Czechs will help the Ukrainian defense industry to bring the Dozor-B armored personnel carrier to NATO standards

The Czech company VOP has signed a memorandum of cooperation with Ukroboronprom, under which it is planned to bring the Dozor-B armored personnel carriers in compliance with NATO standards, reports MIC with reference to the deputy director of the Ukrainian concern Artur Cherubimov.

“The essence of the memorandum is that the Czech partners involved in the production of armored vehicles will help to bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to the standards of NATO countries,” Cherubimov said after signing the document.

"This is about the difference in calibers of weapons, radio communications and other nuances in which Ukrainian weapons differ from weapons NATO countries. Also VOP will help in the process of certification of "Dozor" in Europe, "- he explained to journalists.

Cherubimov noted that "Dozor-B" passed state tests and launched a series. “The first contract with the Ministry of Defense has already been signed, and the first batch of Dozorov will go to the troops next spring,” said the deputy director.

The Cherubim did not speak about the number of cars or their value, citing official secrets.

According to him, the modernization of armored vehicles "designed for both the APU and the export market." At the same time, the representative of the concern noted that ““ Dozor ”is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality”.

The production of these armored vehicles is engaged in the Lviv armored plant. They are now making about 10 "Dozor". The plant management promised to increase capacity and to produce 50 machines a month next year.

Comments

[Gorynovich]

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

[Sasha 19871987]

duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing

[cniza]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing

Czechs will be "happy" working with this "product" and of course it will capture the entire market.

[sgazeev]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Sasha 19871987

duck immediately put the cars with machine guns "maxim" into operation, it will be even cheaper than your auto junk will come out laughing

Czechs will be "happy" working with this "product" and of course it will capture the entire market.

Czechs helped Adik, now banderlogs. The end will be one.

[vic58]

Scrap market? Or exotic hearse?

[NIKNN]

“We are talking about the difference in the caliber of weapons, in radio communications and other nuances in which Ukrainian weapons are different from weapons of NATO countries

Well, with the caliber, it’s clear that NATO has overdue ammunition. But to contact anyone according to NATO standards, they have all the Soviet technology (with the exception of junk that they gave them last time)

[vell.65]

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

A simpler horse pedal is used.

[Tor5]

Well, old Egyptian ...

[kayman4]

Quote: Tor5

Well, old Egyptian ...

You look at our armor plates from Kamaz - the same.

[self-propelled]

Quote: Tor5

Well, old Egyptian ...

and what is ancient Egyptian? what outwardly (and as intended) looks like a BA-64? it’s not like Egypt (and not so long ago it was).

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

pretty stupid comment, IMHO.

[self-propelled]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

pretty stupid comment, IMHO.

it’s such a fun - to watch everything made in Ukraine

[Denis Obukhov]

The original design, the dawn of motorism. See, Balaganov, what can be done from a simple Singer sewing machine? A small adaptation - and it turned out a lovely collective farm sheaves.
Ilf and Petrov, "The Golden Calf"

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

LAZ redo

[northern]

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

On Maidan farting pair

[northern]

We have here clearly the developer of "Shame-B" worn out, minus everything. I corrected everyone as I could.

[self-propelled]

about "-" not for me, but still I would like to hear constructive criticism about this machine (preferably in comparison with modern counterparts).

[The black]

... in other words, the Czechs will help Ukraine to cut the budget money allocated for the defense ...

[samoletil18]

Quote: Black

... in other words, the Czechs will help Ukraine to cut the budget money allocated for the defense ...

not a fact: "The Czech company VOP has signed with Ukroboronprom" memorandum about cooperation ".
This is not a contract yet. Although, the way they interpret the Budapest memorandum is overwhelming.

[Barboskin]

Chekhov is sorry ..

[northern]

Not at all. They have a new round of "civilization", in the 20th century the Hitlerite Nazis were helped in the line of arms, in the 21st - by Poroshenko.

[lukke]

what can I say - well done Czechs, chop a chip on the fly). Then, when there will be another government in Ukraine and the contracts will be broken one after another, the Czechs will understand the futility of working with this state, but it will be too late)

[Altona]

Quote: lukke

what can I say - well done Czechs, chopping a chip on the fly)

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The car has long been dubbed "Shame-B" due to a number of design flaws, critical in operation. "Shame" in Czech means "attention, atas, nix" ... That is, even by name, everything will match ..

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Altona

The car has long been dubbed "Shame-B" due to a number of design flaws, critical in operation. "Shame" in Czech means "attention, atas, nix" ... That is, even by name, everything will match ..

