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The US Congress will approve the purchase of Russian RD-180 in 2016 g

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The US Congress will lift the ban on the purchase of Russian engines in 2016 g, it follows from the bill on the budget of a number of federal agencies for the next year, reports Look with reference to tass.


The US Congress will approve the purchase of Russian RD-180 in 2016 g


“The main provisions of the budget have already been agreed by the leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives. It is expected that in the coming days, after the elimination of the remaining differences on taxes, the document will be approved by the legislators, ”the agency writes.

The US military budget for 2015 provided for the purchase of the 5 of Russian rocket engines (purchased by the ULA consortium - the United Launch Alliance - for Atlas V missiles), and another four are in the budget for 2016.

Earlier, the US Air Force and ULA called on Congress to soften the stringent requirements for abandoning Russian RD-180 and developing its own engines.

The extension of procurement, as expected, was dissatisfied with Republican McCain. In his message to the head of the Pentagon, he threatened to completely ban the use of the RD-180, if the military department together with the ULA did not stop manipulating Congress in their own interests.
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 17 December 2015 16: 45 New
    10
    That is, they will not start from trampolines? Sorry...
    1. Vikings
      Vikings 17 December 2015 16: 53 New
      +1
      And where do you go from a submarine! Of course you will be procured
      Fuck, our engines!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 17 December 2015 16: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Vikings
        And where do you go from a submarine! Of course you will be procured
        Fuck, our engines!

        For the bucks. We will sell them engines, and invest the money received in the T-bills of the USA. They would have been against such a freebie!
        1. sssla
          sssla 17 December 2015 17: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          We will sell them engines, and invest the money received in the T-bills of the USA. They would have been against such a freebie!

          It’s like on the battlefield (which is actually the case), the enemy’s engines are klinonul on the tanks, and you sell yours to them so that the enemy can finally reach the battlefield and soak an nth number of your comrades! This is not nonsense, it is some kind of PI !!! Loot always wins the good hi
          1. 78bor1973
            78bor1973 18 December 2015 04: 10 New
            0
            It’s not necessary to simplify this way, and the analogy about tanks is generally useless, but if the Americans don’t buy the RD-180 then the plant will simply not be with everyone coming out!
        2. user1212
          user1212 17 December 2015 17: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          For the bucks. We will sell them engines, and invest the money received in the T-bills of the USA. They would have been against such a freebie!

          The recipient of the money will not be the state, but the CB "Energomash".
        3. rati
          rati 17 December 2015 22: 58 New
          +4
          When the money is transferred to say, they say, the situation in Ukraine is not that ... does not improve. We can’t supply you engines yet. But how to improve - so immediately. Experience with the Mistrals is already there. All smart, understand (or pretend they understand).
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 December 2015 19: 30 New
        -3
        Quote: Vikings
        And where do you go from a submarine! Of course you will be procured
        Fuck, our engines!

