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In Japan, created a prototype of the 5 generation fighter

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In Japan, a prototype model aircraft 5-th generation ATD-X Shinshin ("Soul"), its first flight is scheduled for early next year, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the resource Defense Aerospace.




According to the publication, “the fighter, whose length is 14,2 m, and the wingspan - 9,1 m, is equipped with two engines XF5-1, equipped with a system of all-view vector thrust control.”

It is reported that "work on a promising fighter was carried out at the Technical Design Institute of the Defense Ministry of Japan and it implemented several of the latest developments of military aircraft industry."

According to the information of the resource, “the aircraft is equipped with a fiber-optic remote control system with multiple redundant channels”, its stealth is achieved through the use of several technologies at once. The fighter has an “effective EW system and a unified information exchange system”.

However, the most important thing, Defense Aerospace writes, “ATD-X Shinshin implements the latest self-healing technology of flight control in case of damage to aerodynamic elements”, the essence of which is that “the on-board computer will be able to determine the resulting damage to the aircraft’s structure and correct the work of the remaining elements so to fully regain controllability fighter. "

It is emphasized that the software for the machine was “made from scratch, especially for ATD-X Shinshin.”

The cost of developing the newest aircraft was $ 325 million.
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  1. 0255
    0255 17 December 2015 14: 48 New
    +3
    It’s interesting what will come of them, will all his “filling” be Japanese? And will Obama make the Japanese fly on F-35, abandoning his fighter?
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 17 December 2015 14: 51 New
      13
      quickly bring the T-50 to mind
      1. Sultan Babai
        Sultan Babai 17 December 2015 22: 08 New
        0
        I agree. Against the 5th generation, a corresponding response of the 5th generation is needed.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 17 December 2015 14: 53 New
      +3
      This project since 2004 ...
      You can read here: http://topwar.ru/5585-yaponiya-postroit-sobstvennyy-istrebitel-pyatogo-pokoleniy
      a.html
    3. Temples
      Temples 17 December 2015 14: 53 New
      16
      This is a modest amount of development.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 December 2015 15: 35 New
        +1
        Temples

        In computer files, probably more. They did not even begin to organize production.
        1. Samaritan
          Samaritan 17 December 2015 15: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: gladcu2
          Temples

          In computer files, probably more. They did not even begin to organize production.

          Proceed:
          1. Rader
            Rader 17 December 2015 19: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Samaritan
            Quote: gladcu2
            Temples

            In computer files, probably more. They did not even begin to organize production.

            Proceed:

            So this is a mock-up (full-size but mock-up) plastic, not a ready-made fighter, but not a prototype. laughing
        2. Grabberxnumx
          Grabberxnumx 17 December 2015 15: 50 New
          0
          Oh my God! The picture is good! I thought he came in with an open cap of the cockpit!
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 17 December 2015 17: 52 New
            0
            Takes off! Plastics can do a lot!
    4. vkl-47
      vkl-47 17 December 2015 15: 02 New
      0
      It’s interesting to see how it will recover from damage that rockets inflict on it. Or they rely on bullet wounds of an airplane. In a modern battle, the airplane either flies or falls. Apparently the Japanese like the song ... the tank is broken, the tail burns and the car flies on parole on one wing.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 17 December 2015 15: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Temples
        This is a modest amount of development.

        The figure is amazing. Either this is the inaccuracy of the author of the article and the annual budget was meant, but most likely we are talking about
        export modification of the multi-role fighter F-22 Raptor for Japan will be about $ 2,3 billion. This, according to Reuters, is said in the next letter sent to the Japanese embassy by the US Senate. Earlier, Washington predicted that the "Japanese" version of the fifth generation combat aircraft would cost about half as much - about a billion dollars.
        http://q99.it/2SKF8xp
        .
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 December 2015 15: 40 New
        +5
        vkl-47

        I am not a specialist, but it is assumed that not all missiles hit planes as a result of a direct hit. Most likely this is the case when they are fighting for survivability as a result of partial damage from a rocket that worked nearby. Especially software to lay in iron this business is not expensive.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 17 December 2015 16: 03 New
          -1
          This software is expensive to develop.
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 17 December 2015 16: 03 New
        +1
        F-15 was landing with a torn off plane, the case of its defeat by the P-60 was known, but the car returned to base, F / A-18 also sat down with gouged rocket nozzles.
      4. 0255
        0255 17 December 2015 16: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: vkl-47
        It’s interesting to see how it will recover from damage that rockets inflict on it. Or they rely on bullet wounds of an airplane. In a modern battle, the airplane either flies or falls. Apparently the Japanese like the song ... the tank is broken, the tail burns and the car flies on parole on one wing.

