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SSA General: To improve the effectiveness of the KTO, the Russian Space Forces should cooperate with the FSA

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A man who calls himself the general of the “Free Syrian Army” (SSA), states that the interaction of the Russian Air Force with representatives of the Syrian government’s troops “does not lead to the proper result.” A “General” named Hossam al-Avak says that the effectiveness of the Russian operation aviation in Syria will increase significantly if Russia interacts with the FSA, and if it uses the coordinates provided by representatives of the FSA. It is reported by the international news agency. Sputnik.


At the same time, Hossam al-Awak argues that the representatives of the “Syrian Free Army” intend to provide the coordinates and other information about the ISAH (ISIL) militants in Syria that are known to them:

I speak as the head of the intelligence services of the Syrian free army - we have accurate information, documents, images, we can provide them to the Russians, so that their attacks on the DAISH (IG) are more effective. We really want to cooperate with the Russians in the fight against Daesh (IG), provided that the strikes will be applied to the IG.


SSA General: To improve the effectiveness of the KTO, the Russian Space Forces should cooperate with the FSA


If we are talking about such coordinates, which, in the fight against igilovtsy, are used by the crews of the American coalition planes in Syria, “inadvertently” missing the militants and then getting on the water pipes, then the positions of the SAR armed forces, then such cooperation with the SSA is definitely worth being wary of. Moreover, the question arises: why did not the "General SSA" have previously expressed a desire to cooperate with Russia to fight the fighters DAISH (ISIL)?
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  1. cniza
    cniza 14 December 2015 19: 39 New
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    We really want to cooperate with the Russians in the fight against Daesh (IS), provided that the attacks are delivered on the IS.


    Well, who is against it, work, but only through Assad’s army.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 14 December 2015 19: 42 New
      64
      What is this SSA in general? Who is her commander and who is the chief of staff? What territory does it control and where exactly? The answer is simple, it is NOTHING. Phantom. The SSA is a network structure, and its commander, General Avak, commands, at best, only his own wife. Syria's reality is stable gangs with real field commanders, of different numbers, of different ethno-religious composition and having different goals. Sometimes, when it suits them, they don’t call themselves “SSA teams”. But then they can just as easily be called the front of An-Nusra, the IG and any of the 40 gangs operating in the SAR. And when the next distribution of money and trunks, again become the SSA team. Ours needs to work exclusively with field commanders, to seek coordination of their actions with the regular army for their further integration into the government army. Those who do not want to simply extinguish without really understanding what this gang is called. For it is absolutely not important.
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 14 December 2015 19: 48 New
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        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        What is this SSA in general? Who is her commander and who is the chief of staff? What territory does it control and where exactly?

        Wow) In principle, with the same statement that “Russian videoconferencing should” could be made by Luke Skywalker laughing Why not? Personality of the same degree of reality)
        - - - - - - - - -
        Administration, please return a tick to those living in Crimea "I am from the Crimea" into the settings!
        And then under the replica of the Swedish flag ... well, uncomfortable somehow hi

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      3. atalef
        atalef 14 December 2015 19: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        What is this SSA in general? Who is her commander and who is the chief of staff? What territory does it control and where exactly? The answer is simple, it's NOTHING

        Oh well you
        At the moment, the head of the Supreme Military Council of the SSA is the former brigadier general of the Syrian armed forces, Salim Idris, but in fact the real command of the units is carried out by field commanders, so Idris is more a representative of the SSA than a military leader [4] [5].

        SSA has an umbrella structure and consists of small local units operating throughout Syria. The name “SSA” is often used as a generalization for the entire armed opposition to the Syrian government, but in reality it is a specific alliance of rebel groups [5]. The number is estimated from 30 to 50 thousand people [2]; according to the group’s own data, in June 2013 it numbers about 80 thousand militants [4].

        Most members of the SSA are Sunni Arabs, but it includes units formed from Kurds [6], Syrian Turkmen [7], Palestinians [8] [9], Libyans [10] and Druze [11]. The SSA also has militants from Lebanon, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and other countries [12].

        controls
        green is SSA
        1. 34 region
          34 region 14 December 2015 20: 17 New
          20
          Oh well. They control some territory. But the issue of food and weapons. Where does it all come from? Are they self-financing? Is there a production of weapons and products on their territory? Or are they getting paid? Who! Why are these issues always avoided?
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 December 2015 20: 23 New
            -22
            Quote: 34 region
            u well. They control some territory. But the issue of food and weapons. Where does it all come from?

            What does it mean where?
            And where in New Russia?
            In their case, this is the same Wind from the North laughing
            Quote: 34 region
            where do they get all this from? Are they self-financing? Is there a production of weapons and products on their territory?

            And then what about the VKS bombing all the time?
            Read the bulletins, there are only factories - hundreds of 3
            Quote: 34 region
            Or are they getting paid? Who! Why are these issues always avoided?

            It’s strange how you reached such epaulettes and didn’t understand anything from the articles of VO?
            1. 34 region
              34 region 14 December 2015 22: 44 New
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              Atalef. Do you want to say they buy weapons from neighbors? What kind of shisha? VKS bomb factories producing products for export? You get 5 points for humor. For trolling, you too 5. It would be very boring without you, and at least light the audience. For this, too, 5 points!
              1. Baikal
                Baikal 14 December 2015 23: 43 New
                12
                Gentlemen, if not difficult, pass atalefu hi from Baikal and ask him to please remove me from the black list ... It was so funny to pound on the silicate brick of the crying wall with this God's chosen pen laughing
                1. family
                  family tree 15 December 2015 00: 02 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Baikal
                  Gentlemen, if it’s not difficult, send atalef greetings from Baikal and ask him to please remove me from the black list ...

                  Sanya has been here since the thirteenth, only now, unlike you, he does not go down to humiliate an opponent, no, he can, of course, pin up, but who is stopping you from growing and learning? I don’t think that you are wearing it in black; rather, it simply ignores your impoliteness (nothing that I am so diplomatic?) Good luck! drinks
                  1. Baikal
                    Baikal 15 December 2015 01: 39 New
                    +3
                    Quote: perepilka
                    rather, just ignores your impoliteness

                    Believe me, I am very polite. Extremely polite drinks Good health!

                    Quote: Serhio
                    The Wailing Wall must be handled with care, after all, a shrine.

                    Miles sorry ... I will be akuratnenko wink
                    1. family
                      family tree 15 December 2015 03: 28 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Baikal
                      It was so funny to pound this divine selector on the silicate brick of the crying wall laughing

                      I believe you passionately!
                      It was so funny to knock with this God-chosen printer on silicate brick crying wall laughing

                      I'm generally gullible, because request Sometimes it happens repeat
                2. Serhio
                  Serhio 15 December 2015 01: 18 New
                  0
                  And for what merits did he delete you in an emergency? The Wailing Wall must be handled with care, after all, a shrine. smile
          2. kapitan92
            kapitan92 14 December 2015 22: 35 New
            +6
            These questions were answered by the former head of the Israeli secret service "Nativ" Jacob Kedmi, by the way, his interview is on YouTube. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, certainly covered by the States.
          3. tol100v
            tol100v 14 December 2015 23: 16 New
            +3
            Quote: 34 region
            Who?

            To the question of who? - the answer has long been known. SGA through the Saudis and Turkey, which quietly wants to become the "master of the sea." The IS (daish) and others, have nothing and will never have anything but the captured oil-bearing regions of Syria and Iran! The values ​​captured at the beginning of ISIS (gold and currency) have long been used up and, according to Eastern traditions, have long been divided (sawn). And since the "gold reserve of Nem", then soon there will be no one to fight. There will be some scumbags that you just need to burn out!
            1. 34 region
              34 region 14 December 2015 23: 32 New
              +3
              And before the war, these scumbags were simple peasants. But creating poverty there made them fight. Why can’t you build a peaceful life there? After all, the Union entered Europe did not destroy its inhabitants. But the West, carrying democracy destroys the population. And no matter where. In the Baltic states or Iraq. But destroys democratically, in various ways. And in economic and other ways. Although economic comes first. The rest is already a consequence of the first.
        2. Anisim1977
          Anisim1977 14 December 2015 20: 51 New
          +3
          Green is a desert or something. 70% of the territory of Syria is a desert and just 70% is not yet controlled by the Syrian army.
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 December 2015 20: 57 New
            +3
            Quote: Anisim1977
            Green is a desert or something.