        And we will purchase ship in China! Where are we going from the submarine! wink
      3. Uran
        Uran 17 December 2015 23: 31 New
        0
        when will this makein die?
        1. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 18 December 2015 04: 12 New
          0
          Do you seriously think that McCain is lonely there and bends everyone? Just the role of Parsley in him alone!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2015 16: 56 New
      -5
      It is more likely that our cosmonautics will soon have a full trampoline - we are marking time.
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 17 December 2015 17: 02 New
        +6
        Вот вам и Россия "сырьевой придаток, региональная держава"...Куда вы без нас? drinks But we can live without you!
        1. jPilot
          jPilot 17 December 2015 17: 31 New
          +3
          Это образование и полет научной мысли инженеров выращенных СССР и ненавистным "некоторым" коммунистическим режимом (как теперь говорят).
          It is a pity that woe reformers continue to finish off our education. And bring it to the level when many can not afford to educate the child in a quality manner.
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 17 December 2015 19: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          But we can live without you!
          Михалых, это как мы без них можем прожить? Эти гады нам делают больно через санкции, перекрывают кислород в самом для нас нужном, а мы им, типа, ах так, тогда мы ещё и от ваших помидор (или яблок) отказываемся!... Без их зелёных бумажек наши буржуины не могут, а если делать "партнёрам" аналогично больно, так надо и им перекрывать то, что им жизненно необходимо, в крайнем случае, те же ракетные двигатели если и продавать, то не за зелёный мусор, на благо ихней же экономики, а за золото. Выходит, не могут наши капиталисты без своих хозяев прожить, так как их сердца там, где их сокровища лежат, то есть в иностранных банках и тех же долларах. Движки создавали наши советские учёные, это было достояние всего советского народа, а жирное бабло имеют сейчас не работяги с завода "Энергомаш", а их торгаши-управленцы, всевозможные "менагеры", что и рядом порой с настоящей наукой не стояли, обученные по программам Сороса, играть в экономическую науку на благо транснациональных упырей, типа Ротшильдов и Рокфеллеров. Если марионеточная Европа ввела санкции против России в 2014 году, одного заявления, что накануне зимы Россия перекроет в ответ газ, хватило бы для их отрезвления, но увы, это не выгодно нашему газовому монополисту, при том, что в России множество городков и деревень сидят без природного газа. Да, народ России может без многого прожить, но сейчас власть уже не народная, а торгаши бы и Гитлеру движки и газ продавали после 22 июня 1941, дай им такое право.
          1. your1970
            your1970 17 December 2015 19: 46 New
            +1
            are you capable of waving gas wells with a wave of a magic wand ?? No? strange ..
            are you able to beat off fines for NOT supplying gas to Europe? No? strange ...
            are you able to supply gas to many cities and villages in Russia? No? strange ...
            вы способны...?а собственно говоря -на что вы способны?На бла-бла-бла "Упыри все украли!!!!" и все?или предложить что -то реально выполнимое для России?Нет?странно...
            And the fact that everything is not very good with us is what we see without your screaming ......
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 17 December 2015 22: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: your1970
              are you able to beat off fines for NOT supplying gas to Europe? No? strange ...

              We are able to not reduce the price of gas! And she was dropped in almost two, since the start of the sanctions.
              Quote: your1970
              this is what we see without your screaming ....

              Уря-я, всех победю? Объясните, почему Украине газ и уголь поставляем? Украинские ТВ смотрели? Посмотрите - мы для них открытые враги. Если бы Ваш сосед вел себя так же, Вы бы его "приложили", не так?
              1. your1970
                your1970 19 December 2015 12: 30 New
                0
                we supply gas under a contract, coal due to a shortage of electricity in the Crimea. If my neighbor behaved the same way, kill him right away - article (in our case, occupation + 40 million disgruntled faces), therefore - to start a police statement, purchase hunting rifles (demonstrative hunting trips with him lol yes ), buying an evil dog and only then (if it doesn’t help) - pouring gas on the neighbor’s house (with all children and household members) and setting fire to ..
                Ready for war? Do we need it?

                Констатировать факты очень легко-"продавать только за золото!!!"-есть покупатели?их много? или у нас страшно дефицитный и востребованный товар?нефть и газ есть у очень многих...

