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"Bloomberg": The US Congress agreed to lift the ban on oil exports from the United States, which has been in force for 40 years

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Information Agency Bloomberg reports that the Congress was able to agree on the lifting of the ban on the export of hydrocarbons from the United States. Recall that such a ban has been in effect for about 40 years (since 1975). At the same time, the source of Bloomberg argues that such a decision is already behind the scenes approved by the leaders of political movements in both houses of the American parliament. However, there is no evidence of when the decision of the Congress will officially enter into force, and will it enter?


Meanwhile, American experts say that congressmen’s statements alone can once again lower the bar for world oil prices. In certain expert circles they say that the cost of a barrel of oil in the world in connection with the lifting of the US ban on the export of "black gold" can sink to 20 dollars.

"Bloomberg": The US Congress agreed to lift the ban on oil exports from the United States, which has been in force for 40 years


However, there is an alternative point of view on this. For example, in Saxo Bank presented a forecast that in the 2016 year, the OPEC countries could still decide to reduce the level of oil production, which will inevitably lead to higher prices for hydrocarbons. The American decision to lift the ban on oil exports from the United States is capable of giving impetus to the OPEC countries, because the vast majority of countries involved in oil exports are not going to saturate the already oversaturated black gold market. The forecast of the said Saxo Bank says that in 2016, the OPEC decision is able to “accelerate” the price of a barrel to the psychological mark in 100 dollars.
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  1. A-Sim
    A-Sim 16 December 2015 14: 21 New
    +3
    Who will buy it? China is enough for now.
    1. pg4
      pg4 16 December 2015 14: 23 New
      +2
      The excess of black gold on the market for a long time, but prices are still falling.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 16 December 2015 14: 28 New
        +4
        При одном только упоминании, что запасы нефти в США упали, цена на эту нефть сразу же поднимается. А если США будут экспортировать "чёрное золото", то соответственно запасы её в стране уменьшатся, а отсюда и цена на неё должна подняться. Вот такой парадокс. Может я не прав, кто в курсе поясните.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 16 December 2015 14: 40 New
          +6
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          At the mere mention of the fact that oil reserves in the United States have fallen, the price of this oil rises immediately.
          Nope ... The market is dead.
          And that is why, shale oil producers in the US are reviewing their proven reserves ... suddenly.winked
          For example, 1,1 billions of barrels of oil will disappear from Chesapeake Energy’s reports. Or about half of all its stocks. Oasis Petroleum has three stocks, and Bill Barrett has 40%. And this is not all such cases.

          And the question arises, where and whose oil will they supply? Kohl everywhere is a recession.
        2. TUNISIA
          TUNISIA 16 December 2015 14: 42 New
          14
          The USA is the largest consumer of hydrocarbons: 16 million barrels per day. Own production is slightly less than 10 million bar. / Day. Total: 6 million will have to be purchased. What they decided to put on the market is not clear. To do this, you need to increase your own production by at least 65%. That is, even today, the states are not able to secure their domestic demand, not to mention export. The decision is likely to be formal.
          1. kalibr
            kalibr 16 December 2015 15: 43 New
            0
            To sell something unnecessary, you need to buy the unnecessary! (Cat Matroskin)
          2. Agent J
            Agent J 16 December 2015 16: 07 New
            +3
            Вот собственно и вопрос - "А ЧЬЮ нефть они будут продавать под видом своей?" hi
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 16 December 2015 17: 42 New
              +2
              Цитата: Агент J
              "А ЧЬЮ нефть они будут продавать под видом своей?" hi

