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Ukraine - Poland: friendship on the ground of NATO

Ukraine - Poland: friendship on the ground of NATO

During the visit of the Polish delegation led by President Andrzej Duda to Ukraine, the parties agreed to "restart the consultative advisory body between the countries at the highest level" and signed documents on the formation of a union under the auspices of NATO.

The leaders of the two countries also discussed the issues of "energy security" and agreed to open a credit line for 1 billion euros.

Poland is ready to develop cooperation in the military-industrial sector and joint military exercises, and also favors the presence of Ukraine at the North Atlantic Alliance summit in Warsaw in July 2016.

"Poland will be the host of the NATO summit in 2016, and I would very much like Ukraine to be present at this forum so that its presence is unequivocal. And I think this is a significant issue from the point of view of not only Polish-Ukrainian relations, but also the position of Ukraine in the field of security in our part of the world, "said President of Poland Andrzej Duda on December 15 at a press conference with President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko in Kiev.

In turn, Poroshenko said that Ukraine will take part in the military exercises "Shield" in Poland.

The Minister of National Defense of the Republic of Poland Antoni Macerevich and the head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak signed the Declaration on the further development of bilateral cooperation following the talks in Kiev on December 14.

“I want to state our readiness for joint exercises, which are already taking place in the framework of Polish-Canadian-American cooperation in Yavorov. We are striving to develop it further, as well as cooperation in the military-industrial sector,” said Matserevich.

Poltorak noted that "we received both political and logistical support."

In addition to Poland, Ukraine signed defense cooperation documents with the Baltic countries, which would also legitimize the receipt of military assistance from these NATO countries in the context of NATO’s reluctance to intervene in the Ukrainian crisis, and through Ukraine’s bilateral contacts with NATO countries.

Recall that in September 2014 of the year, an agreement was signed on the establishment of the multinational Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian brigade LitPolUkrbrig, which was signed by the heads of military departments of the 24 countries of July and is currently being formed.

Characteristically, these countries in the XIV-XVIII centuries were part of the "Rzepos Popolit".

It is assumed that LitPolUkrbrig will be used to participate in operations under the auspices of NATO, the EU and the UN. The main tasks of the brigade will be participation in international efforts to deepen regional military cooperation and create the basis for creating a special NATO combat group on the basis of the brigade. From Ukraine in the brigade will serve 545 military personnel, from Lithuania - 350, from Poland - to 3,5 thousand people.

Poland is becoming one of the important locations for NATO command and control centers, including the existing base of the NATO Corps in Szczecin. The decision to form the NATO Superfast Response Force in Eastern Europe was taken at the Cardiff Summit in September 2014.

It is significant that, in parallel with the visit of the Polish delegation, NATO began to introduce in Ukraine the practical stage of trust funds for logistics and medical rehabilitation in December of 2015.

During the talks in Kiev, the Central Banks of Ukraine and Poland agreed to open a credit line for 1 a billion euros, President Poroshenko said at a joint briefing with President Duda.

"Negotiations were held between the head of the National Bank of Ukraine, Mrs. Gontareva, and the head of the Polish bank, Mr. Belka, and agreements were reached - I was informed by the head of the National Bank about opening a credit line worth 4 billion zlotys, or 1 billion euros, which will certainly contribute to the trade turnover between Ukraine and Poland ", - said Petro Poroshenko to journalists.

In addition, Poroshenko said that the Polish government will provide Ukraine with 100 million euros to create joint checkpoints at the border. The relevant agreement was signed in September, but so far the issue has not been resolved in practical terms.

According to DW, economic disputes in bilateral relations have not yet been resolved. At a meeting with Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, the President of Poland called on him to step up the fight against corruption, “against which Polish businessmen often complain,” and called for solving the problem of returning VAT to Polish businessmen.

Along with this, less than a week after Vice President John Biden asked the President and Prime Minister of Ukraine to reconcile, "the hidden war between the teams of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and President Petro Poroshenko suddenly entered a public and comically acute stage," Bloomberg writes. "If this crisis continues to develop, another revolution could begin."

