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Ishchenko: Washington has a plan in case of disintegration of Ukraine

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Rostislav Ischenko, President of the System Analysis and Forecasting Center, explains why it is more profitable for the world centers of power to preserve Ukrainian statehood in its present form, what is the strength of regional elites, and what plan does Washington have in the event of Ukraine’s disintegration.


Ishchenko: Washington has a plan in case of disintegration of Ukraine

If in Washington they face the collapse of Ukraine, they will play with regional leaders

In politics, one can never talk about some results, it cannot be left on December 31, and to start again on January 1. Those processes that started earlier, they will continue in the 2016 year. If we talk about the stability of the Ukrainian state, it is no longer stable and has long been no longer a state, but retains its statehood only to the extent that international players recognize it. Both Brussels, Paris, and Berlin, it is unprofitable to maintain Ukrainian statehood, but to state its destruction is even more losing option.

As soon as we state its destruction, the question immediately arises as to what to do next. It is necessary to create something new, but you need a clear understanding of how to create, what to create, and to whom the new formation will be oriented. In addition, the main world players have completely different views on the subject of the dispute. If the United States, the EU and the IMF did not find 3 billion to pay off Russian debts, then they certainly will not find tens and hundreds of billions of dollars over 5-10 for years.

At the same time, everyone understands that the regime is not something that is not viable, it does not even live, the local elections in Ukraine showed that the regime is not able to compete even with regional elites. In all regions, the elections were won by local regional elites, no matter how Poroshenko strained. Therefore, when Biden arrived in Ukraine, he said that there was no need to hold elections any longer, let everything remain as it is.

His words are connected with the fact that US politicians, who have more education and experience than the Ukrainian one, are well aware that any of the following elections, regardless of the world community, will lead to the disintegration of Ukraine. This process can be slowed down, one can overlook and maintain the integrity of the state for some time with the help of intravenous injections, but it is already impossible to stop its disintegration and start the reversal process.

Sprawl is inevitable, although the world centers of power may pretend for some time that Ukraine as a state exists, albeit nominally. A state is not just an anthem, a coat of arms, a flag and international recognition. In fact, this is an internal consensus, and it is possible only when internal power is needed by someone, when it provides for your needs. Do not just collect taxes from you, but you know where your taxes go.

Now there is a situation when the central government has already lost the function that it could play in the interests of the whole of Ukraine and is unable to attract more external funding. The economy is ruined, the budget is impossible to form at the expense of taxes and fees. The center has lost its need for regions, and the process of disintegration depends only on the acumen of regional elites, their real, power and other capabilities. Kievan Rus also fell apart in its time. The center only took, but gave nothing in return.

By giving money to Kiev, the regions decide all issues on their own - they protect themselves, solve administrative problems, and even independently are ready to enter foreign markets. And why do they need Poroshenko? Disintegration is still contained in two things in one bottle. On the one hand, the interest of the United States, which controls the Ukrainian government and politics in general, is to maintain a single player, which can be shown to the world and say, here it is Ukraine. Not Odessa, Zaporizhia, Lviv, Zhytomyr, but all of Ukraine. And on the other hand, the convulsive fear of the local regional elites in front of the Americans. But they do not understand that Americans depend on them to a much greater extent than they do on Americans. If in Washington they face the collapse of Ukraine, they will play with Filatov in Dnepropetrovsk, Baloga in Transcarpathia, Saakashvili in Odessa, and simply forget about Kiev. Of course, it is more profitable for them to play with Kiev, but this will not leave their interests anywhere.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 21 December 2015 08: 17
    +2
    Sooner or later, Washington will be forced to merge the Kiev regime.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 December 2015 08: 25
      10
      When Petruha is finally tired of mattresses, they will certainly replace him, the question is who they will pose.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 December 2015 08: 29
        10
        Quote: 79807420129
        When Petruha is finally tired of mattresses, they will certainly replace him, the question is who they will pose.


