"From a dead donkey ears" to them, not contributions (to the Council of Europe)

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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Finance of Russia on the eve decided on the need to jointly discuss the question of the procedure for the payment by the Russian Federation of membership fees to the Council of Europe (CoE). Today’s Council of Europe consists of such structures as the Parliamentary Assembly (PACE), the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), the Committee of Ministers of Foreign Affairs, as well as advisory bodies, including the Venice Commission studying the constitutional rights of the CoE states.

It should be recalled that for some time (or more precisely, since the spring of 2014), the powers of the Russian delegations at once in several organs of the Council of Europe have been substantially curtailed. In some cases, Russia was deprived of the word and the right to vote, and in some for the representatives of the Russian delegation, the right of an advisory member was left, in other words, the right of statisticians who can sit in the hall solely for a tick - the attendance tick in the Council of Europe bodies.

The most interesting thing is that, having limited Russia in powers, the European "partners" did not even think about taking care of reducing the membership fees paid by the Russian Federation. Usually it was not at all customary to talk about these contributions at all, for by the same Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation it was considered that they (contributions) were “not so high”. However, in reality, payments made by Russia to the treasury of the Council of Europe look very impressive.

Thus, the fixed contribution of Russia to the CE in recent years has amounted to no less than 23 million euros per year. If you translate this amount into rubles at the current rate, you get more than 1,75 billion rubles. For comparison, this figure corresponds, for example, to the annual revenue (without subsidies and subsidies) of the budget of the resort city of Anapa. Or is it, for example, the sum of expenses for education in 2015 in a Russian city like Blagoveshchensk.

That is, Russia is being stifled by sanctions, delegations in international bodies are deprived of their legal rights, but at the same time the money continues to be pulled out of the Russian budget, although this money could well go to support domestic Russian initiatives, including educational or recreational. It is unlikely that any constituent entity of the Russian Federation would refuse “extra” 1,75 billion rubles of budget revenues. But for the time being these revenues are leaving the Eurocrats, who are already crossing all the borders in attempts to annoy Russia.

It seems that the Russian government finally paid attention to this and decided to think about revising the amount of membership dues to the Council of Europe structures, in which Russia openly trying to silence and constantly move in the direction of the corner - supposedly guilty - stand here, but entrance fee still pay us regularly.

No, no ... As they say, pipes ...

Perhaps the decision on the need to revise the issue with payments to the “capsule” of the Council of Europe will mature more quickly due to a very peculiar attempt to make a shout to the Russian Federation as the Secretary General of the Council of Europe Turnnjag Jagland. Mr. Jagland announced that the Council of Europe “is extremely concerned about the decision of the Constitutional Court of Russia not to recognize the rulings of the European Court of Human Rights if such decisions are found to be contrary to the Constitution.” Such a decision in the Constitutional Court of Russia was announced last week. And the corresponding federal constitutional law was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin on December 14.

The emergence of a federal constitutional law in the Russian Federation, which allows it to ignore the decisions of the ECHR, if they will be contrary to the Basic Law of Russia, has plunged European “partners” into dismay. From Jagland’s statement:
The compatibility of decisions taken by Strasbourg (ECHR - author's note) and national constitutions is checked in some countries, such as Germany, Italy or Austria. Until today, these countries have always found a solution in accordance with the (European) Convention. This should be possible in Russia. Russia must comply with Article 46 of the European Convention on Human Rights.


This article says that all Member States of the Council of Europe undertake to abide by the final judgment of the Strasbourg court. Yeah ...


Concerned about Russia's decision to Jagland


What did the Russian side answer to this cry Yagland? Officially, nothing ... After all, as already noted, the Russian delegation, for example, in PACE, is deprived of the right to vote and “can afford” except for backstage comments. That is, ironically (and the fate in this situation is clearly making fun of the same Jagland), the Secretary General of the Council of Europe did not hear the official response in the PACE for the simple reason that his players deprived Russia of their right to vote.

It remains to wait for how this soloist Jagland will sing along with the rest of the choir of ìdemocraticî Europeans, when Russia really decides that instead of paying 23 million euros of contributions to the Council of Europe, send a package with great Ryazan horseradish or ìears from a dead donkeyî .
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  1. +37
    16 December 2015 06: 24
    Let the beads charge!
    1. +77
      16 December 2015 06: 29
      What for?
      Now it’s fashionable to measure everything with calibers.
      1. PN
        +35
        16 December 2015 06: 34
        Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.
        1. +20
          16 December 2015 07: 24
          Contributions want? Money? Who! Geyropeytsy?

          I pull out of wide leg ...

          No, not what you thought, joyful gay Europeans, but a model of the "Caliber" rocket.
          1. +16
            16 December 2015 08: 15
            Quote: Enot-poloskun

            No, not what you thought, joyful gay Europeans, but a model of the "Caliber" rocket.


            The author wrote well:

            instead of paying 23 million euros of contributions to the Council of Europe, send a parcel with big Ryazan horseradish
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            2. +35
              16 December 2015 08: 35
              If you mean horseradish as a plant growing in the garden - then please, high gay people will feel bitterness and pungency (especially if you send them the root part). And if it’s not a literal, but a figurative expression (I hope I don’t have to explain? - censored), then nafig, nafig - all of a sudden the gay people (given the current trends in gender policy, etc.) will like it - Russia then with them will not pay! laughing
              And to pay cash contributions to the two-faced Council of Europe ... let them disappear. Do you understand the sanctions on Russia, the limitation of the powers of its representatives in European advisory bodies, and Russia will also pay them for this. This is nonsense, it is unacceptable to the Power!
              I have the honor.
              1. +47
                16 December 2015 08: 51
                Well, it seems that it finally began to reach our political establishment (as it had been before the giraffes, it took two years already) that no one would play honestly with Russia! Let's hope that the Ministry of Finance does not actually allocate money, at least until Europe comes to its senses completely and understands that along the way with America they can only reach the edge of the abyss, beyond which there will be no future for anyone on this planet!
                1. +13
                  16 December 2015 09: 41
                  Yeah. Finally, they reached this theater of the absurd. It was high time.
                2. +13
                  16 December 2015 12: 13
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Let's hope that the Ministry of Finance does not actually allocate money

