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The end of the global financial system, or the launch pistol has already fired

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The end of the global financial system, or the launch pistol has already fired



Yesterday, for the first time in nine years, the US Federal Reserve Board raised its benchmark interest rate from 0,25% to 0,5%. The world stopped in anticipation of serious market turmoil. Is it worth waiting for them? Indeed, from an absolute point of view, a change in the rate for such a tiny amount is rather insignificant. A business that is robust enough to make a profit can easily handle an extra quarter percent of the cost. Cope with a much greater load. But nothing of the rate of profit in the financial markets at all in this section is ridiculous. The meaning and the true meaning of such a decision by the Fed is absolutely not at stake as such. And not even in the expectation of further rate hikes next year, which may turn out to be much more significant.

Meaning and meaning in a completely different. Base interest rate management is a key element of monetary policy. And monetarism has been the main instrument of state management of the economy almost all over the world for a couple of decades. If you look at the classical theory, then within the framework of monetarism, the state intervenes in the economy only by regulating the money supply. When the economy grows rapidly and is prone to overheating, the rate rises, making credit expensive and slowing down low-profit projects. Growth is slowing, and the threat of crisis is declining. When the economy shows a downturn, the rate drops, increasing the cheap money supply. This should lead to the revival of projects for which the loan was too expensive, and reduce the risks of a general economic downturn. All this together is called monetary countercyclical regulation. But this is a theory. It is worth a closer look at the practice.

The Fed recorded the threat of an economic downturn in 2006, and began a cycle of gradual lowering of interest rates, increasing the money supply. The system did not actually work, and in 2008 we got a rather serious collapse of the markets and a recession in the real economic sector. We speak, of course, about the United States. Surely history crisis in the markets 2008 year can not be attributed only or mainly to the cyclical phenomena in the economy. This is an order of magnitude to a greater extent was the crisis of the derivatives market. Nevertheless, this crisis had a tremendous impact on the real economy, and caused the Fed to naturally desire, by drastically reducing the rate, to prevent a full-fledged economic collapse. I think everyone remembers the phrase of the head of the Fed that if needed, the money will be scattered from helicopters.

A lot of time has passed since that crisis in order to understand that there are practically zero rates in the United States and in Europe that could not have a significant impact on the state of the real economy. Statistical revival seems to be an exceptional game of numbers and for the most part is tied to the virtual sector. Today, more than seven years after the crisis, the world is on the verge of a much more significant economic downturn. It was not by chance that in many countries, talk of the need to introduce generally negative interest rates to save from recession became popular.

This state of affairs suggests that monetarism is no longer an effective lever for regulating real economic activity. Cheap loans and trillion-dollar liquidity injections were used by economic agents around the world for completely new purposes. The existing derivative bubbles were blocked from the explosion, a collective inflating of new bubbles was made, primarily on the stock markets, a significant part of the troubled debts changed the status from private corporate to public. All this suggests that the world is faced with problems of a completely different order than those that until now have been solved by monetary methods. And indeed it is.

Moreover, the main causes of the problem situation of the world economy today are no secret to anyone. And they are as follows:

1. Since the world is a closed economic system, which in recent decades has become truly global, it has its own natural limits of development. And these limits on a huge range of products reached. The economic result is always a balance between supply and effective demand. There are no problems with the proposal. By providing cheap money, the Fed and the EuroCB attempted to increase effective demand by influencing the solvency of those who were to meet this demand. But rested on the fact that there is also physical demand, which in principle can not be so easily affected. Well, a person does not need several cars, refrigerators or sets of furniture. And even the rapidly progressing technological gadgets cannot be changed every month to more advanced ones, since they still could not master all the possibilities of those that already exist. This objectively inhibits the growth of demand as such outside of its value. This is one important factor.

The second is that, no matter how cheap the loan is, it still remains a loan, and it must be repaid, and the loan must be paid, including interest, which only at first glance seem miserable. In fact, real consumer loan rates are at least twice as high as announced. And at a certain point, the share of regular payments on existing loans becomes so high that it becomes impossible to think about new loans.

The third important factor is that, with the absolute growth of the population of the planet at a rapid pace, the objective need for jobs on a global scale decreases. This leads to an objective reduction in labor incomes, which are the main source of global demand.

The fourth important factor is that any new technological breakthrough that creates new jobs and new incomes that are the source of demand in a closed system inevitably causes a fold greater reduction in demand and jobs in obsolete industries and technological production, replaced by new ones. .

Finally, the fifth, perhaps the most important factor, is that the capitalist mode inevitably leads to a constant concentration of capital. First, it is the flow of capital from small businesses to large in all sectors, and then from the real sector of the economy to the financial one. The latter was largely contributed by the separation of money from the real gold base in the 70-s of the last century, which created the possibility of an infinite monetary issue. As a result, the bulk of the money is already concentrated today in the entire 1% of the world population, which in principle does not have demand needs that can sufficiently stimulate the global economy.

2. With the volumes of real demand and real production, rested in the objective limits of the system, any additional cash infusion is not able to revive economic growth, but leads to one of two possible consequences - hyperinflation or inflation of stock bubbles in all markets. In principle, we observe both. Only hyperinflation in our time is carefully hidden in the currency depreciation agreed in all countries, which makes the situation look outwardly stable. And the stock bubbles through the efforts of core and all other media are served in the rainbow tones of progress and prosperity.

In the created conditions there is one significant trend that completely suits the USA as a generator of world money. Since the real economy is stagnating, the real volume demand for resources also stagnates. In addition, hiding hyperinflation in goods of final demand, especially high-tech, is much easier than in basic goods. This inevitably leads to a violation of the ratio of the cost between the raw material and the final product. Commodity prices are rising more slowly or may be falling at all, which we see in the example of oil, while the prices for the final product are constantly increasing. This factor already leads to political problems, since it automatically makes the whole world dependent on the producers of the final redistribution. The owners of most of these products are the United States or European countries. Stock bubbles are also inflating lighter and larger in the largest markets. And those are also located in the United States. But this state of affairs cannot be eternal.

The situation of the accumulation of problem potential must inevitably be resolved either in the form of a tough conflict on a global scale, or the whole world must agree to complete enslavement. The desire to implement the latter option is fortunately not observed. China. Russia and a number of other countries are striving to break out of the vicious circle. One of these ways is to create alternative money that can shift or at least push the dollar on the financial Olympus. But for this new currency should have a fundamental difference from the dollar. In particular, to obtain a real basis in the form of generally accepted values. That could again be gold, oil or something else that has real value and absolute large-scale demand from the world economy. For this purpose, concerted actions are being taken to promote the Chinese yuan worldwide, any really affordable amounts of gold are bought up, alternative financial instruments such as a BRICS or ABII bank are being created.

Since the prospects for future currency confrontation are determined, today the United States is beginning to experience problems with refinancing its national debt. With all that the Fed has absolute freedom in terms of emissions, it alone does not solve the problem in principle. As soon as there is a mismatch in the rates of emission of the United States and other recognized emission centers, an overt hyperinflation effect will immediately appear at the point of maximum emission. To this day, the process is still under control. As a sparring partner for the US dollar alternately acted either the Japanese yen, the euro, or the Swiss franc. And even the recent decision to include the Chinese yuan in the pool of reserve currencies is an event from the same area. It was not by chance that it happened due to the redistribution of shares of all currencies except the dollar itself. Very bad and dangerous, forced for the United States, but the only measure that still allows us to maintain the external stability of the global financial system.

For people far from finance, it is worth explaining another important point. Namely, how the world financial system actually works with the dollar as the only world money. It should be understood that any non-cash dollars are always in the United States in one of the banks. That is, in US dollars, banks act as such super banks for banks as ordinary banks act in relation to their clients. For the US, it doesn’t matter who owns their dollars abroad, China, Russia, Europe or Venezuela. Only one thing is important so that the total amount of dollars abroad does not decrease.

Since the plans of China, Russia and Britain behind China to create alternative money to the dollar are already a kind of open secret, for the United States in full growth has become a problem of ensuring the popularity and strength of the dollar on a global scale. This can be achieved only in one way - the dollar should constantly grow in relation to other currencies of the world, and gold and other capacious real assets, which can form the basis of an alternative currency, remain at the lowest possible price levels. That is, no other way to save their funds, except for investing them in dollars, should not remain in principle.

This is the task that the Fed announced yesterday to raise the base interest rate cycle. This should contribute to the growth of the dollar against other currencies, create a global dollar deficit and ensure the flow of any free cash around the world into dollars. Any financial speculator, any industrial capitalist or a simple private investor should get an understanding that his salvation is in the dollar, and only in him.

The very fact that after a long period the Fed has taken such a step indicates that the final period of the existence of the world financial system in its usual form begins. This move by the Fed will certainly cause, although not immediately, extremely significant problems in external markets for the United States. And first of all in Europe, which for the USA is the largest vassal market. Next year in Europe we will see a lot of interesting events and crises. Including the beginning of the most important of them - the collapse of the debt Euromarket.

We will see an attempt to create an alternative world currency based on the gold provided by the Chinese yuan, or at least the final stage of preparation for such a phenomenon.

The show begins. And no one can relive him in a comfortable chair, watching events from television screens and staying aloof from what is happening. It will be a fascinating sight, albeit a very painful one.
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  1. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 05
    41
    I was born in this circus, I am in this circus and will die, a campaign. At first they took great strides to the bright communist future, now they are the same steps to the capitalist ... but on the way, nobody promised to feed the campaign sad
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 19 December 2015 11: 25
      98
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      I was born in this circus, I am in this circus and will diecampaign. At first, by leaps and bounds they went to a bright communist future, now by the same steps into the capitalist ...

      The difference between "circuses" is that in that circus we didn't give a damn about the Fed base rate - Buckwheat didn’t rise in price from this and milk was bottled in one liter and not 837 milliliters. In THIS circus, the country knew that it was NECESSARY to feed its army, therefore, someone like that, and they fed me and my family along the way. At least while I was on a business trip, I knew that a wife with a higher education did not need to work as a cleaner for a piece of bread. For seven years in THIS circus I saved money for a passbook, and in the eighth year I bought a car (without really denying myself everything else), but I did not spend it in THIS circus today - tomorrow this money will not be enough.

      So the big question is, in which circus are the clowns meaner ...
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 19 December 2015 11: 52
        26
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A

        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental


        garbage men ... the top of this show will be a total reduction in the population and the destruction of the infrastructure of countries and cities ... because only complete destruction can give a revolution to the gradual restoration and demand for working hands ... that is, in a spiral ... laughing hence the conclusion ... repeat the device of the Kalashnikov assault rifle .. because in this show it is better to have AK on hand than popcorn and 3D glasses laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 December 2015 12: 05
          21
          Quote: vorobey
          hence the conclusion ... repeat the device of the Kalashnikov assault rifle..

