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Nuclear disaster in Chazhma bay

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Nuclear disaster in Chazhma bay



August 10, 1985, the year before the Chernobyl disaster, in the Far Eastern Bay of Chazhma when replacing the active zones of two reactors conducted on a submarine K-431, part of the 4th flotilla nuclear submarines of Pacific Fleet, a nuclear disaster occurred, which led to radioactive contamination of vast territories.

According to a number of experts, the cause of the nuclear accident in Primorye, which later received the name of Chazhminskaya, and the subsequent Chernobyl accident, is the same: the specialists have violated instructions, having got used to the atom and considered that it is acceptable to communicate with you. However, any violation of the instructions leads to unexpected chance, which can be fatal. This is exactly what happened in Chazhma bay. Unfortunately, they tried to hide this state of emergency not only from the general public, but also from specialists, which is completely unforgivable. Many nuclear scientists believe that if truthful and detailed reports were made to the government or at least to the USSR Minister of Defense after the Chazhma accident, appropriate measures would be taken to inspect all nuclear facilities in the country, and a second, more formidable Chernobyl disaster would not have happened. And what is really quite surprising, even today, thirty years later, the nuclear accident in Chazhma is still little known.

How it all happened. The nuclear submarine (NPS) K-431 Ave. 675 was under repair in Chazhma Bay at the ship repair plant No. XXUMX. It was planned operation №30 - replacement of the active zones of both reactors. By this time, directly above the reactor compartment, elements of the lightweight and durable submarine hulls were cut and dismantled, and a special technical structure, the so-called reloading house, was installed. A floating workshop No. XXUMX was moored to the submarine, which had special equipment for carrying out operations for the replacement of cores. But the boat was the "third hull." Closer to the pier was a floating monitoring and dosimetric vessel (PKDS), the second from the pier - the repaired nuclear submarine K-1.

Overloading of the active zones was carried out by specialists of appropriate qualification - officers of the coastal technical base (BTB), who had already performed several dozen of such operations. However, it is necessary to point out that BTB itself needed repair. Built at the end of the fifties and intended for the repair and reloading of reactors, as well as the storage of fuel elements of nuclear reactor cores, the disposal of solid radioactive waste and the processing of liquid, the coastal technical base could no longer perform these functions. Its most complex and expensive facilities were in disrepair. Under the repository TVELov burst foundation. Highly radioactive water, seeping into cracks, flowed into the ocean. A system for processing radioactive waste, which was almost never used, was simply looted. Instead, the "craftsmen" found a simpler way - to pump a radioactive liquid into a dedicated technical tanker, dilute it with ordinary sea water to an "acceptable level", and then drain the resulting mixture into the ocean (in areas of special polygons). Later, the same method was used to get rid of solid radioactive waste. The protests of Japan and South Korea, and sometimes the pursuit of Soviet technical tankers by warships in these countries, did not change the situation.

The activity of the coastal technical base was formally controlled by the fleet's technical departments, or rather, their special departments, staffed by so-called "physicists". But when BTB is everywhere, it can be said, turned into scrap metal, and so simple methods were used for burial of radioactive waste, the techies decided to get rid of them: otherwise they would have to be responsible for inactivity and negligence in the end. The initiator of the transfer of bases directly to the flotilla of submarines was, however strange it may seem, the Main Technical Directorate of the USSR Navy.



On August 9, the reloading team officers successfully replaced the core in one K-431 reactor, but during an overload of the second, an emergency occurred. The bottom line is that when all the elements are loaded into the reactor, the lid is put in place, "wrapped", and then the reactor is checked for hydraulic pressure, that is, it is "pressed down with water" with a force up to 36 kg / sq. cm, the feed reactor did not withstand the required pressure, it dripped to 12 kg / sq. see. This should be immediately, as required by the instructions, to report back to the leadership of the Main Technical Directorate of the Navy. Perhaps it would have happened if the reactor reboot operations were monitored, as once again according to the instructions, by specialists from the technical administration of the Pacific Fleet (TU TOF). But they were not on the boat either on 9 or August 10. The reloading team decided to do without a report and fix the malfunction the following day on August 10 on its own. Perhaps this could have been done if it were not for an accident that is independent of them. The problem is that the cause of the leak was a foreign object that fell on the sealing ring. It was decided to raise the reactor cover, then clean the copper ring, and return the cover to its place. Then again carry out hydraulic testing.

