Defense Ministry denied appearing in the media about the "problems with the use of cruise missiles" in Syria

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The military department of Russia considers a false interpretation of the message of some Russian publications with reference to the deputy commander of the Far aviation Alexander Konovalov about the alleged "problems with the use of cruise missiles" in Syria, reports TASS the press service of the Ministry of Defense.



“On the air of the radio station Ekho Moskvy 19 in December, Major General Konovalov literally said about the problems of operating aircraft, not cruise missiles. Moreover, he had previously emphasized that the nature of these difficulties was due to "severe weather conditions" in which the crews of the Russian bombers performed their tasks ",
says release.

“At the same time, all the combat missions assigned to the crews of the Long-Range Aviation to destroy ISIS facilities (Islamic State) terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation) in Syria were successfully accomplished, which the inattentive journalists chose not to hear in the same interview with Konovalov. Not to mention the fact that during the air operation, the use of air-based cruise missiles was shown on the Russian TV channels almost in real time, ”the report underlines.
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  1. +20
    20 December 2015 08: 11
    Again the echo of matzah ...
    1. +43
      20 December 2015 08: 18
      Why bother giving an interview to this channel? Would you send them?
      1. +23
        20 December 2015 08: 29
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Why bother giving an interview to this channel? Would you send them?

        Matzo’s ear gave brief information, but the new newspaper misinterpreted everything. And if you read the comments, then the censor is not necessary. Liberals .... however.
        1. +4
          20 December 2015 10: 00
          And on the "echo" the bulk of the comments did not differ in patriotism.
        2. +4
          20 December 2015 10: 07
          They already started hooking their "news" behind the ear ...
      2. +3
        20 December 2015 08: 31
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Why bother giving an interview to this channel?

        Well, how do you send them, they get government support.
        1. +5
          20 December 2015 08: 51
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, how do you send them, they get government support.


          Hey.
          And how is this ECHO stuffing clearly consistent with the statement of Clintonshe, who presents her interpretation of the coordination of actions between Russia and the US coalition in Syria. They say that the sky in Syria should be closed, allocating a quota for combat missions to Russia, and the ground operations of the Syrian army should receive "approval" from the Yankers and much more, but not the United States ... (write in SPORTLOTO). So there is nothing surprising in the activation of the 5th column.
          (cry.)
          1. +9
            20 December 2015 08: 56
            Quote: Lelek
            the throw is clearly consistent with Clintonsha's statement

            Healthy hi
            Zayava Hilori Clitoris is just words. She wants to become a prezik and now they are all out there insanely overtaking each other.
          2. +1
            20 December 2015 12: 10
            Quote: Lelek
            So there is nothing surprising in the activation of the 5th column.


            What to say about "echo ..." or "new g ..."?
            These "gentlemen" have already become more active at VO. Insolently.
        2. +10
          20 December 2015 09: 10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, how do you send them, they get government support.

          Not quite in the subject, but regarding "our" media existing on our money and lying to us ...



          ps
          My attitude to Mikhalkov is negative - he is for Russia, but only the one where there is a master and lackeys.
          This does not mean that he is wrong in everything.
          1. +2
            20 December 2015 09: 40
            Quote: Boris55
            regarding "our" media
            What muck this Govnopolsky! Darkness! Someone is watching and listening ...
          2. -2
            20 December 2015 09: 47
            Quote: Boris55
            he is for Russia, but only one where there is a master and slaves.

            Was it ever different? Only for seventy years a master was called a party worker or a boss ... then they hid their essence and presented themselves as "Servants of the people", but "only now the servants of the people, today, as before, live better than the people" ... remember KVN? Governors on the periphery have always, even in tsarist times, considered themselves the most important in the country. Suffice it to recall their ignorance of the abolition of serfdom.
            1. +5
              20 December 2015 10: 23
              Quote: shasherin.pavel
              Has it ever been otherwise?

              Probably it was different, about a thousand or so years ago, and then a hostile ideology came and turned us from the sons of God into the servants of God. The media is ideological power and belongs to those same people from time immemorial to this day, but this is forbidden to discuss, otherwise their omnipotence over our minds will end.
              1. +5
                20 December 2015 11: 12
                Quote: Boris55
                a hostile ideology came and turned us from the sons of God into the servants of God
                How is this manifested? According to your version, being "sons of God", the pagan Slavic princes with squads covered some of the Slavs and small neighboring peoples, but at the same time they beat each other for centuries, waged wars of conquest, there were a lot of beats themselves ... "It was a good time, in short. ... Then the Russians adopted the "slave" faith, built a powerful state in which the contradictions generated by tribal differences (glade, Drevlyans, etc.), ethnic and even religious (Muslims are also "slaves" for you) began to be gradually frayed; They planted the Empire, where, in fact, all people who have a common homeland, speak and think in the same language (whatever the fans of popular "genetics" may say) became Russians. At the same time, cultural, national and religious differences persist in our country, but only those that do not prevent people from living normally and communicating with each other. Even the pagans, according to your version, "sons of God" are given to live: pray to the Perun, sacred groves, idols, wear amulets and jump over fires ... Who does not give you something that you are trying to push your beliefs and intolerance to others everywhere?
                1. -1
                  20 December 2015 11: 26
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  How is this manifested? According to your version, being "sons of God", pagan Slavic princes with squads covered some of the Slavs and small neighboring peoples, but at the same time they beat each other for centuries, waged wars of conquest, and there were a lot of beats themselves.

                  I will not delve into ancient history, but it reminds me of a very recent one, when today democrats say that during the times of perestroika there was nothing on the shelves and therefore they say that they were rebuilt ...