            Desert in the east (where ISIS)
            And this is what the most densely populated areas of Syria
        3. Asadullah
          Asadullah 14 December 2015 21: 13 New
          +2
          SSA has an umbrella structure and consists of small local units operating throughout Syria.


          Yeah. In many places, it has a basis for the militia of local residents, which could be collected by the current ISIS commander or any other. The only question is personal accounts of whom the newcomers managed to kill. If they killed less than government troops, then this is the IG, if they killed more, then the SSA. But today it’s not up to sentiment, only unquestioned strength, and harsh actions against mercenaries. As you know, Assad has no captive mercenaries. And this is a definite sign, to the "moderate" citizens of Syria. In this case, their status is higher, even if they are against Assad. And when this “higher” means life, the first prerequisites for conversation are born.
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 December 2015 21: 32 New
            -6
            Quote: Asadullah
            Yeah. In many places, it has a basis for the militia of local residents, which could be collected by the current ISIS commander or any other. The question is only in personal accounts, whom the newcomers managed to kill.

            100%.
            Tribal relations.
            Quote: Asadullah
            But today it’s not up to sentiment, only unquestioned strength, and harsh actions against mercenaries. As you know, Assad has no captive mercenaries.

            in the Arab world they are not perceived as mercenaries.
            all Muslims are kind of like brothers
            Quote: Asadullah
            And this is a definite sign, to the "moderate" citizens of Syria.

            Syria will no longer lie under the Alawites
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah 14 December 2015 22: 27 New
              +7
              in the Arab world they are not perceived as mercenaries.
              all Muslims are kind of like brothers


              Like. Half-hearted. Or uterine. But most likely, summary. But there is something else, besides veneration of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, this is peace, bread and labor. You’ll hurt the “brotherly” feelings, cause the wise man regret, the fool the anger, but if you deprive at least one of the three components of life, make him act. So the Russian proverb is applicable here - yours is not mine, do not stand on the road.

              Syria will no longer lie under the Alawites


              With all due respect, you are laying Syria in a Procrustean bed hastily knocked together by Arab monarchs. Syria is primarily a secular state. Or Syria is secular, and the processes going on in it will be shades of democracy, or it is a conglomerate of Arab and Turkish Bantustans, constantly at war with each other, and in breaks looking for the extreme guilty. It is secularism that infuriates most Turks and Arabs. Even the leaders of the IS take this quite calmly. Secularism will rule the country not with dogma, but with the mind. Unfortunately, in Israel there are many who believe that Sunni dogma is a way to increase the security of Israel. This method has no reactionary limit, as in some Jewish religious towns, for driving a Shabbat by car, you can catch a stone in a lobovuha, only here you can’t get by with a stone. Already today, the influence of the Arabs on the US Congress is possible and more than the influence of Israel. And what will happen tomorrow if the Jews themselves also support (even passively) the idea of ​​Sunni dogma, for a subsequent clash with the Shiite? This is mistake.
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 December 2015 23: 09 New
                -1
                Quote: Asadullah
                With all due respect, you put Syria in a Procrustean bed hastily knocked together by Arab monarchs

                No, I see that all Arab countries are moving towards religiosity and attempts to find some self-identification in this

                Quote: Asadullah
                Syria is primarily a secular state

                I see it, on the screams of UTbbe
                There, besides Alla, I’m at a bar - there’s nothing at all

                Quote: Asadullah
                Or Syria is secular, and the processes going on in it will be shades of democracy, or it is a conglomerate of Arab and Turkish Bantustans, constantly at war with each other, and in breaks looking for the extreme guilty

                Great, you said - it will be so.
                I'm talking about bantustans
                Quote: Asadullah
                Unfortunately, in Israel there are many who believe that Sunni dogma is a way to increase the security of Israel.

                More details please
                Quote: Asadullah
                today, the influence of the Arabs on the US Congress is perhaps greater than the influence of Israel. And what will happen tomorrow

                Tomorrow is December 15th.
                Let's get in trouble as they come
                Quote: Asadullah
                if the Jews themselves also support (even passively) the idea of ​​the Sunni dogma, for the subsequent clash with the Shiite? This is mistake.

                Yes, Jews do not even need to get into these squabbles.
                Sunnis and Shiites themselves do this very well.
                By the way I would like to note. your comments . really interesting.
                Best regards hi
                1. Asadullah
                  Asadullah 14 December 2015 23: 43 New
                  +8
                  No, I see that all Arab countries are moving towards religiosity and attempts to find some self-identification in this


                  The experience of ten years of observation gives reason to believe that this movement is in the nature of the movement of ions in the electrolyte, when a constant voltage is applied to it in the form of US dollars, exchanged by the Arab monarchies for oil. As soon as the voltage supply stops, the electrolyte separation will also stop. With the transition to the Brownian form of being.

                  I see it, on the screams of UTbbe
                  There, besides Alla, I’m at a bar - there’s nothing at all


                  Well, what do you want from the farmers who learned to read and write from the Mullah according to the Koran. All people remember God, in moments of shock, however, only Russians, while still love to mention a woman of easy virtue.)

                  More details please


                  It is believed that the radicalization of Islam will expose the Sunnis and Shiites to a clash among themselves. In their long and bloody confrontation, they will forget about Israel, as an annoying factor in their religious feelings. This idea first arose in Polish minds, which somewhat confused the concepts of fraud and healthy competition. I talked a lot with various religious figures of Islam, and I can say for sure that Israel is not traded for a snuff of tobacco. And the collisions of two ummahs are exclusively dormitory-based. In a split form, they simply forget about each other. It will not work to radicalize the Sunni Ummah and direct the war on Shiites. For very, very many factors.

                  Tomorrow is December 15th.


                  smile Painfully familiar. But do not forget, in order for this day to be called the 15th of December, someone had done a lot of work long before that, and someone had done it even earlier that this day would come in principle.

                  Thank you for evaluating my humble thoughts, but we are here to exchange precisely them, and not slogans. Is not it? hi
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 15 December 2015 04: 22 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Asadullah
                    Thank you for evaluating my humble thoughts, but we are here to exchange precisely them, and not slogans. Is not it?

                    good I read your conversation with interest and pleasure .. informatively and without dirt my ++ to both hi
                2. 34 region
                  34 region 15 December 2015 04: 43 New
                  +2
                  And under Saddam, the Sunnis and Shiites also fought among themselves?
            2. family
              family tree 14 December 2015 22: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              all Muslims are kind of like brothers

              These brothers are slaughtered with each other, cleaner than Catholics and Protestants during the Reformation. request
            3. 34 region
              34 region 14 December 2015 23: 01 New
              0
              But in Israel tribal relations do not exist? Everyone believes that you live precisely by such a structure of society.
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 December 2015 23: 21 New
                -1
                Quote: 34 region
                But in Israel tribal relations do not exist? Everyone believes that you live precisely by such a structure of society.

                Is that all you?
                1. 34 region
                  34 region 15 December 2015 04: 49 New
                  +1
                  I doubt that only me. In my opinion you yourself think so. Israeli tribe with its kinship. Is not it?
        4. family
          family tree 14 December 2015 22: 09 New
          +7
          Quote: atalef
          SSA has an umbrella structure and consists of small local units operating throughout Syria. The name "PAS" is often used as a generalization for the entire armed opposition to the Syrian government, but in reality it is a specific alliance of rebel groups [5].