              I have been tormented by this question since the fall of the Gaddafi regime. what
              From there, there is absolutely no news ... request A tanker go regularly ... not to visit and empty go.what Ведь падение Ирака и Ливии,чудеснейшим образом совпало с началом сланцевой "революции"... repeat
              And then the Russian videoconferencing and the Iraqi Armed Forces igilovsky oil traders are firing .... and shale explored reserves suddenly decrease ... what a coincidence.bully
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 16 December 2015 22: 00 New
                +1
                From ISIS in Libya to buy for 10 bucks per barrel and directly from there, with their tankers, send to buyers, but for 35 dollars.
        3. cap
          cap 16 December 2015 15: 21 New
          +8
          The ban on oil exports to the United States was justified by the preservation of strategic reserves in the event of circumstances that are exactly the opposite of today. That is, the cessation of supplies or their complete cessation. Something like a military NZ.
          Declaration on the lifting of the export ban, a mental attack on world markets. The goal is the same. To destroy Russia in the same way as the USSR.
          Indeed, the tried and tested method proved to be effective. Why reinvent the wheel. Another factor is money for oil. All of them are denominated in dollars. Their owners range from Saudi princes to .... There’s a lot of it. Dollars are not in their native harbor, under jurisdiction in pocket countries.
          All attempts to return them, convert to other currencies, and other actions, such as deoffshorization by any government, fall into the category of criminal, suspicious (illegal, corrupt, etc.).
          Iran does not need to go far for an example; Libya is a long list.
          And if you are a private person, you can recall Pinocchio from a fairy tale about the Golden Key.
          That is, when the money tree grows, only the Fox and the Cat know.
          Such wooden dolls in the cabinet of Karabas Barabas (State Department) for a whole puppet theater.
          The last ingenious move of Karabas Barabas does not pay the debtor in case of default of the whole country.
          Сцена поворачивается, "будем посмотреть" hi
          It's like that gopher which is not there but it is.
      2. serg1970
        serg1970 16 December 2015 14: 30 New
        +2
        Prices are falling for everything. On color, on steel. The problem is to reduce the needs of a falling industry, and it is falling precisely because of overproduction. And then one after another in a circle. In short, the classic economic crisis is only the scale this time around the world.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 16 December 2015 14: 31 New
        19
        Quote: pg4
        The excess of black gold on the market for a long time, but prices are still falling.

        I’m wondering - what money did we launch Gagarin with? Oil and gas weren’t traded then ... Does that mean there was no money in the country at all? Yes, it was like ... Something was missing, something was in short supply - but Sputnik and Gagarin somehow mastered it without petrodollars ... I’m silent about the war ... It is only in American textbooks that Lend-Lease made a decisive contribution to our Victory. Gee-gee ... And also after all, they managed without petrodollars. And in stable stagnation, oil was $ 10 - and enough for everything.

        Maybe just redistribute income from the sale of oil and gas? Then 20 raccoons per barrel is enough for everything ...
        1. pg4
          pg4 16 December 2015 14: 42 New
          +2
          The fact of the matter is that there was enough for priority goods for the defense industry, space, science, etc. but you should not forget about the total deficit at sunset of the USSR.
          1. Cerega
            Cerega 16 December 2015 16: 19 New
            +1
            Total deficit or total indifference and sloppiness multiplied by errors in a planned economy?
          2. Cerega
            Cerega 16 December 2015 16: 19 New
            0
            Total deficit or total indifference and sloppiness multiplied by errors in a planned economy?
          3. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 December 2015 20: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: pg4
            do not forget about the total deficit at sunset of the USSR

            Gagarin was launched not at sunset in the USSR.

            And about the total deficit ... Тот, кто курит, помнит, как летом 90-го года случился сигаретный дефицит. Как "Прима" вместо 16 копеек в магазине стоила 2 рубля у цыган на улице. Так вот в то лето from the 22s tobacco factories in the USSR at the same time stood up, for various reasons, 16! Accident ???? Errors of a planned economy ??? Lack of market relations ???? am

            А сейчас то с гречкой, то с солью, то ещё с чем то же самое творится периодически - тоже "ошибки плановой экономики?????"
        2. Pulya
          Pulya 16 December 2015 15: 07 New
          +7
          Zoldat_A
          Maybe just redistribute income from the sale of oil and gas? Then 20 raccoons per barrel is enough for everything ...[/ Quote]

          Stop pumping Nevedolars into US securities and we have enough for our eyes !!!
          Unless of course on a business ...
        3. kazachyok69
          kazachyok69 16 December 2015 16: 01 New
          -4
          I’m wondering - what money did we launch Gagarin with?