                  As long as there is a political decision to allocate money, the Ministry of Finance will not go anywhere. It is not his problem to decide whether or not to allocate money. Once he was ordered and the Ministry of Finance executes the order. Now an order is needed (decision, decree, law), do not give money to Europe. And the Ministry of Finance will execute it implicitly.
                  1. +12
                    16 December 2015 14: 02
                    Eugene, I wrote figuratively, for short! Do not consider others more stupid than yourself! As an economist, I understand perfectly well that it is not the Ministry of Finance in this case that makes the decision to allocate money! Do not fault so much on trifles! love
                    1. +2
                      16 December 2015 15: 43
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Do not consider others more stupid than yourself!

                      Well, why so rude at once? crying
                      On this site there are so many people who are completely unaware and have no idea where and how the money comes from. Many believe that this is done at the behest of the pike.
                      So this is not a trifle at all! love
                      1. +1
                        16 December 2015 16: 06
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        So this is not a trifle at all! love

                        Of course, 23 million euros. belay "This is not a trifle for your pockets" laughing (c) Khmyr "Gentlemen of Fortune"
                      2. -5
                        16 December 2015 16: 55
                        Do not quarrel. There is nothing. We paid, we pay and we will pay.
                      3. +1
                        17 December 2015 18: 43
                        Wait and see, Politics is generally a dirty business, if you look from the side. And those who will make the decision will most likely make it based on many factors. which will include, among other things, the great social significance of the fact of payment. so I think the matter of payment will essentially be decided by Lavrov.
                3. +3
                  16 December 2015 21: 42
                  And most likely, judging by what I read, Russia does not have the one who says NO and does not pay 23 lemons.
                  Again they will start referring to something to pay and to wipe themselves again.
                  It is necessary to appoint Zhirinovsky responsible for payments.
                  He will make so many come to Moscow - to pay so that Russia returns to PACE again
                  1. 0
                    17 December 2015 10: 25
                    Such a man is Putin!
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          3. +3
            16 December 2015 20: 18
            Quote: Enot-poloskun
            I pull out of wide leg ...

            Thick as a tin can
            See I'm a citizen
            And not some citizen
        2. +12
          16 December 2015 08: 23
          Quote: PN
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.


          At heart, colleague, there remains little hope that, after all, at least limiting the contribution.
          As it seems to me, this is more consistent with the new image of Russia as a sovereign state. hi
          1. +1
            16 December 2015 14: 39
            don't say gop, height not taken yet. Although there is hope that in this matter the Ivrogeans will be shown a bump under the sock
        3. +49
          16 December 2015 08: 45
          Good news article. Finally, the thing is moving from a dead (senility-frigid) point.
          The first is signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin on December 14 not to recognize the rulings of the European Court of Human Rights if such decisions are found to be contrary to the Constitution. ” If suddenly a liberal, oppositionist, ardent democrat, zealot of freedoms has a question - What are you doing? We are slipping into Totalitarianism / Middle Ages / lawlessness, let them first tell about one country WHICH IS THE APOGET OF DEMOCRACY -USA. Strange, but for some reason they put big .... on all the decisions of the ECHR. Each state has its own death penalty and it will be very interesting to hear about human rights for the residents of Ferguson and the rest of the US ... So, don’t poke a finger at us gentlemen European hypocrites, better raise your head and look at your master (who by the way it has been occupying Europe for over 70 years) and TRY ANYTHING to say something to it ...
          Second, about the contributions, it's time to close this farce, to the credit of our "Wild Russian" diplomats for a very long time endured the outright nastiness of "Civilized Europeans" against us, now we still have to pay for silence? This money (intended for a contribution to the Sharash office of the EU) must be PUBLIC spent on the construction of at least several Det. kindergartens / schools / sports centers if you want you can call them: School named after-Human Rights, Kindergarten -Demokratiya, FOK-Europe. I think they will appreciate it in the EU wink laughing
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        5. +6
          16 December 2015 09: 40
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. So we are, Russia is a generous soul
          Or the decline will be very slight. But essenno we will be told on the box that it is not advisable to completely leave this organization - Russia should be heard, at least on the sidelines, where the majority supports us ... blah blah blah ...
          That they are fools chtoli (our representatives) to sign their own incompetence and futility for that kind of money for so long and will lose their regular official trips and work in Europe. It’s the same as saying directly - excuse the Russians and Russia, you paid so much money, but we couldn’t do anything, politics! and we are so ...
          1. +3
            16 December 2015 18: 38
            And I still did not understand the specific ... will they pay or not? The phrase "decided to think about revising the amount of the contribution ...", sorry, but some kind of verbiage. I can't stand vague and indecisive people. More like blackmail ... I want to hear Putin's categorical order on this issue, not chewing snot!
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        7. bif
          +15
          16 December 2015 10: 15
          Quote: PN
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.
        8. +11
          16 December 2015 10: 46
          Of course they will pay, be cursed and pay. Well, so our liberals want to be Europeans, even in the anus itches.
        9. +2
          16 December 2015 10: 47
          PN RU Today, 06:34 ↑
          Yes, they will pay, they will not go anywhere. This is how we are, Russia, a generous soul. "
          ..Aha. For your grandmothers buy rods. Soak them in the water. Take off your pants .. and we, the Council of Europe, will whip you .... on command from the state committee .. laughing
          1. +1
            16 December 2015 22: 09
            Quote: 222222
            For your grandmothers buy rods. Soak them in water.


