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Defense Ministry: a blow to the NUAI will not lead to the destruction of the entire military leadership

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The creation of the National Center for Defense Management (NUAU) does not create a threat of the destruction of the entire leadership of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as it is a distributed network structure, it reports TASS Post Deputy Center Andrei Matyukhin.


Defense Ministry: a blow to the NUAI will not lead to the destruction of the entire military leadership


“By creating the National Center, we have never violated the system of remote control points for various purposes, including the state, where we also have organized operational duty shift shifts, which even on unoccupied control points of the operational staff in the daily mode support the operation of all technical means of information transmission, combat signal on management, are always in readiness to accept operational structure, in order that they worked, as public authorities, the head state and controls the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces " - said Matyukhin on the radio “PCN”.

“In the event of any emergency situation, the duty officer, who is on duty at the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation, is given no more than 5 minutes to sort out the situation and issue proposals for the application of priority measures,” he explained.

“At the same time, he has the right to give instructions on the implementation of the developed measures to eliminate abnormal situations. Within no more than 30 minutes, he should provide the Defense Ministry with information on this situation processed by a certain order, so that officials, who must arrive at their workplaces at that time, can start to fulfill their duties, ”said Matyukhin.

According to him, “in no more than 1-2 hours should be complete information with the adoption of all necessary decisions that will be carried out by the troops.”

"At the same time, the necessary signals about bringing the troops into the necessary state for response will be parallel, including at the command of the duty general," added Matyukhin.
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Alexey Nikolsky / Press Service of the President of the Russian Federation / TASS
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  1. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 20 December 2015 13: 14
    10
    why would such frankness ah? what
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 20 December 2015 13: 16
      37
      Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
      why would such frankness ah? what

      There is such a plan, probably in the west ... So once and for all! One Echo of Moscow broadcasts " bully
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 20 December 2015 13: 23
        +6
        Hooray fiction comes to us. Cloning is now in fashion. Give each district Shoigu and the commander in chief. laughing laughing laughing (sarcasm) Seriously, even where you sit there. The main thing is that professionals should be put on different separated PUs and they should have complete information from all sources.
      2. sssla
        sssla 20 December 2015 13: 26
        22
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        There is probably such a plan in the west ... So that’s all!

        Everyone always has plans !!!
        But the first priority is the elimination of the "tsar" - mark my word again !!!
        1. cniza
          cniza 20 December 2015 13: 35
          +6
          Quote: sssla
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          There is probably such a plan in the west ... So that’s all!

          Everyone always has plans !!!
          But the first priority is the elimination of the "tsar" - mark my word again !!!



          And there is such a plan, but probably there is a countermeasure.
          1. sssla
            sssla 20 December 2015 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            there are probably countermeasures.

            And they are 100% there BUT the main thing is that the vermicelli would not be thinner than the holes in the drushlag !! ))) One according to the law is mean and crawls through!
            1. cniza
              cniza 20 December 2015 13: 49
              15
              There are two whole options here: either do not let the vermicelli "lose weight", or replace the colander with a sitichko.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 20 December 2015 14: 15
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                There are two whole options here: either do not let the vermicelli "lose weight", or replace the colander with a sitichko.

                And I propose to blow each "vermicelli" separately! yes
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                2. a.hamster55
                  a.hamster55 20 December 2015 16: 35
                  +9
                  Are you sorry not from the Kalinar technical school? And then you have specific terms! Each unit has a package of priority tasks in case "X" and the commander makes a decision. THE COMMANDER makes a DECISION !!! For those who know Our plans, it is known from the traitors that military unit No. ... in 3 hours should relocate to the area N and the enemy strikes there - ha, and We have not left the places of the pd.
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 20 December 2015 17: 09
                    +4
                    Quote: a.hamster55
                    Do you accidentally apologize not from the Kalinar technical school? And then your terms are specific!

                    Greetings to my fellow countryman! I am not only your fellow countryman, but apparently also the same age - since 1955. I did not graduate from the Kalinar College, but as far as I know, they do not teach there how to blow pasta. laughing
                    "Blowing every vermicelli" - I meant to deal personally with each potential traitor or enemy, and not dump them in a "colander or strainer", as suggested by "cniza". hi
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                    2. a.hamster55
                      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 17: 31
                      +1
                      Greetings ! I didn’t even see P-15, I’m a little familiar with P-18.
                      1. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 20 December 2015 17: 39
                        0
                        Quote: a.hamster55
                        Greetings ! I didn’t even see P-15, I’m a little familiar with P-18.

