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Czechs will help the Ukrainian defense industry to bring the Dozor-B armored personnel carrier to NATO standards

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The Czech company VOP has signed a memorandum of cooperation with Ukroboronprom, under which it is planned to bring the Dozor-B armored personnel carriers in compliance with NATO standards, reports MIC with reference to the deputy director of the Ukrainian concern Artur Cherubimov.




“The essence of the memorandum is that the Czech partners involved in the production of armored vehicles will help to bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to the standards of NATO countries,” Cherubimov said after signing the document.

"This is about the difference in calibers of weapons, radio communications and other nuances in which Ukrainian weapons differ from weapons NATO countries. Also VOP will help in the process of certification of "Dozor" in Europe, "- he explained to journalists.

Cherubimov noted that "Dozor-B" passed state tests and launched a series. “The first contract with the Ministry of Defense has already been signed, and the first batch of Dozorov will go to the troops next spring,” said the deputy director.

The Cherubim did not speak about the number of cars or their value, citing official secrets.

According to him, the modernization of armored vehicles "designed for both the APU and the export market." At the same time, the representative of the concern noted that ““ Dozor ”is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality”.

The production of these armored vehicles is engaged in the Lviv armored plant. They are now making about 10 "Dozor". The plant management promised to increase capacity and to produce 50 machines a month next year.
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  1. Gorynovich
    Gorynovich 18 December 2015 13: 03
    -1
    And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 18 December 2015 13: 09
      -1
      duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 18 December 2015 13: 14
        +5
        Quote: Sasha 19871987
        duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing


        Czechs will be "happy" working with this "product" and of course it will capture the entire market.
        laughing
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 18 December 2015 13: 29
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing


          Czechs will be "happy" working with this "product" and of course it will capture the entire market.
          laughing

          Czechs helped Adik, now banderlogs. The end will be one. soldier
        2. vic58
          vic58 18 December 2015 16: 37
          0
          Scrap market? Or exotic hearse? No.
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 18 December 2015 21: 56
            +2
            “We are talking about the difference in the caliber of weapons, in radio communications and other nuances in which Ukrainian weapons are different from weapons of NATO countries


            Well, with the caliber, it’s clear that NATO has overdue ammunition. But to contact anyone according to NATO standards, they have all the Soviet technology (with the exception of junk that they gave them last time) request
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    2. vell.65
      vell.65 18 December 2015 13: 45
      0
      Quote: Gorynovich
      And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

      A simpler horse pedal is used. lol
    3. Tor5
      Tor5 18 December 2015 13: 50
      0
      Well, old Egyptian ...
      1. kayman4
        kayman4 18 December 2015 14: 09
        +3
        Quote: Tor5
        Well, old Egyptian ...



        You look at our armor plates from Kamaz - the same.
      2. self-propelled
        self-propelled 18 December 2015 15: 52
        +3
        Quote: Tor5
        Well, old Egyptian ...

        and what is ancient Egyptian? what outwardly (and as intended) looks like a BA-64? it’s not like Egypt (and not so long ago it was).
    4. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 18 December 2015 14: 13
      +4
      Quote: Gorynovich
      And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

      pretty stupid comment, IMHO.
      1. self-propelled
        self-propelled 18 December 2015 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        pretty stupid comment, IMHO.

        it’s such a fun - to watch everything made in Ukraine
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 18 December 2015 14: 36
      +6
      The original design, the dawn of motorism. See, Balaganov, what can be done from a simple Singer sewing machine? A small adaptation - and it turned out a lovely collective farm sheaves.
      Ilf and Petrov, "The Golden Calf"
    6. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 18 December 2015 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: Gorynovich
      And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?


      LAZ redo wink
    7. northern
      northern 18 December 2015 15: 36
      +1
      Quote: Gorynovich
      And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

      On Maidan farting pair
    8. northern
      northern 18 December 2015 16: 37
      +1
      We have here clearly the developer of "Shame-B" worn out, minus everything. I corrected everyone as I could.
      1. self-propelled
        self-propelled 18 December 2015 16: 54
        +1
        about "-" not for me, but still I would like to hear constructive criticism about this machine (preferably in comparison with modern counterparts).
  2. The black
    The black 18 December 2015 13: 05
    10
    ... in other words, the Czechs will help Ukraine to cut the budget money allocated for the defense ... laughing
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    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 18 December 2015 14: 09
      +2
      Quote: Black
      ... in other words, the Czechs will help Ukraine to cut the budget money allocated for the defense ... laughing

