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Iran confirmed its intention to purchase T-90

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Representatives of the command of the Iranian army held negotiations with the Russian side on the purchase tanks T-90 and then transferred their proposals for the deal to the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, reports MIC with reference to the commander of the land forces of the country Ahmad Purdastana.




"Negotiations with representatives of the Russian side were held and the corresponding proposal for the purchase of T-90 tanks was transferred to the General Headquarters of the Iranian armed forces," the general said

“At present, the basis of our armored forces are T-72 tanks. These machines have proven themselves very well during combat operations. They are produced by our defense industry. But at the same time, we draw attention to the fact that the T-90 tank has higher combat capabilities and meets all the requirements that we place on modern armored vehicles, ”Purdastan emphasized.

“In addition to tanks, we feel the need to acquire other types of weapons, such as helicopters, as well as weapons and military equipment of individual use. All this is also included in the list of weapons, which we proposed to purchase the General Staff, ”he added.

“The Iranian military-industrial complex has a high potential. But, nevertheless, we will steadily take care of its further modernization, ”said the commander.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 16 December 2015 18: 46 New
    31
    As they say - forward and with the song. The armor is strong and our tanks are fast. The use of the T-90 in Syria apparently pleased the Iranians. Then they can ask for a production license.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 16 December 2015 18: 54 New
      44
      Not a bad choice Iran!
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 16 December 2015 19: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Not a bad choice Iran!

        Big-eyed "machine" good
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 16 December 2015 19: 37 New
        +7
        In addition to tanks, we feel the need to acquire other types of weapons, such as helicopters, as well as weapons and military equipment for individual use. All this is also included in the list of weapons that we proposed to purchase to the General Staff

        Well, that's great. Iran-modern military equipment. Funds for further development for our enterprises good
      3. Altona
        Altona 16 December 2015 21: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Not a bad choice Iran!

        --------------------
        The choice is excellent, and if helicopters, a rifle gun, fighter jets, air defense systems are also purchased, then generally good. It is necessary to capture the arms market of Iran.
      4. Michael-rl
        Michael-rl 16 December 2015 22: 28 New
        0
        Most likely they will purchase a modification of the MS, because it is unlikely that A or C will already be released.
      5. valerei
        valerei 19 December 2015 12: 07 New
        0
        Yeah! A good burst from a small-bore cannon and all these "Christmas tree decorations" will crumble down.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 16 December 2015 19: 02 New
      12
      We have a lot of things, please contact:
      1. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 16 December 2015 19: 25 New
        12
        There is a joke, they say the United States is not afraid of a war with China, because the latest American titanium shell with a uranium base with super electronic filling penetrates any new Chinese tank!
        And the Chinese are also not afraid of a war with China, because any newest Chinese tank is four times cheaper than the latest American titanium shell with a uranium base with super-electronic filling)

        The moral of the fable is that efficiency must be consistent with the price and here the T-90 is in order.
    3. maks-101
      maks-101 16 December 2015 19: 10 New
      +4
      The scandal of Avkov and the bears, in the spiders jar, are resting with gum. Recommend.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 16 December 2015 19: 16 New
      +4
      Buy "Solntsepёkov" a bit more. A solid thing - it inspires respect for any opponent.
    5. Uran
      Uran 16 December 2015 19: 54 New
      +3
      Now Iran needs tanks like air
    6. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 16 December 2015 22: 01 New
      0
      Quote: oleg-gr
      The use of the T-90 in Syria apparently pleased the Iranians

      How did the T-90 prove themselves in Syria?
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 16 December 2015 23: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Prapor-527

        How did the T-90 prove themselves in Syria?