                        And I was not familiar with the P-18. But from the photo I see that it is very reminiscent of the P-12, which was standing next to my P-15, only that one was towed and the P-18 was on the car chassis. He served in the Brest region. Kobrin city.
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                      3. a.hamster55
                        a.hamster55 20 December 2015 17: 52
                        +2
                        Ivano-Frankivsk, Zerbst. Kizyl-Arvat, Knyazevolkonskoye, Torzhok - currently unemployed pensioner fellow
                      4. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 20 December 2015 17: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: a.hamster55
                        Ivano-Frankivsk, Zerbst. Kizyl-Arvat, Knyazevolkonskoye, Torzhok - currently unemployed pensioner

                        good drinks
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                      6. a.hamster55
                        a.hamster55 20 December 2015 18: 27
                        +1
                        Yes ! For those who remember how it should be! And according to Christ's commandments and the moral code of builders ... drinks
          2. sssla
            sssla 20 December 2015 17: 29
            0
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I propose to blow each "vermicelli" separately!

            There is another procedure hi
          3. midivan
            midivan 21 December 2015 04: 01
            +6
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And I propose to blow each "vermicelli" separately!

            still her mono at an angle of 90 degrees for (on) bending the identity will not work bully
            1. northern
              northern 22 December 2015 14: 47
              0
              Many times it has already been noticed if Putin puts on a black tie ... in general, there will be no jokes.
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      4. Junior, I
        Junior, I 20 December 2015 16: 02
        +2
        One according to the law of vile yes crawls through!

        According to Murphy's Law.
    2. nemo778
      nemo778 21 December 2015 03: 41
      +2
      Let them try !!! hi love And more !!! https: //youtu.be/oj6rD-1k98o hi soldier
      1. nemo778
        nemo778 21 December 2015 04: 10
        +3
        Or maybe SO! GOD FORBID!!! crying
        1. msm
          msm 22 December 2015 19: 55
          0
          So what are we waiting for! I am ready for anything!
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  3. rassel0889
    rassel0889 20 December 2015 14: 44
    +2
    Tipun to your tongue!
  4. WKS
    WKS 20 December 2015 17: 19
    +3
    Quote: sssla
    But the first priority is the elimination of the "tsar" - mark my word again !!!

    There is also a plan for this case. Since Soviet times, everything is thought out. It will not do without a weighty retaliatory strike, even if they do not hope.
    1. jPilot
      jPilot 20 December 2015 18: 03
      +3
      I completely agree with you. Everything that is written in the article was invented developed and worked out under the USSR. The control center, as I understand it, is just the place where all the operational information of the RF Armed Forces is collected. But each part can and has corresponding instructions for actions when receiving information of Ch. For this, there are duty officers on duty and operational duty on a round-the-clock duty ....... and everyone has access to the duty general, and now I understand that control center. So if, that the whole combat vehicle of the country wakes up and comes to one of the degrees of BG, as a single organism.
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      2. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 20 December 2015 18: 46
        +1
        Yes, of course! After all, if the sign "Very Big Bank" does not mean that the money is right in the lobby fellow
      3. Maj.
        Maj. 20 December 2015 23: 08
        -4
        I want to believe, but I don’t believe it. Foolishness and incompetence + unlearnedness flourish
  5. Maj.
    Maj. 20 December 2015 23: 04
    -1
    God forbid, God bless our king and us with him
  6. Archon
    Archon 21 December 2015 14: 20
    0
    GDP should be digitized as in the film "superiority" and launched into the global network, so that everyone has GDP in their home, in their smartphones and everywhere
  • Same lech
    Same lech 20 December 2015 13: 20
    20
    why would such frankness ah?

    Rather, an element of information war amid the joy of the Romanians in the construction of US missile defense elements.

    If the Americans do not stop with their expansion east to the borders of RUSSIA, the situation will only worsen, the threat of war will increase in direct proportion to the approach of the US military machine to us .... the air smells clearly of gunpowder.
    1. Minstrel
      Minstrel 20 December 2015 15: 58
      10
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      amid the joy of romanians

      The joy of the Romanians, reminiscent of the joy of a man who lay down in a coffin, was covered with a sheet and asks his neighbor to cover him, hammer in nails and carry and bury him in the cemetery.
      Do they really not understand that if they begin, they will be one of the first to fly. Either this is masochism, or the desire to have moon craters in Romania instead of mountains ... what
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 20 December 2015 13: 24
    17
    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    why would such frankness ah? what

    To that. The situation is very tense. Someday, if the current situation ends happily for humanity, we will find out how close were to the Third World War. The Caribbean Crisis 2.0 is still ongoing.
    By the way, the deputy head of the NTSUO RF did not mention a lot of things from the reserve defense management structures. The same "doomsday plane", for example
    1. sssla
      sssla 20 December 2015 13: 28
      +1
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      didn’t mention a lot of things from the reserve defense management structures

      Work on it too don't worry hi
      1. cap
        cap 20 December 2015 18: 42
        +4
        Quote: sssla
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        didn’t mention a lot of things from the reserve defense management structures

