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Changes in the volume of Russian investments in US bonds

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The US Treasury Department reported that it reported that in October of this year Russia reduced its investments in US bonds by more than 7 billions of dollars. If by the beginning of October the amount of investments was about 89,1 billion dollars, by the beginning of November Russia's investments in American debts are $ 82 billion.


It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.

Today, according to RIA News, Russia occupies the 15 line in the position of countries investing in the US national debt. If Russia continues to get rid of US government bonds, in the near future it can move the line below. For the time being, this line is occupied by Germany with 81,6 billion dollars of investments.

Changes in the volume of Russian investments in US bonds


The first two places (traditionally for the last years) are held by China and Japan. However, it should be noted that these countries have seriously reduced their investments in American debt. However, the sum of investments of Japan and China in the US government bonds and now remains more than impressive. For two, it's more than 3,3 trillion. dollars. This is about 17,5% of total US debt.
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  2. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 16 December 2015 12: 54 New
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    "вложения в американский долг" это бесполезное действо-всё равно,что к пожару воду носить в дуршлагах...
    1. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 16 December 2015 13: 04 New
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      Russia in October of this year reduced its investment in US bonds by more than 7 billion dollars.

      - The beginning is good, but something o-very slowly, we UNDERSTAND them!
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 16 December 2015 13: 08 New
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        82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come! sad (We have 146 million people. And here 82 billion tanks lie down.)
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 16 December 2015 13: 13 New
          22
          82 billion tanks (!) In folk ho
          ---------------------------------
          Holy naivety! At the beginning of the year, $ 1 trillion was allocated to save banks. Rubles. Of these, 883 billion are lying dead on deposits and immediately:
          the benefit of refusing indexation to working retirees is 87 billion a year.

          Drawing from an article on a neighboring branch.
          1. Temples
            Temples 16 December 2015 13: 32 New
            21
            82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

            And who needs it?
            Specific people are behind investing in the American economy.
            These people decided that investing in America is more profitable for them.
            No need to complicate.
            Which liberals need a strong Russia?
            1. spiriolla-45
              spiriolla-45 16 December 2015 14: 08 New
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              So I’m talking about why the whole comedy with patriotism and US confrontation, if we finance our enemy ourselves?
              There are ghouls in the Kremlin who work only in their own pocket and serve corporations. People cut their pensions, they increase the communal, but they don’t forget to date the states, this is sacred.
            2. Horst78
              Horst78 16 December 2015 14: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Temples
              Temples (5) RU Today, 13: 32 ↑ New

              82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

              And who needs it?
              Over investment in the American national economy there are specific people.
              These people decided that investing in America is more profitable for them.
              No need to complicate.
              Which liberals need a strong Russia?

              Sorry, but what is the American economy? Walt Street? Then yes, into it.
            3. ty60
              ty60 17 December 2015 00: 25 New
              -1
              Why Russia rule .. citizens of the fifth column?
          2. 16112014nk
            16112014nk 16 December 2015 15: 05 New
            +2
            According to the internal economic (so-called) policy, one cannot invest one's money in one's own economy. But the money of foreign investors is possible. But they (investors) for some reason do not go here. Maybe Medvedev ask, why?
            1. cap
              cap 16 December 2015 17: 08 New
              +1
              Quote: 16112014nk
              According to the internal economic (so-called) policy, one cannot invest one's money in one's own economy. But the money of foreign investors is possible. But they (investors) for some reason do not go here. Maybe Medvedev ask, why?



              Investors expect at least to receive a refund in five years. After reading VO at their leisure, one can imagine what will happen to Medvedev in 5 years.
              And they also know about corruption from the primary sources.
              On his people, Medvedev D.A. and to, they look at unreasonable children, giving the money they will spend on cinema, chips and lollipops.
              Но уж точно не на трактор "мейд эн раша" чтобы пахать, сеять,собирать урожай,сохранять, продавать,отчислять на пенсию,отдавать проценты банку и спокойно готовиться сначала на пенсию, а потом и в мир иной.
              So long, boring, uninteresting.
              Today it’s easier to get a loan on bail, drink money, declare yourself bankrupt. Curtain. Everyone is happy.
              You do not have a credit card Visa from Herman Gref at 26% per annum, which means you have not yet arrived. Wait. hi
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 16 December 2015 19: 12 New
            0
            And you are aware that we have banks, the population, organizations and firms stick out 16 trillion rubles - in the form of overdue loans.
            1. cap
              cap 16 December 2015 19: 48 New
              0
              Bankruptcy law passed. Maybe this will solve the problem.
              In fact, the figure flashed over 20.
              I am sure there will be more.
              I am very sorry. Unfortunately, the solution to the problem lies beyond the scope of a simple discussion.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 16 December 2015 13: 36 New
          10
          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

          Thanks to Kudrin and all his predecessors, they invested in hamburgers for American people with disabilities for obesity and in American wars around the world ....