          A specific alliance, well what This is like a bunch of partisan independent formations (I try to do it more correctly) and, supposedly, the center, supposedly coordinating their actions, on which they put a bolt belay
          In general, the war, nonche, begins for three reasons, the first is oil, the second is oil, the third is oil. The Russian Federation got in seriously when oil went from Syria to Turkey and it was required to block this channel, and the routes here: http://lifenews.ru/video/14135
          Compare with the map of Alexander. Sasha hi
          There are two reasons:
          1. What for is it needed, additional, at least short-term dumping at the oil market, with an already not weak fall in oil prices.
          2. Nafig it is necessary, the strengthening of Turkey, with their Ottoman-empire manners, especially in the army, you won’t have time to blink, under Sukhumi, and the Georgians will start yelling, they say save and help, as it already happened.
          But Assad, besides Russia, has nowhere to go, Gaddafi and Hussein, I still remember what
          You say that dictators would not have climbed there, with revolutions and democracies, even if it were, in evolution, in its turn. But democracy, by the way, under slavery appeared as a state system, but under feudalism it did not take root, except in separate towns, in a perverted form. So, maybe you don’t need to cross the hedgehog with a snake, at best, a couple of meters of barbed wire will work out.
          Sanya (atalef), oil found in Israel fellow , odd, I'm worried about you, 4,2 lard barrels, not khukh-mukhra what
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 December 2015 22: 30 New
            0
            Quote: perepilka
            A specific alliance, well, well. It's like a bunch of partisan independent formations (I try to be more correct, so to speak) and, supposedly, the center supposedly coordinating their actions, on which they put a bolt

            Hey . Volodya
            Of course - there is practically no centralization

            Quote: perepilka
            In general, the war, nonche, begins for three reasons, the first is oil, the second is oil, the third is oil.

            Yes, that's a shame. oil sea - it costs a penny and how did Syria get there - she has oil - the cat cried

            Quote: perepilka
            The Russian Federation got in seriously when oil went from Syria to Turkey and it was required to block this channel, and the routes here:

            Well chesslovo. ISIS oil 0.02% of the world turnover, tears, the piano do not play

            Especially . they began to bomb them. for some reason, 50 days after entering the videoconferencing. why?
            Further (I don’t say. Because the Kurds said that they had oil) - but nevertheless, now ISIS is not dragging oil, and how did that affect the price or something else?

            Quote: perepilka
            What for is it needed, additional, at least short-term dumping at the oil market, with an already not weak fall in oil prices

            After the defeat of ISIS’s oil discovery, did the price of oil rise? Not ? And why ? There seems to be no dumping
            Quote: perepilka
            Nafig it is necessary, the strengthening of Turkey, with their Ottoman-empire manners, especially in the army, you will not have time to blink an eye, they will be near Sukhum, and the Georgians will start yelling, they say, save and help, as already happened.

            Volodya, 2 weeks before the plane, Erdogan and Putin very sincerely shook hands = each other.
            We said that Erdogan, for which we received 1000 minuses.
            Quote: perepilka
            Assad, except Russia has nowhere to go, Gaddafi and Hussein, I still remember

            Well, there will go
            Quote: perepilka
            You say that dictators would not have climbed there, with revolutions and democracies, even if it were, according to evolution, in its turn.

            We did not climb.
            Arba never missed the opportunity to drive themselves into the Middle Ages, what to help them in this? They themselves know everything perfectly
            Quote: perepilka
            Sanya (atalef), oil was found in Israel, even, I'm worried about you, 4,2 lard barrels, not khukh-mukhra

            Seriously ? I did not hear.
            In general, oil is bad.
            Our people are wildly resisting gas exports, demonstrations, etc.
            We then understand - where does the oil needle begin, 2 things stop
            1. Job
            2. Brain development.
            And we cannot do without these things.
            So that we do not have oil - and do not.
            1. Alexei
              Alexei 14 December 2015 22: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              , now ISIS is not dragging oil, and how did this affect the price there or something else?

              Oil prices will jump when all the shale corporations are bent, which may have been created in order for the Saudis to play on the price tags. But forever they will not lower the price, they, too, you know, are not particularly developed on an industrial scale ... The main thing is to deprive the gangs of earning opportunities.
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 December 2015 23: 22 New
                -4
                Quote: Alexej
                Oil prices will jump when all the shale corporations are bent, which may have been created in order for the Saudis to play on the price tags

                I do not see the logic
                Quote: Alexej
                But forever they will not lower the price, they, too, you know, are not particularly developed on an industrial scale ..

                Who are the Saudis?
                Have you been to the Emirates? (I don’t) - but they don’t pull on the underdeveloped
                1. Alexei
                  Alexei 14 December 2015 23: 38 New
                  +3
                  Quote: atalef
                  I do not see the logic

                  You do not see the logic in the jumps in oil prices, and how do these jumps affect the Russian economy? Or do you not see the logic in creating pre-failed shale projects whose purpose is to create many (albeit temporary) high-paying jobs, and at the same time in the future, shock to the Russian economy?
                  Quote: atalef
                  Have you been to the Emirates? (I don’t) - but they don’t pull on the underdeveloped

                  What do they produce? What are they trading with?
                2. family
                  family tree 15 December 2015 00: 22 New
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  I do not see the logic

                  Lie more recourse
              2. 34 region
                34 region 14 December 2015 23: 36 New
                +1
                If the ego grows and gets into the Saudis, then the oil will be free. Shipping costs only. So far, this is the case.
            2. 34 region
              34 region 14 December 2015 23: 08 New
              0
              But on the issue of oil needles, you have to agree with you. Beats on the spot. Can I get an opinion on the Saudis? They are not going to get off the needle? And what about their brains? Questions without irony. It is interesting to know the neighbors' opinions about the Saudis.
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 December 2015 23: 24 New
                -1
                Quote: 34 region
                . Can I get an opinion on the Saudis? They are not going to get off the needle?

                Ask the Saudis
                Quote: 34 region
                And what about their brains?

                I think mostly not bad. maybe having until the 50s one sand and camels.
                Uneducated and impoverished Bedouins, somehow they were able to create something that can be envied
                1. 34 region
                  34 region 15 December 2015 04: 54 New
                  +4
                  And what is the opinion about the Arabs rushing about? They themselves drive in the Middle Ages, then they can be envied. Why is the attitude towards Assad negative, but nothing about the Saudis? What connects you with them? Darken you something.
            3. family
              family tree 14 December 2015 23: 39 New
              +1
              There is no centralization, that is, not an army, but a bunch of independents with a criminal bias, more weapons, feudalism and so on.
              Even 0.02% play under certain conditions. There is not much difference, everything seems to storm the palace, provide a secret landing of special forces, or to raise panic on the stock exchange, it will be a fever for a long time.
              After the defeat, you are right, and the price has not increased, and there is no dumping, because dumping plays for a fall, did not drop sharply?
              To the Turks, I have more pretensions than yours, after the "rest" in Antalya, the first armored, by hook or by crook, to drive again to Turkey laughing
              You didn’t climb, you simply supported the anti-Assadists, indirectly, by blows to the Syrian army. The most interesting thing that I understand is to give pendal to the old enemy when he is busy with other problems, but I don’t understand how you can exchange the old and famous enemy that you beat for a new and unpredictable one that can beat the old one?
              And on the account that oil is bad, all the transport on it is tied up, and while the games are going on around it, it’s not up to you, Sanya, so I’m worried. There are both you and us who, for these hydrocarbons, even girls, will be sent to the front lines with machine guns.
        5. Serhio
          Serhio 15 December 2015 01: 10 New
          +2
          That is, the SSA controls just the area where the SU-24 was shot down. What are the conclusions? negative
          1. family
            family tree 15 December 2015 03: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: Serhio
            That is, the SSA controls just the area where the SU-24 was shot down. What are the conclusions? negative

            SSA, this is just a name, they themselves will not understand which ISA is from ISA, and which is ISA from ISA. Sometimes scumbags just slaughter each other, purely on Muslim issues. The mullah will give out any fatwa, but what the mullah betrayed is the law
            ps Guri, though in their paradise, is already sorely lacking, so brand new ones like bachabose go request
        6. ArcanAG
          ArcanAG 15 December 2015 07: 16 New
          +1
          Those. SSA is a rebranding of al-Nusra?
      4. GHOST29RUS
        GHOST29RUS 14 December 2015 20: 02 New
        +3
        And what is the use of collaborating with SSA? They inflict the same damage to the IS as the Syrian armed forces? Or liberated from the IG more territories than government troops?
        1. atalef
          atalef 14 December 2015 20: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: GHOST29RUS
          And what is the use of collaborating with SSA? Do they inflict IS the same damage as the Syrian armed forces? Or liberated from the IG more territories than government troops?