            Well then! European tradition! In the best private schools in England (Eaton, Rugby, Harrow), tuition fees included rods costs - 1 guinea per year. 1 guinea, if you count in gold for the current rate - 300 bucks, and in those days - the salary of a simple hard worker for a month. So estimate how many rods they spent ...
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        10. +2
          16 December 2015 11: 21
          ,, for the very same Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation considered that they (contributions) “are not that high.”
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul. ,,
          now let this very Ministry of Finance out of your pocket and pay. It’s not enough to collect these payments from their salary, let them take the loans. while the official will not answer with his pocket for his decisions, we will pay for their whims.
          1. 0
            16 December 2015 14: 51
            How is it from your pocket there are people and price increases, etc. No problem, it always has been and will be.
        11. +6
          16 December 2015 12: 54
          Quote: PN
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.



          How to say, how to say ... It seems to me that these organizations to Putin, and in his person - Russia - have already trampled all corns ...

          It’s high time to teach a lesson ... And there’s no need to say that WE will lose some platform ... We have been deprived of it for a long time ... For our money ...
        12. +1
          16 December 2015 13: 39
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.

          this is the most depressing thing ... their citizens are spread rot to the fullest, but they cannot send these tolerasts! politics, you think ... how Germany was sent to the last grain in the 41st, we all care about the image ... when will they turn their eyes to theirs ?? the only reliable support is our own people and the army! All! the rest on the residual principle - do you want money? I do not have them! take on account of payment from the debt of Ukraine! she’s already in ..., damn it, in Europe!
        13. +1
          16 December 2015 14: 47
          It is precisely noticed, because Europe is necessary for the country's elite.
        14. +5
          16 December 2015 15: 52
          The only organization with influence in this world is the UN Security Council.
          Everything else is a talking room. There is nothing Russia to do there at all. Why should an adult be in some kind of children's organization? And the Council of Europe is just a bunch of evil envious dwarfs. It is needed only by our parliamentarians - business trips, banquets, parties ...
        15. +2
          16 December 2015 16: 16
          Quote: PN
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.

          I think you're right. Sorry, our spineless policy in Europe, Ukraine, Turkey, etc.
        16. +1
          16 December 2015 16: 46
          I agree with you. There is only so much talk about how our people are humiliated in Europe. And we all suffer. The most painful money for Europe. This is what we have to beat. They don’t understand the words. Only the deterioration of our material condition brings us a little to life.
        17. +3
          16 December 2015 18: 01
          IMHO. I suspect that the heart of our upper democrats will tremble and make an advance payment for 2016 year.
          And I will be glad if this hunch does not come true ...
        18. 0
          16 December 2015 20: 18
          Quote: PN
          Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.

          What is so late to see, our deputies? They drove them everywhere, put in a corner, and they paid dues? Well, better late than never. And with their pay, they caused even greater contempt on their part.
        19. 0
          3 January 2016 09: 18
          I also think that they will pay.
          Because our Kremlin's enemies are called "partners", everyone is looking for recognition in the West ...
          You need your people to recognize you and be ready to "... build and live ..." under your leadership.
          Otherwise, everything is a farce.
          By and large, Europe would be in the wort, and ours all are lazy ...
      2. +4
        16 December 2015 09: 25
        Quote: ImPerts
        What for?
        Now it’s fashionable to measure everything with calibers.

        Just about 23 Caliber and learns smile
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    2. +15
      16 December 2015 06: 38
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Finance of Russia on the eve decided on the need to jointly discuss the issue about...
      bureaucracy is annoying, it sounds like the parties met, talked, and came to the conclusion that we need to talk. The solution is simple: don’t pay, that's all! No! Our bureaucrats need to make a whole problem out of this, then to solve it, get tired, and get a reward for it. And the question is, in my opinion, it is solved simply by a phone call from the GDP, and then execution. ALL! request
      1. +45
        16 December 2015 06: 50
        The question of contributions was almost the first one that arose in the normal part of the population after the restriction of Russia's voting rights in PACE. But Dimsik, like the entire economic bloc of the government, somehow somehow takes a very long time, although they are far from giraffes in growth. If you wanted to maintain the appearance of politeness, it would hardly have happened in a less acute situation, but now it is generally a utopia. Contributions should have been limited in proportion to the degree of our participation in the meetings - there is no active participation, no contributions, so pay purely for lunch.
        1. +4
          16 December 2015 07: 25
          Here's another answer to those who demand Schneerson's library, and to those who demand to pay for the "occupation" of Lithuania, and to Khodor for his claims ...
      2. +3
        16 December 2015 18: 43
        That is, the activity of "mediators" between the deciding person and the people performing is useless and redundant ...
        And all this huge ballast of "postmen" passing orders from top to bottom, we have to feed all these parasites.
    3. +7
      16 December 2015 08: 24
      Yes, this is the first thing to start with after the "punishment" of Russia! And I will clarify horseradish can be not only Ryazan, but also a team from all regions of its growth. Let them rub their sore spots especially on the head.
    4. +3
      16 December 2015 10: 03
      Surprisingly, this question was raised only a year and a half after the deprivation of rights by Russia in these organizations.
      1. +2
        16 December 2015 10: 54
        Quote: milann
        Surprisingly, this question was raised only a year and a half after the deprivation of rights by Russia in these organizations.

        No wonder. Who is the owner (50% + 1 share) of the Bank of Russia?
      2. +7
        16 December 2015 15: 07
        Quote: milann
        this question was raised only a year and a half later

        Nothing like this. Last year, Russia was almost sure of the restoration of authority and therefore made a payment. But the restoration was denied and at the beginning of this year the question arose! That's why he surfaced today. Payment must be made now, and discussions on the restoration of the rights of the Russian delegation will take place only in January.
        Once burned in hot milk, after a long time you will blow and yogurt.
    5. +3
      16 December 2015 10: 27
      From a dead donkey to them EARS and not contributions !!!
    6. +2
      16 December 2015 12: 18
      Quote: shimus
      Let the beads charge!

      or naked from the Crimean beaches ....
      1. +2
        16 December 2015 15: 02
        Quote: hert
        or naked from the Crimean beaches ....