                  You have heard Tsoi's song "A Star Named Sun":



                  It contains the following words: "And two thousand years - war, war for no particular reason," Do you guess what this is about? What event happened 2000 years ago that influenced the entire history of mankind?

                  ps
                  Regarding paganism - the history of reverse does not have. You can’t enter the same water twice.
                  It seemed to me that you are for the fact that small peoples would preserve their traditions, but the Russians refuse this?
                  1. +1
                    20 December 2015 11: 45
                    Quote: Boris55
                    I will not delve into ancient history ... What event happened 2000 years that affected the whole history of mankind? ... You can’t enter the same water twice
                    I heard, without difficulty, you can’t catch a fish from a pond, etc. We just live in different stories. For you, 2000 years is not antiquity.
                    Quote: Boris55
                    It seemed to me that you are for the fact that small peoples would preserve their traditions, but the Russians refuse this?
                    I would advise an Orthodox to be baptized when it seems, but you don't even know how to help. You yourself designate your faith before attacking others. And then somehow it turns out from the sly. Are you a sun worshiper, believe in "Choi is alive"? Or is there some problem for which you must offend the religious feelings of others?
                    1. -1
                      20 December 2015 12: 00
                      Quote: Stanislav
                      why do you have to insult religious feelings?

                      I'm not talking about religion, I'm talking about the ideology adopted 2000 years ago, which led to constant wars.
                      I believe that God is and I believe him.
                      About feelings. A prophet was sent to each people at a crucial historical stage of its existence so that it could set the right path. And I believe in it. Faith in God and his words spoken through the prophets are not contradictory. If I offended someone’s feelings, then the offended person would have to deal with their feelings.

                      You may be interested in these historical facts: http://79.120.77.163/klin/page.php?id=256
                2. +1
                  20 December 2015 11: 48
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  Then the Russians adopted the "slavish" faith, built a powerful state in which the contradictions generated by tribal differences (glade, Drevlyans, etc.) began to be gradually frayed.

                  You have violated the MSS .. And as pagans, the Slavs successfully developed. And they defeated external enemies and even Byzantium nightmares .., knocking them the maximum privileges for their merchants.
                  Well, and besides ... we look when a very large number of ancient cities officially appeared in Russia .. At the turn of 1000-1200, this figure clearly correlates with the distance from the center of Orthodoxy in Russia - Kiev. But .. Orthodoxy did not build cities, it mastered them. The larger the settlement, the larger the flock, the more solid the institution, the greater the likelihood of a competent clerk keeping daily records there.
                  Well, then ... Vologda -1147G, Kargopol -1147g, Veliky Ustyug -1147g .., Koldmogory 1138 ... For the first time, by the way, it falls as a distant outpost of the Novgorod principality, as a source of tribute from the Zavolochsky estates ..
                  As there is no connection between Christianity and the acceleration of the development of the Slavic state, it has already developed very dynamically.
                  1. +1
                    20 December 2015 12: 04
                    Quote: dvina71
                    Somehow there is no connection between Christianity and the acceleration of the development of the Slavic state
                    The adoption of Christianity in Russia - 988,
                    Vologda -1147G, Kargopol -1147g, Veliky Ustyug -1147g., Holdmogory 1138 ...
                    And so you do not see? Well, I do not know... request
                    1. +1
                      20 December 2015 17: 03
                      Quote: Stanislav
                      And so you do not see? Well, I do not know...

                      And why don't you see? Where is Kiev? Where is the Russian north? A distance of at least 1700 km .. Forward .. on foot, on horseback, in boats .. Using primitive tools, build cities and provide the population with everything necessary ..
                      Maybe then you will see that the development of the Russian state even went well before Christianity.
                      1. +1
                        20 December 2015 23: 36
                        Quote: dvina71
                        Where is Kiev? Where is the Russian north?
                        Between them, what, there were no cities? An Orthodox church was built in the cities, and the pagan religion lasted longer in the villages.
                      2. 0
                        21 December 2015 00: 56
                        Quote: Stanislav
                        Between them, what, there were no cities? An Orthodox church was built in the cities, and the pagan religion lasted longer in the villages.

                        So we have come to the main point. Yes there were cities. a lot of. A significant number of territories were developed, but ..all this was done in the pre-Christian era. It was a powerful state, which gave Askold and Diru ships and weapons to march on Constantinople. In the territories of this state not only Slavs lived .., so Kotlas remained to us, and the people who gave it the name became part of the population of the Russian north. I'm not talking about all the Finogor tribes living in the region of Lake Onega and further towards the Northern Dvina.
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                  3. 0
                    20 December 2015 13: 43
                    Quote: dvina71
                    But .. Orthodoxy did not build cities, it mastered them
                    No belief or ideology builds cities, does not unleash wars of conquest, but believers fight and build cities for something, and man is a "political animal", therefore he cannot fight or build cities without ideology.
                    1. 0
                      20 December 2015 14: 27
                      Quote: Stanislav
                      No faith or ideology builds cities ...

                      First thought, then action. As we think, we are doing so. As we act, we live.

                      Faith, as the concept of achieving a specific goal and ideology promoting these goals in a conveniently correlated form for the masses, unleashes wars and builds cities. Without faith in communism, the USSR would hardly have built so many cities and reached such peaks.

                      A person who knows the ultimate goal of the concept does not need an ideology convincing him of the correctness of the chosen path. The animal, accustomed to a warm stall and fresh hay, does not care about the final goal. He needs an ideology - tales of a bright future.

                      Do you know what we are building? What is the ultimate goal? Really only in the satisfaction of their own pleasures?

                      If we do not know the ultimate goal of our movement, this does not mean that the one who directs the whole process does not know it (I do not mean the heads of state). This means that we are all kept in a stall.
                      1. 0
                        20 December 2015 23: 52
                        Quote: Boris55
                        First thought, then action.
                        And I wrote about this, only for some reason you tore a piece.
                        Quote: Boris55
                        A person who knows the ultimate goal of the concept does not need an ideology convincing him of the correctness of the chosen path
                        I have to upset you: the concept has no purpose at all. The goal is only for the person who creates the concept and, as I wrote earlier, believes in something and has a common system of ideas with other people - an ideology (the drafters of our Constitution, like you were afraid of the word, but without ideology, not only cities are not built , but the thought does not stick)
                        Quote: Boris55
                        If we do not know the ultimate goal of our movement, ...This means that we are all kept in a stall.
                        In the stall, no one is moving anywhere - everyone is standing there. smile
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                    2. 0
                      20 December 2015 17: 05
                      Quote: Stanislav
                      No belief or ideology builds cities, does not unleash wars of conquest, but believers fight and build cities for something, and man is a "political animal", therefore he cannot fight or build cities without ideology.

