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Egyptian investigation team says it has not yet found evidence of a version of the attack aboard a Russian airliner.

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Information Agency Reuters with reference to representatives of the Egyptian investigative group, reports on the publication of a report on the causes of the crash of the aircraft of the Russian airline Kogalymavia, coming from the resort of Sharm-al-Sheikh (Egypt) to St. Petersburg. Recall the plane, falling apart in the air, fell on the Sinai Peninsula. Then (October 31) killed 224 person. A few days later, the FSB director Alexander Bortnikov stated that the cause of the catastrophe was a terrorist act — an explosive device was set off on board the airliner.


If we believe Reuters, the Egyptian side claims that it does not have a confirmation of the version of the terrorist act on board the Russian passenger aircraft.

From a statement by a representative of the Ministry of Civil aviation Egypt, which is provided by the Western News Agency:
The investigative commission has not yet discovered what would indicate an unlawful intervention or a terrorist act.


Egyptian investigation team says it has not yet found evidence of a version of the attack aboard a Russian airliner.


Is it any wonder this conclusion, especially given the fact that, firstly, Egypt is not interested in confirming the version of the terrorist attack, secondly, there is, for example, a Dutch commission, which was not enough to find an obvious conclusion in investigation of the collapse of the Malaysian liner near Donetsk.

In the special services of the Russian Federation previously stated that the wreckage of the aircraft and the personal belongings of the passengers were thoroughly analyzed, as a result of which traces of foreign-made explosive were found. According to Alexander Bortnikov, the power of an improvised explosive device did not exceed 1 kg in TNT equivalent. Later, a photo appeared on the Internet, published by Daesh (ISIS) militants who claimed responsibility for the attack, in which a tin can from a soda and activating an explosive was presented as a copy of an explosive device powered by A-321. items.
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  1. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 14 December 2015 12: 51 New
    +8
    Is it worth wondering at this conclusion, especially considering the fact that, firstly, Egypt is not interested in confirming the version of the attack,

    100%
    1. Uran
      Uran 14 December 2015 12: 52 New
      +7
      Well, of course. Egypt is losing the tour stream. it’s not beneficial for them to claim that this is a terrorist attack.
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 December 2015 12: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Uranus
        Well, of course. Egypt is losing the tour stream. it’s not beneficial for them to claim that this is a terrorist attack.


        They need to quickly clean up and guarantee safety, then the tourists will return.
        1. soldat74
          soldat74 14 December 2015 21: 19 New
          +2
          Tell me please. Who now in the world will give a 100% guarantee of security. I believe that the guarantee of security at the moment is some moderation in desires (for example, to relax abroad). After all, we have already passed the line where a trip abroad is considered to be the criterion of welfare. In the end, it is at least not safe even in prosperous countries, so to speak!
          PS
          Do not consider me a coward, but I am primarily concerned about my children!
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 14 December 2015 13: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Uranus
        Well, of course. Egypt is losing the tour stream. it’s not beneficial for them to claim that this is a terrorist attack.

        Their Wishlist now have no meaning. The President of Russia has publicly stated that this was an unambiguous act of terrorism and forbade, for security reasons, the travel of Russian citizens to Egypt. So increase the level of security of certain categories of foreigners, comrades Egyptians. And then, perhaps, you will be happy.
      3. kizhe
        kizhe 14 December 2015 14: 06 New
        0
        About the flow tour is to the vein. Now let them take the stream of Turks.
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 14 December 2015 12: 56 New
      +1
      But, again, everyone remembers that it was Egypt who first declared that it was a terrorist attack. So, that is not as simple as the author wants to say.
  2. inkass_98
    inkass_98 14 December 2015 12: 52 New
    +1
    Well, they really want to return tourists from Russia, already I won’t keep it.
  3. Tor5
    Tor5 14 December 2015 12: 52 New
    0
    Well then, they could not identify traces of explosives?
    1. corporal
      corporal 14 December 2015 13: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Tor5
      traces of explosives could not be detected?

      And if she really wasn’t? Then there is a thuja heap of questions .......
      Let the Egyptians lie, so it’s calmer.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 14 December 2015 19: 25 New
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        I don’t think it was profitable for us to prove the terrorist attack without proof. After all, Egypt is also not the last horseradish to unreasonably ride it, knowing what damage it will be. Let me remind you that, in contrast to bourgeois, we did not cancel flights immediately.
    2. VadimSt
      VadimSt 14 December 2015 13: 08 New
      0
      Do they need it?
    3. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 14 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +1
      Until they make a full-scale calculation of all the elements, analyze the damage to them, and conduct the relevant examinations, it is impossible to say whether or not it was firm or impossible with 100% accuracy. At high altitude, a large amount of exposure is not required, the volume of explosives in the bank is enough for the eyes. The plane will fall apart from a sharp pressure drop, as in school experience with a balloon that bursts from low external pressure and large internal. Thus, damage to the elements will be minor.
      1. WUS 068
        WUS 068 14 December 2015 15: 31 New
        0
        I agree.
        The plane fell apart in the air - the tail fell a few kilometers from the plane itself. The bodies of people that fell out of it are also far away. In addition, the aircraft previously had an emergency take-off - a tail strike on the strip during take-off. A fairly small but sharp jolt (explosion) during the flight (in the parking lot will not work) in the vicinity of the tail. And to make a bomb - after half an hour walking through Khozovaty and no one will smell such a thing ...
  4. moskowit
    moskowit 14 December 2015 12: 54 New
    +1
    Is it possible, even in such a tragedy, to falsify the facts? There is no limit to human hypocrisy ...
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 14 December 2015 16: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: moskowit
      Is it possible, even in such a tragedy, to falsify the facts?