                About bourgeois. In 1991 18,7 million party members did not defend their party and their country, given the fact that there was no way to rise above the captain in the army / police - all the senior officers of all the power structures of the USSR clapped their eyes ...
                That is precisely why we live in that in which we live ...
            2. Per se.
              Per se. 17 December 2015 22: 49 New
              0
              Quote: your1970
              And the fact that everything is not very good with us is what we see without your squeals ...
              "Бла-бла-бла", не моя песня, я высказал своё мнение, если мало, так добавлю, что "у нас всё не особо хорошо" как раз не от моих "взвизгов". Что для вас то "выполнимо", свой среди чужих и чужой среди своих, образца 1970 года? Рубль никогда не будет твёрдой валютой, пока мы за свои товары не рубли требуем, не золото, а чужие бумажки. Пока буржуи у власти, для России выполнимо лишь то, что лично им выгодно, что соответствует их шкурным интересам. Если вам это не понятно ("Нет?странно..."), найдите родственную душу среди мальчишей-плохишей или таких же трубадуров из ура-патриотов, и пойте осанну "реальному", на это вы, определённо, способны.
          2. rati
            rati 17 December 2015 23: 00 New
            +2
            When the money is transferred to say, they say, the situation in Ukraine is not that ... does not improve. We can’t supply you engines yet. But how to improve - so immediately. Experience with the Mistrals is already there. All smart, understand (or pretend they understand).
        3. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 18 December 2015 01: 13 New
          0
          While there is no full-fledged replacement of the operating system with a Russian analogue - no! Tighten your programmers! There is already a processor, but there is no software (completely independent of foreign).
      2. Simon
        Simon 17 December 2015 17: 45 New
        0
        Yes what you say! These engines were designed and manufactured in the Soviet Union, but they were not used due to the fact that we had other engines, much better than these. These RD-180 engines were in storage, as the Americans did not see them under Yeltsin and bought these engines, since they turned out to be better than their own rocket engines, by the way, and the Chinese are now considering the purchase of our RD-180. At the moment, we have even better rocket engines than the RD-180, although they are not yet unsurpassed abroad.
        1. clidon
          clidon 17 December 2015 18: 39 New
          +4
          Эти двигатели были спроектированы на базе РД-170, которые ни на каких складах не лежали, а вполне себе летали на "Зенитах" и пару раз на "Энергии".
        2. zennon
          zennon 17 December 2015 21: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: Simon
          These RD-180 engines were in storage, as long as the Americans didn’t see them under Yeltsin and bought these engines,

          Here a man heard a ringing ... Not in the warehouses, but in the hangar were NK-33, the brainchild of a forgotten N-1 rocket. They were ordered to destroy them at one time, but clever Nikolai Dmitrievich Kuznetsov hid them. Yes, in the 90s they were seen by mattresses , gasped with delight and bought for their Antares. It smelled amazing! Just with an exceptional degree of reliability - 999,4.
          “Nikolai Dmitrievich Kuznetsov at one time decided to prove it; lengthy tests to failure were carried out. NK-33 worked without removal from the stand 16 launches, gained 15 thousand seconds "

          As for the RD-180, then yes, this is half the masterpiece of human thought-RD-170. I am happy and proud that at one time in Khimki I had the honor of standing next to this greatest creation of human thought!
          Here it is:
    3. vkl-47
      vkl-47 17 December 2015 17: 01 New
      +4
      Macain seychaz foam sprinkles
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 December 2015 17: 05 New
        +2
        Yes, no one listens to this dried fruit-schizophrenic - one grandfather will always be at lunch.
      2. Vikings
        Vikings 17 December 2015 17: 24 New
        +2
        You probably wanted to write, saliva !?
        Quote: vkl-47
        Macain seychaz foam sprinkles
    4. Atrix
      Atrix 17 December 2015 17: 05 New
      +1
      I just can’t understand why Moscow wants to sell these engines. Washington will suffer most from the refusal to sell these engines, not in vain because they allowed to buy. I do not think that these engines will bring hundreds of billions of profit. What is no reason to punish Washington.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 December 2015 17: 08 New
        +4
        Well, 60 billion rubles for our manufacturers, allied companies - work and money are not small.
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 17 December 2015 17: 30 New
          -2
          Quote: Vadim237
          Well, 60 billion rubles for our manufacturers, allied companies - work and money are not small.

          Listen, when America drove sanctions, they hit Russia, those sanctions that led Russia against America had practically no effect on Washington. Now there is an opportunity to prick America and show that Russia also has its trump cards in its sleeves.
          All this reminds me of Ukraine, when they scream on TV from all channels that Russia is an enemy and an aggressor, but we will trade with it. Here too, Washington is the main enemy, but we want to make money. These engines will probably put military satellites into orbit.
          1. user1212
            user1212 17 December 2015 18: 04 New
            +6
            Quote: Atrix
            Now there is an opportunity to prick America

            Отнять прибыль у нашего КБ Энергомаш мы этим себя накажем или америку? Ну запретим продавать, ну подвинут они свои запуски на 5-7 лет, до создания своей ракеты на старом движке от челнока. Что это изменит? Обороноспособность США мы этим никак не подорвем и к краху США это не приведет. Разве что наше, и так не богатое, КБ оставим без прибыли. Не надо нам "перемог" на украинский манер
            Quote: Atrix
            show that Russia also has its trump cards in its sleeves.