        And PAK FA after getting into it missiles will not have to be restored? laughing And where is such confidence that the Japanese will not be able to create their fifth generation fighter?
        1. vladimir_krm
          vladimir_krm 18 December 2015 21: 04 New
          -1
          Maybe it will. But they have no experience. If you do not recall the ancient Zero ...
          The Japanese are good at consumer goods. A bunch of robots for entertainment, and when Fukushima slammed, they asked the French for robots ...
          1. goblin xnumx
            goblin xnumx 20 December 2015 22: 15 New
            0
            your lack of information about aviation developments in Japan does not mean that yapov do not have them, and zero was not the worst airplane for its time
      5. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 17 December 2015 18: 48 New
        0
        He will not grow pieces of the skin for himself, but will neutralize the damage by making corrections to the control ...
    5. Akella
      Akella 17 December 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: 0255
      will all his "filling" be Japanese?

      Neither the 5th generation of fighters, nor their electronic filling will help the samurai. Do not see them the Kuril Islands!
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 17 December 2015 15: 55 New
        0
        What a small plane it turned out! 14m x 9m!
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 December 2015 16: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: 0255
      It’s interesting what will come of them, will all his “filling” be Japanese? And will Obama make the Japanese fly on F-35, abandoning his fighter?

      The Japanese began assembling the Lightning at home ... and the Japanese fighter will appear in the series (if it appears) in 5-10 years ...
    7. mav1971
      mav1971 17 December 2015 20: 22 New
      0
      Quote: 0255
      It’s interesting what will come of them, will all his “filling” be Japanese? And will Obama make the Japanese fly on F-35, abandoning his fighter?


      F-35 is replacing the old Phantom.
      To replace the F-15, a new samol is being made.
      The Raptors were not given to them - so they decided for themselves.
  2. Smoked
    Smoked 17 December 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    I thought he would still turn into OBSC, but then just a plane.
  3. yushch
    yushch 17 December 2015 14: 49 New
    +4
    Yes, from the Japanese, bad budget sawflies are obtained, only 325 million $. Is it a golden F35 case, in the literal sense of the word good
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 17 December 2015 14: 52 New
      +4
      That's why they started this project back in 2004, the USA refused to sell f22, and f35 wasn’t even mentioned ...
    2. 0255
      0255 17 December 2015 14: 53 New
      23
      Quote: yushch
      Yes, from the Japanese, bad budget sawflies are obtained, only 325 million $. Is it a golden F35 case, in the literal sense of the word good

      According to many comments on VO, any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - it is exclusively cut laughing
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 December 2015 15: 00 New
        11
        Quote: 0255
        According to many comments on VO, any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - it is exclusively cut

        It seems like people are writing experienced, thoroughly knowing all the subtleties of this action! wink
        1. quote
          quote 17 December 2015 15: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: 0255
          According to many comments on VO, any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - it is exclusively cut

          It seems like people are writing experienced, thoroughly knowing all the subtleties of this action! wink

          And moreover, not only in his own country! The KGB and IOS (external intelligence) are resting !!! All dispatches to the sofa!
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 17 December 2015 15: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Bayonet
          thoroughly knowing all the subtleties of this action

          Developed not one aircraft of the 5th generation, but some even the 6th. laughing
      2. kamil_tt
        kamil_tt 17 December 2015 15: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: 0255
        Quote: yushch
        Yes, from the Japanese, bad budget sawflies are obtained, only 325 million $. Is it a golden F35 case, in the literal sense of the word good

