Changes in the volume of Russian investments in US bonds

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The US Treasury Department reported that it reported that in October of this year Russia reduced its investments in US bonds by more than 7 billions of dollars. If by the beginning of October the amount of investments was about 89,1 billion dollars, by the beginning of November Russia's investments in American debts are $ 82 billion.

It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.

Today, according to RIA News, Russia occupies the 15 line in the position of countries investing in the US national debt. If Russia continues to get rid of US government bonds, in the near future it can move the line below. For the time being, this line is occupied by Germany with 81,6 billion dollars of investments.

Changes in the volume of Russian investments in US bonds


The first two places (traditionally for the last years) are held by China and Japan. However, it should be noted that these countries have seriously reduced their investments in American debt. However, the sum of investments of Japan and China in the US government bonds and now remains more than impressive. For two, it's more than 3,3 trillion. dollars. This is about 17,5% of total US debt.
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  2. +36
    16 December 2015 12: 54
    "investing in American debt" is a useless act - it's like carrying water in colanders to a fire ...
    1. +22
      16 December 2015 13: 04
      Russia in October of this year reduced its investment in US bonds by more than 7 billion dollars.

      - The beginning is good, but something o-very slowly, we UNDERSTAND them!
      1. +53
        16 December 2015 13: 08
        82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come! sad (We have 146 million people. And here 82 billion tanks lie down.)
        1. +22
          16 December 2015 13: 13
          82 billion tanks (!) In folk ho
          ---------------------------------
          Holy naivety! At the beginning of the year, $ 1 trillion was allocated to save banks. Rubles. Of these, 883 billion are lying dead on deposits and immediately:
          the benefit of refusing indexation to working retirees is 87 billion a year.

          Drawing from an article on a neighboring branch.
          1. +21
            16 December 2015 13: 32
            82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

            And who needs it?
            Specific people are behind investing in the American economy.
            These people decided that investing in America is more profitable for them.
            No need to complicate.
            Which liberals need a strong Russia?
            1. +11
              16 December 2015 14: 08
              So I’m talking about why the whole comedy with patriotism and US confrontation, if we finance our enemy ourselves?
              There are ghouls in the Kremlin who work only in their own pocket and serve corporations. People cut their pensions, they increase the communal, but they don’t forget to date the states, this is sacred.
            2. +3
              16 December 2015 14: 29
              Quote: Temples
              Temples (5) RU Today, 13: 32 ↑ New

              82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

              And who needs it?
              Over investment in the American national economy there are specific people.
              These people decided that investing in America is more profitable for them.
              No need to complicate.
              Which liberals need a strong Russia?

              Sorry, but what is the American economy? Walt Street? Then yes, into it.
            3. -1
              17 December 2015 00: 25
              Why Russia rule .. citizens of the fifth column?
          2. +2
            16 December 2015 15: 05
            According to the internal economic (so-called) policy, one cannot invest one's money in one's own economy. But the money of foreign investors is possible. But they (investors) for some reason do not go here. Maybe Medvedev ask, why?
            1. cap
              +1
              16 December 2015 17: 08
              Quote: 16112014nk
              According to the internal economic (so-called) policy, one cannot invest one's money in one's own economy. But the money of foreign investors is possible. But they (investors) for some reason do not go here. Maybe Medvedev ask, why?



              Investors expect at least to receive a refund in five years. After reading VO at their leisure, one can imagine what will happen to Medvedev in 5 years.
              And they also know about corruption from the primary sources.
              On his people, Medvedev D.A. and to, they look at unreasonable children, giving the money they will spend on cinema, chips and lollipops.
              But certainly not on a made n rush tractor to plow, sow, harvest, save, sell, retire, pay interest to the bank and calmly prepare first for retirement, and then for another world.
              So long, boring, uninteresting.
              Today it’s easier to get a loan on bail, drink money, declare yourself bankrupt. Curtain. Everyone is happy.
              You do not have a credit card Visa from Herman Gref at 26% per annum, which means you have not yet arrived. Wait. hi
          3. 0
            16 December 2015 19: 12
            And you are aware that we have banks, the population, organizations and firms stick out 16 trillion rubles - in the form of overdue loans.
            1. cap
              0
              16 December 2015 19: 48
              Bankruptcy law passed. Maybe this will solve the problem.
              In fact, the figure flashed over 20.
              I am sure there will be more.
              I am very sorry. Unfortunately, the solution to the problem lies beyond the scope of a simple discussion.
        2. +10
          16 December 2015 13: 36
          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

          Thanks to Kudrin and all his predecessors, they invested in hamburgers for American people with disabilities for obesity and in American wars around the world ....