          You know in due time, when I listened to a lecture course on the History of Israel and Oriental Studies. A very interesting fact was introduced.
          The war for independence, Druze battalions (about 3 tons of soldiers) are fighting on the side of the Arab forces, one of the IDF officers held talks with Druze elders and .. all these 3 tons went over to the side of Israel.
          Then the lecturer asked us, what do you think, how many soldiers did the IDF receive?
          Well, we are so type - 3t, he says, no 6000t
          We are so confused, why? maybe the army of the enemy decreased by 3t, and you increased by 3t.
          Now think, in the SSA 50-70 there is a warrior.
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 14 December 2015 20: 19 New
            +6
            the bike is old but has the right to life in this case. You must understand that the abbreviation CCA is only an abbreviation. You yourself acknowledge that this is a collection of different gangs, sometimes not even gangs, but people who truly believe in their goal and honestly fight with Assad, without terror. So with this, you probably need to negotiate and some kind of partnership to build relationships. But most likely these are ordinary bandits and lawless people. In any case, they will either have to be squeezed out or eliminated. Although some individuals may compromise. The same Putin has an experience of reconciliation with bandits. I think that there are chances for an agreement with more or less adequate opponents of Assad. But this is unlikely to be quick and easy to do. There are serious forces that do not need this. And it’s very difficult to deal with them. Israel itself is likely to do everything to make the confrontation in Syria intensify
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 20: 24 New
              -7
              Quote: AwaZ
              I think that there are chances for an agreement with more or less adequate opponents of Assad. But it’s unlikely to be quick and easy to do.

              Without solving the issue of Assad’s departure, it’s not possible.
              Quote: AwaZ
              Israel itself is likely to do everything to make the confrontation in Syria intensify

              What for ? There is someone to try there even without us laughing
              1. kerosene
                kerosene 14 December 2015 21: 09 New
                11
                Dear, not Assad should leave, but IG. Only then you need to ask the people (and only the people) whom they want to see at the helm of the country.
              2. Awaz
                Awaz 14 December 2015 21: 25 New
                +4
                well, that is, that is to whom, but Israel will add oil to the fire.
                The topic of Assad’s departure is already a tantrum. It will be necessary to agree on any bandits with Assad. Because there’s no one else with it. Well, not with Putin.
                Unfortunately, as far as I know, the first attempts at negotiations were conducted long before the start of the Russian operation in Syria. According to the Russian negotiators, there are almost no adequate ones there. And all the other repeated consultations did not change the arrangement in any way. There may be a change in the situation at this stage, as it may push some of those who are slightly more adequate to some kind of dialogue, but it is unlikely. Probably the vast majority of this audience is not independent and act on the orders and do not decide anything themselves.
                Even if someone decides on a dialogue, they are unlikely to be allowed to. But we do not know all the subtleties of the east, and who knows, maybe something there they will stir up the track.
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 14 December 2015 20: 19 New
            +8
            Quote: atalef
            Now think, in the SSA 50-70 there is a warrior.

            There is something to think about ... because after the bearded with a black flag are burned out on the territory of Syria, the next ones to stir up the next “revolution” in the SAR will be just these 50-70 .... It's no secret who finances them and arm themselves, so let them seek allies among their sponsors ... Sasha, hi !
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 20: 28 New
              -9
              Quote: Tersky
              Quote: atalef
              Now think, in the SSA 50-70 there is a warrior.

              There is something to think about ... because after the bearded with a black flag are burned out on the territory of Syria, the next who will stir up the next “revolution” in the SAR will be just these 50-70 .... It's no secret who they funded and arming themselves. Sasha hi !

              Hey . Victor.
              The problem is actually that the Assad and ISIS fronts are practically not in contact, Assad is fighting with the SSA. (and they mostly bomb them)
              But Assad SSA can not be defeated, but ISIS? The Alawites will certainly not go there (they will not be captured by the ISIS (Alawites), they will be taken to organs immediately), but who should fight with ISIS? It should be Sunnis - and besides the CCA, there’s no one.
              Now only SSA (seriously) is fighting with ISIS.
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 14 December 2015 20: 38 New
                +7
                Quote: atalef
                The problem is actually that the Assad and ISIS fronts are practically not in contact,

                I would not say...[/ Center]
              2. andj61
                andj61 14 December 2015 20: 51 New
                13
                Quote: atalef
                The problem is actually that the Assad and ISIS fronts are practically not in contact, Assad is fighting with the SSA. (and they mostly bomb them)
                But Assad SSA can not be defeated, but ISIS? The Alawites will certainly not go there (they will not be captured by the ISIS (Alawites), they will be taken to organs immediately), but who should fight with ISIS? It should be Sunnis - and besides the CCA, there’s no one.
                Now only SSA (seriously) is fighting with ISIS.

                Hello to Israeli power engineers! hi
                ISIS is actually only one of the promoted groups thanks to the talented directors, and there are plenty of such thugs. They are not only in ISIS and al-Nusra. And the one that ate the heart of the Syrian soldier was also from the SSA (although later they claimed that he didn’t eat, but only held it in the mouth, and not the heart, but it was a piece of the lung). SSA is generally a conditional thing, proclaimed a single thing for the sake of dividing resources allocated in favor of "moderate" resources. It was difficult for our military to find them - and those who are in Syria, and not those who are knocking money around the world. Only after a month of bombing did several groups appear with which our military cooperate, and even bomb in their interests. There is no unity in this SSA, but on the side of Assad there is more unity. And the Sunnis, oddly enough, are on Assad’s side too. But Assad should leave now - and at least five more, at least ten, will be added to the motley spectrum of groups already from those who are now holding on to Assad. And the war will not stop there at all - the same field commanders of the SSA, the Assad commanders, etc. among themselves for power will begin to fight.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 14 December 2015 21: 06 New
                  -4
                  Quote: andj61
                  Hello to Israeli power engineers!

                  Mutually hi
                  Quote: andj61
                  ISIS is actually only one of the promoted groups thanks to the talented directors, and there are plenty of such thugs. They are not only in ISIS and al-Nusra. And the one who ate the heart of a Syrian soldier is also from the SSA

                  Yes, radish is not sweeter, you understand, for me it’s all under the root (by the way, along with Assad), but the reality is as follows.
                  Which of all cannibals, those that feed on liver, is preferable for Russia.
                  Quote: andj61
                  Only after a month of bombing did several groups appear with which our military cooperated, and even bombed in their interests.

                  Not from a good life. Assad’s army is worth nothing
                  Quote: andj61
                  . There is no unity in this SSA, but on the side of Assad there is more unity

                  What's the point?
                  what's the difference, cannibals sit at the table for 5 people or 50?
                  Once again, I tell you, Assad’s army is theoretically not only returnable. but it’s impossible to hold on to it.
                  Quote: andj61
                  And the Sunnis, oddly enough, on the side of Assad, too, are

                  the presence of a pair of three thousand grand pianos do not play any.

                  Quote: andj61
                  And the war will not stop there at all - these same field commanders of the SSA, Assad commanders, etc. among themselves for power will begin to fight

                  Well of course.
                  This is for years and years. (If Assad does not leave), and if he leaves - then the same for a long time.
                  In general, everything is there for a long time. For a very long time, and then someday there will be elections.
                  And everything will spin again. Since the Alaites will spread rot, Iran will throw them out.
                  And with Russia? Well I do not know . generally . there are no prospects.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 14 December 2015 21: 25 New
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    This is for years and years. (If Assad does not leave), and if he leaves - then the same for a long time.
                    In general, everything is there for a long time. For a very long time, and then someday there will be elections.
                    And everything will spin again. Since the Alaites will spread rot, Iran will throw them out.
                    And with Russia? Well I do not know . generally . there are no prospects.

