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Will the new armistice agreements in the Donbass be respected?

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The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, told the press that the contact group in Ukraine was able to reach an armistice for the period of holidays. In addition, the parties managed to reach a consensus on the issue of demining activities of individual territories in the Donbas.
RIA News bring the statements of Maria Zakharova:


New agreements on demining were reached, the proposal of a complete cease-fire during the New Year holidays and Christmas was supported. It can also be stated that by the end of the year another meeting of the contact group will take place, there is an appropriate agreement.


It is worth noting that an agreement on a truce has been reached, so to speak, on top of the Minsk agreements, which already provide for a truce of the parties and a complete withdrawal of all equipment (up to technology with a caliber less than 100 mm). The withdrawal of military equipment to the burnout was completed on November 12, but the movement of individual units of armaments of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the so-called "volunteer battalions" in the areas immediately adjacent to the line of demarcation is still recorded.

Will the new armistice agreements in the Donbass be respected?


If the Ukrainian side is not ready to comply with the truce under the Minsk agreements, will it control itself in the format of a new truce? ..
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  1. Infinity
    Infinity 16 December 2015 12: 44 New
    +6
    From the beginning of the conflict they were not respected, and they will not be here ... It is not sad.
    But Ukrainian politicians need a war like air now. To divert people's attention and postpone the fall of power.
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    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 16 December 2015 12: 48 New
      23
      For some reason, instead of the flag of Ukraine or the USSR, I began to sculpt the American flag ....

      No will not be respected. approximately in the 20s the massacre will begin. We issued a decree for companies and stores to stock up on group pharmacies, for about 150 injured. The fact that the APU is constantly pulling together, I’m already tired of dropping reports. A lot of technology is observed.

      1. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 16 December 2015 12: 52 New
        +4
        while in the Donbass there are all sorts of "rooster national brigades" - no one can see the world there ... behind the Ukrainians the ear must be kept in sharp focus ...
      2. moskowit
        moskowit 16 December 2015 12: 54 New
        +3
        Judging by the map "Great Moldavia" will include Romania! Interesting...
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 December 2015 13: 31 New
          +3
          How and what can be negotiated with non-negotiable? They’ll make a trick in their blood, they promise the golden mountains and that’s all.
      3. avt
        avt 16 December 2015 13: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        No will not be respected. approximately in the 20s the massacre will begin. We issued a decree for companies and stores to stock up on group pharmacies, for about 150 injured.

