
    snuffbox, and flint,
    eight caps from beer,
    "Gypsy Dance Festival"
    "Crane operator, work in a helmet!"
    "Beware of the bike,"
    "Thirty-eight Years of Victory"
    Order of the RSFSR,
    secret order "Templar"
    gum liner "Lyolik-Bolik"
    "Anonymous alcoholic",
    "Club of wine connoisseurs",
    Symbol of shit punk,
    SUSE-Linux, Business Tim,
    “Tynda is a twin city”
    "The most experienced driver"
    "The best boar-maker",
    sign "Honorary diver",
    sticker "Putin-"
    Oktyabryatskaya star,
    "The heroine mother of labor"
    blood type, and Ay-Pi,
    and the pacific on the chain.

    Suddenly a Cossack slipped ...
    And medals - herak!
    And now medals are all
    rolled on the highway.

    Kids! Uncles, aunts!
    If you find anywhere:

    Order of Glory, Order of Peace,
    a button with the coat of arms of Algeria,
    bauble, can opener,
    malachite brooch,
    Red Cross, Peter's Cross
    "City of Prague", "City of Brest",
    "Regimental Nurse",
    "Childhood is a wonderful time,"
    Esperanto, CSKA,
    Forester’s personal number
    cufflinks to military uniform
    "The best turner", "Exhaust is normal",
    "Lose weight in five minutes"
    Youth club "Sohnud",
    "KGB", "Honorary Donor",
    “Elena Bonner Private Foundation”,
    "Chechen Fashion Festival",
    ticker fidoshnoj nody -

    even a medal, even a badge
    share with the Cossack! "
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 December 2015 19: 40 New
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      Quote: revnagan
      even a medal, even a badge
      share with the Cossack! "

      You’ll flog the garbage ... Under a mock condemnation of dill on a shovel, they threw a bunch of manure. Eat it yourself! One hundred and fifty minuses to your throat !.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 23 December 2015 21: 23 New
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        Quote: V.ic
        Under a mock condemnation of dill, a heap of manure was thrown on a shovel.

        And dill too. But mainly manure is intended for all "mummers" clowns. Self-proclaimed "esaulam", "chieftains" with sabers from springs and purchase orders, which they reward themselves and each other. They themselves do not understand that they look sorry, amusing themselves with cheap "show-offs" with stretched stripes and dads. Approximately as " Cossacks "from this song.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmxDvT1CgFM
  10. timothy61
    timothy61 23 December 2015 13: 37 New
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    | Confusedly, but since 96, this is how it happened and is happening
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  13. alicante11
    alicante11 23 December 2015 15: 00 New
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    Gentlemen, comrades, I beg you! Well, what could be the Cossacks now? What was the Don Army? The guardians of the southern borders of the Moscow state. What was the Ural or Siberian, Amur Cossack army? These were the guardians of the eastern borders of the Empire. They lived on the border, next to enemies with a saber in one hand and a plow in the other. And what boundaries do modern "stanitsi" observe now? Well, perhaps in the Caucasus they opposed North Caucasian terrorism in the dashing 90. And the rest were guarded by warehouses and cottages. And even then they probably didn’t guard, but roofed. By the way, the death of the Cossacks after the Revolution is an objective process that began long before the 17 year. Take the same Sholokhov, or what is closer to me, the gray-haired "Dauria". It shows how money and the difference in economic situation erode the Cossack monolith. A Cossack elite is formed and its Cossack pariahs, no one is interested in the combat feats of them, because the cat has cried out of their wrecked hut and land. And their St. George's crosses, worn on rags, do not cause respect for anyone. And therefore, many, many Cossacks abandoned the Cossack rank. Because they did not see the difference between the life of the poor "Cossack" and "nonresident". But only rich people and reference Cossacks held on to Cossack privileges, naturally, there were a minority of them and therefore they could not win.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 December 2015 19: 44 New
      -3
      Quote: alicante11
      But only rich people and reference Cossacks held on to Cossack privileges, naturally, there were a minority of them and therefore they could not win.

      And who then went into the attack against the “Krasnyuk"? The mythical "cadets"? The Donets, the Urals, the Trans-Baikal, the Ussuriites were the spearhead of the struggle against Trotsky's chicks!
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 23 December 2015 21: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: V.ic
        The Donets, the Urals, the Trans-Baikal, the Ussuriites were the spearhead of the struggle against Trotsky's chicks!