        Over it too work don't worry hi

        "Work" for health. You are our civilian.
        All the husks about KP, ZKP, VKP in the media are just for you.
        People who served in the troops of constant readiness know that their current colleagues will receive only a coded signal.
        Then what will happen is what the Supreme Commander of Russia V.V. Putin:
        "READY OR NOT, HERE I COME".
        And to your great regret, you will become unemployed, due to the lack of an employer. hi
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        2. a.hamster55
          a.hamster55 20 December 2015 18: 52
          12
          I’m sorry, but this is the second time in three days. But it seems to be the topic. Do not judge strictly.
          1. cap
            cap 20 December 2015 19: 27
            +1
            Quote: a.hamster55
            I’m sorry, but this is the second time in three days. But it seems to be the topic. Do not judge strictly.

            Very much in the subject.
            I just meant it laughing .
    2. jPilot
      jPilot 20 December 2015 18: 11
      +2
      Doomsday Aircraft does not exist hi wink but the rocket yes, it exists and it will take off only if we cease (unfortunately) for some reason to exist. And if it takes off, then the rest of the world also does not live, EVERYTHING.
      1. Maj.
        Maj. 20 December 2015 23: 15
        -2
        if they don’t bring her down
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      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 21 December 2015 01: 53
        +2
        Quote: jPilot
        Doomsday Aircraft does not exist

        Yes, I don't give a damn about the unofficial name of the VSPU - the main thing is that he was able to fully fulfill his task. And we will leave the naming of "doomsday" or "last hour" for journalists - it sounds beautiful. Yes, even if you call a "big fox", the essence will not change.
  • vell.65
    vell.65 20 December 2015 19: 07
    +1
    Quote: Yozhkin Cat
    why would such frankness ah?

    I think that everyone should do his own thing, and the army will protect us !!!
  • Skif83
    Skif83 20 December 2015 19: 47
    +1
    Well, hopefully, we do not have one such NTSUO, there should be unannounced "doubles".
    The only thing is, 1-2 hours to make a decision when struck by hypersonic missiles is not a bit much?
    1. Maj.
      Maj. 20 December 2015 23: 16
      -2
      Enough to destroy us
    2. andj61
      andj61 21 December 2015 08: 03
      0
      Quote: Skif83
      The only thing is, 1-2 hours to make a decision when struck by hypersonic missiles is not a bit much?

      1-2 hours - this is to restore the control system. A retaliatory strike is delivered immediately after the launch of enemy missiles, without waiting for their explosions in our territory. After this, the second phase of the conflict is already beginning.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 20 December 2015 19: 52
    0
    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    why would such frankness ah? what


    Apparently another McCain blurted out something about the destruction of the center. So he answered between the case.
  • Nick
    Nick 20 December 2015 20: 01
    +1
    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    why would such frankness ah? what

    Well, actually, this secret has not been a secret for a long time. Back in Stalin's time, reserve control centers were created, one in Kuibyshev was built by Moscow metro builders immediately at the beginning of the war. In addition, there are still flying command posts. They were still being designed in the 60's for commanders in case of a major conflict
  • avvg
    avvg 20 December 2015 13: 15
    +2
    Any non-standard situation, the main thing is not to waste time in vain.
  • venaya
    venaya 20 December 2015 13: 16
    +5
    By creating the National Center, we have never violated the system of spaced control points for various purposes, including state

    This center facilitates management work, it is good that the duplication of management systems are not disabled at the same time.
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 20 December 2015 13: 17
    +4
    no more than 5 minutes are allotted to understand the situation and give suggestions on the application of priority measures, ”he explained.


    And how much does a rocket fly from Europe? There are probably ready-made solutions in this area ... Moscow’s air defense is probably not stronger, so that they are not afraid there ... wink
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    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 16: 45
      0
      While it is considered a promising attack from the north with a submarine. But soon we will be ready for this.
  • RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 20 December 2015 13: 18
    +2
    NTSUO is a very useful, operational, modern control system for all forces of the Russian Federation. I think that many "friends" in the West are very jealous.
  • Monos
    Monos 20 December 2015 13: 18
    10
    The "Perimeter" system is the best "duty officer in the country".
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 13: 18
    +1
    I don’t believe that there are such generals who independently undertake something within 5 and 65 minutes; shoulder straps are more expensive and I think that spare positions for all generals have already been prepared
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 20 December 2015 13: 24
      12
      Quote: Leshy74
      reserve positions for all generals are already prepared I think

