Tatarstan’s parliament began to threaten Moscow to “recall the nineties”

Poorly hidden threats to the federal authorities ended the regular meeting of the Committee on Education, Culture, Science and National Issues of the Tatarstan Parliament in Kazan. The reason was the draft Concept of teaching Russian language and literature in general educational organizations of the Russian Federation, developed with the participation of the Russian Language Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the AS Russian State Institute of Russian Language. Pushkin.

According to the newspaper "Evening Kazan", the participants in the discussion stated that the concept destroys the national education in Russia, in connection with which mass unrest is possible in Tatarstan. According to the chairman of the Executive Committee of the World Congress of Tatars, Rinat Zakirov, the adoption of the concept “brings us back to the 90 years when people took to the streets in the thousands! This crowd, an unrestrained crowd - it demanded equality! .. Apparently, the authors of this concept absolutely do not understand the life of the regions, they have not studied well ... ”.

Meanwhile, according to the testimony of the same newspaper, the only example of a “wide public discussion” was the holding of a roundtable on November 9 in the State Council of Tatarstan. And the specific content of the appeals of the President and the Speaker of the Parliament of Tatarstan to the Speaker of the Federal Parliament on issues of linguistics remains a secret - they are not shown to journalists, not even to the majority of deputies.

“The most terrible point is“ It is necessary to create a unified state system of teaching the Russian language as non-native, implying compulsory education in basic subjects in Russian, combined with in-depth study of native languages ​​and cultures, ”said the chairman of the parliamentary committee Razil Valeev. - This is directly contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the law on languages ​​of the Russian Federation! Because it says that every citizen of the Russian Federation has the right to receive education in his native language! ”

Similar statements were also noted by other deputies, most of whom in the State Council of Tatarstan represent the interests of Tatar ethnocracy. The keynote of all recent appeals from Kazan to the federal center was poorly concealed blackmail by destabilizing the situation in the republic in the event of coercion to the implementation of federal federal legislative initiatives.

As reported by EADaily, despite the postponement that Moscow made for the year for Tatarstan on the execution of the federal law on the name of the republic’s top official, the Tatar ethnocracy is trying to push the exclusive right to the "President of Tatarstan". At the same time, in the schools of the republic, the general education of the Tatar language continues with the prohibition of learning Russian as a mother tongue, and at the federal level, with the help of the Tatarstan lobby, the State Duma of the Russian Federation blocks legislative initiatives to give the Russian language the status of a mother tongue. At the same time, the republic still does not make attempts to pay off the state debt (90,2 billion rubles), ranking fourth in the list of debtor regions of Russia.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

"At the same time, the republic still does not make attempts to pay off the state debt (90,2 billion rubles)."

Some kind of stupid addition, as if compared with a foreign country. Most of our regions have a debt.

[AdekvatNICK]

Now many people have problems with the state debt, in particular, the Krasnodar Territory is one of the most attractive for investments from abroad ... a debt of 147bn! second place after Moscow, last year debt jumped 60 percent !! salaries around the edge are delayed or cut back or not fully paid in half, and all sorts of gray schemes. This year it is planned to reduce by 2 percent already ridiculously.

[Temples]

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

And don’t go to your grandmother. In Soviet times, the rural population spoke their native language. No one forbade. Exact sciences in Russian. Someone needs this.

[cniza]

Again stuffing information that is not true, someone really wants to rock the boat.

[Rostov]

Quote: cniza

Again stuffing information that is not true,

There was an article on VO, "Women of Donbass are asking to protect them from arbitrariness in Taganrog," in which the author gave out information that was untrue about the administration of the Dmitriadovsky camp. One of the VO members of the forum, who is the head of the village administration, immediately wrote that the article contains an outright lie, everything is diametrically opposite. I posted footage from this camp. However, neither the author of the article, nor the administration of VO, not only did not issue an article refuting the previous one, but did not even apologize.

The question arises, why do such articles appear?

[Temples]

So for this and appear.
What would arrange a swing.
See how many indignant reviews below.
The admins of this site need visitors.
And such lies attract many.

So no one will apologize to you.

[Tatyana]

About Tatar separatist nationalism in Tatarstan has been heard for a long time. However, as with other titular nationalisms in other titular national administrative-territorial entities. Tatarstan saved the fact that Tatarstan did not have direct access to the border of the USSR and to the border of the Russian Federation saved in the 1990 years.

REFERENCE
The post "President of Tatarstan" was introduced on June 12, 1991. The first president of the republic was Mintimer Shaimiev, who was twice re-elected to this post in 1996 and 2001.
In the 2005 year, after the abolition of direct elections of regional leaders, Shaimiev was elected for the fourth presidential term as deputies of the State Council on the proposal of Russian President Vladimir Putin. At the beginning of 2010, he was replaced by Rustam Minnikhanov at this post.

In the same year, the renaming of the posts of heads of constituent entities of the Russian Federation, which were called presidents, began in Russia. At the time of adoption of the law presidential posts were in Buryatia, Bashkiria, Mari El, Tatarstan, Udmurtia, Chuvashia, Yakutia, Adygea, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria and Karachay-Cherkessia. By the end of 2013, the new name of the head of the republic was not legislatively fixed only in Bashkortostan and Tatarstan.

By the end of 2015 year Tatarstan remained the only subject of the federation that retained the position of "president".
http://prokazan.ru/news/view/106524

[Diana Ilyina]

So maybe ears are growing from here ?! Maybe the president of Tatarstan is afraid that he will be deprived of the presidential privileges ?!

From a press conference by Russian President Vladimir Putin:

In Tatarstan, they themselves must decide what the head of the region should be called, said Russian President Vladimir Putin during a large conference on December 17.

From January 1, the president of Tatarstan should cease to be called the president. This, according to the Tatarstan journalist, can hit the national feelings of the Tatars. Does the center insist on this renaming, the journalist asked.

“As they say in our country: even though you call a pot, just don’t put it in the stove,” Putin answered. “I don’t think it will hurt any national feelings,” he said.

As Putin recalled, it was an initiative of Chechnya that there should be one president in Russia. “It was the choice of the Chechen people, you decide there,” Putin said.

[MstislavHrabr]

It's not just about nat feelings. If the president is at the head, then there are ministers with a ministerial salary in the government ... In our region, we have a chairman of a culture committee with a salary several times lower than ministers of culture in some other regions. And also in other areas ... The salaries of officials by region often differ by an order of magnitude with the same amount of work ... It’s time to reform, but damn it not to rename the police to the police - there really is a lot of work ... (And legal and administrative.) And most importantly, not only in the name, but also in finance.
Governance must be brought in order not tomorrow, but yesterday ... But nat. the elites, unfortunately, disguising themselves as defenders of the people will always think how to fill their pockets, and not about the common good ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: MstislavHrabr

It is necessary to put the government in order not tomorrow, but already yesterday

That's it! Federal division has long been abolished. In one country, several presidents are absurd! And the substitution of benchmarks in domestic politics.

[Rarog]

It is high time to abolish all the national republics and rename them in the region with the name in the regional capital - Kazan, Ufa, etc. area. Is it really an example of the collapse of the Union in the republics, many of which were artificially created, as in the national plan (Belarus and Ukraine-Little Russia, whose population in the Republic of Ingushetia considered themselves to be the same Russian people as the majority of the inhabitants of the rest of Russia, not separating themselves from them), so in the territorial, taught nothing to anyone ?! The current powers that be periodically criticize the national policy of dividing the USSR into nat. republics while fully copying this policy in modern Russia. We will not begin to take effective measures now, we will get such that no one dreamed of in the near future.

[Black Colonel]

So for this and appear.
What would arrange a swing.
And what conclusion can be drawn about the "preferences" of the VO site administration?

[Black Colonel]

But I wonder who did not like my comment? Hey Anika warrior, answer me! Explain what's wrong here.

[little man]

unworthy of a "military" site

[Black Colonel]

So for this and appear.
What would arrange a swing.
And what conclusion can be drawn about the "preferences" of the VO site administration?
And which radish minus? What did not like my question? Come on out, Anika-warrior, show me your face ... It seems a weakling or a deserted Cossack.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Black Colonel

And which radish minus? What did not like my question? Come on out, Anika-warrior, show me your face ... It seems a weakling or a deserted Cossack.

This is just one of the disadvantages of the site. There is no way to recognize the minuser. I would suggest such a system - you can minus someone, but subject to the justification expressed in the comment (if you do not agree, tell me why). This is how to report a violation, you can report it but only by writing the reason.

You can not put a minus without justification. You can plus.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: _Vladislav_

You can plus.

Who cares? Can you imagine how many left posts with justifications will be?

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Vladimirets

Can you imagine how many left posts with justifications will be?

So that posts with justifications do not clog the ether, they can be sent to the person. So that the person to whom it is addressed knew why they slammed a minus. If necessary, you can always bring some kind of comment to the general discussion. But this, I repeat, will simply reduce the number of thoughtless minuses.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: _Vladislav_

they can be sent to the lich. So that the person to whom it is addressed knew why they slammed a minus

This is very cumbersome, and not necessary, IMHO. I am also minus, as you, from the fact that someone will come up with a stupid justification for the minus will not become easier, this is the position of everyone, why complicate it?

[Comrade Bender]

I think it will be enough if you see who is minasun and who is plus. Then everyone will be able to ask questions directly to the minusator and the plusator personally.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Comrade Bender

I think it will be enough if you see who is minasun and who is plus. Then everyone will be able to ask questions directly to the minusator and the plusator personally.

By the way I agree with you. Constructively

[Comrade Bender]

Judging by the fact that I was minuscule, someone really wants to maintain anonymity in evaluating the comments of others.

[the villain]

Quote: _Vladislav_

I would suggest such a system - you can minus anyone, but subject to the justification expressed in the comment

Fair.

[anfil]

The question arises, why do such articles appear?

I answer!

[mikh-korsakov]

As I understand it, in Tatarstan, in addition to the Tatars, Russians live. I did not understand whether this article should understand that the Tatar elite, using the Tatar language in schools, wants to relate to Russians in Tatarstan, as they relate to Russians in the Baltic states? But under our constitution, all nations have the right to study in their native language. We have a strange constitution. Let’s say Tatars, Russians, Chuvashs, Mari of both dialects live in the village. So in the village you need to build six schools?

[anfil]

He himself did not understand that they, according to the Constitution, want the basic sciences of physics, mathematics, chemistry, biology in the Tatar language?
Then we must first publish textbooks, who will finance.

Or, on the contrary, they are outraged that the Concept, which is only being discussed now, says - teaching the Russian language as non-native.

“The scariest item is

“It is necessary to create a unified state system of teaching the Russian language as non-native, presupposing compulsory instruction in basic subjects in Russian, combined with an in-depth study of native languages ​​and cultures, ”said Razil Valeev, chairman of the parliamentary committee. - This directly contradicts the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the law on the languages ​​of the Russian Federation! Because it says that any citizen of the Russian Federation has the right to receive education in his native language! ”

[Tatyana]

mikh-korsakov (1)
As I understand it, in Tatarstan, in addition to the Tatars, Russians live. I did not understand whether this article should understand that using the Tatar language in schools, does the Tatar elite want to treat Russians in Tatarstan in the same way they treat Russians in the Baltic states?

Yes, this article should be understood that certain representatives of the Tatar "elite" using the Tatar language in schools want to treat Russians in Tatarstan in the same way as they treat Russians in the Baltics.
Yes, a certain part of the Tatar national "elite" is driven by the APARTHEID policy towards the Russian and Russian-speaking population in Tatarstan, just like in the Baltic countries.
Yes, it’s “profitable” for someone in Tatarstan to shake up the political situation in the Russian Federation from within according to national - and religious too - grounds just like in Ukraine.
Guess for yourself 3 times — whose political scenario is this?