          I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but я правильно понимаю, что ВСЕ эти 82 млрд баков можно предъявить к оплате примерно так, как в своё время де Голль с пароходом долларов "пошутил"? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 16 December 2015 14: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            ALL of these 82 billion tanks can be presented for payment

            можно, конечно. Не факт, что сразу оплатят, и не факт, что вообще оплатят - найдется "тысяча причин" заявить, что "обойдетесь, Россия - вы войну в Украине развязали!". И даже если выплатят, вопрос
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            how much the next day after such a presentation will the dollar cost?

            looks naive - excuse me hi : Compare 82 billion to 19 trillion of the total public debt?
            They have one Pentagon budget 6-7 times more.
          2. _my opinion
            _my opinion 16 December 2015 14: 45 New
            +6
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: gray smeet
            82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

            Thanks to Kudrin and all his predecessors, they invested in hamburgers for American people with disabilities for obesity and in American wars around the world ....

            I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but я правильно понимаю, что ВСЕ эти 82 млрд баков можно предъявить к оплате примерно так, как в своё время де Голль с пароходом долларов "пошутил"? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?

            I suspect that as soon as the active collection of Amean debts of one of the countries begins, the remaining holders will also begin to actively do this in order to at least get something. A chain reaction will begin ... the dollar will sink and by this time it is better for us (Russia) to be away from this whirlpool.
          3. EFA
            EFA 16 December 2015 14: 46 New
            -4
            It will not work at a time, and if we withdraw all our investments for what will we exchange? We don’t have so many rubles - we’ll have to print. And what does this threaten? Voooot.

            So it’s not so simple.
          4. Cube123
            Cube123 16 December 2015 14: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but я правильно понимаю, что ВСЕ эти 82 млрд баков можно предъявить к оплате примерно так, как в своё время де Голль с пароходом долларов "пошутил"? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?

            If you try to understand international finance, you will easily see that this money is not there. Today, Russia owes more than $ 500 billion. Two years ago, the debt exceeded $ 700 billion. In two years, they repaid more than $ 200 billion. But the debt is still great. Money invested in bonds is still not enough to pay it off. This is precisely the main problem of the Russian economy. Debts were made when oil was expensive and it was easy to repay debts. Now oil is cheap and giving debts is much more difficult.

            The debt consists of the debts of the State http://info.minfin.ru/debt.php.
            And corporate sector debt. But to extinguish it also to the State, as the state simply cannot allow bankruptcy, for example of Gazprom, Rosneft or Sberbank.

            http://global-finances.ru/vneshniy-dolg-rossii-yanvar-2015/
            цитата: "По данным Центробанка, совокупный внешний долг России January 1, 2015 amounted to 599,497 billion dollars, снизившись на 17,7% в сравнении с прошлогодним показателем (728,864 миллиардов долларов)."
        3. Wolverine
          Wolverine 16 December 2015 13: 37 New
          +6
          Well, golden words and in the ears of our traitors in the Kremlin.
        4. kazachyok69
          kazachyok69 16 December 2015 13: 43 New
          +3
          Вообще то "Народного хозяйства" нет..... Государственного фактически нет.....так о чем Вы?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 16 December 2015 19: 16 New
            0
            "Народное хозяйство" - этот теперь частная собственность.
        5. Grbear
          Grbear 16 December 2015 14: 00 New
          0
          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come! sad (We have 146 million people. And here 82 billion tanks lie down.)

          Ha ha ... Let's take these 82 ... so what? We will immediately stop selling all... If only, land for unlimited use and with the deployment of military bases ... But who will give us hi
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 16 December 2015 14: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: GrBear

            Ha ha ... Let's take these 82 ... so what? We will immediately stop selling all... If only, land for unlimited use and with the deployment of military bases ... But who will give us hi


            This is a fallacy that has been refuted by the history of Soviet Russia since the 20s. And not only....
        6. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 16 December 2015 14: 55 New
          0
          so sawed like a shura weights!
        7. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 16 December 2015 18: 37 New
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          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

          And the capitalist ministers are back in America ...
      2. Chertkov Oleg
        Chertkov Oleg 16 December 2015 13: 14 New
        +4
        А за два с лишним года, посмотреть-озвучить слабо??? Снижение "вложений" на 43%,
        It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.
        On bone accounts, however, a balance was deduced !!!
      3. Shick
        Shick 16 December 2015 13: 15 New
        +1
        You read on, over half a year, investments increased on the contrary
        1. jjj
          jjj 16 December 2015 13: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Shick
          over half a year, on the contrary, investments increased