        According to many comments on VO, any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - it is exclusively cut laughing

        well, simply because everyone has information about foreign budgets, and their own - military secrets, for disclosure - a life sentence. competent scheme)
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 17 December 2015 20: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: kamil_tt
          Quote: 0255
          Quote: yushch
          Yes, from the Japanese, bad budget sawflies are obtained, only 325 million $. Is it a golden F35 case, in the literal sense of the word good

          According to many comments on VO, any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - it is exclusively cut laughing

          well, simply because everyone has information about foreign budgets, and their own - military secrets, for disclosure - a life sentence. competent scheme)


          Sometimes the value of our contracts for military equipment comes across in print.
          This is where you grab your head.
          At best, the cost is the same. that behind the hill.
          And sometimes much more expensive. :(
      3. Akella
        Akella 17 December 2015 15: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: 0255
        any creation of a new weapon is not in Russia - this is exclusively cut

        "Cut" wherever private (and even state) capitalism. In Cuba, there is definitely no “cut” of budget funds, and even less so in North Korea. There are "cuts" in China, but there are also executions for it.
  4. siberko
    siberko 17 December 2015 14: 49 New
    0
    How they all look alike these 5th generation aircraft, but our most beautiful
  5. Genur
    Genur 17 December 2015 14: 50 New
    +1
    Added work for our intelligence.
  6. mpzss
    mpzss 17 December 2015 14: 50 New
    +1
    let's see how it will fly!
  7. DenZ
    DenZ 17 December 2015 14: 51 New
    0
    ATD-X Shinshin implements the latest technology for self-healing flight control in case of damage to aerodynamic elements

    Directly some kind of transformer appears immediately. We will see what the Japanese composed, but for this damage you need to inflict (with a rocket from S-300/400), otherwise check. wink
    1. gleb0606
      gleb0606 17 December 2015 15: 05 New
      +2
      It seems to me that if you damage the C / 400/300 rocket, the computer will just have nothing to stop.
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 18 December 2015 07: 45 New
        0
        It seems to me that if you damage the C / 400/300 rocket, the computer will just have nothing to stop

        These were meant.
      2. The comment was deleted.
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 December 2015 14: 51 New
    0
    The Japanese also keep up with the latest trend in military aircraft! Well, it’s meritorious! We’ll see how they behave in a real battle. Maybe they will surprise you with what!
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 17 December 2015 14: 57 New
      +3
      The Japanese also keep up with the latest trend in military aircraft! Well, commendable! Let's see how they behave in real combat.Maybe they will surprise you with what!

      each pilot will have a white scarf in his pocket with a red circle in the center
    2. quote
      quote 17 December 2015 15: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: dchegrinec
      .Let's see how they behave in a real battle. Maybe they will surprise you with what!

      Tipun you for the whole "attic !!!!!
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 December 2015 15: 45 New
        +1
        quote

        Do not take close. Shkolota is about the Worthunder fly simulator, he says.
  9. P12P
    P12P 17 December 2015 14: 53 New
    0
    the price is too low for development from scratch, something is messed up in the article or the Japanese
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 17 December 2015 15: 01 New
      +2
      Nenado, the Japanese, like the Germans, are people with good descipline. They, like the Inas, used to be soldier the party said it is necessary, the people said we will build.
      1. quote
        quote 17 December 2015 15: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: 2s1122
        Nenado, the Japanese, like the Germans, are people with good descipline. They, like the Inas, used to be soldier the party said it is necessary, the people said we will build.

        The meaning is understandable a hundred "pounds." But, please, pay attention to the spelling, do not rush, we will read everything, but it is more pleasant when there are fewer errors. I saw the flag. I do not make any favors. I don’t put a minus. Good luck.
    2. RPG_
      RPG_ 17 December 2015 15: 38 New
      0
      This is the price of the layout :)
  10. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 17 December 2015 14: 53 New
    -2
    Go along the same path as ours along the T50
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 17 December 2015 14: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander 3
      go the same way

      Which way? what
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 December 2015 15: 47 New
        +2
        Vladimirets

        How what?