        What did Crimean beaches do to you? These hucksters will quickly nullify the beaches. They began to take out chernozem from urkaina? And the pebbles will be taken out. They are ready to take out the jackdaws so that the brothels are not empty. laughing
    7. +3
      16 December 2015 12: 32
      Quote: shimus
      Let the beads charge!

      ------------------------
      You can give them coupons to the dining room of the State Duma. And then not everyone, and who does not piss against Russia.
    8. +2
      16 December 2015 13: 10
      But will they still pay or not? So far, again, only blah blah blah ... That's when we hear Russia made the decision not to pay .. then yes there is something to applaud, but for now we will wait a bit with the praises ..
      pc; Doubts take that we will cease to make contributions, because on this field a host of loafers, all kinds of representatives, members of groups and other idle evil feeds on them. .
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    10. +1
      16 December 2015 19: 03
      It is accepted to pay for rights, not for duties. Without rights, there are no last ones. It is surprising that we pay in advance for anything. Really for the handshake of individual iPhone strangers?
    11. +1
      17 December 2015 09: 31
      Quote: shimus
      Let the beads charge!
      1. -1
        17 December 2015 11: 44
        Question to Atalef. What does preoccupied sound like in Hebrew?
        Thank you.
    12. 0
      17 December 2015 10: 35
      Quote: shimus
      Let the beads charge!
  2. +18
    16 December 2015 06: 31
    It’s high time to stop these payments, otherwise it turns out how to take the first installments from Russia, but they don’t want to build a normal relationship.
    1. +19
      16 December 2015 07: 21
      Yes, all this noise is garbage - they make a noise, cheeks push and pay.
      Our entire government is like a crowd of old women - there is a lot of noise and little use.
  3. +7
    16 December 2015 06: 31
    so that instead of paying 23 million euros of contributions to the Council of Europe, send a parcel with a big Ryazan horseradish or with "ears from a dead donkey." And from the vest sleeves ... in the appendage ..
  4. +4
    16 December 2015 06: 32
    old tradition, hard to believe
  5. +2
    16 December 2015 06: 35
    Send trampolines from Ragozin. Let them jump for "joy".
    1. +3
      16 December 2015 08: 15
      Well, why spend money on trampolines, in the "square" they jump without any devices. And it turns out great if you move away.
  6. dFG
    +6
    16 December 2015 06: 35
    Finally, less than two years of talk about contributions did not pass .... the main thing is that they do not change their minds again.
  7. +25
    16 December 2015 06: 36
    And the WTO to say "CHAO!", Otherwise they also imposed sanctions on us!
    1. +29
      16 December 2015 06: 43
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      And the WTO to say "CHAO!", Otherwise they also imposed sanctions on us!

      And this generally needs to be done in the first place, until the sanctions have been lifted. Wasserman has long written about this.
    2. +1
      16 December 2015 16: 31
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      And the WTO to say "CHAO!", Otherwise they also imposed sanctions on us!



      Yeah ... And for the exit, too, they hang so much that - mom, do not worry ...

      PS I can’t stop wondering - why not send this gop-stop company to the three merry ones - WTO ??? With these sanctions, so many violations have already been done against us ...

      Sometimes North Korea is remembered: he lives, regardless of difficulties, and sends everyone ...

      It turns out, I envy the poor, BUT - proud ...
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  9. +5
    16 December 2015 06: 44
    that they’ve gotten so late? No.
    1. +5
      16 December 2015 07: 25
      So they have not yet "duplied", that is, they have not been duplied. More "like a fish" ... Points are calculated. The decision has not yet been made ... It is not for their pensioners to "shy away". Here at the moment ...
  10. +2
    16 December 2015 06: 45
    limiting Russia in its powers, the European "partners" did not even think about taking care of reducing membership fees

    The approach, as always, is purely "businesslike" - we wrinkle you, and you, if you please, pay money for this pleasure. The answer is in the title of the article, with which I completely agree.
  11. bad
    +23
    16 December 2015 06: 46
    Concerned about Russia's decision to Jagland
    ... he's not only preoccupied ... he's also rear-wheel drive .. laughing
  12. +4
    16 December 2015 06: 51
    Another year, ngazad had not to pay to this pocket institute of Europe! Everything must be done according to their same concepts. If paid in full, then we must receive in full. Opportunities were cut for us ??? That means they will receive less money or not at all!
  13. +4
    16 December 2015 06: 51
    And what immediately Ryazan horseradish is, in our city of Ufa it is also growing rather big, overhanging, in the sense near the fence in each garden. Here there are no donkeys, although how to look, or rather, if you look at the officials, you can cut a lot of ears, but it’s better to collect all this riffraff and send it to PACE, then probably 23 million will not be sorry to cleanse Russia from filth.
  14. +14
    16 December 2015 06: 52
    Something of doubt takes that ours will stop paying.
    Our bureaucrats will be promoted a little and they will pay in quiet.
    Like not to conflict with our partners.
    How it all got !!!
    When will these bureaucrats have pride in their country? And they will start doing things without looking at their Western bank accounts?
  15. +4
    16 December 2015 06: 55
    It is better to send these contributions to the other side of the country - the Asian part of the Russian Federation is territorially larger and the neighbors on this side are more numerous
  16. +5
    16 December 2015 06: 56
    Well, yes, if it’s impossible to beat in the face,
    we’ll beat them in the wallet.
    And it’s real, it’s silly to pay for your presence as a spectator.
    Interestingly, Europe will tell us in response to this.
    Although no, it’s not interesting.
  17. +9
    16 December 2015 06: 59
    Yes, it’s better to give sick children for treatment. How many children can be cured with this money.
  18. +2
    16 December 2015 07: 02
    Let the one who orders the music pay!
  19. +4
    16 December 2015 07: 05
    Cool surname at cool eureka - I am glanda lol
  20. +10
    16 December 2015 07: 10
    Who knows why we were paid. Maybe we should keep our membership? Do we need it? Why? Who knows about this? They didn’t profitably join our OPEC, although they were called.
  21. +8
    16 December 2015 07: 10
    Contributions to the Council of Europe, WTO, etc. If you remove all these extra expenses, then not 1,75 billion rubles, but all 100 billion rubles will be typed or more. Still more surprising is the desire to get into without soap ... - to the Europeans. We are not a part of Europe, there is no visa-free regime - sanctions, they don’t put Russia on anything and at the same time pay them money .. Then why not pay Turkey or the United States - maybe they will have mercy on us and recognize democracy - you only have to pay a lot.
    1. +4
      16 December 2015 10: 22
      What does it mean that we are not part of Europe? We are part of Europe, actually. Europe ends in the Urals. Another thing, we are not part of the European Union. Do we need it?))
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    1. +2
      16 December 2015 10: 58
      Quote: Just BB
      posted the correct picture