      On the moon? Or away, on Mars, Venus?
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 13: 30
        -2
        Well, not so far as you think, on earth:) - but about the cloud of individuals sitting and staring at the screen, in the Ministry of Emergencies, too, crap, and what is a lot of sense? - how it burned and exploded, and it burns - a lot of these monitor figures they put it on, and there are too many eyes on the square meter, this is not a tsup and not a selector in Mchsovsky, this is defense, what secrets should there still be?
    2. sssla
      sssla 20 December 2015 13: 30
      +1
      Quote: Leshy74
      I do not believe that there are such generals who independently undertake something within 5 and 65 minutes,

      Read carefully !!
      that deal in a situation and give suggestions on priority measures
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 13: 40
        +1
        I used to think that in each unit (large let's say so) there should be packages with instructions for each case, just the priority measures
        1. Extraneous
          Extraneous 20 December 2015 15: 58
          +3
          You won’t get enough packages for every case. They are intended, as I understand it, in the case of global, calculated actions. Or in case of certain crisis situations when performing a local task.
          In a constantly changing environment of hostilities - do not play a role.
        2. Minstrel
          Minstrel 20 December 2015 16: 03
          +1
          Quote: Leshy74
          I used to think that in each unit (large let's say so) there should be packages with instructions for each case, just the priority measures

          Well, to open the envelopes, a command must come from above - some "Volcano" or "Typhoon" or something else. In accordance with this command, the required package is opened.
    3. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 16: 58
      -1
      In which regiment did you serve the Goblin? And did they serve? SHOWER TO GOD, SEAT - WOMAN, DEBT - TO FATHERLAND, HONOR -N AND KO M U! And you see nerus mishandled.
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 22: 38
        +1
        you barked about what you had sent — not knowing anything about me — but I know for sure that you (the individual) were sent :) good luck on the way :)
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 December 2015 13: 25
    +2
    This creates an understanding of the inevitability of "retaliation", with subsequent catastrophic damage to the aggressor. This is what keeps the "partners" from abrupt movements. Though they grit their teeth.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 20 December 2015 13: 26
    +2
    “At the same time, he has the right to give instructions on the implementation of the developed measures to eliminate abnormal situations. Within no more than 30 minutes, he should provide the Defense Ministry with information on this situation processed by a certain order, so that officials, who must arrive at their workplaces at that time, can start to fulfill their duties, ”said Matyukhin.


    In 30 minutes Moscow will not be like Europe.

    And I hope that this is just a functioning, but distracting center and somewhere there is a real one, not a demo one. Otherwise, this is idiocy.
    1. sssla
      sssla 20 December 2015 13: 32
      +3
      Quote: NordUral
      In 30 minutes Moscow will not be like Europe.

      In this situation that you represent (I hope I understand you correctly) there will be a different algorithm of actions and execution time !!!
      Rest assured!
    2. shans2
      shans2 20 December 2015 14: 41
      0
      In the Urals, under the mountain)
  • Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 20 December 2015 13: 28
    -2
    General on duty - this sounds almost the same as the wedding one. Duty officer is a temporary (watch, daily, for the time of duty) position, for example, "Duty on NTSUO", if you like. One might not even mention the great title. Imagine a bandage with the inscription "General on duty" and the corresponding token.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 December 2015 14: 46
      +1
      Nothing - "generals on duty", at the suggestion of the president, will quickly decide on the use of nuclear weapons.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 20 December 2015 14: 57
      +5
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      Imagine a bandage with the inscription "General on duty" and the corresponding token.



      Hmm ... In the Strategic Missile Forces, this position is called: "Commander of the duty forces" ... And it is he, and not the real divisional commander, who will give the command for the combat use of missiles in the event of the outbreak of hostilities ...

      They often recall that Shoigu is an Emergencies Ministry-sheep ... So he is the Minister of Defense, who is engaged in the construction and support of the Armed Forces in peacetime, but the General Staff is planning and organizing combat training of troops ...

      And the degree of increased combat readiness is somewhat ... And at the beginning of hostilities, the post of Minister of Defense - is canceled, only the Supreme High Command and the National High Command remain, and the war is practically the National High Command under the political (!!!) leadership of the High Command ...

      What to guess now - what will be in time, what the duty general will not have time to do ... Everything has been planned and calculated for a long time, and even if the Supreme High Command and the National High School do not have time to arrive at the NLPP, an answer will be given anyway ...

      And I am sure that the "general on duty" will clearly fulfill his duties in accordance with the instructions given to him by the contents of package No. 1 ...