                      I do not see here any advantage of monotheism over polytheism.
            2. 0
              20 December 2015 17: 34
              Only for seventy years the master was called a party worker or chief,
              and you know that in Soviet times it was possible for the son-daughter of a hard worker to become a “boss”, and now you try to finish the tower without a lot of money.
          3. 0
            20 December 2015 12: 56
            Quote: Boris55
            My attitude to Mikhalkov is negative - he is for Russia, but only the one where there is a master and lackeys.


            I do not agree with you about the bar and slaves. But what about OUR "star party"? There are also solid bars and slaves. By the way, volunteer slaves. M. b. Do you remember Ligachev's catchphrase: "Boris, you are wrong", addressed to EBN.
            1. 0
              20 December 2015 13: 35
              Quote: evge-malyshev
              But what about OUR "star party"?

              There is no bar, there are donkeys. This question is answered well in this cartoon:

              1. +2
                20 December 2015 15: 08
                Why Disney cartoon? Read Nikolai Nosov "Dunno on the Moon." There is a wonderful description of everything.
          4. -1
            20 December 2015 14: 16
            My attitude to Mikhalkov is negative - he is for Russia, but only the one where there is a master and lackeys.
            This does not mean that he is wrong in everything.
            That means exactly what you said, dear Alexander Romanov! And it is doubly incomprehensible, for what the hell to mention a person to whom the attitude is negative? Why, in general, listen, and even sort out the prostitutes?
          5. +1
            20 December 2015 22: 16
            Quote: Boris55
            ps
            My attitude to Mikhalkov is negative - he is for Russia, but only the one where there is a master and lackeys.



            Hmm yes. Sensitive ... I also do not like Mikhalkov for his lordliness, but in this video I’m completely on his side ...

            And I'm sitting, asking the question: what a vile person took this program off the air ??? In defense of the three ydodovs - fat from MatchTV, Tina, who says that there are no Russians in Russia, Merdepolsky, who can not be called otherwise ??? Who did not allow the broadcast ???

            In vain Mikhalkov kept silent about this ... I must know the name of a particular person ...
        3. +1
          20 December 2015 10: 05
          Good power is always in advance and for the state. support pays for his demise. Everything should be held at the highest level, and experience was preserved after the collapse of the union.
      3. +3
        20 December 2015 08: 44
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Why bother giving an interview to this channel?

        why do people who cannot give interviews give it, especially to this channel ??
      4. +11
        20 December 2015 09: 17
        There is an information war going on, our enemy the West has made a bet on an information war. The USSR was destroyed by the information war when it won the arms race by creating the super-heavy rocket Voevoda, the BZHRK, a ground intercontinental complex, which the vaunted USA, having stolen scientists from all over the world, could not do the same, but the political bureaucratic dehkans led by a grain grower (poor grain grower) with a stain on the skull and brain, panicked over SDI cartoons and began to merge the Soviet state. Now the GDP continues to fight in the information war, refusing to admit the defeat of the USSR in this war. In particular, when the liberal media were not touched, Western analysts had the illusion that everything was under control, the opposition was strong and enjoyed by the people, and the army was useless, etc. At this time, when the West was in a state of illusion, it was engaged in impunity disgraceful in places of concentration of resources, and turned their army into colonial forces, where the stake was placed on aviation, moreover, tactical, backward colonies, by definition, should not have powerful air defense, all this was done to the detriment of strategic forces (including the B-2, which having strategic performance characteristics, does not have the ability to carry strategic weapons and they have to reanimate the old man B-52) have reached the point of no return. VVP has made the entire line of strategic means, with the exception of the BZHRK, but Barguzin is on its way. Moreover, when the West began to doubt after our capture of the Caucasian ridge, and the line was not yet completed, I think that VVP organized Bolotnaya in order to calm the West, convincing that the days of his rule were numbered ... When the intelligence of the West began to beat already On the alarm, analysts decided to liquidate the "conscience of the nation" - Nemtsov, which was supposed to demolish the hated regime in a fit of righteous anger. However, everyone in Russia just laughed and wished the Juda a good way to Hell. The costs of the grant-eaters to the West cost and are costing round sums that could be spent on the development of a new underwater missile carrier, for example, and as a result, instead of this wonderful machine, Shenderovich ... Here the interests of GDP and liberoids coincided, the latter had to convince the owners of their significance and continue to eat grants, and the first, well, previously indicated ...
        Our liberal opposition inflicted a monstrous defeat in the new nuclear missile race to the West, helped Russia regain superpower status, and now, I think, grants will cease as unnecessary. It seems that the time has come to drop masks (for example, Turkish subjects), the masquerade is over. I expect that the time has come for the nationalization of the economy, and the oligarchy and liberal structures in the sky ...
        1. +2
          20 December 2015 10: 04
          Quote: hrych
          The USSR is destroyed by the info

