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Bochkarev: prototypes of "Typhoonyonok" machines will begin to enter the troops in 2016 g

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Prototypes of small-sized armored vehicles "Typhoonyon", intended for paratroopers, will go to the troops next year, reports TASS Post deputy chairman of the military-industrial complex Oleg Bochkareva.


Bochkarev: prototypes of "Typhoonyonok" machines will begin to enter the troops in 2016 g


“Typhoon” has not yet come to the Armed Forces. In 2016, the first prototypes of the machine will come to the troops, their testing and testing will begin, ”said Bochkarev on Echo of Moscow.

He noted that the “Typhoon” is lighter and smaller than the “Tiger” armored car and is intended for landing. ”

According to him, "Typhoonian" and "Tigre" "laid different principles of anti-mine and anti-bullet resistance." “The Typhoonian has other chassis and wheels, everything else,” said Bochkarev.

This machine was created under the conditions of sanctions, so "the designers relied on the conditions of domestic industry," he added.
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Press Service of the Southern Military District
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 15 December 2015 16: 54 New
    +3
    Nice machine turned out. Will there be a civilian option? So that no reservation.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 15 December 2015 16: 58 New
      +3
      I think it will not. Not assembly line and the price tag is not civil
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 December 2015 16: 59 New
        +4
        That's what the paratrooper needs, 3 “typhoon” to ride or 1 bmd-4 to fight?
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 15 December 2015 17: 10 New
          10
          Quote: marlin1203
          That's what the paratrooper needs, 3 “typhoon” to ride or 1 bmd-4 to fight?


          Well, this is according to the situation ... sometimes the cubs are in the subject ... the name only doesn’t fit my soul ... typhoon ... well, they would have called Wind or Cyclone
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 15 December 2015 17: 32 New
            +8
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: marlin1203
            That's what the paratrooper needs, 3 “typhoon” to ride or 1 bmd-4 to fight?


            Well, this is according to the situation ... sometimes the cubs are in the subject ... the name only doesn’t fit my soul ... typhoon ... well, they would have called Wind or Cyclone


            Armeec2 in vain minus laughing . The shisharik was also originally developed for the Airborne Forces with an eye on landing. As a result, we got the whole line and the gun tractor and the KShM, not to mention special vehicles ... laughing
            1. gjv
              gjv 15 December 2015 19: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              and gun tractor

              Belarusians are developing a truck.
              Listen to the sound of this beast, the torque is 2795 Newtons meters, your maaat is ...




              A special heavy all-wheel drive chassis with a 12x12 wheel arrangement is supposedly (as yet) designed as a base for transporting intercontinental-range missiles.
              1. Konstantin Yu
                Konstantin Yu 16 December 2015 07: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: gjv
                Quote: vorobey
                and gun tractor

                Belarusians are developing a truck.
                [/ Center]
                presumably (yet) developed as a base for transporting intercontinental-range missiles. [/ i] [/ center]

                Do Belarusians have intercontinental missiles? Why did our Kurgan plant collapse? On the KZKT tractors were even more serious ... The Old Man will say again: ".. Russia owes nothing." And it will be, as always, speculating in your "friendship" ... You need to raise your plants and developments. Hi Rogozin.
          2. Down House
            Down House 15 December 2015 18: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            Well, they would have called Wind or Cyclone

            Then the "breeze" since the car is "light" laughing
          3. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 15 December 2015 22: 50 New
            0
            Well, it's like Pinocchio. The name is funny, but the application ... !!!
          4. Olfred
            Olfred 15 December 2015 22: 59 New
            0
            Yes, no, the name is just right! affectionate something ... probably that would be misleading) not for nothing that we have "flower" artillery))) hi
        2. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 15 December 2015 17: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: marlin1203
          That's what the paratrooper needs, 3 “typhoon” to ride or 1 bmd-4 to fight?


          Mdya, the postulate is from the march and after deployment immediately in the battle, it seems to be difficult on it! And to order spare parts from overseas by AVITO? negative
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 15 December 2015 17: 29 New
            +7
            Well, a good "machine" .. The main thing to check in real action .. And there you can judge!
          2. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 15 December 2015 17: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Major Yurik
            And to order spare parts from overseas by AVITO?