And then came this tragic Saturday - 10 August 1985 of the year. The officers from the reloading team removed the fasteners of the reactor lid, and the floating workshop crane began to slowly lift it. Experts have calculated the height to which the crane could lift the lid so that the chain reaction did not start. However, they did not see that the compensating grid, as well as other absorbers, began to rise with the lid. A critical situation was created, and the subsequent course of events was already dependent on any chance. And, as often happens, it happened.

The lid together with the compensating grid and sinks hung on the tap at the floating workshop, which, God forbid, could swing and, therefore, the crane could lift the lid to an unacceptable level. At this time, from the sea, at a speed of the order of 12 nodes, torpedoes entered. Ignoring the warning signals set up by the fire watch, he was walking along the bay, raising a wave. She, of course, rocked the floating workshop with a crane. From this, the reactor cover was pulled out with the entire system of absorbers to an unacceptable height, from which the reactor in 12 h. 05 min went to the starting level. A chain reaction began with the release of a huge amount of energy. Then there was an upward ejection of everything that was in and around the reactor. The transshipment house burned out without a trace, the overload team disappeared in this flash. Plavmaster with a crane was thrown into the bay. The 12 t reactor lid was thrown vertically up to a height of more than a kilometer, then collapsed onto the reactor and fell down, breaking the hull below the water level that gushed into the reactor compartment. Not only the bay and the ships and vessels stationed in it, but also the territory, the plant and the village adjacent to the bay were in the radioactive contamination zone. The wind was blowing from the sea. Within a few minutes, everything around the K-431 nuclear submarine that had entered the release zone became radioactive. The level of gamma radiation in different places is tens and hundreds of times higher than the sanitary standard. In the center of the explosion, the level of radiation, which could later be determined by the surviving wedding ring of the deceased officer, was X-ray X-ray per hour.

Here's how these events were recalled by Vice-Admiral V. Khramtsov: “I was called to the telephone, on which the Operational Duty Officer reported in a breaking voice that a thermal explosion of the reactor had occurred in Chazhma. At first I thought it was not the worst, yet the explosion was not nuclear, and I felt a little better. Immediately went to the factory, arrived there around 16.00. The car drove straight to the pier. Around empty, not a soul. Furnished instantly. It was clear: K-431 was sinking, and the reactor compartment was filled with water, which had already begun to enter the feed compartments. The decision came immediately - to put the emergency boat to dry as if it were at the dock, but this required towing the floating workshop to the raid, freeing the emergency boat from all connections with the shore: mooring lines, electrical cables, ventilation systems, etc. ”



After the boat was cleared, the tugboat was put on the drain. K-431 has ceased to sink. On the boat arrived emergency party, consisting solely of the officers of the headquarters of the flotilla. When it was possible to drain the reactor compartment, and the boat podsplypla, a ragged board was welded. This allowed to put the K-431 back to the dosimetric vessel. The officers of the radiation safety service (SRV) of the flotilla, who began to measure the accident zones, climbed onto the boat. The officers worked directly in the zone and on the submarine itself, there were no sailors of military service. The work ended on August 23 in 16ch.00 min. Every day the group that had time to work in the emergency zone went to the hospital for testing. The next day a new group arrived on the boat. Thus, around 150 people passed through the emergency zone. Both the builders and the personnel of the fleet chemical protection regiment worked at the plant and in the village.

In the period of the struggle with the accident, the leadership of the fleet established a complete information blockade. The plant was quickly cordoned off, increased access control. In the evening, disconnected the village. Skotovo-22 with the outside world. The population of the village was not informed about the accident and its consequences, as a result of which the population was exposed to the unnecessary risk of receiving radiation exposure, which could have been avoided. 23 in August at 16.00 in tow K-431 was transferred to Pavlovsky Bay, the former main base of the 4 fleet. There she stood up to the 2010 of the year, after which she was sent for recycling to the ZVEZD DVZ.



The investigation of the catastrophe was carried out by a commission led by Admiral Novikov, the head of the naval technical unit of the Navy. The Commission concluded that the cause of the tragedy was a violation of the governing documents and the lack of proper control over the congestion. And then the Pacific "Chernobyl" carefully classified. The investigation materials were securely hidden in the archive.

To eliminate the consequences of the accident, the territory contaminated with radionuclides was divided into two zones: the emergency zone itself and the radioactive fallout zone. The first included the territory of the enterprise and the water area of ​​the bay with a radius of 170 meters around the submarine. The second zone covered the territory of the plant, the adjacent hills of the onshore technical base, located in the bay Sysoev. In this zone, not only military but also civilians were involved in eliminating the consequences.