[the villain]

Quote: Tatiana

Guess for yourself 3 times — whose political scenario is this?

It is high time for the "scinarizdu" to start stirring up something like that on its territory, stirring up the blacks there, or someone else, stirring up the separatist sentiments of some states, but you can think of a lot of things in order to have something to do at home. God willing, and they will have neither the strength nor the time for the neighbors on the planet to shit

[vex]

I am sure that sooner or later Tatarstan will break out. The Tatars and Bashkirs in the vast majority are adequate people, educated, patriots. But they will not be left alone by nationalists and Western, Turkish, Islamic advisers, they will always be tempted against Russia and the Russian people. The situation was exactly the same in Ukraine and Belarus — the vast majority — lawyers, had nothing against Russia, but a well-organized and generously funded minority has achieved a turn from Russia over the years (the process has not yet been completed in Belarus).
I think that until the Russian people begin to unite around an attractive idea for everyone, we will lose friends and supporters. In the framework of capitalism, the problem cannot be solved in principle.

[avia1991]

Quote: vex

until the Russian people begin to unite around an attractive idea for everyone, we will lose friends and supporters. In the framework of capitalism, the problem cannot be solved in principle.

100500 "pluses"!
I agree completely

[Kurchan]

Do you think that if 70-80% of Tatars live in the village, then they have the right to build a school with a Tatar bias?

[gfs84]

As I understand it, in Tatarstan, in addition to the Tatars, Russians live. I did not understand whether this article should understand that the Tatar elite, using the Tatar language in schools, wants to relate to Russians in Tatarstan, as they relate to Russians in the Baltic states? But under our constitution, all nations have the right to study in their native language. We have a strange constitution. Let’s say Tatars, Russians, Chuvashs, Mari of both dialects live in the village. So in the village you need to build six schools?

In Tatarstan and Bashkiria (I won’t say for the rest of the republics I didn’t live there, but there are 19 and 12 years old, respectively) there is a subject Native language (there is also the culture and history of the Republic of Tatarstan and the Republic of Belarus, respectively) this subject is at least 5 academic hours in the Republic of Tatarstan in a week and besides Tatar you can’t choose any other language, regardless of your nationality (the politics you live in Tatarstan this time you should know the state language (there are two of them, like in Bashkiria).
In Bashkiria it is easier to choose, at least when a nephew was studying, you could choose between Tatar or Bashkir.
In Tatarstan, besides this year, after the ninth grade, the MANDATORY GIA in Tatar has been introduced.
Now we believe that, taking into account the order of the Ministry of Education on the study of two foreign languages, in the republics children should learn 4 languages ​​(Russian, national, two foreign languages), if they approve the proposal that the certification exam (USE / GIA) must be carried out by foreign language, then children without fail will have to take Russian / local / foreign language ....
a country of linguists, not natural and applied sciences ...

[Svist]

Dagestan abruptly ...

According to the census 2002 of the year, representatives of more than 120 nationalities belonging to different linguistic groups and practicing different religions live in Dagestan (C)

[anfil]

Quote: cniza

Again stuffing information that is not true, someone really wants to rock the boat.

There is a discussion of the Concept of teaching the Russian language and literature
in general educational organizations of the Russian Federation and the author is outraged that this is happening secretly

Meanwhile, according to the same newspaper, the only example of “wide public discussion” was the holding of a round table on November 27 in the State Council of Tatarstan. And the specific content of the appeals of the president and speaker of the Tatarstan parliament to the speaker of the federal parliament on linguistics it remains a secret - they are not shown to journalists, or even to most deputies.

The author does not like the concept item

4. Ways to solve the problems of teaching the Russian language and literature

<...> 9. It is necessary to create a unified state system of teaching Russian as a non-native language, which implies compulsory teaching of basic subjects in Russian in combination with in-depth study of native languages ​​and literatures.

Fully acquainted with the condemned Concept:http://profportal.sakha.gov.ru/news/prohodit-obsuzhdenie-kontsepts/

[Bath]

worked in a company from Ufa and the Bashkirs and Tatars good comrades and good workers article dull guano

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Vladimirets

Some kind of stupid addition, as if compared with a foreign country. Most of our regions have a debt.

The supplement is correct.
Colossal federal funds are flowing into Kazan (as well as into the republic), which the local budget is developing there. Money is provided to create conditions for the growth of economic potential. The subject should not be subsidized, in the end, the country's economy as a whole suffers from this. Money is given in order for you to invest it correctly in something that will bring you profit. Money has been pouring in for a long time, but there is no return. The question is where the money was spent.

Second question. It is impossible under any circumstances, the central government, back down to any subject in matters of privileged status before anyone. We have a multinational state. The system of inter-confessional relations (including the language system) is stable here, we should not be allowed to speculate on this. The state language is Russian. And to study something more in order to study Russian less is not right.

And for visitors from abroad in general (except for tourists) it is necessary to introduce the condition of staying in the country, and in public places to communicate with each other only in Russian.
We and Moscow already have so many newcomers to work. 5 people are standing with me at a bus stop (Uzbeks presumably), they are indoctrinating, they gathered to kill me, and I don’t even taste well.

in connection with which mass unrest is possible in Tatarstan.

Any uncoordinated actions of unrest - here it is necessary to pay attention to our security agencies, it does not matter whether it is disinfect or not. It is impossible under any circumstances to deny the possibility of interference in the internal state affairs of foreign intelligence with the aim of playing the national card.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: _Vladislav_

The supplement is correct.

The addition, I insist, is just stupid. It has nothing to do with the problem at hand in principle. And the words "at the same time" apparently mean that if there were no debt, then it would be possible to ignore this issue, and indeed the Russian language in Tatarstan could be banned?

[vic58]

Yes Yes! And send the Tatars to "sunny Magadan", just to study Japanese

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: vic58

And the Tatars set in "sunny Magadan"just for learning japanese

For reference. Magadan is really sunny. P.E. your quotation marks are inappropriate here.

[good7]

Are you absolutely right, or are you confused with the Turks unclear? But it is wrong one state language!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: good7

But this is wrong one state language!

What are you saying. Representatives of more than 180 nationalities (ethnic groups) live in Russia. 81% of the population of Russia are Russians. Russians are the titular nation, whether anyone likes it or not.

Article 68 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
1. The state language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian language.
2. Republics have the right to establish their state languages. In government bodies, local government bodies, state institutions of the republics, they are used along with the state language of the Russian Federation.
3. The Russian Federation guarantees to all its peoples the right to preserve their native language and create conditions for its study and development.

But to encroach on the unity of the state language is a dangerous excess. In Russia, they do not oppress anyone, they create all the conditions. So do not demand in excess of the possible.

[Cups]

Tatarstan is the only republic in which mixed marriages are all over, starting with Ivan the Terrible. Therefore, the one who is trying to rock this boat is ... well!

[avva2012]

You, him at the door, and he is at the window. Perhaps paranoia, but there are thoughts about the State Department.
The measure is not popular, but in Russia it is necessary to introduce the death penalty. And primarily for treason. And, then, again, the Aces will get sick, and the common people will disentangle.
And so, they’ll think ten times. It's about the survival of the country! Iron curtain, unreliable foreigners, out. Well, other measures.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Any uncoordinated actions of unrest - here it is necessary to pay attention to our security agencies, it does not matter whether it is disinfect or not. It is impossible under any circumstances to deny the possibility of interference in the internal state affairs of foreign intelligence with the aim of playing the national card.

The fact is that the local FSB Tatars or Russians bought by the Tatars. They look at nationalism through their fingers. And there are really problems with the language. For example, Bashkirs are forced to learn Tatar. It turns out that in addition to the native, they need to learn Russian and Tatar. Bashkirs are just leaving. In Russian kindergartens, too, they are forced to learn Tatar. At school, about the same. I agree that the Russians should know the Tatar people, but everything is also necessary in moderation.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

The fact is that the local FSB Tatars or Russians bought by the Tatars.

Far wrong you want to say. Local FSB Tatars? You probably confuse the regional department of the interior with the special service itself, the selection of which is not done at the place of residence. At the FSB, today you were hired, and tomorrow you were sent to where Makar calves did not drive.

Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

bought by Tatars.

Well, go try to buy the FSB (otherwise the state pays them a little), try, I'll see how you can do it.
Think at least about what you write.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Well, go try to buy the FSB (otherwise the state pays them a little), try, I'll see how you can do it.
Think at least about what you write.

Yes Easy. You need to interest only the tops and that's it. Nat there’s no speech, then all the rules for the center. And the fact that there is someone that says something. writes. holds conferences just like they don’t see everything.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

Yes Easy. You need to interest only the tops and that's it.

Well, that's great once it's so easy. Like two fingers on the asphalt, here you are. I wish you good luck in bribing and trying to interest, these very tops.

[avia1991]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Like two fingers on the asphalt, here you are.

Well, for sure - from the Office. Wow, what a nuisance!
Question: why should Pavel recruit someone from the FSB? He seems to be "all right with orientation" ..
In contrast to the "top" - whether republican, federal - it does not matter: everyone strives to get the maximum number of preferences for themselves, including playing on the national consciousness of "small" peoples.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Well, that's great once it's so easy. Like two fingers on the asphalt, here you are. I wish you good luck in bribing and trying to interest, these very tops.

Why do I need this. In fact of the Tatar nationalism, the FSB does not see. The violation of the rights of the Russian and other non-Tatar people in the educational sphere is also not seen. What are lay people?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: _Vladislav_

You probably confuse the district department of the interior with the special service itself, the selection of which is not done at the place of residence

When Nurgaliyev was the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Tatars in the police became many times more. Cronyism in their honor, can not be taken away.

[avia1991]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Well, go try to buy the FSB (otherwise the state pays them a little), try, I'll see how you can do it.

Wow, what self-confidence!
But what - there were no traitors in the ranks of valiant service?
And even being in the service .. it is not necessary to talk about money - it is quite possible to try for another "interest": a new position, "forgotten" past sins (everyone has a lot of dirt on the others!), Power, finally! With their sophisticated brains, you can think of a lot ..
Are you, for an hour, not from this Office that you defend so zealously? Do not be a prude: pod.onki are everywhere, and the famous "roof" does not guarantee from this!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: avia1991

Wow, what self-confidence!
But what - there were no traitors in the ranks of valiant service?

Yes there were of course what I mean. But this is more the exception than the rule. As I understand it, comrade, he tried to explain to me that this is systematic in our country. All stolen and all traitors, and corrupt, too, everything. It is unclear how we still exist.

[avia1991]

Quote: _Vladislav_

It is unclear how we still exist.

Frankly, this also surprises me: HOW DO WE LIVE?
Obviously, all thanks to that inner core of resilience to the vicissitudes of fate, and to life's troubles, which is inherent in Russians .. only along the way I remember the well-known saying: "Russians take a long time to harness ..." What this will result in is a big question.

Quote: _Vladislav_

As I understand it, comrade, he tried to explain to me that this is systematic in our country.

And I understand that he is quite soberly looking at the situation:

Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

You need to interest only the tops and that's it

I will add: it will be enough to interest one or two "top" leaders.
Of course, not all are corrupt, not all traitors .. but quite often there is another explanation: "Nothing personal - it's just business." That is - "it is more profitable for us to do so!" And the fact that morality is trampled underfoot, ordinary people suffer - and this, as a rule, is inevitable - "well, EVERY BUSINESS HAS ITS OWN COSTS." AND this is just the worst thing: when responsible officials do not perceive such actions as betrayal or corruption: "I am not doing anything bad!"

[machine]

Quote: Rusich not from Kiev

Quote: _Vladislav_

Any uncoordinated actions of unrest - here it is necessary to pay attention to our security agencies, it does not matter whether it is disinfect or not. It is impossible under any circumstances to deny the possibility of interference in the internal state affairs of foreign intelligence with the aim of playing the national card.

