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Media: in Pakistan, the Taliban refused to swear DAISH

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Pakistani Taliban refused to swear allegiance to Daesh group and its leader al-Baghdadi, whose ambitions they consider alien to South Asia, reports RIA News Post Edition Dawn.




According to the Pakistani Taliban, their main goal is “to overthrow the country's leadership and create a Shariah state,” but they don’t want to join the IG, as this organization’s ambitions “have little in common with South Asia.”

“Al-Baghdadi is not a caliph, because according to Islam, this means that he commands the entire Muslim world, while al-Baghdadi does not have such power; he leads a certain people in a certain territory. His choice does not comply with Islamic rules, ”the statement was quoted by the Taliban.

The report states that al-Baghdadi established insufficient control over such countries as Yemen, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan.

The Pakistani Taliban point to the fact that their activities are practically not related to the activities of the Afghan "colleagues". Despite the same name, the actions of the groups "are not coordinated and poorly coordinated."

Thus, on the territory of Pakistan, the Taliban and DAISH remain competing terrorist organizations.
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 20 December 2015 10: 46 New
    +7
    Correctly. Soon there will be no imbeciles left ready to swear allegiance to potential dead. It seems that the idea of ​​a "world caliphate" is covered by the female genital organ.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 20 December 2015 10: 52 New
      -37
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Correctly. "Bad Nem" swear to potential dead. It seems that the idea of ​​a "world caliphate" is covered by the female genital organ.


      - "Swear" - they may have refused. Where is even a word that they refused to cooperate? And Pakistan ... also, as it were, is not a passing light. Where is the expansion to Russia, frightening everyone? Where new and new cells LIH in the Caucasus? Where are the explosions in the Moscow metro (tradition), or at least at rock concerts? Or, after all, “expansion” is a dumb horror story for the population to justify its participation in the Syrian war?
      1. alone
        alone 20 December 2015 11: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        - "Swear" - they may have refused. Where is even a word that they refused to cooperate?


        First, Daesh and the Taliban are fighting among themselves in Afghanistan. Secondly, Refusing to swear, anyone becomes the enemy of Daesh. If you do not even swear, you want to cooperate with them, Daesh will not agree. Such are their rules.
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 20 December 2015 12: 02 New
          -2
          Quote: lonely
          If you don’t even swear it, you will want to cooperate with them, Daesh will not give consent. Such are their rules.


          - Terrorists do not and cannot have rules. This is not a state in our understanding of the word. Here is a good analytic article:

          http://counter-terror.kz/ru/article/view?id=3374

          - The main idea: the union is unlikely, but not impossible.
      2. demo
        demo 20 December 2015 12: 15 New
        +1
        “Al-Baghdadi is not a caliph, because according to Islam, this means that he commands the entire Muslim world, while al-Baghdadi does not have such power; he leads a certain people in a certain territory. His choice does not comply with Islamic rules, ”the statement was quoted by the Taliban.

        The report states that al-Baghdadi established insufficient control over such countries as Yemen, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan.

        Here we are talking about the fact that Pakistani thugs are sworn to the one who will establish SUFFICIENT control!
        Prove what you're worth!

        In the meantime, we are independent.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 20 December 2015 13: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Where is the expansion to Russia, frightening everyone? Where are the new and new ISIS cells in the Caucasus? Where are the explosions in the Moscow metro (tradition), or at least at rock concerts? Or, after all, “expansion” is a dumb horror story for the population to justify its participation in the Syrian war?

        It’s hard for you from England to find info or guess - this is an indicator of the work of special services.
        In 2015, Russian intelligence agencies prevented more than 30 terrorist attacks. This was announced by President Vladimir Putin at the State Kremlin Palace at a gala evening dedicated to the Day of the Security Service of the Russian Federation

        Read more on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1585399/?fb#ixzz3ur9bfmnt
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 21 December 2015 00: 14 New
          -1
          Quote: APASUS
          It’s hard for you from England to find info or guess - this is an indicator of the work of special services.


          - Don't talk nonsense. I am in the same England as you yourself. Just the site falls into a stupor when it receives a ban on the user's geolocation.

          Quote: APASUS
          In 2015, Russian intelligence agencies prevented more than 30 terrorist attacks. This was announced by President Vladimir Putin at the State Kremlin Palace at a gala evening dedicated to the Day of the Security Service of the Russian Federation


          - Not convinced. Language, as they say - these are not bags to roll. Why not tell him about the 130 prevented terrorist attacks? The peak of the crisis has been passed, 130 terrorist attacks have been prevented, truckers - firewood, and so on ...
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 20 December 2015 10: 52 New
      25
      Our counterintelligence and not ours ... works!
      Like it goes .... hi
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 20 December 2015 11: 25 New
        +3
        Thus, on the territory of Pakistan, the Taliban and DAISH remain competing terrorist organizations.
        Well, yes ..., right away, that's all !!! Where to put this part of the Taliban, led by Mullah Rauf Hadem, who collaborate with the head of the Islamic State in Afghanistan, Hafiz Saeed.
  2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 20 December 2015 10: 47 New
    +3
    So the tolibs “lost their hands?” Nonsense — one call from the State Department and swear allegiance to the shaitan!
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 20 December 2015 12: 18 New
      0
      Thus, on the territory of Pakistan, the Taliban and DAISH remain competing terrorist organizations.