          This is where the manipulation lies. After all, before that, 40 billions were withdrawn, and they slip growth to us in a period convenient for manipulation. There is nothing to be surprised at. Our government also speculates, buys bonds at a cheaper dollar and dumps at an expensive one. But the general trend is the withdrawal of funds from US debt.
          1. yuriy55
            yuriy55 16 December 2015 14: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: jjj
            Quote: Shick
            over half a year, on the contrary, investments increased

            This is where the manipulation lies. After all, before that, 40 billion was withdrawn, and we palm off growth in a period convenient for manipulation. There is nothing to be surprised at. Our government also speculates, buys bonds at a cheaper dollar and dumps at an expensive one. But the general trend is the withdrawal of funds from US debt.


            Yes Yes!!! By the way, about what grows out of a small one, as I remember now:


            All that we are pleased about other people's debts ...

            In 2015, Russia will pay $ 65 billion on external debt. Most of this amount, according to the Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elvira Nabiullina, has already been repaid. At the end of 2014, Russia's foreign debt decreased by 18% to $ 599,5 billion. The bulk of it falls on liabilities of domestic companies to external creditors ($ 376,5 billion) and bank debt ($ 171,1 billion).


            With all this, the debts of the government are only $ 41 million !!! fellow
            Completely: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/infographics/1468913

            After the oil runs out (according to preliminary estimates, after 21 years - http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%C7%E0%EF%E0%F1%FB_%ED%E5%F4%F2%E8_%E2_%D0%EE%F1%F1%E8


            % E8
            Total oil reserves in Russia 10 billion tons; annual production - 500 million tons) I don’t even know what will happen with gas prices and paying off debts ... what

            Одно знаю точно, простому народу место уготовано не наверху, там где "сливки"...Тщательнее, ребятишки... wink
      4. Alexey Lesogor
        Alexey Lesogor 16 December 2015 13: 16 New
        +2
        And they didn’t invest in two days. This is an economy. It will not work out quickly.
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      6. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 16 December 2015 15: 57 New
        +1
        Patamuchta we have compradors in power, like dogs not cut.
      7. papas-57
        papas-57 16 December 2015 22: 01 New
        0
        ''Американское министерство финансов представило доклад, в котором сообщается о том, что Россия в октябре текущего года сократила свои вложения в американские облигации на сумму более 7 миллиардов долларов.'' Как достало наше правительство. Сокращает, сокращает, сокращает, а деньги и поныне там, почему-то не сокращаются (причём большие деньги и не лишние в России). Лучше будут спонсировать матрасников, чем помогать россиянам увеличенными зарплатами и пенсиями, новыми рабочими местами.
    2. Kostyar
      Kostyar 16 December 2015 13: 08 New
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      "вложения в американский долг" это бесполезное действо-всё равно,что к пожару воду носить в дуршлагах...

      А считаю это преступлением! В свою экономику нужно вкладывать, а в настоящий момент времени, это просто предательство "нашего" либеральног правительства, которое уже да-а-авно заслужило расстрел, за некоторыми исключениями.......!!!!
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 16 December 2015 13: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Bone
        [i]" считаю это преступлением!

        What a crime is concern for the welfare of the owner! crying
        and you think, if the countries of the world, including Russia will stop investing in the US economy, then what will they live on7
        After all, they have only debts, and Americans also have problems, they need a lot of money to arrange color revolutions, coups, bombing the population of democratized countries.
        And to maintain military bases around the world, to deploy armaments near the borders of Russia, to deploy missile defense?
        Russians don’t survive, it doesn’t matter, the main thing is that Americans can keep the whole world in fear and obedience. And how much other than this, does Russian money from individuals support American ambitions?
        And why should we develop production? make the economy resistant to external factors? that way we can accidentally jump out from under the heel of the world hegemon.
      2. kazachyok69
        kazachyok69 16 December 2015 14: 25 New
        +2
        А считаю это преступлением! В свою экономику нужно вкладывать, а в настоящий момент времени, это просто предательство "нашего" либеральног правительства

        "своя экономика" это что? Государственного нет...государство не создает рабочих мест...."своя экономика" это что-экономика отдельных личностей которые обогатились на миллиарды не понять как? По поводу "либерального Правительства" не смешите меня - оно какое угодно но не Либеральное...одни и те же Люди (кстати Путинские Друзья) сидят в Правительстве меняя друг друга 15 лет....сами обогатившись несусветно...Вы их Либералами называете? А по моему они работают исключительно на свой карман не неся ни за что никакой ответственности..
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 December 2015 13: 10 New
      12
      Well, yes, China is the largest holder of American debts, all the same, our minds erupted?
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 16 December 2015 13: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        China is the largest holder of US debt,

        At the same time, it gradually devalues ​​its currency and gets rid of US bonds, i.e. is in constant plus.
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 16 December 2015 13: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        Well yes China won the largest holder american debt

        It seems to me that for our liberal economists, investing in the American economy was a direct gain on the gratitude of the American people.