      the outskirts did go when they shot down an airplane over the Black Sea. so still have not pleaded guilty
  5. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 14 December 2015 13: 01 New
    +5
    I’ll write down cons, but I’ll write: it’s also unprofitable for our fat bellies to shout that the plane simply fell apart in the air due to poor-quality repairs. Just because our fat bellies benefit from continuing to buy used planes. It is just as profitable to continue to lease / sell substandard aircraft to our "partners" from Europe and the USA. For such money they can buy anyone.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 14 December 2015 13: 13 New
      +5
      The plane, even with the “fifth point”, grabbed concrete when used in Middle Eastern and Asian companies, but repaired it in Toulouse, on Mummy, Airbus, rather than artisanal raccoons in Mukh-Al-El-Sr.a.s. .ke.
      For the sake of interest, Signor Tomato, look at the statistics on how many disasters of the A-320 / 321 family of liners were. This is one of the most reliable cars in the world. Americans are resting. I do not put a minus in principle.
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 14 December 2015 13: 36 New
        +2
        .... The plane even "fifth point" and grabbed the concrete ...

        ... This does not mean anything .... ALL aircraft have reinforced the structure in the "fifth point" region for such cases, up to installing a retractable heel .... If the tail did not fall off and the geometry did not crawl, it’s quite an aircraft ... hi
      2. WUS 068
        WUS 068 14 December 2015 15: 37 New
        0
        The plane fell apart in the air - the tail fell a few kilometers from the plane itself. The bodies of people that fell out of it are also far away. In addition, the aircraft previously had an emergency take-off - a tail strike on the strip during take-off. A fairly small but sharp jolt (explosion) during the flight (in the parking lot will not work) in the vicinity of the tail. And to make a bomb - after half an hour walking through Khozovaty and no one will smell such a thing ...
    2. your1970
      your1970 14 December 2015 18: 21 New
      +1
      and tour operators, with their billions of dollars in turnover, can they benefit from a ban? Especially after Turkey? But it’s not real ... they just benefit from an accident, they changed the carrier and that's it
  6. sotsemod
    sotsemod 14 December 2015 13: 08 New
    0
    Some authoritative sources write that in the airplane’s body, the photo clearly shows holes that occur only from missiles ...
    Well it is, note. And so in general it was a terrorist attack of course, yes.
  7. Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 December 2015 13: 09 New
    +1
    "A few days later, FSB director Alexander Bortnikov announced that the cause of the disaster was a terrorist act - an explosive device was launched on board the airliner."
    If memory does not change, these "several days" lasted quite a long time. Not clear "body movements".
    1. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 14 December 2015 13: 16 New
      +1
      Memory does not change. I am not a connoisseur of international law, but most likely the question is who will pay compensation, depending on whether it is a terrorist attack or not.
  8. gg.na
    gg.na 14 December 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    Mochilovo igilovtsev is taking big steps and to some in the world oh how unprofitable it is to lose the feeder that they have with the help of this rotten igil. And so that at least somehow to stop the igil massacre (and RUSSIA just just made a bloody igil and am terrible slaughter) they now put pressure on the next group of Egypt so that they would not find evidence of a terrorist attack on board an airplane! But it’s I who can misunderstand something and the course of my thoughts is wrong what .
  9. Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 December 2015 13: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: FIREMAN
    I am not an expert on international law, but most likely the question is who will pay compensation, depending on whether it is a terrorist attack or not.