As Poroshenko reported, the issue of "energy security" was separately discussed at the talks with Duda and the Polish side. “I would like to thank the Polish side for creating all the conditions for the completion of the feasibility study for the construction of the interconnector,” Poroshenko said.

Duda also noted in Kiev that Poland opposes the political pipeline Nord Stream-2, bypassing Ukraine.

In the future, Ukraine is ready to buy from Poland up to 8 billion cubic meters. meters of gas after an interconnector is built between the gas transmission systems of the two countries, said Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk at a meeting with President Duda in Kiev on December 15.

This pipeline, which is part of the North-South Gas Corridor, is planned by the parties to be fully implemented in 2020.

Along with this, according to energy expert Yuri Korolchuk, Ukraine’s decision on the development of this project “will not bring benefit to Ukraine”. Ukraine will have to "pay for the construction of a gas pipeline worth 250 million dollars" and "overpay for gas, which it will then receive from Poland."

The main purpose of combining the Polish and Ukrainian gas transmission systems is to provide opportunities for increasing gas imports to Ukraine from Europe through Poland, as well as ensuring the storage capacity of European gas in Ukraine’s underground gas storage facilities, which is currently hampered by the non-modernized gas transportation systems and their insufficient capacity.

During a meeting in Kiev with President Duda, Yatsenyuk also said that Ukraine is ready to supply electricity to Poland from the Khmelnytsky Nuclear Power Plant (NPP).

Duda also spoke at a press conference after the talks, for the implementation of the Minsk agreements in full and for the restoration of Ukraine’s control over territories and borders in the Donbas and Crimea. The Polish president said that the European Union and other countries should not lift the sanctions against Russia until it fully implements the provisions of the Minsk agreements.

At the same time, unlike his previous statements, Polish President Duda stated that Warsaw does not intend to interfere in the work of the Norman quartet.

Along with this, it is significant that President Duda began his visit not from meetings with Ukrainian officials, but from a visit to the Polish military cemetery and memorial in Bykovnya, near Kiev, where the remains of thousands of repressed Polish soldiers are buried.

The political dissonance of relations between the two countries is the fact that in May President Poroshenko publicly promised the ex-President of Poland Komorowski to change the laws of Ukraine "On the legal status and honoring the memory of fighters for the independence of Ukraine in the twentieth century", which, however, remains unchanged.

Vladimir Matveyev, political expert.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 18 December 2015 06: 01
    Now, if anyone is interested, the video (in Russian) of the press conference of Poroshenko, Tusk and the dog of Juncker:
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 18 December 2015 06: 26
      Ukraine Poland:
      that the one that the other, cause a squeamish feeling ...
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 December 2015 06: 34
        Something Tusk reminds me of Erdogan!
        Isn't Tusk also dreaming about the revival of the Rzecz Pospolita?
        In any case, it is clearly "carried" there in secret dreams.
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 18 December 2015 07: 08
          Quote: Tatiana
          Something Tusk reminds me of Erdogan!
          Isn't Tusk also dreaming about the revival of the Rzecz Pospolita?
          In any case, it is clearly "carried" there in secret dreams.

          Poles imagined themselves to be a super power having the right of Godos equal to the owner laughing It’s funny. They were already howling to Hitler. History clearly shows how this ended. But pathos is more expensive than the brain. A parashkin. as always acts as a jackal Tabaki! And this is not new! Subjects who have forgotten their history always find themselves in the ditch of the world. Not by Trishka Kaftan.
          1. Minstrel
            Minstrel 18 December 2015 07: 32
            Quote: meriem1
            Poles imagined themselves to be a super power having the right of Godos equal to the owner

            Quote from "Polske Radio SA" from 26.10.2005/XNUMX/XNUMX:

            The journalist of Zhechpospolitaya, describing the reaction of Gerhard Schroeder in Reykjavik to the fact that smaller states dared to criticize his policy, writes that it resembled a bad memory words of Jacques Chirac that he said two and a half years ago to the countries of Central Europe (including Poland), who supported the US policy towards Iraq: "You have lost the opportunity to sit quietly."

