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Kerry flies to Moscow to invite Russia into the American coalition

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The head of American diplomacy, John Kerry, is once again heading for the Russian capital. This is Kerry’s second official visit to Russia in a little more than six months. Kerry intends to hold talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov and again to discuss the possibility of Russia joining the “American coalition”.


Kerry flies to Moscow to invite Russia into the American coalition


White House spokesman Josh Ernest said on the eve (quote RIA News):
I think the Secretary of State will have the opportunity to discuss Russia's participation (in the operation against DAISH) and to confirm our position that she (Russia) should join the international coalition.


At the same time, the Russian Foreign Ministry notes that the Russian Federation is concerned about the actions of the very American coalition in Syria, which over the past few days has already “missed” twice when attacking terrorists DAISH (ISIL) and hit the positions of the Syrian government army. The main Russian foreign affairs agency says that they are counting on a constructive dialogue with the US Secretary of State.

At the same time, Moscow’s concern is noted that the United States acts in Syria “not always observing international rules and regulations”.

Reported that after the talks of Sergey Lavrov and John Kerry, two diplomats intend to receive Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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  1. vsoltan
    vsoltan 15 December 2015 07: 06
    20
    Why not discuss? I think, and not only that ... it is likely that it will bring other issues with it ... in any case, diplomacy is better than war
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 15 December 2015 07: 15
      +9
      Quote: vsoltan
      I think, and not only that ...

      I think that it distracts attention from something more important.
      So, why not discuss why they are not bombing the oil pipelines, but civilians, water pipelines and the anti-terrorist army? And also why don't they "inhibit Erdik"?
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        1. theadenter
          theadenter 15 December 2015 07: 40
          +7
          and the fight against "international terrorism" is clearly not in the first place.

          The struggle for influence. Syria is very important strategically and geopolitically.
          Indirectly or indirectly, Russia is doing the right thing.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 15 December 2015 08: 17
            +3
            We know the conditions for Russia's entry into the American coalition - to remove Assad. What is behind this, we know too.
            And on the other hand, we now know how the American coalition - both ours and yours - is fighting in Syria.
            Therefore, God save the Russians from such a "two-handed" American coalition! And of course you can talk about the problems in Syria - to find out what the United States has in mind.
            1. cniza
              cniza 15 December 2015 08: 59
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              We know the conditions for Russia's entry into the American coalition - to remove Assad.


              They will repeat this mantra indefinitely, realizing that this is unacceptable for us, they will blame Russia for all troubles and problems.
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          2. hydrox
            hydrox 15 December 2015 08: 35
            +3
            Quote: theadenter
            Russia is doing the right thing.


            To Amer, our no-fly zone over Syria is a sickle near the brass eggs of the bullshit coalition: if Russia joins this futile and clownish coalition, it will open the sky for NATO planes, and the share of Western influence on the fate of the Syrian state will follow this.
            Syrians now desperately need to go out and gain a foothold along the border with Turkey - after that it will be possible for Russia to talk with Kerry.
          3. Patriot 1
            Patriot 1 15 December 2015 08: 48
            +6
            Why bother? ..... America and I have absolutely opposite goals. America is interested in the long-lasting existence of ISIS. Russia aims to quickly destroy terrorists .... What can be found common ground ??? I do not understand....
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 15 December 2015 09: 02
              +2
              Quote: Patriot 1
              Why bother? ..... America and I have absolutely opposite goals.