        And China holds not so much American debts as America itself for some intimate places. And at the right moment, he’ll yank!

        And ours could pull, though not like China, but also something would come off. Only for this, Nikita is needed. It was in 1962 that he didn’t poke America on the tricks ... From stupidity or courage - but he did not poke ...
    4. Shick
      Shick 16 December 2015 13: 14 New
      +1
      well, what are you !? this is probably the whole government does without the knowledge of the rest of those in power
    5. X Y Z
      X Y Z 16 December 2015 13: 58 New
      0
      It is not useless. It is very harmful to our economy.
    6. fif21
      fif21 16 December 2015 15: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      investments in American debt
      And what is the profitability of investing in American T-bills ??????? It may look better where to invest! hi
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  3. deputy ___ watered
    deputy ___ watered 16 December 2015 12: 58 New
    -1
    Probably the leadership of our state decided to change priorities in accumulation or is conducting any games on exchanges with debt obligations.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 16 December 2015 13: 28 New
      +1
      It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.


      Сергей, о каких изменениях приоритетов Вы говорите. Обратите внимание на вышеизложенную фразу. В настоящий момент похоже просто вкладывать нечего. Но общая то сумма вложения неуклонно растёт. "Дело" Кудрина живёт и побеждает, к сожалению, коллега. hi
  4. meriem1
    meriem1 16 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +8
    We must throw off the paper! Better still is money, then develop production. Although this has long been clear even to a schoolboy!
  5. lukke
    lukke 16 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +4
    ну что там на "верху" случилось? в ПАСЕ -масе деньги загонять в прежних объемах не думаем, в американские фантики - объемы уменьшили?! неужто здравый чиновник-государственник появился?! Имя, сестра!?
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 16 December 2015 13: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: lukke
      ну что там на "верху" случилось? в ПАСЕ -масе деньги загонять в прежних объемах не думаем, в американские фантики - объемы уменьшили?! неужто здравый чиновник-государственник появился?! Имя, сестра!?

      .. it began even more than a year ago .. at first they sent the securities to independent depositories, because it is practically impossible to dump the securities that are in the custody of the US Treasury, they just can block the deal .. and if you transferred to an independent depository .. voila .. fly on, don’t be stingy; buy American painting .. very well done .. without too much dust and noise .. laughing
      1. max702
        max702 16 December 2015 13: 22 New
        +3
        Quote: Inok10
        . it started even more than a year ago .. at first they sent the papers to independent depositories, because it is practically impossible to dump the papers that are in the depository of the US Treasury, they just can block the transaction .. and if you took them to an independent depository ... voila. fly, don’t be stingy; buy American painting .. very well done .. without too much dust and noise ..

        Ndaa? And how do you comment on the purchase of these securities 21.5 billion dollars in the month of August 2015 This is just those same 1.35 trillion \ rub что были объявлены дефицитом бюджета России.. Объясните вменяемо на кой ляд при "той ситуации" в стране было тратить эти деньги на бумажки? По мне только одно объяснение это была вира за убытки США что они понесут с началом нашей операции в Сирии.. Но с этим нас тоже кинули..
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 16 December 2015 15: 51 New
          +4
          Ordinary currency speculation. request By the way, the government has covered the budget deficit for this year with speculation on the course. And it even turned out to be a plus. If my sclerosis does not fail me, the budget deficit was declared 655 billion rubles, but due to the game on the ruble exchange rate, the budget received more than a trillion rubles. So it covered the deficit and made a profit. I think that they also play on American debt instruments - they buy when they fall and sell when they grow, but they can fall. hi In general, people forge money for the budget through games at exchange rates and American securities.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +5
    worth over $ 7 billion

    Have they really made a decision? This is not the first reduction in support for Russia's direct enemy. And another 82 billion are still hanging. It is also necessary to decide.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 16 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And another 82 billion are still hanging. It is also necessary to decide.