        "Our way to communism." No alternative.
  11. Evdokim
    Evdokim 17 December 2015 14: 54 New
    +2
    I wonder who has not yet built, or has not developed a 5th generation aircraft?
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 December 2015 14: 55 New
    0
    The dimension of the aircraft is promising. Type F 16. The United States will prevent successful export.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2015 15: 19 New
      +2
      The Japanese are not working for export, but for themselves. And against us.
    2. quote
      quote 17 December 2015 15: 32 New
      0
      Zaurbek (1) RU Today, 14:55

      The dimension of the aircraft is promising. Type F 16. The United States will prevent successful export.

      Bullshit !!! It was still the first flight! And already Export?
      The dimension of the aircraft is promising.
      Is this what miracles? Then let's "build" further: EW is not bad, so it will "roll"? To write (build) about avionics and thrust-weight ratio?
  13. alkur
    alkur 17 December 2015 14: 55 New
    -3
    “The aircraft is equipped with an optical fiber remote control system with multiple channel redundancy”

    What is it like? a drum with fiber optic cable is unwinding from the ground for remote control?
    1. dauria
      dauria 17 December 2015 15: 10 New
      +1
      a drum with fiber optic cable is unwinding from the ground for remote control?


      Remote systems are now called systems that do not have a direct mechanical connection (pipes, cables) from the control stick, pedals or throttle to actuators (power steering, rudders, etc.). If in a simple way, a joystick with wires or optics.
  14. bad
    bad 17 December 2015 14: 56 New
    +5
    a very serious car will be .. the Japanese are meticulous, and they will certainly complete their plane .. recourse
  15. shans2
    shans2 17 December 2015 14: 59 New
    +1
    It is from this project that the Chinese stole their 5th generation, there was a whole but a lot) the Chinese like did faster than the Japanese)
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 December 2015 15: 00 New
    -1
    You may notice that the wing area of ​​this aircraft does not look large in comparison with similar aircraft of the 5th generation. Accordingly, this should affect the lifting force and maximum lifting weight. Or it should be compensated by super powerful engines. It would be interesting to see the advanced features. And maybe it's a bluff?
    1. Altona
      Altona 17 December 2015 15: 20 New
      -2
      Quote: dchegrinec
      You may notice that the wing area of ​​this aircraft does not look large in comparison with similar aircraft of the 5th generation. Accordingly, this should affect the lifting force and maximum lifting weight.

      ----------------------
      And in general, the fuselage is ugly, the pilot's lamp without a rear view. Although the shape of the fuselage is close to traditional for this type of aircraft. It seems the nation is not stupid.
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 17 December 2015 17: 00 New
        -1
        and now, do pilots look back over their shoulders? - I think if the electronics do not see a threat from the rear hemisphere, then with current speeds turning your head will take more time than an attack
    2. RPG_
      RPG_ 17 December 2015 15: 42 New
      0
      The small size and, accordingly, the weight (in my opinion even less than the Mig 21) of two conventional engines is enough. Another thing is at what speed this aircraft will land.
  17. soroKING
    soroKING 17 December 2015 15: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Evdokim
    I wonder who has not yet built, or has not developed a 5th generation aircraft?

    Papua New Guinea wassat
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 17 December 2015 15: 11 New
      +2
      Somalia.
      But Ukraine can develop its 5th generation aircraft.
      It will be invisible in all spectra and frequency ranges.
      From five meters it will be impossible to determine what kind of miracle is in front of you.
      1. Altona
        Altona 17 December 2015 15: 22 New
        +3
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        But Ukraine can develop its 5th generation aircraft.

        -----------------
        Aha, Ukraine can do anything. But he doesn’t want to. Because Omeriga will bring F-35s and javelins ... laughing
  18. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 17 December 2015 15: 05 New
    -1
    ..Our will be with whom to mate ...
  19. Wiruz
    Wiruz 17 December 2015 15: 07 New
    +1
    The cost of developing the newest aircraft was $ 325 million.

    belay belay belay

    What's so cheap? Or did they work for food?
  20. imugn
    imugn 17 December 2015 15: 18 New
    0
    the latest technology for self-healing flight control in case of damage to aerodynamic elements