      You do not fight - we do not see.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 20 December 2015 10: 48 New
    +7
    Let others bite easier.
    1. SSR
      SSR 20 December 2015 11: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Let others bite easier.

      More careful with such statements. If Pakistan "explodes", then it will not seem to anyone and don’t forget that they possess nuclear weapons and that they .........
      + this is the dream of terrorists
      Quote: Teberii
      They need vigorous weapons.

      And taking into account what kind of money is spinning there, this is already something real in the near future, and for some it is seen as a way out of the existing international impasse.
  4. Wiruz
    Wiruz 20 December 2015 10: 48 New
    +4
    Taliban need Pashtunistan. They twirled all these thoughts about world jihad
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 20 December 2015 10: 51 New
      +2
      They need vigorous weapons.
  5. barclay
    barclay 20 December 2015 10: 50 New
    +3
    But this does not mean that they are white and fluffy. This competing office is another “hornet’s nest” that can bring a lot of problems.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 20 December 2015 11: 14 New
      +2
      Yes, this statement is actually bullshit. The supreme Taliban are afraid to simply lose their power. And ordinary jihadists in ISIS pays three times as much as the Taliban. And then, a no brainer, that the Islamists seek ISIS from all over the world, because they have declared the worldwide Caliphate. And the Taliban are merely small-town groups. So, if ISIS comes to Pakistan and Afghanistan, then the bulk of ordinary Taliban will defect to their side. Only commanders with their bodyguards will resist. Mula Omar died, and after him no one has such authority in the Taliban. And so they are already biting among themselves.
  6. sichevik
    sichevik 20 December 2015 10: 51 New
    +3
    And as for me, so let them all wrangle there - the Taliban from Daish, al-Qaida from the SSA. And then those who win among themselves ... Our guys would have less work. And then somehow too many of these fiends of hell have divorced.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 20 December 2015 11: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: sichevik
      And as for me, so let them all wrangle there - the Taliban from Daish, al-Qaida from the SSA. And then those who win among themselves ... Our guys would have less work. And then somehow too many of these fiends of hell have divorced.


      Therefore, the Taliban do not swear allegiance. They know that in the end, the Sunnis and the Hussites will demolish the Pashtuns, then they will begin to understand each other, etc. Yes, and oil is not theirs, they have drugs, but let them pay for drugs in money and how they earn their business. request
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 20 December 2015 11: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: NIKNN
        Therefore, the Taliban do not swear allegiance. They know that in the end, the Sunnis and the Hussites will demolish the Pashtuns, then they will begin to understand each other, etc. Yes, and oil is not theirs, they have drugs, but let them pay for drugs in money and how they earn their business.

        Ek you all mixed in a bunch) Pashtuns generally profess Sunni Islam, that is, in fact, they are Sunnis. And the Hussites are generally Yemeni Shiites, who are so named after their military-political leader. And this, when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, the production of drugs fell to 0, for Sharia forbids wink
        1. agent rossii
          agent rossii 20 December 2015 11: 17 New
          0
          something I'm confused recourse soldier
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 20 December 2015 12: 17 New
          +2
          The Taliban exist through the sale of opium. For them, this is both profit and a vigorous bomb. Two in one. And the ban in 2000 was due to overproduction. Heroin prices fell like ours. crying
          1. Extraneous
            Extraneous 20 December 2015 17: 43 New
            +1
            The sale of opium feeds mainly the US Army and intelligence agencies. The main goal of the Taliban is the complete cleansing of their territories from foreign "guests." So in the area has always been. They don’t care what’s going on outside their borders. The main thing is that they are masters within.
      2. Mig-31
        Mig-31 20 December 2015 15: 49 New
        +2
        Yes, and oil is not theirs, they have drugs, but let them pay for drugs in money and how they earn their business. request
        In fact, during the reign of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the production and sale of drugs was generally banned.
  7. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 20 December 2015 10: 51 New
    +3
    Let them bite each other.
  8. bad
    bad 20 December 2015 10: 53 New
    +1
    every sandpiper praises its swamp .. but the meaning is one .. let them bite among themselves ..
  9. Deniska999
    Deniska999 20 December 2015 10: 54 New
    +3
    Not Daesh, but IG.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 20 December 2015 11: 11 New
      0
      Deniska999 (2)
      Not Daesh, but IG.