                    But what the hell is the election, if "the rifle gives rise to power", and not democracy at all!
                    Good, it’s necessary to split up there, but it’s in no one’s interests, the United States itself will not allow it. While everything goes to the somalization of the territory. At some point, Assad will not be needed by anyone - and then, I think, a new Alawite Lebanon will appear on the coast - and the rest will be given to the Sunnis for dismantling: but even in this case, if there is a supply - from Turkey, Qatar, the Saudis - even fight against each other will not stop. And the Sunnis are unlikely to climb into the purely Alawite areas: Kurdish enclaves are an example of this.
                    If Russia and the United States fail to agree, then in a couple of months Russia can leave it if there is a reason. And the reason, as you know, can always be found. Or arrange. wink
                2. BARKHAN
                  BARKHAN 14 December 2015 23: 04 New
                  +3
                  Not a heart, but a piece of lung according to them? Well then, of course, yes, quite civilized ... Damn it!
                  Assad can’t leave at all ... neither now nor later, while the war is going on. The whole point of his departure is Gaddafi’s "departure" in Libya. As long as Assad is there, there is Syria. Without it, the country will turn into one boiling pot. Without it, we can’t see the bases. Is the SSA fighting ISIS? That's great, even if they destroy each other. Who wants to turn their backs on Assad, let him swear. And until then, bomb both of them.
                  And what other options remain?
                  There were initially only two of them ...
                  ... leave Syria ...
                  ... win in Syria ...
                  In my opinion, not only Jews dream of a war "until the last Syrian," but all the other neighbors as well. Besides Iran, they are probably just the next in line.
                  My opinion is that Assad should be maintained and guarded carefully.
              3. KG_patriot_last
                KG_patriot_last 14 December 2015 20: 53 New
                +1
                And east of Aleppo and Tadmore, it’s probably not ISIS, but “furry oppositionists” in your opinion, huh?
                1. atalef
                  atalef 14 December 2015 21: 07 New
                  -5
                  Quote: KG_patriot_last
                  And east of Aleppo and Tadmore, it’s probably not ISIS, but “furry oppositionists” in your opinion, huh?

                  Well, I said - practically do not touch.
                  There are a couple of three places. but there they almost do not fight.
                  1. KG_patriot_last
                    KG_patriot_last 14 December 2015 21: 31 New
                    +4
                    And where then do you think the war is going on? Mechin, the supply road, Palmyra, Kveyris, Deyrozor - probably in these places they play "checkers"?
              4. padded jacket
                padded jacket 14 December 2015 22: 00 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                Now only SSA (seriously) is fighting with ISIS.

                Delirium as they say enchanting lol
                FSA is fighting mainly against Assad.
                SSA today at your favorite RBC:
                "Free Syrian Army" denied cooperation with Russia
                Representatives of the "Free Syrian Army" denied receiving air support from Russian aviation. Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that it covers their offensive from the air and supplies weapons
                http://www.rbc.ru/politics/14/12/2015/566edacd9a79471e698b4692
          3. Asadullah
            Asadullah 14 December 2015 21: 17 New
            +1
            in SSA 50-70t warrior


            Not so much. This takes into account the active population of essentially abandoned cities.
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 21: 33 New
              -1
              Quote: Asadullah
              in SSA 50-70t warrior


              Not so much. This takes into account the active population of essentially abandoned cities.

              How much do you have ?
          4. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 14 December 2015 22: 46 New
            +1
            There is another slippery question ... All of these 50-70t warriors dream of American military bases in Syria, not Russian ones. Well, and what is the likelihood that these warriors will not go over to the side of ISIS at the crucial moment, or let them through their orders.
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 23: 31 New
              -2
              Quote: Barkhan
              There is another slippery question ... All these 50-70t warriors dream of American military bases in Syria

              And why are they needed there? They are in Turkey, Israel is generally the same, Jordan, Saudi Iraq, Syria does not solve anything

              Quote: Barkhan
              .Well, and what is the likelihood that these warriors will not go over to the side of ISIS at the most crucial moment, or let them through their orders.

              No, that's why everything is there for a very long time.
          5. 34 region
            34 region 14 December 2015 23: 18 New
            +2
            Yes! Propaganda works well! Your political instructors are 5 plus! Although the logic of the political instructor is clear to me. Here he is right. Although the IDF received 3. I wonder what happened to the Druze after the war. Do you have marriages of Jews and Arabs are welcome, or they (marriages) do not exist?
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 23: 38 New
              -1
              Quote: 34 region
              I wonder what happened to the Druze after the war?

              They live wonderful, serve in the Army
              Quote: 34 region
              Are you a marriage of Jews and Arabs are welcome or they (marriages) do not exist?

              Exist . and what do you mean are welcome?
              Who wants to get married, the state is on the drum.
      5. madjik
        madjik 14 December 2015 21: 10 New
        +6
        YES AS IN CHECHNYA - ALL BRIGADE GENERALS laughing
      6. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 14 December 2015 22: 27 New
        +1
        Herr General fellow ... and why not the field marshal? Something "The Wedding in the Robin" reminded ... laughing
        But probably it’s still worth thinking about, let them fight, we’ll sort it out after the victory.
        Those who wish will atone with blood to blame. And the more successful the war, the more there will be defectors.
    2. udincev
      udincev 14 December 2015 19: 50 New
      +4
      It’s dangerous to work with them. As if, when attacking ISIS, according to the SSA (partners of the overseas powerful coalition), one would not begin to hammer excavators, water pipes, real ground forces fighting the Daesh.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 14 December 2015 19: 53 New
      14
      I am tormented by vague doubts about this moderate opposition, some kind of general wants to tell us the goals, only I think it will be the positions of government troops, residential quarters, hospitals, etc. If he wants to cooperate, let him transmit information to the General Staff of the Syrian government forces, there they know who is who, and even the Syrians will give us, it looks too suspicious, the mattresses through this general can slip and disinfect, then wash off.
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 14 December 2015 19: 59 New
        +2
        Everything goes according to plan, they begin to chop off the fin. fueling the militants ... Slowly but efficiently! And such things ...
        IRAQ PREPARES OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR IRAN TO INTRODUCE TROOPS
        http://www.irdiplomacy.ir/fa/page/1954491/ع..

        Good move ..! hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 14 December 2015 20: 13 New
          -1
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Everything goes according to plan, they begin to chop off the fin. fueling the militants ... Slowly but efficiently! And such things ...
          IRAQ PREPARES OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR IRAN TO INTRODUCE TROOPS
          http://www.irdiplomacy.ir/fa/page/1954491/ع..

          Good move ..! hi

          Moronic. And Iran will not do that.
          ISIS in Iraq arose from the confrontation of Shiites (led by Prime Minister Al Maliki) Sunnis.
          ISIS arose because of this confrontation.
          The entry of Shiite troops will further worsen the confrontation.
          Remember the 2 brigades of the Iraqi troops that threw all their weapons (giving them ISIS) and fled?
          So these were the Shiite brigades of the Iraqi army.

          Iran is not so stupid as to send troops into Iraq.
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 14 December 2015 20: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
            Everything goes according to plan, they begin to chop off the fin. fueling the militants ... Slowly but efficiently! And such things ...
            IRAQ PREPARES OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR IRAN TO INTRODUCE TROOPS
            http://www.irdiplomacy.ir/fa/page/1954491/ع..

            Good move ..! hi

            Moronic. And Iran will not do that.
            ISIS in Iraq arose from the confrontation of Shiites (led by Prime Minister Al Maliki) Sunnis.
            ISIS arose because of this confrontation.
            The entry of Shiite troops will further worsen the confrontation.
            Remember the 2 brigades of the Iraqi troops that threw all their weapons (giving them ISIS) and fled?
            So these were the Shiite brigades of the Iraqi army.

            Iran is not so stupid as to send troops into Iraq.

            Great reaction ...! hi And why are you so sure of that? In the world, everything changes very quickly, what you wrote is true of course, but not forever! No offense then ...
            1. Alexvl
              Alexvl 14 December 2015 20: 51 New
              0
              Iran withdraws troops from Syria, especially not to climb into Iraq
            2. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 21: 08 New
              0
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
              Great reaction ...! And why are you so sure of that? In the world, everything changes very quickly, what you wrote is true of course, but not forever! No offense then ...