      В "тучные" годы общая сумма американских трэжерис в ЗВР РФ достигала, если не ошибаюсь, 140 млрд.долл. За что отдельное спасибо следует сказать "лучшему министру финансов всех времен и народов" г-ну Кудрину.
    2. DMoroz
      DMoroz 16 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +1
      Так ведь закупку гособлигаций заокеанских "партнеров" ведет ЦБ РФ, но который РФ-то как раз и не принадлежит. Однако ВВП подписал закон, по которому с 2016 года 90% прибыли ЦБ РФ пойдет в фед. бюджет. Так что вкладываться "нашим" либерально-экономическим руководителям ЦБ в долги мерикосов получается нечем, хотя по закону о ЦБ они это делать и обязаны...
  7. 31rus
    31rus 16 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +4
    Dear, not an economist, but why not invest where? Why not use the same money or securities to create your own fund, or joint, what is the essence of investments in American papers?
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 16 December 2015 13: 28 New
      +2
      "...в чем суть именно вложений в американские бумаги?"
      To ensure the hegemony of the SGA.
      The legacy of EBN rule and the death of the country in the 90s.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 December 2015 13: 00 New
    +2
    Well, if you can pay with these pieces of paper for real assets, then why not ...
    After all, it makes sense to buy these securities.
  9. Severomor
    Severomor 16 December 2015 13: 00 New
    14
    ..."поскольку 500 миллиардов долларов российской элиты лежат в наших банках, вы еще разберитесь: это ваша элита или уже наша?" /Бжезинский/.
    А некто Кудрин очень любил "вложения в американский долг", так чей он министр был????? )))))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 December 2015 13: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Severomor
      "поскольку 500 миллиардов долларов российской элиты лежат в наших банках, вы еще разберитесь: это ваша элита или уже наша?" /Бжезинский/.

      What year was it said?
      1. Severomor
        Severomor 16 December 2015 13: 28 New
        +2
        What year was it said?


        December 2009, an appeal to scientists on the missile defense problem, full phrase:
        "не вижу ни одного случая, в котором Россия могла бы прибегнуть к своему ядерному потенциалу, пока в американских банках лежит $500 млрд., принадлежащих российской элите . А потом добавил: вы еще разберитесь, чья это элита – ваша или уже наша. Эта элита никак не связывает свою судьбу с судьбой России. У них деньги уже там, дети уже там…."

        Kudrin from March 9, 2004 - Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation, from September 24, 2007 - May 7, 2008 - Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation - Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation.
        1. fif21
          fif21 16 December 2015 15: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Severomor
          Эта элита никак не связывает свою судьбу с судьбой России. У них деньги уже там, дети уже там…."
          Maybe maidan stir up? wassat
          1. Severomor
            Severomor 16 December 2015 16: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: fif21
            Maybe maidan stir up? wassat


            В смысле "их" дети там начнут жечь покрышки? Я ЗА. Вопрос: как сплотить детей так наз "злиты"?
    2. WKS
      WKS 16 December 2015 13: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Severomor
      А некто Кудрин очень любил "вложения в американский долг", так чей он министр был????? )))))

      Who gave him the title of best minister? That and the owner.
  10. Mirrorfax
    Mirrorfax 16 December 2015 13: 01 New
    +4
    All d @ rmo that America could do for Russia - she did. Further - only more. The question is - why maintain her debts? No, she died, she died. Let her masturbate herself.)
  11. V.ic
    V.ic 16 December 2015 13: 01 New
    +4
    Хватит "отстёгивать" денежку нашим врагам! Надо вкладывать в развитие собственной экономики, а не "забугорной".
  12. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 16 December 2015 13: 04 New
    +8
    Do not flatter yourself:
    в 2012 г. "российские власти перечислили в Америку на хранение десятки миллиардов долларов. Причем, мы одалживаем наши деньги США под 0,7%. После чего занимаем за границей деньги под 6,48% – 8,65%. Иными словами, мы просто дарим эти деньги представителям западного финансового капитала. Хотя, казалось бы, вот они живые деньги, которые можно было бы использовать для развития страны, транспортной инфраструктуры, подъема экономики и социальной сферы".
    (article of the end of 2013)

    By the way, over the past year, investments decreased only by 4 billion. and about 74 mld. the Fed continues to help.
    (reality)
  13. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 16 December 2015 13: 05 New
    +1
    I bought a package of toilet paper. Also packing paper towels for the New Year. I propose to invest money in them, I will write anything. Dedicated to the Minister of Finance.
  14. Isk1984
    Isk1984 16 December 2015 13: 06 New
    +6
    By the way, one of the examples, as it were, of the elite’s patriotism, says one thing, but in fact it’s different, and what they reduced, why invested at all, to hell ... I remember how Kudrin squealed that it was necessary to sterilize excess paper so that inflation would not be dispersed, and industry died with agriculture from high interest and the inability to lend normally ...
  15. Chulman
    Chulman 16 December 2015 13: 11 New
    +2
    What can I say about this?! .. Nothing ... As for everything that happens in Russia!
  16. Mik13
    Mik13 16 December 2015 13: 15 New
    +7
    The article is misinformation. Namely - here is this statement:
    It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.


