Japanese Mitsubishi began to build the American fighter F-35

In Nagoya, at one of the enterprises of the Japanese company Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, they began assembling the F-35A Lightning II fighter, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference portal N + 1.

It is noted that "the aircraft is assembled from ready-made parts: wing consoles, fuselage, tail unit." The car received the number "AX-5".

As reported edition Flightglobal“This is the fifth aircraft of this type, designed for Japan; the first four F-35A are currently being assembled at Lockheed Martin, an American company in Fort Worth, Texas. ”

This F-35A will be the second aircraft in the world that is not assembled in the United States. The first, as previously reported, was a fighter assembled in Italy (local designation - AL-1), which has already made its first flight.

The publication reminds that the contract for the purchase of 42's F-35A was concluded by Japan in the year 2012. 38 of the purchased vehicles will be assembled in Nagoya, “including installation, configuration and testing of avionics equipment”.

Comments

[Eaglealex]

Well, if Mitsubishi let out a start, I’m calm. As my friend says, he is engaged in automatic gearboxes: a woman without writing is better than a Mitsubishi car ...

[Terrible_L.]

look at the game of shadows, the shadow from the plane looks more beautiful than the plane itself)

[sgazeev]

Quote: Scary_L.

look at the game of shadows, the shadow from the plane looks more beautiful than the plane itself)

"Zero", did you forget to book your tanks?

[Reserve officer]

Alexander, why talk so derogatoryly about a serious company? By the way, during World War II, the Mitsubishi fighter was a very serious machine.

[cniza]

And how much are we talking about? will it be on an ongoing basis or only for yourself? we don’t know, but the company is very serious and the device can turn out better than the original.

[Extraneous]

Judging by the written: 43 in total.

[Sid.74]

Japanese Mitsubishi began to build the American fighter F-35

The Japanese just do not know yet ... what a pretty penny this "miracle" will cost them.

The work on the sixth-generation FX fighter plane was described by the British aerospace magazine Flight International as ruinous for the United States. The publication recalled that the Americans did not bring to mind the previous aircraft - F-35, the cost of work on which, according to unconfirmed reports, in 2016, will exceed 100 billions of dollars.

It is worth noting that experts estimate the cost of each instance of the "long-term" F-35 at about $ 110 million, and this is not the limit. Due to the steady rise in the cost of such projects, the Pentagon may generally refuse a new proposal from Northrop Grumman, the British magazine states.
See completely: http://politrussia.com/news/britanskoe-izdanie-istrebitel-485/

[quote]

Quote: Stock Officer

Alexander, why talk so derogatoryly about a serious company? By the way, during World War II, the Mitsubishi fighter was a very serious machine.

By the way, the gold, royal, gold, was the most "serious" currency THAT TIME.Only no, no chervontsy, no kings.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Reserve officer

By the way, during World War II, the Mitsubishi fighter was a very serious machine.

Yes, that's the same ... It would be cool if the Japanese called similar machines of their assembly "Rei-sen" or "Zero", so to speak, to continue the traditions of the legendary Mitsubishi A6M.
It is a pity that we will not see air battles between the American Lightnings and Japanese Zeros over the Pacific Ocean, as in the last war. Although ... who knows?

[voyaka uh]

In fact, they have solid experience in the production of military aircraft.

They licensed 139 F-15 fighters and 200 Sikorski helicopters for their Air Force.
And nothing - their cars fly, do not fall ...

[SRC P-15]

I wonder at what price do components come to Japan, as at the price of a finished aircraft? Then they will cost the Japanese a pretty penny, if you add here the assembly price. No wonder the plane received the number "AX" (if you add "uet" here).

[voyaka uh]

"Then they will cost the Japanese a pretty penny if you add the assembly price here." ///

Of course not. The production of components and assembly were distributed in different ways.
countries to significantly reduce the cost of the final product.
that is, the F-35 of its assembly will cost Japan less than that assembled in the United States.

Plus - "broth": in many countries new high-tech factories are opening,
tens of thousands of skilled jobs are being created.

[yuriy55]

Quote: voyaka uh

In fact, they have solid experience in the production of military aircraft.

They licensed 139 F-15 fighters and 200 Sikorski helicopters for their Air Force.
And nothing - their cars fly, do not fall ...

Sorry to interfere ... But the tasks of military aviation seemed to me differently. For instance:
Military aviation, being one of the most important types of troops, together with other latest military-technical means changes the nature of the battle and the nature of operations, allowing you to deliver deep, powerful, simultaneous or coordinated strikes from ground and sea forces. Aviation in tactical, operational cooperation with the army and land forces of the army or through independent actions achieves overall success.