          Кто это "Мы"??? Не Вы ТОЧНО! Страна Не та! Или Вы Россию СССР считаете? Строй другой....Люди другие.....Понятия другие абсолютно...
          Персонально Вам...чтобы что нибудь сделать (создать заводы к примеру) нужно "бесплатно" поработать миллионам человек.. Вы Лично готовы к этому? И в отличии от СССР "бесплатно поработать" надо сейчас не на государство, а на конкретного Дядю который присвоит себе ВСЁ... Так что не говорите "Мы запустили"..
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 December 2015 20: 10 New
            +3
            Quote: kazachyok69
            Кто это "Мы"??? Не Вы ТОЧНО!

            Когда я говорю "Мы" - то это я и моё поколение. ТОЧНО! И мне ТОЧНО и воевать за свою страну пришлось, и строить. И для космоса в том числе.

            А вот ВЫ ТОЧНО, вернее, ваше поколение, 25-летних, ничего, кроме офисов и "Ашанов" не построили. Дожёвываете остатки СССР и в нас же, старых пней, плюёте.

            To know that SUCH will grow, EXACTLY would choke in childhood ...
            1. kazachyok69
              kazachyok69 17 December 2015 09: 42 New
              -4
              Strangle yourself Old Man Handwheel .... Builder-Warrior and Launcher ... Funny ... How old are you? Choke, why live so long?
      4. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 16 December 2015 15: 11 New
        +5
        США являются самым крупным потребителем нефти и нефтепродуктов. Практически все, так называемые, сланцевые месторождения нефти расположены в пределах известных нефтеносных провинций и относятся к трудноизвлекаемым (из-за низкой проницаемости вмещающих пород). В этом можно удостовериться, посмотрев на следы сланцевой добычи в Google maps. Там отчётливо видно, как сланцевые скважины располагаются рядом с "качалками". Вся эта история и сказка о дешёвой сланцевой нефти, по факту - грандиозная афёра, была создана для снижения цен на углеводородное сырье, в которых так нуждается США - страна потребляющая сверх меры всё и от этого имеющая огромные долги, которые растут, как снежный ком. Сказка о дешёвой сланцевой нефти - это одна из мер по попытке снизить свой государственный долг. Параллельно США дестабилизируют ситуацию по всему миру тоже из-за своего долга. Вероятно пытаются избавиться от него.
    2. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 16 December 2015 14: 25 New
      13
      I do not blurt out on the topic, but oil is getting cheaper, and there is no gasoline, do financial laws work for us or not ???
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 16 December 2015 14: 29 New
        11
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        do we have financial laws or not ???

        I will say more - Putin asked the same question at one of the meetings last year .... The main players dropped the price by 15-35 kopecks, and then caught up with the current ones and are not going to lower them. For business and nothing personal. And there is no crime for which capital will not go for the sake of 300% profit.
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 16 December 2015 15: 21 New
          +2
          Пора "Красному и белому" уже свои заправки открывать laughing
      2. serg1970
        serg1970 16 December 2015 14: 33 New
        +2
        And why would she fall in rubles? The cost of production and taxes in them darling. In dollars, gasoline is almost penny compared to the west.

        Another thing is that with the increase in oil prices in the world market, our price should not rise. Well, except that with rising prices for imported equipment, the cost price is gradually growing. So in order to level it you need to produce your own.
      3. Foxmara
        Foxmara 16 December 2015 14: 51 New
        +2
        Stalin
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        I do not blurt out on the topic, but oil is getting cheaper, and there is no gasoline, do financial laws work for us or not ???

        This is one of the main paradoxes of our universe. He is unresolvable even by Putin. Because GDP doesn’t want to be Stalin, then the question remains .. until the next Stalin .. However, the zeal that the liberals reveal in search of Putin’s treasures can indirectly show their secret dream of a ruler with one military tunic and a pair of boots.
      4. kazachyok69
        kazachyok69 16 December 2015 16: 54 New
        -2
        Yeah ... only here, importers sell this oil for dollars (or euros) ...... Do you count how much a liter of gasoline now costs in foreign currency? Cheap!!!! The dollar has nothing to do with it? We are not the USSR now!
    3. atalef
      atalef 16 December 2015 14: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: A-Sim
      Who will buy it? China is enough for now.