            On the "Aliexpress". Anyway, most of the spare parts of Western brands, but Chinese-made.
            Actually, this is not a battlefield machine. Unless you consider it as a leading edge transporter (floating LuAZs in SA remember?)
            But for peacekeeping operations - the most, in my opinion ..
          3. Mitek
            Mitek 15 December 2015 17: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Major Yurik
            Quote: marlin1203
            That's what the paratrooper needs, 3 “typhoon” to ride or 1 bmd-4 to fight?


            Mdya, the postulate is from the march and after deployment immediately in the battle, it seems to be difficult on it! And to order spare parts from overseas by AVITO? negative

            You should at least read the article.
            "This machine was already created under the conditions of sanctions, so" the designers relied on the conditions of domestic industry "(c)
            Of course, maybe you know more, but everything seems to be ours.
          4. wagner72
            wagner72 15 December 2015 18: 13 New
            +3
            Domestic parts, developed after the imposition of sanctions. Tell me how to change the flag, I'm from the Crimea, Zhovtoblakytny very annoying
            1. common man
              common man 15 December 2015 18: 28 New
              0
              Quote: wagner72
              Tell me how to change the flag

              “Information clarification. Where did the USSR flag disappear and what to do about it?” - everything is explained here.
            2. serezhasoldatow
              serezhasoldatow 15 December 2015 22: 53 New
              0
              Recently, admins wrote about this, look. Something in the title about the USSR flag.
            3. Konstantin Yu
              Konstantin Yu 16 December 2015 09: 17 New
              0
              ... Annoying, not the right word: pi pi pi .. Mass trend))) Hello Crimea !!
        3. Vvp
          Vvp 15 December 2015 21: 02 New
          +4
          Our company, together with Kamaz, began working on Typhoon under Serdyukov in 2009, but then everything went out there.
          This is how to compare oranges and apples. The purpose of one and the other machine is different. As you rightly noted, BMD-4 is for fighting, and Typhunyonok is for more mobile transportation, transportation of personnel, small cargoes, escort of convoys.
          I am very glad that after all the project was realized!
    2. Askin
      Askin 15 December 2015 17: 49 New
      -1
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Nice machine turned out. Will there be a civilian option? So that no reservation.

      a strong lobby among the Tatars!
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 15 December 2015 18: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      . Will there be a civilian option? So that no reservation.

      Civil version ...laughing Here UAZ "Patriot" costs from 729000 to 1000000 rubles. And such a "Tafunenok" will cost a million 2-2,5 ...
    4. Sweles
      Sweles 15 December 2015 19: 02 New
      0
      just not a typhoon, not seriously like that, you have to call the car, like something else ...
    5. Sweles
      Sweles 15 December 2015 19: 20 New
      +3
      "The main thing is that the equipment was ours," says the commander, but
      Typhoon's engine carries the American brand Cummins. We have an eternal problem with the engines, it’s not without reason that many sparks were put on many cars, it wasn’t from a good life, but there was simply nothing to put, for an example, see “The Best Light Tank of the Second World War T-70” or BTR 60 or 70, for the last thirty years, not a single engine plant has been built.
      The “automatic” box is also American, Allison, there are generally problems here, we don’t take the VAZavsky automatic machine into account, the most massive “Soviet” automatic machine was used on the LiAZ-677 bus with the nickname “cattle truck”.
      Independent suspension bridges - Timoney from Ireland, which can be seen with the naked eye on the inscriptions on the hub caps
      Supplier of expensive armor (aluminum on the outside, ceramic underneath) - Plasan Sasa from Israel
      on the belts of "mine" armchairs - the emblem of the English company Securon
      tires - Michelin
      Headlights - Hella ...
      http://toparmy.ru/rossijskaya-armiya/novoe-rossijskoe-vooruzhenie/kamaz-53949-ta