              Rightly noticed. Let the State Department chew its burgers, and we will add with our dumplings. IMHO, Kerry’s visit is the task of blowing fog and distracting the Russian Federation from active operations in the region of the Syrian-Turkish border and Raqqa. I hope our answers to the overseas guest will be specific in compliance with OUR interests.
              (cry.)
            2. fif21
              fif21 15 December 2015 10: 09
              0
              Quote: Patriot 1
              America and I have absolutely opposite goals.
              I’m still wondering whether "Kuska's mother" will fit into a standard container or not. what
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          4. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 15 December 2015 12: 45
            0
            Kerry flies to Moscow to invite Russia into the American coalition

            I doubt that this is so.
            They don’t need Russia in a coalition, they don’t need it at all.
            Rather, it flies to outline the zones of influence.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 15 December 2015 17: 03
              0
              Ramzaj99
              They don’t need Russia in a coalition, they don’t need it at all.
              Rather, it flies to outline the zones of influence.
              Not certainly in that way.
              To invite Russia into their American coalition in Syria - under their own Pentagon (!) Beginning and leadership - the Americans will definitely - and this "inviting" they already have on Duty, according to the principle "Water wears away a stone"! At the same time, the Amers will have the patience to hope that Russia suddenly “bursts out” someday and finally agrees “with a fool” or the venality of those in power (remember MS Gorbachev etc.) to join the NATO ranks under their Pentagon command - In other words, the Americans will always “catch” any “moment” when Russia “voluntarily” surrenders itself to “its mercy” to its worst enemy and, with its own hands (!), harnesses itself, together with other countries, to the so-called . "Dog" team of the Pentagon. Go to the Americans in full.
              But “delineate the zones of influence” right now - the United States, according to the plan, is really in the forefront in these negotiations!
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      2. Baloo
        Baloo 15 December 2015 10: 33
        0
        I think that it distracts attention from something more important.
        Provide information on excavators and bulldozers? laughing
      3. Oleg16661
        Oleg16661 15 December 2015 15: 38
        0
        He’s trying so hard to distract that he’s contradicting his president.
        I watched their press conference. Kerry said "we hope that the two powers will be able to come to an agreement," that is, which is unthinkable, he put Russia on a par with the United States. And it was said about the "world gas station" with the "torn to shreds economy". belay
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 15 December 2015 07: 22
      +1
      Quote: vsoltan
      I think, and not only that ...

      I think this is not at all. what
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 15 December 2015 07: 25
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        I think not at all

        What can they honestly offer? Likely again what meanness conceived. But Sergei Viktorovich, even before the start of negotiations, probably knows what he’s talking about and is ready to answer as it should wink
    3. SSR
      SSR 15 December 2015 07: 50
      +2
      Quote: vsoltan
      Why not discuss? I think, and not only that ... it is likely that it will bring other issues with it ... in any case, diplomacy is better than war

      Maybe he’ll openly call to bring down the old woman Europe))) otherwise they’ll do everything through the fourth hands and drive migrants from the near long paths to Europe)))
    4. Blondy
      Blondy 15 December 2015 08: 19
      +9
      From the point of view of international law, they urge us to refuse to provide military assistance at the official request of a legitimate government and to enter an illegal armed gang, which can easily be shot in the back. It turns out that we are offered to change the status of the sovereign power, the subject of international law on the status of the gangster six. It is not solid, either.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 15 December 2015 09: 27
        0
        Join as someone? They want to make us an errand boy again ?! No, gentlemen, the Washington hawks, we went through this, we know how such alliances end. Well, let not coalitions, but coalitions, what difference does it make - radish horseradish is not sweeter.
    5. Vend
      Vend 15 December 2015 09: 35
      +3
      Quote: vsoltan
      Why not discuss? I think, and not only that ... it is likely that it will bring other issues with it ... in any case, diplomacy is better than war

      It depends on what kind of diplomacy. The diplomacy of pressure and power is past Russia. Let someone else arrange such diplomacy. In general, something often.
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 December 2015 09: 42
      +2
      Tired of these convulsive throwing of the demobilized Washington administration.
    7. shooter18
      shooter18 15 December 2015 13: 36
      0
      We called them to our coalition, they flatly refused, now they’ve come up with something ... I’ll turn the twist on .. I want to))
    8. iouris
      iouris 15 December 2015 15: 23
      0
      I hope that I will not live to see the entry of the Russian Federation into a coalition with the United States. Has Nuland already scattered her cookies on Bolotnaya?
  2. SAM 5
    SAM 5 15 December 2015 07: 07
    +7
    she (Russia) must join the international coalition.