        If they do not lie, then they contributed to the closure of the boiler on the border with Turkey.
    7. Maxom75
      Maxom75 17 December 2015 01: 58 New
      +1
      The Persians are strong traders and can impose any contract on the purchase of weapons a bunch of conditions. We have our pluses: the Persians are interested in S-300 models, helicopters, tanks, which are difficult to adapt to their own production. To establish the production of these samples is not easy, lots are needed, moreover, very large in the hundreds and thousands, otherwise it will cost too much. We are doing thermal imagers for tanks, but for the civilian industry we aren’t doing it, we are not monitoring developments due to mass production, which is why some of our equipment is more expensive than foreign analogues. We produce laser rangefinders and sights, and equipment for shooting ranges, schools (pointers), planetariums, builders, machine builders, toolmakers and machine tool builders, etc. we import from abroad.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 19 December 2015 11: 37 New
        0
        If only the Ministry of Defense of Russia bought the nineties, otherwise we will distribute T-90MS to all the sheep republics to the right and to the left, while the main tank itself has budget-upgraded seventy-two.
  2. cniza
    cniza 16 December 2015 18: 47 New
    11
    “In addition to tanks, we feel the need to acquire other types of weapons, such as helicopters, as well as weapons and military equipment for individual use. All this was also included in the list of weapons that we proposed to purchase to the General Staff, ”he added.


    That's nice, there is where to earn extra money for the rearmament of their own army.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 16 December 2015 18: 58 New
      -3
      Which T-90 I want an answer to this question. If MS, are we ready to launch it in a series? If ordinary, then the upgraded 72 will cost less. In fact, one garbage, but easier to repair and spare parts.
  3. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 16 December 2015 18: 49 New
    +4
    so ours gave Syria tanks so that others could see and decide to buy
    1. sober
      sober 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Angry Pinnochio
      so ours gave Syria tanks so that others could see and decide to buy

      Yes, ours was given with complete mincemeat. night and infrared sights. But I think minced meat to Iran if it goes then for an extra fee !!!!!! Yes, and the country is muddy !!!!!!
      1. wicked pinnochio
        wicked pinnochio 16 December 2015 19: 04 New
        -2
        and what is cloudy like they partners do not like Sunnis
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 16 December 2015 20: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Angry Pinnochio
          and what is cloudy like they partners do not like Sunnis


          Well, yes, Gregory, it is unlikely that Shiite Iran would have a great love for the Sunnis. Only one small nuance makes it difficult to experience great joy on this occasion. The bottom line is that almost 100% of Russian Muslims are Sunnis.
          Something like that, colleague, historically. hi
          1. Extraneous
            Extraneous 16 December 2015 20: 39 New
            +4
            Oddly enough, Iran has a moderate stance on religious denominations. Four religions are officially recognized there: Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism and, you will laugh a little, - Judaism.
            Each religion in the Iranian Majlis is legally assigned one place.
            By the way: It was the Persian king who at one time freed the Jews from the bondage of Babylon, and the Jews remember this.
            There were, of course, different times and different inter-religious conflicts within Iran, but at this historical moment - Iran is not a supporter of "ultra" Islamism and supports a more or less peaceful coexistence of religions on its territory.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 16 December 2015 22: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Stranger
              Each religion in the Iranian Majlis is legally assigned one place.
              By the way: It was the Persian king who at one time freed the Jews from the bondage of Babylon, and the Jews remember this.
              There were, of course, different times and different inter-religious conflicts within Iran, but at this historical moment - Iran is not a supporter of "ultra" Islamism and supports a more or less peaceful coexistence of religions on its territory.

              A lot of things are fixed on paper. Only in Persia there were Jewish pogroms and arrests. And the remaining 25000 Jews in Iran under very strict supervision - it was possible to communicate with immigrants from there
              1. Extraneous
                Extraneous 17 December 2015 10: 05 New
                0
                A lot of things are fixed on paper. Only in Persia there were Jewish pogroms and arrests. And the remaining 25000 Jews in Iran under very strict supervision - it was possible to communicate with immigrants from there


                And I'm not saying that they are white and fluffy. Pogroms were in Russia, if you remember. Considering that the Iranian constitution enshrines the goal of the destruction of Israel, strict supervision of the Jews is quite normal. The violent Islamization of the population in Iran ended in the late seventies. After Khomeini came to power there, the laws are rather strictly enforced and the persecution of followers of other faiths is suppressed. Another thing is domestic extremism. Well, so it is flourishing here.
          2. -Traveller-
            -Traveller- 16 December 2015 20: 46 New
            -3
            and how does this nuance interfere? Russia is also against the Sunnis, which means with Iran along the way.
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 16 December 2015 20: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: -Traveller-
              and how does this nuance interfere? Russia is also against the Sunnis, which means with Iran along the way.