          M. Kalashnikov - eternal memory, glory and gratitude. We don’t have much and there’s something left that won’t deceive, fail or sell. And the device - but to whom, how ... For everyone, it’s different. For example, for example, even though I haven’t taken my native AKS into my hands for a couple of decades, I don’t need to repeat anything - I’m not repeating how I can breathe or blink my eyes. Itself somehow, organically. And AKC as an extension of the hand. True, sometimes a grandson helps with a cell phone - I have trouble with this Android ... laughing

          It will take someone to explain that there is no need to fight with Russia - and now I will not disgrace myself ... And I’m sure that there are thousands of people like me ...
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 19 December 2015 12: 12
            +6
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            For example, for example, even though I haven’t taken my native AKS into my hands for a couple of decades, I don’t need to repeat anything - I’m not repeating how I can breathe or blink my eyes. Itself somehow, organically. And AKC as an extension of the hand.


            yes ... well, how to transfer from 72 second for old age to 72B3 .. there’s already a peephole as a gunner ... it’s all the same with the hell with the hell out of it; laughing
            1. IS-80
              IS-80 19 December 2015 12: 18
              +6
              Quote: vorobey
              yes ... well, how to transfer from 72 second for old age to 72B3 .. there’s already a peephole as a gunner ... it’s all the same with the hell with the hell out of it;

              Anyway, this electronics will burn after EMF. And the Grandfathers will be direct nailing through the trunk channel in the old fashioned way. In general, the enemy will not pass, Victory will be ours. laughing
            2. wirbeln
              wirbeln 19 December 2015 19: 16
              0
              FORGOTTEN: You can’t - we will teach, if you don’t want to - WE WILL FORCE ...
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 19 December 2015 16: 02
            +7
            He remembered how to assemble and disassemble everything before going to the shooting range, and his hands arrived, they did everything, it seems that the brain didn’t even work, that’s how they taught in the USSR, I don’t know how now.
          3. Maj.
            Maj. 20 December 2015 23: 36
            -1
            there are not thousands, and I’m with you
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 19 December 2015 12: 46
          +6
          Quote: vorobey
          garbage men ... the top of this show will be a total population decline and the destruction of the infrastructure of countries and cities



          Well, after reading the article, I also came to the conclusion that the golden top (billion) has almost brought the world to a large-scale war ... And the wicks are already burned ...
          1. Rus2012
            19 December 2015 14: 05
            +5
            Quote: veksha50
            the golden top (billion) has almost brought the world to a large-scale war ... And the wicks are already burned ...


            In this regard, two interesting points arise:
            1. "golden billion" will gather and will cluster in several secluded places
            2. wars do not always end as programmers planned

            And third, the most interesting thing will start after the "dead hand" is triggered ...
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 19 December 2015 14: 46
              +4
              Quote: Rus2012
              the most interesting thing will start after the "dead hand" is triggered ...



              I think that the missiles of the "Perimeter" system have these places of clustering of the golden billion in the control center ... "The dead hand" is not called this system for nothing ... It really will work when the state, you think, will no longer exist, so think about the future and there will be no one to feel sorry for someone and there is no need ...
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 19 December 2015 15: 02
                +6
                veksha50 (1) SU Today, 14:46 PM ↑ New

                Quote: Rus2012
                the most interesting thing will start after the "dead hand" is triggered ...



                I think that the missiles of the "Perimeter" system have these places of clustering of the golden billion in the control center ... "The dead hand" is not called this system for nothing ... It really will work when the state, you think, will no longer exist, so think about the future and there will be no one to feel sorry for someone and there is no need ...


                Yes, how can I say ... This is provided that a couple of hundred million seats for our compatriots are not reserved in the members of the golden billion request
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 19 December 2015 16: 33
                  +5
                  Quote: NIKNN
                  that a couple hundred million seats for our compatriots are not reserved in the members of the golden billion


                  there are only 140 millions of us ... if there are 6 tickets for me .. and three for resale .... laughing
                  1. Rus2012
                    19 December 2015 20: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: vorobey
                    there are only 140 millions of us ... if there are 6 tickets for me .. and three for resale ....

                    Quote: NIKNN
                    This is provided that a couple of hundred million seats for our compatriots are not reserved in the members of the golden billion

                    ... the thing is that these places are famous.
                    The cost of boxing chairs is also known, they say. And most likely already bought out.
                    And moreover, there are rumors about the mutual non-destruction of such places, "no decapitation" of states and world corporations.

                    But ... who will take the word?
                    And among the officers there are many people with honor and conscience ...
                    1. NIKNN
                      NIKNN 19 December 2015 21: 46
                      +3
                      Rus2012 (2) RU Today, 20:02

                      And among the officers there are many people with honor and conscience ...


                      No doubt! But the higher (we don’t like someone who will kick the one who poops and get him to the top (such as a golden billion turns out)) the ... But I’m not talking about this, but that all hope for (there are a lot of officers with honor and conscience) we guys hope as in battle for yourself and the one you believe hi
            2. jPilot
              jPilot 20 December 2015 07: 36
              +1
              It is for them she is a "dead hand" and we call it the "Dome" system. But I hope it will not reach it, I would still like to hoist a flag over the "White House" and bomb the Pentagon repeat
              A crisis !? Yes, do not care about the crisis, let us break through, our country is at all times an almost continuous crisis. BUT LIVING, LIVE AND WE WILL LIVE. To all enemies of evil hi And we will not give an inch of our land to anyone
          2. wirbeln
            wirbeln 19 December 2015 19: 18
            -2
            Are you sure ....
        3. tokens2
          tokens2 19 December 2015 12: 47
          +2
          because in this show it is better to have AK on hand than popcorn and 3D glasses

          probably you live outside the epicenter. explosion.
          here not AK will win. Stupidly carcass.
          The main thing is to start eating a carrot with buckwheat, to prepare the body. lol
          And the living will envy the dead ...
          I’ll go chtol a movie in 3d to see.
        4. 2s1122
          2s1122 19 December 2015 13: 20
          +7
          The fact is that not everyone has AK, and the rampant bezpredelschikov will be worse than "Mad Max" am
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 19 December 2015 16: 41
            +3
            Quote: 2s1122
            The fact is that not everyone has AK, and the rampant bezpredelschikov will be worse than "Mad Max" am


            first there was a bow and arrows ... knowing the origins, you can turn the bow into AK laughing
            1. mav1971
              mav1971 19 December 2015 22: 06
              0
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: 2s1122
              The fact is that not everyone has AK, and the rampant bezpredelschikov will be worse than "Mad Max" am


              first there was a bow and arrows ... knowing the origins, you can turn the bow into AK laughing


              First turn obscure dirt into ore, then a hole into a blast furnace ...
              and so on ....
              :)
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 19 December 2015 22: 47
                +2
                Quote: mav1971
                First turn obscure dirt into ore, then a hole into a blast furnace ...
                and so on ....


                why complicate things like this ... wink
        5. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 19 December 2015 22: 17
          0
          RPG 7! The rate of fire, of course, is smaller, but the lighting and noise effects are larger and the performance is decent. laughing
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        7. Wooster
          Wooster 20 December 2015 02: 10
          0
          laughing yeah, and for training on google play, we download igrulins for android, in which Kalash, SVD, etc. are sorted and assembled for a while. wassat
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 19 December 2015 12: 37
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        In THAT circus I spent seven years saving money for a passbook, and in the eighth year I bought a car (not really denying myself everything else), and in THIS circus

        -And in this circus of cars there are so many that traffic jams and the road cannot be crossed! smile
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 19 December 2015 12: 43
          +2
          Quote: Bayonet
          -And in this circus of cars there are so many that traffic jams and the road cannot be crossed!

          And also in the USSR, these of your iPhones and androedes were not.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 19 December 2015 14: 23
            0
            Quote: IS-80
            And also in the USSR, these of your iPhones and androedes were not.

            It's right! If you urgently need to call, you run over until you find a payphone, and even work so that the phone is not communicated! smile
            1. IS-80
              IS-80 19 December 2015 14: 33
              -1
              Quote: Bayonet
              It's right! If you urgently need to call, you run over until you find a payphone, and even work so that the phone is not communicated!

              And now you will not find them at all during the day with fire. Horror. Survived called. smile
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 19 December 2015 17: 28
                +4
                Quote: IS-80
                Quote: Bayonet
                It's right! If you urgently need to call, you run over until you find a payphone, and even work so that the phone is not communicated!

                And now you will not find them at all during the day with fire. Horror. Survived called. smile


                now everyone has a payphone on them ... laughing probably nakomunizdili in due time .. laughing
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 19 December 2015 22: 20
            0
            And there were no iPhones all over the world in those days ... and not only them!
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 December 2015 13: 42
          10
          Quote: Bayonet
          And in this circus of cars there are so many that traffic jams and the road cannot be crossed!

          In THIS circus, the trouble is not even in the number of cars. And the fact that a sheep sits at the wheel every time, imagining himself the director of a meat-packing plant - no less! Neither to concede, nor to miss, nor elementary politeness, nor respect for traffic rules ... Everyone, damn it, is exclusively individual ... But they say now that collectivism was bad in that circus ... Bad or good, but people knew that they are surrounded by people like them. Hence, the percentage of boors on the roads was many times less, and the culture, courtesy and mutual assistance - more. Who at least 30-40 years ago thought of starting a fight at the entrance to the parking lot?

          However, these categories are not economic, which means, from the point of view of today's market ideologists, useless ...
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 19 December 2015 19: 38
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            the percentage of boors on the roads was many times less, and the culture, politeness and mutual assistance - more.

            Yes, yes! If you’re standing (the hood is pulled up or you’re messing with the wheel), someone will be sure to stop, ask what the problem is, help. But this, unfortunately, was a very long time ago.
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Who at least 30-40 years ago thought of starting a fight at the entrance to the parking lot?

            There were no such problems, as well as so many cars. smile
      3. dauria
        dauria 19 December 2015 13: 10
        +9
        - Buckwheat didn’t rise in price from this and milk was bottled in one liter and not 837 milliliters.


        You definitely + smile Only milk bottles were mostly 0.5 L each (iron boxes under liter were rare). But buckwheat, although it did not go up in price (and was tired of the army), but the reworker from the factory always bought it for her in Transbaikalia and pinned it in Grodno. In one, you are right - the ruble set aside by the old woman for the funeral in 1970, in 1980, cost the same. soldier
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 December 2015 13: 27
          12
          Quote: dauria
          Only milk bottles were mostly 0.5 L each.