          I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but Do I understand correctly that ALL of these 82 billion tanks can be presented for payment approximately the way de Gaulle joked with a steamer of dollars? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?
          1. +2
            16 December 2015 14: 37
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            ALL of these 82 billion tanks can be presented for payment

            of course it is possible. Not the fact that they will pay right away, and not the fact that they will pay at all - there will be "a thousand reasons" to say that "you will manage, Russia - you unleashed a war in Ukraine!" And even if they pay, the question
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            how much the next day after such a presentation will the dollar cost?

            looks naive - excuse me hi : Compare 82 billion to 19 trillion of the total public debt?
            They have one Pentagon budget 6-7 times more.
          2. +6
            16 December 2015 14: 45
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: gray smeet
            82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

            Thanks to Kudrin and all his predecessors, they invested in hamburgers for American people with disabilities for obesity and in American wars around the world ....

            I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but Do I understand correctly that ALL of these 82 billion tanks can be presented for payment approximately the way de Gaulle joked with a steamer of dollars? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?

            I suspect that as soon as the active collection of Amean debts of one of the countries begins, the remaining holders will also begin to actively do this in order to at least get something. A chain reaction will begin ... the dollar will sink and by this time it is better for us (Russia) to be away from this whirlpool.
          3. EFA
            -4
            16 December 2015 14: 46
            It will not work at a time, and if we withdraw all our investments for what will we exchange? We don’t have so many rubles - we’ll have to print. And what does this threaten? Voooot.

            So it’s not so simple.
          4. +2
            16 December 2015 14: 57
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            I’m not good at international finance - God forbid, I would have to figure out my pension, but Do I understand correctly that ALL of these 82 billion tanks can be presented for payment approximately the way de Gaulle joked with a steamer of dollars? Hence the question - how much the dollar will cost the next day after such a presentation? How many cents per kilogram? And will it be interesting for America to deal with any three lard that Ukraine owes us?

            If you try to understand international finance, you will easily see that this money is not there. Today, Russia owes more than $ 500 billion. Two years ago, the debt exceeded $ 700 billion. In two years, they repaid more than $ 200 billion. But the debt is still great. Money invested in bonds is still not enough to pay it off. This is precisely the main problem of the Russian economy. Debts were made when oil was expensive and it was easy to repay debts. Now oil is cheap and giving debts is much more difficult.

            The debt consists of the debts of the State http://info.minfin.ru/debt.php.
            And corporate sector debt. But to extinguish it also to the State, as the state simply cannot allow bankruptcy, for example of Gazprom, Rosneft or Sberbank.

            http://global-finances.ru/vneshniy-dolg-rossii-yanvar-2015/
            quote: "According to the Central Bank, the total external debt of Russia January 1, 2015 amounted to 599,497 billion dollars, down 17,7% from last year's $ 728,864 billion. "
        3. +6
          16 December 2015 13: 37
          Well, golden words and in the ears of our traitors in the Kremlin.
        4. +3
          16 December 2015 13: 43
          Actually, there is no "National Economy" ..... There is actually no state one ..... so what are you talking about?
          1. 0
            16 December 2015 19: 16
            "National economy" is now private property.
        5. 0
          16 December 2015 14: 00
          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come! sad (We have 146 million people. And here 82 billion tanks lie down.)

          Ha ha ... Let's take these 82 ... so what? We will immediately stop selling all... If only, land for unlimited use and with the deployment of military bases ... But who will give us hi
          1. +1
            16 December 2015 14: 14
            Quote: GrBear

            Ha ha ... Let's take these 82 ... so what? We will immediately stop selling all... If only, land for unlimited use and with the deployment of military bases ... But who will give us hi


            This is a fallacy that has been refuted by the history of Soviet Russia since the 20s. And not only....
        6. 0
          16 December 2015 14: 55
          so sawed like a shura weights!
        7. 0
          16 December 2015 18: 37
          Quote: gray smeet
          82 billion tanks (!) In the national economy of Russia (machine tools, machinery, equipment, high technology, housing, roads) - the people would get work for years to come!