    Read - must obey.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 December 2015 07: 26
      +9
      Quote: SAM 5
      Read - must obey.

      Yeah. And to bomb what the states indicate as the main coordinator. And they do not represent themselves to others.
      That is, to bomb hospitals, excavators, power plants, along with all the wedding processions, and, first of all, government troops. Then the war will end quickly, only the result will be exactly the opposite of what we expected.
  3. avvg
    avvg 15 December 2015 07: 08
    12
    An American farce about the isolation of Russia, Kerry flies to Moscow to isolated Putin.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 15 December 2015 07: 30
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      farce about the isolation of Russia, Kerry flies to Moscow to isolated Putin.

      This speech has already been voiced yesterday on TV. However, repetition is the mother of learning.
    2. cap
      cap 15 December 2015 07: 38
      +1
      "Flies to Moscow more often than meets his wife" wassat
      Biden has already stated in Kiev. We are waiting for a statement from Kerry.
      HE "descended" to us outcast.
      Sick of hypocrisy, looking like rushing around, trying to put himself in charge.
      What prevents a monkey from taking it with itself. A Christmas tree on Tsvetnoy Boulevard. It’s just the time to speak. Of course, oil revenues are higher, but everything’s a penny in a family wassat .
  4. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 15 December 2015 07: 11
    -1
    Uh no guys we are not like that we are not from Leberast ...
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 December 2015 07: 13
    0
    Section of Syria + Izvarino
  6. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 15 December 2015 07: 13
    0
    It seems to me that this is not the main reason. Everyone understands perfectly well that there are no conditions for this. Not yet ... It's me just in case. Most likely, they will be persuaded not to cut the "Turks". Or whatever it is in chess.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 December 2015 07: 14
    +1
    Surrender flew? wassat
    So we don't take prisoners. We, in fact, do not need anything from them. Just sit quietly "behind a puddle" with your hegemony.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 15 December 2015 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Surrender flew?

      You think so? Is this after Turkey was pushed against us? Something tells me not just that all last week there were provocations from Turkey. I think it was arranged for the arrival, so we were more accommodating. And what will be decided there, but anything but the entry of us into the coalition.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 December 2015 07: 14
    +5
    You can’t join the coalition.
    For the understanding of who is friend and enemy is different.
    They have good Turkey, Assad is bad,
    with us it’s not at all like that.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 December 2015 07: 15
    +3
    And again, Kerry ...
    They want to eat fish, and .... sit down! fellow
  10. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 December 2015 07: 17
    +1
    "At the same time, Moscow's concern is noted that the United States is acting in Syria" not always observing international rules and norms. "

    Maybe it's time to call a spade a spade and express concern that the US NEVER abides by ANY international rules and regulations when these US standards are not satisfied.
  11. Flinky
    Flinky 15 December 2015 07: 19
    +2
    As he flies in, so he flies away ... Continue to crouch with his hegemony.
  12. Riv
    Riv 15 December 2015 07: 27
    0
    Carrie does not go in vain. Wherever he is marked, he will certainly throw the shit.
  13. Junior, I
    Junior, I 15 December 2015 07: 29
    0
    Let them ask under our leadership, otherwise they will have to get out again before the world.
    And at least they will save their face.
    1. DDR
      DDR 15 December 2015 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: Younger, I
      Let them ask under our leadership, otherwise they will have to get out again before the world.
      And at least they will save their face.

      They don’t have a face for a long time, only masks yes
  14. V.ic
    V.ic 15 December 2015 07: 31
    0
    Another "gess" was drawn. Rudy, open your face ...
  15. Tanker55
    Tanker55 15 December 2015 07: 32
    0
    Seems Russian citizenship wants to ask? But what about jumping into Ukhraina to gallop?
    I propose a counter statement: Maybe SESHA will work under the guidance of our Russian military? Learn to fight honestly! soldier
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 15 December 2015 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Tankman55
      Maybe SESHA will work under the guidance of our Russian military? Learn to fight honestly!