      The text does not match the person depicted. All this pimple spread before Europe, spreading everything Russian.
  23. +4
    16 December 2015 07: 13
    The article is for us to fool, but in practice quietly will pay and silenceaaaa.
  24. +3
    16 December 2015 07: 27
    Why pay if the official reports of these commissions are officially printed! Read and throw in the ballot box! Also, exit the WTO, as sanctions are illegal and contrary to WTO status!
  25. +2
    16 December 2015 07: 31
    When a decision is made to stop paying for the fact that we are being poured mud, then, and only then, we can carefully (so as not to jinx it) talk about the revival of Russia.
  26. +3
    16 December 2015 07: 32
    And why are we scolding Jagland? We have our own Jagland government.
    1. 0
      16 December 2015 10: 14
      That is, the government is bad and you want to change it.
      Assign the good ones. Which then will become bad and you will want to change them. And so on until complete collapse.
      1. -1
        16 December 2015 11: 16
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        That is, the government is bad and you want to change it.
        Assign the good ones. Which then will become bad and you will want to change them. And so on until complete collapse.

        No, let’s cherish, cherish and dust off the current bad government! Suddenly, something else will be even worse and worse. Let it be better that this government smashes Russia to and fro.
        Still not tired of such a mantra?
  27. +3
    16 December 2015 07: 36
    still from the IMF to take the grandmother, in general the song would be ...
    1. +1
      16 December 2015 13: 16
      Quote: kitamo
      still from the IMF grandmother pick up

      This is where you have to start! And with the nationalization of the Central Bank.
  28. +1
    16 December 2015 07: 49
    This type of housing and communal services, and E. Glandy chairman. You pay the main thing, for what, but what difference does it make, there is a law
  29. +2
    16 December 2015 07: 50
    "From a dead donkey ears" to them, not contributions (to the Council of Europe)


    The article did not answer the main question, is this a wish or is it already a solution?
  30. +2
    16 December 2015 08: 01
    ... Write off losses to the government and deduct from their salary ...
  31. +10
    16 December 2015 08: 02
    Deprivation of the right to vote in the CE is a violation of the foundations of democracy in this organization.
    Why do we need such forums? In order to obtain first-hand comprehensive information and develop an optimal solution.
    The measure taken by the Council of Europe in relation to the Russian Federation testifies to the intentional bias of the Council of Europe, the deprivation of important information to the members of the Council of Europe and, therefore, misleading.
    In a difficult international situation, this is simply unacceptable.
    Why such a measure was introduced to hide from the public the fact that an organized coup in Ukraine brought to power not just an anti-national government, but it happened when pro-fascist forces were used, that a military-terrorist operation to destroy the population was carried out in the east.
    The fact that so many people are to blame for the OSCE inspectors issuing inferior information about the shelling of the village, they do not indicate that the shelling of the cities is carried out by the Armed Forces.
    And the height of cynicism is that the Russian Federation contains this undemocratic structure.
  32. +6
    16 December 2015 08: 15
    This is all clear - they took the right of speech from us, but they want money. This is wrong.
    And what about this in the CE / PACE statute, such as obligations of the participating countries, imposition of restrictions and other crap? And what does Russia lose politically and not economically from the secession from CE / PACE? Well, I won’t believe in life that in 1992 they just got it and just applied for membership in the Council of Europe.
    Although ... then Misha-tagged a lot of that heaped up so to speak "from the bulldozer", he would burn.

    On January 25, 1996, Russia was admitted to the Council of Europe. In accordance with the population of the Russian Federation, the State Duma delegation was granted 18 seats in the Parliamentary Assembly.
    According to the official website of the ECHR, in 2014 Russia transferred to the budget of the Council of Europe (244 million euros) a contribution of 26 euros (almost 718% of the total).
  33. 0
    16 December 2015 08: 21
    Let Russia pay these fees, because there is more politics than common sense!
    1. 0
      16 December 2015 14: 27
      It doesn’t smell of politics here, everything is much simpler — a staff with a salary and a burial has been recruited, they have the right to vote, they do not have the right to vote, they go money. Where are you going to get these poor fellows? Tea wasn’t taken from the street.
  34. +2
    16 December 2015 08: 27
    A bit from the "Statute of the Council of Europe":
    and. The aim of the Council of Europe is to achieve greater unity between its Members in the name of protecting and realizing the ideals and principles that are their common heritage, and promoting their economic and social progress.