            This business is necessary, but not to the detriment of its industry and the space industry. Here it is important not to freeze oneself ears to the enemy’s evil.
          2. zennon
            zennon 17 December 2015 18: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Atrix
            These engines will probably put military satellites into orbit.

            Suppose, what, without them, these satellites would not be in orbit? America will not be able to withdraw them herself? Of course it will. So what the hell!
        2. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 18 December 2015 04: 18 New
          0
          А при снижении курса рубля так это вообще "золотое дно"!
      2. Simon
        Simon 17 December 2015 17: 53 New
        +4
        By purchasing our engines, the Americans are slowing down the development of their rocket engines, and selling to the Americans will be a good money. Although there is an option - the Chinese are considering the purchase of our RD-180.
        1. Engineer engineer
          Engineer engineer 17 December 2015 20: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Simon
          Buying our engines, the Americans are slowing down the development of their rocket engines

          Do you believe it yourself?
      3. zennon
        zennon 17 December 2015 18: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Atrix
        I just can’t understand why Moscow wants to sell these engines.

        Видите ли тёзка,нам самим они не нужны.Россия производит их исключительно на экспорт.А стоят они не мало-около 9 000 000 дохлых ваших перзидентов.С учётом стоимости бочки нефти в 38$,это весьма не дурно.Мы ничего не добъёмся,если не будем их поставлять.В матрасии не мало своих носителей.Русское пихло мощнее на единицу массы,эфективнее,дешевле.Но обойтись без него матрасники смогут вполне.Могут на "Дельтах" запускать.Вполне нормальный носитель.Могут "Арианы" подключить.Да,дороже,но вполне возможно.Ведь обходилась америка своими силами до 1993-го года!А если мы откажем в поставках,то просто потеряем деньги.Зачем?Знаете,рынок легко потерять.Репутацию приобрести ох как не просто...
        What is no reason to punish Washington.

        And for what? How to motivate the refusal? To spite grandmother frostbite ears ?!
      4. unsinkable
        unsinkable 17 December 2015 18: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Atrix
        What is no reason to punish Washington.

        It will turn out like this: in spite of the conductor, buy a ticket, go on foot. hi yes
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 17 December 2015 17: 09 New
      +4
      Спустя 6 неудачных пусков, выброшенных сотен млн $, и нескольких месяцев работы над созданием спутников, американцы все же поняли, Без "пинка" со стороны России им от планеты не оторваться.
    6. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 December 2015 19: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      That is, they will not start from trampolines?

      Каких батутов ??? Вы иногда интересуйтесь новостями. Вот Falcon 9 (с не нашими жидкостными ракетными двигателями Merlin), уже научилась возвращаться и совершать мягкую посадку. На подходе сверхтяжелый носитель SLS. А Вы смейтесь, смейтесь. Только не забывайте - "смеётся тот, кто смеётся последним"! hi
    7. max702
      max702 17 December 2015 19: 35 New
      0
      Do not those who sell these engines do not understand that they will launch rockets with these engines? am Well so for especially gifted quote from the text Earlier, the US Air Force and ULA called on Congress to soften the stringent requirements for abandoning Russian RD-180 and developing its own engines. that as if directly hints for what they need these engines for !! am
      Нам например не продали "Мистрали" дабы не повышать логистический компонент наших ВМС, как и многое доугое что может повысить нашу боеспособность, точно также обстоят дела и в помышленно технологическом секторе.. Да что -ж, нам не дают даже ДЕНЕГ!( кредиты) а это любимый товар буржуев.. Делается абсолютно все лишь бы затормозить развитие нашей страны.. А вот мы похоже наоборот за бумажки все готовы продать.. Сталин говорил "Один купленный корабль у врага получается как ДВА!" Надеюсь почему объяснять не надо?
    8. Vanya Ivanov
      Vanya Ivanov 17 December 2015 21: 57 New
      0
      Don't contract in the article either.
      WASHINGTON, December 16. / Corr. TASS Ivan Lebedev. The US Congress intends to lift the ban on the use of Russian companies RD-180 rocket engines by American companies to put military satellites into orbit by order of the Pentagon. This is provided for by the promulgated budget bill for a number of federal ministries and departments for fiscal 2016, the main provisions of which have already been agreed upon by the leaders of the Senate and House of Representatives.
      FOR WITHDRAWAL OF MILITARY SATELLITES.
    9. Uran
      Uran 17 December 2015 23: 30 New
      0
      I can’t understand how did they fly to the moon if they buy from us?
    10. vkl-47
      vkl-47 18 December 2015 08: 11 New
      0
      Macain seychaz foam sprinkles
      Quote: Vikings
      You probably wanted to write, saliva !?
      Quote: vkl-47
      Macain seychaz foam sprinkles