      Yes, there’s nothing to sell. US oil production is half that of imports, but this will have a great psychological effect and will give the opportunity to play lower supply if prices rise.
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 16 December 2015 14: 47 New
      +3
      And given the transportation of this oil across the ocean, it will not come out expensive for customers?
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 16 December 2015 15: 13 New
      +4
      Apparently, the United States decided to lower oil to $ 20. The main reason for the decline in oil is an oversupply, and a decrease in demand. If now, American oil starts to enter the market, and the USA produces 13 million barrels per day, plus Iran will soon return to the market, then all this will in any case have a negative impact on the price.

      Conclusion: we need to move from the export of crude oil to its deep processing. And to export not crude oil, but already finished products with high added value. Plus, you need to lower gas prices for domestic use.

      However, I do not think that the liberal wing of our government, which is responsible for economic development, will do any of this ...
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 16 December 2015 15: 33 New
        +2
        So for reference. For the 9 months of this year, we received about $ 62 billion from oil exports, and more than $ 50 billion from oil products. Almost all over the country, new oil refining lines are constantly being introduced. There is nothing new here. The state has been engaged in increasing oil product deliveries for several years. It was just profitable to sell crude oil, all the more so because it was constant quick money for which it was possible to build infrastructure, pay debts and rearm the army. Now, in order to get the same profit, you have to sell more oil and therefore it has been refined more than before.
        In general, the situation is strange. The main exporters are Saudis and the Russian Federation are constantly increasing oil production, the price of oil rush. That is, we ourselves are intensely ruining them. In custody, many are already ready to reduce production in order to raise prices, but the Saudis do not give it there. And here we also do not agree, although infa slipped that such proposals have already been received. Of course, the situation is extremely dark, which means that there can be any forecasts about oil prices, but so far it is not clear who and what is playing, all these forecasts are forks on water. hi
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 16 December 2015 15: 15 New
      +1
      Well, they can’t but do disgust for us, even to their own detriment - after all, shale oil is profitable at a price of at least 60 bucks per barrel.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 16 December 2015 16: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Tor5
        Well, they can’t but do disgust for us, even to their own detriment - after all, shale oil is profitable at a price of at least 60 bucks per barrel.

        It is believed that they did not give a damn about the profitability of shale oil - all the fuss with it was arranged to lower world oil prices, but they were able to reduce them by other mechanisms, so everyone quietly forgot about the shale ...
    7. vodolaz
      vodolaz 16 December 2015 15: 25 New
      0
      What will they sell then? They do not have enough of their own oil. A populist move.
  2. sannych
    sannych 16 December 2015 14: 21 New
    10
    Meanwhile, American experts say that congressmen’s statements alone can once again lower the bar for world oil prices.
    It is believed that such statements are being made for this purpose.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 16 December 2015 14: 29 New
      +4
      I support 100%. precisely for this purpose.
  3. prabiz
    prabiz 16 December 2015 14: 24 New
    0
    And the delivery will be golden!
  4. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 16 December 2015 14: 26 New
    +4
    It is precisely the American decision to lift the ban on US oil exports that is capable of giving impetus to OPEC countries, because the vast majority of countries exporting oil do not intend to oversaturate the already oversaturated black gold market. The forecast of the said Saxo Bank says that in 2016, the OPEC decision is able to “disperse” the price of a barrel to a psychological mark of $ 100.


    Думается что подобное маловероятно. Решение о продаже американской нефти в очередной раз ударит по нам, а уж поддержать любую игру против России саудиты готовы всегда. В ОПЕК "первую скрипку" страны залива играют давно, так что имею большие сомнения по поводу эпилога информации.
    Something like that, subjective opinion, colleagues. hi
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 16 December 2015 14: 26 New
    +2
    The forecast of the said Saxo Bank says that in 2016, the OPEC decision is able to “disperse” the price of a barrel to a psychological mark of $ 100.