        Yes. You are right. The probability of large-scale battles is 99,99%. Minsk №2 ends and it will not continue ykry, but actually
        The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, told the press that the contact group in Ukraine had managed to agree on a ceasefire for the holidays.
        stopud confirmation request so if not the 20th, then after the 01th for sure. Again, an indirect confirmation is Biden brought over a hundred-odd million of their dead presidents. This, instead of the IMF tranche promised and transferred from December 2015 to somewhere in 2016 for 3 yards in excess, again, Ukraine does not even receive GUARANTEES of state either USA or Germany. So the cashing-in pyramid through interest payments on public debt is covered, and toxic ukrobonds and other dodgers merge only by destroying the debtor without a successor, and this is WAR request So courage to you and your fellow citizens in the LDNR and good luck, but there will definitely not be a drain on the GDP and there will be help from the "North Wind".
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 16 December 2015 16: 16 New
          0
          So far, only a fraction of the VSU, although significant, has been transferred to the front. Including about 20 numbers is not a fact. On the other hand, the urki squeezed out the buffer zone - in the south and north of the DPR, which means they are ready for the offensive even if local. In principle, they prepared according to the technique, I think that they will try to use aviation unexpectedly. In my opinion, the most convenient strike site for them is south of Donetsk on Telmanovo. Again, they are grouped around the waves - there the strike force is created. In the LPR, they will probably try to advance to Bakhmutka or to Pervomaisk.
          BCH is the most trump place - to make a boiler near the village of Lugansk and the border with the Russian Federation. Plus, there the depth of defense is small and you can break into the operational space, taking something in the rear and jerkingly pushing the front and frontiers of the LPR for many kilometers. Well, the DNI should be taken by Avdeevka in order to push the front and secure part of Donetsk.
          Well, Marik is a super prize. If he is taken in any way, it will be super success, which brought down the entire southern front of dill and opens the way to Zaporizhia and Kherson regions. Urki will not be able to gain a foothold there seriously until the Kherson region. Well, after that you can arrange Minsk3 again so that our new defense is built, the wounds healed, the equipment repaired, the territory digested. But taking a marik is a very difficult operation without a north wind, and this fan is unlikely to be turned on when taking such a large NP. In general, in any case - good luck.
        2. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 16 December 2015 22: 57 New
          0
          Quote: avt
          The likelihood of large-scale battles 99,99%. Minsk №2 ends and ykry will not continue it, but actually
          And, I'm calling, fuck it to the Ukrainians ?! The current situation is optimal for the "Junta" - against the background of falling prices for energy resources, and, accordingly, the ruble, the introduction of "Plato", hostilities in Syria, confrontation with Turkey, etc. No.
          Moreover, the DPR and LPR are such a vivid illustration of the "Russian World" that you couldn't imagine a better one.
          And if God forbid "victory", you will need to take the rebellious southeast to the coast. It is clear that this "suitcase without handles" is best left
          in the load of the Russian Federation. In addition to the Crimea, Chechnya, Abkhazia and South Ossetia ..
          As in that movie "Balamut":
          "Trouble chairman, trouble. Students have collected all the potatoes.
          Where will we store .. belay "
          Moreover, in NAT, you can change the rules in the same way as in the case of the IMF - "due to special circumstances".
          And on the background of Biden's visit, an obvious attack on all fronts on Yatsenyuk and Saakashvili's PR activity, the confrontation is falling into an economic plane ..
          So, we are waiting for the appointment of Mishiko as Prime Minister, who will be the bulldozer of reforms and under which the West will provide financial resources for their implementation.
          Stepan Demura: Ukraine will become a showcase of Western democracy
          .
          And no matter how funny, but many Ukrainians oligarchs so become forced allies of the Kremlin .. laughing
      4. brisk
        brisk 16 December 2015 13: 37 New
        -9
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Lord of the Sith (2) Today, 12: 48 ↑ New
        For some reason, instead of the flag of Ukraine or the USSR, I began to sculpt the American flag ....

        No will not be respected. approximately in the 20s the massacre will begin. We issued a decree for companies and stores to stock up on group pharmacies, for about 150 injured. The fact that the APU is constantly pulling together, I’m already tired of dropping reports. A lot of technology is observed.


        Where are you from, Vladyka-Father? Apparently, you are just cowardly from the desire that they are NOT respected, the agreement is something. This is very strange. If you are really from Donbass. All people - even from the Donbass, even from the densest Polesie Zhytomyr region, they are all for the coming of peace, and not for war and murder. Is that sitting in Canada and in Australia, you can croak "for the war to the bitter end", because then he himself does not drip by the collar. And you constantly whip up some kind of military psychosis ... And then --- this one attached to the top of the polit. with a card, you betray a biased politician in yourself. I would also like to include England, Scotland and Wales as federal districts in Great Russia. In short, the British Isles. But I don’t paint the cards in the appropriate Russian colors and don’t post them on the Internet, although I own both Photoshop and Corel draw ... There are internationally recognized borders of Ukraine, whether someone likes it or not. DPR-LPR can be highlighted in a different color, if you are from there and there was and there is a war with the rest of Ukraine ... So who are you really - a resident of Donbass who wants peace on his land or just a worker of the ideological front? If the second option, then the prices are the lowest and wasteful to all your reports on the loss of 200 dill for several thousand.
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 16 December 2015 16: 10 New
          0
          Quote: svelto
          actually from where? Apparently, you are rightly shy from desire

          you yourself then otkel drawn here?
          1. brisk
            brisk 16 December 2015 17: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Olegovi4
            Olegovi4 (1) Today, 16:10 ↑
            Quote: svelto
            actually from where? Apparently, you are rightly shy from desire
            you yourself then otkel drawn here?