              And how is it, colleague, share your knowledge, Russia can be against almost a third of its population. belay
              1. -Traveller-
                -Traveller- 16 December 2015 21: 43 New
                -3
                well, not a third, but 10 percent.
                and even a third. Syria won against 60% of its population.
                1. Talgat
                  Talgat 17 December 2015 02: 14 New
                  0
                  It’s not about Sunnis - Shiites

                  Russia is the Sunnis, and Kazakhstan is the Sunnis and all of Central Asia, but the Saudis are not friends with the Saudis — how much nasty things they do! Already patience is running out!

                  And there are no problems with the seemingly Shiite Iran. Maybe because not, he does not pretend to be Sunni Muslims.

                  Moreover . the course towards strategic rapprochement with Iran was taken many years ago - and it is beneficial to us both to Iran and Russia
                  1. -Traveller-
                    -Traveller- 18 December 2015 01: 16 New
                    0
                    laughing
                    Russia is Orthodox and atheists
                    Kazakhstan Sunnis? but is Kazakhstan not communites (the letter “c” is not missing)? Well, as if formally, by and large, on the whole, in general, in general, by some signs, of course, okay, so be it ... Muslims ... Sunnis.
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        2. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 16 December 2015 23: 28 New
          0
          Quote: wicked pinnochio
          and what is cloudy like they partners do not like Sunnis

          Yes, where are the Sunnis, Shiites. The point is the variation of religion, and the adequacy and elementary decency at least at the initial level.
          1. velikoros-xnumx
            velikoros-xnumx 16 December 2015 23: 54 New
            0
            I mean, not in variation, but in ...
      2. VP
        VP 16 December 2015 22: 13 New
        +2
        Why cloudy? Matter than Qatar with the Saudis or something?
        If we don’t set it, we will soon find some Frenchmen there.
        Iran is next to Turkey ...
  4. newcomer
    newcomer 16 December 2015 18: 50 New
    +6
    good news. we’ll help the ally, and what a sin to conceal; the money will not hurt during this troubled time.
  5. 1976AG
    1976AG 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +4
    If you do not want the fate of Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq, the army must possess the most modern weapons.
  6. max702
    max702 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +8
    As far as we know, the conveyor for the T-90 at UVZ is idle, therefore it would not be bad to load it with an Iranian order, at the moment and in the next decade, two Iran will hardly be our enemy, so why not ..
    1. Rader
      Rader 16 December 2015 19: 17 New
      +2
      “Negotiations with representatives of the Russian side were held and the corresponding proposal for the purchase of T-90 tanks was transferred to the General Staff of the IRI Armed Forces”

      Eeee ... And what about Iran has already lifted the ban on the purchase of offensive weapons? ... In any case, such contracts are not signed in 5 minutes, and from the moment the details are agreed upon, until the first deliveries, more than one year can pass.
      The fact that the capacities previously used in the implementation of contracts with India, and for the benefit of the Russian army, will be loaded is good, but so far it is not known how many cars, nor the modification that will be delivered, it’s too early to talk about concrete benefits (well, except for the political one).
      Still, it’s interesting what the Iranians want to buy for the 90th, maybe they will fork out for MS, or they may choose the budget version, more similar to the Hindu ones ...
  7. Egor123
    Egor123 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    Well, now there will be something to threaten the Turks good
  8. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +7
    While Iran needs to be supported - as I understand it, this is the only counterweight to the punks from Qatar and Saudi Arabia in those parts.
  9. gla172
    gla172 16 December 2015 18: 56 New
    15
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    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 16 December 2015 21: 50 New
      -3
      strange lunge towards Toyota.
      much smarter would be a photo of Kruzak and the caption “control a dream, not a freak”
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  10. Dimitrakis
    Dimitrakis 16 December 2015 18: 57 New
    +4
    Syria is an advertising move of the Russian military-industrial complex in the east.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 16 December 2015 22: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Dimitrakis
      Syria is an advertising move of the Russian military-industrial complex in the east.