    It sounds beautiful, but in fact, some nonsense
    1. Captain green
      Captain green 17 December 2015 16: 34 New
      0
      In all these toys, the pilot does not sit at the helm, but at the joystick. So behind the "sounds beautiful" hides the fact that the system will compensate for a partial loss of controllability, IMHO ...
  21. NordUral
    NordUral 17 December 2015 15: 18 New
    +3
    This is how we have to work, quietly, without pompous hype and effectively. What I wish our design bureaus and factories. And especially to officials in the areas of work.
    I watched the video (there are a lot of them), something became sad.
    http://yandex.ru/video/search?text=ATD-X%20Shinshin&path=wizard&parent-reqid=145
    0354842864428-4378935653774048823283041-3-017&filmId=GLHqMROKUXI&redircnt=145035
    5414.1
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2015 15: 41 New
      +7
      Add for comparison.
      1. BABA SHURA
        BABA SHURA 17 December 2015 19: 07 New
        0
        And only one, not like everyone else ...
  22. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 17 December 2015 15: 21 New
    0
    The Americans have already pulled out a certain amount of them for the maintenance of their military contingent, what will happen with this development is questionable ... How will the "friends" behave? In general, in the absence of extraneous “help” from global benefactors, the Japanese have very great chances to build a good car. They can.
  23. spech
    spech 17 December 2015 15: 24 New
    0
    The cost of developing the newest aircraft was $ 325 million.

    For that kind of money? DO NOT BELIEVE! ©
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2015 15: 42 New
      0
      And they will break all the saws for their sawmills from the military-industrial complex.
  24. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 17 December 2015 15: 25 New
    0
    Soul ? Your soul is mine! laughing
  25. pavelty
    pavelty 17 December 2015 15: 29 New
    +1
    I think that the announced cost of the project suggests that a prototype or, if you like, a demonstration plane is more likely developed ... there, before a real aircraft accepted for service, there is still plowing and plowing
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2015 15: 43 New
      +1
      So they are directly and say that the prototype.
  26. kamil_tt
    kamil_tt 17 December 2015 15: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Bayonet
    thoroughly knowing all the subtleties of this action

    Developed not one aircraft of the 5th generation, but some even the 6th. laughing

    so, after all, most commentators are sincerely sure that they understand the problems of the military-industrial complex and aviation in particular, better than all foreign aircraft building companies combined, and that foreign analysts monitor their comments daily, extracting secret information from them.
  27. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 December 2015 15: 41 New
    -1
    And no one paid attention to the figure in the end of the article -325 million greenery. This is an airplane project. Well calculated. To a flying sample - as barefoot to the sky ...
    1. Captain green
      Captain green 17 December 2015 16: 21 New
      0
      Have you read the article? Or just a headline? "his first flight is scheduled for early next year" ...
  28. NIKNN
    NIKNN 17 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: imugn
    the latest technology for self-healing flight control in case of damage to aerodynamic elements

    It sounds beautiful, but in fact, some nonsense


    The control algorithm in the computer is changing. Something like, if the aileron was repelled, then the flaps are connected to the control. Sense to try to reach the base. Actually, this is a requirement for the 6th generation. They are trying to work in the future, but $ 325 million and even for the future ... belay
    Well now it’s clear with the amount, they will collect f35, then the technology is free.
  29. aviator1913
    aviator1913 17 December 2015 15: 42 New
    +2
    The Japanese are arming quietly, a neighbor in the form of China, a bad neighbor. One must be prepared for everything. Let's look at the plane when it is finished, one hundred pounds later they will sell to their allies in Southeast Asia.