      jfunenok-foto.html
      in short, they lie brazenly in the eyes, KAMAZ riveted the case and can’t do anything else.
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  2. Temples
    Temples 15 December 2015 16: 55 New
    +4
    And the civilian version needs to be done.
    For fishing and hunting.
    And so, lovers ride through the mud.
    Nice turned out.
    1. Rossiyanin
      Rossiyanin 15 December 2015 17: 02 New
      0
      And it seems quite suitable for the city.
      1. rustemkm
        rustemkm 15 December 2015 17: 07 New
        +2
        Well, yes, so as not to stand in traffic jams))
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 15 December 2015 17: 12 New
          0
          So as not to stand in traffic jams, an APC is needed smile
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  4. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 15 December 2015 16: 58 New
    +9
    The engine "Typhoon" - the American brand Cummins. automatic box - also American, Allison, independent suspension bridges - Timoney from Ireland. The supplier of armor is Plasan Sasa from Israel, on the straps of mine seats - the emblems of the English company Securon, tires - Michelin, headlights - Hella.
    1. Throw
      Throw 15 December 2015 16: 59 New
      +4
      Hmm ... Full .. prototype .. negative

      In general, what are you talking about with KAMAZ when you designed it, about kickbacks?
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 15 December 2015 17: 13 New
      +5
      Well, just recently, there was an article on the VO that the fate of the “typhoon” is under a very big question because of the large number of foreign components, and then it suddenly comes up. that it was already being developed under conditions of import substitution ...
      A strange picture emerges - either someone provides false information, or in an emergency they replaced all foreign components with domestic ones.
      I want to believe in the second option ...
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 15 December 2015 17: 19 New
      +4
      As for the engine: "The main production of these world-famous motors is in China, and the Russian-Chinese Chamber of Commerce supplies them and spare parts." So it’s not in the United States that sanctions are also taken. I didn’t find Allison about automatic transmission, but I think it’s not so simple there either wink What remains of the essential, composite armor and bridges?
      1. Coconut Tima
        Coconut Tima 15 December 2015 17: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        About the engine:

        The KamAZ automobile concern signed a contract with an American company, having the opportunity to assemble Cummins engines in its own factories. Now, under the hood of each new KamAZ, the Cummins engine is working!
  5. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 15 December 2015 16: 59 New
    +1
    The engine "Typhoon" - the American brand Cummins. automatic box - also American, Allison, independent suspension bridges - Timoney from Ireland. The supplier of armor is Plasan Sasa from Israel, on the straps of mine seats - the emblems of the English company Securon, tires - Michelin, headlights - Hella.

    There was information that he could not become operational due to sanctions, now it is clear why.
    KAMAZ-53949 "Typhoon". The machine is the younger brother of the Typhoon armored vehicles, which are in service with the special forces of the Southern Military District. On the armored car mounted combined protection of ceramic armor, under which is armored steel. KAMAZ-53949 with a 4x4 wheel arrangement and a gross weight of more than 15 tons is capable of speeds of 105 km / h. "Typhoon" can be used to guard and escort convoys, sanitary transportation, engineering, radiation, chemical and biological reconnaissance. In addition, it can be used as a reconnaissance and command post vehicle, a fire support vehicle.

    Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/kamaz-53949/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko

    It would be interesting, about booking in more detail and TTX.
  6. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 15 December 2015 17: 00 New
    +2
    I wanted to spit on Humvee.
  7. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 15 December 2015 17: 01 New
    +4
    This version of the Typhoon is smaller than the Tiger. Seriously)))
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 December 2015 17: 10 New
    +3
    In the past and especially this year, many new Russian-made special vehicles were released. It is very interesting to observe this. On the basis of GAZ 66, you can still collect a lot of interesting things. Let's see how this industry will develop further.
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  11. mitrich
    mitrich 15 December 2015 17: 55 New
    +5
    Well, what for such a range of armored vehicles to us? Tiger, Lynx, this is a miracle, and more recently, the article was in VO about shishig with an incomprehensible cobald on the hood. Amers, with their printing press, have even less. And besides, the domestic here is 10 percent, maximum.
    Nowhere to invest more money? There are no shock UAVs, but here the menagerie is bred.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 15 December 2015 18: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: mitrich
      Well, what for such a range of armored vehicles to us? Tiger, Lynx, this is a miracle, and more recently, the article was in VO about shishig with an incomprehensible cobald on the hood. Amers, with their printing press, have even less. And besides, the domestic here is 10 percent, maximum.