          And the capitalist ministers are back in America ...
      2. +4
        16 December 2015 13: 14
        And for more than two years, to see-sound weakly ??? Reduction of "investments" by 43%,
        It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.
        On bone accounts, however, a balance was deduced !!!
      3. +1
        16 December 2015 13: 15
        You read on, over half a year, investments increased on the contrary
        1. jjj
          +4
          16 December 2015 13: 36
          Quote: Shick
          over half a year, on the contrary, investments increased

          This is where the manipulation lies. After all, before that, 40 billions were withdrawn, and they slip growth to us in a period convenient for manipulation. There is nothing to be surprised at. Our government also speculates, buys bonds at a cheaper dollar and dumps at an expensive one. But the general trend is the withdrawal of funds from US debt.
          1. +2
            16 December 2015 14: 17
            Quote: jjj
            Quote: Shick
            over half a year, on the contrary, investments increased

            This is where the manipulation lies. After all, before that, 40 billion was withdrawn, and we palm off growth in a period convenient for manipulation. There is nothing to be surprised at. Our government also speculates, buys bonds at a cheaper dollar and dumps at an expensive one. But the general trend is the withdrawal of funds from US debt.


            Yes Yes!!! By the way, about what grows out of a small one, as I remember now:


            All that we are pleased about other people's debts ...

            In 2015, Russia will pay $ 65 billion on external debt. Most of this amount, according to the Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elvira Nabiullina, has already been repaid. At the end of 2014, Russia's foreign debt decreased by 18% to $ 599,5 billion. The bulk of it falls on liabilities of domestic companies to external creditors ($ 376,5 billion) and bank debt ($ 171,1 billion).


            With all this, the debts of the government are only $ 41 million !!! fellow
            Completely: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/infographics/1468913

            After the oil runs out (according to preliminary estimates, after 21 years - http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%C7%E0%EF%E0%F1%FB_%ED%E5%F4%F2%E8_%E2_%D0%EE%F1%F1%E8


            % E8
            Total oil reserves in Russia 10 billion tons; annual production - 500 million tons) I don’t even know what will happen with gas prices and paying off debts ... what

            I know one thing for sure, the place is not prepared for the common people at the top, where the "cream" is ... Careful, kids ... wink
      4. +2
        16 December 2015 13: 16
        And they didn’t invest in two days. This is an economy. It will not work out quickly.
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      6. +1
        16 December 2015 15: 57
        Patamuchta we have compradors in power, like dogs not cut.
      7. 0
        16 December 2015 22: 01
        "The US Treasury Department has submitted a report stating that Russia cut its investments in US bonds by more than $ 7 billion in October this year." How our government got sick. It cuts, cuts, cuts, but money is still there, for some reason it is not cut (and a lot of money and not superfluous in Russia). It would be better to sponsor mattress makers than to help Russians with increased salaries and pensions, new jobs.
    2. +12
      16 December 2015 13: 08
      "investing in American debt" is a useless act - it's like carrying water in colanders to a fire ...

      And I consider it a crime! You need to invest in your economy, but at the moment, this is just a betrayal of "our" liberal government, which has already deserved to be shot, with some exceptions ....... !!!!
      1. +2
        16 December 2015 13: 28
        Quote: Bone
        [i] "I think it's a crime!

        What a crime is concern for the welfare of the owner! crying
        and you think, if the countries of the world, including Russia will stop investing in the US economy, then what will they live on7
        After all, they have only debts, and Americans also have problems, they need a lot of money to arrange color revolutions, coups, bombing the population of democratized countries.
        And to maintain military bases around the world, to deploy armaments near the borders of Russia, to deploy missile defense?
        Russians don’t survive, it doesn’t matter, the main thing is that Americans can keep the whole world in fear and obedience. And how much other than this, does Russian money from individuals support American ambitions?
        And why should we develop production? make the economy resistant to external factors? that way we can accidentally jump out from under the heel of the world hegemon.
      2. +2
        16 December 2015 14: 25
        And I consider it a crime! You need to invest in your economy, but at the moment, this is just a betrayal of "our" liberal government