In total, about 2 thousand people were attracted to eliminate the consequences of the accident. The individual dose of radiation basically did not exceed 5 rem, but 290 people received increased exposure. Acute radiation sickness developed in 7 people, radiation reaction was observed in 39 people. In total, more than 950 people were found affected.

Through 5-7 months, the radiation situation was normalized throughout the plant. Through the month of 2 after the accident, the radionuclide content in seawater decreased to the original background values. The results of field observations and numerous environmental surveys indicate that the 1985 accident of the K-431 submarine in Chazhma Bay did not have a measurable radiation impact on Vladivostok, its beach zone and the village of Shkottovo-22. The residual long-acting radioactive contamination of the area and bottom sediments in the area of ​​Chazhma Bay is strongly localized and cannot lead to undesirable consequences. The concentration of radionuclides in the sea water of Chazhma Bay, the western passage of the Strelok Bay and the eastern part of the Ussuri Bay is at the level of background values ​​characteristic of other regions of the Pacific Coast.



Sources:
Cherkashin N. Chazhma: How a Nuclear Reactor Blasted // Emergencies in the Soviet Navy. M .: Veche, 2010, S. 52-56.
Osipenko L., et al. On the eve of Chernobyl, Chazhma was in the fleet // Atomic Underwater Epic. Feats, failures, catastrophes. M .: Borges, 1994. C. 282-286.
Khramtsov V. Why nuclear disaster in Primorye did not warn Chernobyl // Typhoon. No. 16. C.38-41.
Mityunin, A. Black story about the nuclear submarine K-431. Errors of a nuclear accident a year later repeated Chernobyl // Novaya Gazeta. 22 April 2005
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  1. Condor-a
    Condor-a 17 December 2015 06: 30 New
    -9

    According to a number of experts, the cause of the nuclear accident in Primorye, which later received the name of Chazhminskaya, and the subsequent Chernobyl accident, is the same: the specialists have violated instructions, having got used to the atom and considered that it is acceptable to communicate with you. However, any violation of the instructions leads to unexpected chance, which can be fatal. This is exactly what happened in Chazhma bay. Unfortunately, they tried to hide this state of emergency not only from the general public, but also from specialists, which is completely unforgivable. Many nuclear scientists believe that if truthful and detailed reports were made to the government or at least to the USSR Minister of Defense after the Chazhma accident, appropriate measures would be taken to inspect all nuclear facilities in the country, and a second, more formidable Chernobyl disaster would not have happened. And what is really quite surprising, even today, thirty years later, the nuclear accident in Chazhma is still little known.