          The USSR was destroyed by the desire of the top government to live without hiding their excess and to have everyone they want to have. And as soon as Khrushch is unforgettable, they gave impetus to it all picked up and everything rolled towards shitty changes called "perestroika". The paradox is that the revolution came out under the slogan "That there were no rich", and the intelligentsia before the revolution dreamed "that there were no poor." The modern abolition of the indexation of pensions for working pensioners suggests that the government considers the average salary in the country too high to add a pension to it. I hope that the majority of readers understand well that the current average salary is derived from the salary of a deputy in Moscow and a toilet cleaner in the periphery. No one will ever publish statistics on the average earnings of government officials and MPs apart from the average earnings of the working class. Then the average wage of a worker would not have exceeded 8 thousand, not 22 thousand.
          1. +3
            20 December 2015 11: 56
            At a critical moment in history, which our days undoubtedly are, events are taking place comparable to industrialization and collectivization, which had a very difficult effect on the population, but it was thanks to this that the victory in the last Great War was won. Now there is a new stage, simply called import substitution, which will win in the future Great War. When the USSR collapsed, at that stage, the winners were afraid to directly occupy, given the previous experience of the invasions of 1612, 1812, 1917 (intervention) and 1941, the system was built so that the power of the army gradually degraded, the strategic weapons would expire, the people would sit down on imported goods, primarily food, and they would receive natural resources that our people themselves would produce and transport to the winners, in exchange for receiving their own rotten food and rags. And if you were to rock, food would be blocked, people would die of hunger and would have to agree to a slave existence. However, again, over the past 15 years, GDP has restored agriculture, so much so that we are among the three leaders in grain trade, and we have also reached export opportunities for eggs and chicken. And when, after the return of Crimea, they decided to strangle us with hunger, then perhaps the most terrible weapon of genocide did not work. The number of deputies is scanty in the game, where the stakes are world domination and the very existence of the Russian people and the peoples who come with it means absolutely nothing. We are ready for the Great War, because the strategic forces will not be equal to us for the next decade, even if the States begin to build new missile carriers with missiles that meet modern requirements (to overcome missile defense), conventional forces are also in good order and sufficient for current challenges, and the second a component of the country's security - food is also provided. Now we are suffering losses in the war, but not human losses, and this is expressed in the absence of indexation of pensions, etc. A small fee for maintaining the ethnic group. And an increase in the exchange rate of the ruble against the ruble is the government’s tactic necessary for import substitution, when it becomes unprofitable to buy imports and involuntarily the goods are bought from a domestic producer who has every chance to rise. The main blow falls on luxury goods, when the main part of the population becomes inaccessible high-quality middle-class cars, overseas vacations (not budget-friendly type of Turkish-Egyptian tours for the poor) and expensive French wines, because in general we have built a consumer society and this decline is a strong irritant , especially exacerbated by inequality. There is an economic war with the West, a hot war with the Islamists, an informational and psychotronic war with everyone, but the people are not starving and the army is invincible, everything else has no meaning for history. In 1941, would it really have mattered 8 or 22 thousand rubles, and even more so in the Siege of Leningrad ...
            1. 0
              20 December 2015 22: 42
              Quote: hrych
              the people are not starving and the army is invincible; everything else for history has no meaning.



              Almost everything I agree with you ... Why almost ??? It’s too early to talk about our complete food security and the rise of agriculture, it’s too early to talk about some kind of rise in industry in the form of import substitution ...

              What is happening now, it’s probably not correct to compare in scale with industrialization and collectivization ... However, it’s better than the collapse of the 90s and the rotten mold of the beginning of the new century ...

              Although - yes, the West did not achieve the desired, and this was unexpected for him ...
        2. +1
          20 December 2015 10: 48
          All the same, it’s great when the country is led by a professional intelligence officer and martial artist, a lawyer-economist will not be able to play such a chess game.
          It is only a pity that the professional intelligence officers trained in the USSR are not professionals in the economy — this is a new front in the theater of confrontation and the conduct of modern warfare. And for Russia today, the economy is a front open to the advance of the enemy.
          1. +1
            20 December 2015 12: 19
            I can’t agree, we must understand that until 2000 we were not even in stagnation, we flew into the abyss, industry was destroyed, the army was demoralized and morally obsolete, demography in the anus, unemployment, hidden hunger, food insecurity, etc., etc. Moreover, the country was under external control. Now the armed forces have been built, but before that it was necessary to ensure the revival of industry and technology on the crest of the capabilities of civilization - this must be understood. At the same time, agriculture was raised, and to maintain the vast territory in integrity, the Chita-Khabarovsk highway was built, the Baikal-Amur Mainline was completed, and even with developed socialism the USSR could not cope with it. When the GDP traveled along this road in yellow Kalina, the liberoid mass media drove it well and didn’t notice the main thing, now you can drive to Beijing from both Auto and Railway transport and the New Silk Road, and this is the beginning of the end of the dominance of the Atlantists controlling to this only one - the sea route. And even though railway and auto-transport are inferior to the cargo capacity of marine giants, but the lack of loading and unloading, and most importantly - the travel time reaches up to a week. It doesn’t sound funny, but on the economic front we are advancing and winning. The West itself suffers more from sanctions, and a deliberate reduction in oil prices reduces the income of TNCs ruling the world, and S. Arabia has embarked on the path of bankruptcy, plus cheap oil allows China, as the main competitor of the West for the production of consumer goods, to further reduce the cost of goods and thereby increase competitiveness .
        3. 0
          20 December 2015 22: 29
          Quote: hrych
          Our liberal opposition inflicted a terrible defeat in the new nuclear missile race to the West, helped Russia regain superpower status,


          Well, grunt, well, a philosopher ... I put a plus, but let me ask: if we have such a liberal, what do you demand it at the end of the river ???

          No, I’m just for it, just something doesn’t fit together ... It’s better - right away in the sky ... The Moor has done his job ...
      5. +4
        20 December 2015 13: 17
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Why bother giving an interview to this channel? Would you send them?

        The echo of Moscow is a liberal channel and has always been. It is not surprising that so much dirt and lies come from there. You know the fifth column ...
        1. +4
          20 December 2015 13: 44
          Quote: NEXUS
          Echo of Moscow is a liberal channel and has always been. It is not surprising that so much dirt and lies come from there. You know the fifth column ..


          Andrey completely agree, but ..... here are quotes from the speech of this .. "Konovalov's clown" wassat

          1. "There are problems with aviation technology, in particular, the use of air-launched cruise missiles. Now we are actively working on this. And I believe that we will eliminate this in the near future." belay
          For such "statements" it is necessary at least ... DRIVE TO ........ and as soon as possible soldier

          2. "Among the difficulties faced by the crews of Russian strategic bombers is the presence of" harsh weather conditions. " belay

          3. "" A total of 145 sorties, with strategic aircraft using cruise missiles and old modifications and new modifications. Thrown out more than 1500 thousand bombs, used about 20 cruise missiles " belay

          Question- Dear Supreme Command and Commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...... Who are you "typed" and "where are you such fool .. "find" ??????? belay soldier
          1. +3
            20 December 2015 14: 53
            Quote: ancient
            Question- Dear VGK and Commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...... Who did you "type" and "where are you such .." find "???????