      But this = not necessary!
  16. asar
    asar 15 December 2015 07: 34
    +3
    Lavrov’s possible answer, without diplomatic frills - do not touch my toys, do not write in my pot!
    When the so-called. the "coalition" will stop bombing the government troops of Syria when they stop screaming - Assad must leave when they stop "feeding" the godesh, when ....!
    Then - why not talk, really ?!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 15 December 2015 08: 41
      +1
      So when we put at least S-300 in Deir-az-Zor and put at least a combined regiment of the air force there, then we can talk to Kerry, and after taking Racca it will be possible to hold him and at the door of day 3.
  17. taseka
    taseka 15 December 2015 07: 38
    15
    You states are slippery as a ruler, remove your sanctions from us, and then ask for a coalition !!! Your 2 standards have already got the world!
  18. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 15 December 2015 07: 41
    0
    It’s already clear that diplomats don’t agree on the plague. But negotiations need to be carried out, especially since he flew in. But at the same time, gentlemen, Kerry’s arrival in Russia means the Americans’ weakness on the Syrian issue.
  19. SAM 5
    SAM 5 15 December 2015 07: 48
    +1
    Harry all over harry this kerry.
  20. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 15 December 2015 07: 51
    +1
    The Yankees are preparing another dirty trick - do not go to a fortuneteller.
  21. Foxbed
    Foxbed 15 December 2015 07: 54
    +1
    I think this is directly related to the so-called. "Arab antiterrorist coalition". Under the guise of "good intentions" Assad wants to put the squeeze on. To plunder Syria. Next is Iran. He did not join the coalition. The war for energy is moving into the next stage. They want to show us where we belong and that EVERYTHING IS FINALLY DECIDED. The only thing I'm wondering is who is the last on the list of their geopolitical goals - us or China ...
  22. bad
    bad 15 December 2015 07: 58
    +6
    Reported that after the talks of Sergey Lavrov and John Kerry, two diplomats intend to receive Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    ... I do not envy this kerry .. VVP and Lavrov will both mock at one kerry .. laughing
  23. wandlitz
    wandlitz 15 December 2015 07: 58
    +1
    discuss the participation of Russia (in the operation against Daesh) and confirm our position that she (Russia) should join the international coalition.
    Yeah dreaming ...
    And if they are offered "Join us then, under our command ..."
    Refuse, how to give a drink.
  24. Proud.
    Proud. 15 December 2015 08: 22
    +1
    One of the alternative definitions of the term "Policy":
    Politics is the art of the permissible. History points to the manipulation and aggressiveness of the policies of many rulers. Politics is management, an instrument, and it must be distinguished from the goals and falsification (imitation) of politics.

    The Americans have long abandoned politics as an instrument. However, they, too, imitate less and less. Dictate. Dictate and blackmail, that’s what the Americans use.
  25. brasist
    brasist 15 December 2015 08: 28
    +1
    Kerry intends to negotiate with her Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov and again discuss the possibility of Russia joining the "American coalition."


    Such a (wisdom) could be thought of only in the United States, which means that being a member of the “American coalition” will give the Turks the opportunity to host Turks in Syria with impunity, in the end fulfilling America’s dream to destroy Assad.
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 15 December 2015 08: 34
    +5
    the Yankees have obvious inconsistencies in all respects, that's why they drive Kerry to Moscow, and note that we are not towards them, but they are towards us, so we are on the right track ...
  27. Dezinto
    Dezinto 15 December 2015 08: 50
    +3
    Look at your Russian colleagues ....- this is how you have to bomb the hospital, then the water supply, then the hospital again ... Join the coalition.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 15 December 2015 10: 34
      0
      this is how you have to bomb the hospital, then the water pipeline, then the hospital again ... Join the coalition.
      And so it is necessary to bomb excavators and bulbozers ... wassat
  28. polite people
    polite people 15 December 2015 08: 54
    +1
    Will not wait. soldier
  29. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 15 December 2015 09: 00
    0
    If you join, then America will join a coalition with Russia.
    Yes, they themselves understand this, and they want to join at the right time, when there is a turning point. After several decades, it again turns out that it was the United States that won the war in the Middle East (by analogy with World War 2).