            "They don't talk about love - everything is said about it." This is how she loves between gentlemen and slaves. laughing
          2. Same lech
            Same lech 18 December 2015 08: 26
            to-v-sluchae-voynyi-s-rossiey /

            Here read what the Polish military experts write about our armed forces ... a very interesting alignment.
            1. FIREMAN
              FIREMAN 18 December 2015 11: 06
              I got acquainted, so they themselves say:
              - What time period are we talking about? Is Russian capture of the Baltic countries a matter of hours or days?

              - This is a small gap. If there is no resistance or it turns out to be weak, with a modern level of mobility armored forces can take them in one day. From Pskov to Ventspils is less than 500 kilometers, to Tallinn, Riga or Vilnius - much less. Another thing is if the Russian army meets a worthy rebuff.

              If we take into account the time for a possible deployment of counteraction forces, then mobile units will go through this section in a day, and missiles will be hit at NATO military bases (the location of which is known, as well as what is in them), which will disorganize the possibility of rapid mobilization of forces. In addition, the surprise of the attack, the lack of information will not allow sprat-eaters to create any prepared defense. Part of the equipment and personnel will be transferred by aircraft, including to enemy airfields with their subsequent capture, communications centers and satellites of the NATO group in orbit (?) Are destroyed. At this time, sea routes for the delivery of weapons and other property by sea will be blocked. Consequently, NATO can only use nuclear weapons to counter the attacking forces in order to gain time for the deployment of forces and means, which is very problematic in a panic of the civilian population. My vision is not pretending to be correct.
              1. Aitvaras
                Aitvaras 18 December 2015 11: 14
                "it was smooth on paper ..."
    2. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 18 December 2015 06: 28
      ... Ukraine's decision to develop this project "will not benefit Ukraine ...
      - Ukraine was not lucky in life with a neighbor. So much grief was seized from Poland, plundering, troubles and humiliations. And the worst thing is that they have acquired a Polish character trait: hatred, arrogance and arrogance towards Russia. The Poles were constantly raking for this, but the "dear brothers" only now began to receive a decent answer to their tricks.
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      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 December 2015 07: 11
        The Poles, like the Americans, decided to invest huge amounts of money in Ukraine. Oh, for good reason!
        The cunning Americans and Germans did a good job on Duda!
        At first, the Poles took, instead of Russia, to support Ukraine with money. True, the Poles hope that this will be temporary and with great return for them.
        Secondly, Americans will fight in Ukraine also by the hands of Poles. (The Baltic states do not count due to their small numbers compared to the Poles.) War crimes in Ukraine Duda and Poroshenko will partially shift to themselves.
        Thirdlyarrogant Poles risk starting the 3 World War. Then the blame for starting a war with the United States is in fact also transferred to the Poles.

        But Dudu, apparently, from self-conceit, as they say, suffered - do not stop! Apparently, the Americans personally promised Dude "Speech of the Commonwealth." They will deceive the Poles, because the plans of the USA and Germany include a complete ELIMINATION in the EU of all national states and, accordingly, ELIMINATION of all interstate borders.Merkel will rule in the EU, or another American successor in her place. Could it be that the Americans promised this place ?!
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        2. bocsman
          bocsman 18 December 2015 07: 37
          Quote: Tatiana
          They will deceive the Poles, because the plans of the USA and Germany include a complete ELIMINATION in the EU of all national states and, accordingly, ELIMINATION of all interstate borders.

          The funny thing at the initial stage is that all these pseudo-democracies scream or scream about independence (self-independence). And for what !? Yes, to immediately abandon it for the sake of the EU and NATO! Yes, the overseas director does not bother with a variety of scenarios. And the goal, as we see, is to collect all the sheep in one herd and use them as intended. For wool and meat, well, and for bestiality, the same will fit!
        3. Same lech
          Same lech 18 December 2015 10: 04
          Could it be that the Americans promised this place ?!

          They will torture you and give up.
        4. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 18 December 2015 10: 45
          Quote: Tatiana
          The Poles, like the Americans, decided to invest huge amounts of money in Ukraine. Oh, for good reason!