    These are not the same "specialists" who blocked SCRAM for the first, small the explosion on RBMK-1000? From 200 kg of RDX, as it is, they are not included in the instructions for their use. From the long-standing disaster on the Lighthouse, why not report? A mastshab with accidents on a nuclear submarine is somehow not comparable.
    1. Condor-a
      Condor-a 17 December 2015 09: 41 New
      -4
      someone already put a minus, the Norwegians recorded two explosions and not one
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 17 December 2015 10: 29 New
        +1
        Conspiracy and "other earthquakes under the reactor of the 4th block" leave the yellow press, please ...
        1. Condor-a
          Condor-a 17 December 2015 10: 50 New
          -5
          ... It was you? laughing And the one who put a minus - too?
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 17 December 2015 10: 55 New
            +2
            Are you worried about cons? Want to talk about it?
            1. Condor-a
              Condor-a 17 December 2015 11: 07 New
              -1
              No, the fact that you are only one "burned" here ... Where do the rest hang out?
              1. vadimtt
                vadimtt 17 December 2015 11: 17 New
                0
                I was always interested when people write frank nonsense, do they even know a little about it? Or should they read the primary sources? Or education does not allow them to do this?
                1. Condor-a
                  Condor-a 17 December 2015 11: 22 New
                  0
                  Failure training manuals? Look at another page ... Better change your nickname again.
                  1. vadimtt
                    vadimtt 17 December 2015 11: 24 New
                    0
                    Clinic, go to ignore ...
                  2. Condor-a
                    Condor-a 17 December 2015 11: 32 New
                    -1
                    ... and do not forget to get vaccinated.
                  3. Condor-a
                    Condor-a 17 December 2015 11: 33 New
                    -2
                    Still worried? Tell others too laughing
        2. Cyclone
          Cyclone 18 December 2015 08: 52 New
          0
          Not under and above. In the case of the A321 in the Sinai, too?
        3. Loreal
          Loreal 21 December 2015 10: 22 New
          0
          Couldn't both reactors just explode? Foreign objects on the wheel rim just do not fall and they are different.
      2. Samy
        Samy 17 December 2015 16: 29 New
        +6
        Norwegians recorded two explosions in Primorye? For 12 thousand, approximately, km? But the Japanese didn’t know ...
        1. Condor-a
          Condor-a 17 December 2015 16: 51 New
          0
          They don’t even know that such a Norway exists - too far from them ...
          It was about RBMK-1000, not about K-431
      3. python2a
        python2a 17 December 2015 18: 35 New
        0
        At HOUR there were four releases and the radioactive contamination of the area was radial.
        1. Condor-a
          Condor-a 17 December 2015 18: 50 New
          -1
          The reactor cannot simply explode on its own, in an extreme case, there will be bleeding of the coolant without the expansion of the elements of the active zone.
  2. Raider
    Raider 17 December 2015 06: 37 New
    20
    I am reading for the first time. An interesting article - "+". The author is great.
    1. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 20 December 2015 16: 14 New
      0
      This is my first time reading. :-) But I know by hearsay because lived in the village. Danube before 1997 :-)
  3. Amurets
    Amurets 17 December 2015 07: 27 New
    +4
    I read about the accident before. In my opinion, there was something on the site "Assault on the Depth." But this is the first time I see photographs. I did not come across before.
  4. pentergak
    pentergak 17 December 2015 07: 51 New
    56
    I read with interest and agreed with everything until I came to the memories of Khramtsov. Achinea is hopeless. He alone saved the boat. Well it is necessary to write this .. "Around is empty, not a soul." Immediately after the explosion, the crew of the K-431 organized primary measures to combat the damage to the ldock. I read the memoirs of this so-called admiral. Ascribing to himself the laurels of the only savior, he did not say a word about how the emergency work was actually organized to decontaminate the boat. In every line of his memoirs, there is a terrible resentment for the fact that after the accident he was removed from the post of commander of the 4th fleet of the Pacific Fleet. How is it, I saved the boat, and you dismissed me from my post. I am writing about this because I myself was a participant in the liquidation of the accident and saw the whole mess in the organization of work and the attitude towards people. If anyone is interested, go to the site avtonomka.org... Find the section "Memories", Captain 3rd Rank Gurin Gennady Merkurievich.
    1. kote119
      kote119 17 December 2015 08: 29 New
      0
      and what kind of damage on the superstructure in front of the fence?
    2. python2a
      python2a 17 December 2015 18: 40 New
      +3
      I agree the mess in the fleet was still one. I participated in the liquidation of the accident at K219 in Vedyaevo in 1989. Everything from the sailor to the head of the group went to our boat for inspection. Lived on the radioactive gulf for 2 weeks.
      1. Delta
        Delta 17 December 2015 23: 24 New
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        Quote: python2a
        I participated in the liquidation of the accident at K219 in Vedyaevo in 1989


        K-219 of which project?
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      3. Midshipman
        Midshipman 21 December 2015 08: 25 New
        0
        K-192 675 project
  5. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 17 December 2015 07: 56 New
    +4
    I didn’t know about the accident. Let this be the news. The author writes that much could have been different if it had not been for hiding this accident. Probably. Nothing has been written about the fate of those people. Almost 1000 people.
  6. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 17 December 2015 09: 14 New
    +8
    And then Chernobyl happened, and everyone forgot about this accident, except for the local residents. And they just fought the infection - in the adjacent areas they removed a layer of soil, which was taken out relatively close, the rest was fenced off with a thorn, hung "Carlsons", and voila, they reported upward about the next victory over the peaceful atom.
    1. Condor-a
      Condor-a 17 December 2015 09: 22 New
      -6
      Over the military and with the accident, it was not quite like that. More precisely, not at all like that.
  7. vadimtt
    vadimtt 17 December 2015 09: 47 New
    +3
    The declassification of this accident on the nuclear submarines would not affect the possibility of the Chernobyl accident. Absolutely different technologies. A more thorough analysis of the problems at the Leningrad NPP would help here, where the end effects in calculating the OZR led to less serious consequences.