    This thankless task is a forecast, especially in the current conditions.
  6. lopvlad
    lopvlad 16 December 2015 14: 27 New
    +4
    With the lifting of the ban on the export of "black gold" the United States could sink up to $ 20.

    Will the US sell its oil for $ 20 with delivery to customers around the world? Don’t make my sneakers laugh. They will be strangled before.
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 16 December 2015 14: 33 New
      0
      Ваши тапки или американцы?! А,если в тему, это будет сланцевая нефть США?! Или её будут беречь на "чёрный день", а торговать другим видом нефти?!Вопрос к нефтяникам на сайте hi
    2. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 16 December 2015 14: 36 New
      +1
      They will not be strangled before crushing Russia.
      17 lard of public debt, uncontrolled work of the machine of the Federal Reserve System, refusal to let representatives of the countries investing in foreign exchange reserves into Fort Knox to check the availability of gold in these countries ....
      Unscrupulousness and lawlessness - this is the hobby of modern USA. And they have accumulated fat over the entire period of their existence.
      1. GSVG 86-88
        GSVG 86-88 16 December 2015 14: 42 New
        +3
        ... 17 thousand lard ...
      2. 15ghost10
        15ghost10 16 December 2015 14: 47 New
        +2
        у штатов госдолг уже 18,6 трлн., а с учетом деривативов - около 76 трлн. И хотел сказать по поводу сланцевой нефти. Она если и есть то в ничтожном количестве, ее добыча в штатах напоминает времена "Золотой лихорадки". Никого не удивило, что "сланцевый нефтяной бум" расцвел после Ливии и Сирии, когда оттуда можно было вывозить нефть ( или типа "покупать" у ИГИЛа) по 10-15 дол/бар. под видом сланцевой нефть.
  7. Gani
    Gani 16 December 2015 14: 30 New
    +2
    Well, regarding the forecast of saxo bank - they themselves say that these are forecasts-horror stories from the category of possible and logical but unlikely events ...
    and in terms of oil, Brent equaled the price of light Texas oil: 1. + for the American oil industry, incl. shale oil, 2. for the FRS it is very important to increase inflation - and even slightly more expensive oil (albeit relatively brent) is + for the Fed, 3. ISIS oil must be put somewhere (they say the Americans have it, that's why oil production does not drop ) and at the same time you can’t finish your oil industry - this is again +. 4. Brent, and, accordingly, the Uralaz is getting cheaper and it will become more profitable for the Saudis to actively drag their own to Europe, and this is additional pressure on the Russian Federation.
    1. Gani
      Gani 16 December 2015 14: 45 New
      +2
      п.с.: И вообще мое совсем не экспертное мнение - давление на РФ все же не самая важная часть в этой игре с дешевой нефтью. Крупные ТНК как бы проспали сланцевую революцию и 90 процентов добычи сланцевиков давала "мелочь пузатая", у доброй части сланцевых компаний было по 1-3 вышки, зато сейчас рынок консолидируется -скупаются участки, лицензии и прочее. Так что я думаю в основе всего банальный - картельный сговор с целью расчистки рынка от "сорняков" и крупных конкурентов тоже поджать(инвестиции сокращаются везде), а потом снова можно будет держать цену которая удобна - и ОПЕК вдруг снова станет свои обязанности четко исполнять и теми же скупленными сланцами можно будет регулировать добычу административно а не рыночно. Ну заодно и политические вопросы решаются - под ударом и РФ и Венесуэла и т.д.
  8. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 16 December 2015 14: 32 New
    +3
    Yemenis need to throw the coordinates of the Saudi oil terminals to target missiles, and there you look and oil prices go up, and the financing of pasties cease
  9. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 16 December 2015 14: 33 New
    +3
    Why write it. Yes, even for nothing. Gas will still go up. It was 140 = more expensive, it will be 20 - it will go up again. Maybe in order to buy a barrel by itself, but to process it in a garage, gasoline will become cheaper. Auto repair private traders in the garage, and I learn to distill gasoline)))
    1. Aleksey888
      Aleksey888 16 December 2015 15: 11 New
      +1
      Why study? Buy a moonshine.
  10. _my opinion
    _my opinion 16 December 2015 14: 33 New
    0
    ? when oil was many times more expensive so they sat, and now they suddenly decided to sell?
    Well, you lifted the ban, but nothing that your shale oil industry can barely move ... squeaked, that at a price lower
    50 dollars it will be shitty, but here below 40 ...
    entertaining, if after some time prices suddenly rise sharply, profitability will increase
    US shale oil industry and they (those from the Amer oil industry who stay afloat) will start to profit.
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  12. Vvp
    Vvp 16 December 2015 14: 34 New
    +6
    Americans competently enter the market with a low price, occupy their share. The trusteeship will reduce production, the price rises and Americans' revenue rises, banks, traders and so on are enriched in parallel. And next year, the first LNG will be taken to Europe. Strangle Mother Russia!
  13. lpd1
    lpd1 16 December 2015 14: 34 New
    +1
    Shale oil and gas are ordered to live long with mining companies. The return of green papers to the homeland of their manufacturer will lead to a repetition of the 1929 crisis. And at the present time, with the presence of Brix this is a complete US Arctic fox.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 December 2015 14: 36 New
    +1
    Not everything is lost. fellow
    Obama promised to veto Congressional decision.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 16 December 2015 14: 41 New
      +3
      Oh, and when Obama puts the thread, oh he will. In the pants
  15. Woodman
    Woodman 16 December 2015 14: 40 New
    +1
    This is probably the last trump card in trying to squeeze Russia ... There are no other real explanations. They did not export oil at a price of more than a hundred bucks, and when the price decreases, they are going to start exporting, despite the fact that this will reduce the price of oil even more ...
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 December 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    Цену на "чёрное золото" надо было бы поднять! А то как то не красиво получается, что цена бочки нефти дешевле, чем литр бензина в нашей стране. Это уже не то что издевательство, это больше.
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 December 2015 14: 46 New
    0
    I wonder if a barrel of oil can cost zero bucks? Weak? laughing
  18. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 16 December 2015 14: 48 New
    0
    The actions of the United States remind me of cramps, they do everything to make the price of oil fall. Well, it will fall. By and large, a further decline will no longer choke our economy, it’s just the limit. Then what will they do? They will achieve that they themselves will fall into a deep crisis, which they cannot get out of for a long time, but they do not have the proper experience to deal with economic difficulties.
  19. Roust
    Roust 16 December 2015 14: 51 New
    +1
    An empty bazaar and nothing more. They themselves do not have enough oil for the domestic market. So there is nothing to scare. Passed already.
  20. newcomer
    newcomer 16 December 2015 14: 55 New
    +4
    Oh, the Yankees freaked out. nothing came of the sanctions, float the last trump card. from this, they, too, will not have anything from Russia. even funny.
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 December 2015 14: 56 New
    0
    Matrasia buys about half of the oil on the side. The only thing she can do on the world market is to redirect flows from one coast to another. How can balance a country that consumes more oil than it produces?
  22. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 16 December 2015 14: 59 New
    +1
    Yes, let it fall. Maybe at least it will make those who were obliged to do it work yesterday. And if the Fed also raises the rate today? ... How long can you live by looking at Uncle Sam's mouth? Tired of it!
  23. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 16 December 2015 15: 01 New
    0
    Quote: dchegrinec
    Цену на "чёрное золото" надо было бы поднять! А то как то не красиво получается, что цена бочки нефти дешевле, чем литр бензина в нашей стране. Это уже не то что издевательство, это больше.