    Such figures should be looked at in the long run.
    We climb through the archives and:

    October 2014 - 108.9
    November 2014 - 108.1
    December 2014 - 86.0
    January 2015 - 82.2
    February 2015 - 69.6
    March 2015 - 69.9
    April 2015 - 66.5
    May 2015 - 70.6
    June 2015 - 72.0
    July 2015 - 82.1
    August 2015 - 89.9
    September 2015 - 89.1
    October 2015 - 82.0

    Moreover, even earlier, the order of numbers was about 150 billion evergreens. So in the long run, I gradually observe a rejection of the treasuries. laughing

    А "РИА Новости" за оральные услуги американским партнерам получают приз ВО в номинации "Золотая Клизьма"
    1. max702
      max702 16 December 2015 15: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Mik13
      Moreover, even earlier, the order of numbers was about 150 billion evergreens. So in the long run, I gradually observe a rejection of the treasuries.

      Простите а 2015 год видимо был очень удачным для экономики нашей страны , особенно в июле августе месяце судя по тому что сократившиеся до 66.5 млрд были резко увеличены до 89.9 млрд.. Может я что то путаю но как раз на это время и пришло понимание что нефть не собирается расти , а следователь валютных доходов не видать.. я конечно не экономист но все таки какого рожна вдруг мы купили бумажек на 23.4 млрд? У нас что были прекрасные перспективы впереди? Или деньги жгли руки? Назовите хоть одну причину по чему мы оторвали от своей экономики 23.5 млрд\долл и профинансировали экономику врага №1 нашего гос-ва? У меня причин кроме саботажа и предательства не.. Что вы напишите если под новый год наше "мудрое" правительство еще подкупит бумажек на 15-30 млрд ? А чего , ситуация то улучшается ! Прям все тенденции как в июне. июле месяце даже интересней! Вон в США нефть решили на сторону продавать , тем самым еще снизив валютные доходы России.. Значит надо снова купить зеленых фантиков! Именно такую логику наблюдаем у нашего правительства.
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 16 December 2015 17: 44 New
        -1
        Quote: max702
        I'm certainly not an economist

        That's it. Therefore, I am afraid that the conversation is essentially unlikely to succeed. Yes, and for comment, this is somehow slightly unformatted. And yet -

        Quote: max702
        What is one reason why we have torn 23.5 billion \ dollars out of our economy and financed the economy of the enemy No. 1 of our state?

        Because Treasury is the most convenient, cheapest (that is, less banking fee for these operations) and a reliable way to store US dollars.

        And US dollars are needed, for example, to support the ruble.
        Another dollar will be needed when paying corporate debts.

        Quote: max702
        Что вы напишите если под новый год наше "мудрое" правительство еще подкупит бумажек на 15-30 млрд ?

        So far, the government is coping. By the way, they kept the ruble exchange rate during a speculative attack; they did not allow problems in paying corporate debts.

        So I would not cling to individual numbers. Especially if someone is brazenly manipulating them.
  17. dima1970
    dima1970 16 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +2
    Six months ago it was 70 (see article), now 82 has become. There is a decline ... Some kind of strange arithmetic.
    How much you can build on this money with yourself, and there would obviously be more profit from the built.
    Or is such a logical chain for the translator of arrows (rename police) and the company inaccessible?
  18. 31rus
    31rus 16 December 2015 13: 18 New
    +1
    dear, again I don’t understand? Well, we don’t want to invest in our economy, then I propose to divide by the rate for each Russian citizen who does not want to let them lie in American papers, so we will decide on a mortgage and loans or a check for this amount, for cashing out that again you will sing about inflation, so she will eat them
    1. WKS
      WKS 16 December 2015 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      dear, again I don’t understand? Well, we don’t want to invest in our economy, then I propose to divide by the rate for each Russian citizen who does not want to let them lie in American papers, so we will decide on a mortgage and loans or a check for this amount, for cashing out that again you will sing about inflation, so she will eat them