    PS: "SCRAM the first, small explosion on RBMK-1000" what is this nonsense?
  8. kote119
    kote119 17 December 2015 10: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: vadimtt
    The reactor cover weighing 12 tons was thrown vertically up to a height of more than a kilometer

    the author clearly got excited with the height and which the lid tossed up
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 17 December 2015 10: 10 New
      +1
      Yes, but the quote is not mine. smile
      1. kote119
        kote119 17 December 2015 10: 25 New
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        sorry sorry - quote from an article, I accidentally pressed a button on your post smile
    2. aviator1913
      aviator1913 17 December 2015 10: 24 New
      10
      Working in the oil industry, there was an explosion of oil tanks in the central part of Russia, where the tank flew up to 400 meters when it exploded. So the author probably went too far, but she flew up apparently still very much.

      pump the radioactive liquid into a dedicated technical tanker, dilute it with ordinary seawater to an "acceptable level", and then pour the resulting mixture into the ocean (in the areas of special test sites). Later, the solid radioactive waste was disposed of in the same way. The protests of Japan and South Korea, and sometimes the pursuit of Soviet technical tankers by the warships of these countries, did not change the situation.


      Damn, I would probably have pursued such tankers in the place of the Japanese and Koreans, if such a slush were poured at my side. (I understand that the Americans also did this, which does not reduce the crime itself).
    3. kuz363
      kuz363 20 July 2019 14: 21 New
      0
      Well, yes, it’s strange. that after this cap fell exactly on the reactor. This cannot be.
  9. qwert
    qwert 17 December 2015 10: 18 New
    +8
    He served in Vladivostok two years after the accident. I have not heard a word about her, neither from sailors nor from submarine officers. I was in the village of Shkottovo, probably next to Shkottovo-22, and also silence. Secrecy seemed serious.

    From an interview with the captain of the first rank, retired Lukyan Fedchik from Lutsk, given to the newspaper "Facts": "I was the commander of this submarine. My first reaction to the news is simply impossible, because no serious work was planned on board!
    The work should be organized in the same way as when handling the atomic bomb — threefold control over the execution of each of the operations. But the reactor cover was removed with gross violations of the rules. Perhaps everything would have worked out, but a military boat flew into the bay just at that time. A wave arose, a special vessel with a crane lifting the reactor lid rocked on it. According to one version, this was, so to speak, the last push - and an uncontrolled chain reaction began, an explosion occurred. Eyewitnesses claim that 12 tons reactor cover thrown to a height of more than a kilometer! Nuclear fuel flew out, infecting everything around with radiation. It’s good that it was fresh uranium, because the spent one emits much more x-rays.
    On the fifth day after the accident, I was called to a meeting of the commission to investigate the causes of the explosion. Thirty people sat in the hall — admirals, generals, civilian specialists. I directly said whom I consider guilty of what happened. By the way, I had to go into the hall in my socks - the dosimetrists demanded to take off my shoes, because there was a lot of radiation on it. 3You see, if the explosion of the nuclear reactor at K-431 had not been classified, there would probably have been no Chernobyl disaster. Nine months later, a similar event - the thermal explosion of the reactor - happened at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Scientists call the accident at K-431 a harbinger of Chernobyl."
    1. Condor-a
      Condor-a 17 December 2015 10: 27 New
      -3
      If on a nuclear submarine
      The transshipment house burned out without a trace, and the transshipment team also evaporated in this outbreak.

      then how do you know all this, who did what there and how was it? bully
      1. qwert
        qwert 17 December 2015 11: 27 New
        +5
        So after all, there are memories of the boat captain Lukyan Fedchik and Khramtsov, who was mentioned here, and probably someone else. This is where the details are usually learned from.
        This is normal when events are described.

        It is not normal when E. Radzinsky sometimes gives out like "The prince was left alone in the room and thought. It was at that moment that the thought came to him that boyar Rudetsky should be poisoned." This is where the question arises, how does Radzinsky know this, if the prince was alone in the room and thought, but did not write down and did not tell? But that's why he and Radzinsky lol
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 17 December 2015 11: 46 New
          +3
          And yet the lid of the ship's reactor (type VM-A) weighs 5 tons and not 12 and it flew far (to put it mildly) not 1000m up. Since the captain cannot make such mistakes, it is most likely that these are "creative" modifications of the interviewed journalist. So the article material is half true. smile Thanks for this to our reporters. smile Or maybe vulture bully
        2. Condor-a
          Condor-a 17 December 2015 12: 08 New
          -3
          Quote: qwert
          So after all, there are memories of the boat captain Lukyan Fedchik and Khramtsov, who was mentioned here, and probably someone else.