As for the translation, you, colleague, are right. "POSOR" in many Eastern European languages ​​is ATTENTION. But I somewhat disagree with your other statements, due to the fact that the Czechs are serious about modernizing, and sometimes even improving, Soviet armored vehicles. For example, the Czechs were the first in the world to be able to place a 122 mm howitzer on a wheeled chassis, and so effectively that such an artillery system, created on the basis of "Carnation", is still actively used in a number of countries. (according to the "National Interest" in 16 countries.)

[Altona]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

that the Czechs are serious about the modernization, and sometimes the improvement of Soviet armored vehicles

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I don't care what the Czechs think about modernization, I just sarcastically and mock the attempts of the Ukrainian defense industry to give birth to something full. Secondly, the Czechs will not modernize for free, and now Ukraine is simply "rich in pennies" that even the debts have ceased to pay off. I doubt that anything worthwhile will be born beyond the conversations. Hence all my sarcasm.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Altona

I don't care what the Czechs think about modernization, I just sarcastically and mock the attempts of the Ukrainian defense industry to give birth to something full. Secondly, the Czechs will not modernize for free, and now Ukraine is simply "rich in pennies" that even the debts have ceased to pay off. I doubt that anything worthwhile will be born beyond the conversations. Hence all my sarcasm.

Eugene, if we discard the whole banter and even that, we have to admit that in some way we will lose the same military orders, because the Czechs, I repeat, have a very serious scientific, technical and industrial base.

[Felix2]

By the way, the Poles bought a license for the production of patrols. German engine, transmission Alison automatic and inside-controlled module, V-shaped bottom, in fact, everything that I know. I personally like the look.

[Saratoga833]

Czechs have never treated Russia well. In all armed conflicts, they have always been on the side of the opponents of Russia. So now with Poland. If she is an opponent of Russia - why not help her? Skins are corrupt. Both those and these!

[Extraneous]

It depends on how you look at it. And who were on the side of the civilian "White Czechs"?

[AdekvatNICK]

century contract. we would have their problems.

[Max otto]

So this is a memorandum, not a contract. In fact, an empty bazaar, like two drunkards in a bar squirming and promising each other anything, in the morning of course no one remembers anything and is not going to do anything.

[Altona]

Quote: Max Otto

So this is a memorandum, not a contract. Essentially an Empty Bazaar

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Here I am about the same. Tomorrow you can sign the same one between Antonov and Boeing, between Motor Sich and Bell, between GM and ZAZ. Maybe even a design layout or a prototype will be born, but it is unlikely that something is serial or massive. Zhytomyr-rock and Chernigov-trash in general so far.

[dchegrinec]

Such "benefactors" will only help poor Ukraine get to hell faster!

[venaya]

modernization of armored personnel carriers "designed for both the Armed Forces and the export market"

What is the essence of this deal? Bring armored personnel carriers to NATO standards? This is why the NATO cartridges should be suitable and there would be no problems with the supply of NATO ammunition in the planned new military operations or something.

[rotmistr60]

Did the Czechs secure themselves about paying for their services?

help bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to NATO standards

With radio communications and caliber for machine guns, it’s clear that there would be money, but you can buy everything. And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: rotmistr60

there would be money, but you can buy everything.

Yes, the problem is that they are not. They will put NATO machine guns without cartridges, ride, guys.

[_my opinion]

Quote: rotmistr60

Did the Czechs secure themselves about paying for their services?

help bring Ukrainian armored vehicles to NATO standards

With radio communications and caliber for machine guns, it’s clear that there would be money, but you can buy everything. And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.

it’s simpler, but they don’t use simple ways, and here it will fall over to the Czechs, and they themselves will live up and cheer the horses (Europe with us)

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: rotmistr60

And the collapse of the wheels, clearance, thickness of the armor will also lead to NATO standards? Easier to buy NATO.

At the same time, the representative of the concern noted that "Dozor" is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality. "

Czech debugging and will erase these "two and a half times". However, one should not forget that NATO also has rogues and beggars - Albania, Greece, + soon Montenegro. Their budgetary conditionally NATO garage will suit, probably.

[YakimovSS]

Does anyone have an understanding of the tactical purpose and army niche of these cars?

[aviator1913]

An analogue of our "Tiger" probably.

[Forest]

No, our Tiger is more of a machine for the quick delivery of people, cartridges, etc., for special forces, intelligence. In general, an armored version of the old UAZ. The watch occupies a niche BRDM, well, with certain weapons modules - BMP.

[Altona]

Quote: YakimovSS

Does anyone have an understanding of the tactical purpose and army niche of these cars?