        So it is true, but why do we need this mess near by? We will, or not, be dragged into the decision on this misunderstanding, and then we cannot make a mistake, and make the United States disappear beyond the horizon.
        1. spiriolla-45
          spiriolla-45 21 December 2015 13: 05
          +1
          And under what conditions will the US disappear beyond the horizon? I know few of them. First, if a super volcano wakes up, then there will be no time for Ukrainians. Second, if a larger meteorite falls, then they simply will not be. Other situations, I do not see. The United States will always and everywhere poke its nose and pinch it while no one.
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      3. Dimka999
        Dimka999 21 December 2015 09: 16
        -1
        Yaytsenyuk will be a prize))
      4. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 21 December 2015 09: 30
        +4
        If you suddenly heard an unusually loud sound of drained water in the toilet - do not rush to run to your toilet, it's just the Yankees poured Ukrainians into the sewers! negative
      5. WKS
        WKS 21 December 2015 11: 50
        +1
        Quote: 79807420129
        When Petruha is finally tired of mattresses, they will certainly replace him, the question is who they will pose.

        The choice is great. From Sukashvili to Biden, father or son.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 08: 30
      11
      Ishchenko is wrong: the Yankees will not play with the regional elites, the Amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobic project that can only be implemented by the Kiev authorities, the regionals will immediately take up the problems of survival and think about "who to cling to" and they will have no time for the West's globalist messages.
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 21 December 2015 08: 39
        +2
        Quote: hydrox
        Ishchenko is wrong

        He repeated many times that immediately after the collapse of the USSR, the further collapse of Ukraine was already predicted. West goes west. East to east, and the center remains Ukraine itself.
        In the dashing 90, there was a lot of talk about the collapse of Russia, but Russia is a federal state (the republic - the RSFSR in the days of the USSR) and centrifugal forces have always existed, then Ukraine was and is a unitary state. And centrifugal forces have begun to manifest recently.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 21 December 2015 09: 45
          +1
          Quote: ImPerts
          West goes west. East to east, and the center remains Ukraine itself.



          In this case, what remains in the center will hardly be called a state ...
          Although ... There are such states as Switzerland, and even Luxembourg and Andorra ...
          Only those "kids" have a much stronger economy than the current, still integral, Ukraine ...

          So the center will have to stick to someone-stick ...
      2. Niki
        Niki 21 December 2015 09: 16
        +2
        It is you who slightly underestimate the interests of supranational or transnational structures. The Globalist Europe project is to destroy all and any still existing sovereign structures, which historically still have independence. For example, the globalist "center" (which does not exist explicitly, so I put it in quotation marks) reacts very mildly to all sorts of buzzing ups by Catalonia, Scotland, Great Britain as a whole and some not yet well-known projects of regional elites in Europe itself. For example, Iraq's sovereignty is breaking down, they are starting to break Turkey, they practically broke Syria. Let's go to the second round in Libya. Montenegro continues to booze.

        This is a mass process. And since the game in this mass is coordinated asynchronously, the illusion of poor controllability arises.

        Biden called for federalization of Ukraine already publicly and this is quite in line with the strategy.

        Most importantly, Ishchenko did not say that when redistributing police powers from the center to the regions, state assets will have to be deducted from the balance of Ukraine. Beginning with the gas transportation system and the entire gas industry, American people have firmly settled in this part, and this is not only his son.
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 21 December 2015 09: 24
        +3
        Quote: hydrox
        amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobian project


        Nope. It is much easier to do business with the regionals - they are hungry and more greedy. They will be happy to lend their "Dikankino farms" to the one who pays the most - even Patsyuk, even the devil with horns. And the so-called. The "European Union" will manage to tear apart the territory called the former Ukraine at the lowest cost (Magyars, Poles, etc., are already painting the area in their own color on their maps). And all the "viruses" (NATO, EU, USA, and now Turetchina with its ambitions) are here and there. And they will not give a damn about the interests of Russia - they will install missile defense systems, missiles, spoil the earth with burial grounds for nuclear weapons and shale gas wells. And the Waltzmans & Co. fled into the acquired chalets and ranches, and we ... th them on the former "nenko". bully
      4. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 21 December 2015 09: 37
        -2
        Quote: hydrox
        Ishchenko is wrong: the Yankees will not play with regional elites, amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobian project
        Exactly, the US Benya was easily leaked. And it’s not at all for Ukraine to fall apart later. Again on New Year's Eve spells about the collapse of Ukraine. Nothing will give the USA to fall apart, not for that 5 billion were swelled in the Maidan. And the fact that 3 billion Russia was not found is not their problem, absolutely. Here Ishchenko, as always, carries a gag.
        1. avt
          avt 21 December 2015 11: 35
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          . Again on New Year's Eve spells about the collapse of Ukraine.