      not a fact: "The Czech company VOP has signed with Ukroboronprom" memorandum about cooperation ".
      This is not a contract yet. Although, the way they interpret the Budapest memorandum is overwhelming.
  3. Barboskin
    Barboskin 18 December 2015 13: 05
    0
    Chekhov is sorry ..
    1. northern
      northern 18 December 2015 15: 39
      +1
      Not at all. They have a new round of "civilization", in the 20th century the Hitlerite Nazis were helped in the line of arms, in the 21st - by Poroshenko.
  4. lukke
    lukke 18 December 2015 13: 06
    +3
    what can I say - well done Czechs, chop a chip on the fly). Then, when there will be another government in Ukraine and the contracts will be broken one after another, the Czechs will understand the futility of working with this state, but it will be too late)
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 December 2015 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: lukke
      what can I say - well done Czechs, chopping a chip on the fly)

      --------------------
      The car has long been dubbed "Shame-B" due to a number of design flaws, critical in operation. "Shame" in Czech means "attention, atas, nix" ... That is, even by name, everything will match .. laughing
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 18 December 2015 15: 31
        +3
        Quote: Altona
        The car has long been dubbed "Shame-B" due to a number of design flaws, critical in operation. "Shame" in Czech means "attention, atas, nix" ... That is, even by name, everything will match ..


        As for the translation, you, colleague, are right. "POSOR" in many Eastern European languages ​​is ATTENTION. But I somewhat disagree with your other statements, due to the fact that the Czechs are serious about modernizing, and sometimes even improving, Soviet armored vehicles. For example, the Czechs were the first in the world to be able to place a 122 mm howitzer on a wheeled chassis, and so effectively that such an artillery system, created on the basis of "Carnation", is still actively used in a number of countries. (according to the "National Interest" in 16 countries.) hi
        1. Altona
          Altona 18 December 2015 16: 41
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          that the Czechs are serious about the modernization, and sometimes the improvement of Soviet armored vehicles

          ------------------
          I don't care what the Czechs think about modernization, I just sarcastically and mock the attempts of the Ukrainian defense industry to give birth to something full. Secondly, the Czechs will not modernize for free, and now Ukraine is simply "rich in pennies" that even the debts have ceased to pay off. I doubt that anything worthwhile will be born beyond the conversations. Hence all my sarcasm.
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 18 December 2015 18: 45
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            I don't care what the Czechs think about modernization, I just sarcastically and mock the attempts of the Ukrainian defense industry to give birth to something full. Secondly, the Czechs will not modernize for free, and now Ukraine is simply "rich in pennies" that even the debts have ceased to pay off. I doubt that anything worthwhile will be born beyond the conversations. Hence all my sarcasm.


            Eugene, if we discard the whole banter and even that, we have to admit that in some way we will lose the same military orders, because the Czechs, I repeat, have a very serious scientific, technical and industrial base. hi
            1. Felix2
              Felix2 19 December 2015 08: 40
              0
              By the way, the Poles bought a license for the production of patrols. German engine, transmission Alison automatic and inside-controlled module, V-shaped bottom, in fact, everything that I know. I personally like the look.
        2. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 18 December 2015 17: 12
          +1
          Czechs have never treated Russia well. In all armed conflicts, they have always been on the side of the opponents of Russia. So now with Poland. If she is an opponent of Russia - why not help her? Skins are corrupt. Both those and these!
          1. Extraneous
            Extraneous 18 December 2015 23: 16
            0
            It depends on how you look at it. And who were on the side of the civilian "White Czechs"?
  5. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 18 December 2015 13: 07
    0
    century contract. we would have their problems.
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 18 December 2015 17: 20
      +2
      So this is a memorandum, not a contract. In fact, an empty bazaar, like two drunkards in a bar squirming and promising each other anything, in the morning of course no one remembers anything and is not going to do anything.
      1. Altona
        Altona 18 December 2015 17: 43
        +1
        Quote: Max Otto
        So this is a memorandum, not a contract. Essentially an Empty Bazaar

        --------------------
        Here I am about the same. Tomorrow you can sign the same one between Antonov and Boeing, between Motor Sich and Bell, between GM and ZAZ. Maybe even a design layout or a prototype will be born, but it is unlikely that something is serial or massive. Zhytomyr-rock and Chernigov-trash in general so far.
  6. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 December 2015 13: 13
    0
    Such "benefactors" will only help poor Ukraine get to hell faster!
  7. venaya
    venaya 18 December 2015 13: 14
    +3
    modernization of armored personnel carriers "designed for both the Armed Forces and the export market"

    What is the essence of this deal? Bring armored personnel carriers to NATO standards? This is why the NATO cartridges should be suitable and there would be no problems with the supply of NATO ammunition in the planned new military operations or something.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2015 13: 14
    +4
    Did the Czechs secure themselves about paying for their services?
    help bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to NATO standards

    With radio communications and caliber for machine guns, it’s clear that there would be money, but you can buy everything. And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 18 December 2015 13: 27
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      there would be money, but you can buy everything.