            Country Ukraine. City --- Zaporozhye. Distance --- from my house to the city center of Donetsk 201 km. Enough? The coordinates of my house in type xx.01 ** 83, yy.80 ** 05 I will not spread. You don’t need it, and the rules of confidential behavior are also against.
        2. Don
          Don 16 December 2015 17: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: svelto
          If you are really from Donbass. All people - even from the Donbass, even from the densest Polesie Zhytomyr region, they are all for the coming of peace, and not for war and murder. Is that sitting in Canada and in Australia, you can croak "for the war to the bitter end", because then he himself does not drip by the collar.

          And I’m not only sitting in Donetsk, but also fighting, I’ll tell you that I don’t want war, but I don’t need to find the enemy 8 km from my house. And not for this, my friends and I fought to give their land to dill. And do not forget that many of the guys who are now at the front are from cities and villages that are now under dill. It’s not for you to tell us about pacifism; it’s not you who were under artillery fire.
          1. brisk
            brisk 16 December 2015 17: 31 New
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            Quote: Don
            And I’m not only sitting in Donetsk, but also fighting, I’ll tell you that I don’t want war, but I don’t need to find the enemy 8 km from my house. And not for this, my friends and I fought to give their land to dill.

            You can negotiate for years and decades, without peace, but also without war. That's what we're talking about. And the rulers are talking about the same in the negotiations today. So personally you ---- WANT TO Fight. And some of your neighbors on the street and at home absolutely and colossally DO NOT want this. The rulers, damn it they go to negotiate, but he wants to fight ... And I'm under dill. I live poorly, but 1000 times better than if the shells exploded around me now. And I even dare to suggest that I live in my own Zaporozhye now better than if I now lived in the same way in Donetsk. Two times. And I don't want a shell in myself. Do you want a shell for your relatives in Donetsk? Or have your relatives all gone to Kamchatka, away from Donbass? The rulers, damn it, agree, and the gray bugs kindle wars with their verbal bileberd. And not only verbal. They fought to fight, but they who fought are also different. Do you have any arms or legs? With you? Do you want to continue to be with them or to free yourself from them in the war, into which you are now torn? Or you fought like this, being deputy. on the rear on the Tashkent front? No way! You crawled into reconnaissance for languages ​​... So let those people in Donbass, who do not want shells and bombs on their homes, live a normal life. Not enough 5 thousand civilians killed in Donbass? Do you need a new military campaign so that there are 200 thousand of them? Think about people, not just about your "fighting desires." So much for all the pacifism.
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 December 2015 12: 50 New
      15
      And when the truce was observed by dill? Look at the photo invincible in the cauldrons, several times wounded in a dupon Semen Semenchenko knows this.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 16 December 2015 13: 02 New
        +5
        Thank you smiled, this one will definitely not observe anything, the smoked leader of the Macington macaques through his ambassador does not allow.
      2. Altona
        Altona 16 December 2015 13: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        Won the invincible in the cauldrons

        --------------------
        In the photo, there’s some kind of army of goblins, homegrown predators, they must go to the toilet on a schedule, and they were entrusted with weapons. Especially sitting in the front row, there with a machine gun who is in his beard, in general a maniac.
        1. infantryman2020
          infantryman2020 17 December 2015 07: 24 New
          0
          Observing appearance?
          Ours in Chechnya at the end of 1994 and the beginning of 1995. looked even worse. Was he at least once in the war?
          I was.
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  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2015 12: 46 New
    +1
    Will the new armistice agreements in the Donbass be respected?

    The question is purely rhetorical. When did Ukraine comply with something especially in terms of "Minsk"?
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 16 December 2015 12: 53 New
      +1
      Never.
      And there will be no truce as long as such inadequate figures as Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are at the helm of the Outskirts, and the Rada has become a branch of MMI. As long as pravoseki and other vile creatures are rampaging in the territory of this state.
      1. brisk
        brisk 16 December 2015 18: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair0304
        Never.
        And there will be no truce as long as such inadequate figures as Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk are at the helm of the Outskirts, and the Rada has become a branch of MMI. As long as pravoseki and other vile creatures are rampaging in the territory of this state.