    I just thought, the question - who will pay, is not the same as - who is to blame. Lately, many have been hiding behind the words - "You can’t return the dead"
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 14 December 2015 13: 44 New
      +1
      I’m "about memory." 4.10.2001. Black Sea. Tu-154M, airborne RA-85693, Tel Aviv-Tolmachevo.
      "In 2008, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine initiated an examination. The expert commission included six experts from the Kiev Scientific Research Institute of Forensic Science (KNIISE) and three employees of the Kozhedub Kharkiv Institute of Air Force. According to a repeated examination of the KNIISE from January 2011, the plane was not hit Ukrainian missile. Experts examined the conditions under which, according to the IAC, a Tu-154 aircraft could be hit by a missile. The Commission concluded that during the explosion of the warhead of the missile the distance to the aircraft was supposed to be 780 m. In this case, the aircraft would have hit “up to three damaging elements.” “Destruction of the aircraft under such conditions is practically impossible,” the KNIISE concludes, the report also says that the “Flight” target three minutes before the accident, the Tu-154 was destroyed by the fire of another anti-aircraft missile system - the S-300 submarine located 11 km from C-200B. 9.42 UTC (12.42 Kiev time) the radiation of C-200B radar equipment was stopped, which excludes the possibility of hitting a plane Ain anti-aircraft missiles. Denying the defeat of the aircraft by the Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile, KNIISE experts do not indicate other possible causes of the Tu-154 crash. Answering questions during the court hearings, the experts did not exclude that the source of the damage to the aircraft could be both outside and inside the liner, in particular, it could be an explosive device placed “between the ceiling of the inside of the aircraft” and its outer shell. ”
      And now we carefully read the TTX S-200. From the words of the "commission" it seems that the rocket was packed with "plastic" damaging elements. Those who studied at the time of the USSR in air defense schools remember very well what the 200s were intended for, especially under the Giant Spear program, and what they did in the Arctic (even without special charges).
      And yet ... Even the first two hundred worked on the principle of "the stronger the radiation from the target, the better we induce."
  10. Roman 25
    Roman 25 14 December 2015 13: 24 New
    +1
    Apparently, authoritative members of the commission investigating the tragedy of flight MH-17 were invited to investigate ...
    Someone said - "There is no limit to human hypocrisy ...", there is one measure of $$$.
    And when it comes to it, the rest is not important, much less for a rather poor country, which has a small share of the budget from tourism. Not to mention the "international solidarity" in relation to Russia, in the application of completely different standards and rules. IMHO
  11. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 14 December 2015 13: 31 New
    +1
    All this churkota is so slippery that I don’t even want to talk
  12. Dr dron
    Dr dron 14 December 2015 13: 35 New
    0
    Interestingly, the Egyptian experts themselves came to this conclusion or who suggested ...
  13. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2015 13: 36 New
    +1
    In any case, alternative versions are considered, justifications are given in favor or against each version (hypothesis). The final document of the commission of inquiry contains the final conclusion. This is a legal fact. The rest are hypotheses. The Poles are still speculating about the causes of the disaster in Smolensk. However, experts are confident that the reasons are established by an act of the commission.
  14. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 14 December 2015 13: 36 New
    0
    In Egypt, accustomed to the New Year to receive large profits from Russian tourists. Now let them first get rid of ISIS, and only then it will be possible to talk with them.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 14 December 2015 13: 54 New
      0
      Al_oriso,
      Your phrase does not remind you of the old thought: "Rock against drugs, bees against honey"?
  15. anfil
    anfil 14 December 2015 13: 39 New
    0
    We read carefully!

    Reuters news agency, citing representatives of the Egyptian investigation team, reports ...

    According to Reuters, the Egyptian side declares ...


    We look forward to an official investigation reading articles from all sorts of Galyn Times.
  16. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 14 December 2015 13: 45 New
    0
    The Egyptians are completely overwhelmed! Conclusions on the terrorist act were not only not made, but still have the audacity to deny! For them, the main thing is to tear the bakshish from Russian tourists! Our tour operators are also good! Recently an article was published that in January February, tourists can visit Egypt again! That the Egyptians have already eliminated everything in terms of security! And what now will the inspection of tourists become more thorough at the airport? Now they’ll bring it to the airport and pickle there longer? What will it give us in terms of security if everyone has access to airplanes in the same charm? And I hope everyone knows about the carelessness of local Aboriginal people and their pathological greed! Arabs, did not guess .... Personally, I with my whole family in Egypt more than a foot!
  17. chikenous59
    chikenous59 14 December 2015 14: 09 New
    0
    It just says that our specialists work better and more efficiently)
  18. kizhe
    kizhe 14 December 2015 14: 13 New
    0
    Right now I'll pick a chamomile and guess .......
  19. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 14 December 2015 14: 27 New
    0
    There is always an alternative version (as possible an alternative reality). As a point of view you can listen. As they say, whoever is looking for something will find it.
  20. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 December 2015 15: 55 New
    +1
    In fact, official conclusions are not made from scratch! Egyptian findings seem simply not serious. They may be hottz tourists, but they don’t know what to think of!
  21. Lukich
    Lukich 14 December 2015 16: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: cniza
    They need to quickly clean up and guarantee safety, then the tourists will return.

    oh how soon. ours may return quickly (the mysterious Russian soul), but foreigners ...
  22. Thompson
    Thompson 14 December 2015 20: 20 New
    0
    As soon as the version was confirmed that there would be a strong blow to the tourist industry and the inflow of capital, the version of the terrorist attack was not immediately confirmed.