        ... as long as the "white movement" prevailed. As soon as a turning point was observed, and the Reds drove the whites in all directions, the Cossack quickly ran into the hamlets and villages. Yes, and among the Reds there were enough skilled Cossacks - a warrior from the poor. the "point" can also be argued: but what about the Kornilovites, Markovites, Drozdovites?
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 24 December 2015 06: 40 New
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          Quote: revnagan
          But what about the Kornilovites, Markovites, Drozdovites?

          Infantry, I agree. And the Cossacks cavalry!
      2. nimboris
        nimboris 24 December 2015 04: 11 New
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        For all the Cossacks do not speak, they are also divided into those for the red and white. It is correctly said above who is more victorious for the Reds, who is richer - for the Whites. My ancestors confirm this.
  14. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 23 December 2015 15: 56 New
    +3
    Somehow, the author completely lost the Cossack separatism of the Civil era. But to the same Krasnov, according to the laws of the Russian Empire and the Republic, the "tower" was shone.
    An officer of the Empire and the Republic, formally at war with Germany, writes to the Kaiser with a request to recognize the independence of part of the territory of the Empire and help expand its borders. And in exchange, it promises neutralization and food supplies bypassing the British blockade.
    The Ataman of our Winter Village at the court of Your Imperial Majesty is authorized by me to ask your Imperial Majesty recognize the rights of the Great Don Army to independent existence, and with the release of the last Kuban, Astrakhan and Terek troops and the North Caucasus, the right to independent existence of the entire federation under the name of the Don Caucasian Union.
    Request to recognize Your Imperial Majesty the borders of the Great Don Army in its previous geographical and ethnographic sizes, to help resolve the dispute between Ukraine and the Don Army over Taganrog and its district in favor of the Don Army, which has owned the Taganrog District for more than five hundred years and for which the Taganrog District is part of Tmutarakan, from which the Don Army became.
    To ask your majesty to facilitate the accession to the Army for strategic reasons of the cities of Kamyshin and Tsaritsyn of the Saratov province and the city of Voronezh and the station Liski and Povorino and draw the border of the Don Army, as indicated on the map available in the Winter Village.
    To ask Your Majesty to exert pressure on the Soviet authorities of Moscow and force them to clear the limits of the All-Great Army of the Don and other powers that have entered the Don Caucus Union from the robber detachments of the Red Guard and give an opportunity to restore normal, peaceful relations between Moscow and the Don Army. All losses of the population of the Don, Trade and Industry Troops resulting from the invasion of the Bolsheviks should be compensated by Soviet Russia.
    Request Your Imperial Majesty to help our young state with guns, rifles, ammunition and engineering equipment and, if you recognize it as profitable, to establish within the framework of the Don Don Army gun, gun, shell and ammunition plants.
    (...)
    The Great Don Army commits itself to the service of Your Imperial Majesty to observe complete neutrality during the world struggle of peoples and not to allow armed forces hostile to the German people on its territory, to which the ataman of the Astrakhan army, the prince Tundutov, and the Kuban government, and upon joining the rest of the Don Caucasus Union, gave their consent.
    The Great Don Army provides the German Empire the right to preferentially export excess to meet local needs of bread, grain and flour, leather goods and raw materials, wool, fish products, vegetable and animal fats and oils and products thereof, tobacco products and products, livestock and horses, grape wine and other gardening products and farmingin return, the German Empire will deliver agricultural machinery, chemicals and tanning extracts, expedition equipment for the procurement of government papers with an appropriate supply of materials, equipment for cloth, cotton, leather, chemical, sugar and other factories and electrical equipment.
    (...)
    A close agreement promises mutual benefits, and friendship, soldered by blood shed on the common battlefields of the warlike peoples of the Germans and Cossacks, will become a powerful force to fight all our enemies.
  15. Zoc10
    Zoc10 23 December 2015 16: 43 New
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    Where can I find the books of Oleg Chuvakin referred to in the article? In an Internet dig, gives out only our contemporary (
    1. efimovaPE
      23 December 2015 20: 12 New
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      http://olegchuvakin.ru/