          No. You are right only in one thing - the timing of the process launched by the Maydauns on the Maidan was somewhat delayed by the inertness of the Ukrainian population in the hope that they strangled his wife, and he stood by and said - "Be patient. Maybe it will be okay." And our desire to really work with one a Gauleiter in Kiev, well, like with Karzai in Afghanistan, but the process of crushing is going on and elections, or rather a victory, moreover, a victory by force in the regions where the piglets of the piglets tried to break in, the regional hosts consolidate this ugly "federalization", and in fact - disintegration. The US leaves all this to Russia as a headache when putting things in order.
      5. kotvov
        kotvov 21 December 2015 10: 49
        +2
        Ishchenko is wrong: the Yankees will not play with regional elites, amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobic project, ,,
        it’s like that, we don’t need this collapse either. But, let’s say, there comes a time when Kiev will not be able or unwilling to transfer money to regions, and this is where Gulyai-Pole will begin, although it is already being observed, but to the full extent.
      6. Altona
        Altona 21 December 2015 11: 18
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        Ishchenko is wrong: the Yankees will not play with the regional elites, the Amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobic project that can only be implemented by the Kiev authorities, the regionals will immediately take up the problems of survival and think about "who to cling to" and they will have no time for the West's globalist messages.

        ---------------------
        The Americans, in principle, FSUs, split up like Yugoslavia. It fits well with the principle of "divide and rule". They recognize these separate pieces, the Russian pieces may not recognize them. They will put their bases in two pieces, by the way it is easier to maintain them than the whole of Ukraine. As a sketch, this option is quite. Well, of course, playing off with neighbors and other conflicts in the range. That is, the system will be so variegated. But it does not contradict American plans.
      7. avt
        avt 21 December 2015 11: 23
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        Ischenko is wrong:

        He is absolutely right. Moreover, his innocence is confirmed by the USA policy in Iran, Libya and the Levant as a whole
        Quote: hydrox
        Yankees will not play with regional elites

        for a sweet soul, just like with the Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan and the Shiites in the rest of the country.
        Quote: hydrox
        amers need a united Ukraine as a Russophobian project,

        Yes, they do not give a damn about this Ukraine, they will quickly rebuild, again, like in the same Iraq - they will create a banderlozh igil, by analogy with the distribution of Sunites with Shiites, some kind of Transcarpathian “Kurdistan”. Not a problem, and again
        Quote: hydrox
        Ukraine as a Russophobic project,
        will not disappear with this regional chaos. Since the local Bologokalomoyshi will be in EVEN MORE dependence on the same USs and their hatred of Russia will be even greater, well, in proportion to the fear of losing what they have left “acquired by honest labor.” So Ivchenko is right when he states quite an objective reality taking place in the current time regime. The elections REALLY showed, and the public canine wedding of hot Caucasian Ukrainians secured, a simple fact - Ukraine is ALREADY divided into uluses independent of the Kiev authorities.Kiev only saws incoming loans and a trickle of taxes from the localities, and local feudal lords are skinning Ukraine for now. gritting teeth, the degree of tooth wear is in direct proportion to the amount of subsidies received and cutting from one's own person in Kiev. Of course it is more comfortable for the US to work with one central Gauleiter in Kiev, but in the event of chaos and fragmentation of the country, they will be rebuilt quickly, as already said - experience is and for them it is not important.
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 21 December 2015 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: avvg
      Sooner or later, Washington will be forced to merge the Kiev regime.
      - Wow, the Yankees "frolic"! The complete collapse of the country, thousands of victims, hatred for Russia and the whole world in particular. And if you screw Washington into the answer? With repentance and restoration, so that later it would be discouraging to "distribute pies"?
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 21 December 2015 09: 49
      +3
      The Americans will keep them "on a drip" for a long time, but the Ukrainian people will just hum and do nothing. And all because the Americans need to keep this hotbed of inflammation on our border. Otherwise, we will begin to hinder them more in the global international arena.
    5. iouris
      iouris 21 December 2015 11: 27
      0
      Freudian slip?
  2. bronik
    bronik 21 December 2015 08: 19
    +7
    USA, which control the Ukrainian government and politics in general

    Modern Ukraine has ceased to even think on its own how they will command, they will do so.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: bronik
      as they command, they will do so.