          0,5 was kefir and fermented baked milk. And milk is a liter. And most importantly - Ivan said here that "they did not promise to feed on the way." So the army, at least, was fed. That is why they were not afraid of anyone. They did not curry favor with the "partners", but you have to beat - so beat! And no matter what efforts it cost the Ministry of Finance and the State Planning Commission, people did not feel any Western "crises" and "depressions." Just think - in 2008, the whole world got up because of what? Due to the fact that in America several mortgage companies went bankrupt. Just ... What would we say to that in '75? At best, they didn't notice. Otherwise they would have laughed ...
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 19 December 2015 16: 59
            +4
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            0,5 was kefir and fermented baked milk. And milk is a liter


            no need la la ... milk was in bottles of 0,5 and 1 liter and in triangular packets of 0,5

            kefir was only about 5, like cream

            I have the most vivid childhood memories related to my grandfather when I was left with my grandfather and grandmother it was up to 5 years old .. I remember his stories about the war (since he had his awards hanging on the carpet over the bed and naturally constantly tortured his grandfather and this is what and why and why) and how he ran every morning with sunrise in a glass for milk, sour cream and curd cheese for his grandson .. wink my grandfather adored me, however it was mutual ..
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            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 20 December 2015 07: 56
              +3
              Quote: vorobey
              no need la la ... milk was in bottles of 0,5 and 1 liter and in triangular packets of 0,5

              Right. And in the early 60s, there was cream in glass bottles, only small 0.25 liters. And all this was carried in rather heavy iron boxes. One container weighed as much as the product! hi
              (cry)
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 20 December 2015 10: 18
                +4
                Quote: Bayonet
                And all this was carried in rather heavy iron boxes. One container weighed as much as the product!


                I remember, I remember ... when my mother was left alone, she worked as a receptionist at a nearby food factory ... they brought milk around one in the morning because the older one was taking these boxes and cans of sour cream ... laughing
            3. pv1005
              pv1005 20 December 2015 08: 15
              0
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              0,5 was kefir and fermented baked milk. And milk is a liter


              no need la la ... milk was in bottles of 0,5 and 1 liter and in triangular packets of 0,5

              kefir was only about 5, like cream


              And also, milk was poured into cans and poletilenovy bags. And adult uncles went for a beer with 3 liter cans, cans and the same poletilenovy packages. smile
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 20 December 2015 10: 31
                0
                Quote: pv1005
                And adult uncles went for a beer with 3 liter cans, cans and the same poletilenovy packages.

                Well, yes, a three-liter balloon bag and go looking! Plastic bags (2! One to one, otherwise God forbid tearing smile ) This is when the situation is hopeless. By the way, I saw once, a man was driving past a beer stall and taking beer in a tank from the washer! Goal for fiction is cunning!smile
      4. Rus2012
        19 December 2015 13: 51
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        So the big question is, in which circus are the clowns meaner ...

        ...that's for sure!
        Plus, even the latest notorious villain of the Soviets is just a small naive child compared to the modern aligarch. Both in terms of harmfulness and damage to the country ...
      5. user
        user 19 December 2015 20: 52
        +2
        In THIS circus, the country knew that it was NECESSARY to feed its army, therefore, someone like that, and they fed me and my family along the way.


        In this you are right and I support these statements 100% (by the way, there is no policy in this, only the truth of life).
      6. Wooster
        Wooster 20 December 2015 02: 08
        0
        I fully support !!!!!!
    2. Chiropractor
      Chiropractor 19 December 2015 11: 31
      13
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      on the way, nobody promised to feed the campaign



      what a fresh joke .....

      Everything goes the way it should go, it was clear to any economists.
      Us 1970 carries the river. Economic. Different states are rafts on the river. The economic authorities in the countries are steering. Business rowers.
      The helmsmen can these rafts with the help of rowers to the right and left, but do not jump out of the channel!
      And ahead - yes, a cliff!

      China strives closer to the coast so that the current is not so strong.
      The United States kicks in line with others with a kick, smaller, but bigger.
      Russia is looking for its mythical "safe haven", ignoring the presence of alien rowers and helmsmen (all flags are on a visit to us (s)), who row where other rafts need ...
      At the same time, the captain can command anything, but the helmsmen perform their tasks, ignoring the "May decrees", and the rowers are forced to row where the helmsman directs ...
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 19 December 2015 12: 07
        0
        Quote: Kostoprav
        And ahead - yes, a cliff!

        A cliff, and not war? It’s just that I will have enough money only for food and a communal apartment, but I’m not very ready for 3 world ...
    3. Sharapov
      Sharapov 19 December 2015 11: 56
      +5
      There were also dissatisfied with the authorities during the construction of socialism, and there are many of them now (those who are not at the feeding trough). These pseudoscientific forecasts are puzzled - it seems that they only distract from reality ... And the reality is that any business of the middle hand and above we conduct all business through offshore, with all the consequences. And, like, the authorities talk about it with indignation, but they don’t want to stop it.
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 19 December 2015 12: 20
        11
        Quote: Sharapov
        Dissatisfied with the authorities were during the construction of socialism.

        Dissatisfied, of course, were. Because the state is obliged to react to changes, but when a deeply sick person rules the country, anarchy sets in and the state also becomes sick. The country needed changes, so the reform slogan was enthusiastically accepted by the people. But instead of reformers, the country received traitors who acted on the orders of the CIA and ruined the country, instead of introducing changes.
        The current dissatisfaction is of a different nature, during the USSR people wanted to live better, and now people do not know how to survive at all. As they say, feel the difference.
        1. epsilon571
          epsilon571 19 December 2015 13: 42
          +5
          olimpiada15 RU Today, 12:20
          The current dissatisfaction is of a different nature, during the USSR people wanted to live better, and now people do not know how to survive at all. As they say, feel the difference.

          That you just noticed. But in principle, what was Socialism so bad about? It was enough to return to the NEP, and the majority of the population would not have noticed any difference, rather, on the contrary, it would have felt more confident. Today we are witnessing something similar in China, in this Country the government turned out to be far-sighted, and the result is in person. All our troubles are from the authorities, apparently such karma - a lot of resources, but no head!
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 December 2015 16: 23
      0
      In Russia, there has actually been a decoupling from the dollar, so our market is floating out of the dollar. China is also moving away from pegging to the dollar.
      Moreover, the ruble has reserves to strengthen against the dollar, and not to weaken.
      So I think that in April Russia and China will start the game to increase the ruble of the yuan of gold oil. And the United States will not be able to withstand it; physically, this is all outside the control of the United States. Up to a halt in oil exports from Russia (at least for dollars, or maybe temporarily completely). You can bury a dollar in three months.
      1. S_last
        S_last 19 December 2015 19: 12
        0
        Story. In the meantime, exports are increasing.
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    6. fif21
      fif21 19 December 2015 16: 38
      +2
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      but on the way, nobody promised to feed the campaign
      That there would be one rich, 100 people should be poor. That is, one person must, by legal or illegal methods, take from a hundred their acquired labor and then. Mattresses have succeeded in this, their paper with the presidents is the most expensive product in the world. Who does not use their paper is the enemy to be destroyed. Russia (and any other country) will be able to get out of this system only if it exports its goods for rubles (its money) !!!! RD-180 for mattresses for rubles, this will be cool.
      Where will they get rubles? ”“ Their problem, let them buy it on the MICEX, and so on all exports, and I am sure that different colored pieces of paper in Russia will be enough and they will cost cheaply. And if we still export products instead of raw materials and invest not in a foreign economy, but in our own, Arab sheikhs will come to Russia to earn money. There are steps in this direction, but so timid, cautious that I’m afraid for another 100 years the rate of the US Federal Reserve will be important for our economists.
  2. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 19 December 2015 11: 09
    29
    And no one can survive it in a comfortable chair, watching events from TV screens and staying away from what is happening. It will be a fascinating sight, albeit very painful

    heh he scare you Muscovites .... wassat And we are preparing for war in the provinces (just kidding). We saw all these courses and actions in one place! hi
    1. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 19 December 2015 11: 14
      14
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      And we are preparing for war in the province (joke)

      In every joke there is only a fraction of the joke. soldier
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 19 December 2015 11: 40
        +6
        Joking as a joke, and buy 10-15 kg of buckwheat, pasta, etc. not prevent. laughing
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 50
          +7
          Do not buy a lot, the main thing! In that year, my parents, pensioners, succumbed to panic, bought flour, buckwheat, etc., and then took all this stuff to the trash, because there a new life started .... still suffering from obscure monsters flying around the apartment laughing
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 19 December 2015 12: 05
            +5
            flour does not lie for a long time, but you can fry buckwheat. We are experienced from the 90s. laughing
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        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 19 December 2015 19: 42
          0
          Quote: kapitan92
          Joking as a joke, and buy 10-15 kg of buckwheat, pasta, etc. not prevent.

          And then, when the bugs start up in it, throw it away smile My maman (86 years old) does it.
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 19 December 2015 20: 32
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            And then, when the bugs start up in it, throw it away. My maman (86 years old) does it.

            Jokes are jokes. But in the light of what is happening in the world, I recall the hungry war and post-war time in the USSR and it all looks not so funny anymore. And if you recall the fate of besieged Leningrad, it’s completely sad. If people had these 10-15 kg of buckwheat, the victims of starvation would probably be an order of magnitude less.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 19 December 2015 11: 32
      10
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      We saw all these courses and promotions. , at one place!

      Well, why? For example, I am very interested in the course of buckwheat and sugar in the local market. As well as quotes of milk and beef .... laughing And in the summer at the cottage with a neighbor, to corporatize a bottle of cognac is generally a holy thing! So we are all here in business, even in the provinces.

      Although I agree on the main point - that someone will bring me something in a string bag for free - I do not hope since I stopped believing in Santa Claus. And most - "as you sink, you burst" - but what difference does it make to me how much the Fed's base rate, the price of oil, the dollar rate and the quotes of Gazprom shares are? We survived the Gaidar regime in the 90s - and now we will not bend ...
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 12: 09
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        We survived the Gaidar region in the 90s - and now we won’t bend ...

        Do not bend of course, but I would not want to go back to those years .. I remember them well ..
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    3. Tusv
      Tusv 19 December 2015 11: 49
      +2
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      hehe he scare you Muscovites

      You offend one thing :( In non-rubber, not only gastrobayters live.
      And so on the article. I'll try to be an American.
      Russians and Chinese at the end of the abarzeli. They stopped investing in our economy - the return on investment from them is minus 10 cents. With this you need to do something !!! Oil is dropped, we are at war with the whole world. Where is the money zing? Nada urgent to raise the bid
    4. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 19 December 2015 12: 17
      +1
      well, yes, but the president said that we had already climbed the peak belay now we are sitting and thinking whether to sit upstairs or to go downstairs to the bottom. How to bask - hope! die last! .. after or with the one who hoped drinks
      1. cap
        cap 19 December 2015 14: 25
        +1
        Quote: Yuyuka
        well, yes, but the president said that we had already climbed the peak belay now we are sitting and thinking whether to sit upstairs or to go downstairs to the bottom. How to bask - hope! die last! .. after or with the one who hoped drinks


        Better still upstairs
        "The Ministry of Energy proposes to introduce the so-called subscription fee for the use of electricity networks," Deputy Head of the Russian Ministry of Energy Vyacheslav Kravchenko told a press conference in the media center of Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

        The draft government decree is currently undergoing public discussion, he recalled.