      I, too, at one time became interested in renaming ISIS, ISIS, for DANSH. I rummaged on the Internet - and here is some help from 1.12.2015. I found.
      The world media are abandoning the familiar designation of a terrorist group in order to prevent militants from acting on behalf of Islam. It is reported by LifeNews. The new abbreviation DAISH often began to appear in the media space.
      In Russia, ISIS is abbreviated as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Levant is the geographical name of the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea: Syria, Libya, Palestine, Israel and Jordan). DAISH - Daesh (Daiish or Da'esh) is an abbreviation for the name of the extremist organization al-Dawla al-Islamiya al-Iraq al-Sham - the same "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant." But this version of pronunciation is not perceived by the terrorists themselves, who threaten to cut off languages ​​to those who thus pronounce the name of the group. The fact is that it is consonant with the Arabic words daes (“stamping / crushing feet”) and dahes (“sowing discord / destruction”). This annoying militant abbreviation is becoming the most commonly used not only by the Arab, but also the media around the world.
      The terrorists call themselves the "Islamic State", implying a reference to the caliphate - the state ruled by the caliph, which in Arabic means "successor".
      http://www.glavny.tv/news/10409
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 20 December 2015 19: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        This annoying militant abbreviation is becoming the most commonly used not only by the Arab, but also the media around the world.

        Well, it’s unlikely that ISIS fighters monitor the Military Review much, so the imposed abbreviation DAISH is more annoying for local users, because, instead of the usual ISIS hi
  10. yuriy55
    yuriy55 20 December 2015 10: 55 New
    0
    Thus, on the territory of Pakistan, the Taliban and DAISH remain competing terrorist organizations.


    Here it really is: "Radish horseradish is not sweeter!"
  11. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 20 December 2015 10: 59 New
    0
    Each such people creates its own savage society as far as the brain allows it to interpret the concept of “right society” and begins the struggle. And nothing is important, just to fight. At the same time, the most barbaric method of achievement is chosen. Why does some part of the born people really want to live in primitive conditions? Maybe a racial predisposition plays a role here, although such people come out of any society, even prosperous ones. This is a big question for geneticists!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 20 December 2015 12: 43 New
      0
      What kind of people? Dear ::::: so that I wouldn’t give money, everything would be calm. In poverty, people use poverty!
  12. Barakuda
    Barakuda 20 December 2015 11: 00 New
    0
    Spiders in the bank, it's all clear. Drug, robbed loot, etc.
    Who does not create anything is subject to destruction. Mother Earth will take care. I won’t be surprised in the near future for some typhoons, tsunamis, volcanoes ..
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 December 2015 11: 04 New
    +1
    Pakistani Taliban refused to swear allegiance to Daesh

    The more strife between Islamic radicals, the better, I think. Part of their forces and means will be delayed for disassembly among themselves.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 December 2015 12: 15 New
    0
    And why should the Pakistani Taliban join Daesh? If they seize power, they will immediately have nuclear weapons. And this Daesh will crawl to them on the belly, and not vice versa. An Islamic State with Nuclear Weapons - That's What You Should Be Afraid of! And led by Pakistan, this will happen automatically. And why wasn’t the mattress indignant at the development of nuclear weapons in Pakistan? Sanctions not announced? Because "our son of a bitch"?
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 20 December 2015 12: 47 New
      0
      And why should the Pakistani Taliban join Daesh? If they seize power, they will immediately have nuclear weapons. And this Daesh will crawl to them on the belly, and not vice versa. ,,,,,,,,, Your both options for the development of events, SAY GENTLY FORGIVELY PLANET!
  15. Egor123
    Egor123 20 December 2015 15: 49 New
    0
    So, over time, they will all wrangle among themselves, and there will be no more problems with terrorism.
  16. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 20 December 2015 20: 58 New
    0
    If you swore it would be easier. No need to bother, all the same to eliminate. And so - you have to figure out what kind of groups, radical, moderate, extremists, etc.
  17. archimer
    archimer 20 December 2015 21: 42 New
    0
    What would the best aces of the USSR answer!
  18. bannik
    bannik 21 December 2015 00: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Correctly. "Bad Nem" swear to potential dead. It seems that the idea of ​​a "world caliphate" is covered by the female genital organ.


    - "Swear" - they may have refused. Where is even a word that they refused to cooperate? And Pakistan ... also, as it were, is not a passing light. Where is the expansion to Russia, frightening everyone? Where new and new cells LIH in the Caucasus? Where are the explosions in the Moscow metro (tradition), or at least at rock concerts? Or, after all, “expansion” is a dumb horror story for the population to justify its participation in the Syrian war?

    And for you, Kozlov, this is exactly what you need: the expansion of ISIS, new cells, explosions in the subway and at rock concerts? Kozlov, I saw a lot, but you are very rare!
    PS: Caps and some commas are for moderators.