      Maybe you’re right, but it’s enough to ride our Army on UAZs, etc. .... From all this spectrum, I hope they will find a middle ground! They’ll check in battle ...
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 15 December 2015 18: 46 New
        +1
        UAZ in the army is a commanders' machine from the level of the battalion commander and higher, plus a loaf in medrot and that's all. Nobody rides on them, then. I can’t imagine a small MPAP in our army, only for specialists if. Our fighters, if they mix up, then from the squad and higher - and here we need a full-fledged Typhoon or a normal armored personnel carrier.
    2. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 16 December 2015 09: 24 New
      0
      .. The keyword "Bred" .. do, learn to do, .. then learn, that is, they will raise a school of engineers .. and the military thought will not dry out and will go into mass and quality throughout engineering and not only ..
  12. horoh
    horoh 15 December 2015 18: 26 New
    +1
    Damn, it would be a civilian option, I would take it as an alternative to my field as a second car.
  13. Down House
    Down House 15 December 2015 18: 29 New
    +2
    Something bothers me this picture - on the sides of the tanks request
  14. Rassamaha
    Rassamaha 15 December 2015 18: 36 New
    +2
    they will adequately represent the Russian army, look charismatic, memorable.
    I like good
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 December 2015 19: 09 New
    +1
    Recently, equipment has been made on civilian units, so sanctions are easier to circumvent. But seriously, on KAMAZ only from collect. Casting China, more accurate spare parts Western, fuel injection pumps, and American turbines. So think about whether it is easy for us to shut off oxygen, although you can always buy a finished product through China.
  16. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 15 December 2015 19: 24 New
    +3
    The main girl liked the machine!
  17. tomcat117
    tomcat117 15 December 2015 20: 39 New
    0
    I introduced the landing in it, grind the product a little and will fit together nicely.
  18. uragan114
    uragan114 15 December 2015 21: 32 New
    0
    But he somehow “crouches” on the rear axle. On new spring
  19. Lich
    Lich 16 December 2015 00: 14 New
    0
    Quote: vorobey

    Well, this is according to the situation ... sometimes the cubs are in the subject ... the name only doesn’t fit my soul ... typhoon ... well, they would have called Wind or Cyclone


    Cyclone Nah, somehow associated with a vacuum cleaner
  20. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 16 December 2015 00: 24 New
    0
    Externally, the car did not like. The same Wolf - looks much more harmonious. And if you also take into account a bunch of foreign components ... Nah, in short.
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 16 December 2015 05: 14 New
    0
    the good news is that it will come down for close combat intelligence and signalmen, but for successful landing and sabotage and a march of throws at the rear of the enemy I think ATVs are still preferable ...
  22. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 16 December 2015 09: 39 New
    0
    ..It is clear that the trouble is with our machine tool industry, with all the consequences .. We are not the only ones hooked on Chinese spare parts, the situation is the same in Israel ... However, the weak link. Hi Rogozin
  23. Thompson
    Thompson 16 December 2015 11: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Sveles
    "The main thing is that the equipment was ours," says the commander, but
    Typhoon's engine carries the American brand Cummins. We have an eternal problem with the engines, it’s not without reason that many sparks were put on many cars, it wasn’t from a good life, but there was simply nothing to put, for an example, see “The Best Light Tank of the Second World War T-70” or BTR 60 or 70, for the last thirty years, not a single engine plant has been built.
    The “automatic” box is also American, Allison, there are generally problems here, we don’t take the VAZavsky automatic machine into account, the most massive “Soviet” automatic machine was used on the LiAZ-677 bus with the nickname “cattle truck”.
    Independent suspension bridges - Timoney from Ireland, which can be seen with the naked eye on the inscriptions on the hub caps
    Supplier of expensive armor (aluminum on the outside, ceramic underneath) - Plasan Sasa from Israel
    on the belts of "mine" armchairs - the emblem of the English company Securon
    tires - Michelin
    Headlights - Hella ...
    http://toparmy.ru/rossijskaya-armiya/novoe-rossijskoe-vooruzhenie/kamaz-53949-ta


    jfunenok-foto.html
    in short, they lie brazenly in the eyes, KAMAZ riveted the case and can’t do anything else.

    I agree. As with racing KAMAZ, on which only the KAMAZ cab and emblem. Alas.