        This will be a fixed payment for the maintenance of electric networks as part of the total payment for light.
        Quote
        This is not a new idea. This payment has been valid for many years in many European countries. Regardless of how much a person pays for the light, he pays for network maintenance
        Vyacheslav Kravchenko, Deputy Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation

        Why is this needed? According to Vyacheslav Kravchenko, this solves the big problem of empty houses and apartments in Russia. “Nobody uses electricity there, and the breakage of the power line still needs to be eliminated,” he said. “This is true for country houses, for example.”
        read also
        Housing issue: who in Russia does not pay for heat

        The same is true with empty apartments that are bought for investment purposes. Nobody lives there either, but the networks are functioning. Resource providers, spending money on connecting networks and maintaining them in good condition, are faced with the problem of compensating their expenses. As a result, additional financial burden falls on consumers who constantly live in their apartments and houses, consume electricity and pay bills.
        "And after the introduction of the subscription fee, the power grids will receive an additional 240 million rubles a month," the deputy minister estimated the effect.

        In addition to the introduction of a subscription fee, the Ministry of Energy also proposes to introduce a differentiated tariff for the population from July 1, 2016. "
        Is this our man?
        How does the instruction read it? We do not need enemies. We will finish our own. hi
    5. Kelwin
      Kelwin 19 December 2015 12: 30
      +1
      Comrade Mikhalych, well, why all under one comb, in Moscow, not all _ morons ...
      Then we will neigh in the trench.
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    7. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 19 December 2015 13: 45
      +1
      Because the plans of China, Russia and Britain behind China

      And this is not a typo of the author? It's hard to believe.
  3. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 15
    19
    We, in St. Petersburg, at the exits from the metro again grandmothers-grandfathers appeared. They sell all kinds of homemade pickles, flowers ... They are being chased by the police, they will run away to the side, the patrol will pass, they will return to their place again. Like in the 90s .. A bad prognostic sign is ...
    1. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 19 December 2015 11: 19
      +6
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      We, in St. Petersburg, at the exits from the metro again grandmothers-grandfathers appeared.

      They never disappeared.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 22
        +4
        Well, maybe 1-2 stood, but for example on Lomonosovskaya and Dybenko it now already resembles a spontaneous market.
        1. fif21
          fif21 19 December 2015 15: 13
          +3
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          but for example, on Lomonosovskaya and Dybenko it now already reminds the spontaneous market.
          And where do they go? Markets are under crime, not under the state.
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      2. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 22
        0
        Well, maybe 1-2 stood, but for example on Lomonosovskaya and Dybenko it now already resembles a spontaneous market.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 19 December 2015 11: 25
          +2
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          Well, maybe 1-2 stood, but for example on Lomonosovskaya and Dybenko it now already resembles a spontaneous market.

          Yes, you leave Dybenko from the subway and hello to the 90s - also from drawers and newspapers ..
        2. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 19 December 2015 13: 03
          10
          Grandmothers from the subway never disappeared. I work at Kirovsky. So I saw it near the metro and see them all the time. And in the summer I often buy flowers for my wife from these grandmothers. The real ones smell, not like the Dutch odorless wax. Yes, and grandmothers are pleased.
          Somehow I joked with one - she asks for a bunch of 200 rubles, and I ask - but will you give for 1000? I don’t even understand - no, she says, don’t offend me, don’t bargain. I gave her a thousand. Well, I say, let's not bargain. My grandmother even got wet eyes.
          Heroic generation. What they didn’t have to go through, what promises they didn’t feed. Yes, it was not easy then. But they worked for a brighter future for all of us. The future has come ...
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 16: 03
            +3
            Because you and the officer ... hi
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      3. apro
        apro 19 December 2015 11: 26
        +4
        Today I noticed two new ones appeared near the string bag, but there was one permanent one, so the process went on, don’t wait for work at work this year, they don’t promise anything from their beloved woman at school until February. Koshmar.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 11: 56
          +5
          Likewise! I work as a doctor in the military health care system - all bonuses were minimized, "don't expect anything to increase the salary," they said. About the 13th salary they are generally silent and avert their eyes ... eh ..
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 19 December 2015 12: 09
            +3
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            Likewise! I work as a doctor in the military health care system - all bonuses were minimized, "don't expect anything to increase the salary," they said. About the 13th salary they are generally silent and avert their eyes ... eh ..

            Why do you need it with such a number? Management cares about your happiness and therefore saved you in a timely manner. And then you never know what.
            1. Dr. Bormental
              Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 12: 13
              +5
              Let then the 14th, I do not mind tongue
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            3. cap
              cap 19 December 2015 16: 23
              +3
              Quote: IS-80
              Quote: Dr. Bormental
              Likewise! I work as a doctor in the military health care system - all bonuses were minimized, "don't expect anything to increase the salary," they said. About the 13th salary they are generally silent and avert their eyes ... eh ..

              Why do you need it with such a number? Management cares about your happiness and therefore saved you in a timely manner. And then you never know what.

              Officials estimate that 650 rubles will be enough for the electorate to celebrate the New Year
              The consumer market department of the regional administration claims that the New Year’s menu for residents of Lipetsk can cost 651 rubles 55 kopecks per person. And if you do not save (that is, do not run around the shops in search of the cheapest), then - 921 rubles. The officials made this conclusion, ostensibly carefully examining the prices in the city’s stores. True, they themselves made a reservation: expenses are shown without meat and the traditional Olivier salad, and even without ... bread. What then enters the menu? One bottle of domestic champagne, a pound of chocolates, a kilogram of tangerines, a can of caviar (squash?). And a whole kilogram of chicken!
              Then, gentlemen, national servants, celebrate the holiday without a Christmas tree, gifts and go to bed at nine in the evening. So you yourself live like that!
              http://gorod48.ru/
              No comment. hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 19 December 2015 16: 26
                +5
                Quote: cap
                True, they themselves made a reservation: expenses are shown without meat and the traditional Olivier salad, and even without ... bread

                generally fucked, what would they have met NG without bread and Olivier.
                1. IS-80
                  IS-80 19 December 2015 16: 37
                  0
                  atalef waiting for detailed criticism of the article from you. hi
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 19 December 2015 21: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: IS-80
                    atalef waiting for detailed criticism of the article from you

                    After reading the first paragraph
                    For the first time in nine years, the US Federal Reserve raised its base interest rate from 0,25% to 0,5%. The world froze in anticipation of serious market turmoil. Is it worth the wait? Indeed, from an absolute point of view, changing the rate by such a meager amount is rather insignificant

                    Got it - there’s nothing to read the article.
                    Changes in the Fed rate (which was expected a lot of time) - TALKS ONLY ONE - America has come out of the crisis.
                    A change in rate is a change in trend and speaks only about one thing - the American economy is able to cope with problems without the availability of cheap money.
                    Effects ? It is clear from emerging markets (including Russia) that the grandmother will explode in the United States.
                    All.
                    1. IS-80
                      IS-80 19 December 2015 21: 27
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      Changes in the Fed rate (which was expected a lot of time) - TALKS ONLY ONE - America has come out of the crisis.

                      Eeeee, I read somewhere on the Internet about the decline in the number of middle class in the United States. How does this relate to the fact that the crisis is over?
                      Quote: atalef
                      Effects ? It is clear from emerging markets (including Russia) that the grandmother will explode in the United States.
                      All.

                      Hmmm, a bad trend.
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 19 December 2015 23: 47
                        0
                        Quote: IS-80
                        Quote: atalef
                        Changes in the Fed rate (which was expected a lot of time) - TALKS ONLY ONE - America has come out of the crisis.

                        Eeeee, I read somewhere on the Internet about the decline in the number of middle class in the United States. How does this relate to the fact that the crisis is over?
                        .

                        Very simple, the lowest temperature, before sunrise
                      2. IS-80
                        IS-80 20 December 2015 00: 26
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        Very simple, the lowest temperature, before sunrise

                        Or when the patient is already one. smile
                  2. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 20 December 2015 03: 34
                    0
                    Atalef

                    Cargo transportation did not grow.
                    No growth.
                    1. IS-80
                      IS-80 20 December 2015 12: 09
                      0
                      Quote: gladcu2
                      Cargo transportation did not grow.
                      No growth.

                      By the way, yes, and that too.
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 19 December 2015 12: 11
          +3
          And you take an interest in the salary of the head physician, or whoever you have there. At the end of 2014, we did the roofing in one medical institution, the main one is driving around on the newest Grand Cherokee.
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 12: 14
            +2
            My own horse is in the stable. Bought for a child.
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  4. Tusv
    Tusv 19 December 2015 11: 53
    +2
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    We, in St. Petersburg, at the exits from the metro again grandmothers-grandfathers appeared.

    If grandmothers and grandfathers appeared in the First Throne near the metro, then today it’s warm. Such a sign
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 19 December 2015 13: 08
      0
      If grandmothers and grandfathers appeared in the First Throne near the metro, then today it’s warm. Such a sign

      But I’m talking about signs ... Over the past two years, a boom in stoves, potbelly stoves - our market is littered with all sorts of options - from the simplest, garage, to the tricked out price of 50 and above. So is it cheaper firewood here or people began to live better - bought garages? And there are a lot of magnets of all sizes and grades - is it our people who are engaged in self-education and conduct experiments in physics? repeat
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 19 December 2015 19: 54
        0
        Quote: Yuyuka
        And there are a lot of magnets of all sizes and grades - is it our people who are engaged in self-education and conduct experiments in physics?

        Well, yes, "experiments" how to brake water and gas meters using neodymium magnets!
        The entire Internet is clogged with advertising!
  5. dauria
    dauria 19 December 2015 13: 33
    +1
    Like in the 90s .. A bad prognostic sign is ...


    Since the 90s, I know one diagnostic sign - pigeons disappear from the garbage (old women stop feeding) smile He looked now, everything is fine, fat creatures ....
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 19 December 2015 13: 45
      +1
      pigeons disappear from the garbage (old women stop feeding)
      I remember somehow wrong. They, at that time, were simply eaten, not grandmothers, they were not fed. Ah, that being fatty, oh well. good laughing
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 16: 06
      0
      Well, you still remember cats with Sobakevichs ... laughing hi
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 20 December 2015 08: 05
        0
        Ett-oh, our strategic stock. Nobody tested the fatness of dog brevich? wassat hi
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 20 December 2015 03: 37
      0
      dauria

      Make sure once again, wash the car. :)
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 19 December 2015 11: 17
    +4
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    And no one can survive it in a comfortable chair, watching events from TV screens and staying away from what is happening. It will be a fascinating sight, albeit very painful

    heh he scare you Muscovites .... wassat And we are preparing for war in the provinces (just kidding). We saw all these courses and actions in one place! hi

    Do not tell everyone, Mikhalych. Even in the provinces already capitalism)). Yes, there are poor people who have always lived poorly and will live like this when the whole world will rapidly develop.
    Not a single village will leave the modern world order.
    At the stock exchange, grain rises in price - bread, flour, cereals rise in price.
    Metal rises in price - to change a roof too becomes more expensive, and so on.
    And the fact that preparing for war is right. I also prepared my equipment. We are waiting, from the order of the commander in chief ...
    1. Byshido_dis
      Byshido_dis 19 December 2015 11: 24
      +3
      Is metal more expensive? It is slowly falling, like all types of resources, along with oil ... Compare the cost of metals 10 years ago and now ...
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 19 December 2015 11: 50
        +3
        Do not look in the morning RTR and NTV Danil will have indigestion !!! It’s better to get to any gas station (gas station), and to wholesalers who sell metal, then maybe you’ll stop writing any nonsense. Ten years ago, the cost of fuels and lubricants and metal allowed my family to build a house on one salary (during these 10 years it only decreased by almost a third) to go on vacation across the country to relatives by car. Now we don’t even dream about it.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 19 December 2015 12: 59
        +3
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        Is metal more expensive? It is slowly falling, like all types of resources, along with oil ... Compare the cost of metals 10 years ago and now ...