      Yes, there’s no time for advertising. A war has been declared to the world cattle, it is necessary to beat wherever we reach. Now some will talk about the advertising campaign. Not until now.
    2. ordinary
      ordinary 17 December 2015 05: 24 New
      0
      is it not an expensive advertisement ... comrade .. although I understand you, yes, somewhere, of course, and advertising, but fundamentally the protection of our oil business ... soldier
  11. Darkoff
    Darkoff 16 December 2015 19: 02 New
    +9
    Buy more! We will arrange the serial production of Almaty with this money.

    PS still cars would have bought 10000 pieces at least - we would have loved the Persians, as relatives.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 16 December 2015 22: 21 New
      0
      Quote: DarkOFF
      Buy more! We will arrange the serial production of Almaty with this money.

      PS still cars would have bought 10000 pieces at least - we would have loved the Persians, as relatives.


      There will be Force, "buy a brick" will also be. Pay attention - we are underestimating the declared range of our missiles (well, the "NK caliber" will obviously fly further than the declared 2500 km, judging by the hard start from the ship!) Maybe 2500 nautical miles? And THESE exaggerated, said 2500 km for the "tomahawk" - And? More than 900 did not fly. But it cannot because, and with the accuracy of the problem. And new only in the project that way in 10 years, and to modernize the existing one - the toad croaks. The American military industrial complex is a snake devouring its own tail, and thank God for us, you are going the right way, comrades.
      1. Extraneous
        Extraneous 16 December 2015 22: 51 New
        0
        The problem in the naval use of missile weapons is not in the flight range, but in the accuracy of guidance in the absence of reference to "surface" coordinates and target mobility. Hence, basically, such a big difference in the range of destruction at sea and on land. The target on land is usually static. The target at sea is mobile and can snap, which leads to a reduction in the launch distance.
  12. avva2012
    avva2012 16 December 2015 19: 12 New
    +4
    Currently, the basis of our armored forces are the T-72 tanks.
    Not bad. How many more countries can say that? And, after such words, they can say that Iran is not an ally? Given the attitude of this country to the main, our partner, the USA? Lift me forever and show other allies.
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 16 December 2015 20: 18 New
      -2
      Iran is a client, but not an ally!
      Iran’s interests lie in the same areas as Russia's interests.
      BV, Central Asia with the Caspian, Transcaucasia - all this is a conflict of interests of Iran and Russia. That is why the United States decided to lift sanctions against Iran in order to oppose it to Russia in this region.
      Russia benefits Iran as a client and a TEMPORARY partial ally in the struggle for Syria.
      There will be a lot of problems with Iran afterwards.
      1. cap
        cap 16 December 2015 20: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Stranger
        Iran is a client, but not an ally!
        Iran’s interests lie in the same areas as Russia's interests.
        BV, Central Asia with the Caspian, Transcaucasia - all this is a conflict of interests of Iran and Russia. That is why the United States decided to lift sanctions against Iran in order to oppose it to Russia in this region.
        Russia benefits Iran as a client and a TEMPORARY partial ally in the struggle for Syria.
        There will be a lot of problems with Iran afterwards.