          It’s for good reason)
          And they are trying to do it before the default. Out of a billion 100 million for the equipment of checkpoints, 250 million for the construction of a crossing for gas reverse and 650, apparently, for a part of the GTS with an underground gas storage, in order to eliminate the ukropitek from the possibility of tying gas from the former Ukrainian, but already "Polish" pipe. After that, Poland will begin to insist, loudest of all, that the construction of Nord Stream 2 is not advisable, since Poland is a reliable transit country.
          After the default, Ukrainians will not be able to give the Poles a lard for any, the assets of the GTS will go under the hammer for nothing. Allies
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 December 2015 14: 14
            And the Poles will give Ukraine a loan of 1 billion eurosthat, according to Poroshenko, supposedly will contribute to trade between Ukraine and Poland.
            Moreover, the default of Ukraine on the return of the debt of $ 3 mld to Russia for some reason does not bother the Poles.I wonder why?
            Earlier it was reported that the EU allocated Ukraine almost 100 million euros for the so-called. "Decentralization".
            As a result, according to analytical economist-financiers, all this money will actually be “consumed” and “cut” by the Poroshenko’s team with Yatsenyuk as it was before, and will also be spent on maintaining paramilitary power structures to preserve their own loved ones - Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and their Ko - in power in Ukraine.

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  2. izya top
    izya top 18 December 2015 06: 02
    "Poland will host NATO summit
    what laughing
    it is for us pshekiya-rzhach sentItrovaya, and for svidomitov-PANA
  3. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 December 2015 06: 06
    Have you discussed restitution?
    And then maybe the exercises will take place in Poland,
    former Lviv region of Ukraine.
  4. EvgNik
    EvgNik 18 December 2015 06: 14
    Poland hopes to bite off a piece of cake from Ukraine.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 December 2015 06: 31
      Poland hopes to bite off a piece of cake from Ukraine.
      This is unequivocal - and NOT small!
  5. knn54
    knn54 18 December 2015 06: 15
    -Poland opposes the Nord Stream-2 political gas pipeline ...
    It looks like Poland will "privatize" the GTS.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 18 December 2015 06: 26
      And not only the GTS but also NATO.

      The Poles are frank Russophobes and will ruin RUSSIA both in the economy and in politics ... such is the lodging ... our neighbor is ... a full bucket of feces.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 18 December 2015 10: 54
      Quote: knn54
      -Poland opposes the Nord Stream-2 political gas pipeline ...
      It looks like Poland will "privatize" the GTS.

      Early winter.
      Poroshenko gives the command: in order to undermine the Russian economy, block the gas pipeline.
      At night, the Minister of Defense bursts in:
      - Our border troops are defeated by the head, large cities were bombed, the enemy is already near Kiev!
      - Still, the Russians dared to attack us ...
      - These are not Russians, they are Germans!
  6. avvg
    avvg 18 December 2015 06: 16
    Stupid "Dill", do not know who else to lick in one place, to the evil Russian. To evil grandmother, I will frostbitten my ears.
  7. Name
    Name 18 December 2015 06: 21
    Greetings to all! Mommy my dear, that WE see and read: ... Poland will be the host of the NATO summit in 2016 year ...... And the Ruin there will participate recourse .. as an assistant in the service in accordance with the status.
    1. cap
      cap 18 December 2015 06: 59
      Take it higher. Here's the news from Fashington on 18.12.15/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      "The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution on the fight against the glorification of Nazism by a majority vote; Canada, Palau, USA and Ukraine voted against.
      The document submitted by Russia on the fight against the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance was supported by 133 UN member states (against 126 in November). Another 49 countries, including members of the European Union, abstained, reports TASS. "
      It looks like the slogan "To Berlin" will be in demand as in the 45th.
      The list of sixes is replenished. What we will do with Palau. I just can’t imagine.
      How such a state can be captured. Tactics au ..! wassat
      Republic of Palau - The country consists of 16 states. The head of the executive branch is the president, the legislature is the bicameral national legislative assembly (Senate and House of Delegates). an island nation associated with the United States in the Philippine Sea of ​​the Pacific Ocean, located 800 km east of the Philippines and north of Indonesia. The capital of the country is Ngerulmud (state of Melekeok).Consists of 328 islands with a total area of ​​458 km², It refers to Micronesia. According to the 2005 census, the country's population was about 19 people (in 907 - 2008 thousand, an estimate for July 20,9 - 2014).
      The Palau Archipelago consists of many small atolls formed on the tops of underwater volcanoes.
      That something like this. hi
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 December 2015 06: 22
    The Psheks are eyeing what else is left in Dill for privatization. Restitutions they are already preparing in full growth.
  9. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 18 December 2015 06: 30
    Pshekami out of the skin climb out, trying to make the pre-field of the Nata not themselves, as now, but kaklov. Clowns, clowns
  10. Neophyte
    Neophyte 18 December 2015 06: 37
    Psheks from happiness, scratching all places, reviving the Rzeczpospolita? Serfs returning to work on the Ukrainian black earth. The history of the Poles and their servants is repeated, although another option is possible: initiating a Ukrainian walk-field with Bandera gangs.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2015 06: 43
    The Poles are still courting Ukraine in pursuit of their own, far from commercial goals. As soon as Poland grabs its piece from the outskirts, the "friendship" will decline.
    on opening a credit line of 1 billion euros.