The main goal of aviation:

the struggle for air supremacy, which is perceived as the destruction of enemy aircraft in the air and on the ground, the destruction of the material part, the destruction and destruction of airfields, aircraft factories and a database ...

Read more at: http://en.avia.pro/blog/osnovnoe-naznachenie-voennoy-aviacii

I think that over time, Americans can deliver atomic bombs to Japan (for assembly). Moreover, the residents of Japan were introduced to the general principles of action back in 1945 ... It will really be important there that these bombs flew and did not fall...

[quote]

Quote: voyaka uh

In fact, they have solid experience in the production of military aircraft.

They licensed 139 F-15 fighters and 200 Sikorski helicopters for their Air Force.
And nothing - their cars fly, do not fall ...

In total, the number for the intensity, flights. There is plenty of time for quality service, Plus a small "mileage". Well, we do not know the license conditions. How many Japanese and how many Stsashny.

Quote: voyaka uh

In fact, they have solid experience in the production of military aircraft

When was that? Well, "kill" me!

[Tor5]

Yes, let them collect, the same screwdriver assembly ....

[mirag2]

Well, they cherished it here, they cherished it both in Japan and in Norway.

[Extraneous]

And what do you want from the occupied countries?

[quote]

Quote: mirag2

Well, they cherished it here, they cherished it both in Japan and in Norway.

Are you out of admiration or perplexity?
Question: And if they start to collect them in Russia (nonsense), is it "cool" or bewilderment for you?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Tor5

Yes, let them collect, the same screwdriver assembly ....

In this case, the removal of the final assembly to Japan removes the burden from US factories and allows for faster rearmament of US allies.
The US plans to build for itself more than 2000 F-35s, the implementation of this contract will take decades, and so that NATO allies and friendly countries of the United States do not wait to take such a step. If I am not mistaken, a factory is also being built in Italy for the production of F-35.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

If I am not mistaken, a factory is also being built in Italy for the production of F-35.

Recently they wrote - the first one for the Italian Air Force has already been released.

[ABVGDEZH]

I don’t agree about the machines. I have Out XL - a trouble-free car.

[doework]

It’s not worth talking about Japanese industry. It is 2 heads better and more effective than any CIS-VSA. And automatic transmission is not an indicator of the level of industry, the best indicator is that half of the country travels in Japanese!

[volodimer]

yeah, there is no better female pisi than a car ..., no better great than a Mitsubishi "...", There are such rhymes in the Far East, despite the fact that cars of this brand are highly respected. Undoubtedly, the firm is worthy, but whether it will be able to fix the jambs of LM is the question. I'm afraid these are three nails in the coffin lid!

[mav1971]

Mitsubimi is a global concern.
More abruptly than any of our state arms corporations.

I highly recommend reading to those who judge the name only by cars or air conditioners ...

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries

273 place in the world in the list of largest companies.
Our technology companies are not even in 500 at all.
Respect the numbers.

[78bor1973]

I think it will be better in the Japa performance, but still "homosexual"!

[LEVIAFAN]

and most likely will be collected at their own expense.

[sir_obs]

It would be better to collect lego, more benefits

[Terrible_L.]

It would be better to collect Lego, more benefits

Origami colleague! This is Japan)

[sgazeev]

Quote: Scary_L.

It would be better to collect Lego, more benefits

Origami colleague! This is Japan)

Ikebana, half-heartedly half bent

[WE ARE MAKING]

Looking at the Japanese auto industry, we can say that for themselves, the Japanese f-35 will collect, as usual, better)

[NEXUS]

Quote: AGAIN

Looking at the Japanese auto industry, we can say that for themselves, the Japanese f-35 will collect, as usual, better)

Collecting a car and assembling a fighter plane are slightly different things. At the same time, the mattresses did not save the lighting from all the problems, which means that all the "equity holders" of this project will complete the F-35. And it is not a fact that it will work out quickly.

[spech]

So I do not understand

In Japan, created a prototype of the 5 generation fighter

For what ? or the owner said, we must take it.

[dchegrinec]

Even they are already assembling the F-35! And in parallel they will collect their copy! They live well! Japan suddenly decided to arm itself. China got scared of its eternal "partner".

[AdekvatNICK]

Roschen plans to start producing transformers and exoskeletons.

[sgazeev]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Roschen plans to start producing transformers and exoskeletons.

[AdekvatNICK]

don't be so serious.

[0255]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Roschen plans to start producing transformers and exoskeletons.