        I agree. Religious and stubborn are no worse than others.
        The main thing is that they are not Daesh sectarians, who just grandmothers hammer and fulfill the political order of the United States and Qatar.
        You look at the photo of the commander. He has several generals killed in the field. Here he fussed with weapons.
        For the Iranians, igil-shmegil is a matter of time. The main thing is that the Iranians discovered oxygen with the lifting of sanctions.
        For too long, the USA held them by the throat, and mattresses didn’t take such a step despite the Israeli protests.
        So if we talk about the Persians in general, Erdogan in the role of padishah is still "oh what a question."
        In fact, in Iran, the armed forces are divided by subordination
        -Just the Armed Forces and the "Guards of the Islamic Revolution", obey the Ayatollah, who and what he is quite widely described in the internet. But the fact itself does not allow either one or the other to relax. This in many respects distinguishes the Iranian army from the past and present Iraqi. The enemy is serious. and it is better to let it be on our side.
        Something like that hi
        1. Extraneous
          Extraneous 16 December 2015 21: 27 New
          -2
          Regarding their attitude to religions, I have already expressed myself above. Here they are, perhaps, better than many other countries.
          In Syria, if I have not missed something, it is the "guards" that speaks of the attitude towards Daesh as an enemy of religion. This makes it clear to all players in the arena that Iran intends to destroy any other interpretations of Islam, except those recognized by Iran.
          The states lift sanctions from Iran precisely in order to have a counterbalance to Russia in the BV. In this sense, their actions should be considered.
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 17 December 2015 02: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Stranger
            The states lift sanctions from Iran precisely in order to have a counterbalance to Russia in the BV. In this sense, their actions should be considered.


            Iran is in no way a counterweight to either Russia or us. It is a natural "natural" geopolitical ally

            Sanctions will be lifted altogether. It will be better for everyone. Our president, together with the Iranian one, announced a manifold increase in turnover in trade. and it will be ten times or more
            It’s only profitable for everyone

            Not all the Saud Cathars steer.
            1. Extraneous
              Extraneous 17 December 2015 10: 30 New
              -2
              Sanctions will be lifted altogether. It will be better for everyone. Our president, together with the Iranian one, announced a manifold increase in turnover in trade. and it will be ten times or more
              It’s only profitable for everyone


              : o) I remember - just recently we had wonderful relations with Turkey and the trade turnover was very large. And where did all this go?
              The same story with Iran.
              Remember once and for all: for Islamic countries, any non-Islamic country is a place where there are people who can be traded, but it’s better to destroy it. They will smile, nod their heads, sign any contracts. But it’s worth a little weaken and they will turn around 180.
              Khomeini at one time put it something like this: Russia and America - two tigers ready to gobble up any. You can never believe them.
              Do you think that something has changed in Iran’s position?
              I personally strongly doubt it.
          2. avva2012
            avva2012 17 December 2015 04: 03 New
            0
            The states lift sanctions from Iran precisely in order to have a counterbalance to Russia in the BV. In this sense, their actions should be considered. The United States made a very big mistake in lifting the sanctions. As always, self-confidence and narcissism let down. Iran is a religious country, the main enemy: the United States, was and will be. The USSR no longer exists as a godless state in the Ayatollah's opinion, so there is nothing to share with Russia or Iran. "The enemy of my enemy, my friend." In addition, Iran, as an alternative to the Saudis, is also a plus. In Central Asia, there are Sunnis, so their support for Iran in this region is questionable. Azerbaijan, Shiites, are again a counterweight to Turkey. But, and "good neighborly" relations between Iran and Turkey, everyone knows. They are roughly like Russia and Poland. And in both cases, claims to a dominant role, in the first case, over the Islamic world, and in the second, over the Slavic world (although the train for Poland has long gone, but "hands remember"). It is impossible not to take into account the religious and national mentality. The United States, however, does not take into account, for them everything, savages. Well, in vain. fool
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 16 December 2015 21: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: cap
          In fact, in Iran, the armed forces are divided by subordination
          -Just the Armed Forces and the "Guards of the Islamic Revolution", obey the Ayatollah

          The Ground Forces, Air Force, Navy - are a little incorrect - are subordinate to the President of Iran, while the IRGC is only an ayatollah.
  13. starchina pv
    starchina pv 16 December 2015 19: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: DarkOFF
    Buy more! We will arrange the serial production of Almaty with this money.