    Since when did Poland get rich? They either complain that the EU is depriving them at the expense of the Baltic states and other Young Europeans, then suddenly an extra billion has started up.
  12. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 18 December 2015 06: 46
    LitPolUkrbrig ... And where is LatviaEst? The Abyrvalgians divorced here, by their bollard through the lock.
  13. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 18 December 2015 06: 46
    According to the old memory of slaves, it was drawn to the old panams. Well, how to live without another yoke on the neck.
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    line of credit for 1 billion euros.

    Here's another denyuzhki under the "cut" rolled up. Whisper!
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    In addition, Poroshenko said that the Polish government will provide Ukraine with 100 million euros to create joint border checkpoints.

    Uh guys, what's up? And who will finish building the fence with Russia? "Unfinished is worse than undone." Finish building the fence, and only then all the forces for border crossings.
  14. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 18 December 2015 07: 02
    Return the Lviv region to Poland, then we'll see what kind of allies you are. laughing
  15. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 December 2015 07: 13
    Against the background of their irreconcilable differences, this friendship is sewn with white thread!
  16. Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 December 2015 09: 20
    Poles have nostalgia, but bite off a piece from Ukraine, you yourself will be to blame. I am sure my grandchildren (God grant) will return everything back. History is a cool science, and those who do not teach it are waiting for the evil guy at the crossing of the Styx.
  17. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 18 December 2015 09: 59
    Since the Middle Ages, Poland, Ukraine and Lithuania have common military traditions. They began in battles, such as at Grunwald in 1410 or near Orsha in 1514 Nezrya, a portrait of Prince Konstantin Ostrogsky, the commander of Lithuania in the battle of Orsha, he is in a place of honor in the gallery of portraits of princes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in the Royal Palace, in Vilnius. In Lithuania he has the title of rescuer of Lithuania.
  18. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 18 December 2015 10: 02
    Well, this is the same "friendship" as Turkey and Greece laughing They have there in NATO, in general, many "friends" have gathered laughing
  19. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 18 December 2015 10: 19
    These two friends (Poland and Ukraine) are more likely to gnaw their throats to each other than to be friends! Sooner or later, Poland will demand back its lands, lost after the Second World War, and then Katavasia will go ... They will remember everything: what was and was not.
  20. iouris
    iouris 18 December 2015 12: 29
    Not friendship, but service. The foreign policy of the Eastern European countries is strictly subordinated to the interests of one center. It objectively contradicts the fundamental interests of wide sections of the population, and in the long run is fraught with inter-war wars: the logic of Poland’s foreign and domestic policies is based on dominance in the region with the aim of making territorial and property claims against Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, Russia, Germany. For this reason, Medvedev alone came to Kaczynski’s funeral, even Saakashvili wasn’t allowed, detained in Italy.