            Greetings, friend drinks Glad to see you in good health. good
            And Ganapolsky did not get out of this den? But on the other hand, having dispersed this "house of tolerance", then catch them all over the country ... and so here they are, all in sight. And as a selection, one more beautiful than the other, patriots, your division ... ugh.
            1. +2
              20 December 2015 14: 58
              Quote: NEXUS
              And Ganapolsky did not get out of this den? But on the other hand, having dispersed this "house of tolerance", then catch them all over the country ... and so here they are, all in sight. And as a selection, one more beautiful than the other, patriots, your division ... ugh.


              And what .. is quite possible recourse drinks
              1. +4
                20 December 2015 15: 06
                Quote: ancient
                And what .. is quite possible

                I am surprised by these citizens ... as soon as everything is not good in the country and not according to theirs, the stench and ficheles climb out of all their cracks, under the slogan that they are very worried about their homeland. Gilles rights need a law on the selection of citizenship and expulsion from the country.
                In the 90s, this desman lived well, when they lived happily ever after on mattress grants. And now, as the country began to do something, the "owners" gave the command to dilute the stench and fool people.
                When they cut Swans or Oka, not a single mongrel was indignant, but only applauded ... patriots, bl..forgive me for my French. Anger takes when you read and remember this.
                1. +1
                  20 December 2015 22: 53
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  . Gilles rights, we need a law on the selection of citizenship and expulsion from the country.



                  Hmm ... Andrey, on the one hand, seems to agree, but it reminds me of copying the experience of "fellow neighbors" ...

                  And deprivation of citizenship ... Hmm ... Read the Constitution ... Too often we run into a dead end on various issues precisely because of some of its articles ...

                  I don’t remember which article, but something like: "Nobody ..." begins, and then on the impossibility of deprivation of citizenship ...
          2. +2
            20 December 2015 22: 50
            Quote: ancient
            Who are you "typed" and "where are you such



            Major General, however ...
            1. 0
              21 December 2015 19: 37
              I don't know about the generals, but my commander Sergei Ivanovich Khraptsov liked to repeat the saying: "There are three types of colonels - mister (comrade) colonel, colonel ... and hey ... colonel" wassat
        2. +1
          20 December 2015 16: 21
          Quote: NEXUS
          ... fifth column you know ...

        3. 0
          20 December 2015 22: 48
          Quote: NEXUS
          The echo of Moscow is a liberal channel and has always been.No wonder so much dirt and lies come from there.. The fifth column you know ...


          So everyone, including myself, is surprised that Konashenkov began to regularly (!!!) give interview reports to this particular channel ... What, do we have more other media outlets ???
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    3. +7
      20 December 2015 08: 24
      Everyone hears only what he wants to hear and what he can perceive from what he has heard.
      Mass media journalists like Echo of Moscow are more affected by this than the average citizen.
      1. +1
        20 December 2015 09: 27
        "On the air of the radio station" Echo of Moscow "

        Well, everything is clear ... There is no point in commenting!
        1. +2
          20 December 2015 09: 41
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          There is no point in commenting!

          comment on the meaning is because
          "On the air of the radio station" Echo of Moscow "on December 19 Major General Konovalov...
          1. 0
            20 December 2015 10: 17
            Quote: colonel
            Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
            There is no point in commenting!

            comment on the meaning is because
            "On the air of the radio station" Echo of Moscow "on December 19 Major General Konovalov...

            Yes, they just threw a bone .... hi
      2. 0
        20 December 2015 23: 04
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Mass media journalists like Echo of Moscow



        Now, if the official representatives of the authorities and, in particular, the Armed Forces had not been given this interview, this is one thing ... And here they report to them almost every day, moreover, they report in such a way that gives them a reason to distort what has been said ... And no one for some reason they don’t take them by the ear ...
    4. 0
      20 December 2015 13: 33
      Quote: rafaelich
      Again the echo of matzah ...

      -------------------
      Again, hand-to-face, they talked about the difficulties with the weather, they misinterpreted about the difficulties with technology.
  2. +13
    20 December 2015 08: 16
    Why would the general even go there - all the same, they will turn everything in their own way and cross it over. This is a cesspool for their own kind.
    1. +3
      20 December 2015 08: 20
      The information war has not yet been canceled. The West, in principle, has always led it better, ours only remains to make refutations.
      1. +2
        20 December 2015 08: 47
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        our only remains to come up with rebuttals.

        No rebuttal! Confirm the problems with missiles, and then go where you need to, but not yet. And say: call me, grenades ... the missiles we have turned out to be in the wrong system, the locksmith Uncle Petya messed up something at the factory, so she flew to the Saudi palace and flew away. But we wanted to ISIS, honestly! lol
        1. +2
          20 December 2015 10: 04
          Quote: Minstrel
          And say: call me, grenade ... the missiles we have turned out to be in the wrong system, the mechanic Uncle Petya messed up something at the factory

          Well, the little guy would come up with such a garbage, but here it’s like an adult man ... request
    2. +2
      20 December 2015 09: 03
      Quote: iliitch
      Why would a general come there at all?

      The trouble is that this general himself was completely nonsense. If you listen to him, then you yourself can go crazy. So the "democratic" media rejoiced at such an interlocutor, the problems with cruise missiles are still in the air. Look on the Internet to see what else they have thought of based on the nonsense of this general.
      If you are tongue-tied from birth, then your destiny in communicating with the press is to sit exactly in the back seat. No, damn it, you need to lean out and PR.
  3. +9
    20 December 2015 08: 17
    “On the air of the Ekho Moskvy radio station on December 19, Major General Konovalov stated literally about the problems of operating aircraft, not cruise missiles. Moreover, he had previously emphasized that the nature of these difficulties was due to the "harsh weather conditions" in which the crews of the Russian bombers performed their tasks. "

    You would have a general at the State Department would have been briefed for a briefing.
    Found a place to speak.
    Where the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense are looking.
    1. +6
      20 December 2015 08: 30
      Quote: demo
      On the air of the radio station "Echo of Moscow" ...
      You would have a general at the State Department would have been briefed for a briefing.
      Found a place to speak.