      I read here.
  16. Evrepid
    Evrepid 23 December 2015 16: 46 New
    +4
    What I would like to say:
    1) Guys what: "Runaway peasants"? Since when did the Khazars become fugitive on their land?
    2) "Tame" - let's remember what the kings wrote in their letters to other rulers? In fact: ... Kill the Cossacks ... in different interpretations, but the essence is the same!
    3) "Separatism" is also a rather interesting statement. We open the poems of Pushkin and read: ... "The vile Cossack" does not allow the "good" Chechen to steal the girl from the Cossack village.
    4) The whole history of the Russian state says: Deceive the Cossack! :) The so-called riots of Stepan Razin, Kondraty Bulavinai etc. If you read carefully, it turns out that they were rising because the "kings" should have money .. "Lenders" came to take the debt :)
    5) I recently listened to excerpts from the writings of Russian authors about the liberation of Moscow from the Poles: ... well done Nizhny Novgorod! Sent for help to the Cossacks! The remote and warlike Cossacks screamed at the Poles and defeated the Polish regiments, but quarrels began between Nizhny Novgorod and the Cossacks! And the vile Cossacks said: "If so, then fight yourself!" and left. The Poles saw this and rushed again to attack and beat Nizhny Novgorod. The monk the old man gathered here and went to the Cossacks. As he begged, persuaded, promised the Cossacks treasury, exhorted vile people, that would help Nizhny Novgorod! Cossacks agreed and helped Nizhny Novgorod, seized positions from the Poles ... "

    And so forth ...
    It looks very very unsightly ... How to look for protection so cute help, and then vile ... :)

    I can only say: Do not put a minus until you read the information and compare the facts.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 December 2015 17: 36 New
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      Quote: Evrepid
      5) I recently listened to excerpts from the writings of Russian authors about the liberation of Moscow from the Poles: ... well done Nizhny Novgorod! Sent for help to the Cossacks! The remote and warlike Cossacks screamed at the Poles and defeated the Polish regiments, but quarrels began between Nizhny Novgorod and the Cossacks! And the vile Cossacks said: "If so, then fight yourself!" and left. The Poles saw this and rushed again to attack and beat Nizhny Novgorod. The monk the old man gathered here and went to the Cossacks. As he begged, persuaded, promised the Cossacks treasury, exhorted vile people, that would help Nizhny Novgorod! Cossacks agreed and helped Nizhny Novgorod, seized positions from the Poles ... "

      And so forth ...
      It looks very very unsightly ... How to look for protection so cute help, and then vile ... :)

      Heh heh heh ... but can you tell me what the Cossacks did in Moscow?

      Who actively supported both False Dmitriyes there (out of 100 thousand troops of the Tushinsky Thief, 45 thousand are Cossacks)? Who managed to push the False Peter out of their midst to the peak of False Dmitry I? Who arranged the Cossack camps near Moscow, who hunted in Moscow and Moscow region?

      And who sided with Minin and Pozharsky only after they were promised to pay from the monastery treasury?
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 23 December 2015 19: 48 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        And who sided with Minin and Pozharsky only after they were promised to pay from the monastery treasury?

        Do you think WAR is a free enterprise? According to the proverb, even a pimple does not jump for nothing because a cold is needed.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 24 December 2015 10: 22 New
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          Quote: V.ic
          Do you think WAR is a free enterprise? According to the proverb, even a pimple does not jump for nothing because a cold is needed.

          No, I don’t think so. But there is no need to expose ordinary mercenaries serving the one who pays the most, as guardians for the fate of the motherland and patriots of Russia.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 23 December 2015 20: 56 New
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      Evrepid "1) Guys what:" Runaway peasants? "Since when did the Khazars become runaway on their land?"
      I understand that you own the Khazar?))) And all the Cossacks in Khazar Gutara?))))
      1. Evrepid
        Evrepid 25 December 2015 10: 02 New
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        Well, my friend ... The Khazar Khaganate was a big, a lot of national, multilingual, with many religions state. In particular: Christianity. Muslims, Judaism, etc.
        So if you heard what the southerners say, you should understand that Russian is not entirely native to them. The physical structure of the throat is different. :(

        And how do you then interpret the phrase: “There is no extradition from the Don!” Is it a runaway or something they should have given themselves ??
        Make friends with the logic! And hence the conclusion: Cossacks are not runaway peasants! The runaway (alien) was not supposed to be, their children and grandchildren could be.
  17. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 23 December 2015 19: 32 New
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    Quote: kotvov
    . Cossacks are not only costumes and songs,
    I believe that this COSSACKS can have only one privilege - to compatriots to serve in one unit. There will be separate Cossack companies, battalions — well, but no one who feels that he is a Cossack and should serve only perfectly, he is a descendant of the Don Cossacks.