      A mad dog has only foam
  2. JonnyT
    JonnyT 17 December 2015 16: 45 New
    +1
    Naturally - they are not fools
  3. serg1970
    serg1970 17 December 2015 16: 47 New
    +4
    Hope McCain enough hit
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 17 December 2015 16: 55 New
      0
      Maybe Macken will offer them his jet engine, but on it even he will not fly anywhere, but I would like to.
  4. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 December 2015 16: 48 New
    +2
    This is called if you like come again! We knew you would like it! wassat
  5. corn
    corn 17 December 2015 16: 48 New
    +5
    NOTHING PERSONAL JUST BUSINESS. Some things can be learned from the Americans. Stsuki. It’s hard to express otherwise.
    1. corn
      corn 17 December 2015 16: 53 New
      +1
      И кого это я сегодня обидел? Или раньше?. Гюльчата-а-ай. Судя по количеству очков, какого-то "маршаля"
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 17 December 2015 16: 56 New
        +3
        How to whom? Stsuk of course. They are offended by comparison with the Americans.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 17 December 2015 16: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: corn
        And whom did I offend today?

        Probably someone understands Zadornov literally, and any doubt about this is heresy! laughing
  6. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 17 December 2015 16: 48 New
    +2
    Yes, Americans spit on their own sanctions !!! ))) own skin closer to the body !!! )))
  7. Mixweb
    Mixweb 17 December 2015 16: 53 New
    +1
    Производители "батутов-носителей" теперь разорятся. laughing But seriously, there are no options. Not on the Ukrainian missiles they fly. Russian rocket engines are the best in the world, as this news proves.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2015 16: 58 New
      +1
      After 5 years, let's see what they get with their engines.
    2. clidon
      clidon 17 December 2015 20: 19 New
      0
      They already have their own (Delta 4 and Falcon). European is (Arian). And it’s completely pressed, they will ask the Chinese, they will gladly take our market share for themselves.
  8. wandlitz
    wandlitz 17 December 2015 16: 58 New
    +2
    It does not work out a complete blockade of Russia by Fashington.
  9. MAX2014
    MAX2014 17 December 2015 16: 58 New
    -1
    engines do not sell, let satellites launch fart soldier
  10. novobranets
    novobranets 17 December 2015 17: 03 New
    0
    The extension of procurement, as expected, was dissatisfied with Republican McCain. In his message to the head of the Pentagon, he threatened to completely ban the use of the RD-180, if the military department together with the ULA did not stop manipulating Congress in their own interests.
    The concussion makes itself felt, plus megalomania. He will ban the use of engines ... Dunce. AMs have two ways, either to buy Russian engines, or to bury the space program. Well, who will allow this priypky to stop halfway space research into which huge sums of money have been piled. They will pick up all, without a certificate from a psychiatrist. wassat
  11. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 17 December 2015 17: 10 New
    -1
    They simply have no alternative to Russian engines! They break a huge amount of money, but can not come up with a complete alternative to our engines. And this, in my opinion, is an indicator of the state of American industry and science!
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 December 2015 17: 18 New
      0
      Artists should be hungry, in extreme cases, not gobble up. laughing
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 17 December 2015 17: 19 New
      +1
      Ie Falconov, Minatavrov, Delta, Taurus, does not exist? laughing The fact that one company uses our engines, which our officials are ready to sell without problems below COST, is not an indicator.
      MOSCOW, May 11 - RIA Novosti. OJSC NPO Energomash sold Russian RD-180 rocket engines for American Atlas-5 launch vehicles for half the cost of their production costs, according to the Russian Audit Chamber.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20110511/373020049.html#ixzz3uaVH2UWS
      1. cap
        cap 17 December 2015 18: 24 New
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Ie Falconov, Minatavrov, Delta, Taurus, does not exist? laughing The fact that one company uses our engines, which our officials are ready to sell without problems below COST, is not an indicator.
        MOSCOW, May 11 - RIA Novosti. OJSC NPO Energomash sold Russian RD-180 rocket engines for American Atlas-5 launch vehicles for half the cost of their production costs, according to the Russian Audit Chamber.