          They looked at the periscope or in the television camera, which also evaporated?
          The investigation will figure out whose ... and who Radzinsky is.
    2. kote119
      kote119 17 December 2015 10: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: qwert
      I was in the village of Shkottovo, probably near Shkottovo-22

      Shkotovo is correct, the distance between these settlements is about 100 km, another name is Shkotovo-22 - town. Danube
      1. Shpagolom
        Shpagolom 17 December 2015 16: 01 New
        +1
        ... That's right ... everything is clearly visible in the photo!)) Was in Tikhas in 1985, silence, people know something ... I heard, but there is no panic .... In the Danube there is no resettlement or resettlement was not there, a native person lived there for 5 years, either due to age, or due to ecology, health began to fail ...
      2. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 17 December 2015 19: 14 New
        +1
        In my opinion, there were about 25 "Shkotov" settlements, you can choose any.
        1. kote119
          kote119 17 December 2015 19: 33 New
          +1
          what do you mean by the expression - "you can choose any"?
  10. standing
    standing 17 December 2015 11: 47 New
    +5
    I served there, though a little earlier in 81-83. military unit 74112. Now this part is not, ruins, as well as half of the village. No, not a blast - "dirty" there. And the marauders do not care, they take everything apart little by little. We worked at the plant together with civilians, and when it slammed, the whole unit, about 500 people. seems to have been thrown into the embrasure. It was necessary to fill the compartment with concrete, collect radioactive "nishtyaks" along the shore, and a lot of things were needed. It was Soviet times and the guys completed the task without asking anything. What happened to them next, God knows. Most likely, they were commissioned with a bunch of nondisclosure agreements. By the way, mine ended about 12 years ago, if that ...
  11. Hydrograph
    Hydrograph 17 December 2015 12: 31 New
    +4
    He served 84-87 at KTOF in Vladivostok. Our accident knew about the accident. The task was to provide a search for the reactor cover. They found us without luck. Hello to all of the military unit 40087.
  12. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 17 December 2015 13: 04 New
    +3
    All one, gouging and impunity, then what now! And the trouble is not to wait long for the next case, since there is no inevitability of punishment, but it is full of switchmen who then work out their karma. But ordinary people die and suffer, innocently for someone’s handshaking and sloppiness!
    1. Condor-a
      Condor-a 17 December 2015 13: 26 New
      -1
      Switchmen, karmas, "cases" and all that mixed up in one continuous heap ... Well, yes, straight So much because of this very
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      handshaking and sloppiness
      innocent steam trains in the rail war went downhill. One solid ...
  13. qwert
    qwert 17 December 2015 15: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: Hydrograph
    He served 84-87 at KTOF in Vladivostok. Our accident knew about the accident. The task was to provide a search for the reactor cover. They found us without luck. Hello to all of the military unit 40087.

    Well, then from the military unit 40083 soldier
    But we have not a word about this at Sobol Bay in 1987.

    Quote: vadimtt
    And yet the cover of the ship's reactor (type VM-A) weighs 5 tons and not 12 and it flew far (to put it mildly) not 1000m up. Since the captain cannot make such mistakes, it is most likely that these are "creative" modifications of the interviewed journalist.

    be that as it may, if she blew up not only a light body but an internal one, and even under water. The height was clearly not three meters. But, of course, eyewitnesses could exaggerate, even without a journalist. I’m sure that they didn’t have time to take measurements using a laser rangefinder, so let’s leave it to the conscience of those very eyewitnesses.
    I read Khramovtsev. Well, there is some bias. But, no more than for example in the memoirs of Marshal Zhukov or A.S. Yakovleva. Subjectivity, it is characteristic of many authors of memoirs. But, at the same time, there is also plenty of information in them
    1. water
      water 17 December 2015 21: 13 New
      +3
      I find it difficult to say about the cause of damage to the light and durable hulls in the area of ​​the reactor compartment, but the reactor cover did not fall on the boat. She was found in the forest at a distance of several kilometers from the plant.
      1. Captain nemo
        Captain nemo 17 December 2015 22: 04 New
        0
        Quote: watermark
        but the reactor lid did not fall on the boat.