        The intention, however, is)))
        According to the design of the mattresses, the only value in the world was to be the dollar, and everything else was just a product that can be bought for a dollar. By making cut paper, the mattresses bought quite valuable tangible assets, for the extraction and production of which the real labor and real resources of the world were expended, which mattresses were very comfortable with, but ceased to be comfortable with the world and little by little, the role of the dollar in international payments began to decline. last 2 years by 15%.
        Now the dollar will jump to CSO-GO, which will complicate the already difficult economic situation and it can be assumed that part of the trade transactions will go into barter, or, instead of using mattress paper, a certain conditional "standard" will be stipulated, for example, 0,5 or 1,5 , XNUMX grams of gold per barrel of oil, which will allow using any currency in calculations, depending on the country's gold reserves.
        While mattresses play on lowering gold, convincing the whole world that it is just a commodity, China-India-Russia are increasing the amount of this metal in their gold reserves, reducing the amount of dollars in them. After all, it is clear that it is better to have an extra ton of gold than an extra ton of cut green paper. We recently bought immediately 12 tons, bringing the stock to almost 1370 tons.
        And let the mattresses further reduce the price for it, we will buy it, it will not be superfluous, especially in a crisis.
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 19 December 2015 11: 31
      +2
      Quote: chikenous59
      Do not tell everyone, Mikhalych. Even in the provinces already capitalism)). Yes, there are poor people who have always lived poorly and will live like this when the whole world will rapidly develop.

      I wish I could send you, but you can't ... In the provinces, you say "capitalism" ... Yes, they survive, just by swearing! We'll give you a pancake "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington! Then there are 100-story mats ... angry drinks
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 19 December 2015 12: 23
        +3
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Quote: chikenous59
        Do not tell everyone, Mikhalych. Even in the provinces already capitalism)). Yes, there are poor people who have always lived poorly and will live like this when the whole world will rapidly develop.

        I wish I could send you, but you can't ... In the provinces, you say "capitalism" ... Yes, they survive, just by swearing! We'll give you a pancake "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington! Then there are 100-story mats ... angry drinks

        In America, cognac and foie gras will rise in price, the crisis, In Moscow, there will be an inconvenience, but in Saratov they will not even notice !!!
        Comrades, do not forget the crisis in the West and in Russia it is TWO BIG DIFFERENCES. That Yusovets death is a Russian ordinary day ...
        1. dauria
          dauria 19 December 2015 14: 30
          +2
          , In Moscow, there will be an inconvenience, but in Saratov they will not notice !!!


          Will they not notice in Saratov if there is no work? Well, well .... Muscovites have grown wiser ... Mikhalych, I join the mats. angry
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 19 December 2015 12: 47
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        I should send you, but you can't ... In the provinces, say "capitalism" ... Yes, they survive, just swearing! We'll give you a damn "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington!

        And what is the problem of building Russian capitalism in Washington?
        Mat is a terrible force, albeit not censored
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 19 December 2015 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        We'll give you a pancake "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington!



        !!! Stormy applause !!! hi drinks
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 19 December 2015 13: 16
          +1
          Quote: veksha50
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          We'll give you a pancake "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington!



          !!! Stormy applause !!! hi drinks

          And that normally spoke out ..! hi
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 19 December 2015 11: 18
    +4
    I would not call it the end)) ... it is rather an update ... the formation of a new image of the global financial system ... connecting a strengthened China ... the formation of a world currency based on several currencies and a gold equivalent.
  • Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 19 December 2015 11: 19
    10
    You need to produce everything you need in your country, then you won’t have to hold your breath with your fingers crossed, wait like heaven’s manna, for a minimum rate increase in a foreign country, and after that an increase in the cost of loans, for which you urgently need to buy everything that is not produced in our country and having increased oil and gas production, to give it away to the same countries for the dare, in the hope of covering loans taken from them for the proceeds.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 19 December 2015 11: 28
      0
      Nah yes! Interesting remark Mr. Gore-1974! No need to wait for the delivery of products to a nearby store, but you must do the work yourself! It is interesting to know the opinion of forum users in this regard. We are waiting for what the people will say !?
      1. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 19 December 2015 11: 46
        +2
        The people are preparing to survive with the help of their gardens. It will be difficult for Muscovites, yes ...
        In St. Petersburg, fishing on all channels will be smile
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 12: 04
          +1
          Hmm ... I don’t know what is being caught here, except for the smelly stickleback (not to be confused with smelt) nothing was caught from the Fontanka. True, in childhood I caught .. laughing
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        3. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 19 December 2015 14: 04
          0
          Quote: Kostoprav
          In St. Petersburg, fishing on all channels will be

          The experience is great, survival! The main thing is that the liberals scatter (they eat a lot and yell ...)))) laughing
  • kazachyok69
    kazachyok69 19 December 2015 11: 21
    +1
    an attempt to create an alternative world currency based on the gold yuan

    You yourself are not funny? What is the currency in history that was generally provided with gold? Royal chervonets? And you ask what it cost the Russian Empire! And so, the yuan provided with gold is Nonsense! no gold is enough ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 19 December 2015 11: 32
      +1
      And why is it necessary to provide gold without fail? Rare earth element? Well, there are even more rare ones. And let's provide Uranus! Well, or another element. For example, artificially produced. How is such an idea?
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 19 December 2015 11: 43
        +4
        Quote: Region 34
        And let's provide Uranus! Well, or another element. For example, artificially produced. How is such an idea?

        I will probably expand and deepen the idea. Let's provide the ruble RS-24. If someone doesn’t like something there and starts demanding something, we will provide fast and uncompromising delivery.
        1. Chiropractor
          Chiropractor 19 December 2015 11: 50
          +5
          A counter proposal - to provide the currency of Russia with its main wealth - land!

          By the way, the ruble is not the currency of Russia, but the currency of the Central Bank.
          And the Central Bank is not a bank of Russia, but a branch of the IMF. That is why officials (employees) of the Central Bank of Russia CJSC (a bank located in Russia, but not controlled by Russia) obey only their superiors - the IMF. Therefore, the head of the Central Bank is praised in the Western press solely because they listen well, and they put a bolt on the GDP ...
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 19 December 2015 12: 14
            +1
            Quote: Kostoprav
            to provide the currency of Russia with its main wealth - land!
            They didn’t wonder how many dollars it would take to buy up all the land in Russia, who would be the first to do it, and for how long?
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 19 December 2015 12: 07
        +4
        Alas and ah. Uranium is certainly good, but it also changes to gold. In fact, gold, as a standard, has never gone anywhere. Any country: "gold reserve". And providing real gold money is not so difficult. In any case, few people will immediately run to the exchanger. If a country like Libya could, then what to say about China. True, in China, right there, it can happen, what happened in Libya? Which, indirectly, proves about the real possibilities of Gaddafi, to triple the United States, "Kuzkin's mother", by the introduction of the "golden dinar".
    2. max702
      max702 19 December 2015 13: 17
      +4
      It is possible to make an energy ruble, and tie it to kW / h .. There are plenty of ideas but it is not profitable for the current bigwigs because they incur losses ..
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 19 December 2015 13: 40
        +3
        Our country can do anything as a standard. Mendeleev and his entire table, with us. In order to change something, you just need to remove the paper as a value. Here, I, personally, am optimistic about the future. If you just stand up in the blank defense and occasionally snarl, then the paper itself will collapse, moreover, in the near future. That deep crisis (if of course, what they write is true) will lead to the destruction of the System. And, then, it is difficult to imagine what will happen, but, apparently, there will be either the USA (preferably) or nothing at all.
      2. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 19 December 2015 18: 32
        +2
        Quote: max702
        It is possible to make an energy ruble, and tie it to kW / h .. There are plenty of ideas but it is not profitable for the current bigwigs because they incur losses ..

        Already wrote that it is necessary to introduce energy currency. KW / h is easily converted to kcal, in which you can measure fuel, food, and other goods. There is energy in any product, you can simply enter up or down coefficients.
        At least it would be a fair exchange both within the country and between countries, without paying a tribute to the dollar, and therefore without colonial dependence on the hegemon.
        But the deputies, all as one lobbying interests of financial speculators, will not allow this.
        Even here in VO, many people do not want to exclude the speculative component, let alone deputies living on a modest deputy salary and not having any relation to the financial speculation and business of their offspring. wassat
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 19 December 2015 11: 21
    +3
    I probably will not wait for the end of the global financial system. This has already been said so much. but no changes are observed in the life of the people of Russia. So, this is done only to calm the people, no more than that (although people can’t be fooled, he sees everything) Even if the system collapses, another one will immediately replace it and what no one knows from it at all.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 19 December 2015 11: 41
      +1
      Well, what other system? The capitalism system is a gambler system. I am the smartest and most cunning! I managed to chop everyone! The result. He has a bunch of dibs and nothing to eat. Socialism. Unit zero, unit nonsense! One, even a very important one! Will not be able to raise a simple five-pointed log. Especially the five-story house! The result. Everyone works for the good of society, and in the end, for himself. If a ship breaks through, who will save the ship? Single hero or team action?
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 19 December 2015 11: 22
    +3
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    We, in St. Petersburg, at the exits from the metro again grandmothers-grandfathers appeared. They sell all kinds of homemade pickles, flowers ... They are being chased by the police, they will run away to the side, the patrol will pass, they will return to their place again. Like in the 90s .. A bad prognostic sign is ...

    I would be happy to help grannies, but when they sit near the road and offer meat, all kinds of berries, like they don’t want to buy such products, impregnated with dust and heavy metals)
    conducted an experiment - measured the mercury content in mushrooms, which were sold on the highway. The mercury content is many times higher than normal. So grandmothers are doomed to failure of their business) Correctly the police do what drives. It’s not necessary to sit on the road, but in a quieter place.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 19 December 2015 12: 19
      +4
      All right, just say that all these grandmas work like a litmus test, the indicator - the more there are, the worse the standard of living. People can’t be fooled.
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  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 19 December 2015 11: 26
    +3
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    Is metal more expensive? It is slowly falling, like all types of resources, along with oil ... Compare the cost of metals 10 years ago and now ...