        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20110511/373020049.html#ixzz3uaVH2UWS

        Followed the link divided the losses by 2 it turns out there are no losses.
        On the contrary, a good cat for the service laughing
        It is necessary to clarify the latest landings. D. Rogozin announced that 150 cases were pending before the TFR. laughing
    3. An64
      An64 17 December 2015 17: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      They break a huge amount of money, but can not come up with a complete alternative to our engines.

      Not certainly in that way. Together with the engines, they bought a license for their production. It’s just cheaper for them to buy a ready-made engine than do it themselves, even under a license
    4. cap
      cap 17 December 2015 18: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      They simply have no alternative to Russian engines! They break a huge amount of money, but can not come up with a complete alternative to our engines. And this, in my opinion, is an indicator of the state of American industry and science!

      There is no alternative, and thank God. Putin at a press conference said about the engine for the aircraft, here is the news so the news. By parameters, the best in the world.
      Хохма будет если его "Боинг" и "Аэрбас" начнут закупать.
  12. Panabebis
    Panabebis 17 December 2015 17: 14 New
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    Yap McCain :))
  13. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 17 December 2015 17: 15 New
    +2
    As expected, the Republican McCain was dissatisfied with the extension of procurement
    And when this hamster is already choking death to his displeasure
  14. moskowit
    moskowit 17 December 2015 17: 16 New
    +2
    Наши заокеанские "друзья" специально замутили с санкциями, что бы "подсадить" Европу, а сами только наращивают в торговле с нами свой актив...
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 December 2015 17: 17 New
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    Oh, our poverty. And how cool it would be to ban the sale of our US engines.
  16. FINN74
    FINN74 17 December 2015 17: 17 New
    -6
    without our engines to them .....
  17. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 17 December 2015 17: 18 New
    +1
    Americans are a pragmatic people, we need to be the same - less emotion, more work.
  18. universe1
    universe1 17 December 2015 17: 22 New
    0
    In this connection, a logical question arises - how and on what did they reach the moon?
    1. Infinity
      Infinity 17 December 2015 20: 24 New
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      F-1 is outdated (does not meet modern safety requirements) and is too expensive. Yes, and von Braun worked on it, although a former Nazi, but a genius (by the way, he didn’t burn drawings of his designs on the orders of the SS, but handed them over to the United States, which is also worth noting).
      And the creation of engines also takes time ... and money laughing
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 December 2015 17: 22 New
    +3
    Americans buy a reliable RD-180 for $ 12 million.
    Starting Atlas-5 is cheap.
    1. zennon
      zennon 17 December 2015 18: 35 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Americans buy a reliable RD-180 for $ 12 million.
      Starting Atlas-5 is cheap.