The fact is that the local FSB Tatars or Russians bought by the Tatars. They look at nationalism through their fingers. And there are really problems with the language. For example, Bashkirs are forced to learn Tatar. It turns out that in addition to the native, they need to learn Russian and Tatar. Bashkirs are just leaving. In Russian kindergartens, too, they are forced to learn Tatar. At school, about the same. I agree that the Russians should know the Tatar people, but everything is also necessary in moderation.

Bashkirian differs from Tatar only in that they use x in place c, in place c - s, etc. For example, in Tatar barasyn, = you go, in Bashkir barashyn, = you go. The same languages ​​can be said.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: _Vladislav_

We have a multinational state.

At 82% Russian? Syria in the title has the phrase Arab Republic, and in our place the word Russian is replaced by Russian. It's a shame that in their native country they pay more attention to small nations (with all due respect to them), and the titular nation is slowly being pushed in. And from above, slowly but surely. The recent example with the cut out fragment of Pushkov and the forbidden "Besogon" by Mikhalkov is extremely relevant. Imagine how much noise would have been if this non-commentator expressed a similar opinion about the Chechen or Tatar identity?
Two hands for equal rights for all peoples of Russia. But really for equal!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Two hands for equal rights for all peoples of Russia. But really for equal!

Constructively. In all directions. Your truth )

[gfs84]

Colossal federal funds are flowing into Kazan (as well as into the republic), which the local budget is developing there. Money is provided to create conditions for the growth of economic potential. The subject should not be subsidized, in the end, the country's economy as a whole suffers from this. Money is given in order for you to invest it correctly in something that will bring you profit. Money has been pouring in for a long time, but there is no return. The question is where the money was spent.

Have you looked at the list of donor regions for a long time?
That's what, and the economy in the Republic of Tatarstan is literate, the rent from oil production is systematically "smeared" in an even layer across all industries ...
The formation of regional debt is due to large infrastructure projects (celebration of the millennium of Kazan and Elabuga, the Universiade, the construction of the metro in Kazan - by the way, their federal budget is allocated much less than its counterparts in other millionaires) ...
By the way, a craze for the construction of ice arenas in the regions was implemented in the Republic of Tatarstan in the late nineties and early 15000s (now it is impossible to find a city / town / village with a population of more than XNUMX people in which there would be no modern sports complex).
The same can be seen in the defense factories, either the Kazan Helicopter Plant, or KAPO) named after S.P. Gorbunov, or the Zelenodolsky Plant named after A.M. Gorky, were unlawful unlike the same Saratov, Samara, etc. were not...
Remember what a powerful lobby manifests itself in the military-automotive sphere when pushing KAMAZ products (the same ever-memorable "Lynx" nee IVECO LMV and stillborn Shot) ...
Remember who was one of the main lobbyists to promote the law on the SEZ, and the fact that the largest such zone - Alabuga is located in Tatarstan ...
Tatarstan in this regard is far from Chechnya and therefore allows itself such behavior (with which I do not agree).

[Editor]

so no one is against learning the local language voluntarily, but not to the detriment of the state language of the Russian Federation.

[Editor]

so no one is against learning the local language voluntarily, but not to the detriment of the state language of the Russian Federation.

[corn]

Quote: sgazeev

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Did you remove the two words before the smile yourself or did you try the site?

[Truth]

... makes no attempt to pay off the state debt (90,2 billion rubles) ...

Hmm, public debt?! ...
My opinion as an economist (even worthless), the state debt of the region is something other than what the leaders and administrations of this region plundered ...
Other options seem to be not visible.

[Maxom75]

Well, in 1997. I went to Kazan, they brought local people along the way, they then barely spoke Russian. In Kazan, at a request to show the way to the plant, the locals said that they did not speak the language of the invaders. Now they say everything has become different, but apparently the rest is that the money will have to be accounted for and does not give rest.

[zloybond]

stuffing-not stuffing .... two drops is still not raining - if you read the author and customer of the article. The author on the bunk, the customer on the rack. the rest come on to build socialism on a single collective farm .... complete nonsense. Dzhemilev registered ice ax. It’s good to suck icicles, only spend time on loose yellow snow.

[Diana Ilyina]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

Nobody says that bad people live in Tatarstan! More precisely, there are bad people everywhere, in Russia, in Tatarstan, and in Germany, etc. This is not the point, the point is that the local "elite" can try on a wave of difficulties, playing the national card to try to bargain for more buns! And in the conditions of the declared war on us, it could end badly! Tell me what Nuland did on her trip across Russia, again brought cookies to someone or did she come to eat dumplings ?!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

there are bad people everywhere both in Russia and in Tatarstan

Is this Grandfather Freud’s reservation?

[Now we are free]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Tell me what Nuland did on a trip to Russia, again brought cookies to someone or came dumplings to eat ?!

Greetings Diana
Yeah, "Grandmother with klafelin pupils" and an eternally raised eyebrow would not hurt to send her on a sea tour with Russian sailors again ... They will quickly clear her brain and ... it is worth hushing up, tk. Tatarstan is not just a large and by no means a poor region, but also a region where national movements (not yet nationalistic) are strong. "Knyazki" always look in the direction where the subsidies come from, and if Federal subsidies are reduced, they begin to muddy the waters, passing it off as the notorious "Marches of Millions". Sponsors of such "National Maidans" will be found very quickly ... + Now it is possible that the "Friends of Russia" are playing the Pan-Turkism card, taking into account the current difficult relations with Turkey, from which they go to the ears of snickering "Knyazki" and young people who have not had time to form and get stronger "Gray matter".
It is time for the Kremlin to pay more attention to the regions and to restore order there. As I said earlier, we have now entered the ring against the heavyweight / s and it is difficult to agree to fight with the "World Hegemon" when you yourself have diphtheria ...

[Diana Ilyina]

Hello to you Iskander!

I absolutely agree with you! But in our country everything is quite complicated, it seems to me and our enemies will play on it! Nobody really knows which region and how much money is being poured, yes there is statistical data, but this is not the whole picture! Therefore, enemies can play on the greed of local elites, they say why in the Crimea and Chechnya they give, but they do not give us! In general, the problem of Russia is that we always try to please the national minorities at the expense of the Russians!

P.S. Now they will write me in nationalists!

[little man]

and in the Soviet Union it was. Nothing changes, therefore, let’s without revolutions, only evolution!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Now they will write me in nationalists!

So is it really bad to love your nation?

[sssla]

Quote: Now we are free

They will quickly clear her brain and

A good hint to all Adam ribs)))))

[kit-kat]

Why do you separate Tatarstan from Russia? This is a subject of the Russian Federation, still with some privileges. I hope that someday national fragmentation in our country will be abolished.

[Extraneous]

No one separates it.
This article is quite possibly based on facts. Do not forget that the Tatars and Turks belong to the same ethnic group - Turkic. The influence of the Turks there is especially strong. Turkish emissaries visited there several times a year.

[Black Colonel]

In the Russian Empire there were no national-territorial divisions, but there were provinces. Therefore, there was no ethnic unrest.

[Black Colonel]

More precisely, there are bad people everywhere, both in Russia, and in Tatarstan, and in Germany,
Actually, Tatarstan is a part of Russia.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Black Colonel

Actually, Tatarstan is a part of Russia.

Only politicians and the media call Tatarstan Tatarstan. And they do it intentionally. Substitution of concepts in action.

[Maxom75]

It was the local elites who did not allow to deal with Wahhabi mosques, and in Tatarstan whole villages and small towns became Wahhabi. They were specially kept. to blackmail Moscow with the threat of a new Caucasus, but in the center of the country.

[Gardamir]

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

That's right. Only substitute Ukraine for the word Tatarstan ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Gardamir

Only substitute Ukraine for the word Tatarstan ...

If Tataria had a common border with the West. would be a tougher scenario. Swing the boat, the initiative is globally in the enemy, because we respond to processes, and do not initiate them.

[Lexa-149]

No one said a bad word about the Tatars.
It seems to me that someone just wants to play a national card that has been lying around since the 90s, warm his hands on this and fill his pockets.
Some kind of Ukrainian Dzhemilev-Chubarov ...
Looks like someone misinterpreted the meaning of the bills and issued it to the media.

[Koshel2901]

People are normal everywhere, and the elite everywhere wants power and money more and more.

[Homo]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.

And no one talks about the Tatars, we are talking about the State Council of Tatarstan. As always, the "elite" muddies the waters.

[todaygoodday]

The article does not say that the Tatars .. uuu .. are really bad .. It is an attempt to isolate local, nationalist-minded elites. Of which, I believe that there is a majority.
And the fact that in the fall, winter, spring there will be attempts to undermine the situation in the country, by any means, has been said for a long time. The same truckers. In this case, the goal is the same, but the approach is different. As in the 90, provoke local people (Tatarstan, Bashkortostan and other national republics) into various riots, including by pushing through such laws.
Although, IMHO, anyone living in Russia is required to know Russian as a native. But here you need to read the text of the law itself, so far I can’t say anything about it.

[Al iv]

"Although, IMHO, anyone living in Russia is obliged to know Russian as a native." It is this thesis that is used in Tatarstan: Anyone living in Tatarstan must know Tatar as a native language, and they do this at the expense of the Russian language.

[todaygoodday]

Let them learn 2 language, and not one at the expense of the other. The key here is: at the expense. In addition, it is part of the country, not a separate one, therefore federal laws have priority. A must anyway.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: Al Iv

. This is the thesis used in Tatarstan: Anyone living in Tatarstan is required to know Tatar as a native. And they do this at the expense of the Russian language.

Let the parents choose the language for children to learn. 90% will choose the Russian language, since without it you can only work on the collective farm.

[Tor5]

By the way, it is curious for what purpose this article appeared here?

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Temples

Good people live in Tatarstan.

Undoubtedly, no attempt to deny these words. Like in Ukraine, by the way. But in any flock of sheep there is always a black sheep. And so it spoils the whole herd. Like a tar spoon spoils a barrel of honey.
I absolutely do not see the need to impose knowledge of the Russian language in Tatarstan. Let them learn from their textbooks at universities. Only these people will be removed from Russian society. Not knowing the state language, they will not be able to find work outside Tatarstan. Moreover, who will translate all educational literature from other languages ​​into Tatar. I have already seen this in Azerbaijan, in the 70s and 80s. Children studied in national classes, and after that they couldn’t even enter local institutions because of the banal lack of knowledge of Russian. Tatars step on the rake of Azerbaijanis, their blood brothers.

[little man]

and how can you not recall Yeltsin, "take as much sovereignty as you can eat it ..."

[sssla]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

And you do not mix ordinary people with idiots who earn money by rocking the boat !!!

[kenig1]

The presenter of the Tatarstan TV channel "TNV" Elmira Israfilova, who publicly called the Russian residents of the republic "occupiers" and promised anyone "to gnaw anyone's throat for their native Tatar language", continues to work at the TV company, IA REGNUM reports. Prior to that, both the TNV leadership and the republic's top officials promised to sort out the scandalous history and punish the magazine ..... TNV journalist Elmira Israfilova, who publicly called the Russians in this republic invaders and promised to "gnaw anyone's throat for the Tatar language." , promoted to producer.

[little man]

it's only the beginning...

[meriem1]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

That's it! Only We still did not have enough swara because of completely incomprehensible questions! Turks only need it. About the post title of the president or head of the republic, Putin said today that the law itself defines this republic!

[Asadullah]

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Not so much disinformation, but such a subtle intrigue of the split. I remember the times of the "walks", terrible corpses with a slit throat from ear to ear. This is how the first emissaries of the Bedouin kings ended their lives. Even complete criminals understood that they were trying to load the burden of the Islamization of the Tatars on them like a camel. But money is more expensive. Tatarstan is certainly a difficult region, but too proletarian, where nationalities have merged into one calloused fist. From if anyone can be provoked, so which village for a specific incident, with a preliminary swing, or in a small town. This is not possible in a large industrial center. But, there is a hole in the old woman, so I fully admit the vision of the corpses of new Islamic radicals dealing with the Tatar issue with a slit throat, from ear to ear.