        "own economy" is that? There is no state ... the state does not create jobs .... "its own economy" is that the economy of individuals who have enriched themselves in billions do not understand how? Regarding the "liberal government" do not make me laugh - it is anything but Liberal ... the same People (by the way, Putin's Friends) have been sitting in the Government, changing each other for 15 years .... having enriched themselves incredibly ... you are their Liberals call? And in my opinion they work exclusively for their own pocket without bearing any responsibility for anything ..
    3. +12
      16 December 2015 13: 10
      Well, yes, China is the largest holder of American debts, all the same, our minds erupted?
      1. +4
        16 December 2015 13: 19
        Quote: vovanpain
        China is the largest holder of US debt,

        At the same time, it gradually devalues ​​its currency and gets rid of US bonds, i.e. is in constant plus.
      2. +5
        16 December 2015 13: 44
        Quote: vovanpain
        Well yes China won the largest holder american debt

        It seems to me that for our liberal economists, investing in the American economy was a direct gain on the gratitude of the American people.

        And China holds not so much American debts as America itself for some intimate places. And at the right moment, he’ll yank!

        And ours could pull, though not like China, but also something would come off. Only for this, Nikita is needed. It was in 1962 that he didn’t poke America on the tricks ... From stupidity or courage - but he did not poke ...
    4. +1
      16 December 2015 13: 14
      well, what are you !? this is probably the whole government does without the knowledge of the rest of those in power
    5. 0
      16 December 2015 13: 58
      It is not useless. It is very harmful to our economy.
    6. +1
      16 December 2015 15: 53
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      investments in American debt
      And what is the profitability of investing in American T-bills ??????? It may look better where to invest! hi
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  3. -1
    16 December 2015 12: 58
    Probably the leadership of our state decided to change priorities in accumulation or is conducting any games on exchanges with debt obligations.
    1. +1
      16 December 2015 13: 28
      It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.


      Sergey, what changes in priorities are you talking about. Pay attention to the above phrase. At the moment, it seems that there is simply nothing to invest. But the total amount of investment is growing steadily. Kudrin's "case" lives on and wins, unfortunately, a colleague. hi
  4. +8
    16 December 2015 12: 59
    We must throw off the paper! Better still is money, then develop production. Although this has long been clear even to a schoolboy!
  5. +4
    16 December 2015 12: 59
    Well, what happened on the "top"? in PACE -mas we do not think to drive money in the same volumes, in American candy wrappers - have the volumes reduced ?! is it possible that a sane state official has appeared ?! Name, sister !?
    1. +4
      16 December 2015 13: 08
      Quote: lukke
      Well, what happened on the "top"? in PACE -mas we do not think to drive money in the same volumes, in American candy wrappers - have the volumes reduced ?! is it possible that a sane state official has appeared ?! Name, sister !?

      .. it began even more than a year ago .. at first they sent the securities to independent depositories, because it is practically impossible to dump the securities that are in the custody of the US Treasury, they just can block the deal .. and if you transferred to an independent depository .. voila .. fly on, don’t be stingy; buy American painting .. very well done .. without too much dust and noise .. laughing
      1. +3
        16 December 2015 13: 22
        Quote: Inok10
        . it started even more than a year ago .. at first they sent the papers to independent depositories, because it is practically impossible to dump the papers that are in the depository of the US Treasury, they just can block the transaction .. and if you took them to an independent depository ... voila. fly, don’t be stingy; buy American painting .. very well done .. without too much dust and noise ..

        Ndaa? And how do you comment on the purchase of these securities 21.5 billion dollars in the month of August 2015 This is just those same 1.35 trillion \ rub that they were declared a budget deficit in Russia .. Explain sanely for what a hell with "that situation" in the country was to spend this money on pieces of paper? For me, only one explanation was that it was a suicide for the US losses that they would incur with the start of our operation in Syria .. But with that they threw us too ..
        1. +4
          16 December 2015 15: 51
          Ordinary currency speculation. request By the way, the government has covered the budget deficit for this year with speculation on the course. And it even turned out to be a plus. If my sclerosis does not fail me, the budget deficit was declared 655 billion rubles, but due to the game on the ruble exchange rate, the budget received more than a trillion rubles. So it covered the deficit and made a profit. I think that they also play on American debt instruments - they buy when they fall and sell when they grow, but they can fall. hi In general, people forge money for the budget through games at exchange rates and American securities.
  6. +5
    16 December 2015 12: 59
    worth over $ 7 billion

    Have they really made a decision? This is not the first reduction in support for Russia's direct enemy. And another 82 billion are still hanging. It is also necessary to decide.
    1. +1
      16 December 2015 13: 11
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And another 82 billion are still hanging. It is also necessary to decide.