    And the fact that Texas and the Arabian sands are not Bashkiria is not Tyumen and others and the costs there are much lower because the climate is milder and warmer, this also needs to be taken into account in the Saudis and oil ports near oil fields
  24. Engineer
    Engineer 16 December 2015 15: 06 New
    +5
    These are convulsions already in the United States: attempts to collapse the Russian economy by cutting the oil and gas budget segment failed. Yes, they managed to close the southern stream, spread transit Ukraine, send the Baltic mongrels to the northern stream, yes, they and the sheikhs filled the oil market with cheap oil, yes, they filled the black market with cheap oil from ISIS, they wanted to implement a gas pipeline for Europe through Turkey from Qatar. But how did they miscalculate the military operation in Syria. I’m not sure that everyone here thinks that our military is there only because of the ISIS terrorist threat to our country. Not only. The main thing, and the main thing, is to sharply reduce the flow of cheap oil on the black market and deprive Qatar of plans for a pipeline to Europe. Yes, it looks like protecting the interests of our oligarchs by military methods. But let's be realistic - the lion's share of the budget is oil and gas dollars. Therefore, it is in the interests of the state as a whole. The liquefied gas from Qatar is not our competitor. Yes, the States promise to fully provide Europe with liquefied gas, but who needs it much more than ours? Of course, the States can dampen the price and to the detriment of themselves, in order to soak Europe into its own gas, but how long will this last? The fall in oil prices is artificial, all these tales about crises to divert eyes. What, many banks went bankrupt in Europe or the United States? Maybe which corporations have closed? Everything is within normal limits. The goal here is clear. I am not paranoid, but a lot of mind, to understand all these attempts is not necessary. Or can someone explain to me why the world's largest oil consumer decided to start exporting it? Sorry for the many letters.
    1. atalef
      atalef 16 December 2015 18: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Engineer
      the convulsions are already in the United States: attempts to collapse the Russian economy by cutting the oil and gas budget segment failed