    PS still cars would have bought 10000 pieces at least - we would have loved the Persians, as relatives.

    so the cars in the kit should go (to the load, as in the USSR)
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 December 2015 19: 15 New
    +2
    Tanks are not bad. Just keep in mind that Iran has no cash.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 16 December 2015 19: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Tanks are not bad. Just keep in mind that Iran has no cash.


      Sober and correct judgment.
      What can they offer?
      oil - which will also have to be sold somewhere ... but now it’s getting cheaper, and Iran will try to sell it at a fixed price.
      Shares in gas projects for the future. And what is the future of the Mransk projects - a pipe to Turkey ...

      It seems to be "here's the FSE!"

      somehow it’s not joyful! And the bonnet does not fly into the sky!
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 16 December 2015 20: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Tanks are not bad. Just keep in mind that Iran has no cash.

      In December, sanctions from Iran will be lifted. He will start trading in oil, gas and his best Iranian goods in the world. In Russia, there are simply no many goods from Iran. And for America, it is also a market for its products.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 16 December 2015 20: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Tanks are not bad. Just keep in mind that Iran has no cash.

        In December, sanctions from Iran will be lifted. He will start trading in oil, gas and his best Iranian goods in the world. In Russia, there are simply no many goods from Iran. And for America, it is also a market for its products.


        Have you ever looked at Iranian export articles?
        There is nothing besides carpets and pistachios. Moreover, pistachios in 2 times more than carpets.
        Will Uralvagonzavod pistachios receive a salary?
        Or is our country so badly in need of a huge number of hand-made (that is, expensive for 5-10 thousand dollars apiece) carpets and just bags (like potatoes) like to eat quite expensive pistachios too?
        Yes, so that our speculators will happily buy the contracts for these goods from Rosoboronexport and bring him their money?

        well it’s not funny ...
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      3. avva2012
        avva2012 17 December 2015 04: 07 New
        0
        And for America, it is also a market for its products.
        from a dead donkey ears, they will receive. Ayatollah will not allow.
      4. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 17 December 2015 11: 08 New
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        Alexey_K:
        "He will start trading in oil and gas" ///

        Start - they have no choice. And what will be the price of oil after that? belay
  15. Yarik
    Yarik 16 December 2015 19: 17 New
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    Quote: newbie
    good news. we’ll help the ally, and what a sin to conceal; the money will not hurt during this troubled time.


    Are you in share? It is gratifying to hear. laughing
  16. newcomer
    newcomer 16 December 2015 19: 24 New
    +4
    yarik what are you talking about? joke appreciated. the country needs money and the same uvz for a series of Almaty.
  17. newcomer
    newcomer 16 December 2015 19: 28 New
    +4
    just wondering what version of t90 does Iran want?
  18. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 December 2015 19: 30 New
    +6
    What version of the T-90 tank are we talking about! I do not think that this is a modification of the T-90MS.
    At one time, a contract for the supply of 300 tanks to India helped Uralvagonzavod to survive in the literal sense. Such markets should only be welcomed, given that funds are urgently needed to fine-tune "Armat".
  19. igorek4515
    igorek4515 16 December 2015 20: 00 New
    +3
    Just keep in mind that Iran has no cash.

    Well, here you are mistaken .. Oil production in Iran works as it should, oil refining also .. money is available and in the right amount .. it was just that international sanctions used to interfere, now they have been lifted from Iran. so I don’t see a problem ..
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 17 December 2015 02: 25 New
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      Of course "Igorek4515"

      You are absolutely right. Iran is a fully solvent partner. And not only weapons are being sold to him - for example, Rosatom is building the same nuclear plants. Kazakhstan also plans to increase trade turnover many times over

      But for good. even if he weren’t solvent, then he would still have to supply weapons — it’s a thousand times cheaper — I’ll repeat than die in Iran later on — and maybe they themselves will protect themselves and they’ll cover us from the south
  20. mamont5
    mamont5 16 December 2015 20: 12 New
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    Quote: jarome
    How will the T-90 do if they want to throw forces on Almaty? It seemed to me that there should be a re-equipment of the conveyor under the T-90 to Armata, parts of them.