      In the "fat" years, the total amount of American treasuries in the RF gold and foreign exchange reserves reached, if I am not mistaken, 140 billion dollars. For which special thanks should be said to "the best finance minister of all times and peoples" Mr. Kudrin.
    2. +1
      16 December 2015 13: 17
      So after all, the purchase of government bonds of overseas "partners" is carried out by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, but which the Russian Federation does not belong to. However, the GDP signed a law according to which, starting in 2016, 90% of the profits of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation will go to the fed. budget. So, "our" liberal-economic leaders of the Central Bank have nothing to invest in the debts of the Merikos, although according to the law on the Central Bank they are obliged to do this ...
  7. +4
    16 December 2015 12: 59
    Dear, not an economist, but why not invest where? Why not use the same money or securities to create your own fund, or joint, what is the essence of investments in American papers?
    1. +2
      16 December 2015 13: 28
      "... what exactly is the essence of investing in American securities?"
      To ensure the hegemony of the SGA.
      The legacy of EBN rule and the death of the country in the 90s.
  8. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 00
    Well, if you can pay with these pieces of paper for real assets, then why not ...
    After all, it makes sense to buy these securities.
  9. +14
    16 December 2015 13: 00
    ... "since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite lie in our banks, you still need to figure it out: is it your elite or is it already ours?" / Brzezinski /.
    And a certain Kudrin was very fond of "investing in American debt", so whose minister was he ????? )))))
    1. +2
      16 December 2015 13: 05
      Quote: Severomor
      "Since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still need to figure it out: is it your elite or is it already ours?" / Brzezinski /.

      What year was it said?
      1. +2
        16 December 2015 13: 28
        What year was it said?


        December 2009, an appeal to scientists on the missile defense problem, full phrase:
        “I don’t see a single case in which Russia could resort to its nuclear potential while there is $ 500 billion in American banks belonging to the Russian elite. And then he added: you still have to figure out whose elite is yours or ours. This elite does not in any way connect his fate with the fate of Russia. They have money already there, the children are already there ... "

        Kudrin from March 9, 2004 - Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation, from September 24, 2007 - May 7, 2008 - Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation - Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation.
        1. 0
          16 December 2015 15: 56
          Quote: Severomor
          This elite in no way connects its fate with the fate of Russia. They have money already there, the children are already there .... "
          Maybe maidan stir up? wassat
          1. +1
            16 December 2015 16: 08
            Quote: fif21
            Maybe maidan stir up? wassat


            In the sense of "their" children will start burning tires there? I AM FOR. Question: how to unite children so-called "angry"?
    2. WKS
      +1
      16 December 2015 13: 47
      Quote: Severomor
      And a certain Kudrin was very fond of "investing in American debt", so whose minister was he ????? )))))

      Who gave him the title of best minister? That and the owner.
  10. +4
    16 December 2015 13: 01
    All d @ rmo that America could do for Russia - she did. Further - only more. The question is - why maintain her debts? No, she died, she died. Let her masturbate herself.)
  11. +4
    16 December 2015 13: 01
    Enough "unfastening" money to our enemies! We must invest in the development of our own economy, and not in the "foreign" one.
  12. +8
    16 December 2015 13: 04
    Do not flatter yourself:
    in 2012, "the Russian authorities transferred tens of billions of dollars to America for safekeeping. Moreover, we lend our money to the United States at 0,7%. After that we borrow money abroad at 6,48% - 8,65%. In other words, we We are simply giving this money to representatives of Western financial capital. Although it would seem that this is real money that could be used for the development of the country, transport infrastructure, economic and social development. "
    (article of the end of 2013)

    By the way, over the past year, investments decreased only by 4 billion. and about 74 mld. the Fed continues to help.
    (reality)
  13. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 05
    I bought a package of toilet paper. Also packing paper towels for the New Year. I propose to invest money in them, I will write anything. Dedicated to the Minister of Finance.
  14. +6
    16 December 2015 13: 06
    By the way, one of the examples, as it were, of the elite’s patriotism, says one thing, but in fact it’s different, and what they reduced, why invested at all, to hell ... I remember how Kudrin squealed that it was necessary to sterilize excess paper so that inflation would not be dispersed, and industry died with agriculture from high interest and the inability to lend normally ...
  15. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 11
    What can I say about this?! .. Nothing ... As for everything that happens in Russia!
  16. +7
    16 December 2015 13: 15
    The article is misinformation. Namely - here is this statement:
    It is noted that when considering a more extensive time interval, Russian investments in US government bonds increased. Just over half a year ago, they (investments were) about 70 billion dollars.