      This is only if the power of the piglet "resists" in Kiev until summer ...
  3. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 21 December 2015 08: 23
    +3
    plan for the collapse of Ukraine? Yes, he alone, total civil, collapse to the ground. And then a muzzle with a brick and type, ohohooh, and who did it !? and overseas in soft hooves.
    and then Russia think what to do with it ...
    The gift is just a jerk (((
  4. evil partisan
    evil partisan 21 December 2015 08: 23
    +2
    Finally, today they begin a technical default, but something quiet ...
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 21 December 2015 08: 34
      +2
      Officially they have 10 days of grace period. But still they won’t give it away, because there is simply no dough.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 21 December 2015 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Finally, today they begin a technical default, but something quiet ...


      So even Moscow is sleeping, not that the whole West is falling asleep, but the Americans have just gone to bed, their morning will begin just. when Russia’s working day ends ...
    3. Niki
      Niki 21 December 2015 09: 19
      +2
      Yes, and it will be quiet. Money loves silence.
      Hysterical screams in television and print media are only for people.
    4. veksha50
      veksha50 21 December 2015 09: 49
      0
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Finally, today they begin a technical default, but something quiet ...



      What joy do not jump ??? So it’s not yet evening, the torches in the holds were not loaded to the required condition ...
  5. Angara
    Angara 21 December 2015 08: 23
    0
    Nah yes! It seems that there will be a phenomenon of the state of specific princes. wassat
  6. udincev
    udincev 21 December 2015 08: 25
    +3
    To be continued.
    Where it leads, and when viewed.
    People only feel sorry. Not horses. People.
  7. Boos
    Boos 21 December 2015 08: 29
    18
    We could have devoted an article to the Generalisimo on VO today, but he predicted what was happening on the outskirts of the USSR. Today is Stalin's birthday! Eternal memory and glory to him!
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 21 December 2015 09: 08
      0
      I support! The only great ruler of Russia, if not cool!
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 21 December 2015 09: 46
        +1
        Quote: avva2012
        I support! The only great ruler of Russia, if not cool!
        Come on, Peter the Great was at least no worse
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 21 December 2015 09: 57
          +3
          Come on, Peter the Great was at least no worse
          In what? Did you chop off the Sagittarius heads with your own hands? Did you order your son to be strangled? Won the Great War? Has the industry raised from scratch? ? ? ? And, many more questions. One of which, "and it was necessary to tear the veins?" And, also, there is an opinion that the "table of ranks" and other innovations are the beginning of the Bureaucracy in Russia. The last two questions are, of course, controversial. But, with I.V. Stalin, no one beats! If, objectively start comparing, of course.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 21 December 2015 13: 09
            0
            Quote: avva2012
            In what? Did you chop off the Sagittarius heads with your own hands? Did you order your son to be strangled? Won the Great War? Has the industry raised from scratch? ? ? ? And, many more questions. One of which, "and it was necessary to tear the veins?" And, also, there is an opinion that the "table of ranks" and other innovations are the beginning of the Bureaucracy in Russia. The last two questions are, of course, controversial. But, with I.V. Stalin, no one beats! If, objectively, start comparing, of course.

            Sagittarius chopped, so Comrade Stalin, too, was not an angel. The court was over the son, was sentenced as a traitor. Industry with 0 raised. The fleet built and reorganized the army. He won the Northern War, and it was vitally important at that time. I am silent about the table of grades - were the clerks in the orders better? I consider an equal scale figure.
  8. avva2012
    avva2012 21 December 2015 08: 32
    0
    Biden, when he arrived in Ukraine, said that it was no longer necessary to hold elections, let everything remain as it is.