From STALKER

[quote]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Roschen plans to start producing transformers and exoskeletons.

Chocolate? And what is the filling?

[AdekvatNICK]

Georgian vanilla

[deputy ___ watered]

Well, the Japanese have long been arming an unsinkable aircraft carrier with an American presence in the region. They are his presence directly or indirectly finance.

[DMoroz]

the aircraft is assembled from prefabricated parts: wing consoles, fuselage, tail unit. ”

Did the Japanese get into screwdriver assembly?

[0255]

Quote: DMoroz

the aircraft is assembled from prefabricated parts: wing consoles, fuselage, tail unit. ”

Did the Japanese get into screwdriver assembly?

But nothing that Mitsubishi produce the F-15J under license?

And also a joint F-2 fighter with the USA?

And not only them.
Is this a screwdriver assembly too? Do you think in a developed country like Japan there are no modern robotic production lines?
Or would you just write a jingoistic comment and get a marshal in a week?

[user1212]

What does it have to do production F15 and F2 to assembly F35? In the article under discussion it is written in black and white "the plane is assembled from ready-made parts", which quite falls under the definition of "screwdriver assembly". Why are you so offended by the comment above? And do not worry so much about shoulder straps. Even if they give him out, they won't take you away.

[mav1971]

Quote: user1212

What does it have to do production F15 and F2 to assembly F35? In the article under discussion it is written in black and white "the plane is assembled from ready-made parts", which quite falls under the definition of "screwdriver assembly". Why are you so offended by the comment above? And do not worry so much about shoulder straps. Even if they give him out, they won't take you away.

For the Japanese Air Force, the level of localization of production of the F-35 will reach 40%. Which is more than a lot.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner - the share of production at Mitsubishi factories - 35% of the total aircraft.
Boeing 777 - 25%.
Boeing 767 - 15%.
Boeing 747 - wings.
For almost all Boeing doors and hatches - from Mitsubishi.
Bombardier - wings and parts of the fuselage.
A-380 - hatches and possibly doors.

Combat vehicles
F-2 - 60 aircraft built in full cycle.
F-15J - 200 full cycle aircraft.
140 phantoms - collected.
Hock family helicopters.
Patriot missiles make their modifications - at home. with partially its filling.
Tanks Type 10 and self-propelled guns Type 99.
Atago type destroyers - Burke level of the 3 modification. Built there.
Some of the best non-atomic substrates in the world are in the same place.

Much is being done in parallel with Kawasaki Heavy Industries.
The Japanese government is simply halving production orders.
As a result, both companies are at a very high level of development.

[Denis Obukhov]

trade brand: F-35 Mitsubishi Lancer.

[Dimon19661]

And where is our T-50 ???

[Vadim237]

He will not be released into the series soon - most likely they will wait for the appearance of a new engine of the second stage, and after the engine passes the tests, the mass production of 50 tons will begin.

[izya top]

Mitsubishi is a serious company, but there is hope that, like the Yankees, half of the components will be Chinese

[Gormenghast]

Even if cheaper than the US assembly, I still wonder how is voluntary this purchase. especially in the context of the ongoing occupation of Japan.

[mav1971]

Quote: Gormengast

Even if cheaper than the US assembly, I still wonder how is voluntary this purchase. especially in the context of the ongoing occupation of Japan.

Approximately 30-40% more expensive.
The price of the contract is 20 billion dollars.
But.
This is the cost of the aircraft.
The entire airfield infrastructure.
Everything related to the repair including equipment, spare parts for 20 years of operation.
Fuel for 20 years.
Spare engines and other spare parts for 20 years.
Pilot training for 20 years.

But the Japanese did it themselves.
Consciously and deliberately.
In addition to their 5 generation, they are developing on its basis something similar to 5 + and even 6 (which so far cannot be formulated) ...
Which they should appear in about 10-12 years.

[bad]

in vain laugh at the Japanese .. they just can solve many "childhood" diseases F-35 .. something about their "smart", hard work, and perseverance can be envied ..

[user1212]

Quote: bad

they just can solve many "childhood" diseases of f-35

Can not. The assembly is carried out from ready-made "kits". LM will not tolerate competition

[FINN74]

It would be better if they made cars.

[Nikolay71]

Quote: Stock Officer

Alexander, why talk so derogatoryly about a serious company? By the way, during World War II, the Mitsubishi fighter was a very serious machine.

I agree that the Zero is considered one of the best carrier-based fighters of the WWII. And at the beginning of the war he had no equal competitors at all. So, the Japanese assembly will probably be no worse than the American one.