      Not so bold. For $ 9, but not too sick.
  20. tyras85
    tyras85 17 December 2015 17: 27 New
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    Продавать-и раскрывать технологии, нашей СТРАТЕГИЧЕСКОЙ составляющей-считаю ПРЕДАТЕЛЬСТВОМ!!! Пусть строят движки сами. НАШИ ДВИГАТЕЛИ-ЭТО Наше Российское. Хрена ,вам, "коллеги". Враги открытые... Решим проблемы, тогда,когда УНИЧТОЖИМ МИРОВУЮ ОСЬ ЗЛА- США с карты Земли! Ястреб. Летчик-снайпер. Помню, как они хихикали в Камбодже за "бесценок" наших вылетов....Нам платили 1800$.Им 7000-8000$."Летайте-дураки-самоубийцы"!!! И мы ....летали.Не в $ счастье...CОВЕСТЬ И ЧЕСТЬ-ЗНАЕТЕЛИ...
  21. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 17 December 2015 17: 30 New
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    Quote: tyras85
    Продавать-и раскрывать технологии, нашей СТРАТЕГИЧЕСКОЙ составляющей-считаю ПРЕДАТЕЛЬСТВОМ!!! Пусть строят движки сами. НАШИ ДВИГАТЕЛИ-ЭТО Наше Российское. Хрена ,вам, "коллеги". Враги открытые... Решим проблемы, тогда,когда УНИЧТОЖИМ МИРОВУЮ ОСЬ ЗЛА- США с карты Земли! Ястреб. Летчик-снайпер. Помню, как они хихикали в Камбодже за "бесценок" наших вылетов....Нам платили 1800$.Им 7000-8000$."Летайте-дураки-самоубийцы"!!! И мы ....летали.Не в $ счастье...CОВЕСТЬ И ЧЕСТЬ-ЗНАЕТЕЛИ...

    And no one sells technology, much less discloses (there is such a know-how thing) Yes, and where does Cambodia ???
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 17 December 2015 17: 34 New
      +1
      The Americans conducted a full cycle of certification tests of the Russian engine at their stands and at real launches. We were satisfied. On September 27, 2002, a license agreement was signed to export to the United States a full set of design, technological and test documentation for the RD-180 engine.

      http://www.rg.ru/2015/01/20/dvigateli.html
      Long ago passed
    2. tyras85
      tyras85 17 December 2015 20: 07 New
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      Cambodia, because you are stupid! We flew for free, they laughed and saddled ... Not enough -momey /
    3. tyras85
      tyras85 17 December 2015 20: 07 New
      +1
      Cambodia, because you are stupid! We flew for free, they laughed and saddled ... Not enough -momey /
  22. individual
    individual 17 December 2015 17: 38 New
    +1
    Hm!
    They give us sanctions, we give them rocket engines.
  23. Gray 43
    Gray 43 17 December 2015 17: 40 New
    -3
    The question hung in the air, then how did they realize their lunar program before? Or still there was a pavilion in Hollywood, and not what kind of landing
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 17 December 2015 17: 41 New
      +5
      Look for Falcons, Minotaurs, Deltas, they have plenty of their engines wink
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2015 18: 52 New
      +3
      Everything was rockets and engines and landing and high-resolution photos of the landing https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/nov-19-1969-apollo-12-lunar-module-intrepid and the topic of flight simulation is already closed .
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 December 2015 19: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Gray 43
      The question hung in the air, then how did they realize their lunar program before?

      And didn’t it occur to you that there are tons of different rocket engines? After all, there is no one engine in the automotive industry for both the minicar and the truck! Our engine also occupies a niche in rocket science, and is highly appreciated by the Americans. Building your own from scratch is your own, it just makes no sense from an economic point of view - it’s cheaper to buy a ready-made one. Well, one should not forget that everything has the property of becoming obsolete, it won’t be forever super-duper, and work is underway to create new ones hi
  24. mamont5
    mamont5 17 December 2015 17: 47 New
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    "Конгресс США снимет запрет на закупку российских двигателей в 2016 г, это следует из законопроекта о бюджете ряда федеральных ведомств на следующий год"

    It is necessary that our State Duma does not approve the sale of Russian US engines in 2016.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2015 18: 55 New
      +1
      They will approve the supply of rocket engines, you can have no doubt how not to twist - this is money, and not small.
  25. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 17 December 2015 17: 53 New
    +1
    mattress is for you
  26. fa2998
    fa2998 17 December 2015 18: 04 New
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    Quote: Vikings
    And where do you go from a submarine! Of course you will be procured
    Fuck, our engines!

    А че Вы так радуетесь!Мы им хороший товар-они нам резаную зеленую бумагу!И еще до России не доедет-наше "мудрое"правительство опять купит ГКО США! hi
  27. Readme
    Readme 17 December 2015 19: 18 New
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    Quote: zennon
    Quote: Atrix
    I just can’t understand why Moscow wants to sell these engines.