              What is 4 years of war in Syria. Compared to the centuries-old war, the Sunnis are Shiites.
              And what can Syria change in this war?
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 14 December 2015 21: 19 New
            +7
            Quote: atalef
            ISIS arose because of this confrontation.

            What are you! belay You yourself believe in that? ISIS arose thanks to the efforts of the United States in translating the theory of controlled chaos. Do you know how much warfare is worth? Right, dear pleasure. And this is ensured by the US-controlled countries - CA, Turkey, Qatar, buying free oil. The United States can easily leave IS without pants by banning its satellites from buying counterfeit oil.
            So, the direct answer to your question - ISIS arose only on the heating of the United States differences between the Sunnis and Shiites. Like the Muslim Brothers went all-in in Egypt with the money of the State Department.
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 December 2015 21: 25 New
              -4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              What about you! You yourself believe in that? ISIS arose thanks to the efforts of the United States in translating the theory of controlled chaos.

              A moron who doesn't see beyond her nose
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Do you know how much combat operations cost?

              They do not say much. In Novorossia, they are fighting, but where is the money from? wink
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              . The United States can easily leave IS without pants by prohibiting its satellites from buying counterfeit oil.

              The videoconferencing system could have already bombed all of the mines for 50 days
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              So, the direct answer to your question - ISIS arose only on the heating of the United States differences between the Sunnis and Shiites.

              There were always disagreements.
              Saddam spread the Shiites, the United States came. raised the Shiites, they began to spread rot Sunnis.
              That spun.
              and the Sunnis fought = Shiites ---- hundreds of years
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Like the Muslim Brothers went all-in in Egypt with the money of the State Department.

              Well, not really, the Americans just decided to play democracy in Egypt, and Mursi did them. it’s good that the Saudis came. gave grandmas Sisi and from the Muslim brothers remained minced meat.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 14 December 2015 22: 05 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                A moron who doesn't see beyond her nose

                Those. Do you think that at the helm of the USA are stupid people? laughing They came, gouged the legitimate "regimes", and here it is - ISIS democracy?
                Quote: atalef
                In Novorossia, they are fighting, but where is the money from?

                And you yourself don’t know.
                Quote: atalef
                The videoconferencing system could have already bombed all of the mines for 50 days

                I agree, but not everything can be explained in two words. And make two moves. Did you play chess?
                Quote: atalef
                Saddam spread the Shiites, the United States came. raised the Shiites, they began to spread rot Sunnis.
                That spun.

                And the USA according to Zadornov-well, stupid-eee! They never imagined what would happen after the overthrow of Saddam. But even when they saw the result, they all the same climbed into direct Libya, and into quiet in Syria, Yemen, Egypt.
                Quote: atalef
                Americans just decided to play democracy in Egypt
                EASY TO PLAY. What are you talking about, Sanya, about the party in the fool for "just like that"?
                Quote: atalef
                Mursi did them

                Mursi made them? belay Where is Mursi now? And do not blame the Saudis - without the incentive nod of the State Department, they will not take a step. A fully controlled US monarchy.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 14 December 2015 22: 44 New
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Those. Do you think that at the helm of the USA are stupid people?

                  IN THE USA ? the same is enough
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  They came, gouged the legitimate "regimes", and here it is - ISIS democracy?

                  in ISIS democracy?
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And you yourself don’t know.

                  Nope wink
                  but the people say for their own (in the sense of LDNR)
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  I agree, but not everything can be explained in two words. And make two moves. Did you play chess?

                  Why, everything is clear.
                  For you from the USA everything is clear to me with this.
                  Assad did not bomb them for 3 years, VKS - 50 days?
                  Why? -- the answer is simple. Assad needed oil ISIL, otherwise sorry not invested in elementary logic
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  . But even when they saw the result, they all the same climbed into direct Libya, and into quiet in Syria, Yemen, Egypt.

                  Igor, come on. You're not from America (not stupid)
                  so remember
                  1. The United States did not climb into Libya. This mess mess brewed France
                  2 Syria is a conglomerate of problems, again. the first is France. Then the saudis
                  3 Yemen - Iran climbed there (with the support of the Hussites) they threw off the president. Saudi Arabia climbed, and in general today. the Hussites are very sour
                  4 Egypt - USA stupidly supported the overthrow of Mubarak and the arrival of Muslim brothers (Mursi)
                  Everything was returned to its original Saudis (supporting Sisi), America has already prayed for its sins before Egypt (although Sisi continues to periodically press them, not so long ago. When Kerry arrived, he was publicly stopped at customs and searched) laughing
                  Accept me for some axiom and we will not return to this
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  EASY TO PLAY. What are you talking about, Sanya, about the party in the fool for "just like that"?

                  This is my sarcasm. they decided . that the democrats and Mursi’s rise to power in Egypt are good for the country .-- stupid people
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Mursi made them?

                  Amerov? Sure . he bred them. like puppies
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Where is Mursi now? And do not blame the Saudis - without the incentive nod of the State Department, they will not take a step.

                  Leave your nonsense, for grandmothers on the bench.
                  The Saudis came and told Sisi - how much is needed, how many dibs are there, America in response blocked the fin. help to Egypt.
                  So the Saudis, not straining themselves, dumped 30 billion. In Egypt, and the State Department. described himself, understanding that Egypt was losing.
                  In general, despite Kerry’s public humiliation. swallowed and now not sluggishly driven to Egypt. everything is as it was.
      2. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 14 December 2015 20: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: 79807420129
        I am tormented by vague doubts about this moderate opposition, some kind of general wants to tell us the goals, only I think it will be the positions of government troops, residential quarters, hospitals, etc. If he wants to cooperate, let him transmit information to the General Staff of the Syrian government forces, there they know who is who, and even the Syrians will give us, it looks too suspicious, the mattresses through this general can slip and disinfect, then wash off.


        All these generals will be announced a lot now, the Russians must, you see. Triple filter for starters, but finally explain to Assad what a penal battalion is! Smearing of porridge begins on a plate, which we really do not need.
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      4. mitrich
        mitrich 14 December 2015 20: 19 New
        +3
        And do not we bomb this SSA? If not, this is not order, it is necessary that they would get a fraction of our hotel guests.
        Assad correctly said that the opposition is those who lay down their arms and begin to cooperate with the authorities. The rest are terrarids.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 14 December 2015 22: 42 New
          0
          Well, how can we! the saints are American-backed! They are not bandits, they are noble pirates ...
      5. 34 region
        34 region 14 December 2015 20: 22 New
        0
        Or maybe he wants to earn on target designation? Pay, I will give the coordinates of the target. And what's in there? Allah will understand after the shelling. After all, the army is called free. But there is some kind of shisha. What (whose) money is Zin?
    4. Uran
      Uran 14 December 2015 19: 58 New
      +1
      So we ask for cooperation. for the sake of a common cause. extermination of fighters. but this one just woke up or something?
    5. volodimer
      volodimer 14 December 2015 20: 42 New
      0
      No, you need to go straight to at least see these "generals"! And then, after all, their entire army (three people) is neither a satellite, nor a drone ... Or their army, while in the ranks of annusra and daisha they are.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 14 December 2015 21: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: volodimer
        No, you need to go straight to at least see these "generals"!