    What a horror, but hde democracy? I couldn’t say such a light, these are all agents of Putin, by golly!
  9. Averias
    Averias 21 December 2015 08: 36
    15
    what is the strength of regional elites

    Well, what are the elites? Since when has the "former" crime, swindlers of all stripes - suddenly become elites? By the way, does this not only apply to Ukraine? Who identified them in the elite. What criteria were you guided by? I am enraged by statements of this kind - the financial elite, the oligarchic elite. Why are they elitist? Who decides and "distributes" this "honorary" title?
    The elite, in my opinion, are people who have made a tremendous contribution to the cultural, scientific and historical heritage of the country. To hell with him, albeit financially and economically, and not for personal enrichment, but vice versa. Those who have increased the wealth of the country. And we, they, and everywhere, financial tycoons, worthless politicians of all stripes - suddenly became the elite. After all, in theory, the elite are the best representatives of the people of this or that country. And in this case, looking at these elites, a conclusion suggests itself - if the elite is such that "there is nowhere to put samples," then what kind of people are they? Elite Mlyn.
    1. oracul
      oracul 21 December 2015 09: 16
      +7
      I agree. I’ll just add: they did not suddenly become an elite, but as a result of an operation, drawn up with the help of the media, TV and the Internet, to form public opinion. I give credit to these bastards: they quickly realized how great the impact of modern media on the masses is. Having fenced off from them by a virtual world of vivid and unpretentious spectacles-fantasies and a chewing gum of eternal everyday problems, the creators of modern elites themselves live in their own isolated real world of luxury and glamor, in which they are carefully served by journalists and lyceum of all stripes, content with crumbs from the lordly table, but happy from external involvement to the greats of this world.
  10. BNM
    BNM 21 December 2015 08: 41
    +1
    Quote: 79807420129
    When Petruha is finally tired of mattresses, they will certainly replace him, the question is who they will pose.