[pupkin70]

Are not those good people who, with frightening intervals, drag (and condemn) RUSSIAN parents to court, and forcibly force their (RUSSIAN) children to learn Tatar, and in Tatar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And this time, the GDP will bend under the national leadership. Another question. And how many Tatars live directly in Tatarstan itself, I remember from some of the censuses there were a little more than 30%? RELATED IN RUSSIA, ONE MINORITY IS RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mealnik2005]

"Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who doesn't believe - go and see for yourself. "


A year ago, they also spoke about the Turks. And how did it end? The ban on teaching Russian - how will we talk with them in twenty years? In English? Seems like getting ready to separate

[Vend]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

Maybe so, it's just bullshit. And people in Russia live good everywhere. But if it's not a duck

Tatarstan’s parliament began to threaten Moscow to “recall the nineties”

Such threats can be answered, and so in Russia we can recall the policies of Ivan the Terrible. As they say, Russia has something to answer. The question is, is it necessary? And if color revolutions and provocations are ignited somewhere, someone needs to mean it

[Dr. Bormental]

Yeah ... I’m going to run the rope around my neck and drown - in my blood are Tatars, Westerners and Russians.

[avia1991]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.

Before judging, maybe it’s worth clarifying?
No one suggests indiscriminately accusing the Tatars of Russophobia. But this is not said!

Similar statements were made by other deputies, most of whom in the State Council of Tatarstan represent the interests of the Tatar ethnocracy. The leitmotif of all the recent appeals from Kazan to the federal center was poorly hidden blackmail by destabilizing the situation in the republic

Do you think this is impossible? Look at our "native" deputies: they are ready to lobby anything if it comes to their own wallet!
It is specifically about the actions of high-ranking republican officials. And here you can expect any surprises - remember the "Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people"?

[cdrt]

Well, yes, yeah, in the same Naberezhnye Chelny 15 years ago, the ratio of Russian-Tatars was somewhere around 60-40, now 70% are Tatars.
There are no interethnic problems, yeah

[tarks]

In Ukraine, good people also live.

[Denis Obukhov]

Salafis are badasses, they must be kicked out. Here is a stubborn infection! In the Caucasus they are burned with fire, so they spread to Tatarstan. They uproot them from here ... as indeed and always and everywhere in Russia.
Nobody takes away their language from the Tatars, much less their President. Those who want a war will receive it, and then the Russians will come and rebuild a new Kazan City for them, and the new Tatars will take the oath of allegiance to the President of Russia in their Instagrams. We've all seen this before, it's boring and boring. 400 years ago it was necessary to think about Independence, but now let them keep quiet. Union loves silence.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Now many people have problems with the state debt, in particular, the Krasnodar Territory is one of the most attractive for investments from abroad ... a debt of 147bn! second place after Moscow, last year debt jumped 60 percent !! salaries around the edge are delayed or cut back or not fully paid in half, and all sorts of gray schemes. This year it is planned to reduce by 2 percent already ridiculously.

Gently, you still said, colleague, about the Krasnodar Territory.
Apparently we are eemlyaki.

[BOB044]

from abroad ... debt of 147bn! second place after Moscow, last year at 6

And the name Moscow is accidentally with a small letter.

[KBR109]

Well, you're only big. And all the letters. It’s behind the third transport ring - NO LIFE.

[avdkrd]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Krasnodar Territory is one of the most attractive for investments from abroad ... a debt of 147bn.

Well, yes, the Krasnodar Territory has been so debated with the Olympics that it will now be in debt for a long time.

[alex-s]

With the Tatar language, Kazan schools are definitely overkill!
On the clock, more time is spent than on the main items, and the result is almost none! And how to call the head of the region - in general, on the drum! I like the "governor" more.

[Andrea]

Is Kazan again to take?

[Reserve officer]

In fact, Russian is the state language. Gentlemen from parliament, it seems, they forgot it? National traditions and customs, nobody touches the national language, all screams about this are pure lies and provocations. But to the gentlemen from these national, so-called elites, it is worth taking a closer look. Such a cheap self-PR clearly harms Russian statehood. If suddenly there was such an ardent love for teaching native languages ​​- give a teacher to school. And make room in the power structures for people who defend the interests of the country.

[alex-s]

Is Kazan again to take? what

And nobody is going to give her away!

[Garris199]

Gentlemen from national elites to learn Russian for eggs and bunks. They set up a freemen here, only the lazy one way or another did not kick the Russian language.

[dr. sem]

We’ll have to take Kazan and Astrakhan and the Siberian Khanate ...
Current in the XXI century is unlikely to be strong enough for everyone ...
People of any nationality are loyal to the authorities only when their life is at least tolerant.
And in the light of the rapid deterioration of the socio-economic situation in the Empire ...
We’ll have to rebuild everything, but under what conditions ... This is a question.

[Vend]

Quote: Andrea

Is Kazan again to take?

Crimea already taken

[Mareman Vasilich]

This is an occasion. The main goal is to destabilize the region. Ordinary people do not understand well that they will not be allowed to disturb, the situation is too serious now.

[doework]

Yes it - occasion! One more reason, and then it is a matter of technology (NGOs, oppositionists, "activists"), there are still Wahhabis there, and they are still riveted

[sgazeev]

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

This is an occasion. The main goal is to destabilize the region. Ordinary people do not understand well that they will not be allowed to disturb, the situation is too serious now.

The result of the reign of Shaimiev and YOBN.

[dr. sem]

Ordinary people understand the "law of the refrigerator" well, and the refrigerator quickly becomes empty.
Ordinary people "to the lantern" of the game of geopolitics ....

[Al iv]

For the refusal of Russians to learn the Tatar language, even children from schools were tried to expel! Schools are not Tatar, but ordinary. Such cases were in Kazan, Nizhnekamsk.

[little man]

and we, Russians, studied the Kazakh language in schools of the Soviet Kazakh republic, I - with pleasure. Any language develops memory, and the president at the conference said

[79807420129]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

You guys are now completely off topic with your revolutions.

Why not the topic, the topic itself. Someone rocking the boat as they say that they could not make a color revolution before, now they are rocking the national question on the Ukrainian model in all the republics of Russia, such as all the troubles from the Russians.

[BMP-2]

Yes, the rescuers of the "national drowning" at the boat station are quite loose ...

[kayman4]

I don’t understand what the hell my child should learn the language of the national minorities - they want to let their own language teach us why, moreover I will get together tomorrow and leave maybe

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: kayman4

I don’t understand what the hell my child should learn the language of the national minorities - they want to let their own language teach us why, moreover I will get together tomorrow and leave maybe

But for example, my colleague, there is no way out, in the village there is one serious school, what should I do? And it turns out that the child has two foreign languages, English and Adyghe, since the school is really normal, and the child is only in grade 5, and the perception allows him to study well. I do not want to say anything bad about the teachers from Adygea, on the contrary, I have not met more interested people, even in Russian literature, Adygea is generally an interesting republic, with all the minuses and shortcomings. But there are probably more advantages in the same education than in Tatarstan. One problem, recently the Republic has been diligently unbalanced by leaving Ingushetia and Chechnya.
I honestly wrote, colleagues.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

One problem, recently the Republic has been diligently unbalanced by leaving Ingushetia and Chechnya.

How does it happen that a handful of Chechens bend the locals? You seem to live next to the highlanders all your life, that you have not learned from them - one for all, all for one? Damn why so.

[Vladimir 1964]

How does it happen that a handful of Chechens bend the locals? You seem to live next to the highlanders all your life, that you have not learned from them - one for all, all for one? Damn why so.

Pasha, come to us at the resorts of the North Caucasus! We will certainly be glad to see you ..... suckers.

Pavel, do not be offended. To live in the Caucasus and rest there, things are very different.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Pasha, come to us at the resorts of the North Caucasus! We will certainly be glad to see you ..... suckers.

Pavel, do not be offended. To live in the Caucasus and rest there, things are very different.

Well, judging by the comments above the suckers, it’s just you, local residents. Which the Chechens have.
That is the question. You living your whole life in the Caucasus cannot unite and stand for each other. Even in Central Russia, young people are already standing next to each other, if Caucasians live nearby. To you that. life itself commands it.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: 79807420129

Why not the topic, the topic itself. Someone rocking the boat as they say that they could not make a color revolution before, now they are rocking the national question on the Ukrainian model in all the republics of Russia, such as all the troubles from the Russians.

Unfortunately, colleague, I have to agree with you. I myself grew up in Grozny and I remember the situation in Chechnya very well, before EBN, and after. Therefore, I am extremely serious about the "Tatar" issue, as a result of which, I absolutely agree with you about the "rocking of the boat." This is the most serious topic of the sovereignty of Russia as a POWER. To which, unfortunately, our executive authorities either do not pay attention, or deliberately, which of course is hard to believe, they close their eyes.

[Vikings]

Anxious, we’ll directly write a call to our address!
the integrity of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation!
not somewhere far away. This is happening at our place!
It is urgent to solve the dilemma. To stop all sorts of creeps
innovations, from the official party, of Russia in domestic politics!

[Akella]

Quote: Vladimirets

Some kind of stupid addition

Typical provocative stuffing. An article without attribution. Only a link to the source - an Internet resource. But there is no author there either. So it is: the work of the "fifth column".

[Homo]

Quote: Vladimirets

Some kind of stupid addition, as if compared with a foreign country.

And to separate yourself from Russia is not stupid behavior? Minus you!

[Foxtrot-krim]

And most importantly, the author is not specified.

[RUSS]

Never trusted the Tatars.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: RUSS

Never trusted the Tatars.

Well, with a cunning folk, but nonetheless normal men. But the Tatars really should not be trusted ....

[AdekvatNICK]

You guys are now completely off topic with your revolutions.

[justKyr]

Why are such nasty articles squeezing? ... even reading is unpleasant ....

[chunga-changa]

If you want to live pleasantly, do not read the Internet. Watch TV, is everything okay, or fine, from too much to too much.

[little man]

and don't read anything at all, otherwise, you know, "in a lot of wisdom - a lot of sadness .."

[sever.56]

Quote: Just Cyrus

Why are such nasty articles squeezing? ... even reading is unpleasant ....

This "disgusting article", as you say, signals that latent nationalism and separatism is AGAIN rearing its head in Tatarstan. Federal laws must be followed by everyone. And the ban on teaching Russian as a native language is a criminal offense, since it is discrimination on the basis of ethnicity.
It’s time to apply tough measures, that of the leadership of Tatarstan, that of other officials, clearly or implicitly supporting such dangerous nationalistic tendencies.
If this is not stopped in time, it can blaze so that "mama, do not cry."

[Temples]

It’s time to apply tough measures to the leadership of Tatarstan and to other officials

So will you respond to every delirium read?
Have you been to Tatarstan?

Who are you going to apply tough measures to?
Do you know these people, do you know what has been done in Tatarstan, how people live?

[sever.56]

Quote: Temples

So will you respond to every delirium read?

What is nonsense ??? What the author writes that the leadership of Tatarstan sabotaged federal laws? The fact that the head of Tatarstan wants to be only the president of Tatarstan, and he does not agree to anything less?

Quote: Temples

Have you been to Tatarstan?

I have not been to Tatarstan.

Quote: Temples

Who are you going to apply tough measures to?

To those who sabotage the implementation of federal laws, who in every way interferes and prohibits the study of the Russian language. To those who foment nationalist and separatist sentiments.

Quote: Temples

Do you know these people, do you know what has been done in Tatarstan, how people live?