        Will be. A truce will be. Compare with what happened a year ago and today. The truce is there. If it weren’t necessary, then in Europe and the world they would know about Minsk only that it is the glorious capital of a good country in Belarus. And not a city of agreements. There will be a truce. The more normal people do not want nuclear war. Unless some individuals with a nuclear form of schizophrenia intensely desire it.
  3. venaya
    venaya 16 December 2015 12: 46 New
    0
    I think the very difficult economic situation in Ukraine does not give another opportunity to resolve them otherwise than by provoking new tensions in the Donbas. Here, at a minimum, the task is to distract the attention of its citizens from the absence of any prospects for the development of the country and, therefore, to the impossibility of increasing the economic well-being of its citizens.
  4. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 16 December 2015 12: 47 New
    +2
    Yes, well, faces, as our deputy techie said at the exercises, seeing us at the formation: "You ... b ... are not even a gang, but a herd of Honduras" repeat
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 16 December 2015 12: 57 New
      0
      Yes, what are you ?! These are the best sons of Ukraine, its "cream", the army elite and the gene pool! And you enroll them in the "scourge brigade" ... I'll go and reread Lombroso!
  5. Urals
    Urals 16 December 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    No, Kiev first needs to be charged with a wooden spoon in the forehead, only then from this position you can talk about something with them. There were too many points indicating that Kiev was not the master of its word.
    1. antifa
      antifa 16 December 2015 13: 20 New
      0
      Not Kiev is the master, but Washington, everything will be done according to the scenario of the latter.
  6. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 December 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    It is necessary to negotiate with the United States. Poroshenko can’t do anything.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 16 December 2015 13: 04 New
      0
      Negotiating with the USA is even more futile.
      When Obama beat Romney in the 2012 elections, he emphasized that Romney was too negative about Russia, was going to renew the Cold War and, in general, was a bad militant hawk. Peace with Russia and good neighborly relations, a "reset" - this is what Obama promised.

      What do we see in the present?

      15. Instead of wars - bridges and roads
      Obama wants to use the money saved from the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and Afghanistan to improve roads, build bridges, airports and other infrastructure facilities. In addition, the money can be spent on paying off the budget deficit.

      This is another Obama election promise. Done? - no. So, chur us, chur. With such friends and enemies, you don’t need to.
  7. Alexey Lesogor
    Alexey Lesogor 16 December 2015 12: 54 New
    +1
    And what about Matarola with Givi is not at all heard? How are the guys doing?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 16 December 2015 13: 47 New
      0
      We respected the reporting on TV, preparing for battles, training youth, created an obstacle course from boxes from under different shells and train, practice moving and fighting
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2015 12: 54 New
    +1
    And the central figure in the photograph has been pacing around the earth for more than a year. With such a wait for something positive is useless.
  9. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 December 2015 12: 58 New
    +5
    The answer is clear: they are not respected and are not going to do it!
    I don’t understand why, with such an attitude of Ukraine towards Russia (frauds, blockades, non-payments, etc.), our banks (VTB24 and BEAC) are capitalized and re-capitalized, diz is being delivered. fuel, coal, app. parts for heavy loads !? To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?
  10. Andrea
    Andrea 16 December 2015 12: 58 New
    0
    I doubt it is angry! Why Ukrainians do not have faith? It seems that there were a kindred people (or rather, one reformatted people, a flash drive pancake), but less faith than the Turks.
    You can’t relax on holidays, in vain, that they dragged weapons to the front line?
  11. newcomer
    newcomer 16 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +6
    I think the new year will be hot.
  12. Leprekon
    Leprekon 16 December 2015 13: 29 New
    0
    The question is, why were photos of war criminals inserted into the article? Or does the author of the article consider them forcibly mobilized soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? How, the plot of the truce is associated with the sight of these scumbags? Or are there not enough photographs where peaceful people die during this truce?
    The approach to the problem from the stand of the show is unacceptable!
  13. Belarus
    Belarus 16 December 2015 13: 32 New
    0
    There is no doubt that the war will doubt this. I said earlier that for the peace one of the parties needs to be demolished the other side to zero. Even if we proceed from the Transnistrian republic’s variant, all the same, Ukrainian nationalists should be removed from at least the whole territory of SE .Otherwise, nothing will work, just nothing will happen without the support of the Russian Federation, everyone has already understood this.
    I have the hope that if I rock the boat in the Donbass, then this will be the last jerk in the direction of S.V. I also have hope for surprises that may be on the way to the country.
    1. brisk
      brisk 16 December 2015 18: 15 New
      -2
      Quote: Belarus
      Belarus (5) Today, 13:32
      There is no doubt that the war will doubt this. I said earlier that for the peace one of the parties needs to be demolished the other side to zero. Even if we proceed from the Transnistrian republic’s variant, all the same, Ukrainian nationalists should be removed from at least the whole territory of SE .