    Such figures should be looked at in the long run.
    We climb through the archives and:

    October 2014 - 108.9
    November 2014 - 108.1
    December 2014 - 86.0
    January 2015 - 82.2
    February 2015 - 69.6
    March 2015 - 69.9
    April 2015 - 66.5
    May 2015 - 70.6
    June 2015 - 72.0
    July 2015 - 82.1
    August 2015 - 89.9
    September 2015 - 89.1
    October 2015 - 82.0

    Moreover, even earlier, the order of numbers was about 150 billion evergreens. So in the long run, I gradually observe a rejection of the treasuries. laughing

    And "RIA Novosti" for oral services to American partners receives a VO prize in the "Golden Enema" nomination
    1. +1
      16 December 2015 15: 53
      Quote: Mik13
      Moreover, even earlier, the order of numbers was about 150 billion evergreens. So in the long run, I gradually observe a rejection of the treasuries.

      Sorry, but 2015 was apparently a very successful year for the economy of our country, especially in July and August, judging by the fact that the reduced to 66.5 billion was sharply increased to 89.9 billion .. Maybe I'm confusing something, but just at that time the understanding came that oil is not going to grow, and the investigator of foreign exchange earnings will not be seen .. I'm certainly not an economist, but still why the hell did we suddenly buy 23.4 billion pieces of paper? Did we have great prospects ahead? Or did the money burn your hands? Give at least one reason why we tore off $ 23.5 billion from our economy and financed the economy of the # 1 enemy of our state? I have no reasons other than sabotage and betrayal .. What do you write if our "wise" government bribes 15-30 billion pieces of paper before the new year? Why, the situation is improving! All trends are straight as in June. July is even more interesting! Won in the United States decided to sell oil on the side, thereby further reducing the foreign exchange earnings of Russia .. So we need to buy green candy wrappers again! This is the logic we see in our government.
      1. -1
        16 December 2015 17: 44
        Quote: max702
        I'm certainly not an economist

        That's it. Therefore, I am afraid that the conversation is essentially unlikely to succeed. Yes, and for comment, this is somehow slightly unformatted. And yet -

        Quote: max702
        What is one reason why we have torn 23.5 billion \ dollars out of our economy and financed the economy of the enemy No. 1 of our state?

        Because Treasury is the most convenient, cheapest (that is, less banking fee for these operations) and a reliable way to store US dollars.

        And US dollars are needed, for example, to support the ruble.
        Another dollar will be needed when paying corporate debts.

        Quote: max702
        What will you write if our "wise" government bribes 15-30 billion worth of pieces of paper before the new year?

        So far, the government is coping. By the way, they kept the ruble exchange rate during a speculative attack; they did not allow problems in paying corporate debts.

        So I would not cling to individual numbers. Especially if someone is brazenly manipulating them.
  17. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 16
    Six months ago it was 70 (see article), now 82 has become. There is a decline ... Some kind of strange arithmetic.
    How much you can build on this money with yourself, and there would obviously be more profit from the built.
    Or is such a logical chain for the translator of arrows (rename police) and the company inaccessible?
  18. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 18
    dear, again I don’t understand? Well, we don’t want to invest in our economy, then I propose to divide by the rate for each Russian citizen who does not want to let them lie in American papers, so we will decide on a mortgage and loans or a check for this amount, for cashing out that again you will sing about inflation, so she will eat them
    1. WKS
      0
      16 December 2015 14: 01
      Quote: 31rus
      dear, again I don’t understand? Well, we don’t want to invest in our economy, then I propose to divide by the rate for each Russian citizen who does not want to let them lie in American papers, so we will decide on a mortgage and loans or a check for this amount, for cashing out that again you will sing about inflation, so she will eat them