Which "these"? Who are engaged in separatism and are trying to split the multinational society of Tatarstan?
I know that the economic indicators there are not bad and people live normally, which does not give the republic's leadership the right to "bend their fingers" and put their laws above federal ones.
And I respect the Tatars - a hardworking, cheerful, friendly people.

[Temples]

I have not been to Tatarstan.

More could not write.

[uralex]

Have you been to Tatarstan?

In 2011, I came to the competition in Kazan. During the day of moving around the city from the station to the hotel and the venue, I was stopped six times to check documents and even searched the base, just because I was of Slavic appearance!

[Al iv]

I am Russian and live in Tatarstan. I go to Kazan quite often, my relatives are there, and no one has ever checked my documents, much less a search with punching through the base! Maybe it's not in appearance, but in
Your style of behavior?

[Black Colonel]

in your style of behavior?
And strangers are always visible by their behavior, wherever they are, whether on foot or on horseback. In Rostov and the region, too, traffic police officers often slow down visitors for any checks of drivers with non-local numbers. Earlier in Rostov they slowed down on the basis of an unfastened seat belt - they were not fastened, which means they were not from Rostov, and even those living in the region could be pressed. And an acquaintance once very unflatteringly, to put it mildly, spoke about the Tatar, especially Kazan, traffic cops when he went there for the window and door aluminum profile (was engaged in the window and door business). So the small-town arrogant pseudo-patriotizim is everywhere, only he is in varying degrees of tyranny.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: uralex

In 2011, I came to the competition in Kazan. During the day of moving around the city from the station to the hotel and the venue, I was stopped six times to check documents and even searched the base, only because I was of Slavic appearance

That's bullshit . There, half of the police are Slavs.

[uralex]

That's bullshit

This is not my sick fantasy - this is a real case from life! Maybe it happened and there was some kind of operation, but the fact that in Kazan I checked the documents 6 times a day is a fact! Although in other areas of Tatarstan (there were more than a dozen times in Nizhnekamsk and Naberezhnye Chelny) - quite hospitable people!

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: uralex

This is not my sick fantasy - this is a real case from life! Maybe it coincided and there was some kind of operation,

Well, it most likely looked like a bandiuk who was looking for orientation. Just why invent nonsense about appearance.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: uralex

just because I am of Slavic appearance!

only if?

[APS]

If you take measures in time, then everything will be in order and they will not necessarily be tough. This article is a signal that we should take a closer look at all these screamers about national languages, and it would be more appropriate to treat them more strictly, and not to all residents of Tatarstan ...

[dr. sem]

"It's time to take tough measures, both against the leadership of Tatarstan, that against other officials ..."
Who needs the great purges of the 30s. last century needed?

[sever.56]

Quote: dr. sem

Who needs the great purges of the 30s. last century needed?

The one who wants Russia to be a single, prosperous, multinational state, and not wanting to see massacre, blood and ethnic strife on its land.

Quote: dr. sem

the great purges of the 30s. last century

What training manuals do you use? Give sources with the number of repressed (only non-Western and do not use links to our "liberal" media, such as "Echo of Moscow" and "Novaya Gazeta").

[dr. sem]

Actually, I'm a history teacher. He studied the history of his country in the archives.

[sgazeev]

At one time they rested against the autonomaries, gradually straightened their brains.

[EvgNik]

Quote: Just Cyrus

even reading is unpleasant ...

It’s unpleasant to read, look. And the fact that the guys from Tatarstan as a result of the abolition of the Russian language will remain without a higher Russian education - do you care? Where do they go? Or live only in Tatarstan, or ISIS (if it will still be submitted? And the explosive situation in Tatarstan has been brewing for several years. A good, hard-working people live there. But radical Islamism managed to take root. Something is very sorry. And advice on future: if the topic is not of interest, do not open it, and even more so do not comment.

[justKyr]

I live 40 km from Tatarstan .... and do not treat me about education.

[dchegrinec]

Turkey decided to set fire to Tatarstan? Well, both the rebels and Turkey would get it, they wouldn’t get angry better.

[dr. sem]

Neither one nor the other will receive ... Erase yourself, as you have wiped yourself off on Su 24. A disgrace.
In the "best case" they will do the same with Chechnya. They will give everything at the mercy of some clan and will pump budget bobs, robbing the inhabitants of "Russian, quiet" regions. Russian is very patient ...

[Mama_Cholli]

They want in the future not to understand the rest of the inhabitants of Russia?
Themselves on the street vryat would go. Someone from above skillfully guides "national sentiments".

[slaw14]

In the 90s, the majority of protesters on the streets were "Kazan citizens" from other regions of Tatarstan and Russia. Who ordered the columns of buses I think is not worth explaining.
The picture itself does not apply to the article and far from philology students.
The mention of a public debt makes one think that the author is not from Russia.
The study of the Tatar language in the schools of Tatarstan is mandatory and no one has canceled it. The significance of the problem in the article is exaggerated.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: slaw14

The study of the Tatar language in the schools of Tatarstan is mandatory and no one has canceled it. The significance of the problem in the article is exaggerated.

To study mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, geometry in Tatar means to make the whole region a herd of sheep that can only work as workers. If Tatars want to live uneducated, then why should Russians suffer from this?
Give parents a choice of what language they want to teach their children.

[flyer]

justKyr +100 !!! Inappropriate presentations and discussions!

[97110]

Quote: fly

justKyr +100 !!! Inappropriate presentations and discussions!

When will presentations and discussions be appropriate? When should tires be extinguished?

[justKyr]

let there be no tires! People live their own lives ... they have children and grandchildren who need to be taken care of ... Turkey went along with the igil ...

[97110]

Quote: Just Cyrus

People live their own lives ... they have children and grandchildren to take care of ...

Were you born after November 2013? Nothing happened during your life in Ukraine? Or did people not live their lives there, didn’t they have their children and grandchildren, whom they had to take care of? Where did the tires on Maidan come from, why did they catch fire? Do not understand until Nuland in Kazan begins to distribute buns?

[kit-kat]

National language - Russian. All others are optional, optional. This is how it should be. I think so.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

No not like this . Parents need to be given a choice. Who wants to, he learns in Russian. but the Tatar elective is required. Who wants to in Tatar, but with Russian on a par.

[kit-kat]

No, not on a par. Russian - state, I repeat. All documentation, all processes and so on are kept on it. And who needs Tatar? To complicate all relations and increase budget spending on duplication of documents? Not rational and stupid. No one is going to ban peoples' languages, but they must have the status of optional. And then all of them (Tatars, Chechens and other Dagestanis) are excellent students in the Russian language, judging by the Unified State Examination, but they cannot connect a couple of words.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

So ho.hly say the same. Mova is the state language. and the Russians go to the stump.

Tatars are not Slavs, and many of them, especially from villages, simply do not know Russian well because they speak Tatar. In Tatarstan, all documentation is in two languages, which is correct. Choose on which it is convenient for you to contact government agencies.
Tatars have the right to learn their own language, but only this should be at will. Parents themselves must bring the child to the Tatar or Russian school. Tatars must still necessarily learn Russian, and Russian Tatars are optional. It would be ideal to do everything in the same school.
Nationalities simply need to allocate quotas by language. in another way. We have a lot of scientists from nat. of the men who, during the USSR, entered higher educational institutions very poorly knowing Russian, but were well understood in physics, mathematics, for example.

[kit-kat]

No not like this. In Ukraine, residents of the eastern part want equal rights for the Russian language and the "Ukrainian language". And it turns out that in part of the territory there is discrimination of the state language in favor of a language that is useless to anyone, except for a small handful of nationalists. Which is practically not used. Can't you see the difference? These are not identical situations, although at first glance, they are very similar.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Why do you think that Tatars do not need Tatra language? Let the Tatars themselves decide whether they need it or not. Tatars can learn their language on a par with Russian, this is their right.

There is discrimination, but you propose to solve it by discrimination of the Tatar language. Let the parents choose whether they need the Tatar people on a par with the Russian or not.
The law is true. For example, in Mari-El it is impossible to enter a local university without knowing the Mariiski that frank nonsense. The guys just pay money and that's it.

[bad]

At the same time, public education of the Tatar language is continuing in the republic’s schools with a ban on teaching Russian as a mother tongue, and legislative initiatives to give the Russian language the status of a mother tongue are blocked at the federal level through the Tatarstan lobby in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. At the same time, the republic still does not make attempts to pay off the state debt (90,2 billion rubles), taking the fourth place in the list of debtor regions of Russia.

..and it smells of separatism already .. or the Turks or mattresses threw money to see .. where the FSB ... where is the prosecutor’s office? ..

[97110]

Quote: bad

where is the prosecutor?

It is justified.

[Koshel2901]

The Prosecutor’s Earn Money

[tarks]

Tatarstan is VERY long time ago being molested precisely with a view to kindling.
Russian language in education is optional.

[Ingvar 72]

In Yakutia, worse.

[Gormenghast]

Not in favor of Tatarstan and individual extremists, but we often have "educational figures"do all sorts of crap.

[LEVIAFAN]

nothing to comment at all. let politicians understand, otherwise it will begin now. but it’s better to remove the article altogether. now you need to be united.

[A-Sim]

It is not in vain that the question sounds: "... would you go with him on reconnaissance?"

You always need to know who is with you in the same trench.

[97110]

Quote: LEVIAFAN

let politicians understand

"Beware of being ignorant in politics and economics." Such a poster hung in the office of the economy. In 1989. Do not beware. They hoped for politicians.

[Corsair0304]

To begin with the elimination of such a post as "President of Tatarstan", continue with the adoption of a federal law on the compulsory study of the Russian language at school and optional - the national one. Reason: ALL federal regulations are published in Russian, as well as business correspondence. And in order to read the NLA, you must at least know the language in which it is written.
Want some unrest in the streets? Be sure - we will clean it. At the same time, all the shtetl leaders who allowed these unrest. And it seems that they stayed in warm places.
Something like that.

[padded jacket]

Another attempt by our Western partners to sow religious hatred in Russia.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: quilted jacket

sow religious hatred

In this case, the national one.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Vladimirets

In this case, the national

It may be more correct (there are still a lot of Orthodox Christians among the Tatars), but this "action" still takes place along the line of opposing Islam and Christianity, in the same way as it was done earlier in Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia.

[dr. sem]

"Want some unrest on the streets? Rest assured, we'll clean up."
A "clean up" the navel will not untie?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: dr. sem

A "clean up" the navel will not untie?

No. Because on the "street" will come out a marginal trash, which in Dagestan is safely shot. And ordinary Tatars are normal people, with their own national characteristics, to which the Russian people are accustomed for a long coexistence.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Gormengast

Not in favor of Tatarstan and individual extremists, but we often have "educational figures"do all sorts of crap.

They create and not only in Tatarstan. It has long been given to amend the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, but nobody needs this.
Moreover, the Council of Federations received a proposal to freeze (not to let) changes to the UK.RF, Code of Administrative Offenses, etc. .. Who is satisfied with this situation.

[uskrabut]

It will be interesting to teach higher mathematics, nuclear physics, colloid chemistry, descriptive geometry, economics and accounting in Tatar ... Will these specialists then be able to understand Russians and vice versa? One country - one state language, no one forbids national languages ​​- learn to develop! Someone has obviously worked with our Tatars, and obviously not for their benefit.

[sgazeev]

Quote: uskrabut

It will be interesting to teach higher mathematics, nuclear physics, colloid chemistry, descriptive geometry, economics and accounting in Tatar ... Will these specialists then be able to understand Russians and vice versa? One country - one state language, no one forbids national languages ​​- learn to develop! Someone has obviously worked with our Tatars, and obviously not for their benefit.

Muddy Kutak Bashi

[the villain]

Quote: sgazeev

Muddy Kutak Bashi

Confused, I think, penis heads, and bashs are underway.