      Yes, the problem is that they are not. They will put NATO machine guns without cartridges, ride, guys.
    2. _my opinion
      _my opinion 18 December 2015 13: 29
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Did the Czechs secure themselves about paying for their services?
      help bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to NATO standards

      With radio communications and caliber for machine guns, it’s clear that there would be money, but you can buy everything. And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.

      it’s simpler, but they don’t use simple ways, and here it will fall over to the Czechs, and they themselves will live up and cheer the horses (Europe with us) smile
    3. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 18 December 2015 14: 17
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.

      At the same time, the representative of the concern noted that "Dozor" is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality. "

      Czech debugging and will erase these "two and a half times". However, one should not forget that NATO also has rogues and beggars - Albania, Greece, + soon Montenegro. Their budgetary conditionally NATO garage will suit, probably.
  9. YakimovSS
    YakimovSS 18 December 2015 13: 22
    +1
    Does anyone have an understanding of the tactical purpose and army niche of these cars?
    1. aviator1913
      aviator1913 18 December 2015 13: 31
      0
      An analogue of our "Tiger" probably.
      1. Forest
        Forest 18 December 2015 16: 21
        +2
        No, our Tiger is more of a machine for the quick delivery of people, cartridges, etc., for special forces, intelligence. In general, an armored version of the old UAZ. The watch occupies a niche BRDM, well, with certain weapons modules - BMP.
    2. Altona
      Altona 18 December 2015 13: 36
      +1
      Quote: YakimovSS
      Does anyone have an understanding of the tactical purpose and army niche of these cars?

      ---------------------
      The right-wingers blocking transport arteries, relocating troops to protect speaking four-star tunics, raids to rob the local population, intercepting smuggled flows in Mukachevo. The list goes on ... hi
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 18 December 2015 17: 25
        0
        Quote: Altona
        The list goes on ...

        and the civil version will be?)))
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 18 December 2015 13: 23
    +5
    I remembered an old anecdote: "The instructions are clearly written! After assembly, finalize with a file!" laughing
  11. _my opinion
    _my opinion 18 December 2015 13: 26
    +1
    According to him, the modernization of armored personnel carriers "is designed for both the Armed Forces and the export market."

    export market? laughing
  12. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 13: 26
    0
    VOP company .... I would not trust a company with that name .... laughing
    1. Simple
      Simple 18 December 2015 13: 46
      +4
      Quote: Yozhkin Cat
      VOP company .... I would not trust a company with that name ...

      Yes?
      And in vain

      Czech state company VOP CZ (before 2012 - VOP 025 (Vojensky opravarensky podnik 025)).




      T-72M4 CZ


      Pandur II 8x8 - CZ



      BVP-2 (and 1 too)



      Anyway ..
      KUB 1S91M1 KUB 2P25M1 9A35M


      ===============================


      1. Altona
        Altona 18 December 2015 16: 45
        0
        Quote: Just
        Yes?
        And in vain

        ----------------------
        All this is good, but will you personally give money to Ukraine for these toys? This will not be more than some single instances ...
        1. Simple
          Simple 18 December 2015 17: 23
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          All this is good, but will you personally give money to Ukraine for these toys?

          - in the article, and in the comments of a certain "Yozhkin Cat" is it really about money?
          I didn’t say anything about money
          -they will be given money by new "brothers"

          -Lithuania will allocate Ukraine money from NATO fund
          / NATO Fund for Ukraine 12 million $ for armored personnel carriers will be enough.
          them what?
          In the Eurozone (and in America) the refinancing rate is 0,25% or - (!) 0,4%.
          How to pay unemployment benefits to their "for so" will help
          1. Altona
            Altona 18 December 2015 17: 38
            0
            Quote: Just
            -Lithuania will allocate Ukraine money from NATO fund
            / NATO Fund for Ukraine 12 million $ for armored personnel carriers will be enough.
            them what?
            In the Eurozone (and in America) the refinancing rate is 0,25% or - (!) 0,4%.
            How to pay unemployment benefits to their "for so" will help