        Most likely, yes, she didn’t fall on the boat and she didn’t tear her hull, but the article says that she fell, and most likely what exactly is said in any written report about this incident, signed by any high-ranking officer the rank that for one reason or another rub the points to a superior officer.
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    2. Hydrograph
      Hydrograph 18 December 2015 13: 47 New
      0
      Although I am a long-standing military unit 40087 GS KTOF, the radio navigation support of the naval trawl forces.
  14. Captain nemo
    Captain nemo 17 December 2015 19: 12 New
    0
    The reactor cover weighing 12 tons was thrown vertically upwards to a height of more than a kilometer, then, having collapsed onto the reactor, fell down, tearing the vessel below the water level, which poured into the reactor compartment.

    With mathematics, I’m not very good, but I still want to shine in front of others, that I’m still not the most stupid.
    So the mass of the lid we know roofing felts 5 roofing felts 12 tons. And it falls from a height of 1 km all the time accelerating according to the law of acceleration of free fall. According to the idea, the Cover, together with the compensating grating and absorbers, should, due to imbalance, be deployed on the rib and crash into the reactor, possessing the accumulated kinetic energy during the entire flight with such force that it would easily cut the open reactor vessel in half and probably by 3 meters it would burrow into the ground under a submarine, most likely (my problems with mathematics) the submarine would not break in half, because the cover would go into the submarine like a knife in oil. Take now the most unlikely, the cap is hemispherical and rises to the top flies like a noticeable fairing around a space rocket, constantly slowing down to 1 km, it stops there and strictly symmetrically falls to the bottom through the parachute system, air resistance will have a counterforce to the force of acceleration of gravity but not so much , that would deprive the lid of acceleration. And in this form, it falls with parasitic accuracy onto the reactor, according to all the rules, this cover should have sunk the submarines at the same minute, but the displacement of the submarines keeps the boat (the submarine performed the role of a spring on the water) without harming its hull, here we have the reactor vessel takes all the power of a high-altitude impact of the lid upon itself, possibly with consequences and will bounce the lid (falling from such a height will they just absorb all the energy and just dump the lid as described in the article) again to the top but reaching a much lower height this time not high point and, it again begins to fall according to the law of acceleration of gravity, but substantially with a lower kinetic energy than the first time with the same mass. Here, most likely, it certainly deploys and it cuts through the submarine's hull. For cutting the body edge on a vskidka 5 tons, I think it will be enough and 10-30 meters in height. But still, the cover is 1 km long, it looks very unlikely.
  15. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 17 December 2015 19: 34 New
    +1
    I very much sympathize with the people who have suffered from the "peaceful atom", everyone who lived in such places.
    Maybe someone who condemns me, never wanted to watch and listen to Radzinsky with his manners. Moreover, he also tells us what people who lived in the distant past thought alone.
  16. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 17 December 2015 19: 39 New
    +3
    In the summer of that year, when I was still a schoolboy, I remember very well that we were whispering around and no one went to Shamara to rest ... well, and the enemy’s voices understood the case, they were saying something ...
  17. DRON
    DRON 17 December 2015 23: 23 New
    +1
    why not take all these operations and storage of radioactive waste to the extreme island of the Kuril ridge, I think the Japanese would have dropped all territorial issues by themselves ....
    1. Captain nemo
      Captain nemo 18 December 2015 00: 01 New
      +1
      It is better to leave the disputed territories as they are, otherwise they may ask for other islands in return for your spoiled ones, which is to the North of Hokaido.
    2. tao
      tao 18 December 2015 21: 46 New
      0
      Nature in the Kuril Islands is a pity.
  18. tao
    tao 17 December 2015 23: 27 New
    0
    That's where I got my dose. I did not know that this "clamshell" would live until 2010.
  19. standing
    standing 18 December 2015 06: 56 New
    0
    Well, after all, "phonil" is not weak. Here, with a regularly used boat, they don't know what to do. Usually, an energy compartment and two adjacent ones are cut out, they are brewed and such a "barrel" has been standing at the pier for decades. On the opposite side of the bay there is just such a storage base. But about the "dirty" pier was infa that towed 30 kilometers towards Nakhodka, but drowned near the coast in a quiet way.
  20. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 18 December 2015 08: 26 New
    +1
    We stood at the plant in the Japanese dock for repairs in 1989 in Chazhma (Temp settlement), the "norm" and then was exceeded by 40 = 100 times, about which we were warned daily by the head of chemistry. as regards the direct culprit of the accident, this is a graduate of the 1st faculty of VVMIOLU named after Dzerzhinsky, cap. 3 rank M. He walked in the morning with a stick in the Alexander Gardens in the year 1986. Walked - walked like that for six months and died of radiation sickness in the hospital of the Navy six months later, he was buried with all military honors at the Volkhov cemetery! We were told, “that when flushing the core, he confused ethyl alcohol with dichloroethane”? Nonsense, but everyone "believed" and even signed a nondisclosure agreement! Now a more believable version has finally been published! Thank you very much!
  21. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 18 December 2015 17: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: Captain Nemo
    The reactor cover weighing 12 tons was thrown vertically upwards to a height of more than a kilometer, then, having collapsed onto the reactor, fell down, tearing the vessel below the water level, which poured into the reactor compartment.