    I agree Brother! from the Volga BOW Those!
  18. basmach
    basmach 23 December 2015 20: 24 New
    +3
    Yeah, it seems that the “new” old savior of Russia showed up here, reliable and supportive. So maybe, just for the sake of it, remember 1612, who besieged Moscow together with the Poles (and, according to eyewitnesses, they worse than the Poles). Razin was also a hunter for zipuns, not only on the other side of the Don, but also on this one. Kornilov’s “ice campaign” was he going to the Don, for support to the Cossacks — did they support him a lot? (No king, no taxes, no land, why should I fight for him). At the same time, remember the “heroic” atamans of Shkuro and Krasnov, as well as how they fought on the side of the Wehrmacht (and at the same time the Cossack division in its composition). When one of these two invited Denikin to serve the Germans, he replied that he was at war with the Bolsheviks, and not with Russia. (By the way, those two suffered the fate of Judah-hung-bullet for a noble death). As it does not fit all the time, such a "nobility" in the positive image of saviors. All selfish interests. I do not want to offend those who really live and act according to the principles and beliefs - they are just a minority and not very visible, they are not used to climbing into the front ranks, but the whole scum is at the top.
    1. Evrepid
      Evrepid 25 December 2015 10: 15 New
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      Of course we remember! We remember that the Cossacks were for the Poles, we remember that they were against the Poles in the same 1612, so I don’t personally understand the premise: "Unity of the Fatherland!" I wonder who my ancestors united with? With yourself against yourself?
      Bir! Brain explosion!

      As for separatism, I’ll give you an example: the European Hockey Championship, the opening of the Channel One Cup, Luzhkov is playing ... Listen, if you find anywhere in the record. There is separatism in full growth!

      There are a lot of foreigners in the hall, and this person carries (literally): "... here we stopped: the Swedes, Poles, Germans ... And all in all a good evening ..."

      In the hall (30000 people) they silently look at the arena ... The curtain ...
  19. Bijo
    Bijo 23 December 2015 20: 46 New
    +1
    Whatever all the owners of the Cossacks say, but in the events in the Crimea and the east of Ukraine, the Cossacks turned out to be, according to Gumilyov, the most passionate part of our society. I personally know the Cossacks (the Kuban Cossack Army), who were very actively involved and are participating in events in Ukraine.
  20. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 23 December 2015 21: 18 New
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    For lovers of the Khazar language.))))
    Merzlikina O.G.
    “ALONG THE URALS OF THE COAST ...”: Ethnosocial
    History of the Yaitsk (Ural) Cossacks (end of the XVI
    - second half of the XNUMXth centuries): Monograph. Samara:
    Publishing house of SSPU, 2006 .-- 224 p.
    "The idea of ​​the ethnosocial composition of the egg Cossack-
    wa in the first quarter of the XVIII century. give and the results of preserved
    in the census of the RGVIA conducted in 1723 by Colonel Zakhar-
    you m
    99
    According to the data, the majority of Cossacks,
    going to Yaik at the end of the XVII century., came from the central
    n provinces of Russia (Moscow, Tambov, Ryazan,
    Vladimir, Simbirsk, etc.). Ethnically,
    according to A. B. Karpov, in 1723 out of 5771 Cossacks only
    186 people were of non-Russian origin (Kalmyks, Tatars,
    Bashkirs, Poles, Mordvinians, Swedes, Nogais, Finns, etc.).
    Visual representation of the specifics of ethnic composition
    Yaitsky Cossacks in the 20s. XVIII century gives table 1.
    Table 1
    Non-Russian population as part of the Yaitsky Cossack army100
    No. Nationality Number of people
    1. Tatars 70
    2. Bashkirs 49
    3. Kalmyks 43
    4. Poles 29
    5. Mordva 7
    6. Swedes 5
    7. Chuvashs 1
    8. Turks 1
    9. The Germans 1

    98 ibid. C. 289.
    99 RGVIA. F.13. Op. 1/ 107. St. 23. E.3. total - 1015 l.
    100 Ibid. Website of electronic publications and materials of SF SPbGUP
    39
    As can be seen from the table, the largest number among pre-
    the non-Russian population of the Cossacks
    Tatars and Bashkirs. This provision was due, in the first
    the fact of living in neighboring territories. "
    Decree Op. Page 38.
    Not ... well, of course we can say ... that the census document was forged by the Romanovs like everything else.)))
    ???
  21. shura7782
    shura7782 23 December 2015 21: 36 New
    +2
    The husk will fly off and everything will turn out for the Cossacks.
    Thank God they are Cossacks!
  22. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 2 November 2016 19: 48 New
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    Quote from the article:
    "... and filed an act to write off money in the amount of 30 million rubles."

    Where did such a large accountable money come from the village chieftain, almost $ 1 million. And this is not the only act.