      Let's not guess ... Let's just hope that the next aggravation will not lead to the final Apocalypse ...
      1. Sergey-8848
        Sergey-8848 20 December 2015 20: 27
        +2
        Here, after all, what it looks like - in your opinion (and rightly so), the position is named accordingly, but at the suggestion of a deputy. early NTsUO Andrey Matyukhin she is named "General on duty". And this invention of his has been broadcasted everywhere. Unfortunately, in vain, but let's forget it in three days.
  • lukke
    lukke 20 December 2015 13: 29
    +1
    seriously - I don’t ... I don’t understand what it is for and what functionality it has ...
    in addition to the constant beautiful picture on the box in all the news, where many officers in a comfortable almost homely uniform constantly sit burying themselves in the monitors, I don’t know anything
    I hope it’s really not in vain created ...
    1. alexng
      alexng 20 December 2015 21: 44
      0
      This is command and control of troops in real time and there is always a duplicate command and control system + "dead hand", or rather a full complex of command and control for all cases. The actions of the Aerospace Forces in Syria are an example of this, and no one will deny the effect of this.
      1. alexng
        alexng 20 December 2015 21: 45
        0
        AU! Administrators, where did my Russian flag go?
      2. lukke
        lukke 20 December 2015 22: 18
        +1
        This is command and control of troops in real time and there is always a duplicate control system + "dead hand"
        Do you yourself understand what you wrote? And what - there is troop control outside of real time. You play computer games less - they adversely affect the psyche and worldview. And what does the action of the videoconferencing in Syria? If you were shown film studies on the monitors of this center - this does not mean that the commander of the group is sitting and in the virtual with the help of a sophisticated helmet and joystick controls the troops at distant lands, following everything on the monitor and issuing orders to the headset) ... this is Shoigu so the Ministry of Emergencies controlled and extinguished the fires by forces not of the Ministry of Emergencies
  • Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 20 December 2015 13: 31
    +1
    It is a pity that such a system did not exist in June 1941 ...
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 20 December 2015 14: 15
      +6
      Quote: Santjaga_Garka
      It is a pity that such a system did not exist in June 1941 ...

      Such a system in our heads in Russia was and will be! hi
    2. lukke
      lukke 20 December 2015 22: 22
      +1
      It is a pity that such a system did not exist in June 1941
      Really in kind! And also there was no orbital grouping of military satellites and several dozen Iskander regiments.
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 20 December 2015 13: 33
    0
    it is a distributed network structure
    This is the Network, so the Network. good
    And the provider is not rampant tongue . I'm not talking about moderators winked .
    1. Minstrel
      Minstrel 20 December 2015 16: 31
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      This is the Network, so the Network.
      And the provider is not rampant. I'm not talking about moderators

      But I’m afraid to imagine what will happen to the person (or country) who is banned in this network. It seems that Turkey already has its first warning.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 20 December 2015 13: 37
    +3
    And somewhere else, deep underground, this whole NTSUO is built into one small notebook! wassat
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 20 December 2015 13: 45
    +2
    Obviously this center is duplicated !!!
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 20 December 2015 13: 56
      -4
      In Yakutia, in a yurt))) There, under the flag of the USSR, people are sitting and waiting for a signal.
  • raid14
    raid14 20 December 2015 13: 51
    +1
    Drive more around the secret management facilities of foreign military attachés and we will be happy. If the top military leadership is beheaded with one blow, the local commanders, having orders from above, will not be able to organize and ensure the rapid fulfillment of the combat mission in wartime. The bill will go to the clock and this is by today's standards a lot. The lack of communication with the leadership of the military district, the General Staff on the western front in 1941, did not teach us anything.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 20 December 2015 14: 29
      +3
      There is no need to drive anyone with our liberals; everything flows away at the design stage. I would like to hope that they are not allowed into strategic planning of defense.
  • avia1991
    avia1991 20 December 2015 13: 52
    +4
    All this, of course, is good.
    This phrase confuses a little:
    "No more than 1-2 hours later there should be complete information with the adoption of all necessary decisions that will be carried out by the troops."
    In two hours, in modern conditions, everything can already end .. Either we are slightly misinformed - or in the event of a nuclear attack, the action plan is completely autonomous, and no general on duty can decide anything. wink
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 December 2015 14: 49
      0
      But what if 50-60 missiles strike a nuclear strike at us?
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      2. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 20 December 2015 17: 13
        0
        Fy! And who will need this territory after the use of nuclear weapons? Better to die in battle with the adversary than die slowly from leukemia!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 December 2015 09: 46
          -1
          Thermonuclear weapons are clean, minimal emission of decay fragments, after 10 years it will be possible to live.
          1. Loreal
            Loreal 21 December 2015 10: 16
            -1
            Do not confuse with thermobaric. The operation of about a hundred UBC in less than a month will make this planet radiologically uninhabited.
            1. andj61
              andj61 21 December 2015 15: 55
              0
              Quote: Loreal
              Do not confuse with thermobaric. The operation of about a hundred UBC in less than a month will make this planet radiologically uninhabited.