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The right-wingers blocking transport arteries, relocating troops to protect speaking four-star tunics, raids to rob the local population, intercepting smuggled flows in Mukachevo. The list goes on ...

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Altona

The list goes on ...

and the civil version will be?)))

[Masya masya]

I remembered an old anecdote: "The instructions are clearly written! After assembly, finalize with a file!"

[_my opinion]

According to him, the modernization of armored personnel carriers "is designed for both the Armed Forces and the export market."

export market?

[Jozhkin Cat]

VOP company .... I would not trust a company with that name ....

[Simple]

Quote: Yozhkin Cat

VOP company .... I would not trust a company with that name ...

Yes?
And in vain

Czech state company VOP CZ (before 2012 - VOP 025 (Vojensky opravarensky podnik 025)).

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http://www.vop.cz

T-72M4 CZ

Pandur II 8x8 - CZ

BVP-2 (and 1 too)

Anyway ..
KUB 1S91M1 KUB 2P25M1 9A35M

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[Altona]

Quote: Just

Yes?
And in vain

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All this is good, but will you personally give money to Ukraine for these toys? This will not be more than some single instances ...

[Simple]

Quote: Altona

All this is good, but will you personally give money to Ukraine for these toys?

- in the article, and in the comments of a certain "Yozhkin Cat" is it really about money?
I didn’t say anything about money
-they will be given money by new "brothers"

-Lithuania will allocate Ukraine money from NATO fund
/ NATO Fund for Ukraine 12 million $ for armored personnel carriers will be enough.
them what?
In the Eurozone (and in America) the refinancing rate is 0,25% or - (!) 0,4%.
How to pay unemployment benefits to their "for so" will help

[Altona]

Quote: Just

-Lithuania will allocate Ukraine money from NATO fund
/ NATO Fund for Ukraine 12 million $ for armored personnel carriers will be enough.
them what?
In the Eurozone (and in America) the refinancing rate is 0,25% or - (!) 0,4%.
How to pay unemployment benefits to their "for so" will help

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They will help, only Senya will steal, and Petsya will drink, and bye-bye, hello rusty hammers. By the way, the money that the Americans give for weapons usually does not leave America, but come in the form of army junk from their own depots.

[Simple]

Quote: Altona

They’ll help, only Senya will steal, and Petsya will drink,

That's right. Besides the above
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. The owner of the Roshen chocolate empire, several automobile and bus factories and shipyards has still not sold his business. According to the declaration, the head of state last year only officially earned 369 million UAH. (about 16 million dollars). Most of them are dividends and interest from the business. Poroshenko officially stored last year in banks 452 mln. UAH. (19 million dollars). At the same time, the salary of the president until recently was about 10 thousand UAH. per month.


there are many:
Minister of Finance Natalia Yaresko. A citizen of Ukraine, who has not renounced American citizenship, and the former co-founder of Horizon Capital investment company earned 2,05 million dollars last year. 99% of them are abroad. There, in her bank accounts, according to the published declaration, more than two million dollars are stored. In Ukraine, the head of the Ministry of Finance has a family house on 1,29 thousand square meters, an apartment of 120 square. m. and land plots on 10 thousand sq. m. With a salary of 6 thousand UAH, its heating costs at current rates are more than 22 thousand UAH.


Interior Minister Arsen Avakov. The income of the ex-political emigrant in Italy and the ex-people's deputy last year amounted to only 222 thousand UAH. (less than 100 thousand dollars). However, the Italian business of the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs still continues to bring good profits, which are already being received by family members on whom Arsen Avakov rewrote it. Thus, the family income of the chief policeman of Ukraine in 2014 amounted to one and a half million euros. And the total area of ​​his three apartments in Ukraine is 786 sq.m. Two ministerial salaries are now needed for their heating.

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But they will not give evidence.
Czechs will give money, they sell armored personnel carriers.

[Felix2]

And who can say what is the price of a watch?
Vobschem with what to compare?

[Felix2]

Yes, the company is not frail.

[Tummyr]

This is a tough blow to the militia, they are not armed by the standards of "Nata". What will be taken away on that they fight. We'll still have to get ammunition of a different caliber.

[Vadim237]

As evacuation vehicles and ammunition delivery will come down.

[razved]

Czechs - well done. They also actively helped the Germans arm themselves after the Anschluss. And now THIS. Perhaps the Czechs have it in their blood to help the bad guys.

[Wolka]

but the memorandum, only intentions, but not yet an agreement, is it worth it to bother prematurely

[bad]

The Czech company VOP has signed a memorandum of cooperation with Ukroboronprom, within the framework of which it is planned to bring Dozor-B armored personnel carriers in line with NATO standards, the military-industrial complex reports with reference to the deputy director of the Ukrainian concern Arthur Cheruvimov.