    There will be such a cheap F-35. A good idea, especially considering the fact that the big F-35 in Japan will also be produced. Will mutually complement each other.
  30. R-mdc
    R-mdc 17 December 2015 15: 57 New
    +1
    Well, where would I go))))) .... They created a 5th generation fighter ... well)))) laughing Japan is a country after the defeat in the Second World War, which is forbidden to engage in military development and since then practically not having its own school of military jet aircraft suddenly created the 5th generation .... keep me seven))))) .... and why, for example, not China, which incidentally has more opportunities than Japan in this regard?)) In the world there are not many countries capable of creating and developing military aircraft at all .... and Japan is clearly not one of them - all the time fly all over american. If only they licked something, like the Chinese, and even then - China licked and it was of little use ... they cannot provide the required resource of engines. Here we need a whole scientific school with its own history, a lot of trial and error ... we need personnel, both labor and scientific, military technology - and then they built it once)))))
    1. Captain green
      Captain green 17 December 2015 16: 17 New
      0
      Does the Chinese space program surprise you, for example? How many years have they reached the landing of the lunar? Compared to the Union? And the Japanese traditionally have many promising developments. It's just that they get them out of their pocket at a precisely calculated moment in time. IMHO ...
      1. R-mdc
        R-mdc 17 December 2015 16: 52 New
        0
        And what can surprise the Chinese space program? it is essentially keeping up with the European ..... just the Union at one time together with the USA was wasting time on the "moon race" - whoever faster than a man landed and brought back to the moon ... and the machine didn’t cause any problems, then other goals were pursued, and then we generally went into the development of inhabited space stations. The Japanese are great in electronics and the automotive industry (but by the way, they don’t own the ideas of creating and developing such things - they know how to implement it well) - but for all this there must be well-formed industries and they have them! But there is no such industry as military aircraft industry as such ... we need a scientific backlog, such as ours, for example: Design Bureau Tupolev, Ilyushin, Kamov, Myasishchev, etc. ..... it takes decades (there are also dozens of amers years it took a tense struggle) ... but did Japan once? Yes, this can not be. By the way, even to take their auto industry - also has been developing steadily for decades .... but what is heard of Japan’s AT? can anyone see their 2,3,4 generation aircraft? fly all the time on American.
    2. doework
      doework 17 December 2015 16: 36 New
      +1
      ..and they have a good friend who will share technology, solutions, and school, of course, within their own benefit. And in a series (with good resource indicators) they will bring him out, I think, faster than the Chinese brothers! The engineering school at yap is good, patents and know-how are immeasurable ..
      there is no ban on military development!
      1. R-mdc
        R-mdc 17 December 2015 17: 07 New
        0
        they definitely have a “good” friend ..... but he is not so kind as to create another competitor in the arms market .... nothing personal - just business))))
  31. MolGro
    MolGro 17 December 2015 16: 12 New
    -4
    shit!! any vertical take-off shit!
    weight that the installation spends for vertical take-off - less fuel, rockets, electronics, etc.)
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 17 December 2015 17: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: MolGro
      shit!! any vertical take-off shit!
      weight that the installation spends for vertical take-off - less fuel, rockets, electronics, etc.)

      What fright F-35A "vertical"? request This is the main version of Lightning, the most massive.
  32. doework
    doework 17 December 2015 16: 32 New
    +1
    Well done, Japanese, pulling themselves up!
  33. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 17 December 2015 16: 49 New
    +2
    It is written about the novelty that is beautiful of course, and this, and this electronic warfare and the control program are already ready from scratch, for a device that has never even flown before, and the Japanese have no experience in designing and operating devices with an all-round deviation of the thrust vector, but everything is ready . Wishlist voiced as always, but what will happen is another question and not tomorrow.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 17 December 2015 20: 02 New
      0
      cherkas.oe

      Japan seems to be the leading country in the world in obtaining new structural materials. And this is already more than a 50% victory.
  34. Thompson
    Thompson 17 December 2015 17: 11 New
    0
    seems a little small. And what is his combat load?
  35. Thompson
    Thompson 17 December 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    Quote: MolGro
    shit!! any vertical take-off shit!
    weight that the installation spends for vertical take-off - less fuel, rockets, electronics, etc.)

    And where is it vertical ???
    1. kamil_tt
      kamil_tt 17 December 2015 19: 40 New
      0
      many do not even read the article to the end, they all have "not ours" shit, apparently great specialists in this ..
  36. ZAV69
    ZAV69 17 December 2015 17: 19 New
    +1
    Japan is slowly but surely recovering its sovereignty.
  37. A.Anatol
    A.Anatol 17 December 2015 17: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    This is a modest amount of development.

    Well this is for the picture of the 5th option
  38. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 17 December 2015 18: 51 New
    0
    Not a single 4-5 generation fighter has ever been in real combat conditions, so the question is how the "captured" electronics will behave ????