[Stepan stepanovich]

Putin's press conference.
If, Rustam Minnikhanov will not have the opportunity to be called President of the Republic of Tatarstan that “It will be a blow to the Tatars around the world!” said the reporter girl.
She herself blurted out, or taught?

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Naturally, the workpiece was. I asked about the Turks for a reason.

[as150505]

Did Turkey have a hand in it?

[uskrabut]

It will be interesting to teach higher mathematics, nuclear physics, colloid chemistry, descriptive geometry, economics and accounting in Tatar ... Will these specialists then be able to understand Russians and vice versa? One country - one state language, no one forbids national languages ​​- learn to develop! Someone has obviously worked with our Tatars, and obviously not for their benefit. Question to the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - what do you get paid for?

[voronbel53]

Quote: uskrabut

It will be interesting to teach higher mathematics, nuclear physics, colloid chemistry, descriptive geometry, economics and accounting in Tatar.

I think, for this, the Tatar language will need to be invented, half of the words and expressions are not there, and where these words can be used, and who will invent them, is it a mullah or whoever is there? ..

[pavelty]

And who runs the Chechen Republic? Not the President of Chechnya by the hour? So why not in Tatarstan?

[Stepan stepanovich]

For hell, as they call it. Here is another:
“It will be a blow to the Tatars around the world!”

[Wiruz]

"Head of the Republic". Only the Russian Federation and ... Tatarstan ... for some reason ...

[nikowolf]

No offense, a friend, but the structure of his native state, you need to know. There is a president of the federation, and in the case of Tatarstan, then there is the president of the federal district, who, in turn, reports to the president of the federation. Something like this sounds. Sorry, I can’t write abstruse (as in official documents).

[Wiruz]

No offense, a friend, but the structure of his native state, you need to know. There is a president of the federation, and in the case of Tatarstan, then there is the president of the federal district, who, in turn, reports to the president of the federation. Something like this sounds. Sorry, I can’t write abstruse (as in official documents).

The smartest one? On, read http://president.tatarstan.ru/status.htm

[nikowolf]

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. The question is not about the abolition of the name, but it is proposed to correctly name the head of the federal district.

[little man]

in Chechnya - the head of the republic.

[Mountain shooter]

Tatarstan was excited for a reason. His Turks balamutyut. The population structure there is not very in favor of the Tatars. 53% of the population are Tatars. Will separatism be raised? Dust swallow torment. GDP is not EBN.

[2s1122]

Well, I understand if this is literature and writing in Tatar, but the exact sciences are in Russian, then the big half is probably foreign (English, Latin, Greek) how to conduct the subject?

[gingerbread man 59]

you have to be blind and deaf so as not to see what Turkey and Turkish NGOs did there and now oh yes ah

[Razvedka_Boem]

Provocations are apparently preparing, probing the soil .. But if they happen there, they won’t be almond with them, the situation is already complicated enough to allow muddy water there. And about how to call them the main Tatar .. R. Kadyrov has long said that the president should be alone.

[Roust]

"I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar, the guy is not simple.
I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar with a Russian soul ... "(from a song). The article is complete disinformation. We have nothing to share. We are one family.

[97110]

Quote: Roust

"I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar, the guy is not simple.
I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar with a Russian soul ... "(from a song). The article is complete disinformation. We have nothing to share. We are one family.

Have you heard that the family has a son-in-law and a mother-in-law? What in case of divorce do divorced spouses SHARE the property? Why are you pretending to be a jacket? Familiar Tatars still believe whose family was for Ivan the Terrible, whose - "for the yurt and the khan's throne." How many Muslims from Tatarstan have received education abroad over the years? How long does it take to scrape their Turkish underside until the Russian soul manifests itself? The example of Ukraine, where the absolute minority took the throat and led the country into the abyss for you not an example? Or an example to follow? Minus.

[Hello]

Quote: 97110

Familiar Tatars still believe whose family was for Ivan the Terrible, whose - "for the yurt and the khan's throne." How many Muslims from Tatarstan have received education abroad during these years of the government of the American people? How long does it take to scrape their Turkish underside until the Russian soul manifests itself? The example of Ukraine, where the absolute minority took the throat and led the country into the abyss is not an example for you? Or an example to follow? Minus.

Are you not ashamed to engage in incitement in your own country, against your own citizens? Or are you such a specialist in Tatar ethnic groups that you know about all their families and villages, who are for Grozny, who are for Kazan? the former president of the Russian Federation, who did not dry up by mistake, unleashed a bloody massacre in Chechnya, and opponents who were too proud highlanders with a national awl in his ass supported him. Do you want to repeat it?
I sincerely hope that the situation will be sorted out calmly and with cold mind. I don’t want a second Chechnya in the center of Russia

[97110]

Quote: Hello

Are you not ashamed to engage in incitement in your own country, against your own citizens? Or are you such a specialist in Tatar ethnic groups that you know about all their families and villages, who are for Grozny, who are for Kazan? You wave your sabers without remembering your recent history,

Are you inspired? This is a run over to my homeland, it is set on fire, to your pleasure. Therefore, I am not ashamed to demand action on American mercenaries and Turkish after-war. My comments have nothing to do with the Tatars as a nationality. You are not able to discern an attempt to blow up Russia with the Petlyura pogrom. Understand with yourself, with the Palestinians. Isn't that arousal of ethnic hatred? I do not demand your shame for the killing of their children, recognizing your right to wet them in their outhouses. And I’m not happy when they cut you with knives on the street. You do not need to remember about EBN. From the wake of the maxim, you will go straight to hell. Do not think that your fellow countrymen who determine Washington’s policies will protect Israel. To destroy their geopolitical rivals will donate, do not even hesitate.

[vobels]

Clan rule in Tatarstan continues. And there is an attempt to kindle the hearth, and it is clear to whom it is beneficial and for whose money. It is necessary to react clearly and immediately, so as not to create a rotting boil.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Someone is trying to foment a conflict in the very center of Russia, between the two largest nations of the country ...

[Koshel2901]

it always starts from the top-clean!

[Stas1]

Pavlentia - the fact is that there is no such concentration of strategically important high-tech enterprises in Chechnya. Therefore, measures in Tatarstan must be taken the toughest to the organizers of such performances. This is not separatism, this is international politics. In the 90s, Russia was left without electronics in the Baltic states, a lot of things were in Ukraine and Belarus - and Russia with a naked "w ... th" became "free". And now it looks like an attempt to organize destabilization in an industrially important center of the country. In general, if traitors gain the upper hand, as in the late 80s (hypothetically, after Putin left), it will be so.

[nikowolf]

It was simply a step in supporting Tatarstan, at one time. But I apologize, it was a mistake. Industry had to be developed throughout the country, and not in a single region. Then there would be no reason to worry. Now there is simply a swing in rights to sovereignty. But most likely people in power simply do not quite understand that they will not be deprived of anything, the name of the post will simply change.

[Stas1]

Well, what's done is done. And 99% of the inhabitants of Tatarstan (as well as other regions of Russia) live with children, work and similar earthly concerns. To rip out the sting of a few percent of permanent nationalist revolutionaries (under the banner of religion or "democracy" is not important, because the sources of funding for their politically active lives are often the same) is a completely feasible task.

[pavelty]

Yes, I got excited, really Kadyrov - Head of the Chechen Republic

[trophy]

Delirium is excellent. And how do these champions of the Tatar language see further higher education for their Tatar-speaking children. I understand that what is happening has 2 interpretations: madrasah is the ultimate dream or a deliberate policy to fool the locals. Generally speaking, a handful of different small-town presidents on the territory of Russia is a direct path to interethnic conflicts. It's time to stop the game with "Take as much sovereignty as you like". An empire and no federations, a general of the governorship and not all sorts of loose republics on ethnic, religious, primary sexual or sexual orientation grounds. The time is not right now overboard. And the native languages, yes, as much as possible in an optional order, even if Martian but not to the detriment of the state.

[97110]

Quote: Trofim

these advocates of the Tatar language see further

encouragement from the hands of Nuland. Advance is promised, and some people received it, IMHO. And with all the "one-family" with the Tatar people, the performance of these must be stopped. Only not by the traffic police and non-publication of articles in the media. The majority of the population must be roused to resist the American hirelings. I'm only afraid that we have lifters ... Well, they will offer a fine of 500 rubles. for using the Tatar language while driving ... The word is stronger than a bullet - we were taught that way. Are there dear people in Tatarstan who can stop this most dangerous outrage? Or we will sit silently, we will not publish anything even on VO, we will wait until they get together and cover with art.

[Aleksey888]

The eternal problem of the greed of our government. They look at these things through their fingers (it will resolve itself). And foreigners invest in our opposition. As a result, here .... The FSB is napping.

[Arkan]

Nationalists always earn their authority on provocations; Crimean Tatars are the clearest example of this.

[natakor1949]

First: the President in the country should be only one. Second: too much Tatarstan has recently become dependent on Turkey, it has long been noticeable. Third: the feeling that Minnikhanov began to see himself as a sultan also must be more modest. Fourth: according to Russian Legislation, the main language of the State is RUSSIAN + regional. In Crimea, the Tatars failed to raise the enemies of Russia, so they decided to ruin Tatarstan. Oh well.

[Sultan Babai]

Madhouse, I am a Tatar, I live in Tatarstan and here no one is going to fight for the nationalist idea ... people work in factories and are not going to organize revolutions. But the stench comes from those who would be desirable to test for extremism, really check. It’s no secret that some came to power from crime, I think it’s time to deal with them with completely legal methods. In our Republic, for example, some openly cuss on the law - the deputy mayor of a small town openly holds the post of general director of a commercial enterprise. Here to remove them and no extremism.

[dr. sem]

The fact that YOU are a good, quiet, working Tatar is great !!!
And in Hochland, who made the mess? What are "good hardworking Ukrainians, descendants of the ukrovs? No. A bunch of brutalized Natsiks reshaped the entire face of Ukraine, and the" hardworking "worked and did not get involved in anything, and now all ukram are crappy ...

[question]

Something is not clear where the wind is blowing. My son serves with the Tatars, everything is fine!
And this shellup decided to pit them?!?
Do we have an article on ethnic hatred canceled?,.

[DobryAAH]

This will continue as long as there is sushi-pusi with the West and their henchmen in the BV.

[LEVIAFAN]

Quote: 97110

Quote: LEVIAFAN

let politicians understand

"Beware of being ignorant in politics and economics." Such a poster hung in the office of the economy. In 1989. Do not beware. They hoped for politicians.

By your logic, are you typing a message that affects politics? on the one hand, of course. you can offend someone. and that’s it. This article is evil. you can write that somewhere two Karelians (for example) beat a Russian. and rush. it’s very bad when people far from politics begin to write reposts in such articles.

[97110]

Quote: LEVIAFAN

By your logic, are you typing a message that affects politics?

Do not impose the logic of the little man on me. I know that a smart word, including a printed one, can prevent the build-up of tension and even speech. I know that the silence of respected people who are "not politicians" gives free rein to the enemies to fool the heads of the youth, first of all. Look west. There you reap the benefits of your logic. Every cricket knew his six. And now there is no six.

[JonnyT]

nonsense))) simple Tatars themselves lynch these "fighters for culture".

[SMS]

Megalomania, there should be one president in Russia, as well as ministries, otherwise every region has huge bureaucratic apparatus. Well, who is sponsoring all this and it is so clear that our NATO "friends" have only one goal to weaken and destroy by any means.

[Support]

. This suggests that the religion of Islam is very malleable to outside pressure. All sorts of cheaters use it as some kind of girl. Muslims - of you have made a bogey enemy for all. Do you like this? Damn, but only Islam blows up, shoots, kills, robs .... in such a number of believers. There are terrorists and Christians. Only these are Catholics and Protestants. And if there is all of Islam in the creation of chaos, if necessary, I will take arms without a twinge and defend my own. It’s just already completely overgrown. Ohreneli. Dumbfounded. It’s time to do something ..... There were still not enough of our own daughters (through ubl-, otherwise it will not allow censorship, the word who cuts eggs) .....