      Next in line for gas this year, LNG prices fell by 65%
      In 2016, the bulk of fixed-price contracts ends.
      In 2016, a serious redistribution of the gas market will begin.
      At the same time, consumption will grow by 50 million tons, and supply by 120 million tons.
      The consequences are clear - prices will collapse even more.
      Quote: Engineer
      Yes, they managed to close the southern stream, spread transit Ukraine, send the Baltic mongrels to the northern stream, yes, they and the sheikhs filled the oil market with cheap oil, yes, they filled the black market with cheap oil from ISIS, they wanted to implement a gas pipeline for Europe through Turkey from Qatar. But how did they miscalculate the military operation in Syria.

      You have given a rather large list of Russia's financial losses, how does the operation in Syria compensate for these losses?
      Quote: Engineer
      I’m not sure that everyone here thinks that our military is there only because of ISIS’s terrorist threat to our country. Not only. The main thing, and the main thing, is to drastically reduce the flow of cheap oil on the black market and deprive Qatar of plans for a pipeline to Europe.

      I think you don’t understand one thing - ISIS, with its insignificant share in world production) - do not in any way affect world production and the bombing of ISIS in no way affected the price (it continues to fall). and according to your conclusions - it seems like it should rise
      About gas. This is such a fairy tale. which does not stand up to criticism.
      Qatar has a huge fleet of LNG. And the gas pipeline through Syria (which seems to be completely incomprehensible to why Assad 0 would have resisted all the same would pass. Only not Syrian, but Iranian. An agreement on this was signed and Iran even began to build it. So this is your argument - by.

      Quote: Engineer
      The liquefied gas from Qatar is not our competitor.

      Well, judging by the drop in gas prices --- the same competitor
      Quote: Engineer
      The fall in oil prices is artificial, all these tales about crises to divert eyes.

      You can call it what you want. If I tell you that raising oil prices was even more artificial, will this help you?
      the realities are as follows. that oil prices have fallen for a long time, whether you like it or not, but you have to live with it
  25. cap
    cap 16 December 2015 15: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Engineer
    But let's be realistic - the lion's share of the budget is oil and gas dollars. Therefore, it is in the interests of the state as a whole.

    The tablet would see where the debit with a loan from a lion. wassat
  26. nemec55
    nemec55 16 December 2015 15: 48 New
    -4
    In certain expert circles, they say that the cost of a barrel of oil in the world in connection with the lifting of the US ban on the export of "black gold" can go down to $ 20.