    Someone can explain how sanctions against Russia, as a member state of the Council of Europe, contribute to its economic and social progress?
  35. 0
    16 December 2015 08: 28
    I would forgive)))) simplicity is worse than theft))
  36. +1
    16 December 2015 08: 29
    The most annoying thing is that GDP will pay this installment. You will see.
  37. +6
    16 December 2015 08: 34
    They will pay where to get away, our very honest officials and liberals have a lot of houses and summer cottages there, not to mention the fact that all the money is in Western banks. In Russia, they steal and drag rats there. They consider their country as a little girl and nothing more. And they will not live here, tomorrow if they say what the dough was shot for, there will be no one to steer everything in the country. And for 25 years, the Europa has simply got used to what they need to growl and our liberals are becoming quiet at a stand, 25 years of a freebie will corrupt anyone.
  38. +7
    16 December 2015 08: 42
    If Russia is in the rank of extras in PACE, then instead of paying 23 million euros, you can photograph a stack of money for this amount and send a photo to PACE ... wink
  39. +1
    16 December 2015 09: 02
    oh, how interesting, have they really thought of it in the government, or who suggested on the street ...
    1. +2
      16 December 2015 13: 52
      Volka. Most likely on the street prompted! It’s unlikely that they themselves thought of it.
  40. +1
    16 December 2015 09: 13
    Fantasy no more. Well, if Putin is in full partnership with Poroshenko, then he will not quarrel with Europe.
  41. 0
    16 December 2015 09: 16
    Not to pay, as indicated in the article, the reason was already in 2014, but things did not get beyond the conversation. It turns out that they donated more than 2 billion rubles. If we don’t pay now, will those whose fault they paid for 2015 be punished? Therefore, my forecast: we will pay, but not the entire amount, for example 40-60%. I would like to make a mistake
  42. +1
    16 December 2015 09: 24
    and who pays it? How does the payment go?
    Apparently someone from our government is stealing from this payment)))) less pay - less can be stolen))))) Someone doesn’t really want to destroy the worked out scheme. Hence, such a slow reaction)))). But the money has really become scarce - so the payment will be limited by 100%
    1. +1
      16 December 2015 10: 18
      Teach how to steal from a fixed transfer.
      If the transfer is 20 million, then it is 20 million. No more, no less.
      1. 0
        16 December 2015 11: 31
        Of the 20 million, part will be returned in cash.
  43. 0
    16 December 2015 09: 25
    There are more questions, as always, than answers to them. What is the most right thing to do so that Russia's interests are not affected? You can, of course, cut it off your shoulder, but to what extent is there any reason now that Russia is striving to buy time to modernize the army and economy. And she is being pulled into the big war with all her might.
    1. +1
      17 December 2015 06: 24
      Do you think that if we pay, there will be no war ?!
  44. 0
    16 December 2015 09: 29
    What did the Russian side respond to this cry of Jagland? Officially - nothing ...

    Dogs bark, but the caravan is coming!
  45. +6
    16 December 2015 09: 53
    It seemed to me that membership fees in the Council of Europe would cease to be paid after the boorish decision of the PACE. However, no. Our Duma members began to argue with foam at the mouth that, they say, there was no need to puff out their cheeks, that something should be conveyed to the CE members, that when they come to Strasbourg, the Europeans agree with them, but then they vote against us. What can I say. Cheeks inflate only when sneezing, and even then not all. As for the conversations with the CE members, I have a version that the CE members simply wanted to get rid of our "truth-lovers" as soon as possible, because they wanted to drink coffee for free, or to go to the toilet, so they nodded impatiently. Therefore, I do not see any real reasons for us to go there, the sanctions were not canceled, even the meek Finns showed Naryshkin a turn from the gate. Perhaps our officials are pleased to travel to Strasbourg at public expense, but this is corruption. It would be nice if what the article was written about came true.
  46. +1
    16 December 2015 10: 04
    Quote: PN
    Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.

    My unforgettable mother-in-law often said: "simplicity is worse than theft" -We will pay. How I wish I would be wrong
  47. +1
    16 December 2015 10: 11
    I really hope that our authorities will not spit in the face of the people of Russia and will not take part in these disgusting covens of aging perverts.
    Otherwise, I definitely won’t receive taxes from me.
  48. +3
    16 December 2015 10: 14
    Our bureaucrats will make a noise, make noise in front of the electorate, rummage around in a box, and then quietly and imperceptibly pay the fee in full. As it was last year. Hanging out in Europe for budget money, with our deputies of various levels, in blood. If they wanted to cut the payment, they would cut the contribution for 2015 ... Who bothered? !!
  49. 3vs
    +4
    16 December 2015 10: 21
    It's time, in fact, to "optimize costs"!
  50. +5
    16 December 2015 10: 29
    Russia is not quite Europe, most of the country is in Asia. It is strange that we must obey the CE, and even without the right to vote, and in addition to pay for it. It smells like reparations of some kind, but we did not lose to the Europeans in the war.
  51. +3
    16 December 2015 10: 30
    Holy shit! The ruling of the European Court of Human Rights stands above the Constitution of the Sovereign State!!! How is that???
  52. +3
    16 December 2015 10: 31
    Dear, what contributions? For what? For the destruction of monuments to Soviet soldiers, for constant lies regarding Russia, what should we consider? Not a penny, until the policy towards Russia changes
  53. +3
    16 December 2015 10: 35
    Quote: PN
    Yes they will pay, they will not go anywhere. We are such, Russia is a generous soul.

    I'm afraid they'll do it again. And then they wonder why they try to wipe their feet on us.
  54. +2
    16 December 2015 10: 43
    It’s been a long time since there was a need to wipe away the West’s spitting and respond in the same way.
  55. +1
    16 December 2015 11: 00
    ..We need to be consistent...since we are also Europe, then for “....promoting economic and social progress..”, use these contributions to build in Russia plant No...., “long-range assistance products”
  56. +3
    16 December 2015 11: 00
    They imposed sanctions on us at our own expense; it would be stupid to continue this (contributions).
  57. 0
    16 December 2015 11: 15
    Stop being a "tolerant"! Not only are they trying to treat us like defeatists, they are also demanding money from us am
  58. +2
    16 December 2015 11: 35
    Can I get a little from the contributions, since we won’t pay anyway? wink I'm missing a little bit, honestly! laughing
  59. +1
    16 December 2015 11: 52
    It's high time... to close this valve of free money...
  60. +4
    16 December 2015 12: 12
    A bunch of people perked up with exclamations of “.. and before what we thought... it finally started to dawn..”, etc. IMHO, a cry out of nowhere.
    As far as I remember (many probably forgot), when we were offended in this very Council of Europe, Russia ALREADY made a contribution and it was simply unrealistic to scratch it back. And now the topic is “in the news” because the deadline for making the NEXT contribution is approaching and a decision needs to be made. There was no point in “pedaling” the issue earlier, for example, in the summer.