              Therefore, it is necessary that the enemy clearly know: to fight against Russia is a sophisticated form of suicide. In an ordinary war, we have little chance against NATO — they are about 8 times superior to us.
              1. Loreal
                Loreal 21 December 2015 17: 03
                0
                China every 10 times laughing
                It is necessary that such "enthusiasts" also know this.
      3. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 22: 43
        -2
        I think this is the easiest of the packages to be - but if without the use of yao they trample it? - the first to use it is also something to have besides expressing concern
      4. andj61
        andj61 21 December 2015 08: 14
        -1
        Quote: Vadim237
        But what if 50-60 missiles strike a nuclear strike at us?

        If applied, then it will not be about 50-60 missiles, but about hundreds and hundreds, and possibly thousands, if we take into account long-range cruise missiles.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 December 2015 09: 44
          0
          I'm talking about limited nuclear war.
          1. andj61
            andj61 21 December 2015 15: 50
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            Quote: Vadim237
            I'm talking about limited nuclear war.

            We will not pull limited. We cannot sort the adversaries - Russia's conventional forces are about 8 times inferior to NATO. Therefore, any war between Russia and NATO threatens the very existence of Russia, and, therefore, there are grounds for the use of strategic nuclear weapons. And to fight "limitedly" - it is beneficial for the United States: they say we will lightly use tactical weapons - and in return, give the same. But with their tactical they will hit our territory, and we will use ours - not on their territory, but on the territory of Europe. That is, the United States itself does not suffer in this case. It is wrong - if they strike tactically - and this is tactical for us, in fact, strategic - in response it is necessary to beat, including the strategic one, so that the territory of the United States would suffer. So that they do not even have a thought about the admissibility of any war by Russia, since it will definitely be nuclear - and in full.
            PS I wonder who it is with us you sculpt minus, without even explaining why? what
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 20 December 2015 15: 01
      +1
      Quote: avia1991
      In two hours, in modern conditions, everything may already be over .. Either we are slightly misinformed - or in the event of a nuclear attack, the action plan is completely autonomous, and no duty general decides anything.


      As for the last one, highlighted by me, "Perimeter" works, which we so often mention on VO ...

      And as for the first ... there are several degrees of combat readiness ... Just to make a lightning-fast global attack, as the states plan, it won’t work ... And they know that ... Otherwise, they would have attacked long ago - Russia got too far in their throats. ..
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 21 December 2015 21: 12
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        Quote: veksha50
        As for the last one highlighted by me - "Perimeter" works,

        Yes, Georgy, but "Perimeter" is a means of inflicting a "guaranteed strike of retaliation", if I'm not mistaken. I would like to understand how quickly we can respond to "anticipation" .. or at least to interception.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 20 December 2015 14: 02
    +1
    On duty there should be the most trained generals with quick thinking and reaction. Errors are excluded.
    1. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 17: 21
      0
      Judging by his duty 1: 3. But that's my personal opinion . Perhaps 1: 2 and this already gives hope. And air defense is not a panacea - EVERYONE!
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 20 December 2015 14: 31
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    I watched the program about him, the Pentagon is resting.
    Muscovites are on the site, what are the problems along Moscow - the river for a walk? When the FSB stops you, then you're half a km from the target. And further inland .. I think nonsense, 70 meters. And keep in mind. That Moscow is the most protected city on the planet.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 December 2015 14: 50
      0
      Of course the most secure - there is a bunker named after Stalin and more than one.
  • DMB3000
    DMB3000 20 December 2015 14: 55
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    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    why would such frankness ah? what

    To that. The situation is very tense. Someday, if the current situation ends happily for humanity, we will find out how close were to the Third World War. The Caribbean Crisis 2.0 is still ongoing.
    By the way, the deputy head of the NTSUO RF did not mention a lot of things from the reserve defense management structures. The same "doomsday plane", for example