    I won’t be surprised if a black president appears there lol
  11. Name
    Name 21 December 2015 08: 50
    +2
    I'm sorry. But to chat ...
  12. Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 December 2015 08: 50
    +2
    Ishchenko-clever, his analyst commands respect! The collapse of Ukraine is natural and does not cause any illusions? For a while, Ukraine as a unitary "state" will be sorry to exist. Everything depends on the patience of ordinary Ukrainians, who do not understand well where the Kiev junta is leading them. The turning point will be the lifting of the moratorium on the sale of black soil on a gigantic scale.
    1. mag nit
      mag nit 21 December 2015 08: 58
      +1
      And they will sell black earth, along with poorly understood ordinary Ukrainians ...
  13. midivan
    midivan 21 December 2015 08: 54
    +3
    If in Washington they encounter the collapse of Ukraine, they will play with Filatov in Dnepropetrovsk, Baloga in Transcarpathia, Saakashvili in Odessa and simply forget about Kiev. Of course, it is more profitable for them to play with Kiev, but their interests will not disappear from this.
    they already played out seem, how much dough swelled and bought us the Crimea? and as soon as the gunpowder is forgotten there will turn out to be a man who is not at all profitable for them, Odessa’s misha will have to be forgotten too, and in the regions they’ll just waste money, since the cowboys will not sit in their armchairs either, the month will be silent a month later and the dingo dog will have to telepath overseas is possible, or to shuravi, but they will have several options, the Caspian is not virgin land with relatives of the Turks
  14. victorrat
    victorrat 21 December 2015 09: 10
    0
    Ishchenko lives in a fantasy world, as does Poroshenko. He argues from the point of view of a resident of the Independent Independent Country. Nobody needs Ruin anymore. She played her part. A curtain.
  15. VeterS
    VeterS 21 December 2015 09: 12
    +3
    Hmmm, but I’ll ask (to myself, it seems) a stupid question: - Who will pay for all this? The "sausage" was devoured by the citizens and citizens of the once state of Ukraine, it's time to get out of the table, and who will pay for the "supper"?
  16. askort154
    askort154 21 December 2015 09: 21
    +1
    Ukraine is not of economic interest to the United States.
    Ukraine is needed for the United States, as a bridgehead (political and military) for the fight against Russia, and
    likewise, the prevention of rapprochement between Russia and the EU, especially with Germany.
  17. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 21 December 2015 09: 23
    +5
    After I saw a comedy on Ukrainian state administration in the person of an Armenian and a Georgian, calling themselves real Ukrainians, now it’s ridiculous to even stutter about Ukrainian statehood. If you add Yatsenyuk, with his manners militant Mushinka, then just laughter and sin.
  18. gg.na
    gg.na 21 December 2015 09: 25
    +1
    - "Do you have a plan ?! Mister Fix !!! wassat Of course America has plans for Ukraine, how can it be without plans then? Everything will fall apart to the ground and then they will do it and will broadcast from behind a puddle what kind of thing happened to Ukraine, we tried to do something there and there ... Well and so on same spirit! And Ishchenko, as always, is right and said the top ten! good
  19. Mihail55
    Mihail55 21 December 2015 09: 28
    0
    Everything is natural. Wherever these "democratizers" set foot, there is chaos and collapse!
  20. Stinger
    Stinger 21 December 2015 09: 45
    0
    They may have a plan. But do we have it?
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda 21 December 2015 09: 53
    +3
    There is a PLAN, in Kiev "ship" (matchbox) - 25 UAH. Two and a half loaves of bread. sad puffed up, and you can think about an independent .. and do not bother with questions about the price of gas, electricity.
    And when you forgive "knocking", the cops answer - bobby on the road, there are no cars. You have to beat your muzzle yourself, so then you’re also to blame. Make excuses before the "femis!"
  22. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 21 December 2015 10: 11
    0
    then Ukraine was and is a unitary state
    This is when the state of Ukraine was ?!
  23. worldofpain
    worldofpain 21 December 2015 11: 07
    0
    I got the impression that the Americans cannot fully control the political processes in Ukraine, and most likely Ukraine as a state will collapse completely. As usual, the Americans will "wash their hands" and say goodbye that Russia is to blame and we could not do anything. And believe me, Russia will have to restore the abandoned Ukraine, its statehood and sovereignty. Tell me why, but because we are like that and we cannot be changed.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 December 2015 11: 29
      0
      Ukraine as a state never existed, and Karl Marx lives in the hearts of working people. Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire (Russia).
  24. Wolka
    Wolka 21 December 2015 11: 48
    +2
    in my opinion, the Yankees are increasingly trying to destroy the state institutions of ukraine by depriving them of their independence, and to drag Russia as deeply as possible into it, so that then at one fine moment hang this whole "booth" around the neck of Russia under the specious mask of the restoration of a "brotherly state", because In this case, Russia will again be forced to once again deal with other people's problems, while investing significant own resources, and primarily financial ones, which will ultimately distract Russia from solving more significant international and urgent problems and weaken it economically ...
  25. B.G.
    B.G. 21 December 2015 12: 33
    0
    It’s hard to argue with Ishchenko, in most cases everything in the case speaks and substantiates very logically.
  26. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 21 December 2015 13: 04
    +2
    And why do the Americans soar about Ukraine?
    Ukrainians will spit good or bad Americans. This does not affect the United States. Europe and Russia are completely different, we directly border on great Ukrainians. So, the waves diverge and reach us. Based on this, Americans can do with Ukraine everything that comes into their inflamed brain.
  27. pts-m
    pts-m 21 December 2015 14: 08
    0
    Without financial returns from the ruins of urine, phishington yearns for the finances that he RIPPs off from other “you and bastards.” Keeping such a bydoll state, it will already be nonsense. And your Yankees will remind the elite ... what are they worse than the Kakhlovs. ..
  28. PValery53
    PValery53 21 December 2015 17: 57
    0
    Quote: oracul
    the creators of modern elites themselves live in their own isolated real world of luxury and glamor, in which they are carefully served by journalists and lyceums of all stripes, content with crumbs from the master's table, but happy from external involvement with the greats of this world.

    All such servants, without fail, - on the rack! -Lost souls! “So that everyone else like them would begin to serve the benefit of their people, and not, as they consider, cattle.”
  29. pentarhist
    pentarhist 21 December 2015 21: 09
    -1
    Devotees A film about why they betrayed New Russia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_u03xqtS8k