    My point of view on this issue is clear - DO NOT PAY. And regardless of what status Russia will have in this very CE. If not, then paying is simply stupid. If all rights are returned to Russia (sometimes miracles happen), then we should simply declare that “the payment has already been made”...
    Russia paid for “dinner in a restaurant”, which she was not allowed to eat. Incl. the CE has a certain debt to Russia. Let this debt be counted...
    The howl will rise to the skies, but we are not used to it. Well, if we don’t contribute money, what will happen, will Russia be excluded from the Council of Europe? Well, okay!!! If only we had been expelled from the WTO, there would have been a holiday (it’s a pity that such gifts are from the realm of science fiction)..
    The Americans dynamized the UN with contributions (and not the current one, but the previous one) and nothing terrible happened. And then some SE...
  61. +3
    16 December 2015 12: 30
    and that Russia has already refused to pay? Second question: why the hell is Russia in the CE anyway?
  62. 0
    16 December 2015 12: 30
    the article is good, but they will pay TC on the amount of salary of our officials, but on the contrary, there will be an opportunity to travel abroad at the expense of the state
  63. +2
    16 December 2015 12: 42
    I vote for the proposal of the previous speaker!☆☆☆tolancop☆☆☆!!!Don’t pay!
    After all, the result is the transformation of Organizations into an additional instrument of humiliation of the Russian Federation.
    At least for the sake of a squabble, demand your contributions back.?? Even if they don’t return them, but at least ours will stop being dumb payers and look like supplicants who agree to everything??. Or will they leave there after a squabble??
    Thank you for explaining all this in detail. Best regards.
  64. +3
    16 December 2015 12: 57
    Even if there is a right to vote, then what does it give? For some reason, the Chinese are not very concerned about the right to vote in Europe, probably because they are Chinese and do not try to seem like someone else.
  65. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 05
    Life changes, so do the rules. If the EU members don’t want to see the Russian delegation, they won’t see the money either. The same principle can be applied by the IMF. If the IMF has changed the conditions for lending to countries, then the procedure for issuing loans must be changed. An IMF member country, which is at the same time a creditor of another debtor country, does not have to pay its share of the total amount of the next loan from the IMF for the debtor country. Thus, the IMF must decide which of the IMF member countries should compensate for the missing part of the loan.
  66. +2
    16 December 2015 13: 08
    It remains to wait for how this soloist Jagland will sing along with the rest of the choir of ìdemocraticî Europeans, when Russia really decides that instead of paying 23 million euros of contributions to the Council of Europe, send a package with great Ryazan horseradish or ìears from a dead donkeyî .

    Looks like we'll have to wait a long time! Unfortunately, in our ruling circles there are too many tolerants, supporters of politeness, who are ready to endure, supposedly for the sake of “high and subtle politics,” the boorish antics of Euro-shit-cratizers who love to wipe their feet on it to satisfy their hatred of Russia!
  67. +1
    16 December 2015 13: 19
    A gluttonous gayropa with her tolerance only understands when she gets hit in the pocket. So this is a timely step and the most important thing is that it does not remain only in words.
  68. 0
    16 December 2015 13: 26
    Isn’t it easier to make contributions to these useless funds, like with gas for ruins? If Russia has rights, then we pay the loot, and if not, then let these cretins chew their bast shoes. Commerce, so commerce. And specifically for each meeting and not to do empty meetings. but only to the point.
  69. 0
    16 December 2015 13: 35
    It's time.
  70. 0
    16 December 2015 13: 51
    Moreover, on occasion, complain to the European Court of Human Rights about political persecution, after he runs away over the hill with a bag of government money.
    Quote: vladimirw
    the article is good, but they will pay TC on the amount of salary of our officials, but on the contrary, there will be an opportunity to travel abroad at the expense of the state
  71. 0
    16 December 2015 13: 59
    The prospects for Russia's relations with the EU are quite obvious
    All 28 EU countries believe that it is necessary to extend economic sanctions against Russia for six months. An EU representative reported this, RIA Novosti reports.

    It is clear that paying fees will be “money down the drain.”
  72. 0
    16 December 2015 14: 03
    Not a penny for the Gay Europeans!
  73. +3
    16 December 2015 14: 16
    Russia needs to comply with Article 46 of the European Convention on Human Rights. (c) Over the course of more than 20 long years, the arrogant EU has become accustomed to pushing and commanding, turning Russia into an outcast. They are accustomed to humiliating and insulting the honor and dignity of the Russian people. And also to “milk” Russia, and then suddenly there is a REFUSAL! and so quiet and everyday.
    But in fact this is a REVOLUTION! With the stroke of the President's pen, Russia has regained its status as a sovereign power! Of course, all that remains is to edit the Constitution, bringing it into line with Russia’s goals: ideology, sovereignty, etc. And also to nationalize the Central Bank and pursue an independent financial and economic policy, expelling liberals from the Government and from all key posts. But, nevertheless, a start has been made! God bless!
  74. +1
    16 December 2015 14: 18
    I have always written and will write that, how long will this continue, WE are openly called AGGRESSOR. ENEMY, and WE in response call THEM PARTNERS? Until WE stop cooing with THEM, and start talking to THEM in the GREAT and POWERFUL RUSSIAN LANGUAGE, with which we can talk with a business partner, and with the woman we love, and with the ENEMY, all this that has happened, is and will be. Now, if these bureaucrats at the top read our comments that we write here, they probably wouldn’t pay anyone, and they would send such “partners” YOU know very well where.
  75. wow
    0
    16 December 2015 14: 36
    More freeloaders were found to be blown up and torn apart!
  76. +1
    16 December 2015 14: 38
    Principled Baltic deputies should drink coffee in Strasbourg at their own expense, and not get their hands (and other places) dirty with the money of the aggressor country. When will we get tired of paying for these European get-togethers?
  77. 0
    16 December 2015 15: 12
    What "revision"? Don’t pay at all; leave the Russophobic PACE, or, at worst, suspend membership.