        - from 28 or 29 oct. 2015 year request
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 14 December 2015 22: 19 New
          0
          The last phrase is OFF. thank
        2. volodimer
          volodimer 14 December 2015 22: 27 New
          +1
          No, well, then of course. He is in the form of stars ... like in heaven! I recently bought a suit for fishing ... Damn, I still had to find the tinsel of demobel ... lol
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 14 December 2015 22: 29 New
            0
            Exactly for sure, fishing is not only about vodka
            Quote: volodimer
            No, well, then of course. He is in the form of stars ... like in heaven! I recently bought a suit for fishing ... Damn, I still had to find the tinsel of demobel ... lol

            laughing
    6. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 14 December 2015 23: 57 New
      +1
      In the USA, too, the holiday will be soon, the show is just beginning. I hope the spiders in the bank will devour each other. From Washington, reports come that the US Supreme Court chairman Roberts has signed an arrest warrant for Obama.http: //www.e-news.su/politics/ 89190-obama-dolzhen-byt-arestovan-po-prikazu
      -verhovnogo-suda.html ............ Alaska judge Anna Maria Riezinger addressed an open letter to all Federal agents, including the FBI, and federal marshals, to arrest Congress , President and Secretary of the Treasury.http: //mpsh.ru/5670-sudya-shtata-alyaska-prizyvaet-arestovat-obamu-
      kongress-i-sekretarya-kaznacheystva.html .................. Russia Warns Donald Trump of a conspiracy to kill him http://cont.ws/post/163876 .. ..Turkey withdraws troops from northern Iraq? http://so-l.ru/news/show/turciya_vivodit_voyska_iz_severnogo_iraka_5
  2. avvg
    avvg 14 December 2015 19: 40 New
    +2
    But, I have doubts that this "General SSA" has an army.
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    2. Nymp
      Nymp 14 December 2015 21: 18 New
      0
      This general decided to legalize at the expense of the Russians, ripening the death of Daesh trying on the shoulder straps of a fighter against terrorism. But in fact nothing is different from these barmalei. But at the same time with a claim to legitimate opposition. I would send him a couple of calibers on my own.
  3. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 14 December 2015 19: 40 New
    0
    Puppets of the West decided to appoint themselves the main? Americans and Saudis - for. Therefore, coalition aviation is often "mistaken" with objects of bombing.
  4. ded100
    ded100 14 December 2015 19: 41 New
    +5
    Or maybe the best in the old fashioned way is not bad! laughing
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 14 December 2015 21: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: ded100
      Or maybe the best in the old fashioned way is not bad! laughing
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 14 December 2015 19: 41 New
    +8
    "why the" SSA general "had not previously expressed a desire to cooperate with Russia in the fight against Daesh (ISIS) militants"

    Yes, because the priest began to bake, we must pass the lightning rod. In general, according to such data, you can still lose Dry, or even not one. what
  6. sober
    sober 14 December 2015 19: 42 New
    +9
    Yes, it is not known what they slipped !!!!!!!!!!

    poke into the picture!
  7. Tersky
    Tersky 14 December 2015 19: 42 New
    +8
    "General" named Hossam al-Avak
    Well, yes, there are free generals like a flea dog, the Russian Aerospace Forces sleeps and sees how it would agree with every bearded sheep ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 14 December 2015 19: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Tersky
      there are free generals like a flea dog

      Even more than in. laughing Hi, hi. hi
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 14 December 2015 20: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Even more than in

        In comparison with the Syrian "assorted" kindergarten, there are only "sultans", "padishahs", "imams" like stars in the sky, but there is no need to speak for "generals". Zhenya, drinks !
  8. Vita vko
    Vita vko 14 December 2015 19: 46 New
    +4
    Want to do the right thing, listen to the SSA (USA) and do the opposite.
    1. MREDBEST
      MREDBEST 14 December 2015 20: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Vita VKO
      Want to do the right thing, listen to the SSA (USA) and do the opposite.

      General SSA, probably thinks that the Russians are the same as the Americans, will support anyone, if only to annoy the enemy! Not guys, they ran into that!
  9. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 14 December 2015 19: 51 New
    +5
    SSA is a control room for oil wells. ALL OIL, which cheap FSA pushed AS Shale, is OIL produced by IG !!!
    That is why there is a struggle! THERE ARE NO SHALE AND THERE WAS NEVER EVER! SCAM OF THE CENTURY !! ... like that.)
    That's why it was cheaper ....))
  10. moskowit
    moskowit 14 December 2015 19: 51 New
    +4
    "And my old woman wants you to be a Golden Fish on her premises ..." (free presentation of the genius tale of A. Pushkin)
  11. izya top
    izya top 14 December 2015 19: 53 New
    +4
    why didn’t he add, Assad must leave? Some incomplete demand turned out what
  12. bronik
    bronik 14 December 2015 19: 53 New
    +2
    They will indicate the coordinates of the goals ... Let them look for fools in the mirror.
  13. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 14 December 2015 19: 54 New
    +1
    It’s a pity ... It’s a pity that I won’t live when the GDP appears on the air with a pipe ... methodically killing tobacco in it ... Sorry.
    1. Tjeck
      Tjeck 14 December 2015 20: 23 New
      +3
      why so hurry to the other world sir? medicine is now progressing that in full it is possible to live a century if not greatly abused. smile
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 14 December 2015 20: 41 New
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        Quote: Tjeck
        if not to abuse too much.

        ahhh ... ohhh ... yes ... I won’t live ...
        Quote: Tjeck
        medicine is progressing now

        Well, Duc, I gave the GDP a head start for thirty years ... Or what?
        Oh you...
  14. Bogranz
    Bogranz 14 December 2015 19: 57 New
    +1
    Hmm .... that means that all the same VKS work, if THESE "generals" already wanted to cooperate.))))
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 14 December 2015 20: 13 New
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      Quote: Bograntz
      if already THESE "generals" wanted to cooperate.

      well, with the generals there who agree with a piece of their own..you have to put something on the altar, there have always been problems too .... So ... Someone has a sabotage account, I think ..
  15. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 14 December 2015 20: 00 New
    -1
    On the other hand, don’t put all the eggs in one basket. I’m for it. And let the GRU understand who gives what goals.
  16. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 14 December 2015 20: 01 New
    0
    Caliber would embed on this general
    1. cheap trick
      cheap trick 15 December 2015 00: 32 New
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      On December 7, the results of a US public opinion poll conducted by ORC International and CNN, according to which 53 percent of Americans supported the sending of ground forces by the United States to combat IS in Syria and Iraq, became known.

      until you get tired of praising the Caspian flotilla with its 26 missiles, and counting the missions of the VKS, the USA will begin to storm the crayfish, and calmly take it with the Kurds naturally, get a wreath of peacemaker! and you will sit and think, what tomorrow will be the ruble rate and oil prices!)))
  17. Foxbed
    Foxbed 14 December 2015 20: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "why the" SSA general "had not previously expressed a desire to cooperate with Russia in the fight against Daesh (ISIS) militants"


    And this is Pendo's strategy ... You need to fit in with the theme-cheb in time to collect the cream ... wink
  18. NKV
    NKV 14 December 2015 20: 04 New
    0
    The general is simply afraid and it must be said not in vain that his free army may fly from ours, so he requested support ..
  19. Leprekon
    Leprekon 14 December 2015 20: 05 New
    0
    Strange attempts to stab Russia! Somewhere near Alexander Sery, we heard something like this: - "Citizen, you don’t go there, you go here, otherwise the snow will fall, you’ll be completely dead!"
  20. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 14 December 2015 20: 10 New
    +1
    If we are talking about such coordinates, which are used by the crews of planes of the American coalition in Syria in the fight against Ishilov’s, “accidentally” missing the militants and getting into water pipes or from the positions of the SAR


    Well, ours are also not really children. They will check. Otherwise, one can fly with the same success from army sources. The probability is less, of course, but if you do not check, then nothing good will end. So, the more information about ISIS, the better. I think so.
  21. Tjeck
    Tjeck 14 December 2015 20: 16 New
    +3
    We should not care about anything other than purely personal interests. History shows that in addition to rare exceptions at a difficult moment, our allies were not in a hurry to give help to us. And to cooperate with the NATO coalition and (nondescript terrorists / moderate oposition) is generally blasphemy.
  22. Siga77
    Siga77 14 December 2015 20: 18 New
    0
    And * the army of this "general" in the hands can not be attributed!? ...
  23. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 14 December 2015 20: 20 New
    0
    Quote: NKV
    The general is simply afraid and it must be said for good reason

    but he’s not afraid of hell) More precisely, not what you mean. Clan genility and other traditionalism - it just stays a bit ... Do you think Assad has a different way?
  24. kit-kat
    kit-kat 14 December 2015 20: 23 New
    0
    SSA seeks to secure protection. Did it smell fried? Moderate opposition can only be in parliament, and not around the corner with a gun.
  25. Junior, I
    Junior, I 14 December 2015 20: 25 New
    0
    They understand that a New Year's gift will come to them, that's why they fussed!
    They have their own companion, that the photos they want to show!
  26. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 14 December 2015 20: 26 New
    0
    Yes, they are even more dangerous ISIS! The West can openly help them.
  27. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 14 December 2015 20: 28 New
    0
    Nooo rat igilovskaya! Russians - DO NOT OVERLOOK!
  28. nord62
    nord62 14 December 2015 20: 29 New
    0
    It is necessary to hollow to the full and this gangster army! Definitely!
  29. ty60
    ty60 14 December 2015 20: 32 New
    0
    Trojan horse. Even you do not need to add anything. After 2 to 3 impressive goals, an even more impressive deception. Be careful not to give gifts.
  30. veksha50
    veksha50 14 December 2015 20: 37 New
    0
    “we have accurate information, documents, images, we can provide them with the Russians so that their attacks on the Daesh (IS) are more effective” ...