    Plush on the scaffold immediately, the team on the bunk, Glazyev in the prime minister Volodka on the galley wassat
  27. aviator1913
    aviator1913 16 December 2015 16: 16 New
    +1
    This decision is dictated by many reasons. Starting from the fall, the price of oil, ending with the fact that in the United States run out of capacity to fill oil. Tanks do not have time to build as much as they are produced and delivered under contracts. Therefore, this decision should help American producers, if necessary, to supply oil to places where there are tanks. (Europe, South America, Japan, etc.)

    In fact, the solution is very good for the producers, because now there is no headache with the location of the oil. Now there is a competitor to the domestic consumer. Given the fact that wells can be temporarily blocked at a low oil price, and if the price increases, they open again and the oil flows again, but now it can be immediately sent to Asian or any other market under hot contracts. It also improves the resource price control lever for the US government and adds an export touch to existing instruments.

    The bad news for us, due to diplomatic efforts, the presence of a large number of allies, the presence of a large number of ports and other infrastructure, adds stress to the price of oil, we get a trigger that can be pressed every time the oil wants to grow, it can be dropped, this without resorting to financial instruments, but only by opening your wells and valves, which will further reduce our financial reserves.
    1. atalef
      atalef 16 December 2015 18: 11 New
      0
      Quote: aviator1913
      In fact, the solution is very good for the producers, because now there is no headache with the location of the oil. Now there is a competitor for the domestic consumer

      Yes . with the beginning of export gasoline in the States will rise in price. it is a fact.
      1. aviator1913
        aviator1913 17 December 2015 11: 58 New
        0
        Yes . with the beginning of export gasoline in the States will rise in price. it is a fact.


        There is more psychological effect, plus oil can be supplied to chemical plants that were actively built in the Caribbean in recent years. Vertically integrated holdings will be able to win on this.
  28. valentine
    valentine 16 December 2015 16: 49 New
    -3
    Well, the end of Putin's gas station?
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 16 December 2015 17: 00 New
      +2
      Well, you, right now, jump in. Uzbagoysya our hut will figure it out ourselves. Heartburn will plague you from our resources, if only we would give it to you like that ???
      And so nothing terrible was worried.
  29. valentine
    valentine 16 December 2015 17: 07 New
    -3
    Yes, no, it’s just time to start fulfilling the words of John the Theologian, otherwise your Shalomov’s power has completely tired you.
  30. Mera joota
    Mera joota 16 December 2015 17: 08 New
    0
    It’s not enough funny ... Terrible times are coming ... Lucky for anyone who has more rounds ...
  31. sinoptic
    sinoptic 16 December 2015 18: 04 New
    0
    Quote: valentine
    Yes, no, it’s just time to start fulfilling the words of John the Theologian, otherwise your Shalomov’s power has completely tired you.

    ... and do not speak.
    This is what! This is just the beginning, fatigue is yours ...
    The next step is to wait for bad roads.
  32. valentine
    valentine 16 December 2015 18: 29 New
    -1
    But are they good roads? Recently, a world rating on road quality was released, our place in it is as usual at the end, probably one Volgograd region spoiled all the statistics
    (?).
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 16 December 2015 19: 37 New
    +1
    Oil production in the United States was artificially limited, and then everything depends on price, American oil is more than competitive. In addition, oil and gas markets are now being freed from various losers with a single economy and it makes sense to take their share in the future.
    Fantasy like this might look something like this - in collusion with the Saudis, bring down prices, bankrupt and occupy the market of Venezuela, Nigeria, and Russia. With the help of ISIS, destroy the Saudis, Iraq, Iran, occupy their market - MONOPOLY. All major oil and gas producers are somehow controlled or destroyed - $ 500 oil, profit. China with oil is barely breathing for 500. Due to the profit, oil inside America for $ 10, a competitive advantage and superprofits for their own, all the rest in line to lick the owner’s hand.
  34. Killj
    Killj 16 December 2015 23: 07 New
    -2
    Soon, 35 bucks per barrel would seem like a gift from heaven, but how many are there in the budget? Drill holes in the belts to tighten the gentlemen of the public sector.