    Now it’s getting cheaper, tomorrow it’s going to rise in price. The essence of my post is that even in the provinces capitalism is felt. Be careful
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 19 December 2015 11: 27
    +1
    The show begins. And no one can relive him in a comfortable chair, watching events from television screens and staying aloof from what is happening. It will be a fascinating sight, albeit a very painful one.


    Exactly - "SHOW", in the action of which only a few are involved, and the organizers are trying to make the whole world viewers. What fun fun, giving the world the absolute equivalent of paying !? The most important thing is to convince everyone that this is a panacea for all ills. And the words that "... should help dollar appreciation against other currencies, creating a global dollar deficit and provide overflow into dollars of any free cash funds worldwide"should cause euphoria in any (currency speculator?) inhabitant of the planet. Reinforcement of the policy of" power of the dollar "by the statement" of the head of the Federal Reserve System that, if necessary, money will be thrown from helicopters "should cause what feelings ?! , as with the words: "We exchange gold and silver coins for wooden rubles ..." But these are the words of their cartoon, otherwise - real life.
    Didn't we mix anything up? Will we continue to play monopoly, portraying "tough" financiers? My opinion: cut it off once and for all! Let it hurt once, it's easier than suffering all your life ...
    what
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 19 December 2015 11: 27
    0
    buy dollars, at the moment, somehow protect yourself from the devaluation of the main currency
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 December 2015 11: 29
    +8
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    heh he scare you Muscovites ....

    The trouble is that you can frighten them only by the absence of moldy cheese. And since they are used to it, they live in a separate state. For some reason, to pensioners of Moscow, the government of this city, which has accumulated the finances of all of Russia, makes not feeble additional payments, utilities are half as much as in our Far East, etc. I would like to ask our government - Moscow pensioners are probably more important to the state than from the so-called. Muscovites "provinces", which feeds them. This is what starts to piss off the most. Then Muscovites are surprised that the regions do not burn "love" for them. They got sick, that's why the troubles ("liberal" traitors) all come from Moscow.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 19 December 2015 12: 02
      +9
      And you are familiar with the names: Nazdratenko, Darkin, Shport, Khoroshavin, you are correctly familiar because this is the name of the governors of the Far Eastern District. So most of the relatives of these "worthy" Primorye residents have long settled in Moscow and have their own business.
      There is an open question with Khoroshavin, if it comes to trial, then for about 15 years he will linger in your region.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 19 December 2015 12: 19
        +6
        The trouble is that you do not delve into what you read if you read. And here are the former governors of Primorye, the governor of Khabarovsk kr.? They will receive pensions with a state surcharge. The conversation was about Muscovites, who without a twinge of conscience put above other residents of Russia. What personally do you still not understand? You probably will understand what the problem is when you visit the Far East and talk to us with your aplomb.
        1. Winged 38
          Winged 38 19 December 2015 20: 59
          +2
          And the only difference is that Muscovites have Red Square, which can be reached (if they raise, ask, pay or do not pay), but we do not. Therefore, they are fed better ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 December 2015 19: 59
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Moscow pensioners are probably more important for the state than from the so-called. Muscovites "provinces", which feeds them.

      They still affectionately call it that, all of us who are behind the ring - M U X O S R A N S C! wink
  • Skresir
    Skresir 19 December 2015 11: 32
    +4
    Belarusians will survive, they have all the farms working, so they feed themselves. The rest is dust. Many people buy land right now, and it feeds. hi
    1. S_last
      S_last 19 December 2015 19: 35
      +1
      If everything is reduced only to the problem of survival, then yes. And if you look wider. Everyone only survives on their patch of land, there is no economy, no money, no industrial production. Accordingly, there is no education, no medicine, no science, and no army. Actually, this is exactly what they strive to do with Russia. Children do not learn, there is no progress, planes fly high in the sky, but the survivors do not care, they survive.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 19 December 2015 11: 32
    0
    ..The situation is like in "The Golden Calf" .. Load oranges in barrels ... The Countess, with a changed face, runs to the pond ..
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 19 December 2015 11: 35
    +4
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    heh he scare you Muscovites ....

    The trouble is that you can frighten them only by the absence of moldy cheese. And since they are used to it, they live in a separate state. For some reason, to pensioners of Moscow, the government of this city, which has accumulated the finances of all of Russia, makes not feeble additional payments, utilities are half as much as in our Far East, etc. I would like to ask our government - Moscow pensioners are probably more important to the state than from the so-called. Muscovites "provinces", which feeds them. This is what starts to piss off the most. Then Muscovites are surprised that the regions do not burn "love" for them. They got sick, that's why the troubles ("liberal" traitors) all come from Moscow.

    We've already heard this since the times of the USSR. Were you surprised? Do you know that only 30% of native Muscovites remain, and the rest, if you use your slang, have come in large numbers, but the same Russians come in large numbers. So what?
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 19 December 2015 12: 04
      +2
      And you "come in large numbers" from where you got it, I don't have that in my comments. Who came in large numbers to you is your problem. They all call themselves Muscovites. I myself once wrote that the real, indigenous Muscovites of these millions can soon be counted on the fingers. But this does not change the general picture of attitudes towards other Russians.
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 19 December 2015 12: 25
        +4
        I am a native Muscovite. He served in the ZakVo at the office of dolzhnost. I had no problems in "communicating with other Russians" as well as "others" with me. My colleagues are scattered throughout the CIS and not only, we communicate well, meet and help each other. ..... Who came in large quantities to you is your problem ...
        As they call themselves personally I do not care.
        Everything always depended on people!
        Are you angry, maybe they didn’t communicate with those?
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 19 December 2015 12: 40
          +2
          In my service (officer positions) in Soviet times, I very often had to deal with Muscovites. I did not say that they are all arrogant and mercantile, although not without it, but now this is manifested even more contrast. I repeat once again that I spoke about the attitude towards Moscow pensioners and "others" by definition. You can’t understand what I’m writing about?
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 19 December 2015 13: 26
            +4
            .... Pension in Moscow in 2015 is formed according to the rules established by federal legislation. If there is an experience of 5 years and reaching a certain age (55 years old wife, 60 years old husband), citizens can apply for a retirement pension. Persons who do not have the required length of service can receive social benefits. It is provided upon reaching the age of 60 (women) and 65 years (husband). Also, citizens have the right to apply for disability pensions, loss of breadwinner and other payments provided by law. They are provided according to general principles ...
            I am sure I answered your question! Pension supplements are provided by the Moscow government. Such surcharges (large or smaller) can be established by any federal unit of the Russian Federation from its budget.
            Do they exist in the Far Eastern Federal District? You will ask Nazdratenko, Darkin, Khoroshavin, Shport. Familiar surnames, right?
            1. cap
              cap 19 December 2015 14: 45
              +1
              Those who have not worked in Moscow for 10 years or more will not receive pensions with "Moscow" "surcharges". The topic was raised back in 2010. a little therefore and no reaction. And it sounded nauseous. hi
              This can only be heard in the Moscow Sobes. Because the decision is not at the federal level.
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 19 December 2015 11: 42
    -1
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    Quote: chikenous59
    Do not tell everyone, Mikhalych. Even in the provinces already capitalism)). Yes, there are poor people who have always lived poorly and will live like this when the whole world will rapidly develop.

    I wish I could send you, but you can't ... In the provinces, you say "capitalism" ... Yes, they survive, just by swearing! We'll give you a pancake "capitalism" in Moscow and Washington! Then there are 100-story mats ... angry drinks

    Rejoice that you do not have pronounced capitalism)) He completely blows the brains and makes zombies out of people ..
    In the future, hope for village people is an excellent gene pool.
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 19 December 2015 11: 58
      +1
      Quote: chikenous59
      In the future, hope for village people is an excellent gene pool.

      Village people in the future will be left almost completely. For the growth of labor productivity. The structure of society will change dramatically.
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 19 December 2015 11: 47
    +3
    What happens was what was going to happen:
    globalization of the world economy is the process of serving the economies of the world to the economy of the dominant country, which has a machine for printing the dollar.
    For the development of the world economy, it is necessary that the economy of each country develops and that there is a fair exchange of goods between countries.
    The creation of the WTO did not lead to fair trade. Market principles do not work. The market suggests as an incentive to develop production - increased demand for goods of improved quality. And now, the peoples have received the dictatorship of low cost and unsatisfactory quality goods. This applies primarily to agricultural products, when the population is offered products brought to distant lands, produced and transported using chemicals in the form of preservatives, pesticides, etc. But people prefer more healthy products that are produced in the traditional way in the region, but don’t receive them. - Pressure from the owners of large retail chains is affecting. It is a pity that Russia, after the introduction of illegal sanctions restrictions on trade, did not withdraw from the WTO - it was the right time to get rid of the restrictions that hinder the development of domestic production of goods.
  • Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 19 December 2015 11: 53
    +3
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    I was born in this circus, I am in this circus and will die, a campaign. At first they took great strides to the bright communist future, now they are the same steps to the capitalist ... but on the way, nobody promised to feed the campaign


    There are such things as bullish horseradish and sausage, here they are not the same thing.
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 19 December 2015 11: 55
    +3
    Conclusion from an interesting article: first of all, we need not to collect foreign exchange reserves (although they are also needed and important in certain volumes), not to go into the US dollar-controlled global financial system no matter what, and develop production of goods indispensable for a truly independent state .
    Such as food, elemental base, advanced materials and technologies. Then there will be no problems with finished goods for reproduction and consumption.
    The orientation towards the "world division of labor" can be only partial, in spite of the WTO and other declarations. It is necessary to rationally "close".
    For example, Gazprom’s bosses all wanted to sell gas retail in Europe.
    Say, this is profitable. fellow They started some kind of exchange of assets, etc. But the EU will not allow this. Retail gas - this is "his booty", this is a piece of European companies. here you have the third energy package, and the antimonopoly proceedings, and through, through, through ... Isn't it easier to stop hoping for the space "from Lisbon to Vladivostok" and sell gas on the border with Ukraine? Slightly cheaper than other suppliers. And then let the gayropeans row with the banderlog.
    Or they brought together all the world's companies for the Russian automotive market. Moreover, often with a very low level of localization. As if it is rubber, as if no one goes out onto the streets of cities clogged with cars, as if "out of course", that the average Russian cannot dispose of his car once every 5-7 years, but the sale by hand also limits the production of new machines.
    And now, a little crisis, ah-ah, a decline in production ... Why is this so? what
    In fairness, it should be noted that a lot is being done through the floating course and some other things. But I want it faster. laughing
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 19 December 2015 12: 14
      +6
      Or maybe the team of "liberal economists" should be changed?
      Maybe it's worth the seriousness to listen to Glazier, Delyagin?
  • Cu6up9k
    Cu6up9k 19 December 2015 12: 06
    +1
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    And no one can survive it in a comfortable chair, watching events from TV screens and staying away from what is happening. It will be a fascinating sight, albeit very painful

    heh he scare you Muscovites .... wassat And we are preparing for war in the provinces (just kidding). We saw all these courses and actions in one place! hi