      $ 82: 000 = $ 000 per one, and if in rubles at the current exchange rate, then $ 000 x 150 = 000 rubles. For a month of modest life.
  19. +3
    16 December 2015 13: 20
    I don’t understand why to invest my money in someone’s debts. Well this is complete absurdity.
  20. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 25
    For Americans, the dollar is a sacred cow. So it is necessary to make sure that this cow, if not "grunt", then at least be very sick. And the result of the "disease" of the cow we will see quickly all over the world. At the moment, the dollar is essentially a virus that has infected the entire world economy and not only because this virus mutates and new diseases appear from it - wars of various types, states disappear and appear, etc.
  21. +6
    16 December 2015 13: 28
    [quote = afrikanez] I will never understand why to invest my money in someone’s debts. This is complete absurdity. [/ Quo
    I think it’s not so simple! Russia ranks 15th in terms of investments. 15th !!!! Do you consider the complete idiots of those who occupy the first 14 positions? I will not list them all is in the public domain.
    I am not an economist. Maybe my link will help to figure out a little why this is done.
    Link: http://www.liveinternet.ru/community/5643488/post367644429/
  22. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 30
    Investing in government bonds of other countries (in this case, the USA) is a profitable business. Another thing is the profitability of these investments. It seems to date, the yield on US debt is 2,2% per annum. That is, the Russian Federation earns on this, as I understand it, 1,6 billion a year. Now, just economists have to calculate what the profitability of these 82 billion will be if they are invested in the country's economy?

    Of course, there is no point in financing the enemy. But we must not forget that two years ago they were "partners". And to withdraw such a heap of money in a year or two is unrealistic.

    So our judgments may or may not be correct. It is difficult to manage the state. Too many factors. Anyway, more than one or two.
  23. +3
    16 December 2015 13: 40
    It's funny, people perceive this news as a victory ... So in general, why do we invest money there ???
  24. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 40
    I don’t understand !! 4 launches into space were in 2 weeks (not to mention the launches of submarines) Who released more into SPACE? what nah oil ?? what does ?? the best technologies and their application with us !!! what nah oil ?? what nah bax ?? ISS Russian Commander .. what kind of oil is it ?? Nabiullina Tsuku in the darkness
  25. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 48
    We invest in the economy of mattress covers, we risk being left without this money at any moment, and someone here is adding to this disgrace. Do you have any brains?
  26. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 51
    This economy is strange. For the simple reader it is not clear why to collect American debts and line up who will give more ... some kind of nonsense. Perhaps economists have their own ideas.
  27. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 57
    How many disputes ... well, probably they were wasted in vain, but they won’t be able to withdraw money at once, otherwise these same securities will depreciate at the expense of the times and there will be continuous losses to us. If you have already invested (got into it), then you need to display it carefully so as not to lose what it is. And everyone understands this, if I’m not mistaken, China itself is also slowly getting rid of American papers. The main thing is to get rid of them, so as not to cause a collapse of the debt market until the moment we return our own.
    I can make a mistake somewhere, because I am not an advanced financier, but I think the general meaning is clear.
  28. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 58
    Dear, well invested money, so according to the idea, in addition to interest, we also have a part of the US economy, so what are the sanctions? Another question is why "eggs in one basket"?
  29. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 59
    The most normal investment is gold. Suppose the dollar is still strong, but there is no absolute guarantee that nothing will happen to it (including for political reasons). Unfortunately, there is not so much gold in the world to really cover the reserves of states. Only Russia needs a plus to the existing 2000 tons (rather, even more). China - 20000 tons and so on.
  30. 0
    16 December 2015 14: 09
    they impose sanctions, etc., and our government invests money in their economy, I agree that some amount should be available, but it should also have limited sizes. If the Russian economy begins to crumble, there will not be enough savings.
  31. 0
    16 December 2015 14: 09
    Those. in other words, do we support the economy of a potential adversary? At any time, Americans can refuse to refund? Strange however, we have a financial policy .... They wipe their feet about us, and we support them
  32. +1
    16 December 2015 14: 24
    In December, Russian state-owned companies need to pay about 40 billion.
    dollars in debt to banks. Firms do not have that much currency.
    The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
    Bonds yield 1,5% per year.
  33. +1
    16 December 2015 15: 13
    State external debts of Russia (liabilities of the Russian Federation arising in foreign currency) as of July 1, 2015 amounted to USD 36,4 billion, and the total external debt of Russia (the total external debt (of the private and federal sector) of the Russian Federation) - USD 555,7 billion. It would be possible with these candy wrappers (government bonds) to completely close the state debt of Russia and still have left ... I do not understand at all why on income in dollars from goods sold abroad (oil, gas, nuclear power, military) then buy US bonds. The yield on them is scanty, and the maturity is years. Why do we need such gold and foreign exchange reserves, I don’t understand at all. It seems that they just do not know what to do with dollars. It seems that in 2015 this figure sometimes decreased to 55 billion dollars, and now it has "decreased" - 82. So it is too early to believe those who say that Russia's investments in support of US government debt are declining. It's just that the size of these investments, most likely, floats in the 60-90 region and depends on the maturity of these bonds. The strangest thing is that later, when GKOs are paid off, someone else has the sense to re-invest the cashed dollars again in the next issues of GKOs in the USA (that is, consider, again in the US economy).
  34. 0
    16 December 2015 17: 02
    Quote: EFA
    It will not work at a time, and if we withdraw all our investments for what will we exchange? We don’t have so many rubles - we’ll have to print. And what does this threaten? Voooot.