      There will be no war. In Transnistria, how many without war? 23 years, since 1992. So in the Donbass there will be no more war. Don't you want a war there? I do not want. And I really do not want a new war in the Donbass and Ukraine. She will not be there. And let's stop playing along in geopolitics. Even in the sofa-computer noosphere. These play-ups in geopolitics that we absolutely do not need are only trump cards to those who need it. The circle of these people is narrow, and let them be further away from the people. Then there will be no war.
      1. avt
        avt 16 December 2015 21: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: svelto
        There will be no war. In Transnistria, how many without war? 23 years, since 1992. So in the Donbass there will be no more war.

        fool In Transnistria there are Russian troops / peacekeepers and there are about 250 thousand Russian citizens with very specific Russian passports, and after 08.08.08. and present-day Syria, only a clinical idiot can decide that Putin will not fit in and will “merge” them when attacking them. So I don’t recommend the great Ukrainians to even look askance in that direction. Although you’re just going there, a drunk appointed by us is sitting there. The sent, who strives to jump into the chair of the prime minister.That and in the Crimea, the fleet stood and did not give the ykrodruzhba train to bring in and the local troops got to the weapons - only one battalion of ukromorpekhs was crushed at night, which, in fact, was dual subordinate to Kiev and NATO.
        Quote: svelto
        . She will not be there. And let's stop playing along in geopolitics. Even in the sofa-computer noosphere. These play-ups in geopolitics that we absolutely do not need are only trump cards to those who need it. The circle of these people is narrow, and let them be further away from the people. Then there will be no war.

        wassat fool ,, We will accept strangled his wife, and he stood nearby and said - “Be patient! Maybe it will be okay. "
  14. ARES623
    ARES623 16 December 2015 13: 41 New
    0
    The Ukrainian authorities make any movements for some reason. They gathered (mobilized) a bunch of people from their households and fed them to state funds, moved a lot of weapons to an unknown direction, etc. The person who controls these processes obviously does all this for a purpose. But with what? Obviously, he wants to create an advantage in some place on the line of contact that no one should know about. What for? The conclusions are obvious. No one will be wasting money without expecting returns and additional dividends. But there is only one profit - war. Today it is very necessary for Ukraine (the government). And urgently. Frosts are getting closer and closer, utilities are becoming more expensive. What else to blame for all the failures? And after NG, Russia also closes the border to Ukrainian exports. The forecast is sad. With a probability of 90% war to be.
  15. Wolverine
    Wolverine 16 December 2015 14: 04 New
    0
    All in anticipation of a grand schucher, God willing will carry.
  16. kitamo
    kitamo 16 December 2015 14: 15 New
    0
    what faces are all spiritualized in the photo ... =))
    where they only recruit them, they see all garbage cans from homeless people on nenka freed ... well, at least some good ...
  17. Roust
    Roust 16 December 2015 15: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey Lesogor
    And what about Matarola with Givi is not at all heard? How are the guys doing?

    We will soon hear how they and the guys will make their signature dill salad. A salad called: "Eat, mattress!"
  18. skaramaks27
    skaramaks27 16 December 2015 18: 36 New
    +1
    I carefully examined the photo. We recognize only SEMEN, the rest of the goblins. this is not an army, this is the PUNISHERS. It is written on their faces that they will not fight, but will kill the defenseless.