    part of the DEAD HAND system. for those who are in the subject.
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    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 17: 25
      -1
      And also "Liquid Ice" and "Black Snow" fellow
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      2. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 20 December 2015 20: 07
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        This is probably a "dead hand" minus, since "not a topic"
  • Loreal
    Loreal 20 December 2015 15: 13
    -2
    And why was it built then? winked
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 20 December 2015 15: 43
    +9
    I’m sure that all staff issues will now be brought to mind. A fried bird with a sharp beak has already landed in the back, so it's time for a long time ...
    But I am more concerned about the state of the mobile reserve. The capabilities and speed of its deployment. As the history shows, the reservists are fighting and ending because the personnel army burns and grinds in the first months of the war. An example of Ukraine shows that it is very problematic to assemble an army from an unprepared reserve.
    Suppose that the motivation of our men will be higher. But all the same, the time for training personnel and putting together new units needs a disastrous amount.
    I really hope that our General Staff will be visited by the idea of ​​starting at least minimal training of the reserve, since it’s possible to understand the training of soldiers of infantry units at the lowest level, while specialties requiring the use of technically sophisticated weapons and equipment often require complete retraining.
    Not knowing whether many will agree with me ... But it seems to me that the time has come to create structures such as the people's militia or the American National Guard. Men should at least once a month shoot at targets with a Kalash. Leave the grenades. Just in a tent. sleep.
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 20 December 2015 16: 06
      +3
      As far as I understand, they decided to take a different path. Now they are trying to push through the law on private military formations. A sort of reserve for the personnel army consisting of mercenaries. Well, they will also have to solve problems in external theaters. For a fee, of course.
      As for the mobile reserve, they also started to fuss. An active campaign to restore a system like DOSAAF has begun. Norms similar to the TRP are also being introduced. Is there enough time? Question. But work is underway, which inspires some hope for the incomplete brainlessness of the leadership.
    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 18: 06
      +1
      You should have seen how women servicemen "throw" grenades - telephone operators, for example. Immediately you will not understand in which heading to spread, whether it's erotic, or whether it's funny.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 20 December 2015 21: 17
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        Do telephone operators have to throw grenades? What is the likelihood that they will come in handy? Or is it that women in a war are no good at all? It would have been better - women should not be in the war. But if anything - there were wonderful snipers.
    3. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 20: 00
      +1
      Dear, forget the word mobile reserve. This was a problem problem under the USSR, and now even more so. Visit the nearest military registration and enlistment office and you will understand everything. For three years he was engaged in mobobasks.
    4. Kachesgm
      Kachesgm 20 December 2015 22: 23
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      All of you explain to private entrepreneurs how his employee should disappear from work for such fees. This is a huge loss of money for everyone. On weekends, a man is needed at home, otherwise the family will not last so long ... In any case, there is an unnecessary waste of resources, and corruption, theft and all that will develop under a common shop and with this good idea ... Some will start buying "liberators" from fees ...
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 21 December 2015 02: 27
        +3
        And how is it explained to private owners, for example, in Switzerland? Two years in prison for evading mandatory fees or obstructing others being an entrepreneur! And it’s quite a democratic country.
        In this country, all men from 20 to 50 years old have weapons, uniforms, ammunition, cartridges at home in a safe (like millions of hunters now in Russia). And 270 hours a year must be spent at training camps ...
        In short ... a lot of articles on the Internet, who are interested in the links ...

        http://argumentua.com/stati/armiya-shveitsarii-kak-ona-sdelana

        http://nashagazeta.ch/news/13583

        http://topwar.ru/5654-armiya-neytralnoy-shveycarii.html

        http://fb.ru/article/196158/armiya-shveytsarii-zakonyi-shveytsarii-armiya-neytra
        lnoy-shveytsarii

        http://lastday.club/armiya-shveytsarii-vooruzhennyie-silyi-v-kotoryih-sluzhat-po
        -30-let /

        In my opinion, the Swiss army is the best way out in modern conditions. When the mobilization should take place in the shortest possible time. And the reservists are ALWAYS trained, and the units have already gone through combat knocking. If anyone thinks that a modern war is only high technology ... it’s enough to watch TV, how it really looks ... Until the infantry entered the village, he was not considered his own.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 21 December 2015 09: 57
          +1
          And another interesting fact ... For 50 years, the state simply gives the citizen a machine gun and a gun that are stored in his safe. And he has the right! voluntarily continue to attend training camps, even until old age.
          1. Loreal
            Loreal 21 December 2015 10: 10
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            It cannot give it to him, the machine is already his property and is bought before entering the service laughing
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 21 December 2015 13: 23
              +1
              It is written in all articles about the Swiss army. Personally, I have not been there.
              1. Loreal
                Loreal 21 December 2015 17: 05
                0
                Who is written? It is impossible to give someone that is his property. When a soldier ceases to be a reservist, this weapon is converted into a self-loading weapon.
  • Ironax
    Ironax 20 December 2015 15: 49
    0
    Has anyone doubted such an obvious thing?
  • individual
    individual 20 December 2015 16: 15
    -1
    Guys think:
    Who needs this stuffing?
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 20 December 2015 16: 48
    +2
    Quote: Santjaga_Garka
    It is a pity that such a system did not exist in June 1941 ...