    Until full-fledged serial production of Almaty is still not one year. The first only went to the troops. Now run-in, elimination of the noticed shortcomings, then a small series and again to the troops. And only then, as a result, a possible complete series. I do not think that all this time t-90 will not be produced, especially since such advertisements were made for foreign buyers. And then too, because Armat will not be sold to anyone for a long time (I hope).
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 16 December 2015 20: 26 New
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      Armata will not be the main combat vehicle for a very long time. Too complicated to manufacture and, most importantly, to use.
      The T-90 in various modifications will be the main tank for many more years and there is no escape from this. Yes, and I see no reason. In a big war, the outcome is decided not so much by the quality as the number of weapons and people who use these weapons. In the case of a big mess, it is a cheap and simple weapon that will play a decisive role.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 December 2015 20: 28 New
      +1
      In general, Iran will have money next year if nothing happens should unfreeze all 100 of billions of dollars that lie in the West.
      But he needed tanks (as well as everything else) since the sanctions were not in vain and even Zulfikar-3 did not reach the T-90, especially in electronics. But the question of prohibiting the sale of offensive weapons to him will not be resolved.
      Interesting information turns out that Iranian F-14s not only accompany and guard our TU-95s when they strike terrorists in Syria, it looks like our planes are directly based on Iranian airfields.
      Su-34 Russian Airborne Forces on the Iranian Air Force TAB-3 TAB north of Hamadan in western Iran
      http://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%98%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD

      The Russo-Iranian Military Coalition in Syria may be Deepening
      http://www.criticalthreats.org/russia/kagan-donovan-bucala-russo-iranian-coaliti

      on-in-syria-deepening-december-14-2015? utm_source = twitter & utm_medium = social & utm_

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      1. mav1971
        mav1971 16 December 2015 20: 47 New
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        Quote: quilted jacket
        In general, Iran will have money next year if nothing happens should unfreeze all 100 of billions of dollars that lie in the West.


        Only now there is no this money ...: (((

        Quote:
        The actual figure of found assets of the Central Credit Organization of Iran around the world is approximately 50 billion. This includes both the funds that they can spend now, while the sanctions are still in force, and the funds that they will receive when they fulfill all the conditions and gain access to their foreign reserves.

        Iran needs up to 500 billions of dollars to organize investment needs, state obligations, including 100 billions of dollars for now un funded military pensions, debt to the local fiscal sector, 100 billions of dollars to complete infrastructure projects, 170 billions of dollars to rebuild the oil and gas sector and recover lost mining opportunities.
  21. pexotinec
    pexotinec 16 December 2015 20: 16 New
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    We must play with Iran according to our rules. And do not be cunning yourself. Iran has not fired yet
  22. tinibar
    tinibar 16 December 2015 20: 42 New
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    Quote: jarome
    Quote: oleg-gr
    As they say - forward and with the song. The armor is strong and our tanks are fast. The use of the T-90 in Syria apparently pleased the Iranians. Then they can ask for a production license.


    There it is too early to draw conclusions on its effectiveness.
    How will the T-90 do if they want to throw forces on Almaty? It seemed to me that there should be a re-equipment of the conveyor under the T-90 to Armata, parts of them.

    Armata is not yet known when it will go in any large quantities, and an order for the T-90 oh would help UVZ, which is now plainly loaded and in great need of cash receipts, including for debugging T-14 production!
  23. VeteranS
    VeteranS 16 December 2015 22: 31 New
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    The newly created so-called Islamic anti-terrorist coalition (34 countries) under the leadership of Saudi Arabia (Sunni) can be aimed at weakening Shiite Iran, so Russian T-90 tanks can be very useful to them!
    1. varov14
      varov14 16 December 2015 22: 47 New
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      The armor is strong and our tanks are fast, the whole question is whether there is an extra conveyor belt so that you can work on the external and internal market. UVZ is probably more profitable to work for an external, that- the state does not spoil it. And before that, there was also an Omsk factory, and it seems that everything went out.
  24. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 16 December 2015 22: 40 New
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    Quote: pexotinec
    We must play with Iran according to our rules. And do not be cunning yourself. Iran has not fired yet