    I agree 200 percent. Nobody canceled the summer cottages and cellars. We will survive by subsistence farming.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 19 December 2015 12: 25
      0
      "Nobody canceled summer cottages and cellars" - this is true, but not everyone has summer cottages and cellars. And filling the cellar also requires considerable effort and time, and not everyone has it either.
      But in general, the comment is correct, all hope is in the cellar.
  • Aureol
    Aureol 19 December 2015 12: 10
    +1
    To save or extend the lifetime of an existing system (dollar) can:
    1. The reflection of the invasion from Mars (or from an alternate reality);
    2. A flock of asteroids (a wandering planet, etc.), really threatening the Earth;
    3. Global geological and climatic catastrophe;
    4. World war (condition-using only tactical nuclear weapons).
    5. As a peaceful variant of "salvation", you can use the issue of resettlement of a part of humanity to Mars or the Moon, but again, enough "compelling" reasons are needed so that John, Huang, Arjun or Tedan agree to the event.
    In general, the whole world is starting to rake, participate or prepare for one of the above events, and the dollar is in openwork. Moreover, in all cases trial balls are already being thrown. But it is advisable to start in the next decade.
    Or the birth of a new world economy. Then the fourth option will be a plus.
    In any case, there comes a very interesting time. We stock up on popcorn.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 December 2015 12: 12
    +5
    IMHO, we observe a crisis of purpose - not finance. The financial system is already a consequence. Uncontrolled consumption with an increasing variety of desires CANNOT BE the goal of human development. The entire credit system is built on this. Consume now, consume more, consume on credit - and in no case think about it - why! Resources on Earth with such a development model will not last long. The next step on this path is virtual reality with a tangibly olfactory sensation - and humanity basically dies out in a natural way. If he doesn’t get killed before, some kind of cosmic cobblestone is just above average.
    After all, this consumer system forces even products to be produced with worse quality, so that it will not be enough for a long time - the car is changed every three years, smartphones and computers - in two, and some fans - even more often. And they press, press with aggressive advertising, slipping the standards of behavior that are not natural for a person. The same is still in Goethe's "Faust" - only he is worthy of life and freedom, who every day goes to battle for them!
    And what fight are we called? Not in Russia, but in the same gamerope. In line for a sale? How hard it is, in this gamerope. And generally in the Western way of life. This is when not a tourist, but to live.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 19 December 2015 12: 27
    +5
    Moreover, the main causes of the problem situation of the world economy today are no secret to anyone. And they are as follows:

    1. Since the world is a closed economic system, which in recent decades has become truly global, it has its own natural limits of development. And these limits on a huge range of products reached. The economic result is always a balance between supply and effective demand. There are no problems with the proposal. By providing cheap money, the Fed and the EuroCB attempted to increase effective demand by influencing the solvency of those who were to meet this demand. But rested on the fact that there is also physical demand, which in principle can not be so easily affected. Well, a person does not need several cars, refrigerators or sets of furniture. And even the rapidly progressing technological gadgets cannot be changed every month to more advanced ones, since they still could not master all the possibilities of those that already exist. This objectively inhibits the growth of demand as such outside of its value. This is one important factor.

    The second is that, no matter how cheap the loan is, it still remains a loan, and it must be repaid, and the loan must be paid, including interest, which only at first glance seem miserable. In fact, real consumer loan rates are at least twice as high as announced. And at a certain point, the share of regular payments on existing loans becomes so high that it becomes impossible to think about new loans.

    The third important factor is that, with the world population growing rapidly, the objective need for jobs on a global scale is falling. This leads to an objective reduction in the income of labor resources, which are the main source of world demand.

    The fourth important factor is that any new technological breakthrough that creates new jobs and new incomes that are the source of demand in a closed system inevitably causes a fold greater reduction in demand and jobs in obsolete industries and technological production, replaced by new ones. .


    I read and remembered a book from the 70s "Quota or Society of Abundance." I don't remember the author exactly, Ver Cor or Vercors, but that's not the point. And in the idea expressed in it - earnings only on condition of purchases. Moreover, its size and receipt depended on the cost and quantity of the purchased.
    Then, in the USSR, I read, laughed and forgot. But no - there’s how hiccuped this approach to the whole world.
    And the second in the given section of the article. The world should begin to limit the speed of scientific and technological development in the field of consumption, concentrating development in the field of environmental development and provide millions and millions of working people with jobs. Thus, returning the balance of production and consumption in the framework of normally functioning economic relations.
    And most importantly - forget about capitalism! Socialism and a planned economy with market elements in the field of consumption. And remember that Bolivar - the planet Earth, will not stand our gluttony in consumption.
    New giants of consumption are rising and they, together with the insatiable "golden billion", will ruin the planet.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 December 2015 13: 03
      +1
      Quote: NordUral
      Socialism and a planned economy
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 19 December 2015 13: 14
        0
        To what extent the villains were brought to the country by the communists.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 19 December 2015 14: 26
          0
          Quote: IS-80
          To what extent the villains were brought to the country by the communists.

          Have you read the sign? Is this what the Communists organized for them free feeding? smile
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 19 December 2015 14: 30
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            Have you read the sign? Is this what the Communists organized for them free feeding?

            But they brought that country! smile
            1. olimpiada15
              olimpiada15 19 December 2015 15: 08
              +1
              They didn’t bring the country; the USSR was betrayed and sold for jeans and tights.
              Photos with the queues have already gotten. People stood in line mainly because they wanted to.
              I lived at that time, I had small children and there was no time to stand and did not starve at all.
              I’ll take to the kindergarten and run to work, past the store, it’s not working yet, but the line is already standing. Why is asking panic caught up? They gave coupons, at the end of the month you come, everything is there and there is no queue.
              The real problems were in large cities, but they say that they didn’t let cars with food into Moscow, they turned it around, it was a way of organizing outrage, now these photos are proof of a bad life.
              The lines for vodka were especially outraged, even the coupons were introduced — I personally threw them away — it wasn’t always until the booze.
              And yet, for those who did not live at that time. Subsidiary farms were organized at the enterprises to solve nutrition issues. There were such at all large enterprises, in the canteens a good lunch, you go into cooking, you buy meat products, semi-finished products, vegetables and in the evening for half an hour dinner is ready. I have good memories from the 80s, I didn’t go anywhere from the back door, I didn’t freeze at flea markets, I didn’t stand in line, dressed, shod, I didn’t starve. She didn’t chase jeans, but when you put a dress on a good figure, everything will do for import, I wore imported shoes, I bought them freely in the store.
              Products from all over the country were brought to Moscow, and then transported back by train.
              1. a housewife
                a housewife 19 December 2015 16: 44
                +2
                AWESOME! Food stamps - okay ?! A plant producing radio equipment is planting cucumbers - is it normal? People in lines are just doing nothing - is that normal? The workshops were closed because you have to go to the collective farm for harvesting - is that normal? Jeans - to hell with them, but without pantyhose, a woman is nowhere, and not getting them - is that normal? Is the cost of 3 rubles and imported 7 rubles (at the present 300 and 700 rubles) - normal? In the Kuban (!) There were no fruits in the store, only in the market - is it normal? At a time when jam began to cook 1 kg of sugar in your hands - is that normal? Peas, which we also cultivated, corn, Krasnodar tea, a couple of times a year for a little thing in grocery sets - is that normal? Sausage, cheese, butter - these were the queues. Not for import, for ours! One Moscow was more or less supplied. It's a shame!
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 19 December 2015 20: 04
                +1
                Quote: olimpiada15
                People stood in line mainly because they wanted to.

                You tell this nonsense to your grandchildren, and not to us !!! am
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 19 December 2015 13: 40
        +4
        You do not confuse the second half of the 80s with socialism. In the distant 50s, in my childhood, in the confectionery department, my eyes flashed with an abundance of sweets (I notice the natural, not flavored, shit that they slip into us now). And this city in which I was born was in the remote outback of the Northern Urals.
        Therefore, I ask you not to confuse, or even lie, about the famine in the USSR. The union it was very different at different times of its existence.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 19 December 2015 13: 59
          -1
          In the distant 50, in my childhood,
          Dear NordUral, the problem is that socialism then ended, i.e., with the death of I.V. Stalin.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 19 December 2015 15: 31
            -1
            I agree with you, I constantly keep saying about it. Therefore, we live in oligarchic feudalism.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 19 December 2015 17: 24
              0
              Do not call the system, but still, everything depends on the person. He takes the hooter, if one imagines that, at the same time, in the same game, he would have won, not I.V. Stalin, but L.D. Trotsky. Outwardly, the ideology is the same, but in essence? So, and now, suppose, in power, with the same ideology, was not V.V. Putin, but, say, Chubais AB?
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 19 December 2015 13: 51
        +5
        Here is my city of those years. On the left is a grocery store.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 19 December 2015 14: 28
          +2
          Quote: NordUral
          On the left is a grocery store.

          And on the right is the Glory of the CPSU and Lenin.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 19 December 2015 15: 30
            0
            Does it hurt you?
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 19 December 2015 16: 29
              -1
              Quote: NordUral
              Does it hurt you?

              Absolutely not, I have seen enough of this stuff at one time smile Then another time came ...
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 19 December 2015 22: 06
                0
                The CPSU of the 80s does not cause me regrets, but it was not always like that.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 19 December 2015 12: 34
    +6
    I have been reading these oracles for many years. Such as Khazin, Starikov, and a number of others. They are stated competently and clearly. The collapse of the US financial system was to occur in 12g then at 13. Well, at 14 already in the summer !!! And already 15 years have ended! They are flourishing, and we are in Zh .., as the Guarantor said the day before yesterday, we thought a black streak last year, but no. It was white and black this year. Whether it will be in 16!
    I am surprised if an engineer spoils something and his piece of iron breaks and destroys people - they put him in prison. But economists get away with it. What they just do not predict - nothing comes true. And everything is fine!
    So I’ve been waiting for the circus for 5 years and he’s not going. I don’t know whether I will live or not with such forecasts.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 19 December 2015 14: 34
      +6
      ..... So I’ve been waiting for the circus for 5 years and he’s not going anymore .....
      It would be better without a circus in the economy, seen enough.
      I agree with you. I read and listen to Khazin, but he is a demagogue. He has no program, and criticizing with a sweet smile is not necessary.
      I got acquainted with the program of S. Glazyev. I’m not an economist, but the positions that he offers to clear speculators from the foreign exchange market, reorganize lending to the real economy by banks, get off the currency needle, etc. seem rational to me.
      Let's wait and see!
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 19 December 2015 12: 40
    0
    Quote: Region 34
    It is interesting to know the opinion of members of the forum in this regard

    If the price of the issue were a couple of 545 horns, they would have solved everything a long time ago. In fact, everything will be much more complicated and expensive.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 19 December 2015 13: 06
    +1
    The article is a very useful excursion into the theory of the world economy.
    Cheaper resources and higher cost of final products. The appearance of financial bubbles. Betting game.
    ... increase solvent demand by affecting the solvency of those who were supposed to provide this demand. But they came up against the fact that there is also physical demand, which cannot be so easily influenced ...