      $ 82: 000 = $ 000 per one, and if in rubles at the current exchange rate, then $ 000 x 150 = 000 rubles. For a month of modest life.
  19. afrikanez
    afrikanez 16 December 2015 13: 20 New
    +3
    I don’t understand why to invest my money in someone’s debts. Well this is complete absurdity.
  20. Belarus
    Belarus 16 December 2015 13: 25 New
    +2
    Для американцев доллар это священная корова.Так вот и надо сделать так чтобы эта корова если не "крякнула",то как минимум сильно болела.И результат "болезни"коровы мы увидим быстро по всему миру.Ведь если выражаться медицинским термином,то на данный момент доллар это по сути вирус который заразил всю мировую экономику и не только.Ведь этот вирус мутирует и от него появляются все новые болезни - войны разного типа,исчезают и появляются государства и т.д.
  21. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 December 2015 13: 28 New
    +6
    [quote = afrikanez] I will never understand why to invest my money in someone’s debts. This is complete absurdity. [/ Quo
    I think it’s not so simple! Russia ranks 15th in terms of investments. 15th !!!! Do you consider the complete idiots of those who occupy the first 14 positions? I will not list them all is in the public domain.
    I am not an economist. Maybe my link will help to figure out a little why this is done.
    Link: http://www.liveinternet.ru/community/5643488/post367644429/
  22. Bakht
    Bakht 16 December 2015 13: 30 New
    +1
    Investing in government bonds of other countries (in this case, the USA) is a profitable business. Another thing is the profitability of these investments. It seems to date, the yield on US debt is 2,2% per annum. That is, the Russian Federation earns on this, as I understand it, 1,6 billion a year. Now, just economists have to calculate what the profitability of these 82 billion will be if they are invested in the country's economy?

    Конечно же финансировать врага нет смысла. Но не надо забывать, что еще два года назад это были "партнеры". А вывести такую кучу денег за год или два нереально.

    So our judgments may or may not be correct. It is difficult to manage the state. Too many factors. Anyway, more than one or two.
  23. 35lisment35
    35lisment35 16 December 2015 13: 40 New
    +3
    It's funny, people perceive this news as a victory ... So in general, why do we invest money there ???
  24. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 16 December 2015 13: 40 New
    +1
    I don’t understand !! 4 launches into space were in 2 weeks (not to mention the launches of submarines) Who released more into SPACE? what nah oil ?? what does ?? the best technologies and their application with us !!! what nah oil ?? what nah bax ?? ISS Russian Commander .. what kind of oil is it ?? Nabiullina Tsuku in the darkness
  25. Yugra
    Yugra 16 December 2015 13: 48 New
    +2
    We invest in the economy of mattress covers, we risk being left without this money at any moment, and someone here is adding to this disgrace. Do you have any brains?
  26. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 December 2015 13: 51 New
    +1
    This economy is strange. For the simple reader it is not clear why to collect American debts and line up who will give more ... some kind of nonsense. Perhaps economists have their own ideas.
  27. Woodman
    Woodman 16 December 2015 13: 57 New
    +2
    How many disputes ... well, probably they were wasted in vain, but they won’t be able to withdraw money at once, otherwise these same securities will depreciate at the expense of the times and there will be continuous losses to us. If you have already invested (got into it), then you need to display it carefully so as not to lose what it is. And everyone understands this, if I’m not mistaken, China itself is also slowly getting rid of American papers. The main thing is to get rid of them, so as not to cause a collapse of the debt market until the moment we return our own.
    I can make a mistake somewhere, because I am not an advanced financier, but I think the general meaning is clear.
  28. 31rus
    31rus 16 December 2015 13: 58 New
    +1
    Уважаемые,хорошо вложили деньги,значит по идеи ,кроме процентов мы так же имеем часть экономики США,так какие санкции?Другой вопрос почему "яйца в одной корзине"?
  29. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 16 December 2015 13: 59 New
    +2
    The most normal investment is gold. Suppose the dollar is still strong, but there is no absolute guarantee that nothing will happen to it (including for political reasons). Unfortunately, there is not so much gold in the world to really cover the reserves of states. Only Russia needs a plus to the existing 2000 tons (rather, even more). China - 20000 tons and so on.
  30. nik1321
    nik1321 16 December 2015 14: 09 New
    0
    they impose sanctions, etc., and our government invests money in their economy, I agree that some amount should be available, but it should also have limited sizes. If the Russian economy begins to crumble, there will not be enough savings.
  31. GUKTU
    GUKTU 16 December 2015 14: 09 New
    0
    Those. in other words, do we support the economy of a potential adversary? At any time, Americans can refuse to refund? Strange however, we have a financial policy .... They wipe their feet about us, and we support them
  32. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 December 2015 14: 24 New
    +1
    In December, Russian state-owned companies need to pay about 40 billion.
    dollars in debt to banks. Firms do not have that much currency.
    The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
    Bonds yield 1,5% per year.
  33. Mark68
    Mark68 16 December 2015 15: 13 New
    +1
    Государственный внешний долги России (обязательства Российской Федерации, возникающие в иностранной валюте) на 1 июля 2015г. составляли 36,4 млрд млрд долл США, а общий внешний долг России (общий внешний долг (частного и федерального сектора) Российской Федерации)- 555,7 млрд млрд долл. США. Можно было бы этими фантиками (гособлигациями) полностью закрыть госдолг России и еще бы осталось... Вообще не понимаю, зачем на доходы в долларах от проданных за рубеж товаров (нефть, газ, атом, военку) потом покупать облигации США. Доходность то по ним мизерная, а сроки погашения годы. Зачем нам такие золотовалютные резервы, вообще не пойму. Похоже, просто не знают, куда девать доллары. Вроде бы в 2015 году эта цифра иногда уменьшалась до 55 млрд долларов, а сейчас "уменьшилась" - 82. Так что еще рано верить тем, кто говорит, что вложения России в поддержку гос.долгов США снижаются. Просто размер этих вложений, вероятнее всего, плавает в районе 60-90 и зависит от сроков погашения этих облигаций. Самое странное, что потом, при погашении ГКО, еще у кого то ума хватает перевкладывать обналиченные баксы опять в следующие выпуски ГКО США (то есть, считай, опять в экономику США).
  34. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 December 2015 17: 02 New
    0
    Quote: EFA
    It will not work at a time, and if we withdraw all our investments for what will we exchange? We don’t have so many rubles - we’ll have to print. And what does this threaten? Voooot.