    Видите ли тёзка,нам самим они не нужны.Россия производит их исключительно на экспорт.А стоят они не мало-около 9 000 000 дохлых ваших перзидентов.С учётом стоимости бочки нефти в 38$,это весьма не дурно.Мы ничего не добъёмся,если не будем их поставлять.В матрасии не мало своих носителей.Русское пихло мощнее на единицу массы,эфективнее,дешевле.Но обойтись без него матрасники смогут вполне.Могут на "Дельтах" запускать.Вполне нормальный носитель.Могут "Арианы" подключить.Да,дороже,но вполне возможно.Ведь обходилась америка своими силами до 1993-го года!А если мы откажем в поставках,то просто потеряем деньги.Зачем?Знаете,рынок легко потерять.Репутацию приобрести ох как не просто...
    What is no reason to punish Washington.

    And for what? How to motivate the refusal? To spite grandmother frostbite ears ?!

    it would be nice to sell engines for real gold, a piece of paper - this is a plus for them to play
  28. tyras85
    tyras85 17 December 2015 19: 51 New
    -3
    Что-жаба задавила?Ваши(-) до жопы! Правда ОДНА! Либо нам быть- либо "сотрут" как Ливию.Сегодня и впредь-поддерживаю ПРЕДУПРЕЖДАЮЩИЙ удар по туркам.Чем он будет МОЩНЕЙ,тем нас больше УВАЖАТЬ будут!
    И не Турки а их "пастухи".Америка НИКОГДА НЕ ПОЙДЕТ НА ОБМЕН ЯДЕРНЫМИ УДАРАМИ с Россией!Либо-она сотрется,либо проиграет на все 100%.Минусуйте-"глаголы".В Военной сфере ,ВЫ,как видно=0000.
    Education and experience allow me ... Demagogy in PM ... Ready for an equal dialogue.
  29. tyras85
    tyras85 17 December 2015 19: 59 New
    -1
    Minusers! No offense! You went to 3 letters !!! On H.y! Who fought, has a wound-understand! And these provocateurs .......
    DOG! (from the Families. I love you, you are friendlier than these bastards.)
  30. tyras85
    tyras85 17 December 2015 20: 22 New
    -1
    Камбоджа никому не интересна!Но мы летали там и нас убивали...Пехота...перестань пылить.Летали не за баксы а ради справедливости....А "остальное" не причем!???Воен лет -снайпер.Не обидчив.Но Под Дых Туркам дал так,что КАЛ ИЗ ЗАДНИЦЫ не один дохтор не собрал....Привет.Мужики! Мы едины-ДЕРЖАВОЙ,РОССИЕЙ.А (-)поставить-иметь "аналитику"дождевого червя!А по мне это = 0 Я полковник ВВС в отставке...
  31. afrikanez
    afrikanez 18 December 2015 00: 22 New
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    Well, if Congress so decided, then the price tag must somehow be reviewed in a big way. lol
  32. tyras85
    tyras85 18 December 2015 02: 42 New
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    С ВАШИМ ПРАЗДНИКОМ!!!! Уважаю ВАС,но не тупите...Писал о турках и как с ними "работать".Убивать и не чикаться....Иначе ПРОСРЕМ ВЕСЬ БЛИЖНИЙ ВОСТОК!!!А(-) ПРИВЕТ!НЕ для этого я на сайте ВО!Здесь не детсад,а много серьезно....Ну если "погонники"(звания такого нет)-ФЛАГ В РУКИ И МОЗГИ В ГОЛОВЫ.ЖЕЛАЮ ОТ ДУШИ!!!!
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  34. tyras85
    tyras85 25 December 2015 18: 03 New
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    I keep the captain's tunic of the USSR. The best title is CAPTAIN. (Alas, I drove). Photo 1995. Happy birthday, Stas Mikhalych! 19.12.63 I was 52 .... I drove another year ....
    Банили все,кому не хотелось! Смирнову В.-особый привет! Изменений не будет! Вам пора "Правила" пересмотреть" и ВЫБРОСИТЬ!