    Creating a coalition is certainly necessary, but on our terms.
  30. 31rus
    31rus 15 December 2015 09: 00
    +2
    Dear, who did Kerry report to, why is he flying to Moscow? Or do we ourselves want such proposals to sound? Why pour water, because it’s clear that we are missing out on political initiative in Syria, they are trying to corner us more and more , here with regular horror stories Kerry and flies
  31. Romanenko
    Romanenko 15 December 2015 09: 03
    0
    Cunning @@ little guys these mattresses. They screwed up, screwed up, and now they want to wipe our country with our country. Well, let him first go to Assad and get an entrance ticket to the territory of Syria, and then we'll talk.
  32. tomcat117
    tomcat117 15 December 2015 09: 12
    +1
    There is an interest in the arrogant Saxons:
    -to drag Russia into its coalition and impose its leadership
    -to make Russia continue to bear the main burden especially in difficult and dangerous directions (as a by-product, repeat your coup: America won the war with Germany)
    -include their "representatives" in the headquarters structure and suck out all the
    -after the end of the operation, thank the coalition (Russia) and ask from Syria, thereby depriving it of its future expansion of bases and influence in the region
    Russia in Syria can only work in the coalition that has already formed with it (weak, good or bad, that's another question), but at the same time you cannot trust anyone. The East is a delicate matter, the priorities of the "allies" may change at any moment and then PSHYK.
    Naglosaksam (NA) no confidence. Worse than the enemy of the National Assembly can only be a friend of the National Assembly.
  33. veksha50
    veksha50 15 December 2015 09: 19
    +2
    No need to call us ...

    All these calls have only one purpose: somehow to subjugate Russia, somehow, in any way to tie her arms and legs ...

    These "coalitions" of 65 countries ...
    There is also Saudi Arabia yesterday announced the creation of an anti-Daesh "coalition" of 34 countries ...

    Total in total - 99 countries ... Tits-matitki, and how much does it get on the list ???

    In give ... The whole world "struggles" against ISIS-Daesh, and then what is Russia doing ???

    In my opinion, Russia should not be a member of any coalition. But - no one asks my opinion, so - just gave out kitchen pans ...
  34. Million
    Million 15 December 2015 09: 25
    +1
    Better America Comes into a Coalition with Russia
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 15 December 2015 10: 36
      +1
      Better America Comes into a Coalition with Russia

      Better let the FSA get away somewhere far away, so as not to get confused underfoot. Their goal is to preserve their piece of Syria with its bowels and pipelines, to preserve their moderate terrorists in order to seize Syria in an hour. angry
  35. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 15 December 2015 09: 31
    +3
    Quote: 31rus
    Why pour water, because it’s already clear that in Syria we are missing out on political initiative,