    God forbid to use such services ... They substitute how to drink to give, so much so that later it will be difficult to wash ...

    These well-wishers should also be included in target designation ...
  31. gammipapa
    gammipapa 14 December 2015 20: 52 New
    0
    Isn't that the SSA that the Americans supported so hot all the time? which weapons were supplied and taught to her militants?
    Cards probably with the next load abandoned?
    Of course, you can look after Sasa brings them to Damascus at Assad’s headquarters. Well, he’ll sit there a little while ours will check what's what. And then our partners have lately been poking us with knives in the back. Trust but verify .
  32. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2015 21: 23 New
    +1
    The goal of the Russian Federation in the Syrian issue is not intended to "negotiate" with anyone. First, the restoration of the sovereignty of the Syrian state, then begins the internal Syrian political process. After this general, Khodorkovsky and Yukos will certainly appear.
  33. propolsky
    propolsky 14 December 2015 21: 24 New
    0
    Well, let them begin to help, and then we'll look at these "self-proclaimed" generals.
  34. Dimitrakis
    Dimitrakis 14 December 2015 21: 56 New
    0
    Americans shove their informants, and so we share info with them, and they merge the Turks. Somehow the Yankees are all confused and again they will step on their own tail.
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  36. Dryuya2
    Dryuya2 14 December 2015 22: 33 New
    0
    some misunderstandings belay
    strictly 21 ++

    photo from Nusra allegedly Iranians, Iraqis and Hezbollah fighters who died in Banes
    about 80 dead - they write request
    http://waroffline.org/index.php?showtopic=291&st=1000#
    https://twitter.com/JnHalab9
    fight video
    https://streamable.com/a5sb
    and photos of trophies
  37. afrikanez
    afrikanez 14 December 2015 22: 35 New
    0
    In the Syrian conflict, you don’t need to listen to anyone, much less listen to someone’s advice, except for the popularly elected president and his people. All these coalitions and other hedgehogs with them, this is all a riffraff to be destroyed. because they have only one goal, the collapse of Syria and the small-town reign on this earth.
  38. acetophenon
    acetophenon 14 December 2015 22: 39 New
    +1
    Moreover, the question arises: why did the “SSA General” not previously express a desire to cooperate with Russia to combat Daesh (ISIS) militants?

    Yes, do not care.
    It doesn’t matter, a black cat or a white cat, if it can catch mice - this is a good cat.
    (c) Deng Xiaoping.
  39. Starik72
    Starik72 14 December 2015 23: 00 New
    0
    Something I can’t believe in this SSA intelligence general. If YOU the general want to help SYRIA in the fight against ISIS, then YOU with your army must go to the side of ASAD and beat nonhumans together with SNA, as 5000 SSA soldiers who sided with ASAD do this. And so YOU ​​are a decoy that would divert RUSSIAN airplanes from true goals.
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  41. Garis
    Garis 14 December 2015 23: 15 New
    0
    We have been friends with the Turks on this issue. Nice to indulge.
  42. gergi
    gergi 14 December 2015 23: 58 New
    0
    Simple and tasteful, he called himself moderate and rushed, I want to show you goals, fly, bomb faster. The neighbor took the goat just now, this is the first goal! Etc! For suckers hold cattle!
  43. iouris
    iouris 15 December 2015 01: 09 New
    0
    It's time to "reformat" our political views. There is an "Axis": USA-Turkey-Qatar-CA. There is some kind of NATO, of which Turkey is a part. There is oil and a working "pipeline". There is some ISIS, which is the Axis assault squad. ISIS is needed to steal or, say, reduce the cost of extracting and transporting oil from the territory of Iraqi Kurds, which are near Barzani. After the bombing of ISIS banned in the Russian Federation, the Turkish army took control of the oil industry, i.e. NATO army (A fell B disappeared, who remained on the pipe?). For the beneficiary, nothing has changed. ISIS is Turkey. Turkey is NATO. France, which avenges ISIS, is bombing the Syrian army that is fighting ISIS. So who is fighting with whom and for what?
  44. HARDDEN_KMV
    HARDDEN_KMV 15 December 2015 01: 40 New
    0
    SSA is the CIA on a business trip who offer their services! It’s a pity that Syria does not border North Korea! Old Kim would figure it out)
  45. Region 23
    Region 23 15 December 2015 02: 52 New
    0
    It’s clear to the fool that the United States itself didn’t manage to agree with our General Staff, and with the help of the SSA, it is trying to control the work of our air forces in Syria.
  46. Daemonicus
    Daemonicus 15 December 2015 03: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Now think, in the SSA 50-70 there is a warrior.

    I'm wondering what kind of SSA are we talking about? Arab media have long written that CCA essentially does not exist. Part surrendered to government troops, part went to the igil. There are separate gangs, no better than ISIS, which are engaged in robbery and kidnapping.
    Question: Who is now under the SSA brand? What kind of warriors are we talking about?
  47. ProtectRusOrDie
    ProtectRusOrDie 15 December 2015 05: 25 New
    0
    "Fear Danians bringing gifts."
  48. Wolka
    Wolka 15 December 2015 05: 48 New
    0
    this general from the SSA was a talker, where he was when the Yankee coalition “bombed” the Daesh for a whole year and what's the point, the situation only worsened and reached critical, and the Russian Aerospace Forces in 4 months of its operations led the situation to a radical turning point and taking strategic initiative in hand the government army of B. Assad, that’s the whole difference who really fights for the sovereignty of Syria and who is engaged in idle talk about grandmothers ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 December 2015 06: 26 New
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      Quote: Volka
      and the Russian Aerospace Forces for 4 months of their actions

      Today is February 1, 2016?
  49. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 15 December 2015 06: 58 New
    -1
    Well, let’s put it with the Arabs, we are already “long and fruitfully friends” and we remember very well how it ended! With the Jews? Yes, it seems they never really quarreled. It’s just that for now, all our geopolitical plans, thanks to the “effective managers”, are in some kind of amorphous state. The formation of the domestic economy is slow: we can’t refuse to be tied to natural resources in the foreseeable future, the old ideological dogmas are destroyed, the new people perceive weakly and with distrust, Well, people do not believe in the parasites that make up the backbone of the "new elite." So far, we have only successfully eliminated the "abscesses" continually arising at our borders. It's time to decide - what is Russia. Maybe internationalism is enough for us? It seems already repeatedly stepped on the given rake. I believe that in the domestic and foreign policy in the foreground should not be the interests of the "elite", but the interests of the Russian population, then we will succeed.
  50. Velizariy
    Velizariy 15 December 2015 11: 25 New
    0
    Internationalism has never been an act of simple friendly support for any next fraternal working people! This was an instrument for achieving geopolitical goals and protecting our state, so to speak, to beat the enemy somewhere on the "neighboring street", so that we would not have to fight with it on our own. Well, now the trend is the word "international terrorism", it’s just more convenient to present the people and fits with the ideological foundations at the time, although now this "international terrorism" is only for victims of the exam, and even they sometimes argue with this)