[97110]

Quote: Prop

but only Islam blows up, shoots, kills, robs .... in so many believers.

And the bulk of the Muslims hid until 2013 in Western Ukraine? Was Hitler a Muslim too? And then what about her greatness, the British Queen? Everything is clear about Barak Khusenych, thanks - they opened their eyes.

[lopvlad]

Tatarstan is by far the weakest link within Russia. The authorities of Tatarstan have been constantly hoping for an independent state from Russia and are developing it as independent as possible. Any attempt by Russia to bring local legislation into the clear framework of the Russian constitution there is regarded as aggression.
In addition, Tatarstan is actually the cradle of radical Islamic preachers in Russia. The lion's share of radical Wahhabi literature is published in Tatarstan.

[Antoshka]

I don’t know how about literature, but otherwise I agree with you. This year, the term given to Tatarstan to rename their "president" expires. The mood in the republic is such that there will be a conflict here. The "weak link" will give us specific trouble.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Antoshka

This year, the term given to Tatarstan to rename their "president" expires.

Once again, the deputies from Tatarstan will push the extension of the status of "President of Tatarstan" through the Duma.
If only this. The authorities of Tatarstan are still printing their republican passports.
A clash there is inevitable.
I would like to remind the authorities of Tatarstan that they are not Chechnya on the edge of Russia but a territory that is located in the center of Russia and can be easily blocked in case of a rebellion of local authorities around the entire border.

[Lee_Mubai]

All rebellious and threatening to the development of the most extreme regions of the north! at once they will sing differently, and they will learn the language and recognize their relatives! There is no Stalin on them, but the jackal relaxed!

[Gray 43]

Infa about radical Islamists passed, it seems that they even killed the disagreeing mufti, and the fact that certain individuals blackmail it is the work of the relevant authorities, the Tatars in Russia live very well, their neighbors are worse off.

[97110]

Quote: Gray 43

Tatars in Russia live very well, neighbors live worse.

In the USSR, Ukrainians lived best. Is not it so?

[Russian]

And what is the Tatar language special? the worse the Avar, Chechen, Ossetian, Bashkir, etc. .. then they are happy with everything and the Tatars are not. It is imperative to periodically express oneself, show that the special, although I am sure the previously mentioned and other peoples and their languages ​​are no less special than the Tatars and the Tatar language, for that matter, this is in gratitude for too much attention, for huge investments in the economy of the Republic !? It’s time for all of us to calm down and stand on the handbrake and think about something useful!

[raid14]

Turkey has a strong position in Tatarstan, the Turkish special services through agents of influence (private label "Azatlyk" and others) are trying to play on nationalist sentiments in society.

[Lee_Mubai]

And why do people in the photo have green headbands tied ???

[sleeping sayan]

"2s1122" And where did you study "letters and writing"?

[individual]

Disagreements have been and will be.
In this, the federal structure of the state differs from the unitary one.
The main thing is to be able to listen to each other and find acceptable agreements.

[lopvlad]

Quote: individ

Disagreements have been and will be.
In this, the federal structure of the state differs from the unitary one.

but not in the main issues of the arrangement of the state.
If, for example, the governor of one of the US states suddenly decides to call himself president and pursue an independent policy with infringement of the English language on his territory, then by the evening he will be arrested along with his administration.

Threats to Moscow indicate that the Tatarstan government does not respect and does not recognize Russians and the Russian government is oriented towards completely different external states (in this case, they consider Turkey closer to them).
The story with Turkey will also reveal parasites on the body of Russia and we will have to finish them off.

[Saints]

I believe that someone purposefully decided to undermine the situation. Here in this thread http://topwar.ru/87546-tatarstan-kak-odna-iz-celey-druzey-rossii.html#comment-id

-5332165 I already left a comment

I wonder where the Tatars are exterminated and oppressed. For more than 20 years in the north I have lived side by side with the Tatars. There is no question of any harassment. My best friend there was a Tatar by the way. Are Muslims exterminated? Yes, in the same city that I lived, the mosque was built the same as the church. At different ends of the street. Where do such nonsense come from? This is a targeted diversionary work to undermine national unity. For this you need to go to jail and for a long time. These are extremist statements. soldier

Apparently someone is distributing cookies to build things up. And this and the previous article only warms up this topic. Plus, Tatarstan is a multinational country. According to the same Wikipedia, 48,71% of Tatars, and 43,14% of Russians, well, plus about 34 other nationalities. Often slips through the fact that the Russians have to learn Tatar and everything that is connected with it by the clock is twice as much as its native Russian language. But some kind of unrest is not observed. In a country with such an amount and such a percentage distribution, no language should be preferred. And stuffing smacks of smell, and even another one.

[Black]

GDP today - when it was "felt" to the question about "the president of TATARSTAN" caved in .... then everything is really serious.

[Idunavs]

In addition to the language, there has long been discrimination against Russians, especially in work, it is much easier for Tatars to get a job than for Russians, all the highest ranks are mainly from Tatars.
In the domestic plan, it seems like there is no, with some exceptions ..

[Kurchan]

Excuse me, in which city of Tatarstan do you live? At what particular enterprise were you "infringed"? Or did your wife's brother's uncle tell you?

[Install it]

My acquaintance from the depths of Tatarstan is still indignant, why do they learn Tatar? After all, except in the Tatarstan, such knowledge is not needed anywhere. It’s hard to get a good job in another region, etc., etc.

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

Well, actually, that's the calculation! Show me at least one high school textbook in Tatar, Bashkir, Tuvan, any other language? .. Singing melodic national songs and working in agriculture, hunting, and national hunting is the future. And to occupy posts, move science - will be the ruling clan, completely and completely. But this is the path to extinction.

[dr. sem]

The GDP's passion for geopolitics will cost the people of Russia and especially the “receiver” a lot....
Today no one is in a hurry to sort out internal problems.

[lopvlad]

Quote: dr. sem

GDP's passion for geopolitics will cost the people of Russia very dearly

in the 90s, we were not interested in geopolitics at all, and Russian blood flowed like a river. What it was worth is remembered only by those who lived in the 90s at a conscious age.

[dr. sem]

In the 90s, Russians were not involved in geopolitics, then Russians were involved in geopolitics... Without asking permission...

[Resident007]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

Nobody says that bad people live in Tatarstan! More precisely, there are bad people everywhere, in Russia, in Tatarstan, and in Germany, etc. This is not the point, the point is that the local "elite" can try on a wave of difficulties, playing the national card to try to bargain for more buns! And in the conditions of the declared war on us, it could end badly! Tell me what Nuland did on her trip across Russia, again brought cookies to someone or did she come to eat dumplings ?!

That’s right, it looks very much like an attempt to plant an idea (like, let’s see how the people react, and then we’ll see) by analogy with Ukraine...

[Stauffenberg]

There is no need to put a label on the whole people, but to quietly remove the violent ones. In what ways? Let them come up with it - we are very good at doing this if we are talking about someone’s property that needs to be squeezed out.

[demand1]

This minister needs to be sent to Kolyma, and then to a punishment cell in prison for another month, until this asshole remembers his native language! In any case, the Americans paid for this show off.

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

The symptoms, by the way, are very bad, if you don’t react now, you can have very big problems... Now there will be sponsors who want to spoil things! Tatarstan is first and foremost a subject of the Russian Federation!!! That says it all! There is a Law and it must be respected! Those princelings who provoke everything, other than the desire to gain undivided power and turn the entire Tatar people into an uneducated, easily controlled mass, do not pursue other goals. And at the same time line your pockets! They must be neutralized, the sooner the better. I am far from thinking that their children and grandchildren studied Russian as an elective! 200% - they have an excellent education!!! And those who go to these “rallies”, at a minimum, lack the intelligence to understand that they are whistling into someone else’s tune and they, like ordinary representatives of Tatarstan, have the least benefit from all these “threats to Moscow”.

[Support]

Quote: 97110

Quote: Prop

but only Islam blows up, shoots, kills, robs .... in so many believers.

And the bulk of the Muslims hid until 2013 in Western Ukraine? Was Hitler a Muslim too? And then what about her greatness, the British Queen? Everything is clear about Barak Khusenych, thanks - they opened their eyes.

In volume in relation to the total number of believers. What about poop? Do you classify them as Christians? And to terrorists? Who is still involved in the slave trade? Are you being smart?: Well, well....

[ruskih]

I looked at the answers from the President of Russia today. And suddenly I hear a question about the President of Tatarstan. To be honest, I was surprised to say the least. I go to VO and here is this article. This is all for a reason. It is clear that they are trying to rock the boat. Some people simply need this and these are clearly not ordinary people. The state Russian language is what is there to discuss. Whether you like it or not, everyone must study it. There are two official languages ​​in Belarus and there is no question why they should study both. Or how once in the 70s and 80s boys in the army learned Russian, but girls never knew it.

[nikoma2015]

In Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tatarstan and other former RED BAI are in power, and by hook or by crook, under the slogan of pseudo-democracy,
and no one can overthrow them, even the constitutions of these countries are not able to do this, they will simply change the article in their favor like KAZAKH. in each of these countries there is a very strong lobby against Russia. They sleep for the time being. And then it is poured using the same method as in Tatarstan.

[Friends]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Tatarstan got excited for a reason. The Turks are stirring him up.

Most likely, not only the Turks, but also the elites of certain “exceptional and God-chosen” peoples, called “our partners.”

In any case, you can’t relax. Even if the article contains exaggerations.

And national elites should remember that radical nationalism is almost always destructive not only for large states against which it is directed, but also for those ethno-national groups that are its driving force. And weakness, as a rule, is taken advantage of by an external enemy. There are plenty of historical examples. Both old and not so old...

[Thompson]

Quote: Temples

Article - stupid stuffing of desa.

Good people live in Tatarstan.
Both Tatars and Russians and many people of other nationalities.

Who does not believe - go and see for yourself.

In principle I agree. But why in principle? There are also those who want to sow confusion. And various aggressive movements of Islam reached there.
I came across them in various forums. Therefore, it is extremely harmful to underestimate the situation.

[Thompson]

Quote: Svetoch

I believe that someone purposefully decided to undermine the situation. Here in this thread http://topwar.ru/87546-tatarstan-kak-odna-iz-celey-druzey-rossii.html#comment-id


-5332165 I already left a comment

I wonder where the Tatars are exterminated and oppressed. For more than 20 years in the north I have lived side by side with the Tatars. There is no question of any harassment. My best friend there was a Tatar by the way. Are Muslims exterminated? Yes, in the same city that I lived, the mosque was built the same as the church. At different ends of the street. Where do such nonsense come from? This is a targeted diversionary work to undermine national unity. For this you need to go to jail and for a long time. These are extremist statements. soldier

Apparently someone is distributing cookies to build things up. And this and the previous article only warms up this topic. Plus, Tatarstan is a multinational country. According to the same Wikipedia, 48,71% of Tatars, and 43,14% of Russians, well, plus about 34 other nationalities. Often slips through the fact that the Russians have to learn Tatar and everything that is connected with it by the clock is twice as much as its native Russian language. But some kind of unrest is not observed. In a country with such an amount and such a percentage distribution, no language should be preferred. And stuffing smacks of smell, and even another one.

Well, in Ukraine, too, the percentage of Banderaites was minuscule, but they did a lot of things...
И 20 years in the north...off topic at all.
Not all the darlings are at home.
I’m not making it worse, but to say that everything is super is at least stupid

[pupkin70]

Here is a link to the topic of how Russian children are being treated in Tatarstan!!!! http://regnum.ru/news/cultura/1657041.html#ixzz2SignZsjB



And one more http://www.rulang.su/news/2014-07-17-80
But a Russian mother is being tried for forbidding her children to learn a language they don’t need http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1244039/

And so on......what kind of rocking boat are you talking about? Do you think that if you don’t know it, then it doesn’t exist???? Put yourself in their place!!!!! We live in Russia, if they need to, let them teach, but why are others forced!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????