    Shot! (Learn Russian come in handy)
    Good news article +
    One thing worries, we still have T72 in service. Armata is certainly good, but damp. We would rearm ourselves.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 17 December 2015 00: 15 New
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      ....... on the balance sheet of the Ministry of Defense there are as many as 18 177 units of the mentioned military equipment. Of these, the T-72B tanks (7144 units), T-80 (4744 units) and T-64 (4000 units) form the basis. In addition, the T-62 (689 vehicles) and the T-55 (1200 tanks) are in service. Least of all in the tank troops are armored vehicles of the new generation - T-90, there are only 400 units. Agree that this is a negligible figure for such a large army. Let's hope that in the near future the situation will continue to change, and in a few years the statistics will change for the better. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/142960/skolko-u-rossii-tankov-sovremennyie-tanki-rossii-tya
      jelyie-tanki-rossii-luchshiy-tank-rossii-foto .......
      The article was published in 2014.
  25. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 16 December 2015 23: 04 New
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    While and how much time we are waiting for Armata, maybe it would be nice for our MO to purchase several hundred 90's. 72s upgraded of course well, but obviously they are not pulled to their level.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 17 December 2015 04: 22 New
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      on the balance sheet of the Ministry of Defense there are no less than 18 177 units of the mentioned military equipment. Of these, the T-72Б tanks (7144 pcs.), T-80 (4744 pcs.) Are the basis Few?
      And with whom, in the future, are we going to organize tank battles in the near future? We won't be able to wait until the "Armata", and the T-90, for export, and the same money for a new tank. And, it will turn out, first we will rearm on the T-90, and then on the T-14, won't we get tired?
      1. maxbrov74
        maxbrov74 19 December 2015 21: 04 New
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        When in the first month of a serious war the high-precision weapons run out of power, everyone will very quickly return to the concept of mass armies and powerful tank columns. Unlike the T-14, which will continue to exist in the form of a few prototypes for a long time, the T-90 is a really proven tank, in its performance characteristics it is a cut above the T-72 and T-80.
  26. RVSN
    RVSN 16 December 2015 23: 30 New
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    Break-in of the T-90 is necessary, it will be correct to look at the results of using the tank. Finalize, draw conclusions, and apply for our army !!! http://catcut.net/CwC
  27. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh 16 December 2015 23: 46 New
    +1
    The general’s surname is cool and the camouflage is valid.
  28. uge.garik
    uge.garik 17 December 2015 03: 53 New
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    ... And rightly so, the Saudis are collecting shoblu for themselves without Iraq and Syria, but to fight terrorism ... Nothing, doesn’t remind ..?
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 17 December 2015 05: 38 New
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    the arms market has not been canceled, because we are trading, and Armata already needs to be put on the stream ...
  30. Varies
    Varies 17 December 2015 10: 35 New
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    Quote: pexotinec
    We must play with Iran according to our rules. And do not be cunning yourself. Iran has not fired yet

    Well, at least there the leadership is many times more adequate than in Turkey, and the 90s-00s did not support terrorists in the North Caucasus and fought against them at its borders. Although the Persians also fought quite a lot, they remembered the history lesson well and made the right conclusions.
  31. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 19 December 2015 16: 08 New
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    That's right, Persians! Buy our equipment and weapons. They are the best, or at least some of the best in the world! And Russia is a reliable partner. Forward! And let the others take their place in the queue. Friends and partners - welcome, and enemies and enemies - "shish with butter"!
  32. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 19 December 2015 17: 15 New
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    When the main thing is not show off, and the quality and price of the country choose Russian weapons.
  33. isergil
    isergil 19 December 2015 18: 57 New
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    Iranians treat Russians well, although they bargain like hell. They require the highest quality. You can sell, but with a profit. Have to bargain violently. Interestingly, the country is not at war, and military patrols are everywhere, especially in the bay area. The country is on its guard, and rightly so.