    With mathematics, I’m not very good, but I still want to shine in front of others, that I’m still not the most stupid.
    So the mass of the lid we know roofing felts 5 roofing felts 12 tons. And it falls from a height of 1 km all the time accelerating according to the law of acceleration of free fall. According to the idea, the Cover, together with the compensating grating and absorbers, should, due to imbalance, be deployed on the rib and crash into the reactor, possessing the accumulated kinetic energy during the entire flight with such force that it would easily cut the open reactor vessel in half and probably by 3 meters it would burrow into the ground under a submarine, most likely (my problems with mathematics) the submarine would not break in half, because the cover would go into the submarine like a knife in oil. Take now the most unlikely, the cap is hemispherical and rises to the top flies like a noticeable fairing around a space rocket, constantly slowing down to 1 km, it stops there and strictly symmetrically falls to the bottom through the parachute system, air resistance will have a counterforce to the force of acceleration of gravity but not so much , that would deprive the lid of acceleration. And in this form, it falls with parasitic accuracy onto the reactor, according to all the rules, this cover should have sunk the submarines at the same minute, but the displacement of the submarines keeps the boat (the submarine performed the role of a spring on the water) without harming its hull, here we have the reactor vessel takes all the power of a high-altitude impact of the lid upon itself, possibly with consequences and will bounce the lid (falling from such a height will they just absorb all the energy and just dump the lid as described in the article) again to the top but reaching a much lower height this time not high point and, it again begins to fall according to the law of acceleration of gravity, but substantially with a lower kinetic energy than the first time with the same mass. Here, most likely, it certainly deploys and it cuts through the submarine's hull. For cutting the body edge on a vskidka 5 tons, I think it will be enough and 10-30 meters in height. But still, the cover is 1 km long, it looks very unlikely.

    It's funny, but where is the thickness of the lightweight housing, auxiliary systems, durable housing, housing material?
  22. pentergak
    pentergak 20 December 2015 11: 49 New
    0
    If I involuntarily offended someone, I apologize, I set out my feelings at that time. Participation in the liquidation of the accident at the K-431 nuclear submarine left an indelible mark on my soul. Many of the K-431 crew members have already gone to another world, having received an exorbitant dose of radiation. Reconciling with this is very difficult.
  23. pacific
    pacific 2 March 2016 01: 59 New
    +1
    The aircraft carrier "Minsk" was in the dock during the explosion. According to eyewitnesses, the ship almost jumped on the cages exposed under the bottom. Such was the force of the explosion.
    I myself was then at the 1st berth and was waiting for the boat to the factory. When I heard the explosion, it seemed that the main battery had been fired from the Senyavin.
    The boats were then canceled and launched only after 2 days.
    The crews of the TAKR "Minsk" and the emerging EM "Boevoy" (the emerging crew of the "Boevoy" was stationed on the "Minsk") also actively participated in eliminating the consequences of the accident. Basically, they cleaned up the territory. In fact, they scrubbed everything to the last chip and fallen leaf, leaving almost bare ground.
    From protection - only tops, even respirators were not given to anyone.
    Not only that, they also conducted combat training on the territory of the plant - just past the pier with an emergency boat. No dosimeters were issued to anyone, although they did not conceal that the boat had an accident in the reactor compartment.
    But which of us 18-20 year olds then understood - what, what are we doing for and what are the possible consequences?
    However, we were lucky then - from my colleagues I know only one who grabbed a serious dose.

    But about whom no one ever remembered - this is a factory VOKhRa: mostly young and not very women. After all, they both sat in their booths at the checkpoint of the plant, and remained there until the end of the shift. What dose they received - no one knows. But the main spot of radiation fell just on the hillside where these checkpoints were.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 12 October 2016 23: 15 New
      +1
      People are rubbish for any power. For she is power from God!
      1. Protos
        Protos 29 November 2016 18: 50 New
        0
        If you talk like that, then you can not be born, because the lack of power is CHAOS!