    Interestingly, from what did you conclude that the Russian Federation is losing political initiative in Syria?
    If we were to lose it (the initiative), then these "messengers of peace" would not run to the Kremlin like shuttle traders, but simply increased the pressure. It's not their style to negotiate with a losing opponent.
    Most likely, things are exactly the opposite, here they are trying to agree. They will frighten the aggravation of the situation in other areas in order to negotiate concessions in Syria. I think that ours, too, have calculated these moves ...
  36. ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 15 December 2015 09: 34
    0
    My opinion is that the possibility of Russia joining the "American coalition" is in principle impossible, since the goals of Russia and America are completely different and incompatible. Russia is fighting international terrorism in the person of ISIS, and the Anglo-Saxons have created ISIS, they are fighting against Daesh in the person of Bashar Assad.
  37. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 15 December 2015 09: 36
    0
    So there wasn’t enough "duct tape"? ;))
    Well, why not "talk", once asked!
    "Ask and it will be given to you!" Although...
    S.V. Lavrov would be enough for "communication with partners" ...
  38. twincam
    twincam 15 December 2015 09: 37
    +1
    Yes, no one will enter anywhere, this is not to go to the grandmother, and so clearly ....
  39. gg.na
    gg.na 15 December 2015 09: 49
    +2
    Why are they all coming to us ... belay We are not like shaking hands !!! laughingisolated !!! wassat So what do such hegemons need from us ?! Or are they all amuse themselves with hopes that RUSSIA will break down and Vladimir Vladimirovich will extend a hand of friendship to them ?! So we did not quarrel with them; it is there that they build a navel from themselves out of themselves! lol Oh well let them play to us not up to their imposed conditions and games. In general, they planned something dirty. And the trip of this carey, they want to seem to distract attention from this dirty trick! Okay, we'll wait and see!
  40. JonnyT
    JonnyT 15 December 2015 09: 49
    +1
    I wonder how many times Kerry will say that the Russian Federation should abandon Assad’s support ?????)))

    Kerry is traveling primarily to clarify the position of the Russian Federation and receive some kind of guarantees.
    In short, they started something. Apparently the offensive of the Islamists is not far off. because they squeezed out Islamists from Iraq
  41. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 15 December 2015 10: 04
    +1
    tricksters should be determined - either sanctions or a coalition
  42. Maksim
    Maksim 15 December 2015 10: 12
    -1
    It is interesting that this time Lavrov prepared, "Pobeda", potatoes, or the first copy. the book "D # bily bl #!"
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 15 December 2015 10: 37
      0
      Donkey ears or teddy dog’s foot? wink
  43. Turkir
    Turkir 15 December 2015 11: 15
    +2
    Kerry flies to Moscow to invite Russia into the American coalition

    on the overthrow of Assad.
  44. wow
    wow 15 December 2015 11: 35
    +1
    What can you talk about with this "horse muzzle" !?
  45. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 December 2015 12: 17
    0
    You can formulate very clear conditions under which Russia could join the coalition. For example, the President of Syria should be left alone until the elections, no bombing of the Syrian troops by mistake, for this cut off the Bosko immediately, all actions to work out points only after joint planning, etc. Make conditions under which the United States and its allies are unlikely to be satisfied.
  46. iouris
    iouris 15 December 2015 12: 25
    0
    Our coalition with Turkey and Qatar will look interesting ...
  47. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 15 December 2015 12: 34
    0
    I think the Secretary of State will have the opportunity to discuss Russia's participation (in the operation against Daesh) and confirm our position that she (Russia) should join the international coalition.

    whom should? What for should? Why should? request
    OH there completely beguiled shores? However, it is not surprising if Psaki threatened to send the Amer fleet to the coast of Belarus lol
    Zhdems fellow otherwise it was not enough to clean the kartoh to the people.
  48. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 15 December 2015 12: 47
    +1
    Will put up with the Turks. Wangyu disappearance from the air claims to Turkey and resentment against edorgan.
  49. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 15 December 2015 13: 54
    0
    It is rightly noted that Russia owes nothing to anyone, and even more so to the United States with its coalition! Reconciling us with the Turks is an empty matter, for the blood of our pilots shed by the Turks we will have to pay a very serious price! Now about the American Union or the so-called. "coalitions": the United States is a "miscarriage" of the Anglo-Saxon world and, like the progenitors, they have no "allies", but have their own interests! So to try to force Russia to comply with American interests in the BV, for which Mr. Kerry is going to Moscow, but it looks like he will receive, as the great schemer said, "ears from a dead donkey!" Trying to "strangle" Russia with sanctions and at the same time trying to get something out of it is a vain thing! Forgotten the Stars and Stripes about who they owe their freedom and independence from the British Empire!
  50. Finntroll
    Finntroll 15 December 2015 14: 34
    0
    In, in! The American coalition, it is like a party, and you can only enter it.