... tse peremoga! .. yyyyy..schets got involved in the most pampered .. we are waiting for the result of "fruitful cooperation"

[Gormenghast]

It would be better to help the economy adapt to European standards, since Ukrainians are so eager for the EU. But this others money. Or, at worst, the railroad gauge would be helped to equate to the European one - otherwise how all polls without visa will leave for Europe.

[Tjeck]

similar to: Sd Kfz 251 model 1939. only simplified I wonder when they will release the praised dung submarines in the form of inverted boats ..

[The black]

And BTR-40 reminds me

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Tjeck

similar to: Sd Kfz 251 model 1939. only simplified

Well, uh ... It's a shame for Hanomag.

[Dr. Bormental]

Oh, you Czechs ... chased a long penny

[avg-mgn]

50 cars, perhaps enough to patrol the border with New Russia

[MaxGerb]

in six months, the Czechs will fall off with a statement about the high corruption component of the project.

[Nix1986]

It is necessary that Klitschko announce this news live. This is precisely in its part, the country can simply freeze out, but the armored cars will be updated in caliber, and this will make it warmer in my soul.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

Of course, I understand that patriotism is an all-encompassing thing, I myself am a patriot, but why in the obviously technical question are silly comments about the pedal drive? Really not funny anymore!

[BOB044]

You can't make candy out of shit.

[Denis Obukhov]

It seems that quite recently Ukraine called itself one of the strongest military powers on the continent. If one of the strongest is not capable of producing 10 off-road vehicles, then what about the rest?

[Peter endo]

Will teach armor plates to cook and rearrange the barrels from the old. And then they will try again to sell to the Middle East. Although hardly anyone will buy, they are very much settled with the previous "products".

[twincam]

Quote: lis-ik

Quote: Gorynovich

And they have horse drawn or pedal driven?

Of course, I understand that patriotism is an all-encompassing thing, I myself am a patriot, but why in the obviously technical question are silly comments about the pedal drive? Really not funny anymore!

agree with you.
Bydlyatina is everywhere.

[Vvp]

In the wake of the "anti-terrorist operation", every garage in Ukraine now produces armored vehicles without any knowledge or experience. Such "garages" belong to Poroshenko's structures, for example, Bogdan with a Dozor subsidiary, and government members, for example Avakov with his interests in the Varta-2 project, for which there is not even assembly capacity, as well as NPO Praktika with a Kozak-2 machine, where the director is the pretty Borisova Yulia Olegovna;)
In short, everyone is doing business, a budget is drawn up for it, they are divided between "their own", and at the same time they are selling NATO weapons to militias from Donbas. That's the whole "ATO". This is what Ukraine rests on.

[vobels]

This help is a matter of time. Maybe there will be no one to help.

[Barakuda]

Rear-wheel drive NATO is understandable, but what about the Czechs? They would read Y. Gashek and calm dreams would be.

[Yak-3P]

I hope they will work on a prepayment ?? if there isn’t .. the horned artiodactyls ...

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

Something all of them, the poor, rushed to help on all counts, regions and points ... Help, in general, assumes that a person does something himself, and at the same time something does not work out for him! .. What did the Ukrainians do over the past 20 years ??? In addition to the fact that absolutely everything inherited from the USSR was destroyed! All applications for help should be read - "we will do it for you!" (A holy place is never empty! You don’t need it !? As you wish! We will "help"!) And then we will wipe your feet on you! Because you are lazy, greedy ... (I will not develop further - I will not break loose!)

Therefore, we must not underestimate these assistants! They see clearly their definite benefit and follow it! And all these eggheads, except for the words "GIVE", "FAT" and "GLORY TO HEROES" do not know anything! Degradation is progressing !!! The consequences of 20 years of complete idleness! ...

[TOR2]

The Czechs will not do anything for free, and for some the device has already jammed.

[Pete mitchell]

What rejoice, either stupid, or ...
Yes, for the grandmother the battleship Potemkin can be adjusted to the standards of the Martians. How children rejoice and prepare to 'kickback' to cut

[wicked pinnochio]

they work on a fart pair or on bacon

[tomcat117]

Czechs will help Ukrainian defenders bring the Dozor-B BTR to NATO standards ...

... they will be assembled from Czech components!

[kotvov]

"Dozor" is 2,5 times cheaper than foreign analogues and is not inferior to them in quality. " ,,
after the help, they will become the same in price, but the quality, something in doubt.