      In principle, it is impossible to climb out of this cesspool without getting dirty.
      You need to think about where you can and where you can’t climb!
    2. +2
      20 December 2015 08: 55
      ... do not read the echo of Moscow - this is one of the sites where I do not go at all ..
  4. +3
    20 December 2015 08: 25
    No state in the world provides as much open information on the conduct of a military operation as Russia does, the more information, the louder the screeching of the "partners". What is it for? laughing
  5. +2
    20 December 2015 08: 26
    The Russian Defense Ministry considers a false interpretation of the message of some Russian publications with reference to the deputy commander of Long-Range Aviation Alexander Konovalov about the alleged "problems with the use of cruise missiles" in Syria


    The number of false stuffing has clearly increased ... the information war is in full swing ....
    counterattack
    counterattack
    live fun by the laws of the jungle ...

    Where is the headquarters of coordination of these false fakes? ... according to the laws of war ... the first blow is delivered to the headquarters of the enemy.
    Au specialists information war you have more information to share it.
    1. +1
      20 December 2015 08: 47
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The number of false stuffing has clearly increased ... the information war is in full swing

      Well, here is not a false stuffing, but some kind of competence.
      1. 0
        20 December 2015 23: 08
        Quote: Dryuya2
        Well, this is not a false stuffing, and some kind of competence .


        Who has incompetence ??? The Deputy Commander of Long-Range Aviation ??? What is he doing in this position ???
  6. +10
    20 December 2015 08: 33
    ....... Where the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense are looking .....
    This is not the first time that our generals "talk" a lot, in the wrong place and time!
    ..... "Perhaps the decisive role in Thailand's refusal to choose the T-90 as a new tank for its army was played by the scandalous statements of Alexander Postnikov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Ground Forces, regarding the technical characteristics of the tank, which has been in service with the Russian army since 1992. Postnikov in mid-March rather dismissively spoke about the technical data of the combat vehicle, which, according to him, is nothing modern and in reality is nothing more than "the 17th modification of the Soviet T-72, which has been produced since 1973." .......... "
    Let me remind you that in 2012 the T-90 lost the tender for the supply of tanks to Thailand in the amount of 230 million dollars.
    The tender was won by T 84 "Oplot".
    1. +3
      20 December 2015 09: 14
      The fact that not only generals have a long tongue is not news to most. I remember that Kudrin, being the Minister of Finance, more than once collapsed the Russian stock market. Either blurted out without thinking, or was it intended? Nabiulina, Ulyukaev, Siluanov, and Gref also suffer from verbal diarrhea. So Medvedev brought down the shares of Rosneft with his own reasoning. Yes, and Putin does not always think about the consequences of his assessments. You are our liberal market makers, how long, willingly or unwillingly, will pour water on the mill of our enemies?
  7. +2
    20 December 2015 08: 37
    It's time to cover up this "echo of matzo ..."
  8. 0
    20 December 2015 08: 38
    Again "echo" "a" changes to "I" ...
  9. +3
    20 December 2015 08: 38
    So what? Does anyone believe this "striped-eared lapdog" called "Echo of Moscow"? And the general is a hammer. Got an interview fee? Probably. Such a tyafkalka as "Echo" is absolutely necessary - since both on business and not on business "it gives signals". But it doesn't let you sleep!
    And for what exercises are generally held? In order to learn to overcome difficulties, and to achieve goals.
    I always remember Roerich's words: "Blessed are the obstacles. We grow by them!"
    1. 0
      20 December 2015 23: 12
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Does anyone believe this "striped-eared lapdog" called "Echo of Moscow"?



      That's the problem that they listen and read ... Nowadays, if some media outlet ceases to listen, read, watch, it will go bankrupt ... And these people live-stir-dirty ...
  10. +2
    20 December 2015 08: 45
    In any healthy state, there must be opposition so that they do not relax. As in a healthy body, signals about pain, heat or cold and other shit. Information should be diverse and competitive, not one-sided. Fairy tales in a pink light is certainly nice, but on VO, for example, for some reason no one is discussing the recent fall of Onyx in Severodvinsk - the unpleasant information just fell silent and that's it. This is also not correct
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    2. 0
      20 December 2015 14: 02
      Well, first of all, not Severodvinsk, but the village of Sopka, near Nenoksa, and just over 40 km from Severodvinsk. Secondly, it was about the CD, such as "Iskander-M", about "Onyx" information was not passed. This is for clarification.
  11. 0
    20 December 2015 08: 48
    Such a tyafkalka as "Echo" is absolutely necessary - since in the case


    VENEDICT trash is just what we need to drain all kinds of trash on the ears of our opponents ... an excellent liberal toilet in this regard.
  12. +2
    20 December 2015 08: 49
    as me zae ...... about this echo of Moscow. Not even the fifth column, but a wrecker and saboteur. All twist, just to spoil. It is necessary to collect signatures or something to organize for closing this garbage dump.
    1. +3
      20 December 2015 10: 07
      Quote: RuslanNN
      as me zae ...... about this echo of Moscow.

      Why are you listening to him ??? smile
  13. +1
    20 December 2015 08: 50
    Scavengers from "Echo" - agents of Merikatosia, fulfilling their fee!
    Believe them - do not respect yourself! laughing
  14. +1
    20 December 2015 08: 50
    On this "echo" only the cost of sand in the Sahara Desert can be discussed ...
  15. 0
    20 December 2015 08: 51
    I am wildly sorry, but why the hell did Mr. Konovalov need to broadcast in this cesspool and who gave the go-ahead for this? Hardly of my own mind or who thought of it? Some questions ...
    1. +2
      20 December 2015 11: 00
      Quote: gunter_laux
      Hardly of my own mind or who thought of it?

      Think our generals without brains? what
      1. 0
        20 December 2015 11: 40
        All generals with brains. With "brains out" laughing
  16. +3
    20 December 2015 08: 58
    The echo of Moscow is anti-Russian propaganda.
    He has a large audience, as among FM, accessible from any mobile phone in any region, this is the only socio-political channel, the remaining channels are musical and entertainment, there is still sports.
    But there is no alternative publicly available political channel throughout the country !!!
    Here comes indo propaganda. In vain, respected people go there, ALWAYS !!! the information receives anti-Russian subtext - anti-Russian propaganda training of journalists EM is at a very high level, most often gradually, unobtrusively drive false information into the heads of the audience.
    Of course, I understand the freedom of speech is right, but what kind of freedom is it if the country does not have a patriotic, objective, public radio channel !!!
    1. 0
      20 December 2015 10: 39
      because among FM, accessible from any mobile phone in any region


      Well, not in any ... in Kamchatka we don’t have it at all ...
      we suffer so ... suffer so ... lol
      1. +1
        20 December 2015 17: 58
        Quote: kitamo
        Well, not in any ... in Kamchatka we don’t have it at all ...