    My dear! Kuznetsov gave the order to the fleet a few hours before the attack, but the command of the Kiev Special - let it go. Remember the famous song ** On June 22 at exactly 4 o’clock they announced the bombing of Kiev to us .... ** So
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    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 20 December 2015 18: 12
      +1
      Yes sir! There is a COMMANDER, but there is a puppet on monetary allowance ...
  • petrakimov
    petrakimov 20 December 2015 16: 55
    +9
    Hi all!
    As far as I understand, this Center is a sort of box, beautiful, attractive, which can be shown to everyone demonstrating openness, trust in partners. And so the Center is designed to work in conditions of low and medium intensity conflicts. A sort of control center for cross-border, local conflicts and foreign operations (such as the videoconferencing system in Syria). To control the country, especially its Armed Forces in the event of a full-scale war, a management system like a network is provided: each point of the network is its center. Until all points are destroyed, control is maintained.
    And NTsUO is part of online access to the Armed Forces for the rest of the world, a screen. But the screen is working, not a sham. Well, something like this. This is only my subjective opinion.
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 20 December 2015 18: 59
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    It may not be decided by one Central Administration, for sure there are several such centers and the president will have time, after receiving full information, to give a command on a nuclear briefcase!
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 20 December 2015 19: 05
    0
    We ourselves are from Akimovs of Volsky district. So YOU ​​are absolutely right! This is a scene, and deeper and dressing rooms and props.
  • Michael - 235
    Michael - 235 20 December 2015 19: 38
    0
    Considering the information in this block, it very well illustrates the fact that openness in the spheres of defense should carry a certain framework, which subsequently ensures the elimination of the appearance of such justifying and explanatory ideas.
  • kuz363
    kuz363 20 December 2015 19: 40
    -6
    30 minutes is more than the flight time of missiles from US submarines in the Atlantic or the Barents Sea. And comparable to the flight time of ICBMs from the United States. So sleep well, gentlemen generals and further
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 20 December 2015 20: 58
      +1
      Considering that somewhere "sleeping" is not a nuclear submarine near California. Or under the ice of the ocean. With non-nuclear torpedoes at all, warheads in missiles. And there are only 2 officers you need to shoot, or not. Two locks, two keys. Communication with Glonnas and Conscience. Sorry for the stupid people of America.
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 20 December 2015 21: 11
    0
    Why talk about it? We play along with the liberals?
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 20 December 2015 21: 28
    -1
    Not knowing whether many will agree with me ... But it seems to me that the time has come to create structures such as the people's militia or the American National Guard. Men should at least once a month shoot at targets with a Kalash. Leave the grenades. Just in a tent. sleep.

    Do you think sitting idle? And we throw and shoot. Some of your truth will go stupidly for slaughter. It is difficult for them to switch from a computer, a hand in a stupor and a brain. Everyone hopes for the Ukrainian king.
  • archimer
    archimer 20 December 2015 21: 34
    +1
    What would the best aces of the USSR answer!
  • Starik72
    Starik72 20 December 2015 23: 33
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    I served back in 60 years. Even then, to control the troops, 3 communication lines were used, telephone, telegraph and radio. Moreover, each military unit had several requirements, and when it received a special signal, it opened the necessary order and acted in accordance with the order. All command centers were already duplicated then. What can I explain to you? I will write as it was written at our reception center: For skipping the military a signal in peacetime, which did not entail grave consequences, the term (I do not remember exactly as an example) is up to 5 years. The missed combat signal in peacetime, which entailed grave consequences, is up to 10 years, in wartime until the execution. And this center was built for journalists and guests. Like, look what WE are cool.
  • Wolka
    Wolka 21 December 2015 05: 29
    -1
    however, such excessive openness of the "rate" is alarming hi
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 December 2015 13: 20
    0
    It's okay, let them know (And they know !!!) that we are not "bastard." I think there will be no big war, the "partners" have a thin guts, it is possible that the mongrels (Bandera, Balts or Turks) nailed by "partners" ) they start some kind of dirty trick against Russia, - the nerves want to tickle, then in this case it is necessary to answer in such a way that the desire of the "partners" would disappear forever! But about liberals, "shift workers" and "effective managers" I completely agree with my colleagues, it's time to start shaking everything out of them, into the bins of the Motherland, and send them with children and household members and a couple of sets of underwear to the West, dearly loved by them. Of course, there are also decent people among them, patriots, who care for the country, they should be respected and the rest should take an example from them, although among the "new elite" I somehow don't notice them.
  • Rosty
    Rosty 21 December 2015 15: 19
    0
    There is such a thing, "functional duties". When the task is completed, despite the lack of input. This is what I mean - the flight time of the missiles is not important in principle. In response, it will still arrive. Either sail or arrive. Enough for everyone "... so that no one leaves offended"
  • Litsvin
    Litsvin 21 December 2015 22: 42
    0
    IS IT REASONABLE "TO FOLD ALL EGGS IN ONE BASKET" ???
    GOOD "EVERY EGG HAS ITS BASKET"!!!
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 December 2015 08: 09
    0
    And also it is necessary to study the laying of such small nuclear land mines near Ped-Brussels and Fashington ...
  • uskrabut
    uskrabut 22 December 2015 08: 49
    +1
    My opinion is that NTSUO is just something like a press center. But in fact, everything is much more prosaic, there are no large and beautiful screens, crowds of people in uniform and all this fuss. But there are nodes of closed communications, there is combat duty, there are plans for Hour, and there are many military men who hope to know what to do (I knew).