    So it’s not so simple.

    And the proposals of economists like Glazyev just offer to increase the ruble issue, but at the same time not just give to all sorts of different banks, but direct them to domestic investments to support certain areas of economic development. Then the outflow of this money for the purchase of foreign currency by banks is excluded, which means that a speculative factor is excluded, which in the current conditions is done by banks (speculation) by simply transferring money to the banking system! So do not be afraid to print the required amount of money - you need to use them correctly! hi
    1. cap
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      16 December 2015 17: 47
      Quote: Vlad5307
      And the proposals of economists like Glazyev just offer to increase the ruble issue, but at the same time not just give to all sorts of different banks, but direct them to domestic investments to support certain areas of economic development. Then the outflow of this money for the purchase of foreign currency by banks is excluded, which means that a speculative factor is excluded, which in the current conditions is done by banks (speculation) by simply transferring money to the banking system! So do not be afraid to print the required amount of money - you need to use them correctly! hi


      Therefore, his proposals are blocked primarily by bankers and their communities. Players on exchanges. The real sector is long and unprofitable. It is better to give interest to the population.
  35. +1
    16 December 2015 17: 06
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    Russia in October of this year reduced its investment in US bonds by more than 7 billion dollars.

    - The beginning is good, but something o-very slowly, we UNDERSTAND them!

    And you can’t quickly, because then the dollar will collapse right away. We’ll lose everything on IT. It’s good that Japan and China overtake us like this in this matter, their losses will be inevitable, but they are also trying to minimize them. And that the process has begun is good. The less they buy their stock from the United States, the less they can print their dollars.
  36. 0
    16 December 2015 17: 09
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
    Bonds yield 1,5% per year.

    And investments in Russian bonds give a much higher percentage of why foreign funds, even American ones, are happy to buy them. But why are ours so invested in imported ones that give almost zero income in the aggregate - is it unclear? Mb one of our leaders earns loyalty to the State Department of the SGA?
    If this is not so, then what is the trick - the product is kind of unprofitable! No. ? fool ?
    1. cap
      0
      16 December 2015 17: 59
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The shortage of either the Reserve Fund or take, or sell part of the US government bonds.
      Bonds yield 1,5% per year.

      And investments in Russian bonds give a much higher percentage of why foreign funds, even American ones, are happy to buy them. But why are ours so invested in imported ones that give almost zero income in the aggregate - is it unclear? Mb one of our leaders earns loyalty to the State Department of the SGA?
      If this is not so, then what is the trick - the product is kind of unprofitable! No. ? fool ?

      Only the best banker in the world knows. I’ll tell you the last name only to no one else. Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina.
      In May 2014, she ranked 71st in the Forbes magazine's ranking of “100 Most Influential Women in the World”. Nabiullina became the only representative of Russia in this ranking.
      In September 2015, Euromoney magazine recognized Elvira Nabiullina as the best leader among the heads of central banks in the world in 2015.
      And yet, she was an excellent student at school.
      Personally, I have nothing to her.
      Well, why so "shitty" probably only she knows.