        And in Rostov, no, and who needs it? People are listening to music! smile
        1. 0
          20 December 2015 18: 25
          I also do not catch in the Stavropol Territory smile
  17. +1
    20 December 2015 08: 59
    Yes, this radio station "Echo of Moscow" radio artiodactyls. And what it says is the neighing of mares such as Ksenia, and working for "Echo of Moscow" Gavnopolsky who is now in Kiev licking ass.
  18. +3
    20 December 2015 08: 59
    In "Seventeen Moments of Spring," the German general said: "The diplomats start wars, and the military ends them." So now, to paraphrase the general, we can say that the journalists start wars. They will make a sensation out of a flea if necessary. Somehow in the "Military Secret" it was about the events in which I was directly. Turned everything upside down. They laughed and spat with the men for a long time.
  19. +6
    20 December 2015 09: 03
    Quote: olimpiada15
    The echo of Moscow is anti-Russian propaganda.
    He has a large audience, as among FM, accessible from any mobile phone in any region, this is the only socio-political channel, the remaining channels are musical and entertainment, there is still sports.
    But there is no alternative publicly available political channel throughout the country !!!
    Here comes indo propaganda. In vain, respected people go there, ALWAYS !!! the information receives anti-Russian subtext - anti-Russian propaganda training of journalists EM is at a very high level, most often gradually, unobtrusively drive false information into the heads of the audience.
    Of course, I understand the freedom of speech is right, but what kind of freedom is it if the country does not have a patriotic, objective, public radio channel !!!

    Who finances Echo of Moscow? That and the customer of ALL cooking! It is not difficult to calculate, there would be a desire.
    1. +2
      20 December 2015 10: 38
      EM finances "Gazprom-National Heritage" - it is common knowledge,
      there is a regional news block that attracts by critically discussing regional innovations, and this attracts listeners. Propaganda is very neatly interwoven into such a generally correct canvas.
      The journalists of Echo are professionally delivered a speech, you will hear if you do not delve into the meaning. Unlike some television programs, where everyone yells at each other at once and it is absolutely incomprehensible what the participant wanted to say, such programs are simply not pleasant to listen to.
      And against the background of high professionalism of EM, a peculiar interpretation of the information of the invited respected person is interwoven, which negates the meaning of what was said.
      I’m not about to prohibit the channel-freedom of speech should be, but
      1) no need for state-owned companies to finance them
      2) it is necessary to create alternative radio channels, also highly professional, with a critical assessment of the events, but pro-Russian and accessible, and these are the ones that need to be financed by state-owned companies.
      You can always listen to the radio on your mobile phone, but there, apart from the Echo, no one covers the events.
      My denial of EM arose after the Ukrainian events, because I know what Bandera is, I understand the consequences of the glorification of fascism and people in the Donbass who were defending themselves from the atrocities of the new authorities. But few people in general possess such information firsthand on Ukrainian events. This is where information falls on fertile soil.
  20. cap
    0
    20 December 2015 09: 04
    “At the same time, all the combat missions assigned to the crews of the Long-Range Aviation to destroy the facilities of ISIS (the terrorist organization Islamic State banned in the Russian Federation) in Syria were successfully completed, that they chose not to hear inattentive journalists in the same Konovalov interview.
    Well, what kind of journalists are "inattentive".
    Specially interviewed to "invent" something nasty firsthand.
    "Soup from an ax" was made to order. They are for the whole world.
    At least they received an award for a "sensation" from the owners wassat .
  21. +1
    20 December 2015 09: 17
    And what is needed as to keep silent about everything in the USSR? Everything is fine, beautiful marquise ... The missiles are new, in Syria they are being tested in real combat, and if there are any problems, they need to be eliminated! And do not shut up! This is a normal process. And all cheers to the patriots, please pay attention to the latest fashion of our defense mines to report false success ahead of time! Recently they shot a bool, so they immediately declared everything was ok anyhow! But no, it turns out 1 of 2 missiles by! And this is very serious. The military satellite, which had been built for 10 years, was taken out on the satellite, crap again! But at first they said everything was ok, it entered the calculated orbit! Well, so how can you lie on the air? What trust will be? It’s better not to advertise the launch at all in the USSR, declare the successful one, and ignore the unsuccessful one. We need a very serious approach to the country's defense and work to eliminate the shortcomings, the shortcomings are the norm, but the sediment remains from lies.
    1. +1
      20 December 2015 23: 20
      Quote: Leks69Rus
      And what is needed as to keep silent about everything in the USSR?