    The financial system is getting out of control. Most likely the process will stretch for years. The dollar is unlikely to give way, the likelihood that it will become stronger is greater than the likelihood of its weakening. There are positive changes, the mere fact that many in the world understand the need to get rid of a unipolar world is already encouraging.
  • onix757
    onix757 19 December 2015 13: 17
    +2
    Another fantasy from the soap opera "America will die soon" smile
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 19 December 2015 13: 22
    +3
    To the author +! Who thinks clearly - he clearly states ... The USA has mega-problems, but solves them at the expense of anyone, not Americans. The Fed is a powerful force. Yellen is rare .... but not a fool.
    China is building its financial empire (yuan, an autonomous card project, gold reserves, which are not boasted in vain, etc.). China will stand.

    In Russia natural resources carefully rewritten to the offshore international. Talented Brains Hands
    get drunk and unified.
    Does Mr. Rating want and can and K , something to change in this state? It is unlikely .. "Concepts and strategies" are many - few things to do. The invincible Russian spirit remains.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 19 December 2015 13: 30
    +1
    As one famous hero said in one famous film: "A beggar is not afraid of fire." Let the "billionaires" be afraid.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 19 December 2015 13: 42
      +1
      The stock exchange "fire" is not terrible for the poor .... But seeing a foreign elite in the Kremlin is a disgusting feeling.
  • Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 19 December 2015 13: 50
    +2
    Quote: sa-ag
    buy dollars, at the moment, somehow protect yourself from the devaluation of the main currency

    Unfortunately you are right. If oil does not rise in price, and it most likely does not rise in price in the next 2-3 months, see us a dollar above 90.
  • tokens2
    tokens2 19 December 2015 14: 02
    -1
    You know ...
    That's how many people were scared by the war in the USSR
    probably not one people scared!
    I’m almost a whole album from a kid with friends
    newspaper clippings with rockets, submarines, sinister comics, Japanese cranes and people running around there
    from a blast wave.
    All these creepy articles about the "beginning of the end" of course today are remembered with a slight touch laughing longing and desire to repeat everything.
    This is similar to the slave state of a slave, forever in fear.
    American fear was leveled by envy and desire for profit.
    The Soviet man was deprived of this.
    Do not repeat the mistakes of the past. You can not jump above your head.
    The bomb shelters are too much like concentration camps for survivors.
    The show begins. And no one can survive it in a comfortable chair,

    buy when everyone sells.
    I think I can accept a good leather chair as a gift.
    Author smile
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 19 December 2015 14: 23
      +5
      ...... Bomb shelters are too much like concentration camps for survivors .......
      And they still remained ???? I thought that everything was redone for offices and fitness clubs! smile
      1. tokens2
        tokens2 19 December 2015 14: 37
        0
        ..... Bomb shelters are too much like concentration camps for survivors .......
        And they still remained ???? I thought that everything was redone for offices and fitness clubs!

        under my subway window.
        I think I have time lol get to the "favorites"
        Before that, perhaps ... I’ll jump into the vodka and pharmacy.
        "Buy" something thread laughing so to speak on the subsequent barter.
        Yes ... you need to get some kind of badge.
        50 years metrostroy lol
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 19 December 2015 14: 47
          +4
          .... Yes ... you need to get some badge.
          50 years metrostroy ...
          Yes, I almost forgot. I'll give you a badge. I worked for 16 years in Metrostroy, I have them! smile
          1. tokens2
            tokens2 19 December 2015 15: 08
            0
            Yes, I almost forgot. I'll give you a badge. I worked for 16 years in Metrostroy, I have them!

            Take care, thing! Well, if possible, be sure to take it! hi
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 19 December 2015 14: 43
    +6
    Quote: Lexi2
    ..... Bomb shelters are too much like concentration camps for survivors .......
    And they still remained ???? I thought that everything was redone for offices and fitness clubs!

    under my subway window.
    I think I have time lol get to the "favorites"
    Before that, perhaps ... I’ll jump into the vodka and pharmacy.
    "Buy" something thread laughing so to speak on the subsequent barter.
    Yes ... you need to get some kind of badge.
    50 years metrostroy lol

    You are a lucky person !!!! From me to the nearest metro station 10 minutes walk. If I’m not mistaken, the flight time from Europe is about 8-10 minutes, I won’t have time, and there will be no more places. It is comforting that there are a lot of sewer hatches near the entrance. laughing
    1. tokens2
      tokens2 19 December 2015 14: 59
      0
      It is reassuring that there are many sewer hatches near the entrance.

      Keep an eye on the wipers. The future elite laughing
      No, our metro as "cancer to China" is not provided.
      And is it necessary without relatives and friends? hi
  • iouris
    iouris 19 December 2015 15: 01
    +1
    The author writes that the dollar is the world currency, and he considers the "state" to be the regulator of financial relations. Isn't there a contradiction here? It is high time to see that the US state performs the functions of a supranational regulator and acts on behalf of the "world government." In any case, the "supranational state" does not affirm the ideas of democracy, goodness and justice, but is a class one, that is. it is an instrument of dictatorship, a machine for suppressing the exploited classes. Any "nation state" is a department of this world state.
    The development of the imperialist economic system (globalization) has led to the emergence of "superfluous peoples" for whom there is no work. No work, no consumption. He who does not consume should leave.
  • bad
    bad 19 December 2015 15: 29
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A

    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental


    garbage men ... the top of this show will be a total reduction in the population and the destruction of the infrastructure of countries and cities ... because only complete destruction can give a revolution to the gradual restoration and demand for working hands ... that is, in a spiral ... laughing hence the conclusion ... repeat the device of the Kalashnikov assault rifle .. because in this show it is better to have AK on hand than popcorn and 3D glasses laughing
    .. good advice .. yes, and in general, God forbid, of course .. but there may come times when the machine will have to take on .. RUSSIA has a lot of "friends and partners" around ..
  • epsilon571
    epsilon571 19 December 2015 17: 47
    0
    Unlike Europeans, we know our world through suffering and faith and not through financial crises, and let the outcasts read this article, it’s written for them. They are trying to destroy us, they are buying up resources, they are strangling us with taxes, but this makes us even stronger. Analysts from all over the world will go crazy, but let them listen to this song, then they will understand what our strength is. Let us listen, today is Sunday, but this policy!

  • Emerald
    Emerald 19 December 2015 19: 27
    0
    As soon as there is a mismatch in the rate of emission of the United States and other recognized emission centers, instantly at the point of maximum emission there will already be an undisguised effect of hyperinflation.

    Can anyone explain in more detail?
  • Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 19 December 2015 20: 49
    0
    Not an article, but childish babble ... Starting with a misunderstanding of the essence of CRISES, and ending with alarmist (stupid) predictions of "imminent collapse" ... I don't even want to discuss ... I will only say one thing, no mafia (FRS) or a country on the eve a grandiose war WILL NOT BREAKDOWN trust in your currency ... Alarmists - FORGET about the "imminent collapse" and start saving your savings using exactly the currency you predict the collapse! There is nothing more to say ...
  • Lily
    Lily 20 December 2015 07: 48
    0
    "Bank of the Baruch family" Standard Charter Bank ", which is often called the main common fund of the world" behind the scenes ", began to slowly get rid of American dollars.
    The piquancy of the situation and its symbolism lies in the fact that it was Baruchs who stood at the origins of the creation of the dollar pyramid at the beginning of the last century.
    The next stage of the largest financial fraud of all time is completed by the same people who started it.
    In 1912, Bernard Baruch financed the election campaign of Democrat Woodrow Wilson, who, as President of the United States, gave the green light to the creation of a private Federal Reserve.
    Since then, the United States of America has been under the complete occupation of the international banking kahal, and since the late 70s, they generally ceased to exist as a state.
    Incidentally, the portrait of Woodrow Wilson is depicted on a one hundred thousand dollar bill. Thus, the “backstage” thanked its protege for the betrayal of society, the constitution and all of humanity.
    True, once, a citizen by the name of Kennedy decided to resent the fact that the dollar was printed by private individuals, but after that he lived only a week.
    Many have long asked one interesting question: what will replace the dollar? Bitcoin and the “Gold Standard” - the boys have fun - you need to come up with something that you can not even theoretically borrow ...
    Perhaps the answer is prompted by the Baruchs themselves?
    On December 2013, 400, representatives of Standard Chartered Bank, which is exactly XNUMX years old this year, signed an agreement with the largest bank in China, where the parties agreed to switch to clearing operations. In other words, for offsets, or simply for commodity exchange.
    This is, of course, a temporary measure: no one has yet canceled the Bible project based on loan interest. However, apparently at the moment the “elites” have not yet come up with a new global financial scam. "
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 December 2015 11: 14
      +1
      "Many have long been asking one interesting question: what will replace the dollar?" ////

      Whose economy is the largest, that rules. China begins to overtake America, so the yuan
      First it will become a reserve currency (it has already become), and then, perhaps, it will replace the dollar.
      But with America, nothing particularly terrible will happen from this. Will become the number 2 power.
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 20 December 2015 12: 07
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        But with America, nothing particularly terrible will happen from this. Will become the number 2 power.

        That you are too optimistic. By the way, I was wondering with Israel about very interesting prospects for the future. Most likely, the shekel will become the reserve currency and the territory of Israel will increase due to the southern regions of Syria who want to join the island of stability and Sinai after the United States finally throws Egypt and chaos begins there.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 20 December 2015 12: 26
          +1
          God save us from such happiness ... extra territories.
          We cannot even digest the captured in 1967 winked .
          But thanks for the sympathy! drinks
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 20 December 2015 12: 42
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            God save us from such happiness ... extra territories.

            Extra territories do not exist. And yes, not everything is here and always depends on you. Russia often also had no choice, or rather it was, but to refuse those who wanted to join or to refuse to join under other conditions was the worst choice both from the point of view of ethics and because of poor geopolitical prospects. This is the question of the fact that Russia captures and oppresses everyone. So I think this bodygie with the Palestinians could have been finished for a long time by joining the territory and putting things in order by tough measures with the support of international forces. Who wants to live and work normally, lives and works, who does not want to catch a grenade. If for so many years, under favorable conditions, they did not bother to build at least something similar to the state, then it’s easy to start.
  • archimer
    archimer 20 December 2015 21: 54
    -1
    What would the best aces of the USSR answer!
  • Avantageur
    Avantageur 21 December 2015 22: 39
    0
    If you have $ 10 in your pocket and you have no debts, then you are richer than 25% of Americans.

    wassat