[Mark68]

I live in Tatarstan. The problem of the Russification of the Tatar population of cities still exists, the national question also exists, especially in the outback. At school, the number of hours of teaching Russian and Tatar languages ​​is almost the same. But because of this, none of the Russian-speaking population began to speak Tatar anyway. The quality of Tatar teaching is poor. Tatar teachers cannot understand that Russians should study it by analogy with a foreign language. As a result, quality suffers. In the 90s, those who were then in power in Tatarstan agreed with EBN on money and privatization, as a result, “extemists” and “nationalists” quickly appeared and disappeared just as quickly. Now, as they felt that “Minikha-stvo” should become an ordinary subject of the Russian Federation, and their privatized and economic affairs will no longer be so “sovereignty”, immediately, as if by order, “extremists” and nationalists” will begin to raise their heads again.. They will raise it if you don’t extinguish it on time, and they won’t raise it if you extinguish it on time.It all depends on the desire of the local oligarchic administration.

[ved_med12]

My son is Tatar, studies at the Tatar gymnasium in Kazan... All subjects are in Russian! The class is divided into two groups, one with a “deep” study, the other with an easier program...
At a meeting, I hear from a parent, “my daughter doesn’t want to learn Tatar...” The girl has the only C grade in her quarter! Mom says to the class teacher: “Let’s solve the problem!”
This is all, despite the fact that Tatar is one of the easiest languages ​​for Russian children to learn!!! This girl knows excellent English and is additionally studying (optional) Chinese!
And further! There, above, some “radish” wrote slander against Shaimiev! So, I want to answer (I don’t want to look for who it is) it was M.Sh. Shaimiev in the “glorious 90s” who was able to calm down and calm the nationalist movement in the republic!!! For what honor and praise to the first President of the Republic!
And Minnekhanov is not liked in the region! And if he is “removed”, then 50% of the population will be happy, 25-30% will remain silent... There is simply no other alternative, as they say!
Something like this... (Kazan-Tatar)
PS I have been reading this resource for a long time and with interest. But the topic "hit" and I decided to register!

[Kurchan]

I also registered just for these articles. I was hooked by the level of lies. I am Russian, I live in Tatarstan, and I support your words 100%.

[Kurchan]

I also registered just for these articles. I was hooked by the level of lies. I am Russian, I live in Tatarstan, and I support your words 100%.

[DPN]

Such articles only work towards the collapse of the country, it seems that for some people the collapse of the USSR is not enough, and whoever benefited from this - a bunch of oligarchs - will still lose, the people and the journalist who asked the GDP about the presidency of Tatarstan.

After the 90s, no matter what, in the leadership there are only presidents or not just directors, but a bunch of generals, that’s what kind of rudeness the people put on, having ruined the country or they will still talk about it.

[dr. sem]

The elites are working for the collapse of the country (by action/inaction).
This is how it was in Gorbachev’s USSR, this is how it was in EBN Russia in the 90s. (The Caucasus was on fire)
So it is today. Instead of solving the problems of small/medium businesses, instead of introducing progressive (fair) taxation, instead of qualitatively improving the level of medicine and education, instead of building new infrastructure (there are no roads, there are “directions”), instead of fair justice (“law enforcers” - villages.. .mo) the peoples of Russia are offered a TV... Well, well...

[am808s]

I’m Russian, I’ve been living with a Tatar woman for 30 years, I raised two sons and there were no problems with it. My late father-in-law used to say, “We are all smeared with the same sweat and we have nothing to divide. Only our enemies can divide us by nationality.” Russia has plenty of enemies, and we all need to eradicate them in our midst together. Many young people from Tatarstan said that separatist themes are really heard there and are not stopped by the local authorities. I think that’s where the traitors are digging in.

[ved_med12]

Yes, it’s stupid to deny, the topic of separatism naturally exists on the territory of the republic.
Only she is “outside” and not internal at the moment! This must and can be fought! “New” imams appear, most often newcomers, who try to instill new trends in the youth (by the way, among whom there are also a large number of “non-locals”)...

[lopvlad]

Quote: am808s

I’m Russian, I’ve lived with a Tatar woman for 30 years, I raised two sons and there were no problems with it.

It’s not a matter of nationality, but the environment in which a person grew up and was brought up.
By applying a certain ideology, you can force a Russian to hate and kill Russians (an example of this is Ukraine).

[ved_med12]

Quote: demandy1

This minister needs to be sent to Kolyma, and then to a punishment cell in prison for another month, until this asshole remembers his native language! In any case, the Americans paid for this show off.

What do you mean, dear sir, by the term “Mother tongue”?
For Him, “native” is specifically Tatar!!! I am sure that this message was not written by some “indigenous” resident of, say, Kolmykia or conditional Udmurtia.. Why, Dear, do you not like it when they try to “suppress” Russian in dill, but you are happy to try to “push” Tatar into RT?
Yes, we have problems in our region (Tatarstan), but they must be solved “quietly” and without showing off...

[Turner38]

Maybe it's time to take Kazan again?

[ved_med12]

You better bother to read the comments! Vanyushka, you are “formidable”...

[wheel]

New Golden Horde, or Tatar People's Republic?

[bubla5]

It’s just that, again, someone needs trouble in the highest echelon, no one is forced to teach Tatar, at school there are programs, there are hours and that’s it, they’re stirring things up for the elections

[Former battalion commander]

It has begun... Russia will not be able to survive in this situation and WITH THESE LEADERS AND WITH THIS IDEOLOGY... This is already obvious... It looks like only dictatorship, only isolation, only a new idea (or some old one). True, a sea of ​​blood will be shed. But the alternative is THE SAME SEA OF BLOOD AND THE COMPLETE DISAPPEARANCE of the Slavic civilization like the Indians...

[urahipper]

Again, the bastard is trying to pit peoples who have lived together for centuries over money and positions.

[artur2829]

Soooo... I've lived in Tatarstan for 30 of my 30 years. Mother is Russian, father is Tatar. I don’t support the United Russia member, the President of the Republic Minnikhanov, in everything - firstly, during a meeting with the Saudis, he stated that Tatarstan is a Muslim republic (despite the fact that the share of Russians is about 40%). secondly, this person compared the number of hours of Russian language with the number of Tatra language in schools. thirdly, he introduced the Tatar language in the second group of kindergartens (from the age of four!!!!!!). It's time to change. I didn't choose him.

[wheel]

Quote: artur2829

- this person compared the number of hours of Russian language with the number of Tatra language in schools. .

But what should it be like to be fair? Do you consider 50x50 an infringement of the Russian language?

[Hannibal Lecter]

Putin clearly said that using the example of Chechnya, thanks to Kadyrov for his wisdom, there should be only one President. What is it that the Tatars don’t understand now? Maybe all the constituent entities of the Russian Federation will begin to elect their own presidents...

[Yugra]

If this is true, and not a hoax, then this issue must be resolved harshly and cruelly, so that the mouth does not simply open. And I would advise the authorities of Tatarstan to pay attention to the mosque in Aznakaevo - a hotbed of Wahhabism. And in general, Wahhabis preach in remote villages in Tatarstan, This is where the bloody Daesh feeds...

[Kurchan]

According to your information, how many left Aznakaevo to join Daesh. Specifically in numbers please.
Where will you be from?

[rumpeljschtizhen]

why worry, let everyone study folk Tatar.....what interesting chance they will have to advance in their work without knowledge of Russian....

[Al iv]

Quote: Black Colonel

And strangers can always be seen by their behavior, no matter where they are, whether on foot or on horseback. In Rostov and the region there, too, traffic police officers more often than not stop visitors for any checks on drivers with non-local license plates. Previously, in Rostov, people were slowed down on the basis of not wearing a seat belt - if they didn’t fasten it, it meant they weren’t from Rostov, and they could even stop people living in the region. And an acquaintance once spoke very unflatteringly, to put it mildly, about Tatar, especially Kazan, traffic cops,

Yes, Tatarstan traffic police inspectors are an order of magnitude tougher than in the rest of Russia, but if somewhere on Russian roads I am overtaken at breakneck speed (despite the fact that I’m not driving slowly either), then in most cases these are my fellow countrymen. So the actions of the traffic police are almost always justified.

[Kurchan]

It feels like he purposefully publishes such articles. It smacks of inciting ethnic hatred, don’t you think so?
This is the third time I’ve read such an article here. And it’s always the same - articles by incomprehensible scribblers, without citing facts, without statements from officials of the leadership of Tatarstan.
What are you trying to achieve?
I myself live in Tatarstan, Russian. But how annoying are your fascist antics? Are you aware that you live in a MULTINATIONAL state? The peoples of the republic have the right to speak their own languages.
And if the leadership of the republic did not allow the Gaidars and Chubais to steal the production and agricultural sector in the republic, this does not mean that everything was built with Russian money. It’s just that the Tatars have not looked through the legacy of the Union and are actively developing it.
And if you say that Kamaz or another plant is Russian (read Moscow), you are mistaken. This is a Soviet heritage and it belongs to the people of the republic. And taxes from these factories do not go to Moscow, but directly to the republican budget. That's why we have one of the most developed social networks.
What kind of debts, what are you talking about!? Tatarstan ranks 6th in terms of income regions and second in agricultural production.
Now read it all again. This is a Russian writing to you. And I am glad and proud that I live in Tatarstan.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Kurchan

Now read it all again. This is a Russian writing to you. And I am glad and proud that I live in Tatarstan.

you are just another frog that was heated so slowly on the fire that it did not have time to understand that there was boiling water around and was stupidly boiled.
Those in Odessa also thought that everything was fine with them until they were slaughtered like cattle in the House of Trade Unions.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Sergey Vladimirovich

The symptoms, by the way, are very bad, if you don’t react now, you can get into very big problems

these symptoms have been present in Tatarstan since the 90s. In the early 2000s, Putin achieved in Tatarstan only that the republic finally began paying taxes to the federal budget of Russia (before that they did not pay anything).
Otherwise, everything remains the same in Tatarstan (from the priority of the Constitution of Tatarstan over the Constitution of Russia, the issuance of its republican passports, the position of its president, and so on).
Why then did Tatarstan begin to pay taxes to the Russian budget in the 2000s?
The authorities of Tatarstan, after Putin’s harsh actions in Chechnya in the early 2000s, stupidly fucked up losing everything like Dudayev and pretended to be some kind of bunny. Moreover, then Russia was infatuated with the one they are guided by (Turkey) and consider themselves part of the Turkic world of which Turkey declared itself the head.

Now that Russia has a confrontation with Turkey, contradictions with the authorities of Tatarstan will only increase, and the Turkish special services will throw firewood into the republic through their network of influence not only in mosques but also in all educational institutions of the republic.

[riding]

Quote: Rarog

It is high time to abolish all the national republics and rename them in the region with the name in the regional capital - Kazan, Ufa, etc. area. Is it really an example of the collapse of the Union in the republics, many of which were artificially created, as in the national plan (Belarus and Ukraine-Little Russia, whose population in the Republic of Ingushetia considered themselves to be the same Russian people as the majority of the inhabitants of the rest of Russia, not separating themselves from them), so in the territorial, taught nothing to anyone ?! The current powers that be periodically criticize the national policy of dividing the USSR into nat. republics while fully copying this policy in modern Russia. We will not begin to take effective measures now, we will get such that no one dreamed of in the near future.

Be realistic, dear!

[Lisa]

I just wonder why Russia doesn’t learn from the mistakes of the USSR and also invests in the so-called republics?! Builds infrastructure. factories, gives jobs and forgets about Russia itself. After all, everything was already in the 90s.....