      Hmm ... It’s somehow strange ... You started for health, and finished for peace ... Look, you contradict yourself ... I put you a plus for something sensibly expressed, but follow your own logic my friend ...
  22. bad
    +1
    20 December 2015 09: 55
    “On the air of the radio station Ekho Moskvy 19 in December, Major General Konovalov literally said about the problems of operating aircraft, not cruise missiles. Moreover, he had previously emphasized that the nature of these difficulties was due to "severe weather conditions" in which the crews of the Russian bombers performed their tasks ",
    that our military is scratching their tongues a lot without the permission of the higher command, and even on a liberal resource .. is it time to stop the initiative? .. specialists-ay .. where are you? ..
  23. bad
    +3
    20 December 2015 10: 07
    Quote: Leks69Rus
    And what is needed as to keep silent about everything in the USSR? Everything is fine, beautiful marquise ... The missiles are new, in Syria they are being tested in real combat, and if there are any problems, they need to be eliminated! And do not shut up! This is a normal process. And all cheers to the patriots, please pay attention to the latest fashion of our defense mines to report false success ahead of time! Recently they shot a bool, so they immediately declared everything was ok anyhow! But no, it turns out 1 of 2 missiles by! And this is very serious. The military satellite, which had been built for 10 years, was taken out on the satellite, crap again! But at first they said everything was ok, it entered the calculated orbit! Well, so how can you lie on the air? What trust will be? It’s better not to advertise the launch at all in the USSR, declare the successful one, and ignore the unsuccessful one. We need a very serious approach to the country's defense and work to eliminate the shortcomings, the shortcomings are the norm, but the sediment remains from lies.
    Any information, anyway from a person in uniform and with a considerable title, and even at an openly anti-Russian radio station can only be used to our detriment .. mattresses, and generally the NATO leadership harshly suppresses any attempt to scratch the tongue in front of the microphone and, moreover, the camera .. for this they and we also have specially appointed ranks, which will not tell much about the instructions .. and we have no general, that is an expert and an analyst ... damn it ... the behavior of some military men is worse than the bazaar women .. lovers will redden in front of the media ..
  24. -1
    20 December 2015 10: 08
    My grandfather was silent at the word Beria, although he wrote poetry about the war. And now there is too much freedom of speech. Every moron with money opens his mouth.
    Jokes in style ended
    -I can scream under the White House that Reagan is idiot, and I won’t be anything.
    - Yes, it’s not a question, I can also scream on Red Square that Reagan is idiot, and nothing will happen to me either.
  25. 0
    20 December 2015 10: 30
    On the air of the radio station "Echo of Moscow"

    Does anyone believe them?
    1. 0
      20 December 2015 18: 22
      Particularly ardent supporters of the liberals must be believed.
  26. +2
    20 December 2015 10: 36
    Quote: venaya
    Quote: demo
    On the air of the radio station "Echo of Moscow" ...
    You would have a general at the State Department would have been briefed for a briefing.
    Found a place to speak.

    In principle, it is impossible to climb out of this cesspool without getting dirty.
    You need to think about where you can and where you can’t climb!


    I apologize, but he had only one way out of a difficult situation, he immediately remembered an old joke about how to get out:

    “Comrade General, can you teach an astronomy lesson at school?” - I can. - And aren't you afraid of student questions? They are smart and corrosive guys. - Not.
    After the lesson: - Well, were there any questions? - Only one. Some clever guy asked: "Since when does the Sun revolve around the Earth?" - And what did you answer? - I answered evasively: - "Like, fuck you ... th!" laughing

    ps sorry for the hint at the mat, but you won’t erase words from the song.
  27. 0
    20 December 2015 10: 38
    The dust storms may have some difficulties during operations in Syria, but this should not be the subject of active discussion.
  28. 0
    20 December 2015 10: 49
    Major General Konovalov

    What the hell, excuse me, is the general doing on this station? What do the RF Ministry of Defense and Echo ... have in common? Are you masochists? In short, some questions and nothing more.
  29. +4
    20 December 2015 11: 02
    We are most likely talking about the salvo of the Kyrgyz Republic with bombers,
    when all the missiles gave a friendly short-lived - they exploded in
    open desert.
    The blame is probably not missiles, but the pilots (or navigators, or command),
    who launched missiles too early and missiles just don't
    reached the goal.
    So the general said evasively "the problems of the operation of aviation equipment,
    not cruise missiles. "
    1. 0
      20 December 2015 11: 43
      and what case, did I miss something?
      1. +4
        20 December 2015 11: 54
        Yes, there was some kind of video, as militants in the bare desert happily load on
        their pickups are the wreckage (tail parts) of the Kyrgyz Republic and they are taking them somewhere.
        Well, and discussion around. The people came to the conclusion: a general shortfall of volley.

        It's okay, in my opinion. New equipment, long-range flights, combat situation.
        The Americans and Tomahawks did the same.
  30. 0
    20 December 2015 12: 17
    My attitude to Mikhalkov is negative - he is for Russia, but only the one where there is a master and lackeys.
    This does not mean that he is wrong in everything. [/ Quote]

    And what, in Russia, is now something different?
    Are we all equal in Russia? I would like to see this!
  31. 0
    20 December 2015 12: 49
    Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, TK Zvezda and r / s Echo of Moscow present the program - "Military Council"
    December 19th to listen:
    http://echo.msk.ru/programs/voensovet/1678858-echo/
    on 37: 50
  32. 0
    20 December 2015 13: 54
    Quote: ver_
    ... do not read the echo of Moscow - this is one of the sites where I do not go at all


    Filter - necessary. They filter: it (all nastiness) - on the front page, this (at least something positive) - in the trash.
  33. +1
    20 December 2015 14: 41
    There can be no doubt that there are no special problems with the use of cruise missiles in the desert. They were with the use of the Kyrgyz Republic by Americans in Iraq, they can be with us, because successful pointing of the target requires accurate coordinates of targets, a sufficient level of contrast of the terrain in the radar and optical ranges and / or highlighting targets at the final stage of pointing the target. With the contrast of the terrain in Syria, things are not much better than in Iraq, and to highlight the targets, special forces in the target area are required, which is not always possible. And not all goals there are motionless. These black guys also adapt to new conditions and scatter like cockroaches at the slightest threat of an air strike. And the threat of a strike of the Kyrgyz Republic is often visible to the naked eye
  34. 0
    20 December 2015 15: 12
    "General, disgrace!" AP Chekhov "Wedding".
  35. 0
    20 December 2015 18: 19
    It's time for this "Echo of Moscow" to cut the wires with a tractor again laughing
  36. 0
    20 December 2015 21: 46
    What would the best aces of the USSR answer!
  37. 0
    20 December 2015 22: 47
    There are very serious problems with Russian cruise missiles in Syria: they definitely hit the target and effectively destroy terrorism.
    There are equally serious problems with Russian aviation, but besides this, it is lacking due to the very high popularity and increased demand among the local population.
  38. 0
    21 December 2015 01: 30
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: RuslanNN
    as me zae ...... about this echo of Moscow.

    Why are you listening to him ??? smile

    Yes, in my life I did not listen to these clowns, here on the sites they write different about their wrecking, I read
  39. 0
    21 December 2015 05: 56
    you can and should listen to everyone (for a better understanding of the situation), but to believe in this copper-cesspool, not to respect yourself ...

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