            ----------------------
            They will help, only Senya will steal, and Petsya will drink, and bye-bye, hello rusty hammers. By the way, the money that the Americans give for weapons usually does not leave America, but come in the form of army junk from their own depots.
            1. Simple
              Simple 18 December 2015 18: 19
              0
              Quote: Altona
              They’ll help, only Senya will steal, and Petsya will drink,

              That's right. Besides the above
              President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. The owner of the Roshen chocolate empire, several automobile and bus factories and shipyards has still not sold his business. According to the declaration, the head of state last year only officially earned 369 million UAH. (about 16 million dollars). Most of them are dividends and interest from the business. Poroshenko officially stored last year in banks 452 mln. UAH. (19 million dollars). At the same time, the salary of the president until recently was about 10 thousand UAH. per month.


              there are many:
              Minister of Finance Natalia Yaresko. A citizen of Ukraine, who has not renounced American citizenship, and the former co-founder of Horizon Capital investment company earned 2,05 million dollars last year. 99% of them are abroad. There, in her bank accounts, according to the published declaration, more than two million dollars are stored. In Ukraine, the head of the Ministry of Finance has a family house on 1,29 thousand square meters, an apartment of 120 square. m. and land plots on 10 thousand sq. m. With a salary of 6 thousand UAH, its heating costs at current rates are more than 22 thousand UAH.


              Interior Minister Arsen Avakov. The income of the ex-political emigrant in Italy and the ex-people's deputy last year amounted to only 222 thousand UAH. (less than 100 thousand dollars). However, the Italian business of the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs still continues to bring good profits, which are already being received by family members on whom Arsen Avakov rewrote it. Thus, the family income of the chief policeman of Ukraine in 2014 amounted to one and a half million euros. And the total area of ​​his three apartments in Ukraine is 786 sq.m. Two ministerial salaries are now needed for their heating.

              --------------------------------------------
              But they will not give evidence.
              Czechs will give money, they sell armored personnel carriers.
          2. Felix2
            Felix2 19 December 2015 08: 48
            0
            And who can say what is the price of a watch?
            Vobschem with what to compare?
      2. Felix2
        Felix2 19 December 2015 08: 46
        0
        Yes, the company is not frail.
  13. Tummyr
    Tummyr 18 December 2015 13: 27
    +3
    This is a tough blow to the militia, they are not armed by the standards of "Nata". What will be taken away on that they fight. We'll still have to get ammunition of a different caliber. request
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 18 December 2015 15: 03
      0
      As evacuation vehicles and ammunition delivery will come down.
  14. razved
    razved 18 December 2015 13: 30
    +1
    Czechs - well done. They also actively helped the Germans arm themselves after the Anschluss. And now THIS. Perhaps the Czechs have it in their blood to help the bad guys.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 18 December 2015 13: 32
    +3
    but the memorandum, only intentions, but not yet an agreement, is it worth it to bother prematurely
  16. bad
    bad 18 December 2015 13: 33
    -1
    The Czech company VOP has signed a memorandum of cooperation with Ukroboronprom, within the framework of which it is planned to bring Dozor-B armored personnel carriers in line with NATO standards, the military-industrial complex reports with reference to the deputy director of the Ukrainian concern Arthur Cheruvimov.
    ... tse peremoga! .. yyyyy..schets got involved in the most pampered .. laughing we are waiting for the result of "fruitful cooperation" laughing
  17. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 December 2015 13: 37
    0
    It would be better to help the economy adapt to European standards, since Ukrainians are so eager for the EU. But this others money. Or, at worst, the railroad gauge would be helped to equate to the European one - otherwise how all polls without visa will leave for Europe. laughing
  18. Tjeck
    Tjeck 18 December 2015 13: 43
    -2
    similar to: Sd Kfz 251 model 1939. only simplified laughing I wonder when they will release the praised dung submarines in the form of inverted boats ..
    1. The black
      The black 18 December 2015 13: 49
      +1
      And BTR-40 reminds me smile
    2. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 18 December 2015 14: 31
      +2
      Quote: Tjeck
      similar to: Sd Kfz 251 model 1939. only simplified