    So it’s not so simple.

    And the proposals of economists like Glazyev just offer to increase the ruble issue, but at the same time not just give to all sorts of different banks, but direct them to domestic investments to support certain areas of economic development. Then the outflow of this money for the purchase of foreign currency by banks is excluded, which means that a speculative factor is excluded, which in the current conditions is done by banks (speculation) by simply transferring money to the banking system! So do not be afraid to print the required amount of money - you need to use them correctly! hi
    1. cap
      cap 16 December 2015 17: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Vlad5307
      And the proposals of economists like Glazyev just offer to increase the ruble issue, but at the same time not just give to all sorts of different banks, but direct them to domestic investments to support certain areas of economic development. Then the outflow of this money for the purchase of foreign currency by banks is excluded, which means that a speculative factor is excluded, which in the current conditions is done by banks (speculation) by simply transferring money to the banking system! So do not be afraid to print the required amount of money - you need to use them correctly! hi


      Therefore, his proposals are blocked primarily by bankers and their communities. Players on exchanges. The real sector is long and unprofitable. It is better to give interest to the population.
  35. mamont5
    mamont5 16 December 2015 17: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    Russia in October of this year reduced its investment in US bonds by more than 7 billion dollars.

    - The beginning is good, but something o-very slowly, we UNDERSTAND them!

    And you can’t quickly, because then the dollar will collapse right away. We’ll lose everything on IT. It’s good that Japan and China overtake us like this in this matter, their losses will be inevitable, but they are also trying to minimize them. And that the process has begun is good. The less they buy their stock from the United States, the less they can print their dollars.
  36. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 December 2015 17: 09 New
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
    Bonds yield 1,5% per year.

    And investments in Russian bonds give a much higher percentage of why foreign funds, even American ones, are happy to buy them. But why are ours so invested in imported ones that give almost zero income in the aggregate - is it unclear? Mb one of our leaders earns loyalty to the State Department of the SGA?
    If this is not so, then what is the trick - the product is kind of unprofitable! No. ? fool ?
    1. cap
      cap 16 December 2015 17: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
      Bonds yield 1,5% per year.

      And investments in Russian bonds give a much higher percentage of why foreign funds, even American ones, are happy to buy them. But why are ours so invested in imported ones that give almost zero income in the aggregate - is it unclear? Mb one of our leaders earns loyalty to the State Department of the SGA?
      If this is not so, then what is the trick - the product is kind of unprofitable! No. ? fool ?

      Only the best banker in the world knows. I’ll tell you the last name only to no one else. Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina.
      In May 2014, she ranked 71st in the Forbes magazine's ranking of “100 Most Influential Women in the World”. Nabiullina became the only representative of Russia in this ranking.
      In September 2015, Euromoney magazine recognized Elvira Nabiullina as the best leader among the heads of central banks in the world in 2015.
      И еще, она в школе на "отлично" училась.
      Personally, I have nothing to her.
      Ну почему так "хреново" наверно только она и знает.