    The most worthless organization that only does what it studies with a magnifying glass"human rights"etc. in Russia.

    And this despite the fact that Russia’s contribution is one of the largest.
  78. +1
    16 December 2015 15: 42
    I read that there is talk about reducing our contribution to the Council of Europe, not about refusing to pay these contributions. If you stop paying completely, it means that Russia is leaving the Council of Europe, and we don’t seem to be going to do that yet.
    1. 0
      16 December 2015 16: 22
      We need to stay in the OSCE and leave PACE
  79. tao
    0
    16 December 2015 16: 49
    And who thinks about returning contributions for 2015? If they pay this year, I won’t be surprised.
  80. 0
    16 December 2015 17: 39
    It's not just about contributions. It is necessary to say goodbye to such organizations as the Council of Europe, the ECHR and PACE, to hell with it.
  81. 0
    16 December 2015 17: 46
    And just like money, they take it. The question is - why? Because membership in these European offices has been suspended? So much for European justice. And so it is with them in everything.
  82. 0
    16 December 2015 18: 04
    And our Constitution seems to contain the priority of international law over state law. Then it is necessary to amend the basic law. Or am I wrong?
  83. 0
    16 December 2015 18: 04
    It’s high time to deprive the Euro-bureaucrats of the Russian feeding trough. These are freeloaders, their impudence is off the charts. Not a cent to European institutions! enough! That's it!
  84. 0
    16 December 2015 18: 40
    Why the hell do we need to pay money for being showered with “slop” by these not particularly friendly gentlemen from the EU.
  85. 0
    16 December 2015 19: 07
    It was high time to do this. As soon as we were expelled from wherever possible, this was what had to be done. At once! They were waiting for something... And even now, I am more than sure that at our highest levels there will be “defenders of the democratic values ​​of the West”, on Fashington’s payroll, who will do their best to prevent Russia from refusing such “contributions.” The main thing here is to take note of such “common people” so that you can deal with them carefully later...
  86. +1
    16 December 2015 20: 31
    This is some kind of shame, as Comrade Shvonder said during his visit to Prof. Preobrazhensky. It is a shame for a huge (still huge) nuclear power to listen to the complaints of some little strangers whose size is smaller than our smallest region. And Germany is doubly a shame! The fascist country defeated by our soldiers dictates something else to us. And our primordial enemy England, the monarchy, teaches us democracy through the mouth of its lords. This is nonsense! First, let them make a revolution, put Elizabeth in the Tower, establish real democracy, and only then teach us. And in general, an elephant has no business listening to mosquitoes who sing from the voice of an overseas owner. Putin is doing the right thing, the conversation should be conducted in the language of calibers, so it will be clearer for them. And of course, don’t pay money, out of principle.
  87. 0
    16 December 2015 21: 05
    Will they decide to take such a step, that is the question!?
  88. +4
    16 December 2015 22: 09
    Our liberals will pay. You have to go on business trips to Europe and how the Washington regional committee will look at it. When Naryshkin was not allowed into Finland, what did our liberals do: they scolded, threatened, dried up and calmed down. S T Y D O B A!
  89. 0
    16 December 2015 22: 34
    I don’t believe that fees will be removed or at least reduced. I won't believe it until it becomes a fact....
  90. 0
    16 December 2015 23: 25
    Don’t give money, under any circumstances, at all...They are driving us out of there, but we have to pay?
  91. 0
    16 December 2015 23: 35
    Yes, no one will cut anything, our entire elite still have to live over the hill, they don’t, our elite flocks to Russia only for ... work.. but they have been living over the hill for a long time, like their offspring, so there won’t be any drastic measures, forget .In Syria, they started bombing only after Turkey began to balk at the South Stream and demand discounts, but here they are treating us about the fight against ISIS.. Our elite, like Amer’s, would even give a damn about the devil... ..and it was warm, both Crimea and Donbass, the same opera - Shakespeare and nephews, although they did business with Crimea and Donbass, people approved, and I am Crimean, it’s bad that all this was through deception
  92. 0
    17 December 2015 05: 32
    It's time to rein in European rudeness. a good response to sanctions is to deprive Europe of free contributions from Russia.
  93. 0
    17 December 2015 06: 21
    It was great! But I can’t believe it’s being decided!
  94. 0
    17 December 2015 07: 54
    Let's chat, make some noise, and then pay. This is politics. But politicians make noise after the fact, but always act for the future.
  95. 0
    17 December 2015 10: 49
    It is simply shameful to pay any fees to this gay European gathering of cowardly mongrels. All these people should feel the consequences of their imbecility.
  96. 0
    17 December 2015 11: 32
    Let them return all the money from the date of entry, and even sue them for moral damages, and put them in prison somewhere... in Siberia... fool
  97. 0
    17 December 2015 12: 07
    We need to leave both the Council of Europe and the WTO. Since there is no other worthy response to the sanctions. Don't bomb them because of sanctions. This is somehow very American.
  98. +2
    17 December 2015 16: 08
    Completely full of holes in their gay union
    am
  99. 0
    17 December 2015 16: 10
    What blah blah blah and concussion is this. You don’t have to pay, definitely :), but they will pay. It’s just that the patriotically minded public won’t notice this.
  100. VB
    0
    17 December 2015 17: 06
    Don't pay any money and leave the council and that's enough