      Well, uh ... It's a shame for Hanomag.
  19. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 13: 47
    +1
    Oh, you Czechs ... chased a long penny negative
  20. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 18 December 2015 13: 49
    0
    50 cars, perhaps enough to patrol the border with New Russia
  21. MaxGerb
    MaxGerb 18 December 2015 13: 51
    +2
    in six months, the Czechs will fall off with a statement about the high corruption component of the project.
  22. Nix1986
    Nix1986 18 December 2015 13: 57
    +1
    It is necessary that Klitschko announce this news live. This is precisely in its part, the country can simply freeze out, but the armored cars will be updated in caliber, and this will make it warmer in my soul.
  23. lis-ik
    lis-ik 18 December 2015 14: 05
    +4
    Quote: Gorynovich
    And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

    Of course, I understand that patriotism is an all-encompassing thing, I myself am a patriot, but why in the obviously technical question are silly comments about the pedal drive? Really not funny anymore!
  24. BOB044
    BOB044 18 December 2015 14: 36
    0
    You can't make candy out of shit.
  25. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 18 December 2015 14: 40
    +1
    It seems that quite recently Ukraine called itself one of the strongest military powers on the continent. If one of the strongest is not capable of producing 10 off-road vehicles, then what about the rest?
  26. Peter endo
    Peter endo 18 December 2015 14: 50
    +1
    Will teach armor plates to cook and rearrange the barrels from the old. And then they will try again to sell to the Middle East. Although hardly anyone will buy, they are very much settled with the previous "products".
  27. twincam
    twincam 18 December 2015 14: 55
    0
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Gorynovich
    And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

    Of course, I understand that patriotism is an all-encompassing thing, I myself am a patriot, but why in the obviously technical question are silly comments about the pedal drive? Really not funny anymore!

    agree with you.
    Bydlyatina is everywhere.
  28. Vvp
    Vvp 18 December 2015 15: 10
    +1
    In the wake of the "anti-terrorist operation", every garage in Ukraine now produces armored vehicles without any knowledge or experience. Such "garages" belong to Poroshenko's structures, for example, Bogdan with a Dozor subsidiary, and government members, for example Avakov with his interests in the Varta-2 project, for which there is not even assembly capacity, as well as NPO Praktika with a Kozak-2 machine, where the director is the pretty Borisova Yulia Olegovna;)
    In short, everyone is doing business, a budget is drawn up for it, they are divided between "their own", and at the same time they are selling NATO weapons to militias from Donbas. That's the whole "ATO". This is what Ukraine rests on.
  29. vobels
    vobels 18 December 2015 15: 14
    -1
    This help is a matter of time. Maybe there will be no one to help.
  30. Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 December 2015 15: 40
    0
    Rear-wheel drive NATO is understandable, but what about the Czechs? They would read Y. Gashek and calm dreams would be.
  31. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 18 December 2015 15: 48
    0
    I hope they will work on a prepayment ?? if there isn’t .. the horned artiodactyls ...
  32. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 18 December 2015 16: 03
    -1
    Something all of them, the poor, rushed to help on all counts, regions and points ... Help, in general, assumes that a person does something himself, and at the same time something does not work out for him! .. What did the Ukrainians do over the past 20 years ??? In addition to the fact that absolutely everything inherited from the USSR was destroyed! All applications for help should be read - "we will do it for you!" (A holy place is never empty! You don’t need it !? As you wish! We will "help"!) And then we will wipe your feet on you! Because you are lazy, greedy ... (I will not develop further - I will not break loose!)

    Therefore, we must not underestimate these assistants! They see clearly their definite benefit and follow it! And all these eggheads, except for the words "GIVE", "FAT" and "GLORY TO HEROES" do not know anything! Degradation is progressing !!! The consequences of 20 years of complete idleness! ...
  33. TOR2
    TOR2 18 December 2015 16: 05
    +1
    The Czechs will not do anything for free, and for some the device has already jammed.
  34. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 18 December 2015 16: 34
    +7
    What rejoice, either stupid, or ...
    Yes, for the grandmother the battleship Potemkin can be adjusted to the standards of the Martians. How children rejoice and prepare to 'kickback' to cut
  35. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 18 December 2015 17: 22
    -1
    they work on a fart pair or on bacon
  36. tomcat117
    tomcat117 18 December 2015 19: 43
    0
    Czechs will help Ukrainian defenders bring the Dozor-B BTR to NATO standards ...

    ... they will be assembled from Czech components!
  37. kotvov
    kotvov 19 December 2015 11: 05
    0
    "Dozor" is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality. " ,,
    after the help, they will become the same in price, but the quality, something in doubt.